Which Politics Are Allowed in Football?

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@yunggekyume5393
@yunggekyume5393 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this channel goes from rating club shop items to discussing politics within 2 days
@kaianhardman2869
@kaianhardman2869 2 жыл бұрын
Alfie just tryna be different
@jesuisunstroopwafel
@jesuisunstroopwafel 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I love it.
@j4genius961
@j4genius961 2 жыл бұрын
It's called range
@joehartwell8910
@joehartwell8910 2 жыл бұрын
It's a crying shame that Alfie thinks he knows both what other people think, and better than those people. It's even sadder seeing people praise him for this. He does a good job with football research. When he does this the channel just becomes a place for clapping seals.
@kaianhardman2869
@kaianhardman2869 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesuisunstroopwafel Ik same I was jking
@1NTEN7ION
@1NTEN7ION 2 жыл бұрын
Politics is allowed in football when it's aligned with the current political agenda
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 2 жыл бұрын
True. This is why democracy can never be truly successful. The majority opinion decides the agenda. There is no conversation about right and wrong. It's a one size or rather one line of thinking fits all approach.
@johnny6448
@johnny6448 2 жыл бұрын
facts
@romanscerbak5167
@romanscerbak5167 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnny6448 stupidity
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 жыл бұрын
Which often shifts as he said at the end.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 2 жыл бұрын
As expected
@Finn_Lawless
@Finn_Lawless 9 ай бұрын
I'm re-watching this video after however long. It has aged well and is eternally relevant. I don't know if Alfie will read this, but I hope he never stops producing such content. Freedom for Palestine. Up the Bohs.
@vito7828
@vito7828 3 ай бұрын
Thanks man I'm happy to see a people support human rights but nothing happened until now
@Finn_Lawless
@Finn_Lawless 3 ай бұрын
@@vito7828 What do you mean with "nothing happened until now"?
@vito7828
@vito7828 3 ай бұрын
@@Finn_Lawless I mean nothing change 😅
@ahmedalaraby1371
@ahmedalaraby1371 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you really aren't holding back on the hypocrisy in media rn Respect!
@Tdr-jv2nc
@Tdr-jv2nc 2 жыл бұрын
Media is what keeps us all divided
@ahmedalaraby1371
@ahmedalaraby1371 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tdr-jv2nc if we keep fighting each other then they are safe Pretty evil but pretty smart
@matttyce903
@matttyce903 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedalaraby1371 true, we all got the same enemy at the end of the day but they want us to be mad at eachother
@No-mn9do
@No-mn9do 2 жыл бұрын
based roman flag pfp arabian
@Tdr-jv2nc
@Tdr-jv2nc 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahmedalaraby1371 Very true mate!
@Alfie_1
@Alfie_1 2 жыл бұрын
Ivan Toney has consistently refused to kneel before games, from the 20/21 mid-year break or so, because he thought that it is used by governments and organisations to show their support, whilst saying that they are making progress, but not actually changing anything fundamentally, and are more puppets. Interesting point, I thought.
@NomaHirudo
@NomaHirudo 2 жыл бұрын
He has a point. Most corporations only pretend to care about racism while most governments continue to do nothing about systemic problems like this. Too bad some people just go with the vibe without understanding the problem, while other people simply believe the problem doesn’t exist
@Alfie_1
@Alfie_1 2 жыл бұрын
@@NomaHirudo Well said.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 2 жыл бұрын
@@NomaHirudo word
@c0222
@c0222 2 жыл бұрын
It started with good intentions but quickly decsended into virtue signalling.
@JimTheFly
@JimTheFly 2 жыл бұрын
Kneeling was a protest that gained enough traction that deciding to NOT kneel became its own protest.
@pipwilson7435
@pipwilson7435 2 жыл бұрын
Great video essay! I've thought about this in relation to the Olympics before, and it seems to me that those who say politics should be kept out of sport are conveniently forgetting that ot speaking out on an issue is just as political as to speak out on an issue.
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, one of his best
@jamesrodriguez514
@jamesrodriguez514 2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing to forget. You are conveniently pretending that not speaking about politics means you're being political. You're wrong.
@pipwilson7435
@pipwilson7435 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrodriguez514 that's not quite what I mean. What I should have said is that when authorities try to say that we should keep politics out of sport, they are themselves making a political statement. Although of course the active decision not to speak is a political action. What it is saying is 'I care more about X than Y'. For instance, the IOC has a longstanding policy of athletes not making political statements. Before Tokyo 2020, the IOC had attempted to prevent athletes taking the knee despite professing to be against racism. Why is this then? Well presumably they felt that the cost to the IOC of athletes speaking out was greater than the benefits. That's a political decision. In the end they relented. UEFAs decision to prevent teams using the rainbow flag colours when playing Hungary during Euro 2020 is also illustrative of this. They prevented it on the grounds that it was a political statement. However, not allowing it was also a political statement. What it said was that they cared more about not upsetting the Hungarian Government than upholding the values UEFA claims to hold. Therefore, the choice not to do something is in itself political. There's so much more I could say about what politics actually is, but it's late and I need to get up in the morning.
