I’ve owned the VP9SK for about 5 years or so. I bought it for two reasons: first, I have other HKs in my collection (P2000V3 and the 45C), they are quality firearms for sure and second , I did not like the trigger on my Walther PPQM2. The PPQ trigger was too light for my preferences. The VP9SK is very accurate, and with the range of magazines available, it is one of the most versatile carry guns I own. Your comment about carrying a gun with a fully cocked striker was a bit of an attention getter for me. While I appreciate all the features of the VP9SK there is always that nagging thought in the back of my mind that this gun requires 100% of your attention (as they all do) while carrying it especially while re-holstering. Training issues notwithstanding, I always approach carrying the VP9SK with a lot more caution than I do with my Colt Defender or even my HK45C. Your video just reinforced that point.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and for adding your thoughts.
@douglasbrown751 Жыл бұрын
I have both the H&K P30SK & H&K VP9SK. I carry the P30SK during the day and the VP9SK at night with a light (either a Streamlight TLR 7A or Olight Baldr Mini With Green Laser Combo). I have no problem carrying a DA/SA (i.e., P30SK) pistol with decocker and no safety. For many years, I carried either a Glock 26 or Glock 19. However, the adjustable grip panels (sides and back) allow me to adjust each firearm to fit my hand vey well, and I have no problem shooting very accurately with the 10 round magazine (flat plate) which only allows me to grip the firearm with three fingers and the little finger being wrapped beneath the magazine. Either of these pistols makes a very good carry pistol, and I have never had a misfire with either (635 rounds fired in the VP9SK and 375 rounds fired in the P30SK). My preferred carry round is either Speer Gold Dot 124 +P or Winchester PDX1 Defender 124 +P. Additionally, I have found Federal Hydra-Shock and Federal HST to be good carry rounds.
@DavidMilesMusic Жыл бұрын
Have you been able to compare the p30sk with p365xl or such at all?
@rjo85002 жыл бұрын
I really like my P30SK V1 (LEM). It’s my main CCW. I had a VP9 but sold it to a friend. Turned around and bought a P30L V3. Now we’re talking! Good video, thanks.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@christophercannon40272 жыл бұрын
The Gray Guns short reset trigger kit for the P30 is amazing. Simple to install, or have installed.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see that Grayguns has one for the LEM trigger. Out of stock, but I'm on the wait-list. Thanks for the info.
@fjones19148 ай бұрын
I have the P30 SK but I have a bigger hammer on my version. I have the non LEM version. I have a safety lever on my version. I also have a decocker on the rear next to the hammer.
@bobp3738 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! Love the VP9 SK! Incredible hand fit and control.
@ricklarence7751 Жыл бұрын
I have both pistols and you can’t go wrong with either one
@DavidMilesMusic Жыл бұрын
Have you compared these to any of the other more modern striker fire pistols? Like p365 or shield? Im trying to decide atm
@ricklarence7751 Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMilesMusic I’ve had the 365 and also the shield plus. Didn’t keep either of them. I get bored quickly and trade them off
@paulcallaway712 жыл бұрын
I have a VP9SK as my home defense/backup carry pistol. It's a wonderful pistol and, of the guns that I own, my favorite to shoot. And I agree that it has one of the best striker fired triggers out there.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@whiteknucklestormchasing7 ай бұрын
Just bought a new P30sk!! Looking forward to getting a VP9 one day just to experience the trigger everyone raves about. Went with the P30sk first simply because I'm new to CCW, and a hammer gun gives more piece of mind when re holstering.
@RidersRange7 ай бұрын
I agree that a hammer is more reassuring than a striker-fired gun, considering that many (most) striker guns are 100% cocked - without a safety.
@geekofsteal6 ай бұрын
Thanks for that demonstration of the LEM action. I finally understand how it works now!...................AAAAAAAAAaaaaaand I'm still going with the DA/SA decocker only variant. I like the increased safety of the heavy DA trigger pull.
