The Tragedy of Kill the Justice League

Hey! It’s HiTop Films here, Ol’ Uncle HiTop, here today to talk about The Tragedy of Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League, or rather, simply, The Tragedy of Kill The Justice League. I’m still unsure on the title of this HiTop Films Video Essay, Kill The Justice League Rant, Kill the Justice League Review.
Sorry this took so long, but hopefully it’s worth the wait. I love the Arkham Franchise, I’ve made some of my favorite HiTop Films Arkham Videos on just how much I love what Rocksteady has done with Batman. I even adore most of Arkham Knight, but this was such a massive disappointment. One could say that it broke me.
I’m just typing out keywords to try and get KZbin on my side. Is this a HiTop Films Batman Video Essay, yes? In a sense.
In all seriousness, It’s been too long since I uploaded. I’m sorry. I’ve been dealing with a ton of personal struggles, as well as trying to get our Feature Length Jason Todd film out to you all! Thank you for the love and support and enjoy this massive video. More to come.
I miss you, Kevin.
Thank you to THAT ONE DOESN’T COUNT for editing this video!
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Music:
Angel Salazar - AI
Angel Salazar - 1986
Theatre of Delays - Crystal Gaze
Tilman Sillescu - Into The Transcendence
The Bottlesnakes - Bottlesnake Blues
Theatre of Delays - Swim
Theatre of Delays - Monochrome
Theatre of Delays - Kaleidoscope
Theatre of Delays - Spacing Out
Piotr Hummel - Heroes
Chapters:
Hey - 0:00
Kevin - 2:58
Not an Arkham Game - 3:51
What The F is a Suicide Squad Game? - 5:14
Shoots Itself - 7:57
(An Unfinished) Mean Story - 12:32
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? - 20:10

[@HiTopFilms]

Much love to you all! I miss you! Let me know what you think and always keep creating. ❤

[@hughesbrownstudios4728]

I’d just be happy if you took a break on videos for a while to fire all cylinders on Jason, and whatever other films or shorts you have in between, cause that’s your best work.

[@Robin_Is]

23t

[@aaron_osborne]

Kill the Justice League is a lesson of keeping low expectations. It is sad how the official release turned out.

[@user-ts1zy1lk5k]

How is Jason? I wanna know bc the film looks so good and I'm very excited. Don't make it spiderman lotus😂

[@darklightingtali4159]

You should play LEGO DC super villians just to cleanse yourself fron this filth lol. But seriously that game is better for DC fans than this nonsense

[@jacobp249]

You gotta give props to how creatively they actually kill the Justice League. Batman was shot with a gun. Flash was taken out with a gun. Green Lantern died from a bullet wound from a gun. And Superman was shot with a gun.

[@inshal6420]

Just like how creative Arkham was. You take out Bane with a punch, Joker with a punch, Mr. Freeze with a punch, Deathstroke with a punch. And Arkham Knight was punched.

[@ryuzakijeager9520]

​@inshal6420 Technically, Batman used strategies to take those villains down. Except for Deathstroke in Arkham Knight and Joker, too, I think.

[@trevorphilips9065]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@inshal6420Bane was taken out by the Batmobile Joker was taken out by an explosion to the face Mr Freeze got taken out by Batman’s gadgets and strategies Death stroke was taken out in a full on brawl Arkham Knight and Batman didn’t at all have a fist fight so no kiddo he was beaten by persuasion Maybe try using your tiny head again

[@inshal6420]

@@trevorphilips9065 Flash was taken out by a speed-force decouplers, Superman with golden kryptonite, Batman with Harley’s fear gas, Green Lanturn with yellow lanterns. Maybe try using your tiny head again.

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@inshal6420 Let me correct you kiddo They were all shot Nothing is different kiddo try and use your tiny brain next time

[@mclekfkeiwdisidido6858]

You know the plot would have been a great teen titans game, having these young heroes having to fight their mentors is much more heartfelt then a bunch of ex cons

[@jadenbryant9283]

And also having to make some hard choices in order to save the world

[@webbedshadow2601]

Yes man

[@MannequinMonarch]

Or just a Wonder Woman game playing as her taking on the League. Either or could work really, I’d enjoy either a thousand times better than this regardless, as it would be way more emotionally charged either way

[@antii-3669]

Sets up for an Easy Reference with the Teen Titans vs the Justice League too, smh

[@tyger2244]

Teen Titans: Save the Justice League

[@Jack-sy8mr]

When LEGO Batman 3 and LEGO DC Super Villains execute the same plot but better😂

[@CLOUD_STRIFE2003]

Exactly

[@leviticusprime4904]

When a kids game has a better story and humor than a “adult” game

[@stanco1273]

The Lego games have effort put into them

[@chuenjinyang4513]

​@@leviticusprime4904 even the jokes in the lego games were funnier

[@ricniks4619]

It's not just this game people also like making fun of how the Lego Batman games have better characterization, writing and consistency than the entire DCEU/Snyderverse combined.

