Hitler WASN’T funded into power by the capitalists

[@_Dovar_]

"I decide who is a capitalist." - a redditor

[@aleksazunjic9672]

Well, in Soviet union if you had a garden and small patch you were considered to be kulak 😁

[@aranos6269]

​@@aleksazunjic9672not accurate.

[@jurassicturtle3666]

@@aranos6269 yeah, after they killed a few million Kulaks and Stalin died they quit with that identifier

[@aranos6269]

@@jurassicturtle3666 it depends on the period owning a small garden did not make you a kulak. It was the more successful farmers that were kulaks. Smaller farms were forced to collectives and form kolkhoz, where they were not payed and sovchoz where they were payed. In villages people did own small gardens. People working in kolchoz supported themselves by growing stuff in their small gardens, as they worked for nothing. Similar system was forced on farmers in satelites countries after wwii. I grew up in one and remember all that very well. It was worse than you imagine

[@thomasvandevelde8157]

This one IS funny lol 😀

[@Philistine47]

"Hitler must have been a capitalist because Stalin-era Soviet propaganda said so (eventually, after Hitler broke the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact), and of course Stalinists would never lie!" - William Shirer, probably

[@Mortablunt]

Hitler was oddly, was obviously a S, because he made an alliance with big money as part of his power grab, and another thing was the very first people he put in prison the very first parties he dissolved, The very first people in the concentration camps were all the socialists, the Communists and the trade unionist! Also modeled his state after Mussolini’s fascist Italy, which was also hyper capitalist! Hitler hated communism and love capitalism so much he stated the existence of his thousand year empire on a war against communism!

[@kxkxkxkx]

It is properly called the Hitler-Stalin pact; only communists name it after their underlings in order to obscure the truth

[@AOT_HxH95]

Regarding Wikipedia rewriting history, a perfect example of their agenda pushing is what happened to the Cultural Marxism article.

[@ArgentWolf95]

Also Gamergate, Gamergate 2, and Sweet Baby inc, the latter a gaming consulting company that is basically making a mess of the video game industry. Wikipedian activists are intent on slandering a lot of people just unhappy with corruption in their hobby's industry.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

I always crack up at their little fact check disclaimers on YT videos, anything even remotely related to Jan 6th or the election, or covid. Just to make sure none of you plebs go around having naughty thoughts.

[@AOT_HxH95]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 Don't forget The Great Replacement.

[@AOT_HxH95]

@@ArgentWolf95 I know what's going on there as well. Also E. Jean Carroll and propping her up while defedning Joe Biden and dismissing Tara Reade.

[@AOT_HxH95]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I've seen other ones for things like a certain kind of replacement that is considered great for example.

[@nco_gets_it]

As one of my profs said in 1981, "no lie in history is greater than the lies told about the WW2 era". As we went through that era in his class, he constantly emphasized that almost nothing in any historical reference could withstand actual scrutiny against primary sources. Now, this was long before a lot of primary information became available from Russia, Germany, Japan, Italy, and indeed, even the US and UK. Over the years, reading many history texts on the period 1930-1945, I agree completely that almost everything written prior to the mid 1980s is shyte and 95% since then is shyte.

[@korana6308]

I mean what can of lies. Can you be a little bit specific.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

​@@korana6308Well an easy one is everything written by former commanders German military commanders. Not to say it's all bullshit but they very much pushed the idea that Hitler was a bumbling idiot when a lot of the boneheaded decisions made by the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, and Kriegsmarine were things Hitler opposed. Another good one is basically everything about Erwin Rommel beyond the timeline of his life. He was very much propped up by post war propaganda as a genius tactician who only went along with Nazi Germany because he was loyal to his country. This is despite the fact that he was very good friends with Hitler until a little before his (undeserved) death. He simply wasn't a Nazi diehard and he frankly wasn't the best general.

[@Planeet-Long]

This is true about basically any country that fell under Communist rule, read any North Korean book about Korean history and then compare it with what South Koreans write. This is worse for countries with no alternative like Bulgaria or Poland where Communist narratives still dominate. Objective history is not permitted.

[@elLooto]

like when the Russians said "hey when the soviet soldiers overran the camps, it looks they seized the actual camp records." ie the actual numbers of 'guests' and their final disposition. Thanks to a system invented by IBM, iirc. I am making no statement about the contents of those records.

[@msimon6808]

@@Calvin_Coolage He was good when his intel was good (not always true for other Generals) and bad when his intel was bad - i.e. not flexible in his plans.

[@Mark-fw8pd]

I greatly appreciate TIK for always including his sources. Do not just take someone's 'word', check your understanding and check their sources. Great job TIK.

[@ArgentWolf95]

This is why I trust TIK, because I can always go get the sources myself.

[@Trutheynesky]

@@ArgentWolf95yeah wiki never shows sources. At least the real ones.

[@JacquesFuller]

I agree. If someone says that he is wrong, then they are saying that the source is wrong.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

He needs to read hell's cartel by Diarmuid Jeffreys At its peak in the 1930s, the German chemical conglomerate IG Farben was one of the most powerful corporations in the world. To this day, companies formerly part of the Farben cartel―the aspirin maker Bayer, the graphics supplier Agfa, the plastics giant BASF―continue to play key roles in the global market. IG Farben itself, however, is remembered mostly for its infamous connections to the Nazi Party and its complicity in the atrocities of the Holocaust. After the war, Farben's leaders were tried for crimes that included mass murder and exploitation of slave labor. In Hell's Cartel, Diarmuid Jeffreys presents the first comprehensive account of IG Farben's rise and fall, tracing the enterprise from its nineteenth-century origins, when the discovery of synthetic dyes gave rise to a vibrant new industry, through the upheavals of the Great War era, and on to the company's fateful role in World War II. Named one of the best books of the year by Business Week, Hell's Cartel sheds new light on the codependence of industry and the Third Reich, and offers a timely warning against the dangerous merger of politics and the pursuit of profit.

[@MichaelMyers87]

Hitler hated Capitalism, a LOT. I always find it strange when people bash Capitalism with the ignorant line: "Hitler was a Capitalist" 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@bhangrafan4480]

Hitler was not a big fan of capitalism, but he was not totally against it, and certainly not in practice. The strongly anti-Capitalist element of the Nazi Party, as lead by the Strasser brothers, was exterminated in the 'night of the long knives'. In fact this was probably an important reason for their elimination, as it was a prelude to Hitler's coalition with big business which he needed to supply his war effort. Such giant privately owned industrial CAPITALIST combines thrived during Hitler's war and through Hitler's regime. It was a major focus of the US de-Nazification effort after the war to break-up these German cartels which benefited from the war. Even the Strasser Brothers' anti-capitalist ideology was NOT against all capitalism, it was in favour of small German-owned businesses, from family farms to small cottage industries. What they opposed were big industrial business, which was believed to be a front for Jewish control of the economy and the German workers. At the same time some Nazis believed big industrial capitalists were a Jewish conspiracy and also that Communism was a Jewish conspiracy. Hitler was much more interested in conquering Europe than in opposing capitalism, and was happy to collude with giant industrial cartels to win the war.

[@Dario-uj6qo]

​@@bhangrafan4480TIK has stated many times how buissnesses weren't doing well in nazi germany

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@bhangrafan4480 everyone is a capitalist with their own money.

[@bhangrafan4480]

@@Dario-uj6qo TIK talks a lot of rubbish because he is not very intelligent and does not understand very much. Big industrial combines like IG Farben and major arms manufacturers did well considering all their assets were continually being destroyed by allied bombing.

[@lloydgush]

Yet he practice a lot of it by selling books, tickets, membership and getting wilfull private funding from poor and middleclass members. Like most socialists, they will use voluntary trade when it fits him.

[@issintf925]

Please continue the wiemar bank series. Too many historians ignore "banks" for "tanks" and it has left a massive blind spot in the public eye. Thanks for the videos, and have a good day

[@mikewasinger9029]

Agree.

[@insideoutsideupsidedown2218]

Banks and who runs them, the government influence in them, etc.

[@issintf925]

@@insideoutsideupsidedown2218 also important

[@robertthecag1230]

I had to stop reading "The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy" after he wrote that AF had collectivized all farming and hired 11 thousand bureaucrats to monitor them. And called it right wing.

[@kenon6968]

I'm not that far into it but where does he say this?