@jamesrodriguez514
@jamesrodriguez514 2 жыл бұрын
@@pipwilson7435 Why does the IOC need to profess anything not related to sport? Does someone need to say they're against racism (or anything else), otherwise they're assumed to be for it? On the same note, UEFA's purpose isn't to hold any values not related directly to sport. These aren't political organizations, they don't represent the government. As far as I'm concerned, the IOC should've continued to prevent athletes from making political statements and UEFA should've prevented teams from using the rainbow flag at all, not only against Hungary. They also should've kept their mouth shut about political or social issues, since it's not their purpose to speak about it. They should've done this out of principle, but also because at some point in the future someone with the "wrong" politics might want to make a political statement and they'll forbid it. So, you get to a point where sports organizations allow you to make political statements as long as you agree with them. Just to make it clear, I'm talking about what should be, not what is. As you've already mentioned, these sports organizations have already made political statements and have allowed certain ideas to be propagated through them. What they do now is try to pretend that they aren't political, which makes them look hypocritical. I could also speak about how this all started, which is how a lot of these things happen: a slippery slope. After all, it's just a board that says "no racism", and we all agree with the idea, right? But, as always, that's not enough and you get to a point where if you don't repeat it constantly it means you're for it, not against it anymore.
@fgsaramago
@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын
No, it isn't, that's a bit of a childish notion
@Outpost-13-Hockey
@Outpost-13-Hockey Жыл бұрын
I always laugh at the people who say keep politics out of football when they talk about the rainbow armbands, then applaud players who refuse to wear them for religious reasons (which I'm fine with, although I wouldn't address it with a laugh emoji). But the very same people get pissed off about James McClean refusing to wear a poppy. If it's fine to not wear a rainbow armband it should be fine to not wear a poppy. It's not fair to equate one thing as political and the other as apolitical because it suits your world view. Because neither are overtly political. They're adjacent to political viewpoints.
@ethandalton6480
@ethandalton6480 2 жыл бұрын
The "keep politics out of football" people must have been fuming when Denmark won the European Championship
@georgetapia1010
@georgetapia1010 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you say that?
@mikipetreski9998
@mikipetreski9998 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgetapia1010 because yugoslavia got kicked out of the euros that year due to the civil war. Denmark got their place after that.
@georgetapia1010
@georgetapia1010 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikipetreski9998 oh yeah they got banned from the WC too if I'm not mistaken. But I had no idea that Denmark took their spot in Euro 92.
@mikipetreski9998
@mikipetreski9998 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgetapia1010 We were dissolved as a nation by the WC, none of the 7 countries competed for a couple of years after that
@gothicgolem2947
@gothicgolem2947 2 жыл бұрын
Denmark won the euros???
@varunchand8546
@varunchand8546 2 жыл бұрын
My fear is that Alfie will never get the recognition he deserves as a phenomenal journalist (sports or otherwise) since he isn't affiliated to a big name... may the great work continue and I hope the power of social media demolishes if not assuages my fears!!! GO Alf!!!!!
@eavyeavy2864
@eavyeavy2864 2 жыл бұрын
Adhd
@3dcomrade
@3dcomrade 8 ай бұрын
​@Mk-jr8rgby that definition. Russia(legal successor of USSR) too should be banned for invading Afghanistan The same applies with China for its war against Vietnam that only tried to liberate Cambodia from Pol Pot's insanity Shit, by this logic Pakistan, India, Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Greece cant join due to existing/conflicts post WW2
@Kanbei11
@Kanbei11 6 күн бұрын
The catch 22 is that if he were affiliated to a big name he may have to temper his content to not call them or their sponsors/partners out
@brianpenney7
@brianpenney7 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on a tricky subject Alfie. Best pundit on KZbin in my humble opinion.
@UncledadBFD
@UncledadBFD 2 жыл бұрын
Consistently excellent.
@c0222
@c0222 2 жыл бұрын
If we're being honest it isn't a tricky issure, the people who want certain flags banned from games but are fans of others are just idiots and hypocrits.
@danemarwood3941
@danemarwood3941 2 жыл бұрын
In America this is simply decided by who our defense contractor’s largest client is at the time.
@lougiacobbi725
@lougiacobbi725 2 жыл бұрын
In America, it's being more and more defined by what Rupert Murdoch tells people to think, similar to the UK. The problem is the people that follow Murdoch media accept it as gospel and aren't capable of questioning what they are told to believe and support.
@idontexist1681
@idontexist1681 2 жыл бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725 murdoch is so evil that satan doesn't accept him into his hell
@GooseGumlizzard
@GooseGumlizzard Жыл бұрын
nonsense
@nuudelz3711
@nuudelz3711 Жыл бұрын
@@lougiacobbi725that’s cause his media companies continuously gaslight the watcher until they isn’t have a shred of their own thought left.
@GNMbg
@GNMbg Жыл бұрын
did Elon Musk tell you that? haha @@nuudelz3711
@jacobe1074
@jacobe1074 2 жыл бұрын
Most based futbol youtuber strikes again. I am an Australian and right now we're going through an annoying culture war where angry boomers and pundits are dogpiling a specific netball player (who is Aboriginal) and her teammates for not wanting to wear the name of a racist on their kit as a sponsor logo. "Keep politics out of sport," they say, unaware of the fact that this is itself a political stance which allows things like racism, homophobia, and unethical sponsorships to go unchallenged. Everything is political.
@TunaStrata
@TunaStrata 2 жыл бұрын
Is netball a slang for football in australia? Or is it entirely different sport? Just curious.