[@angrysonicbird6779]

Fun fact, none of the devs for Suiside Squad actually worked on any Arkham title, as most of Rocksteady's talent left a long time ago. Explains a lot, doesn't it?

[@TevyaSmolka]

That’s true

[@petrenicolae3282]

Sefton Hill the co-funder of the Studio wrote the story for this game and left after the game was mostly done

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@petrenicolae3282 which that sounds super suspicious.

[@petrenicolae3282]

@@TevyaSmolka How so?In one video where he talked about the game he was very excited about it,so that means that he liked what he created.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@petrenicolae3282 i mean why did he leave the project after it was finished.

[@JCT45]

"I never grew out of the Arkam Franchise, I grew with it... and it greaw with me." bravo

[@AlexLove631]

This killed me. That entire final section of the video is perfection, with writing that tugs at the heart strings. Alex and I lived an almost identical life apparently cause I was that same kid, doing the same things, beat for beat. Even if I didn’t like some of the execution of Arkham Knight, those games have such a special place in my heart.

[@echotheworld8686]

Ah yes..... *greaw

[@Dobbythecat123]

How’d you write this comment a day ago when this video came out 3 hours ago

[@JCT45]

@@Dobbythecat123 consider donating to the paetreon

[@judebavaro1112]

I got mf tears in my eyes bro

[@69Kazeshini]

I hate the superman audiolog where he convinces the entire league to enter brainiacs ship. Superman is a good guy but not an idiot and i feel like modern writers are trying to turn Superman into a himbo.

[@Bojoschannel]

Isn't he supposed to be a super genius capable of processing information no human ever could even imagine? Can't he even see atoms and shit?

[@marxvargas7697]

​@@Bojoschannel he has to be dumb so that there's a point to having Batman in the league.

[@buttpiratesbuttpirate5913]

One of the only other mortal characters who match Superman's intellect is Lex Luthor, but in terms of processing power and speed, he's only outdone by Flash. So, yeah, Supes would basically NEVER pull a stunt like that​@@Bojoschannel

[@fr0stdr4ke95]

​@@Bojoschannel If it wasn't for the fact that Batman and Lex were in the same universe, Flash or Superman would definitely be in the category of smartest people.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

​@@Bojoschannel Yes, it's often a common thing in the comics where Superman will confide in Flash about something that's troubling him because Flash is the only one capable of thinking as fast, if not faster than him. Batman and Lex are smart because of their inventions, and deductive abilities. Superman and Flash, are smart because they can think of 1000 different possible scenarios, with each variable given to them before a blink of an eye.

[@bensneb360]

I will say Kevin Conroy does a really fun "Evil Batman" preformance

[@MortalWombat047]

He did and that's why until someone fills the shoes he will be and forever be my "Batman"

[@ftrwrwbg]

Yeah I hate that people say this game shit on his legacy or whatever. The game sucks ass don’t get me wrong here, but obviously they never could’ve predicted we’d lose Kevin. This isn’t the first time he has played an evil Batman and he has said he thinks it’s really fun too. Kevin read the script and knew what he was getting into. Nobody could know it would be his final performance as Batman it was just another in hopefully many gigs to come.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@ftrwrwbgindeed and you are right about that

[@Jose-se9pu]

I think he was having a lot of fun with some of the lines, however, I dont think he would've been ok with this being his LAST performance, especially as Arkham Batman, which is one of the most beloved iterations of the character.

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@Jose-se9pu I can also see that being the case sadly

[@IndianaKong95]

23:16 Holy Fuck, that was YOU! DUDE!! I remember finding that video and was so obsessed with figuring out how Joker could still be alive. Good times man....

[@Tohru139]

I was thinkin the exact same thing hahaha

[@DamningTooth1]

Not my original idea, but I do think the idea of “Wonder Woman Saves the Justice League” would’ve been much better than a Suicide Squad game.

[@concept5631]

Would've been a nice change of pace having Diana save the league as opposed to Batman doing it for the 89th time.

[@doodleBurgers]

I thought it could've also been cool to have Batman trying to save the justice league while stopping the SS from killing them

[@milkiassamuel780]

This game honestly could've been it's own unique thing, had it not been part of the Arkhamverse. Wish they gave us a Batman Beyond, Superman or even just a Justice League game instead.