[@Galland_]

Tooze said in a german interview a couple of months ago that it's an outrage that billionaires exist. A leftie through and through.

[@Fernando-ox5mo]

This is an example of trying to whitewash Capitalism through ideological arguments and childish observations such as the ones about Schacht and central banking.

[@motleyzadot6867]

AF?

[@joshuaellis7612]

@@motleyzadot6867 i think its the arbeitsfront

[@kerbecks5076]

It's a good day when TIK uploads.

[@TheImperatorKnight]

You were second!

[@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004]

@@TheImperatorKnight Fun Fact: If you listen to a Nazi song called "Hitlerleute", Nazis admitted that they are socialist. They just weren't Marxist version of Socialism.

[@nevermindmeijustinjectedaw9988]

mondays are good days

[@jorgmartinbauer5127]

TIK makes my day😅

[@chaoszitrone3270]

I agree

[@Coconutscott]

Never ever use Wikipedia as a source of political or ideological history. All it's good for is checking dates.

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Fun Fact I had fun with the other day. KZbin recommended me a clip from a TV show which I didn't prior know about where HItler Youth were singing/dancing to the Party's Anthem. Well I had the keen observation to actually read the translation of the lyrics while they were singing and just smiled when I say it say "Reactionary Forces." So I couldn't resist but make the joke "Yep you definitely know they're socialist when they refer to the Conservatives who opposed them as Reactionary Forces." You can imagine the kind of replies I got as a result. But yet it's even in the Party's Anthem.

[@_Dovar_]

Horst Wessel Lied?

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@@_Dovar_ The line "Kam’raden die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen"

[@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004]

​@@Alte.KameradenFun Fact: If you listen to a Nazi song called "Hitlerleute", Nazis admit that they are socialist. They just weren't Marxist version of Socialism.

[@royale7620]

It was even in parades and icongraphy. First of all a red flag lol, 2nd the symbols, look at the parades hammers and other working mans symbols, the labour unions, the reformed communists in 1933 that joined NSDAP and idk how true this is is since its just Leon Degrelle that said it in a interview, Goerring's friendship with Ernest Thalmann, being taken out of his prison camp and taken to dine with Goerring

[@Alte.Kameraden]

@LittleDolfie Not once you understand the lyrics. Basically sings about a man who died while they were being ANTIFA.

[@gagamba9198]

Those who do not have Turner's book but want to get a good sample of it, he wrote a paper in 1969 titled 'Big Business and the Rise of Hitler' published by the _The American Historical Review_ . It's available to read for free at jstor. Another good read there is Turner's review of _IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation_ by Edwin Black published in 2001. He documents Black's errors, distortions, and over-eggs. Turner concludes: 'Despite defects that render it all but worthless as an historical study, Black's book must be regarded as a success. Launched by a lavish advertising campaign and released simultaneously with an announcement of a class action suit against IBM on behalf of Holocaust survivors, it quickly became a bestseller in both the United States and Germany. Business is, after all, still business.'

[@JustinBlabber-j1k]

JUST ONE OF THE MANY COMPENIES

[@cas343]

I felt a great disturbance in the dialectic, as if millions of leftists suddenly cried out in incoherent screeching and were suddenly silenced

[@edwardabbey1998]

3rd Reich were leftists lol

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

I had a vision of that guygirl meme screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" after Trump won in 2016.

[@duaneday5474]

😂

[@KatanamasterV]

You asked to hear from reasonably sane people and as a Rothbardian I don't know if I'm sane but I don't think I'm crazy. The most interesting thing, at least to me, in discussions with people about the transitions of Western Civilization Circa mid-20th century is the absolute scramble that they undergo in trying to discuss the concept of private property. Specifically in relation to the German iteration of the mid-twentieth century if they don't like what happened there in Germany had perfect private property laws in spite of the fact that anything you had up to and including your life could be confiscated at any time and if the person being discussed with liked what happened there then there was no violation of private property because any activity undertaken with State approval is not a violation of private property. Absolutely astounding mental gymnastics, 10 out of 10 scorers for some of these folks.

[@CallanElliott]

Not crazy, just too stupidly autistic and somewhat mystified.

[@GregariousAntithesis]

American Libertarianism is a pure oxymoron. You cannot have anarchy with private ownership of means of production. It makes zero sense and defeats the whole point of anarchy. Capitalism by its very nature is exploitive.

[@markmusser2572]

Something to consider from Otto Dietrich himself apparently ignored or not noticed by Shirer and so many others, "Hitler never allowed financial considerations to affect his decisions. The industrial barons did not buy him and bend him to their will. Far from it. On the contrary, he slowly but surely imposed his will upon business. He fitted business into a planned economy and placed it under absolute government control which in the long run could only smother all economic initiative and which culminated in a total war economy." With regard to capitalism on the same page, Dietrich then wrote, "That in its course of evolution society had outgrown the traditional form of autonomous, private capitalism, and that reason demanded a new and more functional economic order, in other words, a planned economy.” This is from his book, "The Hitler I Knew." Not everything Dietrich says is wrong. This is right on target since it is so consistent with what is already known about National Socialism when the lens of political ideology is removed.

[@tombo3689]

The question i have now is: Why did the society demand a new economic order? And if they really did, was it an idea by their own or was it indoctrinated?

[@markmusser2572]

So-called capitalism is almost impossible to defend for those who want security and/or a world without troubles/difficulties, which is pure political mysticism on a par with any religious cult. As such, political indoctrination, sadly, worked hand in hand with what people wanted to the point that it becomes difficult to determine where it all came/comes from. National Socialism could not have become what it was without its popularity at certain levels with what folks wanted or wished. One book you might consider in all this was written by J.P. Stern entitled, "The Fuhrer and the People." Stern comments, "The call for a ‘natural’ leader, for the abolition of politics in favor of nationalism, of civilization, in favor of culture, the appeal to Nature, the blood, the iron Will, the appeal to ‘Northern,’ later ‘Aryan’ values-all these belong to the temper of the Second German Empire. Indeed, there is not a single tenet of the National Socialist Party program of February 1920 or of its later amendments which was not propagated in the political literature before 1914.” Our buddy, Nazi press chief Otto Dietrich, corroborated, “Hitler was thoroughly old-fashioned, a hangover from the 19th century.” Stern undoubtedly is leftist in many ways, but he does show the strong relationship between the German people and the Fuhrer which is routinely dismissed as being something criticial. Madman Hitler then becomes the scapegoat as TIK has routinely pointed out ...

[@liberality]

​@@tombo3689 Ordinary Germans in the 1920s were poor and getting poorer. If they were going to have a revolution, a party that made them feel good about being German was the more attractive of the two.

[@MattWestbrook]

@@tombo3689The Great Depression. But I suspect your question is rhetorical.

[@tombo3689]

@@MattWestbrook No it wasnt. I still dont understand how pople can go for socialism in general? Especially the poor.

[@greggcal4583]

"are political activists and therefore illiterate..." Love TIK's needling.

[@RedFlagSaid]

just generic right-wing bullshit. there are literate and illiterate activists

[@creeperboy6453]

Can't wait for the typical tankies coping in the comments, not watching the video and just saying: "Uuuh, that's wrong" because dismantling their perception of fascism is also dismantling parts of their own ideology.

[@TheImperatorKnight]

They're already doing that!

[@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004]

@@TheImperatorKnight Fun Fact: If you listen to a Nazi song called "Hitlerleute", Nazis admitted that they are socialist. They just weren't Marxist version of Socialism.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Commies don't hate fashies because they're opposites, they hate them because they're so similar but both require cultural and political dominance. There can't be 2 tigers on one mountain.

[@Lonovavir]

The main problem is Communists describe everyone and everything they don't like as fascism and ignore that both ideas come from Hegelian philosophy. If people knew that they'd know the two ideas are more alike than different.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231The history of socialism is full of bitter schisms, divides and offshoots. Bolshevik fought Mensheviks, Stalinists fought Trotskists, the USSR and Mao's China almost went to war with each other. There is no more bitter divide then between those who are close ideologically, because they recognize the danger of the close rival. So socialists braining socialists is normal behavior.

[@aurei44]

I remember growing up & through school & in online spaces you'd be laughed off for using wikipedia, then suddenly everyone was taking that Alphabet run site as gospel. I have no idea what happened, but we're fked.

[@tomhalla426]

Consider Murthy v Missouri as to whom is actually controlling Alphabet’s policy.

