HMS Rodney - Blasting Bismarck and Shore Targets

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Skynea History

Skynea History

8 ай бұрын

One of my longest videos to date, this one.
HMS Rodney, the second of the Nelson-class battleships, was a ship with a long career. A career that was, especially in comparison to other battleships of her vintage, fairly quiet. This is not to say she didn't see combat.
Even ignoring the obvious, with Bismarck, Rodney did see combat.
However, it was largely mundane and not particularly flashy work. As such, she is largely remembered for the engagement with Bismarck and maybe an unfortunate incident with a sheep. A shame, because Rodney has some interesting things to her name.
Hence the length of this video.
Further Reading:
www.amazon.com/HMS-Rodney-Bis...
www.amazon.com/British-Battle...
www.amazon.com/British-Battle...
www.amazon.com/Killing-Bismar...
www.amazon.com/Pursuit-Sinkin...

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@skyneahistory2306
@skyneahistory2306 7 ай бұрын
Ah. We had our first Wehraboo. Was wondering when that would happen. And that, ladies and gentleman, is why I tend to prefer covering the High Seas Fleet.
@murielcunningham8703
@murielcunningham8703 7 ай бұрын
*You have alerted the horde*
@ImportantHistory
@ImportantHistory 7 ай бұрын
Yep! I'm surprised that this is your first encounter with that group of rather fanatical and unsavory individuals.
@johnfisher9692
@johnfisher9692 7 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Wehraboo, a particularly nasty piece of vermin known for it's incoherent screaming about made up "facts" on the alleged superiority of anything German. A screaming that no amount of truth can ever silence or if you present information which cannot be disputed, they create a different fact or excuse. If you believe the Wheraboo no German ship was EVER sunk by enemy action, they all scuttled themselves. Seems sorta cowardly doesn't it, they don't go down fighting, they prepare the scuttling charges as soon as an enemy ship or plane comes into view. Note: I am not insulting the brave crews of German warships but the mindless and rabid Wehraboo who cannot face reality.
@mahbriggs
@mahbriggs 7 ай бұрын
I want to express my appreciation for another fine video!
@colinmartin9797
@colinmartin9797 7 ай бұрын
Aww what did they say? I can't find it. Wanted to see some barking lunatics
@Backwardlooking
@Backwardlooking 7 ай бұрын
My father served on the Rodney during W.W.2. The Chaplain told him that he’d begged the Captain to cease firing on Bismarck to end the suffering. She was a Devonport ship and he’d had to entrain from there to Thurso in Scotland before crossing the ferocious Pentlandite Firth to Scapa Flow, almost the length of the country. Throughout his blacked-out train had to stop because of Luftwaffe bombing. His favourite ship was Rodney’s sister ship Nelson where his watch stopped forever when a torpedo flooded his locker during a Malta convoy run. He also preferred British hammocks at sea to the American bunks aboard the South Dakota on which he served as a R.N. link with our Home Fleet at Scapa.
@daleeasternbrat816
@daleeasternbrat816 7 ай бұрын
The Rodney and Nelson were unique looking and performed well. I built a model of Nelson when I was a kid, in the 60s. Those two ships look like they mean Business. I wish you had kept one. Also Warspite and, of course Vanguard.
@Backwardlooking
@Backwardlooking 7 ай бұрын
@@daleeasternbrat816 We only finished paying back the U.S. our war debt in the early 2000’s. As soon as the war ended the U.S. reversed it’s aid to ourselves unless for cash. We were bankrupted by two World Wars and West Germany was treated to massive U.S. aid to resurrect it’s industrial capacity as a bulwark against communist Russia. By contrast everything here was worn out. No money for new ships so everything not needed was scrapped. Looking back even in the 1970’s we’re we’re still poor by contrast to West Germany and definitely our working class people. I built models of American warships such as South Carolina, Arizona, and an Essex Class carrier. Still have my ration cards for food and sweets from the early 1950’s long after rationing had ceased in West Germany. Ex W.W. 2 Wehrmacht and other ranks received much better pensions than our servicemen. Justice eh?.
@peterlorenzo615
@peterlorenzo615 7 ай бұрын
Amazing inside info
@bennewnham4497
@bennewnham4497 7 ай бұрын
Bismarck sunk the mighty Hood. Once the beast was cornered, the Royal Navy was was not going to stop dealing out some heavy vengeance. Rodney's guns are enormous 16 inch monsters. Bismarck was pounded at point blank range and then pounded again. And then pounded again. Take that you Nazi bastards.
@martinmiller7623
@martinmiller7623 7 ай бұрын
Thanks from missiouri❤
@leeneon854
@leeneon854 7 ай бұрын
What a battleship Rodney was
@evo5dave
@evo5dave 7 ай бұрын
My favourite battleship. The Nelsons had a brutal look about them.
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 7 ай бұрын
Yes. That all the main armament pointed forwards adds a certain ‘je ne sais quoi’.
@orwellboy1958
@orwellboy1958 7 ай бұрын
Brutal but beautiful at the same time.
@derekashwell7064
@derekashwell7064 7 ай бұрын
My father was on the Rodney when they sunk the Bismarck and also on the light cruiser Jamaica when they chased the Scharnhorst up around the North Cape and sunk her. He was in Boston for about 3 months during the refit and said how well he was treated by the US Navy.