[@nemesisprime4501]

Facts. I don't know what rocksteady is expecting from suicide squad. They think the jokes are funny, and they think players will like it just because it's supposedly the "arkahmverse"

[@petrenicolae3282]

​@@nemesisprime4501Most of the jokes are funny

[@user-ft6vu4gk2p]

They must-have been high while making this game

[@kendi5391]

@@user-ft6vu4gk2p Honestly if story from the start wasn't killing the Leage but sneaking up to a country and assasinating a poltitical figure for example I don't see why that couldn't be a part of Arhkamverse. But what we got? Definetly not.

[@user-ft6vu4gk2p]

@@kendi5391 Like the movie The Suicide Squad

[@dynaguy3]

The Arkham audio logs added to the characters’ history and worldbuilding, but were never full of vital information that was necessary to the story. They were cool Easter eggs and fun to hear, but the main story felt complete without them.

[@jackdandy3579]

the reason why brainiac brainwashed them was one of the most stupidest thing that i've ever read, superman is not that dumb to blindly trust a stranger alien who just landed on earth

[@dynaguy3]

@@jackdandy3579 yeah people who only understand Superman on a superficial level wrote that. He’s supposed to be very smart and doesn’t make dumb strategic decisions just to be nice to strangers

[@jadenbryant9283]

​​@@dynaguy3like Superman can be kinda naieve but naivety is not stupidity and i feel like he would atleast feel sketched out by brainiac and have the rest of the league stay while one of them goes

[@thatvillainjay]

My man sounds like he's about to cry through this whole video

[@HiTopFilms]

Always.

[@thatvillainjay]

@HiTopFilms hey! Its a good thing though...the dedication comes through. As a life long superman fan, I'm super tired of the Evil superman trope, I feel you bro

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

You'd be crying too if you spent $100 for a game that died faster than The Avengers and Anthem.

[@unkirbyjosuke1904]

Man, you're my favorite pretentious film youtuber. You just make it fun.

[@HishamA.N_Comicbroe]

Agreed!

[@davidgeldner2167]

DUDE, that was my favorite backhanded compliment. You made it fun.

[@slp1857]

As weird as it sounds if you were to make a Suicide Squad game you shouldn't try making a looter shooter, you should try making Fire Emblem

[@NoahToledo-xo5pj]

because of the perma death?

[@ozandsaffron770]

wait that's really clever

[@slp1857]

@@NoahToledo-xo5pj Yeah, FE games will also have one or more "essential" units that you need to keep alive to tell the complete story and you can have those be Harley, Deadshot etc. while having more "killable" characters join as you progress like Polka-dot Man, Peacemaker etc.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Actually that’s not a bad idea and I would’ve been fine with that.

[@minilopgamer1950]

Why wasn’t permadeath a selling point of the game? Like the squad here has so much plot armor it became beyond dumb

[@masicoler]

I worked on this game for some time, I came along when the project was already started and stayed there for a couple of years, if only you knew... this video made me tear up as you have achieved other times but this one was different, this stung, I wish the game could have been what much of the team really wanted and hoped for but sadly most of us are bottom of the barrel when it comes to decission making, money and suits always ruin shit. Thank you and I truly hope you can acomplish with Jason what you hoped to find in this money hungry dumpster of a game.

[@jackdandy3579]

what was the original vision for the game?

[@mihcim5323]

Reddit user

[@Dailvin]

Maybe this is why insomniac decided to cancel the multiplayer spider-man game. If they thought this would be the the fate of that game then I’m fine without it

[@batmanbeyond5766]

why did Rocksteady make a looter shooter, are they stupid? c'mon, someone had to do it

[@AdamSoucyDrums]

I’m proud of you, Dick

[@afton5773]

As in Jonkle'

[@DamningTooth1]

Is there a lore reason why they made a looter shooter game?

[@ConnorLonergan]

Because the Executives at WB (who own Rocksteady.) told them to

[@syedshaheermohammad6918]

why is he stupid ​@@ConnorLonergan

[@IzayaLee1725]

That last half of the video was extremely relatable talking about how you found out about Arkham Asylum through a magazine, while your dad got smokes and it brought up some memories. It made tear up, man. Keep doing what you're doing, Alex ❤

[@kraazexjoker1874]

Could have easily made a JL game; Give Harley's grapnel to Batman, Deadshot's flight to Superman, Shark's jumps to WW, Boomer's speed to Flash and shift the story to "The league defends Metropolis against an invading Brainiac and his gallery of assorted Rogues he's collected from other worlds." Character moments could easily stem from those villains, and they can explore each member's personality and interactions as a newer formed team, battle-hardening them into a Justice League that can kick ass in a sequel. Immediately a better-sounding concept than "haha Squad kills superman". What a joke.

[@jadenbryant9283]

Yeah and have some of the villains be versions of villains from some DCs famous elseworlds like Superman red son, Justice league the nail, batman gotham by gaslight , dc bombshells etc etc etc with the dlcs grabbing the heroes from that world to stop them

[@leviticusprime4904]

@@jadenbryant9283you forget this game want made for fun it was made to bleed the players money dry.