@LordGoose-zr6jj
@LordGoose-zr6jj 2 жыл бұрын
@@TunaStrata Netball is a completely different sport, we play it here in the UK too and it's similar to basketball except for you can't move while holding the ball
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 2 жыл бұрын
What racist? I can tell by your carry on you're part of the problem here, but as an Australian who couldn't give a fark about netball, what's this all about?
@1NTEN7ION
@1NTEN7ION 2 жыл бұрын
How can I be homophobic my sponsors gay
@j4genius961
@j4genius961 2 жыл бұрын
@@falconmclenny7284 So you don't even know the situation but you've already decided that he's the problem? Alright
@Jojo.R.Chipelago
@Jojo.R.Chipelago 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to have someone like aflie putting out this content so frequently. Football needed this.
@lfscelt
@lfscelt 2 жыл бұрын
Well done yet again Alfie. If only the masses could understand the reality of this message. This is a very good video that highlights the Murdoch media and agenda based media that we are fed. Sadly, money and political power will project what they want the masses to know or care about. Keep up the good work mate.
@robinhazell6019
@robinhazell6019 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Grat comment.
@mancunioner
@mancunioner 2 жыл бұрын
Except its all left wing propaganda now
@ChangeBegins9661
@ChangeBegins9661 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. The way the media pushes BLM, Extinction Rebellion and other communist based political movements is a joke. It's so 1 sided and biased. Basically your political movement is ok as long as it's woke, left wing nonsense
@ryanwilliams8750
@ryanwilliams8750 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well said my friend. Rupert Murdoch has his grubby hands in almost all local news in the United States. Basically gives him free reign to send the networks certain talking points. Then it allows people like John Oliver to gather all those clips and show the people watching that there's a chance even your local news channel is being heavily influenced by people like Murdoch.
@petesmart1983
@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын
Murdoch media is actually far right and very pro putin
@jasoncampbell293
@jasoncampbell293 2 жыл бұрын
Your average English fan won't like listening to this. Well done Alfie, as I've said before, more English fans need to have your ability to critically think
@Glory-Compass
@Glory-Compass 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: More European Fans
@theemperor6413
@theemperor6413 2 жыл бұрын
Not just English fans
@jasoncampbell293
@jasoncampbell293 2 жыл бұрын
@@theemperor6413 most teams around the world do involve politics in football. England is the outlier in that and as Alfie is English and therefore his videos are from an English persons perspective, hence me saying that English fans won’t like it.
@jasoncampbell293
@jasoncampbell293 2 жыл бұрын
@@Glory-Compass all across Europe football and politics are intertwined. Simply look around most European stadiums and you will see something political somewhere. Whether it be right wing or left wing. It is there and far more prominent than in England
@TristanCCFC
@TristanCCFC 2 жыл бұрын
I had to search far and wide to find a football club that was openly anti-fascist. Meanwhile, I heard racism, homophobia, transphobia and sexism at nearly every premier league ground. Politics of the status quo is alive in football, we just don't have any St Pauli, Rayo, Europa, Celtic to actively counter it.
@andrewplatt7452
@andrewplatt7452 2 жыл бұрын
ive been watching you for years but never commented but let me say that what you do is amazing. just doing your passion, following your interest, its brilliant to come home to after a twelve hour shift. doing well brother keep em coming. you're a smart, intellectual and articulate.
@westshorebassfishing3205
@westshorebassfishing3205 2 жыл бұрын
Alfie is one of the few pundits that has the talent to use a broad scope of topics and keep it football centric. 👌
@mumar7867
@mumar7867 2 жыл бұрын
Random question, is this the fella who used to do vids with footballs in the background?
@winglessmecha
@winglessmecha 2 жыл бұрын
"All lives are equal but some lives are more equal than others"
@fraz5786
@fraz5786 2 жыл бұрын
My dude you are one of the most talented people in football journalism rn, fantastic video
@danielpeat2396
@danielpeat2396 2 жыл бұрын
This is your best video yet Alfie. fantastic work
@hahahadavidfisher
@hahahadavidfisher 2 жыл бұрын
I love Alfies channel for videos like this but i mainly watch out for the 'however' 'whatsmore' and 'without further adieu' moments which only fans who've watched many of his videos understand and first time viewers should watch out for xD
@stevencooke6451
@stevencooke6451 2 жыл бұрын
No However today.
@Nevermindwhat2358
@Nevermindwhat2358 2 жыл бұрын
Alfie, do a video on Hapoel Jerusalem. They are the polar opposite of Beitar Jerusalem, in terms of politics, and they're doing well in the league.
@und3rcut535
@und3rcut535 2 жыл бұрын
bro this video was AMAZING. your comments and observations were s on point. I now have a different level of respect for you.
@badjujuforever
@badjujuforever 2 жыл бұрын
its 6pm on a Saturday (Australia time) ive cracked open a johnnie walker and im 4 bongs deep. perfect time for a hitc video. i love you alfie
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 2 жыл бұрын
Johnnys and billy bobs, is there a better combination?
@badjujuforever
@badjujuforever 2 жыл бұрын
@@falconmclenny7284 captain morgan is doing a better job now 😂 or as I call it, captain cones
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 2 жыл бұрын
@@badjujuforever the captain can get very messy after a while, watch him.