@brianprattrockdetective8299
@brianprattrockdetective8299 7 ай бұрын
in
@ToniFromBrooklyn
@ToniFromBrooklyn 7 ай бұрын
Do you know dates of the events you mentioned?
@janb.6194
@janb.6194 7 ай бұрын
Or did the crew of te Bismarck sink the ship ?? according to survivers ??
@alisdairmclean8605
@alisdairmclean8605 7 ай бұрын
My uncle Philip was an engineering officer sometimes in the 30s. He went on to be a naval attache in Tokyo. When WW2 broke out he served as a linguist at Bletchley park.
@mrswinkyuk
@mrswinkyuk 7 ай бұрын
@@Denis.Collins Yes, _very_ easy when you're a keyboard worrior.
@d.olivergutierrez8690
@d.olivergutierrez8690 7 ай бұрын
Honestly her design has grown on me with the pass of time, looked from above she looks like an armored castle, and oh boy, when those guns aim high in the same orientation, gorgeous 👌
@jtd8719
@jtd8719 7 ай бұрын
I'm a simple man: I see HMS Rodney, I click. Rodney and Nelson had the distinction of being the first (and IIRC only) Washington Treaty battleships built by GB. Unlike other nations, the treaty tonnage limitations were actually pretty well observed by GB in their design. They were also among the first major warships of any nation to have 'modern' superstructures, as opposed to their predecessors which had superstructures added as apparent afterthoughts to their masts. GB in WWII is the textbook example of going to war with what you have, rather than with what you want.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 7 ай бұрын
No. The KGVs were also built in according with the Treaty restrictions still applying.
@Chezzers.
@Chezzers. 6 ай бұрын
Us brits have always been sticklers for rules even when we know they're total codswallop. See partygate for a modern equivalent
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 ай бұрын
@@Chezzers. Thank God we are out of it. It's OK for me to fart on a Sunday now.
@AlasdairFord
@AlasdairFord 7 ай бұрын
My grandad told the story of his arrival in Normandy as a 20 year old signaller at Sword beach in the early hours of D Day +2. Rodney was firing her main guns in support of the Eastern flank of the beachhead he said it was difficult to breathe when she let loose, he said it was equally terrifying and awe inspiring and Gave him some comfort that they were pounding the enemy.
@windsorspitfire
@windsorspitfire 7 ай бұрын
With that long low forward half, I think of this as the Jaguar E-type of battleships.
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 7 ай бұрын
For some reason they remind me of an Imperial Star Destroyer from Star Wars..
@dogsbodyish8403
@dogsbodyish8403 6 ай бұрын
True, but reminds me more of the latest US aircraft carriers...
@mbryson2899
@mbryson2899 4 ай бұрын
I was a kid in the early 70s when I first became interested in WWII, thanks to "Sink the Bismarck," "The Battle of the River Plate," and "Tora! Tora! Tora!" Because images of warships were few and far between most of my exposure was limited to plastic models, most particularly 1/700 Waterline kits. The first kit I found was _IJN Tone._ After that a Japanese destroyer _(Fubuki),_ cruiser _(Tama),_ and carrier _(Akagi)._ Then I found the _HMS Rodney._ My friends all thought I was weird, but I had few preconceptions about what warships were "supposed" to look like. I still find the _Rodney_ to be a beautiful ship. 😊
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 7 ай бұрын
As well as the steering, Rodney (and Nelson) both had a problem stemming from the shock of firing their main batteries, in that it broke a lot of the lightning below decks, so they had to have men standing by to replace light bulbs after every salvo. As my late friend Cecil (who served aboard Rodney) said to me "What nobody tells you is that every time they fire them guns, the lights go out !" Incidentally, Rodney was the first battleship sent to Naples after the Germans left, and aimed its guns at the city "in case anyone got any funny ideas". 😊
@doabarrellroll69
@doabarrellroll69 7 ай бұрын
I imagine the shock damage (and Rodney's woes with rough waves) came from the fact the ships were lightly built (they were supposed to be 35,000 tons standard after all, but their builders were instructed to save weight to prevent them from being above the displacement limit, and apparently they did it too well as they came about 1200 tons under the limit).
@Kevin-mx1vi
@Kevin-mx1vi 7 ай бұрын
@@doabarrellroll69 I suspect it also had something to do with nine 16 inch guns being fired in salvo. I mean, that's *a lot* of recoil to deal with !
@Rugbyman269
@Rugbyman269 7 ай бұрын
Is it me , or does the narrator keep saying Romney instead of rodney
@petetimbrell3527
@petetimbrell3527 7 ай бұрын
In 378 shells fired at Bismarck, at 2,048lbs per shell, Rodney threw over 345 tons of projectiles at the enemy - just from the main battery. No wonder she rattled a bit!.
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 7 ай бұрын
@@petetimbrell3527 Oh aye. Pity the sailors with false teeth.
@nnoddy8161
@nnoddy8161 7 ай бұрын
The only class of RN BB/BCs that did not lose one of their class in WWII.
