HK P2000 Review - Brilliant, and Ahead of its Time

[@flatheadfletch]

I’m 61 former LE and competitive shooter. I have owned all “the best” top end hand guns. I’m a believer in KISS ! My P30 was sweet, my sig 226 and 220 were sweet. My Walther P99 was great. Gave them to family members after purchasing the best EDC gun money can buy, a great point shooter. Yes the P2000 with LEM trigger. I WILL bet my life on it !!!! Edc

[@mdubb4855]

You don’t mind the long trigger pull each time? I’m looking at the V3 decocker version so please talk me out of it if you think I should get the LEM instead!

[@mikegurv1818]

Brought one home today, Sir.

[@bradskis81]

​@@mdubb4855Just get the LEM version. Once you understand what it is, and how it's supposed to be operated, it's one of the best trigger systems out there.

[@Korazjian]

@@mdubb4855 i would say if you've never shot with a LEM to get decocker as its very well thought out and designed... I have the v3 with a grayguns kit and the DA breaks so goddang clean and smooth at around 7-7.5lb and SA is around 4lb which IMO is perfect for CCW and HD. More Options with V3... The LEM takes some getting used to, i like them both but over the years always prefer a decocker outta sheer repetition...

[@mdubb4855]

@@Korazjian ended up with the P2000SK DA/SA with decocker. Nice SA but I've gotten so used to striker fired G26. In comparison to the G26 the pull in the SK in DA mode feels pretty short.

[@Outdoors-ty8hp]

The p2000. A more elegant weapon for a more civilized time.

[@thegunpenguin]

That's right. 2005.

[@metal-adventures-joerg]

Thanks for reviewing a german product!!! Greetings from Oberndorf a.N. ,Germany (Town of HK Headquarters and my Hometown)

[@Kilo-Mike]

Thank you for making amazing products in Oberndorf

[@cfcgregd]

I know you reviewed this 3 years ago, but I have owned my P2000sk v3 for 4 years. I have carried it every day, concealed, and go to the range about 2-3 times per month. Doing the math, in four years I have only ONE misfire due to a bad primer and have run about 40,000 rounds through it, to date. I have not had even one problem with with the gun. I clean and lube it every 400 rounds. I have never done a deep cleaning on it but I take my time and use q-tips in hard to reach areas. As always, the mags are the weak point due to spring metal fatigue so I run 4-10 round magazines. I carry 3 mags everyday and rotate them out each month, leaving the 4th mag unloaded for a month in a dry location. So, every 4th month the mag spring “rests”. When cleaning I pay closed attention to the load ramp. I would say, with the 10-12 pound pull on the trigger, it took about a month or more to get accurate on the first shot double action because of the heavy pull. I found that after I mastered that double action pull, I became very accurate with the gun. One drill I do consistently at the range is a 3 shot group as soon as I get to the range to test my stone accuracy. This gun is extremely accurate.. On the range I run 124 grain Winchester. When I carry, it is loaded with 150 grain HSTs,which I rotate every 6 months, using the old rounds at the range. I use the iron sights that came new with the gun, I keep it well lubed including using a Q-tip in the mags well. I was going to replace this. someday, with a VP9, but after the reviews, I do not see where it is better than my p2000sk,. But am willing to have an open mind. I really like a hammer fire pistol with a de cocker and no safety. Replacing it back into the holster with my thumb on the hammer is, for me,the saftest way to do i. Hope this helps someone.t

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences!

[@DPham1]

I too have a P2000SK, my first Pistol. Decided on it after shooting it, the g26 and the M&P Shield. Replaced thr terrible stock mag release with the Hk45C mag release. I am now convinced my P2000SK is perfect. I love shooting the damn thing, holding it, and sometimes just admiring it. Couldn't ask for a better first Pistol

[@flatheadfletch]

I call bs. The first shot is not 12 lbs not even close. Once you chamber a round it’s pre cocked. So you sir are fake !!!

[@leakypfaucet]

great info thanks

[@nerychristian]

HK's are one of the few guns you can buy "sight unseen", take it home and clean and lube it, and not even take it to the range, and yet still trust your life to it. The are so well engineered. I have owned several Hk's and never had a misfire or failure to feed. They are damn near perfectly reliable with any type of ammo.

[@squib3083]

all spot on. the P2000 is the PERFECT 9mm pistol.

[@GrizzlyDonBauer777]

Id take one in 40 s&w a lil more stopping power

[@ranktreeapp5604]

I’ll take a sig over this gun all day.

[@tizben]

@@ranktreeapp5604 cz baby!

[@jasonroberts9357]

@@ranktreeapp5604 How dare you! 😅

[@JacksonWalter735]

The HK P2000, Walther P99, and Beretta PX4 Storm are the most underrated pistols ever in my opinion. I was feeling nostalgic and looked up a few P2000 videos. Got this video in my recommendations and throughly enjoyed it. Keep up the great work!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@nerychristian]

I love the PX4 Storm. I also own the P2000. There is something magical about HK guns.

[@bstevens942]

I have 2 P2000s. It was the first handgun I ever bought. It’s a great reliable gun & I prefer the mag release as opposed to the standard button release.

[@The100percy]

I found a lightly used p2000 357 sig with LEM trigger and night sights for under 400 bucks. It's not a target trigger, but the LEM trigger can be shot surprisingly fast and accurately, and I like having a hammer when re-holstering I can put my thumb on. Easy to carry, and not too heavy, never a malfunction. It's an H&K. Great carry gun.

[@thegunpenguin]

That was a great deal! And the LEM trigger configuration is criminally underrated.

[@jmm4405]

This HK P2000 9 is the very first handgun I bought, and I simply love it! I obtained my CCW and this is what I carry.

[@cthanhna]

My mentor just gifted me this gun... wow so greatful I love HKs very classy guns.

[@thegunpenguin]

You've got a great mentor!

[@jasonroberts9357]

Nice! Is your mentor accepting applications? Asking for a friend....

[@ryanvargas4889]

I love my P2K. One of the handful of cool guns on the California roster that I could get (sadly they just knocked off the USP). Anyways, got mine with the night sights and came with 2 extra mags and out of the box trigger is decent. The quality you would expect from HK.

[@bmaxse]

Which version, V2 or V3? How much was your price (before tax), if you don't mind sharing?

[@Caleb3571999]

I snagged a usp45 before it fell off the roster kinda mad I didn’t get the chance to snag a 40 or a 9 as well it’s a great gun with amazing ergonomics

[@anthonyleyva]

CA dropping the USP, my favorite handgun, before I had a chance to buy one as my first firearm was what pointed my attention to the P2000, a gun I previously and severely underestimated and, honestly, kind have wroteoff; but after reading into it and actually judging it on its merits, the P2000 might've come to replace the USP as my new favorite!