@Starkweather133
@Starkweather133 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I'm not convinced Jack Grealish can even read
@godgamingmaster770
@godgamingmaster770 11 ай бұрын
he prob can read when he's not drunk
@hennimore1
@hennimore1 2 жыл бұрын
That’s were you’re wrong Alfie, Graelish is an avid Communist. He listens to the Soviet Union National Anthem on his Beats by Dre headphones before every game, and calls Pep a Bourgeoisie oppressor at every training session.
@benjammin9471
@benjammin9471 2 жыл бұрын
Probably listens during the game as well, he has plenty of time while sat on the bench
@ThePikachuThing
@ThePikachuThing 2 жыл бұрын
as usual, Alfie shoots and scores, excellent content
@SophWilliamson
@SophWilliamson 2 жыл бұрын
Quality content as always - Congratulations on half a million!
@adamfysh-foskett961
@adamfysh-foskett961 Жыл бұрын
I found your channel because I am trying to digest more of things I like - such as football - and less of things that make me angry - such as politics - and then I come across this! Great video. Your point about how others' politics is 'political' whereas one's own is just 'common sense' struck a chord. I also remember thinking how the mass Ukraine solidarity post-invasion should have felt good, but something felt slightly off given the criticism of players offering Palestinian solidarity just months earlier. You suggest there are no easy solutions and I agree. For what it's worth, I for one would love to see Jack Grealish break the footballer-turned-writer stereotype of going down the children's books route, and instead penning a critique of Das Kapital...
@AvrilAlvarez
@AvrilAlvarez 2 жыл бұрын
Truth is, flying the union jack at a football match and singing god save the queen is political. It's just as political as flying a Palestinian flag at a match
@rijadmuric7619
@rijadmuric7619 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone from "the west" pointed out the westerners' hipocrisy considering Palestine, in light of war in Ukraine. Thank you ❤
@rasmusforchhammer9557
@rasmusforchhammer9557 Жыл бұрын
Genuinely the best football channel on here
@cholst1
@cholst1 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone arguing that politics should be kept out of sport is pretty much just advocating for sport to be "bread and circuses" to keep the populace distracted. And for people competing in sports to be uncaring robots. Which hilariously is political in itself.
@matthewcoombs3282
@matthewcoombs3282 2 жыл бұрын
Who decides which politics are acceptable? My team Chelsea had politics on the terraces in the 1980s and it was racist far right politics. Best in my mind to keep most politics out of football. Sport is Bread and Circuses. Sorry to break it to you but Football has been a sector of Show Business for some time now. Most fans watch the game on pay for view.
@condimentofmassdestruction9114
@condimentofmassdestruction9114 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewcoombs3282 Football was born out of politic.
@calansmith9561
@calansmith9561 Жыл бұрын
helicopter rides are hilariously political.
@AfroChilanGringo
@AfroChilanGringo 2 жыл бұрын
Again you hit a homerun! Your channel is the best mate!
@RyuzakiTaiyou
@RyuzakiTaiyou 2 жыл бұрын
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 403) I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
@BALHAM69
@BALHAM69 2 жыл бұрын
Name seven you think should be on there? Michael Ballack, Jens Lehmann the goalkeeper are two i would say should be😊
@thefutbolfollower8326
@thefutbolfollower8326 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody cares, blimey.
@cage94123567890
@cage94123567890 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of shit to make a video just about Timo Werner, no?
@arzhi_azis
@arzhi_azis 2 жыл бұрын
Day 341: Indonesia XI If All Eligible Players Had Declared For Them.
@hi-rr2vm
@hi-rr2vm 2 жыл бұрын
Keep dreaming bocah
@diazkohen2149
@diazkohen2149 9 ай бұрын
Ngomong apa cok
@christianspanggaard
@christianspanggaard 2 жыл бұрын
As per usual. You are on point, Alfie. This content is incredibly important!
@morestupidforms
@morestupidforms 2 жыл бұрын
Sports washing is perfectly fine in football. Protesting against said sports washers, however, is not.
@FisherAthleticFan
@FisherAthleticFan 2 жыл бұрын
Told my mate Alfie is a good KZbinr just gotta be in the mood for some of his content. This video here wets my appetite
@John-gx2ry
@John-gx2ry 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Alfie. This insidious approach to " politics in football " needs to be called out more. Well said👏👏👏
@coleparke3763
@coleparke3763 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. It’s a shame how clubs will ban certain political messages but be allowed to sell weird branded RC range rovers in their stores. We really live in a society.
@matttyce903
@matttyce903 2 жыл бұрын
Rainbows and Ukraine flags are allowed, BLM and kneeling was allowed (forced almost), A little support ribbon by Guardiola for Catalunya? Illegal.. 🤦🏻‍♂️
@abhikrajan8904
@abhikrajan8904 Жыл бұрын
you are being racist still tho
@MattOlsen294
@MattOlsen294 2 жыл бұрын
I am so thrilled that Alfie made this video. Sport is inherently political, and should always be used as a tool for change.