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 7 ай бұрын
If you look at what the RN was dealing with ... They had several Capital Ships being damaged, including _Prince of Wales_ and _Nelson,_ which had to have their combat damage repaired. Then - in the first few years of the war - they lost _Royal Oak, Hood, Prince of Wales, Repulse and Barham._ So - with _Rodney_ mostly suffering only operational casualties, I can see why they just kept patching her up and sending her back out there. Compared to the ships being sunk and those with combat damage which required extensive repair time - they just couldn't afford the time to take her out of service. Here - it should be remembered that they had to deal with the French Navy at one time, then the Italian Navy had a number of Capital Ships and the Germans a few as well. Even if these ships weren't coming out very often to be engaged - the Allies still had to have escorts for their convoys that could deal with them if they did come out. There was at least one convoy the _Scharnhorst_ sisters were turned away from just by the presence of one RN Battleship. The RN Battleship was old and slow and could never have caught them - but - they did not want to close the range with it where it's guns could hit them. So - they left that convoy alone. You don't often hear about RN Capital Ships that were escorting convoys being engaged - but that - is because they were there - the enemy wasn't. With the French, Italians and the Germans maintaining "Fleets in Being" - the RN had to have several times as many ships to be able to put them through deployment cycles so that there were always some available in case the enemy came out. Then the Japanese came out and the RN started losing ships in the Pacific too. Here though - the Americans had a substantial navy in the Pacific so the RN, while there, wasn't needed as much and _mostly_ let the Americans deal with the Japanese. Thus - The Old Work Horse, _Rodney_ - did it's duty and - was there for as long as they needed it until they finally just wore it out. .
@28pbtkh23
@28pbtkh23 7 ай бұрын
I appreciate your paragraph about RN capital ships doing escort duty and of the occasion when the Scharnhorst refused to engage due to an RN battleship being present. I have never seen this discussed before on any TV documentary. It shows the value of deterrence.
@craigy_baby
@craigy_baby 7 ай бұрын
I think it was HMS Ramillies that scared the Scharnhorst off.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 7 ай бұрын
@@craigy_baby Operation Berlin.
@ianseddon9347
@ianseddon9347 7 ай бұрын
Great video! My grandfather was a journeyman cabinet maker in the 1920’s who worked fitting out the Ward Room of Rodney at Cammell Lairds. It was the ‘20s depression and a few bits of mahogany ‘followed him home’ and were made into furniture for their tiny cottage. When I was child I had a Rodney dressing table! I so much wish I still had it! The drawer bottoms and cupboard backs were made from old tea chests with stencilled writing from the Indian plantations they came from. Rodney was the epitome of a faithful servant!
@joselucca2728
@joselucca2728 7 ай бұрын
378 sixteen inch shells and 706 six inch shells fired, Rodney’s captain & crew had an exhausting day.
@mikebrownhill8955
@mikebrownhill8955 7 ай бұрын
Rodney could actually make 25 knots and did frequently during the pursuit of Bismarck. That was with clapped out boilers and a fouled bottom.
@RayyMusik
@RayyMusik 7 ай бұрын
My favorite RN WW2 battleship. She somehow looked much faster than she actually was.
@steveholmes11
@steveholmes11 7 ай бұрын
Very similar profile to an E-Type Jag with that "long bonnet" look.
@bennykoh
@bennykoh 7 ай бұрын
she is my favourite royal navy ship too! even more so than warspite.
@Nastyswimmer
@Nastyswimmer 7 ай бұрын
My dad served on Rodney from 1941. He and one of his mates were escorting a couple of Wrens on a tour of the ship and one of the Wrens pointed at one of the paravane stores and asked what it was. "That's where we keep the chickens" she was told. Her friend pointed at the store on the opposite side and said "I suppose that's where you keep the sheep".
@ernesttravers7517
@ernesttravers7517 7 ай бұрын
An excellent youtube In later marine observations, the Bismark had holes right through her. They could see right through So the German claim of scuttling was the usual German rubbish Will watch any of your other posts Thanks
@stevemull2002
@stevemull2002 7 ай бұрын
My Grandfather was a Chief petty officer, (engine area) i have all his records, he was on the Rodney from 1928-1946/7 but also many other Ships, as he was a Trainer, my Father born in 1933, had Rodney as his middle name, i do have photos, and stuff relating to HMS Rodney,
@robbreeze7599
@robbreeze7599 7 ай бұрын
My father was at Scapa during the “sheep” incident and told me how the crew of his ship (and all the others nearby) did indeed BA at Rodney as they passed. Royal Navy humour at its finest.
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 ай бұрын
It's all that kept the Royal Navy the best the world will ever see.
@per-henrikpersson1884
@per-henrikpersson1884 7 ай бұрын
The most beautyfull UK Batleships ever. ❤️❤️❤️😁👍.
@natashanel1665
@natashanel1665 7 ай бұрын
Including the Bismark Have a model of the Bismark and had one of the Hood as a teenager Beautifull ships
@TheLondonPhoto
@TheLondonPhoto 7 ай бұрын
My grandfather was a Lieutenant Commander on HMS Rodney in 1928. I'm not sure what his role would have been but I've been told that perhaps he would have overseen navigation, gunnery or some other department? He would later Command HMS Codrington (Destroyer) and HMS Speedwell (Minesweeper).
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 5 ай бұрын
Respects to his memory and service.