[@LostintheHate]

@@anthonyleyva i got a usp 9 here in cali 2000

[@anthonyleyva]

@@LostintheHate Did you buy it new from a dealer and after 17 March 2022??

[@andysway6011]

one of the most comfortable handguns ever. I did not think I would even have any interest in this back in the day but man I love it

[@seau2007]

Today I picked my new P2000. Love it as well. Thanks for the input.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for watching!

[@MPGunther1]

You gave me the best look at the P-2000

[@4512dude]

“Like that nothing fancy man.” 😂🤣 I lost it.

[@sidanx7887]

Love your reviews - this video pushed me over to getting the 2000 for my next HK

[@plexibreath]

I'm a 1911 guy, but I've been wanting to get a hammer fired DA/SA. I had narrowed it down to Beretta M9A1 and PX4, Sig 226, CZ P-01 and HK P2000. Yesterday I went to the store to see how they felt in my hand and now they dry fired in both DA and SA, and hopefully I could cull it down to one or two. All fell by the wayside except the P2000 and the M9A1. I much preferred the trigger in both DA and SA of the M9A1, but just liked the P2000 more in how I gripped it. So I'm going back and forth between the two, it's a tough call. You shoot both, which do you prefer?

[@rskrilly]

What an awesome pistol. I think when switching to light LEM and swapping for the bigger mag release, this is as perfect a range/carry gun can get. And for $600 it is an absolute steal. I have yet to pick up a newer pistol I like better since owning the P2000.

[@thegunpenguin]

You've got great taste! As I continue buying pistols I don't need, I always come back to this one. It's just so right.

[@southTXthrift]

I found 2 with the LEM trigger today at 1 of my LGS. But damn the prices are getting crazy. They want $929+tax

[@flatheadfletch]

I’m 61 and love great hand guns. Sig 226, hk p30, Glocks, Essex framed 45. Now I only own a P2000 by HK It is the best point shooting most reliable accurate safe edc gun I have ever owned. LEM Trigger is the game changer. This gun I WILL bet my life and yours on !!!!!

[@hatefulhermit673]

The only HK I'm in the market for right now is a P7M13... and maybe a HK45CT... and a P30 or even a VP9... and a VP70 would be fun and a P9 would be interesting, oh and an MP5 of course... Wait, maybe I want all the HK's.

[@thegunpenguin]

I'll just take a whole sack of them, please. Help me carry it to my car.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

I have the USP in 9mm, amazing pistol!

[@CALISUPERSPORT]

who could forget the HK 416. Oh and the $3000 converted G36.

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

Yeah, you got the sickness! Me too. But I’m firmly on Team USPc.

[@thomasmcozart1093]

Interesting that HK used a P2000 style grip for both the HK45C and the MP7.

[@newrunner91]

I have come to like paddle magazine release levers on pistols. They're easy to activate, aren't accidentally pressed with my grip and are naturally ambidextrous.

[@thegunpenguin]

Sorry for the late reply -- KZbin has been opting to not show me a large portion of new comments. I completely agree with your points here. I wish more manufacturers agreed with you. Thanks for watching!

[@joefuentez7232]

The old USP compacts hold a special place in my heart. I wish I had one.

[@rt1326]

just recently picked up a p2000 sk. It's an awesome gem of a sub compact. Great video and even after 5 years, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@chrisf247]

This still seems like the best Glock 19 sized HK hammer-fired gun, maybe the best in that category period. It always seemed like it was underrated to me. I actually prefer the grip/backstrap system to the p30 because it adjusts trigger reach.

[@servicerifle16]

Recently acquired one, it is now my first carry gun. Have it in 9mm with heavy LEM.

[@Korazjian]

So after having a p30 in the past I noticed the obvious differences when I recently got my p2000 haha This is absolutely one of the most under-rated hammer fired out there imo, Ive shot a shitload of hammer fired but after having shot about 1000 rounds thru this pistol with occasional drills Ive settled on it for CCW..... but I agree...this is definitely a hidden gem, gotta own one to appreciate it! I thank you for everything you do man, you're a real underdog in a world of hollywood style reviews lol Keep on keepin on brotha!

[@packpistolarms]

I literally just purchased this last week and I love it. It was between this and the p30 and I'm glad I made the right choice. I have the LEM model. The only thing I added was the flat baseplate and night sights.

[@thegunpenguin]

I'd say you made a great choice! There's a LEM model in my future. Which night sights did you choose? Thanks for watching!

[@packpistolarms]

@@thegunpenguin just the standard ameriglo tru dot. Same as you

[@williammiller5654]

#random between P30 and P2000 there is no wrong choice. #justsaying. I think it's better to just own both. Currently owning a P30L LE.

[@bryceburnett6226]

Just got this for my gun for my 21st birthday. Can’t wait to take it to the range and start putting some rounds through it!!!!!

[@spearhead2182]

I'm SOLD! Great review!! I'm getting a jar and throwing in $100 every payday. :) OOORAH!!!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks, and you'll have a great gun!

[@abc-yx2iq]

Great review. Here in CA it is the only model available by HK. I own more than a few handguns and the p2000 liked from the first time I picket it up. Keep it up, excellent format

[@Charlie-i8r]

I couldn't be happier with my P2000. I would love to try the LEM trigger that is also available with HK's handguns but I'm happy with SA/DA. This gun is very underrated, I've shot probably over 3,000 rounds and I've never had a single problem, not to meantion with some of the cheapiest ammo out there lol. If you have the chance to get a P2000 get one, you won't be disappointed.

[@thegunpenguin]

I wholeheartedly agree on all points! Thanks for watching!

[@remil581]

WHEN YOU BUY AN HK, ANY MODEL, YOU ONLY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY LEFT FOR THE CHEAPEST AMMO.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@remil581 HKs don't seem to mind. They're like little sharks, ready to eat anything.

[@1996Gtalum]

The LEM is suuuwweet in the p2000

[@tbaum101]

Really nice and informative video brother. Thank you for all of the info. Honestly this is one of the more informative gun videos I've seen. I came across one of these today and am going to get it as a result of this video.

[@PJ808H]

The HK USPC 9mm was and still is an awesome handgun and still carry. New to the P2000 and just ordered an SK LEM.

[@adriansoto239]

P2000 is objectively one of the best pistols on the planet. Great shooter, very reliable, durable and accurate. It was sooooo great i bought another. Now i have 2 p2000s

[@thegunpenguin]

You can't go wrong with two!