[@gokux75]

Making a game called "Suicide Squad Kill the Crime Syndicate" would have also worked and probably would have turned out better since you can do all the disrespectful deaths and less build up since it would be villains killing villains.

[@jadenbryant9283]

@@leviticusprime4904 so it can still be good and be fun bro

[@rafa1355]

"i get it bruce you just don't want me hanging around stealing the limelights"

[@ryanpollard1166]

As a die-hard Rocksteady fan who has absolutely adored and treasured the Batman Arkham series growing up (I even love Arkham Knight in spite of its flaws), this game truly broke my heart. Despite it being an online-only live-service title, I hoped that they would find some way of surprising me and recaptured the spirit and essence of the Arkham games and they just didn't. Maybe the Batman Arkham games are so damn good, not even the studio who made them know how to do it again.

[@bruhmoment1761]

We should stop believing in studios, and start believing in individual artists. I know it’s easier to remember just studios and brands, but we gotta be honest, it’s the effort of individual artists who actually make stuff good.

[@Rez_U_Rekt]

You gotta understand. The studio are the people who make the game. The people who made the Arkham games are no longer there

[@brickgames5631]

The thing that sucked the most for me was when I killed Superman I had no emotional connection to it it was like “oh yeah that was me killing Superman he’s dead now I guess” there was no build up he didn’t feel like a threat at all and the fact a Superman fight had me feeling like that is so bad it’s impressive

[@AlexLove631]

What an absolutely insane decision from a studio. What a waste. Don’t think I’ve ever seen anything quite like it honestly. The absolute downfall of Rocksteady, and DC games in general, needs to be studied. Nearly a decade after Arkham Knight, and a monumental run for superhero games, Rocksteady returns with this??? How we didn’t get a Batman Beyond game with Will Friedle and Kevin Conroy set in the Arkhamverse is baffling. Could’ve been another trilogy, and a massive financial win for the studio and WB. Same goes for a Superman game.

[@jadenbryant9283]

Hell a justice league game also would have been a better idea and might have actually worked better with the live service aspect

[@AlexLove631]

@@jadenbryant9283 thing is, this game could’ve TOTALLY worked. It’s a cool idea and an interesting way to explore this universe for sure. Not the route I would’ve gone, but it could’ve totally worked. I feel like early on in development it was a great game, but WB’d decision to make it a live service ended up really tanking it. I think this game had lots of behind the scenes trouble. It’s a shame. Horrible execution.

[@jadenbryant9283]

​@@AlexLove631yeah there's a good chance this game could have worked[not having it take place in the arkhamverse would be a step in the right direction] but they just fucking botched and I completely understand why people thought this would originally be a superman game

[@user-ft6vu4gk2p]

This game would've been perfect if we the players get to play with the justice league not these low c class dc characters 😂😂😂

[@callmejacob3234]

Blame Warner Brothers they are killing DC with their awful decisions.

[@bostonpride1717]

Harley a lowlife murderer dressing down Bruce before shooting him, Wonder Woman being the only character to receive respect in her death even though the Flash saved the SS twice, and the gross Games as a Service model. Rocksteady is gone, and wee should never support them again. Hope they go under after something like this.

[@terryrocks2j]

I saw that feminist BS too. They couldn't do anything to the female and instead is given respect throughout the game. There's even feminist speeches in the bios too. If they had the balls, which they don't, they would had killed the entire Justice League with no discrimination of any sort.

[@bostonpride1717]

@@terryrocks2j Especially with Sweet Baby Inc's involvement you knew exactly what this would be

[@theleonpasta7336]

To be fair to Rocksteady, i doubt it was their choice to make a game like this considering everything they've given us in the past, theres no doubt in my mind that some executive that only cares about numbers and not about providing an experience fans will enjoy told them it was either make a game like this or nothing for who knows how long. Not to say they cant be critised for what they gave us, but i feel we should understand that they were probably forced to include the "Games as a Service" model regardless of what they made, though i guess we'll never know forsure until like a decade from now when current Rocksteady employees speak about their experience years after the fact like what usually happens

[@bostonpride1717]

@@theleonpasta7336 People have agency, they shouldn't get a pass for this while working with Sweet Baby Inc and creating a terrible game.

[@jordanwhite352]

​@@terryrocks2joh God! Not only is a gamergate part 2 electric boogaloo is here with this bullshit but that every single death was bad in this including Wonder Woman's death. It's nothing to do with any form of feminism or whatever and has to do when bad writing because executives made a studio make a thing they didn't want and that wasn't a feminist game but going from single player greatness to a live service. Be like forcing insomniac to make a punisher shooter live service game that they didn't want to make because they want to keep making good Spider-Man games.