@MinackerMovies
@MinackerMovies 7 ай бұрын
My father was partly deafened in one ear by Rodney’s guns. He served on an ML which, being a wooden hulled ship had the task to lead the battleships through the magnetic mines to bombard the Normandy coast ready for the landings. When his ML was alongside, Rodney fired her guns. It smashed the bridge roof and hatches of the ML and caused his partial deafness.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 7 ай бұрын
Did he have to wait until state pension age to receive a miserly "partial disability pension" from the UK govt for his permanent partial deafness? As my own father did after narrowly surviving the impact of a "Fritz X" onboard HMS Warspite at Salerno in 1943? Who in their right mind would fight for ANY government nowadays?
@mikebrase5161
@mikebrase5161 7 ай бұрын
​@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684I fought in Iraq and am partially deaf in my left ear and have constant tinnitus. If it was for my Grandfather's generation and then the Vietnam era I don't think I would have the medical that I have today. I'm one of the few US Veterans that doesn't have many bad things to say about our VA. I would however advise any young person not to enlist. The Army and the country is no longer the ones I joined.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 7 ай бұрын
@@mikebrase5161 You're absolutely right saying our country and Govts are no longer what they were.... nowadays youngsters are blatantly fighting solely for the shareholders of Raytheon, McDonnell Douglas & Qinetiq more than they are for the US or UK. (Though if you read Gen Smedley Butler's "war is a racket", you'll see it has been that way for quite some time). I'm glad to hear you were well treated by the US VA as well you should. Here in Britain we had no such organisation and for centuries, those rank & file who had "stood their turn" at the time of the nation's greatest need, were quickly discarded after discharge, if lucky with a few bits of ribbon and metal. Respects for your own service to your country.
@user-cm5qd9gb5z
@user-cm5qd9gb5z 29 күн бұрын
My friend who I was looking after from the Rodney was also nearly totally deaf from the guns. I was forever trying to get new batteries for his hearing aids and conversations were often difficult at times when the batteries went flat. Loss of hearing was probably a common work hazard on the Rodney. Yes, I do also recall that compensation for his service and his deafness from the UK government was very miserly. He also served for a short while in the Australian and New Zealand navies where the pension systems were a bit more generous.
@MinackerMovies
@MinackerMovies 29 күн бұрын
No, no compensation that I knew of.
@user-cm5qd9gb5z
@user-cm5qd9gb5z 6 ай бұрын
A few years ago I was looking after a chap who turned out to be a midshipman on The Rodney. He told me of some amazing adventures during his service on this ship. He was actually acting as a spotter when the Bismark was engaged and was calling the shots. He said it was difficult to tell if the shells were hitting the Bismark due to all of the smoke in the area. He also told me of the time when they were engaged by a Vichy French field gun from the shore during the time of Operation Torch. He was in charge of the the landing party to inspect the damage - needless to say they replied with their 16 inch guns and there was nothing but craters where the French guns had been. He also gave me a photo of a stuka that their new pom pom gun had hit and shot down. This guy was fun to go to the hobby shop with as well. Where we build plastic models of ships and planes from the past, he was actively involved with them - a real legend who has now sadly passed away!
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 5 ай бұрын
Respects to his memory and service, and thank you for relating his tales.
@kumasenlac5504
@kumasenlac5504 7 ай бұрын
There is a story told of HMS Rodney during the follow-up to the Normandy landings. There was a single main gun operating, responding to a succession of identical orders - up ten, fire. Apparently, there was a German despatch rider heading inland who was being followed by a number of very big holes in the road...
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 ай бұрын
They hit a Tiger - deliberately. Lucky ? Of course. Maybe not for those dug in under it though.
@chrisrichmond403
@chrisrichmond403 7 ай бұрын
i am a shareholder / part owner of a diesel locomotive that British Rail Owned was named after the battleship Rodney . Also As a family we owned a ships boat ( Launch ) what was allocated to KGV even during the Bismarck battle way back in the boats life .
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 7 ай бұрын
Ah yes. 50021/D421.. We spotters thought that they were rather elegant locomotives when they appeared on the West Coast Main Line in the late sixties, but we never really liked them because we blamed them (yes, I know wrongly, but we were only kids) for the loss of our beloved Stanier, Ivatt, and Riddles products. After all, you could never take home a piece of coal from a 50, like you could from a Black 5 or a Big 8!
@alephalon7849
@alephalon7849 7 ай бұрын
When storms and her own guns do more damage to Rodney than air attacks and a battle with Bismarck, that surely counts as a form of luck.
@anthonycollingridge970
@anthonycollingridge970 7 ай бұрын
Many years ago I have a conversation with one of the engineers that was involved in the construction of Rodney. He recalled that during the machining of the turret rings, the swarf coming off the cutting tool was white hot. Impressive given that the ring was turning at about 6 revolutions per minute.
@dogsbodyish8403
@dogsbodyish8403 7 ай бұрын
Pity she couldn't have been preserved as an important piece of history. Excellent video - thanks!
@carlnordstrom7533
@carlnordstrom7533 7 ай бұрын
My father was in the USN and stationed at the Boston Naval Yard and was assigned to repair Rodney. My memory is sketchy from the years but what I remember him saying is one of the main guns sunk one or two decks from damage because the number of shells fired and that it was firing flat. The other thing he said was it was the messiest ship he ever saw, but commented the British were fighting a war so it was understandable.
@benconway9010
@benconway9010 7 ай бұрын
What do you mean messiest ship?