[@E9X330]

There must be a reason the German police uses them lol

[@noway6633]

I've used a DA/SA P30L and had no problems with the SA trigger pull. Maybe I'm not a well adjusted trigger snob, but the stock SA trigger is nicer to me than most "nice trigger" striker fired handguns I've tested. The DA trigger pull I like far less, as not only does it seem unnecessarily heavy, but there isn't a clear wall or break, so you have to kind of train into it and even then you can accidently fire when you were just trying to hold at the wall.

[@brianhess881]

I have one and love it. It shoots really well and it's accurate. I'm also left handed so it being very friendly to lefties is nice. I have had two friends go buy one after shooting mine because of how well it shoots.

[@tierneyef]

A truly fantastic EDC, it would have been the sub I bought for my wife, and then ultimately carried every day for years, over the many carry options I already had, if all my firearms weren't lost in a boating accident. Everything about the P2000 and is brilliant. But lets not understate what a dog that trigger is, reset in SA is a coast to coast flight, Upgrade to a Grey Guns SRT for $80 and its perfection.

[@thegunpenguin]

I guess I'm used to the P30. Though I adore the P30, it has one of the worst triggers ever to grace a hammer-fired gun. Though they share many aspects, the P2000 is notably more crisp, feeling like a dream next to the P30. In my opinion, anyhow!

[@cfcgregd]

Lost all of them in boating accident??? My dog ate all of mine, too! LOL

[@clplusp8762]

My favorite HK is and always will be the USP COMPACT.., the p2000 and the p30 are just plagued by that lefty slide release that gets all loose and jiggly after 1000 rounds or so. I like that rear decocker though

[@thegunpenguin]

Maybe I've gotten lucky, but neither my P30 nor my P2000 suffered from wiggly slide release. I fired far more than 1000 rounds through both. Luck of the draw, perhaps.

[@clplusp8762]

And here I am trying to get a P2000 now. Good thing there’ll be mag interchangeability

[@TheSonicVoid]

While I do love the P2000 (I have the SK model), there's just something about the USP compact that's hard to beat. I love the looks, how it feels in the hand, the trigger, etc. It's just an iconic pistol. Definitely a bomb proof gun that can go through hell and back.

[@thegunpenguin]

The USP is excellent!

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

Totally agree. Team USPc!

[@nerychristian]

Yes! I love the USP compacts! I own three 45 compacts and one 9mm compact. I was so pissed when they were removed from the California gun roster. I was planning on buying another 9mm compact. I also have a P2000, which technically is a more modern version of it. But I still feel like the USP compact feels more solid in the hand.

[@cameronizatt7176]

This was my first time watching one of your videos. It was very enjoyable and entertaining. I subscribed and look forward to watching more of your work. I am a fan of the P2000 and hope to obtain one in the near future. Thanks!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks for the kind words, and I appreciate you watching! The P2000 is awesome, and I hope you get one soon!

[@wraithRR]

just bought a p2k today. held a glock 19, an M&P 2.0 compact and the p30. this fit my hand so good, funny thing is i have opposite hand type to you (very long skinny guitarist fingers) and fits me perfectly as well.

[@thegunpenguin]

I play guitar for a living, so I've never seen that hand size/shape makes much difference there, but I guess it's all subjective with handgun grips.

[@ajfam871]

One of my favorites great size, durability, good looking, fully ambidextrous, in priced rail. I have in Lite LEM. I wish this could use the HK match trigger. Being in California it's a godsend since we cant get the newer pistols (pretty much anything after Gen 3 glocks), I know stupid.... but I guess it prevents and ie reduces crime. I will picking another soon.

[@thegunpenguin]

I'm with you on the match trigger -- it'd be really nice to have such an option available for this, the P30, and the HK45s. Also, I'm sorry about the ridiculous California gun laws. I can't imagine how frustrating that must be to see new guns come out, especially newer versions of approved guns, and never make their way to the list. At least, that's my understanding of the CA laws; I have no idea if I'm close or not.

[@robertrenstrom4668]

The gun laws in California DO NOT reduce crime, absolutely DOES NOT not reduce crime. Looks like you're being sucked in by the propaganda of the leftist media like too many other Americans who rely upon their knowledge based upon the news. There is a website, whose name on forgetting at the moment, that details all of the crime statistics and studies regarding handguns and the so-called assault weapons. The government's own data proves "beyond a reasonable doubt," that states with stricter gun laws have more violent crime, per capita.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@robertrenstrom4668 I don't think adjam8721 is being serious about gun laws reducing crime.

[@robertrenstrom4668]

@@thegunpenguin Hmmmm, I missed the sarcasm in his post. Okay, so I'll put my soapbox away for a while. ☺

[@charlesbeall2589]

​@@robertrenstrom4668 You're passionate about your beliefs, not your "feelings" (as is all the rage these days) I'm in total agreement with you Sir! 🇺🇸

[@manuelsanchez4947]

Can’t decide between this or a Hellcat pro? Please 🙏 help

[@jasonroberts9357]

As a DA/SA hammer fired pistol fan, I'm biased, but can fully recommend the P2000. If you want a bit of a smaller footprint, go for the P2K subcompact. All the best with your search and decision!

[@timewing4611]

I finally got a P2000. Was wanting to get rid of a few of my Glocks so traded one for a P2000 in 40. I’ve been a little reluctant to get one but man, I’m glad I got one. This is much better than I thought it would be. I have a P30sk and honestly I don’t know which one I like better now that I have both

[@kurt31451]

How is the recoil and muzzle rise on the P2000 .40? I want to buy a 40 S&W and am thinking about P2000 .40 or HK P30L .40 Does the recoil bother you? Which one should I buy? Thanks.

[@timewing4611]

The p2000 in 40s&w definitely has a kick to it, but it’s not that bad. I would prefer it in 9 to be honest. I would say go for the p30l if going for a 40

[@kurt31451]

@@timewing4611 Thanks.

[@Tinarita]

Well I didn’t get mine for $600 but I still feel like I got a great pistol for the $$$ I did pay. It’s my first personal firearm and I cannot wait to take her out shootin’! Great review and info. I’ll be referring to your channel for tips and info, for sure.

[@thegunpenguin]

Even at the original price of $1000, this gun wasn't a bad deal, and prices have gone up substantially thanks to the pandemic purchasing. Thank you for the kind words, and I hope you enjoy your new pistol!