@lalitthapa101
@lalitthapa101 2 жыл бұрын
Just like media,sports is also a tool which can be beneficial for progressive change. Let's not forget pioneers like Jesse Owens & Muhammad Ali used sports as a medium to fight the bigotry of their time(something that unfortunately still remains)
@bababababababa6124
@bababababababa6124 2 жыл бұрын
“Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤️” *r@cist sports fans* - “no too political 😢” “Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦💙💛” *r@cist sports fans* - “💙💛”
@Strangegloves
@Strangegloves 2 жыл бұрын
@@lalitthapa101 2
@Strangegloves
@Strangegloves 2 жыл бұрын
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@oussamabr5851
@oussamabr5851 2 жыл бұрын
How do you define the line between 'change' and 'propaganda'? If China uses football to promote a message, would it be propaganda or change? What if England does it, is it again propaganda or change?
@AshfaqurBF
@AshfaqurBF Жыл бұрын
Waving Palestinian flag: Gets fined Waving Ukraine flag: Gets praised. FIFA is trash due to mixing of politics
@JoDyMa
@JoDyMa 2 жыл бұрын
DAY 7: Hey Alfie, could you do a video on the life, career, controversies and tragedy of Justin Fashanu. It'd be your best video yet and it's a criminally underheard story. ❤️
@manugame100
@manugame100 2 жыл бұрын
Another top video Alfie! Video suggestion: most overvalued football club sponsorships.
@dantespina7398
@dantespina7398 2 жыл бұрын
best hitc sevens video ever??
@sahalhamud8824
@sahalhamud8824 2 жыл бұрын
One of the realist and outstanding channel ❤️
@shannonballspen1s482
@shannonballspen1s482 2 жыл бұрын
Alfie youre the most unbiased, hardest working man on youtube. I never dont watch ur vids. All the love from UK Jr. USA
@shukuchimukyo892
@shukuchimukyo892 2 жыл бұрын
"unbiased" lmaoooooooo
@shannonballspen1s482
@shannonballspen1s482 2 жыл бұрын
@@shukuchimukyo892 whats biased? To you mate? Im curious
@rt20089
@rt20089 2 жыл бұрын
@@shukuchimukyo892 supporting Ukraine is not a biased thing but doing the same for Palestine is biased for you?Yeaahh.I smell some obvious 'double standard '.
@szymonlechdzieciol
@szymonlechdzieciol 2 жыл бұрын
@@rt20089 No it's more than whole Alfie video while polite and elaborate clearly betray his political/sociological/ethical views on the case.
@daoudnawaz
@daoudnawaz 2 жыл бұрын
Alfie 👏🏼 The manner in which you dissected the issue was fantastic. Seeing the way the football world responded to the invasion of Ukraine was heartwarming yet also saddening. As the voices of the people of Palestine, Xinjiang and Yemen could too have been elevated yet were silenced. Great video
@96wtfomg
@96wtfomg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing it out. It's as you said, YOUR politics should not be allowed, mine are allowed. To be honest, I think the concept of National Teams in itself is a political concept to some degree. So how can they keep saying "don't involve politics and sport"
@tianyue5814
@tianyue5814 2 жыл бұрын
Great point! The beauty of football, sports is to support local community, people in the country, connect with people, communities in other places, create understanding, harmony, regardless of place, country, religion, gender, ability, etc.. But many people use it to justify nationalism, tribalism, their unconscious, egotistical expression of anger, hatred, bias, discrimination violence towards other people. It's like technology, the internet, KZbin, one can use it for the positive, higher purpose or for the unconscious. It'll be amazing if footballers of different places, mixed genders just play football in a team, in tournaments. I like refugee football teams, Forest Green Rovers who is into veganism and sustainability. Great to know thru this video that FGR also supports Palestine! Thanks to Alfie for this great video! All the best! :)
@fgsaramago
@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын
In Portugal, for the team's friendly before the world cup, people were barred from entering with Amnesty International shirts that were being handed out outside the stadium in an action sponsored by one of the national team's sponsors. FIFA explicitly told match organizers people would not be able to enter with those shirts on. Said shirts, had nothing written on them except for an Amnesty International logo
@narendrapanse7844
@narendrapanse7844 2 жыл бұрын
An outstanding piece - your best by far, if i may say so. Respect!
@lawlorman6285
@lawlorman6285 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone has their own political views and should be able to express them within reason (no violence, no racism etc.) The Palestine flag should be allowed at football games just like the Ukrainian flag. The country is unlawfully occupied by Israel.
@abnormalanorak
@abnormalanorak 2 жыл бұрын
Politics is like an octopus; no matter how hard you try, it will always find a way to stick its nose in anything.
@JPayne95
@JPayne95 2 жыл бұрын
Octopus noses are always getting in my business 🙄
@ninanano
@ninanano 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching your videos for a while but this video alone, I have to finally subscribe to your channel. I haven’t even finished watching the video yet!
@jakobsmith4046
@jakobsmith4046 2 жыл бұрын
Politics are allowed in football so long as it serves the interests of global capital and imperialism, this is why you can have Israeli teams in the UCL and have as many Ukraine flags as you'd like but the minute you have a Palestinian flag or say Russian clubs shouldn't be discriminated against, you're the problem. Nobody banned English clubs from UEFA competitions despite doing far worse than what Russia has.
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 жыл бұрын
Far worse you say? I don't remember England recently invading and occupying another country whilst committing several war crimes along the way.