[@HishamA.N_Comicbroe]

I really wish this game was set in its own universe, with its own take on the characters. By being set in the Arkhamverse it can't even live up to its title.

[@Sterlingl3591]

Imo this game isn’t canon. My 3 gripes with the game is the utter disrespect of Batman, The JL, and Harley sexually assaulting Deadshot. If the roles were reversed, the entire internet would call for their heads on a spike. Yet, since it’s a woman doing it, nobody bats an eye.

[@bruhmoment1761]

Bro the ending 5 minutes had me grinning and crying at the same time. You’re a phenomenal storyteller and you should be proud and happy

[@quietspark8703]

"Looter shooter" Me: used the black mask set the entire game because it was so op

[@HiTopFilms]

yes

[@Batman88878]

The fact that Alex was in high school when Arkham Knight came out makes me feel old... And I don't think I'll ever play this game. It seems like a missed opportunity. I'd like to see Alex make a video about his thoughts on a potential Superman game. See his passion come through.

[@benjaminaltube8731]

You can tell there's resentment behind a script when they literally piss over flash's corpse but have an emotional and sad moment filled with pathos when WW dies And don't get me started on the character entries lol My feeling is that Rocksteady is either a new gen of devs. Like the ones that made the og Arkhamverse went on to other projects and we got fresher pairs of hands on the wheel now. Or that the Arkham trilogy was so pivotal to Rocksteady identity that they grew to resent it. Like they couldn't escape the batman's shadow. That and a not insignificant part of WBgames pulling the strings to make a live service game. The original trilogy will always be there. But now I everytime I remember it's moments I'm reminded of what would come later.

[@nemesisprime4501]

Suicide squad kill the justice league was basically like crushing your childhood dream with the arkham games right in front of you. And worse, they play it as a joke

[@Abbey-ft5ql]

I hope you taking care of yourself king

[@jorgegfigueroa9755]

Imagine this, ACTUALLY imagine this: - Open world Flash game where it's so much fun running around - Open world Superman game flying in a beautiful environment with hopeful themes -Green Lantern with adventures and lore so creative and adventurous - Forever People traveling everywhere and are as charismatic as the Guardians of the Galaxy - Wonder Woman being an ambassador of love with epic combat gameplay - Zatanna and Constantine in a mature game incorporating magic - Batman Beyond, where we could've seen Bruce Wayne after Arkham Knight and eventually train Terry McGinnis for a futuristic Gotham So much isn't being brought to life. The Suicide Squad are interesting as a concept and compliment DC's lore but shouldn't overtake so much potential

[@LoganBradbury-yt1lj]

5:49 Waltduh

[@user-ft6vu4gk2p]

Wut are you doin Waltduh

[@afton5773]

Kid named Commisioner

[@thatcyanblur]

The story behind this game in a couple of years is gonna be nuts, like how in the world did everything happen the way it did

[@BrendanJSmith]

We're gonna look back on this game the same way we look back on Resident Evil 6, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Final Fantasy XIII, Fallout 76, Sonic Boom, and Metal Gear Survive.

[@theketaminekid1241]

@BrendanJSmith At least Fallout 76 eventually became good.

[@goatbrook9065]

I just wish we got a batman beyond arkham style game. I woulda gave every penny for that😮‍💨

[@angeloacevedo5494]

15:34 LEGO Batman 3 video when?!?!?

[@jokerYG]

Man do ì love your videos...thank you for expressing how we all feel. I legit was depressed and bummed out when I saw how this game played. My son and I had plans of playing this together. We both were disappointed. Great video bro! Awesome job!

[@DDRWakaLaka]

king shark is so handsome

[@rittis013]

I hate the game but I love King Shark because he voiced by SAMOA JOE!!!!

[@SenseiSeagal420]

I knew once a random character like Harley Quinn got a solo film that some garbage like this would get greenlit, but it's a real shame that her popularity had to destroy the guys that created the Arkham games.

[@Infinityflow0]

Thank you for making this video. It helped my organize my own thoughts about this game. I did not fully understand why I felt the way I felt and there was just a swirl of anger, frustration, and sadness. Ultimately, I'm left with heartbreak. You are absolutely correct that this should not be taken as disrespect to Kevin Conroy in light of his unfortunate passing, because they definitely didn't intend it. However, it was absolutely an affront to the batman we grew with and loved. Worse, it felt like we, the fans, were mocked for loving him, growing with him, and fighting with him, because we felt like we were him. We all had become the batman. That love was treated with apathy and indifference. It felt like all that strife and struggle that we went through, and all that we overcame meant nothing to the ones who should have valued that the most.