[@dragooons176]

Wiki went from ANYONE AND EVERYONE edits everything to normally (normally being the key word) a very select few edits everything. A very politically aligned red banner waving sorts of people. And if communist A takes over a sketchy loan office, then communist B who runs the paper will print how it is and always was the most trust worthy of loan office. That's the Wiki flip in a nutshell, it simply got taken over and went from a chaotic mess to everyone with lots of truth in it, to now a "tool of the party."

[@outstandingodditiesmusic]

There are comic book adaptations of historical events that are more factual than the Marxist drivel on Wikipedia.....but please...give them some money so they can keep "going"...

[@me67galaxylife]

Well once the leftist took charge of it all of a sudden it's a good source funny isn't it

[@DrWrapperband]

and of course the "Gospels" are a load of inconsistent story telling.

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

I can't believe this is a video that needed to be made. People are so beated down by propaganda it's stunning. Thanks for it though, TIK - always a pleasure !

[@JustinBlabber-j1k]

bot

[@Apollo_Mint]

TIK, you really really really need to write a book on this subject that Hitler was a socialist, as was his party. Particularly as referencing and seeing through the clatter is a great strength you have.

[@hanklesacks]

He needs also to research the origin of the word "capitalism", everything becomes clear after

[@lolloblue9646]

He wasn't but okay

[@whisped8145]

When he writes a book, it counts as a source for wikipedia :D

[@anthonychase4364]

Thanks for this analysis. My father was a WW2 British soldier. I am over 70 years old and have a lifelong and genuine interest in our history. Your perspective is heartening for me because it echoes my father's discomfort with the ubiquitous and oft stated orthodoxie about how the nasty capitalists bank- rolled Hitler. My father never accepted this. Having studied post WW2 history, I would repeat this mantra to my father and he just wouldn't accept it. Of course, i now understand that this Marxist driven thesis, which permeated post war academia was profoundly flawed and is now exposed as a fraud. It raises a far more interesting question: if Hitler and his movement were really communists, what were the Nazis doing fighting the Communists in Russia? I don't know the answer, but here's the begging of a possible explanation. Remember that Hitler hated the German military elites, and he deeply mistrusted the Prussian military class. I suggest that Hitler became a means by which the German state avoided an otherwise inevitable civil war in Germany. Just a few thoughts and grateful,for your work.

[@fearlessfosdick160]

The reason that the Nazis despised Communism relates to the "national" part of National Socialism. Nazism was intensely nationalistic, whereas Communism saw itself as an internationalist movement. Nazism saw Communism as the arch enemy of the "pure German state" that the former purported to create.

[@anthonychase4364]

Thanks. That makes perfect sense. @@fearlessfosdick160

[@Jeremy-yp8eh]

​@@fearlessfosdick160 also fascists are Hegelians (idealists) whereas communists are Marxists (materialists), with the Nazis often taking idealism into Occultism what with Hegel deriving his dialectical method from Hermeticism. For the Nazis race wasn't just biological, it was metaphysical, with there being a supposed "volkish gestalt" inherent in Aryans that makes them the "good" master race, as opposed to the Jewish volkish gestalt which the Nazis believed made them into the "evil" master race. As such Nazi elites viewed communism as a secularized form of Judaic, anti-Platonic monotheism, and the other side of the homogenizing effect of capitalism (which was also "Jewish" in their mind). Meanwhile, ordinary Christians were threatened by the Soviet crackdown on Christianity and slaughter of Christians, which Nazi propaganda spun into being a crime committed by "Judeo-Bolsheviks" against Christian Gentiles. Put another way, the Nazis rejected both Marxist "blank slate" theory (and Lamarckian theory, in the case of Lysenko) and western liberal Darwinian theory, since both are materialist accounts of human behavior. For them materialism was merely spiritual blindness and poverty, a sign of our fallen state as compared to a mythical Atlantean/Hyperborean past. Anyways, I always feel so odd whenever talking about Nazi ideology, because my lord, the things they believed were just downright bizarre. I can at least understand Marxism and Italian fascism on a rational level, even though I personally abhor them, but Nazism is legitimately insane, as in it's hard for me to imagine how someone could ever come to believe in it without a lot of mental illness being involved.

[@fearlessfosdick160]

@@Jeremy-yp8ehWhile I can agree with a great deal of that, my intention in that post was to avoid getting too far into those weeds. I admit that my take is a bit oversimplified.

[@Spartan322]

@@Jeremy-yp8eh A lot of German philosophy tends to be rife with insanity that makes you think you're the nutcase when its the damn Germans doing weird things again,

[@sounghungi]

It's a classic internet arguer to never read their sources and ignore anything that goes against their narrative. Every single person that I've had an argument with online does this. Refute your claim without providing any evidence or data. I refute the claims using evidence or data. They ignore the evidence and accuse me of some other issue. I refute that issue with evidence or data. And it keeps going on until they stop responding.

[@TheImperatorKnight]

Yep. That's precisely the tactic they use against me. It's called "whataboutism". "What about the roads? What about a living wage?" It's all a distraction tactic in order to squirm out of dealing with the facts. Now they won't even watch my videos, saying it's "a waste of time", even though it's clearly just because they don't want to look at the evidence.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

@@TheImperatorKnightstupidity bias needs to be added to the list.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

​@@TheImperatorKnightroads and schools are socialism when it's convenient for the argument, and "that wasn't real socialism!" whenever that's convenient, which is most of the time, because there is such a plethora of solid arguments against socialism.

[@SepticFuddy]

@@TheImperatorKnight It IS a waste of time... for them, BECAUSE they refuse to consider the evidence :)

[@Pikilloification]

Imagine arguing about stuff in YT comments...

[@vidura]

You are fighting for the truth itself TIK. No matter what the cost is, it is and always has been a glorious and worthy battle. Godspeed man.

[@Mortablunt]

Against

[@hellequingentlemanbastard9497]

The oldest brother of my grandfather was a German Communist, he was over 20 years older than my grandfather. He had to flee at first Germany and went to the Soviet Union, apparently he was a friend of Nikita Khrushchev. In the Soviet Union he then fell foul of Stalin and had to flee again. He ended up in Canada, but came back to Germany after the War. Since he had no children he wanted to adopt my dad as a heir to his Wealth if my dad would join the Communist Party. My dad was at that time engaged to my mum, and she told my dad if he joins the communists then the wedding is off. After my great-uncles death in the late sixties, everything he owned went to the German Communist Party. I always thought that my dad should have joined, get the Inheritance and then drop the communists afterwards. Showed me that these communists are only in this for themselves in the end, just like the Feudal Lords before.

[@halo3odst]

Sounds to me like the man never really wanted a family so much as somebody to act in his stead when he was gone.

[@georgekosko5124]

​@@halo3odstIt's amazing how many life long communists were bitter and self absorbed egotists. If your ideology hurts your family relations, it's probably a shitty ideology.

[@georgekosko5124]

@CharlesConover Are you referencing Stalin dying in a puddle of his own piss and shit?

[@pietrayday9915]

Bravo to your mother and father for saying NO to commie blood-money. "heir to communist wealth on condition of joining the Party" pretty much says everything you need to know about commies, really....

[@joefoley1480]

"these communists are only in it for themselves" sure just like all of us. Left /right what the fuck do these labels mean anyway?

[@Alte.Kameraden]

11:00 to be honest. I think this falls into the category that Marxist spend their whole lives living on rhetoric and never learned how to comprehend what they're reading. If something goes against their beliefs they bash it down with slogans/phrases because they've been brainwashed to a point that their ability to critically think has been turned into mush. When those beliefs are challenged, similar to say when anyone who is religious has their views challenged, they fall into confusion and even anger because it's outside of their realm of thought. Getting the dates/time periods mixed up also is one of the flaws in the arguments that Hitler was a spy against the Communist in 1919. It relies on placing events out of chronological order, and as a result they believe it because they don't bother to actually think about it, they're conditioned not to think, and only believe in their priest's words. Hitler became a spy before he joined the DAP, but after the Communist Uprising was put down. So if anything he was spying on the DAP not the Communist. Yet so many Socialist believe he was a spy against the Communist... odd aye?