@reddeadlifts5838
@reddeadlifts5838 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundscape26 are you dumb mate? In the invasion of Iraq, around half a million innocent people were killed, let alone thinking about how many were injured and displaced. Not to condone anything Russia has done, but by every metric imaginable, UK and US' involvement in the middle East is far worse
@josecipriano3048
@josecipriano3048 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundscape26 you must be younger than 20 years old then.
@fgsaramago
@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundscape26 perhaps because England itself is not a country? Nice cop out with that one 😉
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 жыл бұрын
@@fgsaramago It's football we're talking about so it's England... the UK doesn't have a national team.
@H0NDAJET
@H0NDAJET Ай бұрын
the knee jerk reaction to the george floyd death by literally every single sporting entity was laughable
@XLRAshon
@XLRAshon 2 жыл бұрын
as an American this topic is starting to increase more and more in soccer/football. This has always been around in our more popular sports but not soccer. Historically soccer in America has been enjoyed mostly by people with left leaning ideologies so they would hang up rainbow flags, black lives matter, etc without any push back. But in recent years with the sport gaining more and more popularity, right leaning people are coming into the sport and not liking it. I'm more in the camp of letting all politics be displayed and let the clubs themselves dictate what they and the fans can or can't do and the league have 0 say. Cause often the case here the supporters will meet with the club and discuss ideas and what the fans want to display and the owners will either be okay or not about the situation. but yes, anyone who thinks politics have no place in soccer, or any sport has lost the plot. they always have and always will be tied together
@jamescarlile4279
@jamescarlile4279 2 жыл бұрын
At least that would be consistent. The problem we have in Australia is that only liberal politics is aloud, conservative views have literally gotten people fired. If you're going to allow politics, you have to allow everything. If you're not prepared to allow everything, then you allow nothing.
@waifubreaks1572
@waifubreaks1572 2 жыл бұрын
I support Mexico over the US, the US team does shit like displaying the rainbow flag and BLM stuff. I'd much rather support Mexico.
@smokeymcpot1799
@smokeymcpot1799 Жыл бұрын
@@waifubreaks1572 I hate to break it to you but both countries are controlled by the same people. 4 letters long, starts with a J, plural, and describes the people responsible for the world's problems.
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277
@thegloriouspyrocheems2277 2 жыл бұрын
Day 73 - The Fall and Rise of FK Velež Mostar From a Club that has beaten Borussia Dortmund, Twente, Derby County and many others to a club that was forced from their own stadium, reduced to nothing during the Bosnian War, becoming a mediocre top-level team in the 00s to nearly being forced into folding in 2016 to its amazing comeback to European competitions in 2021 seeing the early exit of Greek giants AEK Athens in a sensational win in Athens!
@conorf1995
@conorf1995 2 жыл бұрын
an important topic, love that you speak on divisive issues
@SonicAvalanche
@SonicAvalanche 2 жыл бұрын
You've been knocking them out the park lately
@Nazzazzaable
@Nazzazzaable 2 жыл бұрын
A very much needed video 🔥
@manning0
@manning0 Жыл бұрын
Coming back to this episode as it seems to be a current cause of controversy at Celtic
@mundea
@mundea 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, really enjoyed it
@georgigeorgiev4871
@georgigeorgiev4871 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations over starting such an important, although deeply controversial debate. You did your best to be objective and that's admirable.
@AB-rp6ik
@AB-rp6ik 2 жыл бұрын
Decrying the 'recent politicization' of entertainment is insulting to those in the previous generations of athletes and performers who used the platform to reach beyond personal fame or glory. Furthermore, I find a substantial overlap in those who hold this opinion and those who clutched pearls over some of the less reverential of football fans to Queen Elizabeth II's death. To be looked in the eyes and told 'politics should stay out sports' by someone who unironically believes that Celtic ultras need to just respectfully observe a minute of silence that was being thrust upon them for a british royal would be insulting if it weren't a reflection of their own critical thinking skills.
@neilefc877
@neilefc877 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. In my opinion, its essentially a question of whether or not the governing football body, beit the FA or UEFA, have invested interest in the politics being displayed. Open support for the Ukraine as a result of the "Russian Invasion" (despite the fact that a war was waging for nearly 10 years and the Ukrainians are anything but a force for good in the region) was always going to garner support from British and Western football, whereas there is little profit in open support for Palestine from a Western perspective. Regaridng LGBTQ support, this is imo not politics and will likely give great comfort to young people who may be struggling with their sexuality.
@dubhanr
@dubhanr 2 жыл бұрын
Good episode. Now poppy season is nearly here how about doing an episode on James McClean
@petesmart1983
@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын
James McLean is pretty easy it was bloody Sunday were English troops murdered civilians ,children and other innocents. He grew up in that area. Why should he support people who murdered his family and friends family's
@dubhanr
@dubhanr 2 жыл бұрын
@@petesmart1983 I agree. As someone who grew up in the Bogside & who's parents grew up in Creggan (where James is from) I would like to see what would be said about the reason he's taken his stance because for some reason a lot of people in Britain don't seem to understand or don't think the army done anything wrong.