@CesarChavez-bn6iv2 жыл бұрын
Definitely will consider getting a VP9SK
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@The11eleven2 жыл бұрын
My first experience with HK was a P2000 - bought it used, and immediately(next day) sold it back to the person I bought it from. Next was P30 DA/SA w decocker. Tried to like it but my skills weren’t there to shoot consistently tight groups with it. Sold it… then I got into the VP9, and I couldn’t believe how easy it was to be accurate with. I dove deep into the P30 LEM and bought three of each(3 P30 LEM, and 3 P30SK LEM), which I usually do to any firearm that I love. Just in case the world falls apart, I want to have my favorite things secured. I know, I have a sickness… anyway, I did love the P30 series, but I just loved the VP9 series more, so I no longer own any P30 series pistols. VP9 remains as just about my favorite pistol of all time. Went through severe CZ phases to, but have come to the conclusion that for DA/SA the Sig P229 series it it for me, preferably German frames. Love P320 series. Love 1911s. Back to carrying Glock after 4 years of carrying the P365.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
@The11, it sounds like you've been around the block with a variety of pistols. Thanks for watching and adding your experience.
@veeklog Жыл бұрын
Have a P-30S V3 that I put in a Gray Guns SRS and Lazy Wolf 11 pound main spring; made the trigger feel night and day. Because of this I bought P-30SK V1 LEM today to go with my P-2000 LEM and USP Compact LEM. Will install a Gray Guns SRS and Lazy Wolf 11 pound main spring on all three soon.I also have a VP-9 and the trigger feels great, but prefer my P-30S with add ons
@elbestia1062 жыл бұрын
"THUMBS UP" Your video was very informative and I agree with everything you said. I have a VP9Sk and a P30SK LEM. The truth is, I shoot the VP9SK faster and a little more accurate than the P30SK. The LEM trigger does take time to get familiar with. I shoot mine just fine. I would feel comfortable if it was the only gun I owned. I would like to get the P30SK in SA/Da. However, I prefer the ole USP COMPACT SA/DA. You will find that the trigger is superior and as far as size, the USP COMPACT is the exact same as a VP9SK with the 13rd magazine. I also feel the USP COMPACT is more reliable than the VP9SK.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and adding your thoughts.
@HeavyMental10006 ай бұрын
I love HK!!!! Just listen to how the two different firearms sound when you rack them. So precise and fine tuned...music to my ears. That does it, I'm going to the range. Later!
@awokeone79972 жыл бұрын
I had first bought a P30 due to the HK reviews I saw on KZbin and love the look, feel, ergos and how well made the P30 was built but when shooting it, man was I having a hard time due to the bad trigger. Months later, bought a VP9 and sold my P30. VP9 is almost perfect due to I prefer 4lbs triggers. I also bought the VP9L kit and gun got even better. I would like a P30L with the Gray Guns trigger job but paying $700 + for a P30L and another $350 for the trigger work is something I'm not quite sold on just yet.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
I hear you. As long as the VP9 works for you, there's probably no need to add the P30 to the inventory.
@talisikid16182 жыл бұрын
Own several versions of each. Love them all.
@MrDarkside7148 ай бұрын
As a lefty and a novice pistol shooter, I love the VP9. The extra length of the trigger guard makes it easier to slide my finger on the trigger, and the slide release and the paddle mag release make it faster (for me) to reload. I hope it's never necessary to have those functions but it's always better to have it and not need it than the alternative. Thanks for sharing your expertise.
@chrisragone87854 ай бұрын
The LEM trigger is indeed 100% cocked despite the appearance of the hammer being down. There’s an internal cocking piece that is cocked.
@RidersRange4 ай бұрын
But without the inertia of the hammer striking the firing pin, there is less change of an inadvertent discharge.
@goodish3355 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree with you more regarding single action striker fired pistol's. I believe that's why we are seeing so many AD's in law enforcement and civilians with the sig 320's , there isn't even a trigger safety/dingus on it,.. yeah the trigger is sweet but way too light for people while under stress. Aleast the H&K has a trigger safety built into it. I'm a Glock fan and have carried one for 24 yrs in LE. Most shooters don't realize the glock is a double/action striker fired pistol extremely safe to carry or drop while chambered. Keep up the great reviews sir..
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. And thank you for your service to your community. Point of clarification: Glock was careful to not market their pistols as "double action", instead, they used the term "safe action". The striker is approximately 85% cocked with a 5 pound +/- trigger pull and there is no second strike capability, thus not actually double action.