[@xdi1733]

Bro I love this channel you are one of my favorite content creators. I can understand the passion you have for Batman as I have the same amount of passion play all the Arkham games and loving every single one of them please make more content like this it is the best Batman content in all of KZbin there isn't many good Creator channels like this one and this one has got to be the best you are very talented brother keep it up this is the best KZbin video I have watched in months

[@timpage9424]

I appreciate the optimism, because the moment I saw that gameplay reveal trailer I was done. 😂

[@rajamohanareddygayam5309]

Hopefully Insomniac will never become like this

[@FriendlyNeighborhoodSM1048]

I just want to say how perfectly you organized your wording to fit my EXACT perspective on this game. I like how you incorporated the fact that people who mindlessly rage tweet, "this game is the worst thing the entire planet has undergone the presence of 😡😡😡" is outrageous. But also acknowledge the fact that this game isn't good and abundantly has many issues. But you also talk about how the core reason everybody is really so passionate about this game is because we all knew it had the potential to be legendary. Well done.

[@VasudevAnandcva]

I've been waiting for this one since you mentioned it in your livestream! Take care and good luck working on your Jason Todd film!

[@andrescarnederes2295]

Beautiful video! That speech at the end really impacted me!

[@ItzClobert]

You explaining growing up with a franchise and first playthroughs/obsessing over every detail in a trailer or promo piece nearly brought me to tears. I was instantly brought back to 06 being a huge Halo fan and the trailer of Halo 3 dropping and watching it 200 times trying to pull anything I can find then going to message boards to talk about it. It's crazy how this is a shared experience amongst gamers.

[@chrisdavies6129]

Leave it to Alex to perfectly summarize the heart of a topic and what we love about it - as well as leave me in tears. Well done as always, sir!

[@shashankupadhyay4185]

You have no idea for how many days I kept refreshing my feed just wishing to see a new video of yours. An update yesterday and now here you are! I had a blast listening to your thoughts on this game this morning, while washing my car simultaneously! That is how I like it. Much love!

[@patrickwillis13]

They could've did a ultimate alliance style game with the squad and that would've felt more like a suicide squad game than this game.

[@XPGaming3]

Wow. I just had to leave a comment and say that the way you ended this video really got to me. Hearing you talk about how these characters and the Arkham verse meant so much to you really got me emotional. I really don't know how Rocksteady is going to recover from this, I have lost faith in them as a studio and 204 current Steam players says it all.

[@twoface4458]

5:11 of course Rocksteady made a Suicide Squad game. It was 2016. Suicide Squad was what DC thought would be their future.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

To think DCEU caused this and Harley to change.

[@ValentinoMarino11]

Crazy how they’re like 5 years late to both Suicide Squad AND Live Service.

[@YSL8704]

I think the "White deadshot was just an imposter" is stupid, because it means that the imposter Deashot was operating for longer than the actual Deashot was, it makes no sense at all!

[@emptycan666]

Always makes my day when a new hi top vid pops in the feed 😁

[@yungcees3317]

Playing this game as an arkham fan I thought of you and your Batman does not kill video. Can’t wait to watch this one Alex😭😭

[@hannahs.7297]

literally every single video you put out makes me tear up. i was never into superheroes as a kid, (they, oddly, kinda terrified me,) but i can SO relate to the idea of something you've grown up with petering out into a sludge of nothingness thanks to corporate greed. keep up the good work!

[@Jam-og1km]

I found watching this weirdly hypnotic, just seeing someone talk with such love and passion about something they loved growing up and all the hits and many more misses from something they wished they loved and that could have been great

[@giovi1122]

Your love and passion for these characters and worlds always reignite my own. Thank you.

[@SladeChristian333]

A little take here, I’m pretty sure rebranding the game as Suicide Squad *V.S.* the Justice League and the concept and story changed to where say… the JL have the opportunity to prevail as the heroes they were once free of Brainiac’s mind control and fighting alongside the Squad. Because that this is the Arkhamverse, it would’ve cleared up a good deal of the backlash and unpopularity this game receives today while also giving Kevin a proper farewell. They did THAT well for sure.

[@dmv99]

this game is not an Arkham game.. but THAT IS THE FUCKING PROBLEM. When you tell a group of fans who have a passion for this game that it is part of the universe they want, but not the game they want then kill the characters they loved... what else did you expect? they should have NOT have hyped it as they did. They should have made this game after a few more arkham titles. you can't release an ending to a loved franchise with all of these possibilities of tories OR the open plot points they did.