[@richardenders6606]

@AlteKameraden - as Marxists, atheists, cultists and religious believers' ideologies are all faith-based and their beliefs can be neither proved nor disproved, they have to resort to something other than fact or logic to argue their case when challenged As communism has been a failure wherever it has been enforced its enthusiasts can only say it was hijacked or whatever and will deliver paradise if properly implemented, and as most academics and historians are left-leaning it is natural for them to pretend that Hitler was not a socialist and national socialism is not really socialism When Ken Livingstone got into difficulties a few years ago he tried to get around it by saying Hitler started off as a good socialist but "went mad when he gained power and started killing people", the problem being that they all seem to mad

[@moritamikamikara3879]

Well, you say that but that's how it was actually taught to me in history class. I was taught that Hitler had been inserted into the DAP as a spy only to quit as a spy and join the party when he felt their political direction compelling. IDK how truthful this really is though...

[@royale7620]

Sad the life of a Marxist, drowning in sorrows, always a virgin, always online swesting and editing articles. Truly no lifers

[@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf]

"Even the literature of The Party will change. Even the slogans will change. How could you have a slogan like Freedom is Slavery when the concept of freedom has been abolished? The whole climate of thought will be different. In fact, there will be no thought, as we understand it now. Orthodoxy means not thinking-not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness." "To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself-that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word-doublethink-involved the use of doublethink." "The mind should develop a blind spot whenever a dangerous thought presented itself. The process should be automatic, instinctive. Crimestop, they called it in Newspeak. . . . He set to work to exercise himself in crimestop. He presented himself with propositions-'the Party says the Earth is flat', 'the Party says that ice is heavier than water'-and trained himself in not seeing or not understanding the arguments that contradicted them." "Crimestop means the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought. It includes the power of not grasping analogies, of failing to perceive logical errors, of misunderstanding the simplest arguments if they are inimical to Ingsoc, and of being bored or repelled by any train of thought which is capable of leading in a heretical direction. Crimestop, in short, means protective stupidity." -1984

[@neilreynolds3858]

@@IsmaelSantos-xv9qf I've got a friend like that. When all else fails to protect her from the illogic of her position, she lapses into babbling incoherently. The psychology of it is interesting - she doesn't allow herself to understand where the emotional responses came from and after 60 years of reinforcement it's not possible for her to change. She's not unique: I knew a lot of people like that in the 1970s so I keep her around to remind me of how rational thought has nothing to do with most people's opinions and actions. If people have a feeling, anything will justify acting on it.

[@drakmatheism]

You're slowly making your "H1tl3r was a socialist" narrative less deniable.

[@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004]

Fun Fact: If you listen to a Nazi song called "Hitlerleute", Nazis admitted that they are socialist. They just weren't Marxist version of Socialism.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

It was always undeniable, TIK is just pointing a light on that.

[@drakmatheism]

@@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 I'm not sure about that. When he decided to leave socialism (Back in 2018) his theory that H1tl3r was a socialist didn't seem to be very accurate.

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

The Distributist mocks people who say he was

[@mitchconner6831]

@@drakmatheismyou based this on what? You’re a socialist and mustache man was bad so therefore he wasn’t a socialist?

[@jecejka]

All hail the return of The Imperator Knight!

[@rpgcraftsman520]

Is THAT what TIK stands for? XD

[@jecejka]

@@rpgcraftsman520 Yep! He revealed that in one of his Q&A videos. 😉

[@P4neK4ke]

@@jecejkaI always thought it was "Incongruous"...ah well,

[@wesjanson6979]

@@jecejka if you've been following for long enough it used to be the channel name before it got shortened to TIK

[@jecejka]

@@rpgcraftsman520 Yep! I discovered this by accident just a few days ago 😊

[@night6724]

17:35 - Interestingly, on wikipedia it list Schact's political party as Nazi (1937-1943; As an honorary member) Since when did the Nazis give "honorary" membership? They wouldn't even allow military officers to be officially registered members. The article later writes; Schacht also was made a member of the Academy for German Law.[21] He was appointed General Plenipotentiary for the War Economy in May 1935 by provision of the Reich Defense Law of 21 May 1935[22] and was awarded honorary membership in the NSDAP and the Golden Party Badge in January 1937. So it claims he was awarded honorary membership at the Golden Party Badge in 1937 but inexplicitly leaves the footnote off even AFTER citing the source for the other claim mid sentence...

[@Mortablunt]

Numerous members of the German military were registered Nazis. You can shut the fuck up and get out of your sister and into a book.

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

The easiest socialist detector in existence: if you wonder if someone is a socialist, just point to other socialists and ask if those people are true socialists.

[@jonnyd9351]

Or just ask if they think they should be allowed to murder their landlord and boss.

[@Ema6835]

Ahahahaha

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

The Nazis were anti-socialist.

[@Trutheynesky]

Ask them if they like their family

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

@@Trutheynesky "I have come to set son against father, and a daughter against her mother."

[@sonnyjim5268]

You touched on it Tik, but even if some industrialist did give money, it would have been a drop in the bucket and hardly the main source of funds the Nazis utilised. Another excellent job, keep up the good work.

[@orksy2935]

Hearing that the party was primarily funded by donations from followers really reminds me of how Jim Jones operated.

[@agesflow6815]

Thank you, TIKhistory.

[@csmth96]

National Socialist is a Socialist. Hitler never accepted Capitalism. That is.

[@umtic]

a national socialist is a national socialist. Socialism is about internationalism and national socialists were obviously against that. Capitalism is also internationalist and they were also against that

[@umtic]

@@Josh_728 exactly. fearmongering over ambigious words is not a good thing to do

[@TheWiggum123]

@@Josh_728guild use to be classified as socialism however with introduction of corporatism using a similar economic model we just call it, corporatism/fascism in modern usage. It isn’t always just a name.

[@umtic]

@@TheWiggum123 corporatism is not necessarily a fascist idea. it's a main frame of a lot of religious and conservative and even some liberal movements

[@TheWiggum123]

@@umtic no and neither are guilds, but the two together create fascism, corporatism is the value placed on the macro aspect of society. In small communities it can be helpful or detrimentally. It depends heavily on what values are held. Don’t get stuck in socialism - capitalism spectrum, in reality there isn’t a spectrum but rather clusters of belief, value/virtues and organisation. The workers/capitalists own the means of production is really just a heuristic.

[@SergioKoolhaas]

Sixth comment? Am I a mad man for listening to the 5 hour Hitler's socialism video multiple times?

[@flameguy3416]

Well you could spend your time doing lesser things like playing video games or jerking off, so no

[@freddykingofturtles]

No, it's helpful to review a subject when there is opposition to an idea.

[@SergioKoolhaas]

@@freddykingofturtles I agree, because for years I was confused with the idea of the Nazis and Fascists being on the "far right". Because if individualism and free market capitalism are on the right, an AnCap would be "far right" by that logic. So how did two collectivist, totalitarian ideologies got shoved onto the right?

[@cryptocracia3479]

a strategy by the communists to shift blame on individualists/capitalists for the genocides THEY made.@@SergioKoolhaas

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Probably.

[@maxromisch3361]

Yes, there are a few of us remaining who are sane. Keep this up, please, for the sake of society. If you wrote a book on this subject, I'd be the first one to buy multiple copies.

[@ylvavholmsgaard5703]

Thank you!! I spent 7 years studying history at university, and you are speaking more sense than anything I heard all those years.

[@Arkantos117]

Reminds me of the old, "Mussolini couldn't be a socialist because he persecuted 'actual' socialists." These people simply cannot think.

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

They do this to support the "real socialism has never been tried" bullshit.

[@lightdampsweetenough2065]

well mussolini got a salery from Mi6.. go figure..

[@JulianH-co7qg]

​@@lightdampsweetenough2065 No he didn't 😂

[@Planeet-Long]

One could say the same about Lenin and Trotsky and Stalin and Mao, Etc.

[@MrE-u4z]

Because socialists never kill other socialists. All socialists always agree with each other and never have any infighting or power struggles.