@goodish3355 Жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange yes sir you are correct!! Glock explained it to us going through the armorers course ,they stated the 85% precock wasn’t enough to reliably detonate the primer. I don’t know and wouldn’t want to test the theory. Thanks for your awesome reviews and service sir.
@DavidMilesMusic Жыл бұрын
How is glock any safer than any other striker fire pistol.
@chrisragone87854 ай бұрын
@@DavidMilesMusicFor one thing there is a Striker Control Device made by Langdon Tactical for Glocks. It allows someone to thumb the “hammer” in this case the back of the Glock slide and lock the striker while holstering.
@bdm1000 Жыл бұрын
Grayguns can shorten the reset and allow you to shoot the LEM trigger faster. HK also sells a shorter and more flush slide stop/release (though it's pricey). It would basically give you the slide stop of the P2000SK (which doesn't come back as far to avoid riding it).
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Good info. Thanks.
@albertptran2 жыл бұрын
Love the range clips
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting.
@royyates15582 жыл бұрын
Great video rider!I agree with you on hammer fired vs Stryker fired.both my hk’s have the decocker.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
@roy yates, thanks again for watching and commenting.
@heyLaina Жыл бұрын
Great video! have been considering which to get for a while now. I shot the vp9sk a few months ago and fell in love with it but I just can't see myself carrying a gun without a safety.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
I'm a 1911 guy, so I really appreciate a manual safety. However, I wouldn't hesitate to carry the P30SK with the LEM trigger, as the trigger is more like a quality revolver.
@BlackBirdieGolf5 ай бұрын
Im looking to buy the vp9 sk optic ready this weekend.
@RidersRange5 ай бұрын
Good choice.
@romans6two3382 жыл бұрын
I had the P30 SK once in DA/SA. It is a very well made firearm, but it felt just too thick in width. I wish firearm manufacturers would create a SA Hellcat size hammer fired pistol. CZ, HK and SA would be great if they did that.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
@Romans 6two3, if you are looking for a hammer-fired pistol about the size of the Hellcat, take a look at the S&W CSX. I liked it enough when I did my tabletop review that I ended up buying it.
@Kawboy652 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison video. I bought a P30 LEM years ago for the reason of having the advantages of DA/SA without the trigger transition. It felt great great dry firing, but it gave me some nasty trigger slap for some reason while shooting. After a few mags, my trigger finger was rather sore. Because of this, the gun has been a $900 paper weight for me.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
I haven't had that issue with the trigger, but I just haven't been able to really get good with that LEM trigger, as much as I like the concept. But if I gave up my Staccato......
@MDpolo2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have any experience with the HK P30 SK but I love my VP9 SK LE version. I carry it with the 13 round mag and it is a laser beam in my hands. My only experience with the LEM trigger is with my P30L. I have a little north of 500 rounds through it and just starting to get a feel for it. Definitely a different experience but I’m starting to like it. Thank you very much for another informative and well done video.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
As always, thank you for watching and commenting.
@talisikid16182 жыл бұрын
Both are great.
@edwinsane3769 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your review a lot coz I’m considering one of em to add to my collection..
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@MaxRank Жыл бұрын
I own both and can easily say the VP9sk is better.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
It's still a tough decision. The LEM trigger on the P30SK takes some getting used to, but considering the VP9SK is 100% cocked (with no safety), it makes for a great trigger. Thanks for watching.
@brianshuler69512 жыл бұрын
The explanation I have heard is that the extra hardware in the hammer fired system creates a higher bore axis and adds weight versus the striker fired gun. The rear decocker on the standard P30 DA is stiff and awkward for me. Though I haven't shot one, the LEM trigger seems to be an excellent combination of ease of fire and safety in an AIWB hammer fired pistol.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Good explanation. Thanks for watching and adding the info.
@cccalifornia7206 Жыл бұрын
I love them both!!!💖😉🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Do you have the P30L? I prefer the "LEM" TRIGGER!!! 😃👍
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
I do not have the P30L - yet. And I'm still working with the LEM trigger, but not enough to really get use to it. (Too many different guns to test.)