[@jockomcneal4108]

This vid is 2yrs old? Why I never seen it! Anyways, levity aside, have had one of these since 08 or 09. Wow. Fk'n eh. There's really almost nothing to say about it, the P2000 that is. Like lowbrow art you either get it or you don't. It's a V3 DA/SA with decocker and night sights. Size? Perfect for any use whether you like to kill paper, compete, EDC, or just flat out like handguns. I enjoy the fact that the near standard of the world Beretta 92 came up in this with such enthusiasm. Its literally custom made to fit my big glommy hands it seems. I rented one and was a surgeon with it, but since carry involved the Mrs as well there was no choice but the P2000. 9mm for economic practice reasons (well used to be!) and recoil that can be managed. Great vid, wry humor, and as it seems, you get it. It'd be freaky if you were into lowbrow art too...🙄

[@thegunpenguin]

I am lowbrow art.

[@thomaseynon6205]

Purchased a p2000 .40 V3 back in April of 2020. I loved everything about the gun, with the exception of the spurred hammer. Being an appendix carry guy, with a bit of belly, it made sitting for long periods extremely uncomfortable. After a bit of research, I took a day to swap parts, and create a V1 out of it. I did leave the Decocker, so I wouldn’t leave an annoying empty hole on the back of the slide. But with the correct springs, I now have the LEM light, with a consistent tigger pull of 4lbs. My love of this pistol grew to the point, I ended up purchasing a V2 P2000sk. Again, a few springs swapped, and that sweet 4lb trigger now resides on both pistols. Owning multiple handguns, these two really stand out as being at the top of my list of favorites. The p2000 series of pistols are probably the most underrated handguns out on the market. Nearing 22 years after they were first created, these things still remain among the best handguns you can buy

[@kurt31451]

How is the recoil and muzzle rise on the P2000 .40? I am going the get either the P2000 .40 or the HK P30L .40 cal. I would appreciate any opinion you have. Thanks.

[@Korazjian]

@@kurt31451 bro those are 2 totally different platforms but it would depend on what your application would be lol The L is obviously going to shoot a little flatter but its almost an inch longer and half inch taller

[@kurt31451]

@@Korazjian Thanks.

[@Korazjian]

@@kurt31451 no problem brotherman, i would highly suggest the v3 in 9mm. ive shot the .40 version and like the 9mm more its a flat shooter, faster for followups for its size....

[@GrandLuxx]

I just bought a HK 45c. Now I want a HK 9 millie. It's either between the P30, VP9, or the P2000. Which one would you recommend??

[@thegunpenguin]

Oh man, that's a hard choice. First of all, I wholeheartedly agree with your choice of the 45C. Here are some pros and cons to each of those, in my mind: 1. The P2000 is my current favorite 9mm HK. It's got a great trigger, that'll feel nearly identical to your 45C, only the reset is slightly longer. The gun is smaller than it seems, and feels like a USP, only with a 1913 rail. The 2k is very comfortable, and the grip is just the right length. I shoot it a little better than the VP9 and the P30. The only real mark against this pistol is the magazine capacity, but the grip is such a nice size that it's tough to complain. Oh, and the trigger is far superior to that of the P30, despite the frequent online claims that they are the same. 2. The VP9 is nice, and that trigger is great. I don't put much stock in the online tests claiming that the gun doesn't run well, as I've seen and fired many that ran just fine. Really, the only "problem" with the VP9 is that there are other manufacturers putting out superior striker-fired guns for the same price. The PPQ has a better trigger. The P10 C also has a better trigger, and a lighter recoil impulse. Though I find the VP9 to be enjoyable to shoot, it's not as stunningly awesome as the P2000, or as cool as the P30. 3. The P30 has one of the most comfortable grips on planet Earth. And probably other planets, I guess. Those Moon Men make a very ergonomic plasma ray. But I digress. That grip, it's really exceptional. The P30 feels very natural, and points really well. I like the modern touches, like the front slide serrations and the captive takedown pin. The P30 has enough of those little cool bits to make it very, very fun to shoot. But, that trigger -- it's straight up bad. Really bad. It's spongey, and you can feel the actual piece of plastic flex under your finger. Yuck. Now that I'm used to it, I appreciate how forgiving and safe the trigger is, and it would be an absolutely awesome defensive gun for that reason, but the trigger puts it behind the P2000 for me. Both the P2000 and the P30 are worth owning. I wouldn't give up either. But, if I could only have one, I vote P2000. It's a perfect match for your new 45C, sporting the same grip and trigger, and it's one of the coolest-looking pistols HK has made. After my own 45C, the P2k might be my favorite HK. After my Beretta, it might be one of my favorite pistols ever. Oh hell, it looks like I just wrote you a novel. Sorry. Anyway, I hope this helps!

[@GrandLuxx]

Thanks for responding, you're awesome man! lol. I was already leaning towards the P2000 but your words have given me more confidence and I'm definitely choosing the P2000. The thing about the VP9 is I already own the CZ P 10 c which I adore and is my winter carry gun, so I wasn't really that interested, but I still considered it. Again, thanks so much for answering and I love your style of video. I'm new to guns. I've been shooting for roughly 2 and a half years and it's become a serious hobby of mine, so when I came across your videos, It was clear to me that you were very knowledgeable and knew what the hell you were talking about. I've always had this love affair with HK even though I never owned one until now and I'm strangely satisfied and happy now that I own an HK. The price always turned me away but I finally said fuck it and I treated myself to an HK lol. I'm definitely going to buy the P2000 next week. I love the way it looks and for some reason I love DA/SA decockers. I own a few glocks, a few CZ's, a Walther and now finally a HK baby! Sorry man, I'm just so excited to shoot the 45c and also to get my hands on the P2000 next. I'm also interested in Beretta. For a first Beretta, is there a particular one you would recommend over the others? Thanks again educated my noob ass

[@thegunpenguin]