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

Another wonderful video. Why do I think your work is important, and so very useful? Because you diligently cite all your sources and quote other historians and historical persons involved directly. So when a rabid Socialist tries to bullshit you by saying "Prove what you are saying is true - you can't!", no, I actually CAN. I can point out all these hard facts and quotes you have dug up, and use the hard work you have done to refute these lazy, dangerous idiots. Thank you TIK, you are doing extremely important work, even if you sometimes feel frustrated and burnt out. This is so damn important because Socialism has become so popular amongst the historically illiterate and disenfranchised these days who didn't live through it's early horrors, and have no real frame of reference as to why it is so dangerous. The lessons humanity learned then are being forgotten, and so they MUST be constantly re-taught every generation or they will be repeated to the tune of economic collapse, dictatorship, genocide, and famine. The myth that history's biggest bogey-man, Hitler, was a Capitalist and therefore Capitalism is evil, needs exposed and taken away from the Socialists who try to use that bull to demonize Capitalism and push their ideas, and the fact that he was indeed a Socialist added to the mountain of evidence that Socialism always leads to devastating human misery. I don't want to live in a Socialist state with those horrors. Thank you for fighting this fight for my sake, and all our sakes, even though idiots must make it very unpleasant for you sometimes. Hope my sincere thanks and encouragement bolster your spirits.

[@TheImperatorKnight]

Thank you, and it did. I am and have been burnt out because I am frustrated that I'm not getting through to these people (who reject the evidence). I'm realising though that I was a little pessemistic. It does appear that I have gotten through to some people, and obviously I'm not the only one fighting the nonsense. People like yourself are using the evidence I'm providing to challenge the fanatics, and so, while I may fail to get through to them, it's still important to make these videos in the hopes that someone else can actually get them to listen.

[@mcchuggernaut9378]

@@TheImperatorKnight If not get them to listen, at least give others the tools to properly refute and shut their arguments down. That's just as important. You may never change a fanatic, but you can make em' look stupid and keep their ideas from becoming mainstream to the point we are governed by them.

[@NJP9036]

You are correct it is sickening. Soon Wiki will be replaced by ChatGP... Thank you Mr. TIK.

[@jonnyd9351]

"What are you talking about, the official government AI just said hitler was a capitalist!"

[@Br1cht]

Programmed by whom?

[@sdrc92126]

@@Br1cht African American SS troops

[@neilreynolds3858]

I still rely on books. They can't be rewritten at will by some lunatic.

[@sdrc92126]

@@neilreynolds3858 _Fahrenheit 459_

[@saytax]

Thank you for bring us more knowledge, TIK. You are destroying the mainstream lies I've heard since I was a kid in school and it is liberating, while also stressful to realize how easy it is to go along with a lie.

[@koalabear1984]

Thank God we have a voice of reason

[@JustinBlabber-j1k]

bot

[@friendlyfire7861]

The real intellectuals are here online, not in the universities. Great job, TIK! 👍👍

[@BurghezulDjentilom]

Nah, academics are smart. Problem is - they're often evil too. The man behind the cambodian killing fields was a Sorbonne graduate, for example. Moreover, if we look at how Thomas Sowell talked about intellectuals, that is people who trade mainly in their ideas - they almost never answer for the disastrous effects of said ideas.

[@rankedpsiguy1]

TIK is exactly correct. Here in America we are now EXPECTED to DENY what we SEE and ACCEPT what the MEDIA and POLITICIANS (sorry for redundancy) SAY. Example: Inflation is going DOWN. Meanwhile we watch our COSTS on EVERYTHING go UP.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

People in communist countries are also expected to reject reality and accept the party gospel as the real truth. Even when they were starving they were expected to believe that the USSR was the envy of the world and that everyone else wished to be there. Sadly our media has been taken over by marxist activists and our politicians become ever more leftwing authoritarian. Although they have always tried to convince the public of how well they were doing and how everybody was doing better because of them.

[@JoshDTech]

The party most essential command.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

Oh that's the messed up part, they aren't completely lying because our GDP is up. The greatest lies always have a sliver of truth as a bedrock.

[@fairhall001]

This was happening in Russia prior to the fall of the soviets, people would be told everything was okay but could see for themselves it wasn't

[@PaulthePhilosopher2]

Glad to see you following references to sources and doing actual research as a historian should. I can only subscribe once.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

8:01 Or the people writing Wikipedia are not native English speakers and therefore prone to such mistakes

[@bustercrabbe8447]

Marxist socialism advocated capitalism as a quick means of providing the material things to initiate the 'dictatorship of the proletariat' - so even Karl Marx supported capitalism as a means to his ends. Lenin followed suit. And today communist China has capitalist free economic zones the size of Texas (where Dell computers are manufactured). Hitlerian Socialism (aka National Socialism) followed suit that despite Hitler's disdain of capitalism, he controlled capitalism with state agencies for capitalism's ability to mass produce quickly. So NO Hitler wasn't funded into power by the 'capitalists', the capitalists were under Hitler's state socialist control. Hitler was a puppet of the German Officer Corps.

[@smarterthanurkel]

As today big companies and networks sponsor each party at some point with no regard to ideology. They pay for getting access to decision makers. Nevertheless, the main icome sources of NSDAP and SA were membership fees, collection at party/rallye events, sales of materials for politcal education (like books and pamphlets), sales of party uniforms, clothing, shoes by companies ran by the NS party and the SA and insurances. The SA ran an insurance company that insured diverse risks linked with political avtivities and party action.

[@1977Yakko]

I always assumed that when someone claims Hitler was supported by capitalism, that it was in reference to the German Military Industrial Complex that built his war machine but I see now that narrative goes well before that and is insidious with its history revisionism.

[@empyrean9712]

Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen’s US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war. August von Finck was one of the most influential bankers of the Weimar Republic and Nazi Germany. He financed Hitler in the 1930s. He was described as the ‘richest and stingiest’ man in Bavaria.

[@oscartang4587u3]

As TIK claimed Fritz Thyssen was the only industrialist who committed to support Hitler prior to Hitler seizure of power. 10:22 August von Finck - the related section 8:15 Bush - Firstly, they didn’t “support” Hitler unconditionally. They profited from it, just like Toshiba and Metropolitan-Vickers profited from having business with the USSR in 1987 and 1933, respectively. Secondly, not only did Foreign Capitalist “supported” Nazi, Soviet Union also “supported” Nazi Germany with 1,600,000 tons of grains, 900,000 tons of oil, 200,000 tons of cotton, 140,000 tons of manganese, 200,000 tons of phosphates, 20,000 tons of chrome ore, 18,000 tons of rubber 100,000 tons of soybeans, 500,000 tons of iron ores, 300,000 tons of scrap metal and pig iron, 2,000 kilograms of platinum though German-Soviet Credit Agreement (1939). At the same time, Nazis entailed Soviet obligations to deliver 180 million Reichsmarks in raw materials and German commitment to provide the Soviets with 120 million Reichsmarks of German industrial goods. Fascist Italy also provided the USSR with the ship design blueprint of the Kirov-class cruiser and even helped them build the destroyer Tashkent. If Hilter can be classified as Capitalist just because American capitalism “supported” him, would it also make Hitler a Communist because the USSR also “supported” him? How about those Soviet communists? They were also “supported” by Nazi German, Fascist Italy, not to mention the supported by lend-lease from the Capitalist USA during WWII. The other case would be Cuba. It is currently actively seeking investment from foreign capitalist companies. Does it make them not practising Socialism?

[@markivy3451]

Ive never heard that he was funded into power like that,but that the war was funded on both sides. By the same people

[@MorsInferna]

Welcome come back Master

[@keithbessant]

'But judged by the large sums which the party had at its disposal in those days...the total gifts from business were certainly larger than these estimates by many times.' He claims that if the Nazis had a lot of money, it must have come from business. He completely misses out all the funds it was getting from its members and elsewhere.

[@simonshaffer]

Ha! Just love the way you can't leave the tricky stuff alone… keep it up.