@TheLegoJoker2 жыл бұрын
Before I switched over to 1911s I carried HK LEM pistols. Had them all. P30s, USPs, and HK45s and shot them really well. When that was all I was shooting, I shot them well. When I started shooting SAO, I found that I didn’t shoot the LEMs as well anymore and eventually moved them all along to new homes.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
The LEM is a great idea, but as you found out, it does take some time exclusively on that platform. Thanks for watching.
@czeke7513 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I appreciate your perspective on the triggers. Given your 1911 background, have you considered the HK P30sks? That pistol has a safety and could can be used cocked and locked, allowing you to stay with your normal manual of arms
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
I've looked at the P30 options, but my gun money is pretty tight right now. Thanks for watching.
@josuedominguez7131 Жыл бұрын
with respect to others but the hkp30sk has no comparison
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
After carrying and shooting each gun for a while, I prefer the P30 with the LEM trigger over the VP9SK. Thanks for watching.
@DavidMilesMusic Жыл бұрын
How about the v3 without the lem trigger?
@T.A.B.Videos2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison and thoughts
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
As always, thank you for watching.
@whiteknucklestormchasing7 ай бұрын
2 pros to the VP9 is the trigger and number of holster options from top manufacturers.
@RidersRange7 ай бұрын
Great trigger, but it is 100% cocked. And true about holsters.
@marknomura74532 жыл бұрын
Do you notice any difference in the recoil impulse between the two, given that the P30 has a "taller" (and presumably heavier) slide and higher bore axis?
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Even shooting them side-by-side, I didn't notice any difference.
@DIYDad12 жыл бұрын
Good video comparison! Seems like every video I watch about these two guns people seem to prefer one or the other for different reasons I guess it’s all personal preference as expected. I have both striker fired handguns and DA/SA guns and I really can’t decide which one I want to get next lol guess I’ll just have to shoot both and find out I just wish I could find some more HK’s locally. One thing I’ve noticed about another difference is the VP9 has a deeper undercut behind the grip so it seems like you should be able to get your hand up higher on the grip than the P30 so that might naturally lend itself to be a faster more accurate shooter as well.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and adding your thoughts.
@NitroRoo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison! I have a full size vp9 and have really enjoyed shooting it for the past 5+ years. I rarely carry it due to its size, however, I almost always grab the LCPII due to comfort and convenience. I'm starting to look for something with a bit more power and capacity so naturally I have looked at the VP9SK since I'm very familiar with that platform. The hammer fired LEM trigger of the P30 is intriguing though - it actually seems very similarly to the LCP trigger which also pulls the hammer back with the trigger pull. I'm also looking at the sig P365 which seems to have the size advantage. Tough choice!
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Everything about a defensive firearm is a compromise. You just have to keep shopping until you find the gun that is perfect for you. Thanks for watching.
@DavidMilesMusic Жыл бұрын
Did you decide in the end? I also am choosing
@NitroRoo Жыл бұрын
@@DavidMilesMusic Ended up choosing the P365XL. Great gun!
@jayjuggrnaut Жыл бұрын
I disagree with you regarding the trigger. I own the P30L and SK and think the stock trigger is atrocious, especially in comparison to my Canik Elite Combat and Walther PPQ. I got the Gray Guns trigger kits installed in both guns and the triggers suck 40% less (true statistic) and shooting enjoyment has increased by a comparable number.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about a trigger upgrade for the P30, but remember, this one has the HK LEM trigger, not the usual P30 trigger. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@ThePhilmedina Жыл бұрын
I have the P30sk with Lem, and a gray guns short reset kit. It makes a world of difference. You won't regret it.
@DRAGONRIDER3852 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@josuedominguez7131 Жыл бұрын
hk is the best i have p365 glock pro hk is the best
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.
@robertparis5680 Жыл бұрын
The striker guns most times have a firing in safety or a striker block which is deactivated by the trigger bar when pulled. I was going to the same thing and did switch from an x macro ( because I'm not trusting sigs striker guns.). to a p30 and I'm now contemplating going back to the Stryker just because I can't get used to the LEM trigger, and miss having an optic.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Modern revolvers also have a hammer/firing pin block that keeps the firing pin away from the primer unless the trigger is pulled, but I doubt anyone would carry a cocked revolver, even though they are fine carrying a fully cocked semi-auto with a light trigger. Yes, I know there are literally millions of folks who safely carry fully cocked striker-fired pistols every day without incident. Partially cocked pistols, such as the Glock (no, I'm not a Glock fanboy) are a little more safe than fully cocked pistols, such as the VP9 series. Thanks for watching.