@craigmoloney4486
@craigmoloney4486 7 ай бұрын
Well the Americans had the advantage of sitting back and watching the first nearly two and a half years of the war mate.
@jpaulc441
@jpaulc441 7 ай бұрын
To be honest most WW2 era ships looked kind of haphazard below the decks. Imagine the smell in hot climates like the Pacific war.
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 ай бұрын
Not that ANY American battleships EVER fought another battleship. If I'm wrong, sorry, but please post the data sauce.
@craigmoloney4486
@craigmoloney4486 6 ай бұрын
Yes that's true So was Australia were I'm from. And many other countries around the world
@imeatingtoast
@imeatingtoast Ай бұрын
My great grandfather was on the Rodney and he's not around anymore to tell me his story, so thank you 🙇
@lyedavide
@lyedavide 7 ай бұрын
It's such a shame that Rodney never got the attention she deserved in keeping her battle worthy. I would say that she contributed more than Nelson in spite of that. Thanks for another great video!
@Bruce-1956
@Bruce-1956 7 ай бұрын
There is a photo on internet of, Rodney, Revenge and Nelson berthed next to each other being scrapped at Wards, Inverkeithing. It is a sad sight to see these magnificent ships being broken up.
@AnonNomad
@AnonNomad 7 ай бұрын
The old breaker's yard is still there in Inverkeithing, but only the structure. Nothing left that signifies it's the place where HMS Nelson and Rodney met their end.
@Bruce-1956
@Bruce-1956 7 ай бұрын
@@AnonNomad I past it at the beginning of the year. My father's last ship was scrapped there in the early 70s, HMS Aisne.
@dogsbodyish8403
@dogsbodyish8403 6 ай бұрын
Yes indeed - and we should have kept one of them (Rodney, of course, with her historic roles).
@Themanwiththeplan1899
@Themanwiththeplan1899 6 ай бұрын
In hindsight, it’s a big loss, but we had a country to rebuild
@Bruce-1956
@Bruce-1956 6 ай бұрын
@@Themanwiththeplan1899 you must be pretty old if you helped to rebuild the country.
@raverdeath100
@raverdeath100 7 ай бұрын
the Nelson and Rodney were also known as the "Cherry Tree" class - cut down by Washington (Naval Treaty)
@CannonRanger2023
@CannonRanger2023 7 ай бұрын
Tough little ship. Against all problems she still lined up to fulfill her tasks.
@jefftarwood4594
@jefftarwood4594 7 ай бұрын
Little?
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 7 ай бұрын
“Little”
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 7 ай бұрын
Careful…
@hellomoto2084
@hellomoto2084 2 ай бұрын
LITTLE ? , you okay buddy ?
@darrensmith6999
@darrensmith6999 7 ай бұрын
I think they are rather handsome ships, they remind me of Star Destroyers from Star Wars (:
@public.public
@public.public 7 ай бұрын
I met a HMS Rodney veteran of the attack on Bismark and he said the biggest mistake the Navy made was putting him and his mate in charge of the tombola.
@MrT67
@MrT67 7 ай бұрын
Regardless of what anyone says about Rodney, she obviously had very good gun crews and effective guns. It took her no time at all to find the effective range on Bismarck. It would have been interesting if she had got to trade blows with Tirpitz.
@Shadooe
@Shadooe 7 ай бұрын
I recall reading somewhere (but not where) that Nelson and Rodney were also called "The Pair of Boots"
@TTTT-oc4eb
@TTTT-oc4eb 7 ай бұрын
“Nelsol” and “Rodnol” - because they looked like angry oil tankers.
@1982nsu
@1982nsu 7 ай бұрын
I heard that as well.
@MrT67
@MrT67 7 ай бұрын
Yep I've read that also.
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 7 ай бұрын
The Nelsons each, in fact, displaced just under 34,000 tons 'STANDARD' (the applicable measure set at Washington with an upper limit of 35,000 tons). At full load, the Nelsons actually displaced around 40,000 tons each
@jp-um2fr
@jp-um2fr 6 ай бұрын
Please note the references this data comes from.
@squirepraggerstope3591
@squirepraggerstope3591 6 ай бұрын
@@jp-um2fr There are 'umpteen' references that give such data and which set is applicable depends primarily on the relevant dates cited, as like most large naval vessels, these battleships' displacement tended to increase over their service lives as successive modifications were made.
@urseliusurgel4365
@urseliusurgel4365 7 ай бұрын
The nickname was 'Queen Anne's Mansion', which was a bulky tower block of flats (apartments) in Westminster, London. The bridge structures on the Nelson class were far larger and more blocky than any that preceded them.
@wildcolonialman
@wildcolonialman 7 ай бұрын
Fabulous effort. Thank you. Huge interest in this history.
@johnmorris7815
@johnmorris7815 7 ай бұрын
My father served on Rodney from 42 till he demobbed in 46, he did everything from Atlantic convoys to Baltic convoys including D day.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 7 ай бұрын
Sincere "hat off" to his service and memory.