Seriously, I’m happy to help. Yeah, if you’ve already got a P10 C, I’d absolutely double down on the recommending the P2000 over the VP9. I believe the P10 C and the Walther PPQ to be the best striker-fired guns around; my PPQ has something like 6k rounds through it without a malfunction, or possibly more. And of course Glocks are super great. In short, you’ve got great taste! You have an awesome gun collection, and you probably wouldn’t find the VP9 to be as exciting as most of the stuff you’ve already got. For the record, I completely understand what you mean about HKs. When I was a kid, I thought HKs were extravagantly cool, and I swore I’d buy a USP later in life. And you’re totally right, it’s just plain satisfying to have something that you’ve wanted since you were 15. Testing a few of mine all these years later, I was happy to see that they aren’t all hype, and are actually indestructible. The price drops have made them far more reasonable to purchase, so that’s nice. I understand your love affair with SA/DA decocking guns, as they are my personal preference. Don’t get me wrong -- I love striker-fired pistols, but my favorites are usually hammer-fired. When will you get to shoot the 45C? Here is a list of Beretta recommendations, in order. I apologize in advance for the length, but Berettas are fucking exciting: 1. The 92A1 is my favorite pistol of all time. I have one that I heavily customized myself, and it’s the most reliable pistol that I’ve ever had, or fired, or hell, even held. Mine is completely beat to death, and keeps running. At this point, it’s more like a friend than a hunk a metal that spits out smaller hunks of metal. The trigger is exceptional, the grip is comfortable, it has very little recoil, it’s easy to shoot, and the craftsmanship is stunning for a gun under $700. I bought this gun a few years ago because I’d always wanted a Beretta, and figured it’d be a cool gun to take to the range. Instead, it became the gun I shoot more than any other. Mine has been subjected to an absurd round count, and has yet to even break any small parts. 2. The classic M9 is a great choice. The price is right, they are beautifully constructed, and have the classic look. They have some antiquated quirks, like the non-removable front sight and the lack of a 1913 rail, but the M9 is one of those guns that everybody ends up owning at some point just to have one. It doesn’t hurt that they shoot like a custom pistol. 3. The PX4 is totally underrated. I have a 8000 Cougar, the all-metal precursor to the polymer PX4, but I’ve shot the PX4 quite a bit. It’s got an outstanding trigger, has a dramatically lessened recoil impulse thanks to the rotating barrel lock-up system thingy, and isn’t particularly heavy. A very nice gun. Folks talk crazy shit about the Berettas, and most of the time, those folks haven’t actually shot them extensively, and that frustrates me. In my experience, Beretta reliability is on-par with Glocks, and in a few cases, greater. A lot of the Beretta hate is recycled internet horseshit that folks just sort of repeat absentmindedly. My own testing shows them to be at the top of the pile, along with CZ, Glock, HK, and Walther. Anyhow, I really appreciate the kind words, and it’s been great talking with you. Let me know how you like the 45C, and if you have any more questions, I’m happy to answer. Assuming the answer is rattling around somewhere in my big stupid head. Oh, and before I forget, welcome to the sport, and after 2.5 years, you’re WAY more knowledgeable than some of the folks I know who have been shooting for 25 years. I hope this was helpful. I’m pretty dumb, but I’ve done a lot of testing, and I’m happy to pass that info along.

[@thegunpenguin]

And before I forget, I've got a video coming today or tomorrow that will show the 92A1 up close, next to the CZ SP-01. Maybe that comparison will be helpful.

[@BrianOblivionB]

So I have the px4, I want a compact px4, Jericho 941, and the p2000... but I'm poor and sad.

[@thegunpenguin]

But you've got great taste!

[@--RSL--]

I sold 2 usp's off in the past for some reason and wanted another uspc 9mm until i saw the ridiculous prices and got sad until i noticed the p2000... The usp with a better rail for lights, yay! Bought one... Love it... Won't sell it this time.

[@billassande7628]

Good overview, I've had both the P2000 V3 and now carry a V2 (light LEM). I'll be getting a USP Compact shortly and look forward to seeing how P2000 compares.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thanks!

[@shreddinjoe]

Do they make a Full sized 2000?

[@InstinctiveFirearmReviews]

We use p2000 9mm V5 DAO. It's a tank of a gun but man such a long Dao short sight radius. It is a hard gun to train new people on. But I dig it.

[@theprepperrevelator]

Absolutely love the P-2000!

[@daffidavit]

I have the same gun, new from 2006. The only difference is the labeling on the grip. Instead of "P/2000", it is stamped as "HK/P2000". That seems to be the only difference. I've taken it to the range and I do not detect any difference compared to my Glock 30 or my Kimber 1911 .45 ACP. The recoil seems to be about the same. I love this gun, but I must admit my groupings on the Glock and Kimber are a little better. Maybe my sites are off, but this gun does come with night sites and the Glock and Kimber do not. My HK P2000 is 16 years old, but it has less than 2000 rounds through it. I keep it handy and loaded as one of my home defense handguns. It's the only gun I own with ambidextrous mag and slide releases. The best safety feature is the "de-cocker". When you rack a round in the chamber, then you can "de-cock" the trigger and use it safely for its double action feature. In other words, it's much safer than my Glock because the first trigger pull requires much more force than the next. It's got a hammer, instead of a pin. Much safer than my Glock 30.

[@jimmihshs]

Any chance of an update if you've been able to put more rounds through it?

[@DC9716]

I paid $850 with night sights in June 2023. I love it and wouldn't change anything.

[@Brianbo4]

Got the gray guns short reset kit as well as the slim slide release. Trijicon HD’s and it’s definitely my favorite all around 9

[@GregSims-f2h]

Great video getting mine this week

[@robmoss2257]

100% Agreed! I love my P2000...

[@thegunpenguin]

It's a great gun!

[@DC9716]

I recently purchased one of these, and I love it. If I would change anything, it would be the European mag release to an American push button type, but only because that is what I've always had. Other than that, in my opinion, it is the perfect pistol.

[@Silverbulletzx3]

I carry my P2000 daily. I love this gun! It is crazy how no one really knows about it. They kinda go "Oh...cool...." Til they shoot it

[@russellwhalen1264]

Very well made video... and love the subliminal humor. Warped, in a goof way!

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you, my friend!

[@sinqros]

Was looking at a Used 9 mm Compact P2000 H&K yesterday, I wonder if I should get it?

[@Gumby56]

P2000, best HK ever made!!! Mine is in 40 like my px4 and 2022.

[@thegunpenguin]

It's certainly a nice gun! I'm not a .40 fan myself, but I understand why folks like it. Thanks for watching it!

[@alexdavalos3083]

My P2000 with the LEM trigger is one of my favorites.

[@seson1615]

Berettas are great dude the px4 trigger is heaven. It's just a heavier n slightly more bulky gun. The p2k is really in a league of its own. It's my personal favorite pistol

[@MilitantX1]

You trigger hounds tickle me! Lol! There is nothing wrong with the P30's trigger! Other than that, good video bro!

[@e6x912]

This might be my best option for a pistol because im ambidextrous (mostly left handed). I love your content please make more reviews like this. Have a nice day.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you so much for the kind words, and I'll definitely keep the reviews coming. For you, I'd say this would be an excellent option. This pistol feels truly great in either hand.

[@saulgonzalez6022]

Great review, Thank You! I also appreciate the comparison with the p30. I just changed the small mag release on my p2000 because it was just a bit hard to activate with my index finger and I have a thumb that doesn’t bend. I noticed that the p30 mag release is nice and big and shaped nicely behind the trigger guard, I wonder if it fits the p2000.