@janpamua77148 ай бұрын
What about da/są version?
@cccalifornia7206 Жыл бұрын
Which Sticcato Pistol model do you carry? CCW?
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
I carry the Staccato C DUO with a Swampfox Sentinel red dot.
@frankbutta93442 жыл бұрын
Very Nice and Great Shooting! I’d take the hammer fired model. 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
I like hammer-fired pistols and I like the LEM trigger on the P30, but I'd have to spend a LOT of time with it to be as proficient with it as I am with too many other guns.
@frankbutta93442 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange I was deadly accurate with my 1911 pistols, but sold all of them except one. Same with Glocks. Deadly at 25 yards, but only have one left (Yvonne still has hers). Edited to Add: 🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼
@waynecastleman13632 жыл бұрын
Good comparison Rider , can I say ambedexrea three times , I don't think I can even spell it right 👍
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I struggled with that word in this video. Maybe too much coffee that morning. As always, thanks for watching.
@waynecastleman13632 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange I think it's just a hard word for most of us lol.
@petergozinya61222 жыл бұрын
Hi there. I must take exception to your description of a striker fired pistol as "fully cocked" at all times. The striker (or firing pin if you prefer) is in the forward uncocked position BEHIND a striker block safety until you start to pull the trigger rearward. The striker begins to become cocked only when the trigger is pulled to the rear. The act of moving the trigger to the rear is what cocks the striker. The striker block safety is also raised out of the way by the pulling of the trigger to the rear. These 2 actions happen simultaneously.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
Peter, thanks for watching and commenting. You are correct about the striker block, which is present in virtually all striker-fired pistols, but you are not correct about the striker not being cocked. The VP9 series has a very visible striker and when the slide is racked you will clearly see the red end of the striker in the fully cocked position under full spring tension. As you press the trigger, you will notice that the striker doesn't move rearward any more than it is before pulling the trigger. So, sorry to burst your bubble, but it is 100% cocked, with no user-operable manual safety. The KZbin channel "Si vis pacem , para bellum" has a great cut-away action of the VP9 and starting at 0:25 in the video and again at 2:35, you can clearly see that the striker is fully cocked under spring tension until it is released by the trigger mechanism.
@petergozinya61222 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange You are right about the VP9. I stand corrected. My statement was based on the Glock design, which I’m most familiar with and who’s striker is cocked by the action of pulling the trigger to the rear. I wrongly assumed that all striker pistols functioned the same. Thanks for educating me. Keep pumping out the videos 👍
@DesignInNature2 жыл бұрын
@@petergozinya6122 Peter. Sorry to have to intrude here and yet again correct you on the Glock design as well. If you look at Glock cutaways you can clearly see the striker is retracted 99.9 % of the way. The striker gets pulled back only 1 or maybe 2 millimeters as you pull the trigger. The Glock striker is fully ready to be slingshot forward at all times when the slide is in the racked position. The striker pin block does have to be moved out of the way simultaneously as the striker is being released in the back all at the same time. But the Glock most definitely does not do any substantial "cocking" of the striker during trigger pull. It's only a tiny hair movement back as the fully cocked striker is simply being released. I handled one of this cutaway Glock 23s in a store when I was getting familiar with their safety mechanisms for carry. The armorer who changed my sights was very gracious with his time in his explanations and hands-on demonstration of the Glock trigger action mechanism. It's all I carry now and love them. Just thought I'd point you to look at the mechanism a little closer in action.
@stevestone56712 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another well done video. I have always been intrigued by the HK models but have a slight preference for other brands. I too have always found it a little unnerving carrying a fully cocked striker with no external safety. Do you know if all striker fired pistols are "fully cocked"? If other brands are "pre-cocked" or "half-cocked" are they any safer?