@brianomalley7501
@brianomalley7501 7 ай бұрын
You out did your self on this one absolutely grade A stuff i am very impressed at your hard work i don't know you find enough time plus everything else in your life i find it gift god gave you onçe again thank you for sharing it with us your unbelievable kind by doing so l am very busy my selfand i love naval history but don't have enough time to research my self so i want to thank you words can't say enough
@warp9p659
@warp9p659 7 ай бұрын
An excerpt from the Rodney's wartime record as found in Admiralty records: "At 1200 hours RODNEY, SOMALI, TARTAR and MASHONA detached and proceeded on a generally south western course in accordance with the assumption that BISMARCK was heading for France. After detaching RODNEY worked up to speeds that she had not achieved for many years. Which considering RODNEY had not received any significant mechanical repairs/refurbishment for three years, all recent repairs had been carried out solely to keep her in service. Her boilers were defective and leaking steam and her turbines and prop shafts were worn. RODNEY ploughed on through heavy seas and gradually her three escorting destroyers fell behind."
@MrT67
@MrT67 7 ай бұрын
The Rodney is the one ship I wish GB had retained as a museum ship. Great career and service by all who sailed on her.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 7 ай бұрын
No. HMS Warspite had more merit.
@MrT67
@MrT67 7 ай бұрын
@@dovetonsturdee7033 My argument isn't purely based on merit or some kind of ranking. Absolutely Warspite had the most distinguished career of all RN ships. But she also had a hell of alot more money thrown at her. Rodney was sadly neglected in that respect. It could be argued that Rodney probably gave the best bang for buck of any WWII RN ship. Anyhow, my statement was purely based on my liking the Rodney and that she played a pretty major role on her own account.
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 7 ай бұрын
@@MrT67 Fair enough, but HMS Rodney never generated the amount of affection within the fleet that The Old Lady did.
@jeffblacky
@jeffblacky 7 ай бұрын
I got a couple of actual pictures of the Rodney being scraped Two that never seen before
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 7 ай бұрын
A beast of a BB for sure with unique battle lines!
@KeithJohnson.
@KeithJohnson. 7 ай бұрын
Queen Anne’s Mansions, it’s a British joke that the superstructure looked like the block of flats of the same name built in Westminster in 1905
@stephenbesley3177
@stephenbesley3177 7 ай бұрын
My sisters Father-in-law served on the Rodney. He's gone now but was as deaf as a post which was normal for old sailors who served on those big battleships.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 7 ай бұрын
Not just battleships 40 years ago I went round the submarine museum at Gosport and our guide was an old submariner. Seeing the banks of diesels in the engine room I asked what it was like with these running? He said bloody awful how do you think I got these indicating old fashioned hearing aids in each ear.
@jonathanhicks140
@jonathanhicks140 7 ай бұрын
I once surveyed a house for a mortgage lender in the late 1990’s, the owner was a man in his late 80’s - still mentally sharp but as deaf as stone. He explained that he had been an anti aircraft gunner on the Russian (arctic) convoys in WW2 & had been completely deaf since then. He showed me his scrapbook with photos from after an aircraft attack by the Luftwaffe, the deck was covered completely in a mixture of 4(?) inch & 40 mm Bofors shell casings with 20mm & .303” cases filling up any minor gaps. No hearing protection, crewing & firing an anti aircraft weapon for extended periods day after day, no wonder he was deaf! In times when they weren’t under aerial attack they were swinging sledge hammers to break the ice off the decks & superstructure to prevent the ship from capsizing if it rolled too far in the constant storms up there. Brave man, he deserved far more recognition than he (& all his comrades at the time) ever received.
@freebeerfordworkers
@freebeerfordworkers 7 ай бұрын
I also knew a veteran of the Russian convoys in the 1960s. He was a strong supporter of Russia was a sincere communist but he said the one Russian convoy he did was so awful he seriously thought of deserting rather than do another. The worst thing he saw was a ship that had been torpedoes and sinking and they didn't dare stop to help the crew. You could see the men walking round on deck uninjured but they were already dead men.@@jonathanhicks140
@ronhall9394
@ronhall9394 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, anybody working on artillery sized equipment is going to suffer hearing loss, especially the cavalier way (fair enough if your country is fighting for its life) the MOD treats such piffling matters. I was in the RA (Territorials) from 1979 to 2000 and initially I had to buy my own ear defenders, I bought them from a cracking gunshop at the bottom of Grey St in Newcastle - Bagnell and Kirkwood. Yes Sir, how can I help? Ear defenders please? Yes sir - what type of shooting are we looking at? err 5.5 inch? Didn't bat an eyelid and fished outa pair of foldable olive green ear protectors. Good shop that.
@charliecharliecharliecharl8554
@charliecharliecharliecharl8554 2 ай бұрын
Really good looking ship and that block citidel when all other ship pretty much look the same
@justinhessey9032
@justinhessey9032 7 ай бұрын
Some nice camo shots in this one. Thanks
@Caktusdud.
@Caktusdud. 7 ай бұрын
I like how you talk about these ships. Admittedly not the only and certainly not the first to talk about ships this way. (I.E as a person) But its still nice. Poor Rodney, she's just crying for her refit. Its a shame really. Now this next part is something else. You've already done videos and lexington and saratoga however... I recently got my hands on a couple books talking about them in great detail with who knows how many images. From design (to some degree), construction and service. You've also talked about how they have a long list of firsts. I want to add that, I believe they are looked at the wrong way. Most people (understandably) look at their wartime service and think, "meh they're ok" But i believe that their golden times were actually in the pre war years. When you consider the global state of things. These ships could be described as inspiring if that. People loved them, or at least their public image was overall quite positive. They served the people in very interesting and then unique ways. They were establishing the foundation of what would be carrier operations. They hold special titles and broke records. Saratoga caught a shark in 1930 for example. I would like to see a video going into more detail about that. Its very interesting and as mentioned earlier, inspiring.