[@FM-xr5nj]

I just picked one of these up used for $450. Any chance you can do a complete disassembly/reassembly video???

[@thegunpenguin]

You got a great deal! Do you want a detail strip video, or a field strip? Field stripping is probably covered in this video, though I can't quite remember. Realistically, I can't do a detail strip. Those videos take a very long time to make, and few folks watch them. However, I'm honored that you would ask.

[@FM-xr5nj]

thegunpenguin lol I was looking for a full detailed strip video. I actually found a P30 detailed strip, the slide is the same process, and I think the lower will be pretty similar as well. Feels like a great gun, I’ve wanted one for a while, HK are definitely great firearms. Keep up the good work!

[@thegunpenguin]

@@FM-xr5nj Thank you, my friend, and I'm glad you were able to find something that will work for you. As you say, the process is the same. Most of the frame parts, if not virtually all, are interchangeable.

[@a.p.409]

There are 16 round magazines available for the p2000.

[@Chris09978]

Is it going to be in the same package as it would with the 13 round magazine or it extends out a tad more than the 13round

[@chrissanchez9935]

Comprehensive comparison. I like your video presentation. The info here is what I am looking for.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@aliveinlight6604]

I paid $750.00 In California for mine brand new just last weekend. I seen some online for 699 and 750 respectfully. I like this gun.

[@rammbostein]

I know, they're more expensive here in CA, I'm on the fence between it (P2000), the Beretta 92/M9 or the Glock 17.

[@aliveinlight6604]

@@rammbostein You probably can't go wrong with any of those. I was in a pinch and because of corona the good Glocks and Berettas are hard to find. I went with the p2000 9mm

[@thegunpenguin]

I've extensively tested all of those, and whichever you choose, you win. Those are among the most reliable pistols one can purchase. It'll really come down to which feels best in your hands. The P2000 will be easiest to conceal, and given the 10-round capacity you're limited to, maybe it makes sense to go with something smaller.

[@loudlife7648]

Try an LEM trigger kit in that P30. It is the sexx

[@thegunpenguin]

The LEM is hot fire. I'm thinking there is a P30L LEM in my future. As much as I utterly loath the stock P30 trigger, I've weirdly gotten used to it, like it's sort of fun to revel in how staggeringly awful it is.

[@danalamb8398]

H&K 2000 9mm nice grip,excellent compact size and reliable

[@dracovolans319]

Came here for the P2000 review. Subscribed for the horse.

[@MisterW99]

It’s smaller than it looks on screen and I don’t like the way it feels when I hold it. Very good weapon though

[@datboi__]

P2000 was my first pistol, got it in 2016. I live in cali with the stupid handgun roster and since it is one of the only ambi guns on the roster and I'm left handed I got it. I definitely agree with you, the gun is suuper top heavy. The grip/frame of the gun is so sleek and nice but the slide is just huge asf and it kinda throws the balance of the gun off. I wish it was more proportionate but you can definitely shoot it just as well as other guns. It is highly highly slept on but the main drawback is how big and heavy the gun is on the top half. You really notice it when you're shooting and the muzzle flip is gnarly compared to pretty much any other gun. The single action trigger pull is actually pretty amazing tbh (for hk sa/da) and if you shoot it right the reset doesn't feel as long as it seems

[@leonamuwu904]

3:03, A lot of Q's from it's predecessors... I appreciate this. Do you think John De Lancie would carry a PQthousand?

[@marlonnodal7143]

I wish it had a 1000 rounds, but it would make the grip longer...

[@herman66mi83]

Ended choosing HKp30SK and HKp30L models and love the shorter and longer barrels. Top tiere quality and just great gun porn to look at!

[@orsini68]

Have you had any issues on failure to eject with the p30L with 115 grain? Out the box with blazer brass (I know not amazing) got jams everytime I pulled the trigger, even checked my grip all the fundamentals but it wouldn’t quit..used higher quality ammo and it ran flawlessly, ive read a lot that you need to run hotter ammo thru it first since that’s what it’s designed on(124 grain) but just trying to see if anyone else is having same issue, because I love the gun and want to keep it but I’m almost ready to give it up for that reason because I don’t want to be worried about it jamming in a time of need, my b for the paragraph lol

[@perspective4477]

Great vid I’ve watched every vid love your voice and vids keep up the good work

[@thegunpenguin]

Wow, that means a lot, thank you so much! I'll try to be a bit more regular with the videos. Thanks for watching -- I really appreciate it.

[@dexm2010]

7:49 -7:53 You don't think the DA trigger on the SIG 2022 is at least as good as the one on this gun?

[@buny3170]

I went to my local shop wanting a P30 and bought a P2000 and I am in love. I have a H&K 40 cal and love it, so I traided a 40 cal of another brand to get my P2000 and I am over the moon happy.

[@thegunpenguin]

I'm so glad you love it! In my mind, you made a great choice. I've always regretted buying the P30 over a P2000, and comparing them side-by-side, the P2000 feels so much better. Anyway, I really appreciate you watching my video, and thanks for taking the time to share your experience with this awesome pistol!

[@buny3170]

I feel H&K is a superior brand. If you can spend the money this is a brand to look at first.

[@thegunpenguin]

They make a great product. I never thought I'd say this, but after the price drop, I'm routinely finding them for the same price as Glocks and the like. My P30 and P2000 were actually less than the going rate for a Glock with night sights, new. That's just so crazy! I've done a lot of testing this year, and I've found Glock, Beretta, HK, Walther, and CZ to all be virtually indestructible and built to a very high standard. I'd happily shoot just about anything from those brands. Congratulations on your new P2000!

[@thorrinhammer7252]

Hey man quick question, I have tiny lady fingers, how does this feel in hand to say a glock 19 or p320?

[@thegunpenguin]

Hey Adam, I have some experience with the P320, but a ton of experience with the G19. To my hands, the P2000 feels substantially slimmer than the Glock, and is far more comfortable to hold, though you may find that the HK's grip is slicker. That might be a pro or a con to you. The P320 feels thicker as well, though not to the same degree as the Glock. I know several shooters with small hands, a few of whom are females with very, very tiny hands, who find the HK to be very comfortable. Hopefully that helps, and thanks for watching!

[@thorrinhammer7252]

@@thegunpenguin thanks man I appreciate the quick response!! I have a buddy wanting to trade my glock 19x for is p2000 v3 and thinking I'd do it. The video was freaking awesome man!!