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
@Steve Stone, thanks for watching and commenting. HK, Canik, Kimber (R7 Mako and EVO, but not the Solo) and many other striker-fired pistols are about 100% cocked. Glocks are somewhere around 85% cocked. Kahr pistols (and I believe the Kimber Solo) aren't cocked, hence the longer double-action-style trigger pull. I carried a Glock of one model or another for 28 years without incident and even carried a G27 inside the waistband and in an ankle holster on occasion and never felt uncomfortable, but I was extremely careful when holstering and only carried in a quality holster. Millions of folks carry all manner of striker-fired pistols safely, but after carrying a 1911 with thumb safety and grip safety for the past 10 years, I'll have to admit I wouldn't carry any striker-fired pistol in the appendix position.
@stevestone56712 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange Thanks Rider. I value your opinion. Keep up the good work.
@stevesiggins6026 Жыл бұрын
I have a P365XL but wanted something a little larger for carrying in my car. I think I like then Sig 320C for that. I also have a VP9 LEM Tactical and a HK45. Still think the Sig would be a better fit for car carry. Thanks for your review. It was helpful.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
If you are use to the P365XL, you will probably like the P320 - maybe even more than HK pistols.
@cody3717 Жыл бұрын
USA sigs are trash. Had a brand new p229R in 357 sig. Extractor broke in less than 500 rounds. That’s what happens when you compromise parts. Unlike H&K No compromise.
@DavidMilesMusic Жыл бұрын
I am trying to decide between a p30sk and a p365xl, whats your opinion if you could only have one?
@PatriotSteve9 ай бұрын
@@DavidMilesMusic Sig has a history of defects. HK by comparison is more reliable.
@Elvis68spec2 жыл бұрын
I may purchase the VP9SK. I'm thinking about it. Good video!
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@jimmysmith3255 Жыл бұрын
Get the optics ready model that way you don't have to buy the full size vp9. I wish the vp9 sk optics ready was available when I bought the full size
@James-Lifts Жыл бұрын
@@jimmysmith3255I just picked up the vp9 sk optics ready, it’s pretty sweet the stock sights are really awesome IMO also
@BlackBirdieGolf5 ай бұрын
What kind of camera is on your hat?
@RidersRange5 ай бұрын
Polaroid XS100i.
@ericw8464 Жыл бұрын
I had the P30SK V1 LEM, and I still have the VP9SK. I prefer the striker fired trigger feel.
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
The VP9SK has a great trigger, but the gun is 100% cocked. The LEM trigger, thought not as "nice", at least is safer than carrying a fully cocked gun that doesn't have a safety. Thanks for watching.
@ericw8464 Жыл бұрын
@Rider's-Range I have no safety concerns with carrying +1 in all my striker handguns. Quality holster that guards the trigger, training, and trigger discipline.
@TheBoxingCannabyte4 ай бұрын
Hk p30 lem with GrayGuns is epic
@RidersRange4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and adding that info.
@bdm1000 Жыл бұрын
3 lb. 7 oz. striker fired trigger? That's a little too light in my opinion. Are you sure that's right?
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
That's from my calibrated Wheeler trigger gauge. I'm fine with a 3.5 pound trigger on a 1911, but I agree that it's a little light for a gun that doesn't have a manual safety.
@calgreco86072 ай бұрын
What about P2000sk? Same size as these two? I want to know which shoots softer? I don't like striker fire triggers with gloves.
@RidersRange2 ай бұрын
I don't own the P2000SK, so I can't talk about how it shoots. As to size, the P2000SK is almost identical to the P30SK and VP9SK. There is a website called handgunhero.com that gives you a side-by-side look at whatever guns you want to compare, as well as all size statistics.
@calgreco86072 ай бұрын
@@RidersRange Which one of yours has less recoil the hammer fired or striker? Thanks for info.
@nhwnhw0221 күн бұрын
The flat side panels are not as perfect feeling as a P30SK or VP9SK. The side panels on both of the latter come with 3 size choices and 3 back strap sizes. So there are many size choices between left, right and back. The P30SK with the LEM trigger is the way to go. LEM may be the worst possible choice of words. Think Geissele SSA-E trigger as it kinda feels like it.
@calgreco860720 күн бұрын
@@nhwnhw02 Thank you.
@Shilohcane2 жыл бұрын
Had me till you said VP9 was a striker fired. No interest in another striker fired pistol
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
To each their own. Thanks for watching.
@rudrashakti108 Жыл бұрын
So get the p30. Do we still have you?