[@azuredragoon1140]

This video got me back to when I was just a kid trying to play arkham asylum for the first time and then years later going through an entire weekend playing arkham city with my friend. Thanks for reminding me of those simpler days, Alex. I hope you're doing well too :)

[@Cgh33]

My neck hurt from sitting at target playing that demo over and over for 2 hours. Ten year old me fully believes ill never have a game, a series, an experience, hell a part of my life like the arkham series

[@RawbeeVee]

I have been waiting for this video since the game came out. Huge props and hope the Jason work is going good

[@lucariosom1267]

Thats the fairest and purest review about this game i have ever seen. I feel you and thanks for this love letter of a video.

[@JP-1990]

It should've been against the Justice Lords from the get go. Maybe play like Overwatch. That way, they could do a canon multiverse story, add more characters all without being mean spirited towards the heroes.

[@thatmovienitpicker8070]

Lego Batman 3 is goated

[@featherguardian6023]

At First I was skeptical that the Justice League would be killed by the Suicide Squad but I thought WB mislead us and that they would Unbrainwashed later, but then when they Announced that this will be connected to the Arkham Series I was one of the few people who saw the Red Flags, then Kevin Conroy passed away and this would have been one of the Last Roles( with Crisis Part 3 seemingly being his Final Role), and don’t get me started on the multiple Delays for 3 Goddamn Years, the Shooting Mechanic, and the Live Server B$, I knew that this would be not just a Bad Game, but a Insult to DC and Arkham Fans that would have loved to see Rocksteady make either a Superman, Batman Beyond, or Justice League Game but now it’s clear that the Original People behind the Arkham Games have left and are given the Keys to New People that don’t understand what they’re doing that would lead this Once Great Company into Bankruptcy in the Most Distasteful and Distasteful Way Possible, Nobody in their Right Minds would want a Game that you killed off Some of your Favorite Heroes in Cold Blood, the Live Server Shooter Angle is a Terrible Game for a DC Game, the Only Good Character is King Shark, I like Deadshot but his Anger with Green Lantern is Doom, this is the Wrost Harley Quinn played by Tara Strong I didn’t like, Captain Boomerang is the Worst Character in the Game, Lex is more Enjoyable than Waller, the Graphics are a Major Downgrade to the Arkham Games especially when Knight was pure Perfection even if the Game is Overrated, the Side Characters are Boring, and is just Depressing and Not in a Good or Enjoyable Way when you Play or Watch, all I can Say is that MK1 and Spider-Man 2 are far better than this Abomination that I wish was Cancelled completely, Rocksteady, WB, Sweet Baby Inc., and DC should be ashamed making this Abomination.

[@Dallas-ng7nq]

Been waiting for this one🙏🏿

[@Dylanisa_BasketCase]

Same

[@jgee6243]

Wonderful video. When you began to describe what you experienced, as a child, getting the first Arkham game I started to cry. I have had moments like these too and it was so refreshing to see another soul experiencing this too. Thank you for sharing!

[@HritikIyer]

Whoa you made the 'Joker is still alive video'... I remember watching the video with my best friend when were both 14 years old and theorising what happens next even before Arkham Origins was announced, let alone Knight. All these years later I stumbled upon your new channel's ever since 'Spider-Man PS4 is a Perfect SPIDER-MAN Movie'. Love the content you create, HiTop Films!

[@poppy_fl00wer90]

was hoping you’d do a video on it 🙏🙏

[@Dylanisa_BasketCase]

Same

[@anthonyj7470]

I loved this video ! Thank you for saying what's on my heart since the launch of this game.

[@OmegaBlackHeart]

Great video!! Very sentimental at the end, got me in the feelings 👏🏼👏🏼

[@CracksterJack]

That ending was so beautifully poignant. I felt myself attaching to each and every word you spoke, whether through that beautifully nostalgic lens, or through the more existential prose you utilized. You perfectly captured my own passion for Batman as a character, and Arkham as a franchise. To be the Batman was to truly be Batman - to no longer have to embody all those struggles of daily life, and to instead save the world, even if just in a video game. Thank you for that. It is truly wonderful to have heard somebody else share such a deep connection.

[@davidgeldner2167]

The bit about destroying its own momentum makes sense. But tbh man, it’s undercut by all the hyperbolic diction and hyper-dramatic tone.

[@ethinwhite3454]

Hey Alex , how are YOU doing? I hope you're doing well.

[@JoshuaHenelyThornhill]

Glad to see you back brother ✌🏾🖤 And with a banger too !!!

[@patrickblanchette4337]

Thank you for this thoughtful critique👍🏻.

[@therealtt]

Yesss been waiting for this one. Much love to you HiTop❤️

[@HiTopFilms]

And to you!

[@centurion2812]

the endgame tribute to Kevin Conroy is great, but they should have done something similar for Arleen Sorkin as well

[@S.77312]

Bro, your part about growing up with Arkham hit me so hard in my heart, wtf. I, like a lot of other people, grew up with this franchise. I probably won't play Suicide Squad, but at least with the switch re-release of the Arkham Trilogy, I'm passing on that love of the franchise to my little brother. Excellent video as always, keep up the good work.