[@thegunpenguin]

​@@thorrinhammer7252 I'm happy to help, and thanks for the very generous compliment! I really appreciate it. That's a good trade, I think, if you shoot the P2000 well. Is it possible for you try them both side-by-side? I have the G45, and the grip is noticeably bulbous, though it's very comfortable to me, I could certainly see how it might not be to someone else.

[@kaiotikworld8945]

I'm a tiny girl 4"11 and have....proportianally small hands lol....tried out almost every pistol at the range and this was perfect in every way...it jus feels perfect. The recoil is really friendly,it feels damn right in my hand.i can't even describe with words how great the trigger feels...spend the extra $ and get the p2000. Totally underrated for some reason. When I bought this all the guys a the range got mad/jealous I gotta last one they had in stock. Spend the extra few bucks instead of always wondering "what if" if shoulda coulda wouldve-ing.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@kaiotikworld8945 I know quite a few ladies who adore the P2000. Great choice, and I totally agree with you about the trigger; it beats the hell out of the P30.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

The VP9 was the first HK built to a cost point as far as I know. That's why it doesn't look or cost the same as the others.

[@thegunpenguin]

I've heard much the same. HK wanted a pistol that we would and could buy lots of. And dammit, we did. Do you ever go to the gun store and hear some guy walk up to the counter and exclaim, "An HK for $500! Ring me up!" I find myself thinking, "No, don't do it, gun store guy! There's a P10 C right next to it!" I find the VP9 especially disappointing after owning a P10 C for awhile. HK had an opportunity to do what they do best, and innovate on the striker-fired gun formula. Instead, they just followed that formula, but made it HK-shaped. Meanwhile, CZ releases this gun that is truly exciting, and manages to cost less while being more robust. Once again, I really appreciate you watching, and for taking the time to weigh in. You seem like you might enjoy the interesting plastic European pistols as much as I do!

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

+thegunpenguin Exactly. Sadly the more competitive the market gets, the less creatives get to do what they do best; innovate. Instead, accounting starts making executive decisions. I've seen the same thing start to happen at Walther also. I remember reading that HK was in danger of going into bankruptcy a few years back; that would have been right around the time the VP9 came out.

[@thegunpenguin]

You're absolutely right, and I very much view your realistic and factual view of economics. I knew that HK had faced bankruptcy at the time, but I hadn't put it together that the VP9 was the bailout plan. While it might've worked, it means that we'll see a thousand variations of that pistol before we get something futuristic from the minds that brought us the P7. Also, I hadn't much thought about Walther's current trajectory, but I see your point. The PPQ is an amazing gun, but is arguably less advanced that the utterly crazy P99, which is still ahead of things now, 21 years after its debut. I'd rather see a successor to the P99, with new features so insane that I can't even conceive of what they might be. Instead, we get differently shaped Glocks with different logos on the slide. Don't get me wrong, I adore my PPQ, it's a favorite, but where's the crazy stuff we dreamed of when we were kids?

[@bayard0157]

It is now. VP9's are going for more money than the P30 now and about the same as the P2000 price wise. But it is still HK's mass produced economy pistol.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@bayard0157 It's kind of funny, really. There's never been a better time to stock up on hammer-fired HKs.

[@darrenhaywood7924]

Can a 13 rd p2000 mag fit my p2000sk?

[@FL-Kaiman]

Yea, and any full size p30, vp9, and usp compact mags

[@shinoasada2216]

TheGunPenguin, what hearing protection do you use?

[@thegunpenguin]

Mostly the electronic Peltors. What about you?

[@shinoasada2216]

@@thegunpenguin I like Pro Tac Slim Gold electronic muffs ( 28 dB NRR rating ), Ops Core AMP electronic muffs ( 22 dB NRR ) or Pro Tac Plus Gold ( 26 dB NRR ). When double protection is needed, additional 3M Peltor TEP-100 ( TEP stands for tactical electronic plugs ) is my favorite choice. They have different ear buds available ( NRR rating ranging from 23 dB to 30 dB ).

[@chef_hood]

I'm actually going to the store to pick my p2000 up in a few days I hope it is as good as advertised

[@vernievuitton]

LOL you sold me with that Red Rocket joke xD Makes me hungry for hot dogs!

[@robfohl]

Bought one for my wife.. hope she can handle the 8lb double action trigger pull on the first round..its gonna make an interesting xmas present unwrap in front of the family...we have a sheriff deputy as a grandson..

[@nolune2943]

This was a nice video which informed me very well. Good job and thank you.

[@thegunpenguin]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@LiChoiFungfan]

It may have been introduced in 2001 but, it may have been completed as a design in 2000.

[@thegunpenguin]

I suspect I was making a little joke there.

[@LiChoiFungfan]

@@thegunpenguinOkayyyy.

[@dave928]

my EDC is a P2000 .40 that i've had for about 15 years. haven't come across anything else that i want to trade it for. but a P226 is close. i also have a USP .40, P30L .40 and HK .45, Sig P239 .40 and P226 .40. but i keep coming back to the P2000. ♥

[@kurt31451]

I am thinking about buying the P2000 .40 or the HK P30L IN .40 cal. Can you tell me how is the recoil in the P2000, P30L and the USP .40? How does the muzzle rise and recoil compare to each other? Which one should I get? Any opinion you have will be appreciated. Thanks.

[@dave928]

@@kurt31451 if buying one of them now i would get the P30L. the ergonomics are nicer and more modern compared to the other two. and the trigger is smoother. the USP is a bulky gun, you wouldn't want to carry it. recoil - they're all still a little snapier than a 9mm. you could also look for a Sig P226 or P229. but you'd have to buy used, Sig stopped making anything in .40 after covid hit. the Walther P99 is nice too (again, used, no new .40's). not as nice as the HK or Sigs though. but i'd still go with the P30.

[@kurt31451]

@@dave928 Thanks. This is great information.

[@housebaelishgaming]

Excuse me sir I have an USP compact 40 caliber in stainless steel from 1997 with KH date code I bought it for 800 good deal or?

[@thegunpenguin]

That's a decent deal. $800 is about the going rate, though I've seen them far lower than that, as low as $550-600. However, $800 is pretty much the average. The stainless slides are beautiful and highly desirable. Even as the popularity of the .40 wanes, I suspect that the value of these will only continue to rise.

[@housebaelishgaming]

@@thegunpenguin kinda what I thought too and I guess someone else just told me that he sold his for 1300 that that particular year had a limited stainless production which made it harder to find not too sure. And one other thing I want to know where do I find an right side slide release

[@thegunpenguin]

@@housebaelishgaming '97 was the first year of the stainless .40 Compacts, but I don't know if folks generally value that year higher or not. I'm not saying that's not the case, I just haven't personally seen it. Either way, you have an awesome pistol there. You should be able to find the parts you need at HK Parts.