@CuttinInIdaho5 ай бұрын
Let me help you. The distance between the barrel and guide rod is because one is hammer fired and the other is striker. Hammer fired requires more distance between the barrel and guide rod because of the higher bore axis
@RidersRange5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting. The difference between barrel/guid rod is 0.06", hardly enough to make a meaningful difference. Also, the base of the pic-rail on the P30 is thicker than the same area on the VP9SK.
@YangHJinChiritbaRenaissance2 ай бұрын
I'd like to have it all with concealed carry gun license!
@RidersRange2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching.
@zyzzuschrist34102 жыл бұрын
how much was the vp9sk?
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
I paid just under $700 for mine.
@zyzzuschrist34102 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange that's an awesome deal. I just picked up the vp9sk optic ready based on this review. a little over $800. very happy with it.
@Dbshortz4202 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange I found a p30sk for under 700 but the vp9sk I couldn’t find it under 800
@LostintheHate6 ай бұрын
I got my p2000sk lem in .40 for less than 500 shipped with C5L viridian and custom holster
@cyberstreetflips9449 Жыл бұрын
They look practically the same
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
At first glance, yes, and they do take the same magazines. But there are many differences in dimensions and don't necessarily fit the same holsters. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@ljs2274 Жыл бұрын
Can you get LEM trigger after purchase ?
@RidersRange Жыл бұрын
Here's a quote from the HKPro Forum: "There is no LEM kit for the P30 nor is it an approved conversion. This means that you have to source the parts separately AND it will void your pistol's warranty."
@SG-hh9lu3 ай бұрын
That's BS, I have the P30 SK double/single action along with other people I know and there is no problem with accidental shootings and I was with the NYPD for 32 years, so honestly I don't think you know what your talking about. The problems we had was when we went from the S&W Model 10 to the Glock
@RidersRange3 ай бұрын
@SG-hh9lu, I'm sure that you believe you are 100% correct and there has never been an untended second shot with a DA/SA gun and that the cases I am familiar with are all just figments of my imagination. But there is actually a world outside New York. Anyway, thanks for watching.
@SG-hh9lu3 ай бұрын
@@RidersRange , no not 100% correct but close to it, the cases your talking about probably happened with an inexperienced shooter, just like 99% of the so called experts on KZbin never even pulled a gun in self defense let alone shot someone
@AggiePhil4 ай бұрын
Trigger on the VP9 looks like garbage.
@RidersRange4 ай бұрын
Hmmm.....looks are subjective. But the VP9 trigger is one of the better striker-fired triggers on the market. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@MoonInPisces19622 жыл бұрын
I don't own a striker fired handgun. Fully cocked striker fired guns with no external safeties are range guns not carry guns! If I did buy a striker fired gun, I would require a usable external safety - like the P320 military sidearm. As for negligent discharges, I have heard of "GLOCK leg"; but, I have never heard of "DA/SA leg". The only reason that striker fired pistols are so popular is that most shooters do not want to put in the range time to develop the superior discipline needed to effectively shoot DA/SA guns. Also, if a DA/SA gun is poorly designed, the DA trigger reach can be too far for smaller hands. Do yourself a favor. Try to see if you can get used to the H&K LEM trigger. The superior safety of the design is well worth the effort!
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
All good points. Millions of folks carry striker-fired pistols without any issues and I carried a Glock on duty for 24 years (and off duty for the final 10 years on the job). But there are enough documented incidents to make me reconsider. Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.
@HoustonT17 Жыл бұрын
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@johnchristopher202 жыл бұрын
Less graphics, no intro needed, this isn’t TV; we knew what we were clicking on. You might want to come out from behind the fixed camera and start with an explanation of what will be in the video and why… talk slower and pause on occasion.
@RidersRange2 жыл бұрын
@John Christopher, you raise good points. I sincerely appreciate the constructive feedback. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@kevinschmidt75062 жыл бұрын
@@RidersRange I have no opinion regarding the original comment but I actually really appreciate that you responded to this post like this. Don’t see that too often these days.
@KaneGregory Жыл бұрын
For me I would take the P30 but I would take a Walther PDP and the Beretta px4 storm over it and even a Glock for that matter not only are they not comparable to the Walther and the Beretta there below if you want a HK get the USP!🧠🤯🔫