[@etiennepilorget8777]

As you ask at the end of the video for the public opinion, I will seize the opportunity to congratulate you for all your good work. Your teaching about marxism, economy, the roots of the different totalitarian ideologies, the vanity of the classic political left-right division, all that is great. I don't know if you will read this, but here it is : you said you discovered "the truth" about leftist lies around thirty, so that's only six years of progress in your historical researches. And you wonder how many sane people are left. Well, I made the same discovery that you made, but it was when I was twenty, at the uni. I was bound to become a civil servant and was studying law, history, political science. I enjoyed that mix very much, but was left unsatisfied, and something kept bothering me : everything seemed to begin in France in 1789. Before that, it was the complete darkness of ignorance, and a void for us students. It didn't matter and we had no meaningful knowledge about it. Everything was said to have been created from nothing in 1789-1791, and everything in the Republic was good. The Republic was God. So progress had been made nevertheless since the Revolution, and it was in the way of more State, more equality, more interventionism. The State was assumed to be able to take care of everything. And that was great. Then I went to an old book shop and purchased books that had been printed before 1945. And then the light came : there had once been a world where traditions were important, humanities, culture, education mattered highly, where the school standards were far higher, when personal inequality was deemed normal (even by the majority of the saner leftists). A world which had roots in the past. And then I began wondering "why has it changed so much in so short a period of time?". I discovered that if one does not read modern literature, but goes directly to the source, one will find that there was a far more complex and far more human world before 1945 (a world with far more natural inequalities too). A world with more spaces of liberty, an almost absolute freedom of speech, and which produced cultural works of far more interest than nowadays sh*t (which is supposed to be revolutionary but is not). And little by little, I got back in time, from the XIXth century to the "Ancien Régime", back up to the Greeks and the Romans (when you seem stuck in the early XXth century). And since then I was never able since to get back into the mainstream culture. I am not "far-right", I only like truth and liberty (as you do). I discovered how in 1945 old France was wiped out of the map, the communist party taking the place and "erasing" the past (sometimes using the same means as the nazis!!). How the primary school textbooks had been manipulated since the 1880's to incorporate the leftist ideology, to the detriment of historical truth. All the blatant lies (they were less obvious in the 90's, but already very much omnipresent, political correctness being already pervasive) of the Left, since 1789 (and even before that in the works of the superficial "philosophes") were in a crude light. I think we would have much to say to each others, if only I had your email...

[@OneTruePhreak]

When I first found this channel, I spent months, watching all your videos, checking your sources, and going down the rabbit hole of contradictory sources. I found most contradictory sources are based upon unverifiable secondary sources and opinions. Your content is the most verifiable, historically accurate WWII content I've found on KZbin. It should be mandatory viewing, for all elementary school history classes, along with Metatron, for medieval and Roman history.

[@iGamezRo]

It is so sad seeing TIK having to explain the same point with different arguments and examples just because some people believe in a failed ideology because it claims to lift them out of their mom's basement because they graduated from an useless college with no job opportunity and are now drowning in debt while working minimum-wage at their local Walmart.

[@TheImperatorKnight]

To be fair, I was in the same position as them for a while, and it's difficult to snap out of it. We are dealing with people who believe themselves to be atheists, but who are, in fact, religious fanatics.

[@iGamezRo]

@TheImperatorKnight They believe in a non-theistic religion. They believe that Heaven is on here, on earth, and that they are the chosen ones through their political struggle. Like in any religion, you have to claim Heaven. This is how you claim it in their religion.

[@michaelreimer951]

I am just always reminded of Kripke's Theory that some sentences are both true and false at the same time. It is the key to pretty much all political rehtoric to ride this fine line as best they can. As William James would say, there is no worse truth than people than misunderstand it. Just saw Kung Fu Panda 4 and Po says "He that resorts to violence now will only find more violence later". The mob then decides it was better to lay down arms so they can inflict more harm at a later time. Was a hilarious example of that philosophy that seems to be true. I believe Jame's also said verbatim "the reason people don't believe the truth is because you are not doing a good enough job explaining the truth". I have to appreciate TIK realizing these philosophical concepts and continue to work on fortifying the truths to compare with partial truths that can tend to influence willing people.

[@qstorius]

Tik, you should really make a video regarding the historiography of that era

[@Lavader_]

Made a video discussing this topic not too long ago on my channel, glad to see you expanding on it more!

[@hafizihilmibinabdulhalim1004]

Nice Video

[@stevenleslie8557]

Someone saw a portrait of Stalin in Saddam Hussein's office and said to the brutal dictator, Saddam why do you have a portrait of Stalin on the wall. You are not a communist? Saddam replied, well then, neither was Stalin.

[@joshuamaurer9784]

Hey! Sane person here. Even if this doesn't convince Marxists to question the ideology, it will be good evidence for those watching a debate or argument to be more informed of the truth

[@GastonNaboulet]

11:50 Speaking of possible conspiracies, Hitler was a failed coup plotter who was later pardoned, and it would have been very difficult to get Hitler up by giving him support. I would recommend investigating those who allowed Hitler to rise to power, because at that time it would have been impossible to overestimate Hitler.

[@flameguy3416]

So he did a Kickstarter or an Indiegogo?

[@asumazilla]

Yes, crowd funding.

[@usun_current5786]

Wait, mods, I am not allowed to say that I prefer national socialism over modern late stage capitalism?

[@GenocideWesterners]

National Socialism>>> the modern system.

[@GenocideWesterners]

And I'm not even white.

[@laisphinto6372]

Why? National Socialism only "worked" because they robbed the Jews and then exploited by from reckless conquest and Plundering ,their system only works with Military success and even then they only Had short Term success in mind since they are shitty Long Term governors and have No clue how to rule an Empire,this IS why they collapsed so quickly AS they rose

[@RealBadgerScrutiny]

Tik, you seriously need to make a video about the Anschluss!!!

[@antoniod]

My Brother once raved "we (the US) could have nipped Nazism in the bud! We supported Hitler because we wanted a free market economy in Germany!" I didn't know what the hell he was talking about.

[@buoazej]

Well, Wall Street and London City granted economic stimulus loans to Germany in 1930's, while denying them to Poland. Add voluntary donation to Germany of $ 9 million in gold in early 1939 by BoE and BIS, as reported by The Telegraph in 2013, on top of that. Also, Trading With an Enemy Act. Nazis were the creation of the West IMO. I've even read that American-made guns were transported to Berlin in early 1930's via Elbe river and canals.

[@oscartang4587u3]

@@buoazej In the meantime, Soviet Union supplied Nazi Germany with 1,600,000 tons of grains, 900,000 tons of oil, 200,000 tons of cotton, 140,000 tons of manganese, 200,000 tons of phosphates, 20,000 tons of chrome ore, 18,000 tons of rubber 100,000 tons of soybeans, 500,000 tons of iron ores, 300,000 tons of scrap metal and pig iron, 2,000 kilograms of platinum though German-Soviet Credit Agreement (1939). Communist Romania also accepted loans from Capitalist Western countries since early 1970s. Having any economic transaction with Capitalist/Fascist/Nazi/Monarchist would not make any state become a Capitalist/Fascist/Nazi/Monarchist state.

[@mfromaustralia1]

Whacko Tik ! Mate, you are on fire today. What a fantastic analysis and a good poke in the eye for some of these lesser historians.

[@WilfChadwick]

Finck and Schmitt must have been the ones that inspired Amber Heard and her charity "donations".

[@JohnGaltGurgi]

Does TIK have a book list of authors he believes are more honest or more accurate? I would be interested in that to help me figure out who I want to read.

[@anton2192]

"The Capitalists" here are a lot less like shadowy puppetmasters but more like rats jumping ship.

[@pedronotr]

Your channel is very important to help debunk lies against national socialism. Thank you!

[@larsrons7937]

Thank you TIK for this dive into a common misconception. Cheers from Denmark.

[@taivaansusi]

Thank you again. I really appreciate your meticulous examination of sources. For national socialist anti-smoking campaigns, I recommend Proctor's The Nazi War on Cancer (1999).

[@brandymaboy1979]

Book looks totally legit. Just one question though. Why was Prescott Bush’s Union Bank closed by the FBI again?

[@oscartang4587u3]

Because they made deal with a sectioned country that USA fought against during WWII.However those Bank didn’t “support” Hitler unconditionally. They profited from it, just like Toshiba and Metropolitan-Vickers profited from having business with the USSR in 1987 and 1933, respectively. Secondly, not only did Foreign Capitalist “supported” Nazi, Soviet Union also “supported” Nazi Germany with 1,600,000 tons of grains, 900,000 tons of oil, 200,000 tons of cotton, 140,000 tons of manganese, 200,000 tons of phosphates, 20,000 tons of chrome ore, 18,000 tons of rubber 100,000 tons of soybeans, 500,000 tons of iron ores, 300,000 tons of scrap metal and pig iron, 2,000 kilograms of platinum though German-Soviet Credit Agreement (1939). At the same time, Nazis entailed Soviet obligations to deliver 180 million Reichsmarks in raw materials and German commitment to provide the Soviets with 120 million Reichsmarks of German industrial goods. Fascist Italy also provided the USSR with the ship design blueprint of the Kirov-class cruiser and even helped them build the destroyer Tashkent. If Hilter can be classified as Capitalist just because American capitalism “supported” him, would it also make Hitler a Communist because the USSR also “supported” him? How about those Soviet communists? They were also “supported” by Nazi German, Fascist Italy, not to mention the supported by lend-lease from the Capitalist USA during WWII. The other case would be Cuba. It is currently actively seeking investment from foreign capitalist companies. Does it make them not practising Socialism?