[@YaYa-ke1zr]

I bought a brand new Stainless USPc in .40 S&W for $800 last year. I was thinking the going rate should have been less than that for a used one... unless the used one was a mint commemorative version? Today, during gun pandemic, I think all new German made HK’s have been marked up by a good $200 or so.

[@housebaelishgaming]

@@YaYa-ke1zr well I have a relic for the future and a beautiful one at that because 100 years from now people will want it

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

One is for sale here in Virginia and they are asking $950 for the gun, three mags and two holsters. Still seems steep.

[@thegunpenguin]

That’s very expensive. Prior to the pandemic, these were selling for about $600.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@thegunpenguin Yeah that seems ridiculous. I might make an offer just to see what happens, but I'll wait it out if I have to. Besides I hate when people list a bunch of accessories and expect you to pay a bunch extra for them. I like to make my own holsters anyway.

[@thegunpenguin]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Yeah, hopefully you can convince the seller to be a bit more reasonable.

[@andyleotell]

Bass pro has them for $750ish….

[@paymanalimi8201]

I have one with LEM

[@thegunpenguin]

Awesome! LEM is great.

[@monkeybrains911]

I live in California and this gun is on the roster thinking of this or the glock 19

[@thegunpenguin]

Not that you need my opinion, but either one is a fantastic choice. Do you prefer DA/SA guns, or striker-fired ones? I guess you lose less capacity with the P2000 at 10 rounds, and it's a bit smaller than the Glock. And maybe a little lighter as well. The HK's trigger is better. Reliability and quality are fairly similar, though the HK is fitted a little better. But the Glock has the accessories. I have an alternative idea to pitch to you. I apologize for the unsolicited advice, and this is me thinking out loud more than anything, but, with the California capacity limit, have you thought about getting a larger caliber? Maybe the HK45C with one of the extended 10-round magazines would be an interesting choice. Or maybe a Glock 30, or a hell, a 10mm. I live on the other side of the country, though, so there's also a pretty good chance that I don't know what I'm talking about, on this subject. And really, probably any other subject, for that matter. And for the record, I am absolutely not one of those .45 guys feels that any other caliber is hilariously weak. I shoot all of the major pistol calibers, and find them all to be adequate, though I favor 9mm. However, I've noticed that .45 seems to do slightly more damage to watermelons and pumpkins. The trade-off is that it's much harder to shoot well. 9mm is very easy for most people to shoot well following some instruction, while .45 requires a lot more effort and training to shoot as well. Those are probably the two handgun calibers I shoot most often, and I feel like I have to spend a lot more time with my .45 guns to keep my rather poor skills as sharp as my 9mm skills. Anyhow, I'm sure you know all this, I just like to cover everything because I'm totally nuts.

[@monkeybrains911]

thegunpenguin no I really do appreciate the reply! I’m actually 20 I turn 21 in February so this will be my first gun. I’ve shot mostly striker fired guns and I don’t really like the different trigger pulls on the hammers. I think for California I am stuck with a glock if I want a nice striker fired gun. I was excited to get a cz p10c until I learned about the stupid laws here... Maybe I should go for a larger caliber but I shoot 9 way better at the range!

[@thegunpenguin]

I'm happy to help, truly. I don't blame you for wanting a striker-fired gun, and Glock is an amazing choice. Another 9mm striker-fired gun worth lookin at is the Walther PPQ, though I'm sure you've already looked at that one. It may not be on the approved list -- I'm not really sure which ones are and aren't. My PPQ has been very, very reliable, and has a much better trigger than the Glock. But, the Glock trigger is very forgiving, even if it's not the best. My first gun was a Glock, and that's probably the right choice for most people. It's a damn shame that you can't get the P10 C; that would be my ultimate recommendation. After talking with you, I don't know if you'd like the HK P2000. The first trigger pull is pretty heavy, even by double action standards. I consider that a feature, but I'm more into hammer-fired guns than anything else. Generally, of the hammer-fired guns, Berettas seem to be the easiest for folks to shoot, due to the very high quality of the trigger pull. Anyhow, here's more info than you ever wanted, and sorry for butting in with my opinion! Happy early birthday, and from talking to you, I suspect that, whichever gun you pick, it'll be something really cool! And let me add that, 9mm is also almost always the right choice. If you're shooting that caliber way better, I'd highly recommend getting a 9. Most people, myself included, shoot 9mm far better. Those older guys who say .45 has less recoil, and is the only caliber that matters, etc. etc. are fooling themselves. I have to practice twice as hard and often with .45 to shoot it as well as 9.

[@monkeybrains911]

thegunpenguin we can only get the p1 or p22 so not anything I would even consider haha and thanks so much I have been doing so much research and I’m still not sure! A glock 22 or 19 is what I’m considering at this point. We can get XDs and one m&p shield but that’s too small. I don’t like the xds so I guess that’s what I’m stuck with. And if I ever move it will be easy to find the 15 round glock mags. It’s really bad here the laws are crazy we can’t even get concealed carry permits

[@monkeybrains911]

thegunpenguin and thanks for the happy birthday!

[@josephkim5015]

Hk p2000 v3 or Sig sp2022? I’ve held the Sig and I love it, but a friend also suggested looking at this HK p2000 v3. Any suggestions...opinions?

[@thegunpenguin]

The P2000, in my opinion, is a better gun in most ways. If you're planning to carry, the HK is a bit easier to conceal. The controls are better. The grip feels better, and the gun is built to a higher standard of quality. However, that's not to say that the SIG Sauer isn't a great gun -- it certainly is. The HK is just a cut above. I also don't intend for this to sound like HK snobbery. There are lots of guns just as nice as the P2000, like the gen. 5 Glocks, the Walther PPQ, the newer Berettas, et. al.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

I own both a P2000 and a Sig Sauer P228, both in 9mm. I daily carry both although I carry the P2000 more often cause I personally like it better than the P228, but you can't really go wrong with either a HK or a Sig, I just suggest you try them out in person and hold them in your hands beforehand you choose, the feel in the hand/comfort is a huge factor imo

[@joseRodriguez-pk9ld]

Just bought mine today here in California for 900 after taxes and DROS fees 😎

[@jfr04261]

P2000 or Glock 19x/45 a better shooter?

[@thegunpenguin]

They aren't particularly comparable. One is a large striker-fired pistol, while the other is a compact hammer-fired pistol.