@Tamara_sworld
@Tamara_sworld 2 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. Great work
@ryanwilliams8750
@ryanwilliams8750 2 жыл бұрын
Its a valid question that many brought up when the war in Ukraine started. The problem is people look at you as if you don't care about Ukraine. Of course we care about Ukraine... but we should also be utilizing the same amount of support for Palestine, Yemen, Ethiopia and Myanmar. Theres an underlying factor here and sadly you guessed it if you know anything about those countries, its race. Unfortunately those countries are mostly black and brown and to stuck up racists in the west are "too far away to matter or care" which is just abhorrent. Some do it subconsciously, you see it in the media with reports like "this is different, this is Europe this isn't far away like the Middle East." Its awful that they come out and just say it and there's no repercussions. Because I believe more and more every day that the USA is has a major white supremacy problem. Not sure about the UK but I know its still a bit prominent there as well. Not sure how long its going to take until they are a really small minority and then extinguished. If you read all of this my goodness youre a legend.
@vegan4life660
@vegan4life660 2 жыл бұрын
Follow the money, the UK n US fund/profit from those wars/genocides.
@shawklan27
@shawklan27 2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@jannetkasiroori9224
@jannetkasiroori9224 2 жыл бұрын
True
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 2 жыл бұрын
The USA most certainly does not have a white supremacy problem 😂 can you give any shred of proof for that?
@bjehulk
@bjehulk 2 жыл бұрын
“We care about Ukraine?” Who’s “we?” 😂😂
@robinhazell6019
@robinhazell6019 Ай бұрын
I like the freedom of fans in Italy to display their political views, even the fans whose views I disagree with.
@ferasalmadhagi2188
@ferasalmadhagi2188 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely Video and really well said. As a kid I always thought that football had no place for politics but since the ukraine war I was completely puzzled with the hypocritical side of football. I was born and lived most my life in Yemen which has been under bombardment of the saudian coalition that is supported by the whole of Europe!!.
@petesmart1983
@petesmart1983 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest problem is that Saudi and other countries around that area rarely let any media or news escape there country's. So we rarely here things as there governments control the news
@fatdaddy1996
@fatdaddy1996 2 жыл бұрын
Pete that's just not true. Anybody who doesn't live under a rock knows about Yemen.
@fgsaramago
@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын
Its definitely not supported by the whole of Europe. That's false
@sietsedegroot5198
@sietsedegroot5198 2 жыл бұрын
Once again a great video! Keep it up
@miniblitz3971
@miniblitz3971 2 жыл бұрын
The love i have for you alfie for actually talking about the hypocrisy surrounding football and the media's treatment of palestine when no one else would is immense. god bless you
@mouthpiece806
@mouthpiece806 2 жыл бұрын
been waiting for somebody to make a video like this!
@leemcdonald1342
@leemcdonald1342 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: 7 most inluential formations in association football history.
@e7r0m6
@e7r0m6 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for bringing up this more than necessary subject. Cheers!
@the_one_the_only4651
@the_one_the_only4651 2 жыл бұрын
Do a documentary on the San Marino 🇸🇲 national football team and their history. Loving ❤ the content.
@bababababababa6124
@bababababababa6124 2 жыл бұрын
Need this video
@BOABModels
@BOABModels 2 жыл бұрын
Look up a channel called the Tim Traveller - he did some great videos watching football in San Marino.
@stewartellinson8846
@stewartellinson8846 2 жыл бұрын
Why aren't they better????????? Surely San marinese grandparents are everywhere in Italy.....
@fgsaramago
@fgsaramago 2 жыл бұрын
13:55 I seriously question that poll. Here in Portugal not only no one did it in any sports event, most people won't even know what "taking the knee" is. Furthermore, its a major scandal whenever some football player doesn't sing the anthem loud enough or they dont seem to do so with enough conviction, let alone if they were doing those kinds of protests
@basitsnake
@basitsnake 2 жыл бұрын
Amazingly put as always Alfie
@aOx666
@aOx666 2 жыл бұрын
One could make an argument that supporting a football club is political in its self
@ACBlackJ0ck
@ACBlackJ0ck 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being curious enough to watch United Passions (the movie FIFA made to tell people how superbly great FIFA is and how Sepp Blatter is the second coming of Jesus), and during that movie one of the reasons they stated as to why FIFA is better than the IOC (as if that's any standard) is because "The Olympics are political, the World Cup is people!", THE VERY NEXT SCENE when talking about Apartheid South Africa wanting to host the World Cup: "The South Africans are telling me 'Keep politics out of sport'. It's impossible! Politics and sport are inseparable.". 10/10 writing right there
@ollie8931
@ollie8931 2 жыл бұрын
How do you summarise your support of LGBT rights alongside your support of the Palestinian law, criminalizing [male] consensual same-sex sexual activity and makes it punishable by up to 10 years' imprisonment? And that gay people often end up dead with very little evidence one way or the other?
@regiment589
@regiment589 2 жыл бұрын
Commies, so called leftist and useful idiots always supported terrorist states and communities in the Middle East cause they fought "capitalists states".
@ananmuadi31
@ananmuadi31 2 жыл бұрын
@@regiment589 don't let them know their favorite tankie leaders and idols were very homophobic and anti-abortion (e.g. Jugashvili, Ceaușescu, Guevara, Castro (son of a spanish plantation owner), Marx (self-loathing Jew), etc.)...