[@alextorres8635]

Great work on this video as always.

[@TheHaigisawsome]

I wasn’t even a fan of Arkham Knight’s story, so my expectations were low with Kill The Justice League’s story and I was still let down.

[@shadowbyname2802]

There’s nothing tragic about the game except how tragic it was that DC and Warner allowed it to happen. God awful dialogue/banter with the characters, disrespect of the DC property and characters (least of all the Arkham-verse), and what has to be one of the most disrespectful deaths in superhero history with Arkham Batman… And then they had the nerve to thank Kevin Conroy after for everything he had done. I stand by what I said and after seeing this game hovering at around 300 players right now… they would’ve been better off just shelving this game and calling it a tax break. It would’ve been far more respectful to everyone involved.

[@bruhmoment1761]

No offence, but you’re exactly the other end of the problem. Watch this videos first 5 minutes again. Nobody intends to make a bad game. Nobody can Disrespect fictional characters. Kevin probebalt wanted to play an evil Batman cause he’s an actor and actors like doing and portraying different things. Making art is incredibly hard and it’s a shame that this one turned out bad. But wishing it to be deleted into “tax breaks” just shows how much you’ve been brainwashed by angry online alt right spaces.

[@shadowbyname2802]

@@bruhmoment1761 You can't say "no offense bro" then a few lines later say I've been brain washed, most of all by "alt-right spaces". There's so much wrong with your reply after that, but in order for me to even begin taking any of it seriously, do me and everyone else a favor. Don't bring politics into the situation, especially for a failed game that began and ended its life as nothing more than a product.

[@carlgiesler3672]

Im gonna be honest, im not really invested in the DCEU nor the comics, nor the games. Heck i didnt even know this game existed until now, but the hitpo got a way with words which always makes me long for something, his descriptions are always so on point, so nostalgia creating that i can almost feel the moments he is referring to, feel the joy he feels when talking about this stuff. this is what really makes me come back to his channel

[@jackbot43]

HiTop films is my Arkham franchise, and I’ll always be here for it. Amazing video, as always

[@albertocarlosjunior]

The best Suicide Squad game is Mass Effect 2.

[@HiTopFilms]

Never thought of it like that, but that’s a great take.

[@Kostas_in_space]

I don't understand why the bickering? It's a stupid premise from the beginning, you should have known better

[@failureoncommand]

Beautiful as always, man.

[@joehunter7936]

This is the review I been waiting for!!!

[@SteveKilgore27]

I mean, I saw this coming miles away. The rocksteady that made Asylum and city is not the same as this one. Heck, you’re talking about repetitive gameplay in suicide squad as if 60% of Arkham Knight wasn’t tank drone battles. Knight looked beautiful and had some cool mechanics, but the gameplay was repetitive and the story was easily the worst of the 4 Arkham games. Like, wow… the Arkham knight is Jason Todd-who coulda seen that coming besides everyone who has ever heard of the character Jason Todd. Rocksteady started phoning it in back in 2015, it’s just that now they finally gave in to complete apathy.

[@medalgear654]

Really getting tired of Harley Quinn being an anti-hero without suffering the consequences of her actions for the Joker. Its even more disgusting that this game tried to make it as if hse has the moral high ground over Batman

[@vCuda]

I know it's insignificant, but I love the 21:9 format you use. It makes for a very cinematic experience on ultrawide monitors lol

[@AvalonEndures]

This video was very well done and perfectly articulates the logical reasons for the games failure as well as the more ambiguous emotional reasons why the game failed. And quite honestly the way that you were able to clearly state the significance of the emotional connection to these characters is probably the best I've seen someone explain why we are all so upset. Fantastic job!

[@ValyrianPrince]

This ain’t a criticism. You’re too forgiving this game was malicious and here you are being all Rosey eye d nah F this game and the devs

[@natex47]

I kinda disagree about the fact they decided to kill off Batman, because I think everyone's main criticism is the way they decided to kill off Batman, it's not a good send off for him in my opinion. If Kevin was still alive, I believe everyone would still be against killing off this Batman in this way. That's my take on it.

[@arrogantbandit1]

Well put, well done! Also very balanced and reasonable take. I'm not even as much as an Arkham fan as yourself, but my dissapointment did cloud me a bit when SS:KtJL dropped. The missed potential of what they could have done in 9 years does still hurt a bit. Like you said, a Superman game, Flash and would have loved myself: Arlham Beyond: Son of the Bat

[@checksoverstripes2498]

This video was extremely well narrated and edited. Well done 👏🏼