@colinmartin2921
@colinmartin2921 7 ай бұрын
Sheep were never safe when Rodney was in port.
@28pbtkh23
@28pbtkh23 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video on a fascinating ship. It seems that the North Atlantic really took its toll on HMS Rodney.
@TrickiVicBB71
@TrickiVicBB71 7 ай бұрын
Scheer vs 16inch guns would have turned her into scrap metal
@jamesgoacher1606
@jamesgoacher1606 7 ай бұрын
A wonderful video, thankyou.
@ross.venner
@ross.venner 7 ай бұрын
7:54 - Was that the time that Nelson ran onto the Hamilton Bank outside Portsmouth? Nelson on Hamilton, again...
@rygneisanau1724
@rygneisanau1724 3 ай бұрын
amazing Channel love to Build model ships while listening and watching at the same time :)
@iainpaton1865
@iainpaton1865 7 ай бұрын
Keep the great videos coming friend from Scotland 😊
@jsr1234
@jsr1234 2 күн бұрын
Amongst all the guff written about the action against Bismarck it's often forgotten that Bismarck's much vaunted and fully serviceable main armament and fire control failed to land a single significant hit on either RODNEY or KING GEORGE V. Not with a bang but a whimper.
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 11 сағат бұрын
Not serviceable for long. All main battery turrets were knocked out by the end of the first half hour.
@michaelellis6847
@michaelellis6847 6 ай бұрын
My Dad was a chief petty officer on the rodney during the sinking of the Bismarck. He was in the armored tower at the time of the battle. Was amazed at the size and beauty of the bismarck.
@Tony-pk6ql
@Tony-pk6ql 7 ай бұрын
Great video.
@jpaulc441
@jpaulc441 7 ай бұрын
13:51 "Grandpa, what did you do during the war?"
@vernsmart5447
@vernsmart5447 7 ай бұрын
Interesting history of a warship.
@thatwormhole1760
@thatwormhole1760 7 ай бұрын
Yknow it’s a good day when skynea posts
@roconnor01
@roconnor01 7 ай бұрын
I lived near the shipyard where 'Rodney' was built.
@BlindMansRevenge2002
@BlindMansRevenge2002 7 ай бұрын
One question that always comes across my mind is why Nelson and Rodney we’re not taking in for major, upgrading and rework. Once the escalator clause was triggered with a Japanese trashing, the London naval treaty.
@B52Stratofortress1
@B52Stratofortress1 7 ай бұрын
Because they were the newest ships the RN had. Rebuilding the WW1 era ships was more important. Had war occurred, the RN needed these ships available
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 7 ай бұрын
Time
@dovetonsturdee7033
@dovetonsturdee7033 7 ай бұрын
The RN began a programme of modernisation of the battlefleet in the mid 1930s. The 'R' class were to be replaced by the KGVs, so the programme began with the Queen Elizabeths and Renown. As only two were to be withdrawn at the same time, only Warspite, Renown, Valiant & Queen Elizabeth had been completed by 1940. Had there been no war, the next would have been Malaya, Barham, Repulse, and Hood. The Nelsons were newer, and more capable, ships.
@peterwright4647
@peterwright4647 7 ай бұрын
How does a sailor find a lost sheep??? Very satisfying.
@bret9741
@bret9741 12 күн бұрын
I still can’t believe that the British didn’t manage to save one of its WW2 Battleships for a museum.
@stargazer5784
@stargazer5784 19 сағат бұрын
The British were so deeply in debt after the war that they desperately needed every penny that they could get, even if that meant scrapping everything. Sad but true. That being said, the British government was notorious for being short sighted. Battleships cost alot of money to maintain, even as museum ships, but they cost even more to replace.
@spanishpeaches2930
@spanishpeaches2930 7 ай бұрын
Her sister ship should really have been called HMS DelBoy.
@TrickiVicBB71
@TrickiVicBB71 7 ай бұрын
My favorite british ship
@johngregory4801
@johngregory4801 7 ай бұрын
"1934 - HMS Nelson declares war on the seabed, HMS Rodney takes over as flagship until Nelson is repaired."
@WildBillCox13
@WildBillCox13 7 ай бұрын
Rudder problems . . . Bismarck, we hardly knew ye.
@Pimthrow
@Pimthrow 7 ай бұрын
Still looks like something pretty modern.
@rodneymcgovern5984
@rodneymcgovern5984 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! Compared to the ships built before and after them, the "Nelsons" were a very progressive shape, and a design layout copied by the French navy. And what do modern ships look like? Rodney and Nelson!
@hellomoto2084
@hellomoto2084 2 ай бұрын
​@@rodneymcgovern5984modern oil tankers look like those , not the modern warships.
@Kw1161
@Kw1161 7 ай бұрын
Rodney just didn’t get the proper respect….as Mr Dangerfield could testify…😂!
@graham2631
@graham2631 7 ай бұрын
Wonder where they found the piano.