@miche1ene
@miche1ene 2 жыл бұрын
As a Ukrainian, I shall say that we were not the reason for our country to be so politized, r*ssia was. Some of the football stadiums (like one in Chernihiv) or training pitches (like Shakhtar Donestk, or Metalist Kharkiv training grounds) were attacked by missiles or aviation, so for us, politics and football won't be separated for a very long time. In case of Ukraine, we defend the whole Europe from a madman, paying with our land, people and infrastructure, it's not possible to have two opinions in this exact case, and i can confidently say that every Ukrainian is very grateful to everyone in England and the whole world for their support, it really means a lot.
@dreyadreya972
@dreyadreya972 Жыл бұрын
Ukrainians are racists, we haven't forgotten the treatment you gave to fleeing Africans. May God bring his judgement on you.
@thefutbolfollower8326
@thefutbolfollower8326 2 жыл бұрын
All politics should be allowed. It’s impossible to separate anything from politics, let alone sport, which has a lot of financial power involved, If someone like Ronaldo says he’s a Marxist-Leninist his cultist followers will follow through, and of course there’s the whole FIFA and UEFA thing which is all about economics. And besides, everyone should be talking about these things, why not? “Stick to football” is so ridiculous, why can’t footballers voice their opinion, like everyone can? It reminds me of the Candace Owens video where she talks about how no one cares about how celebrities think, which is ridiculous, many care, and why shouldn’t celebrities voice their opinions? Obviously, genocide denial and such is too much, but just the support of a political party, a policy, or an organization is fine by all means.
@vegan4life660
@vegan4life660 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 2 жыл бұрын
Because they are footballers, which means they are probably stupid, and they are rich, and therefor out of touch, so they should shut the fark up and kick the ball.
@thefutbolfollower8326
@thefutbolfollower8326 2 жыл бұрын
@@falconmclenny7284 Then say the same about musicians, artists, authors, other sportspeople and basically anyone who is rich and could be clueless. It’s just ridiculous, there’s no other way but to let them do as they wish.
@falconmclenny7284
@falconmclenny7284 2 жыл бұрын
@@thefutbolfollower8326 no they don't. Music is meant to have a message. Art is meant to have a message. Football is meant to be a sporting contest, nothing more.
@thefutbolfollower8326
@thefutbolfollower8326 2 жыл бұрын
@@falconmclenny7284 Football celebrations are meant to have a message ffs.
@santiagogarza8121
@santiagogarza8121 Жыл бұрын
The fact that Farage, a politician is talking about not having politics in sport is in itself a paradox
@BadEmpanada
@BadEmpanada Жыл бұрын
Good video
@trex8930
@trex8930 2 жыл бұрын
Top video. Well done man
@PL7802
@PL7802 2 жыл бұрын
A coherent and well thought through attempt to tackle a difficult and complex issue. Kudos.
@abdulsamadissa4177
@abdulsamadissa4177 2 жыл бұрын
The way you dissected this video is amazing
@1313tennisman
@1313tennisman 2 жыл бұрын
In order to understand who rules over you, find out who you cannot criticize
@SamS-uv2ql
@SamS-uv2ql Жыл бұрын
Nice to see that Lawrence Fox continues to be a bellend. Have to admire the consistency
@mikeeroony6683
@mikeeroony6683 2 жыл бұрын
Alfie huge respect dude you're one of a few that touch on this subject
@kristoffervalen2935
@kristoffervalen2935 2 жыл бұрын
Fans should display Kurdish flags during Iran matches during the world cup and also during Turkish international matches or when your clubs play against Turkish opposition in European competitions. And European clubs with Turkish owners should bear a Kurdish armband in solidarity with Kurdistan!
@bretlir
@bretlir 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: 7 smallest clubs to have a Cinderella run in Europe (Champions League, European Cup, etc.).
@soundscape26
@soundscape26 2 жыл бұрын
Good one
@barry4649
@barry4649 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video mate and more attention needs to be brought on issues like this not only in sport, Kanye West said some bad things about Jews and gets deplatformed but many people from America have helped destroy Palestine and many political commentators and just racists went at Muslims for years with nowhere near the same backlash
@wardy2c
@wardy2c 2 жыл бұрын
Right, Kanye also said “slavery was a choice” and George floyd died of an OD and his sponsors did nothing. But when he made anti semetic comments he was unceremoniously dropped
@barry4649
@barry4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@wardy2c yep 100% even though tbf the slavery he was talking about was a form of mental slavery he has been talking about for years especially on his song New Slaves. Regardless he articulated himself as badly as he possibly could have
@hunnitroundheath7456
@hunnitroundheath7456 2 жыл бұрын
Kanye said nothing wrong, to point out that the vast majority of the entertainment industry is run by a nepotistic, incestuous group who discriminate against all other groups and exploit them for money is obviously and undeniably true lol the truth is not Anti Semitic.
@barry4649
@barry4649 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunnitroundheath7456 the problem wasn’t what he said but how he said it imo
@GooseGumlizzard
@GooseGumlizzard Жыл бұрын
clown take here habibi
@jimbob-robob
@jimbob-robob 2 жыл бұрын
WELL SAID ALFIE! Those who say keep politics out of sport just don't like a specific type of politics showing up as it already has a default brand of politics deeply built in...(free market centre right)...awesome 👍🖖✊️
@bnorris8625
@bnorris8625 2 жыл бұрын
Really reasonable and balanced approached Alfie well done
@od9694
@od9694 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought whenever I hear someone saying politics has no place in football if they didn't follow that by saying that's why we can't let petrol monarchy buy up football teams then they are full of shit
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