[@drdeadred851]

Its a nit pick sort of detail, but I think a title like "Was Hitler funded by the Capitalists?" would probably work better. I'd imagine if someone was searching about this topic that would be what they'd google, plus it also makes it sound more neutral and passive which for a total stranger to the channel would probably make them more open to hearing you out. Rather than them seeing a statement of fact sounding title, which again to a total stranger or someone with the already opposing opinion could make them just write off the video and channel at a glance, seeing a question both matches what their searching and makes it more approachable. Being fully honest I've written off video's based off the titles on KZbin, because frankly most of the time you can accurately judge a book by its cover from my experience of watching them, not that there arent good arguments out there more just that there is 10x as many people just making totally politically partisan 10 minute videos as well and they clog up your feed a lot more easily. I wouldnt even say its a matter of being closed minded, its just not practical to try and watch every video out there, so your forced by reality to judge a book by its cover. Anyway love the vid keep up the good work!

[@RickJohnyALL-PROProcue]

Good point. Hope this doesn't go unseen.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

I think the title works as a good thesis statement.

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

The problem as I see it is that “capitalist” is such a nebulous and flippantly used term that it lacks and precision in description when accuracy in a conversation like this is so paramount.

[@laisphinto6372]

Yeah IT seems to devolve into everyone with Money IS a capitalist which would make even communists capitalists which makes No Sense because capitalism is more of a modern Idea and Not AS old AS Money itself

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

@@laisphinto6372 To be fair to the communists I think they define capitalists as anyone who owns private property, which here means property that can generate wealth passively. The problem is nearly anyone can own some form of private property.

[@GastonNaboulet]

15:08 The confusion between big business and capitalism is a construction of communism, which, because it is totalitarian, defines as capitalism everything that is not communism. Surely there were big socialist businessmen who needed to maintain a socialist government because they were horrified by Lenin's "achievements" in the Soviet Revolution, those recounted in The Gulag Archipelago, which were not known worldwide but were surely well known in Germany.

[@eliahelfenbein4731]

Hey TIK here is a supporter of your work. I like how you dont take the simple (in most cases wrong) answere and go on with your day. You put in so much effort to finde the truth. That is why I love watching your videos. Thank you so much for your content.

[@jw_25]

Absolutely astonishing research on your part! I was under the deluded myth until I saw this video. Thank you so very much.

[@TheImperatorKnight]

Glad it was helpful!

[@TheRealOBZRV]

But what about IBM, Fanta, GE, and the Union Bank Corporation?

[@oscartang4587u3]

Firstly, those happened after 1933, after Hitler get into power. Secondly, those companies didn’t “support” Hitler unconditionally. They profited from it, just like Toshiba and Metropolitan-Vickers profited from having business with the USSR in 1987 and 1933, respectively. To answer your more fundamental question, would anyone become a Capitalist/Fascist/Nazi/Monarchist just because they traded with or were supported by a Capitalist/Fascist/Nazi/Monarchist? If Hilter can be classified as Capitalist just because American capitalism “supported” him, Hitler would also be a Communist, because not only did Foreign Capitalist “supported” Nazi, Soviet Union also “supported” Nazi Germany with 1,600,000 tons of grains, 900,000 tons of oil, 200,000 tons of cotton, 140,000 tons of manganese, 200,000 tons of phosphates, 20,000 tons of chrome ore, 18,000 tons of rubber 100,000 tons of soybeans, 500,000 tons of iron ores, 300,000 tons of scrap metal and pig iron, 2,000 kilograms of platinum though German-Soviet Credit Agreement (1939). At the same time, Nazis entailed Soviet obligations to deliver 180 million Reichsmarks in raw materials and German commitment to provide the Soviets with 120 million Reichsmarks of German industrial goods. Fascist Italy also provided the USSR with the ship design blueprint of the Kirov-class cruiser and even helped them build the destroyer Tashkent. Soviet communists were “supported” by Nazi German, Fascist Italy, not to mention the supported by lend-lease from the Capitalist USA during WWII. With that logic USSR communism would just be the Nazism, Fascism, and Capitalist.

[@Hillbilly001]

Excellent video again TiK. Cheers from Tennessee

[@XtoDoubt25]

Greatest state in the Union!

[@Hillbilly001]

@@XtoDoubt25 We like to think so, but we do have our issues. But, it's home.

[@tombrunila2695]

One thing that I find amusing is how leftists try desperately to deny the fact that Franco did not join Hitler in WWII, but kept Spain out of the war! No, Franco was not a nice person. He was smart and he was a nationalist. Franco, like most leaders of neutral countries in Europe, cooperated with Germany and took the German point of view into consideration. Mainly because it was the prudent way to act and keep the country out of the war!

[@jonramsey6348]

NEW SUBSCRIBER HERE…Greetings from East Texas love your stuff brother man.. I wouldn’t be surprised if you end up with your own TV history program 🎉🤙

[@Ciborium]

Wikipedia bias is not helped with their policy of not permitting reference to *primary sources.* You can only site an *approved source* that references that primary source. You can't cite the original primary source. So Wikipedia articles have two layers of bias, one of the editor and one of the "approved source".

[@TheImperatorKnight]

Is that a genuine policy?? Wow!

[@AmirDarkOne]

​@@TheImperatorKnight a few days ago journalist started gamergate 2 by harassing a Brazilian gamer ,with direct quotes from "Sweet baby inc" employees in twitter, but Wikipedia doesn't expect them as evidence "reputable publication haven't reported on it"

[@TheImperatorKnight]

I know about Gamergate 2, I've actually been watching Clownfish TV's coverage of the topic. But it's not surprising that Wikipedia is siding on the woke side. However, is this just in this instance, or is it across the board? I've seen Wikipedia use primary sources in some history articles, so I'm questioning if this is a official policy, or an excuse?

[@AmirDarkOne]

@@TheImperatorKnight Wikipedia:No original research : "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research. On Wikipedia, original research means material-such as facts, allegations, and ideas-for which no reliable, published source exists.[a] This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that reaches or implies a conclusion not stated by the sources. To demonstrate that you are not adding original research, you must be able to cite reliable, published sources that are directly related to the topic of the article and directly support[b] the material being presented. Primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care." not only they don't expect primary sources, it also has to be reported on by " reputable publishers" aka who ever they like.

[@lolloblue9646]

​@@TheImperatorKnightannnnnd you proved yourself a clown by saying "woke side". The Reichwing at it again trying to claim they don't mimic Hitlerian BS

[@ZoranZoltanous]

TIK I have a very interesting idea for a video! Have you ever thought about doing a video going through the communist manifesto is planks, and explaining which one’s Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany enforced? Because I counted 8 out of 10 being used by them. And if you look to America, the Silver Legion technically supported 9 out of 10 because they wanted to get rid of inheritance (No More Hunger).

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

That sounds like a great idea for a video

[@hansjuker8296]

Communists vs. Bankers....with gentiles paying the price.

[@nicholasconder4703]

One correction to your narrative that I think you should address. William L. Shirer was NOT a historian, he was a journalist. As such, although he was writing his books based on his experiences of the time, they were written without critical review. As such, any historian citing the sources should have checked the veracity of the statements, rather than accept them at face value. In this matter the fault lies more with the historians than Shirer, who probably didn't even look at, or fully understand, the nuances of Nazi economics. I would also point out that things like bank records would likely not have been available to Shirer, and so he would not have been able to confirm whether the transactions had taken place or not. In addition, the biggest issue with defining Nazism as being either capitalist or socialist comes down to the fact that many historians looked at the veneer, and thought "If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it must be a duck". Many post-war historians saw a militaristic dictatorship that had a veneer of capitalism (wealthy bankers and what appeared to be privately owned companies) and ASSUMED that they were looking at a capitalistic system. It is only now, when people are looking for something else to write about regarding the 3rd Reich that historians are actually digging beneath the surface and uncovering the socialist aspects of Nazi Germany. So calling this all a "Socialist plot" is, in my opinion, going a bit too far. I would say this misconception is more the result of lack of access to critical archives and data, and laziness on the part of many post-war historians, who seemed to be willing to quote quotes of quoted material rather than put in the laborious work of going back to original sources and actually doing research!

[@drax3373]

Just read this on Wikipedia (Nazi Party article): Initially, Nazi political strategy focused on anti-big business, anti-bourgeois, and anti-capitalist rhetoric; it was later downplayed to gain the support of business leaders. So even Wikipedia concedes the party at least started as, well, sounds pretty left wing to me.

[@icarvs_vivit]

The other day I was reading Tauger on his natural disaster theory of the soviet "famine" (genocide) in Ukraine. Needless to say your own frustrations echo my own. I don't like thinking of men as willfully and ideologically ignorant, especially one I know so little about, but seeing him, and the people who cite him, so exclusively use picked stats from the Soviet archives to cast doubt on the event, without caveat of "albeit this data was recorded by a tyrannical dictatorship", puts me into flight of rage. There are some cases where a historian's work demonstrates so plainly his conclusion in search of evidence and such Marxist apologia is chief and most infuriating among them.

[@dylanbecker3979]

Even the russian empire had massive problems with famine. The whole region was already a hotspot for it so of course using food to industrialize was going to cause a huge problem. A problem that was far less disasterous than not being industrialized considering what happened 10 years later. China was another who used food to industrialize and assure they wouldnt be taken for another century of humiliation. Both horrible they happened. Plenty of famines all over from imperialism in poor countries never get mentioned though for some reason.

[@icarvs_vivit]

@@dylanbecker3979 During the Russian Empire, there were famines in the rest of Russia, not their "Breadbasket" of Ukraine. There were three, however, during just the early Soviet rule which had notable starvation in Ukraine, and all of them have pretty clear evidence supporting of the hypothesis of their policy-based creation. During at least the worst of such Soviet famines, MORE people died in said "Breadbasket" than in the rest of Russia by many times. You can't be honest and think that such a phenomena is purely natural.

[@michaelbishop1]

It has been an argument I have been making for twenty years, socialism was the product that was being sold, just because the NSDAP was bad at implementation doesn’t make the NSDP capitalist or kleptocrats as they are alternatively identified as.

[@briantaylor7120]

what is your take on antony c sutton's books he said his sources came from the u.s. state department files edit: also if it is true that hitler was funded by capitalists that would not necessarily mean he was capitalist

[@dannye7612]

He doesn't deal with the actual evidence Sutton provides that proves funding came by way of Wall St. He just argues against Sutton's light suggestion that it could be a grand conspiracy. So it's weird he still claims there's no evidence that the funding happened. Such is life.

[@Dave5843-d9m]

Fash and Coms gated each other because their theologies were fighting for the same audience. Both grew from the nutterism of Marx.

[@ZoranZoltanous]

Regarding some books, I would recommend The Nazi War Against Capitalism and When Brown Meets Red: Nazi-Communist Collaboration 1919-1945 by Nevin Gussack. Brown Meets Red is interesting because it actually has proof that is documented of Stalin funding the Nazi party during the 1930s and up to 1932

[@Chud_Bud_Supreme]

Stalin funding the NSDAP??? Wow, even I didn't know about that I hate when people deny that AH was a socialist. The Distributist does that, and that's why I stopped watching him

[@nicolasgjenganger5436]

8:22 100 million Reichseuros 😆

[@christopherconard2831]

I have the urge to repeat that with a Dr Evil voice.

[@AteshSeruhn]

@@christopherconard2831 don't forget the pinky finger 😏

[@JulianH-co7qg]

I feel bad for leftists who parrot the lie that the National Socialists were capitalist 😂😂

[@SeanBeatsMapson]

Leftists native tongue is lies.

[@royale7620]

Dont 😂😂 they sealed their fate by pursuing such a failed ideology

[@Mortablunt]

But they were capitalist the allied with businesses instead of a polishing private ownership and nationalizing them the outlaw the trade unions and put the union members in jail the outboard all the communist and socialist parties and put their members in the concentration camps then they went to war of the Soviet union in explicit attempted to wipe communism off the face of the earth! Of course, they were capitalist you inbred waste of life!

[@colebehnke7767]

​@@Mortabluntwow you should watch the video, and the rest in the series.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

Hitler was a socialist, but not in the Marxist sense - I would agree with that. But we have to be careful to use the word 'socialist', as that implies some kind of identification with Marxist principles, which absolutely does not apply to Hitler. I would prefer using the word 'statist', which more adequately describes Fascist and also National-Socialist socio-economic principles, the latter distinguishing itself by its advocacy of racialism as one of its principal political cornerstones.

[@Dario-uj6qo]

Socialism is older than marxism

[@bakerboat4572]

TIK has made this distinction before between Marxist (Class) socialism and National (Racial) socialism before, most notably in his Hitler's Socialism videos. Though describing Nazism and fascism as "statist" are good analytical terms, National socialism (Nazism) is still correctly identified as a form of socialism.

[@cryptarisprotocol1872]

If you would just realize Socialism predates Marxism and calling it 'statist' is redundant or completely useless.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

@@bakerboat4572 No. Fascism (and of course National-Socialism) are really corporatism, which means fusing the state and the capitalist sectors together in order to achieve state goals. I wouldn't call this socialism, because socialism is about social cohesion and equality, while corporatism only cares about what is in the interest of the state.

[@tancreddehauteville764]

@@cryptarisprotocol1872 Not all - you've misunderstood what statism (also known as corporatism) is. Socialism is about aiming for economic stability and equality and if necessary, sacrificing growth in order to maintain social cohesion. Corporatism doesn't give a rat's ass for social cohesion OR economic growth UNLESS they can be exploited for the purpose of furthering state aims and objectives. So, in plain terms, corporatism is a 'third way' that combines elements of capitalism and socialism. As for communism, this differs from socialism in the sense that while socialism can work within a democratic framework, communism cannot, because it refuses to allow any private enterprise from generating profit from any economic activity.

[@death2abrahamism]

-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-thumbs-up Sounds like 1985 was a GREAT year! I came across Karlyn Borysenko's channel recently and those socialist ideologies she expose are truly demented. Both of you keep up the good work!!!

[@noahculver8936]

I am an aspiring intellectual on the path of truths and knowledge and I want to say I enjoy your presentation and delving into the facts and filtering out the mumbo jumbo of today's history. When I was in school I was told that a little bit of socialism is cool...until I started watching your presentations. Thank you, TIK, sir.

[@livingtribunal4110]

TIK debunking 'Marxist/Socialist' historical narratives is like seeing Rafael Nadal crush everyone at Roland Garros: INEVITABLE

[@annaclarafenyo8185]

Not only was Hitler funded by capitalists, TIKIHistory is funded by the same capitalists to hide their complicity.

[@SwfanredLotr]

Un grande Nadal!

[@AffectionateBrain-yf4sq]

I belive I heard a Carroll Quigley interview where he stated "The Trans Atlantic Power Block" gave money to A.H. Who knows?....

[@buoazej]

Antony C Sutton knows. Wall Street trilogy.

[@billcrowell5096]

Outstanding video. I studied The Third Reich in university history classes. Shirer's book was the primary text to which we referenced. It always unsettled me how supposed capitalists would fund the NSDAP. Now, 40 years later, I learn that I was misled.

[@bhhbcc4573]

I wish we could find someone so thorough and well spoken as yourself to methodically deconstruct and combat the new wave of antisemitism sweeping the west.

[@Christian41]

The sad truth is that most people experience great discomfort when their core beliefs are challenged.

[@juliancate7089]

I've been there. It is extremely unsettling. But unlike the Lefties, I changed by core beliefs to fit the facts, because once I understood that what I had believed prior was a lie, it wasn't so hard to let it go. I think the reason that so many on the Left cannot abandon their beliefs even when confronted with persuasive evidence, is that being sanctimonious and self-righteous (two traits manifested by Hitler, btw) are part and parcel of being a Leftist. Leftists see themselves as morally superior and entitled to power as a result. If that's how you see yourself, then accepting a set of facts as true that would falsify that self-conception is nigh impossible. How many Leftists do you know who could admit that they are intellectually and morally bankrupt?