@user-he9yp3nx7m
@user-he9yp3nx7m 2 ай бұрын
It may be very efficient but that is one Ugly as hell ship
@anthonylowder6687
@anthonylowder6687 7 ай бұрын
I noticed at time index 19:12 that the pic of King George V there seems to be significant bow damage what is the story about that?
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 7 ай бұрын
During one of the "PQ" Murmansk convoys in May 1942, KGV was escorting the convoy through thick fog, with her destroyer screen providing support. A lookout one of the destroyers, (the "tribal" class destroyer HMS Punjabi), spotted a floating seamine, the captain ordered an emergency turn to avoid, but in doing so passed directly infront of HMS KGV which then sliced Punjabi in two killing 49 of its crew. The damage you see is as a result of that collision.
@lesleymay8006
@lesleymay8006 7 ай бұрын
My father in law served on Rodney as a petty officer
@HemlockRidge
@HemlockRidge 7 ай бұрын
Her style puts me in mind of a Jaguar XKE.
@TheRcgordon
@TheRcgordon 7 ай бұрын
Yes iconic ships
@JackSmith-hx8zh
@JackSmith-hx8zh 7 ай бұрын
Sometimes being honest isn't the best policy, as with treaty ships.
@georgeallen7101
@georgeallen7101 7 ай бұрын
Is that image Rodney ? I can only see two turret’s????
@robertewing3114
@robertewing3114 7 ай бұрын
ABC returned to Rodney from sailing carrying his trousers on his arm. Famous moments indeed.
@kwolfdan3976
@kwolfdan3976 6 ай бұрын
An old lady trying to do her best..and she did while she barely recieved some upgrades..
@TillyOrifice
@TillyOrifice 7 ай бұрын
I like Nelson and Rodney, particularly Rodney. they share the distinction of being possibly the silliest looking genuinely good ships of the 20th century.
@MrT67
@MrT67 7 ай бұрын
That's a great description mate 😁 I personally think that it was deliberate. None of the enemy took her seriously until the 16" guns started up.
@mikebrownhill8955
@mikebrownhill8955 7 ай бұрын
The Stoker must have been Welsh.
@georgewallis7802
@georgewallis7802 7 ай бұрын
lovely old oil tanker that, despite the poor sheep 🤔
@michaeldantoni4292
@michaeldantoni4292 4 сағат бұрын
She blasted Bismarck, but couldn't sink Bismarck.
@johncaldwell-wq1hp
@johncaldwell-wq1hp 7 ай бұрын
THAT INCIDENT WITH THE SHEEP.--ARE YOU SURE THAT'S ILLEGAL ???
@NorceCodine
@NorceCodine 6 ай бұрын
Bismarck's crew was very young and there are reports that training was minimal, in particular anti-aircraft training. This seems to support that Bismarck couldn't score a hit on Rodney, despite its superior targeting system and gun range. Rodney would have been very vulnerable to plunging fire, with its lack of superstructure over the deck to absorb the damage, and probably that's why the captain was eager to close the distance to Bismarck. Rodney, because of its peculiar design, was less vulnerable close-up than at a distance.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 5 ай бұрын
Rodney was more heavily armoured than Bismarck in ALL respects.
@user-cm5qd9gb5z
@user-cm5qd9gb5z 28 күн бұрын
My friend from the Rodney told me the reason the British won the fight was because there were much better officers in the Royal Navy. He was telling me the first salvo fired at the Rodney from Bismark fell short then the second one fell long. The Germans then had their range, which the Captain of the Rodney realised - he manoeuvred the ship to alter the range and the next salvo fell where the ship would have been prior to the manoeuvre, thus preventing getting hit and damaged. Very clever tactics.
@NorceCodine
@NorceCodine 27 күн бұрын
@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Rodney was almost half the weight of Bismarck, LOL.
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684
@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 27 күн бұрын
@@NorceCodine That's why she was a MUCH more efficient design. Heavier weight of firepower too !!!
@mikearmstrong8483
@mikearmstrong8483 11 сағат бұрын
​@@NorceCodine Either quit listening to nazi fanboy bar talk, or learn how to do math, because that statement was ridiculous nonsense.
@DaveSCameron
@DaveSCameron 7 ай бұрын
My maternal grandparents lived on Rodney Street. ⚓
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 7 ай бұрын
Possibly named after Admiral Rodney (1718-92), namesake of HMS Rodney - a most aggressive individual.
@DODO-vy6sf
@DODO-vy6sf 7 ай бұрын
Queen Ann's mansion is a FACE, with eyes and nose - a calm metal face.
@steveclarke6257
@steveclarke6257 7 ай бұрын
23kts the RN laughter at looking at a "published speed"........and tell the Germans that in the Bismarck chase where they clocked out a battleship "with worn out machinery" doing 25+kts.
@ryanfowler506
@ryanfowler506 7 ай бұрын
Were they ever able to confirm the torpedo hit from Rodney on the wreck of the Bismarck
@adamcarreras-neal4697
@adamcarreras-neal4697 7 ай бұрын
When Cameron the film director went down he only covered around 8% of the hull. He says not, but there's 92% left to check.
@28pbtkh23
@28pbtkh23 7 ай бұрын
@@adamcarreras-neal4697 - also, much of the hull must be buried in mud.
@daneelolivaw602
@daneelolivaw602 7 ай бұрын
@@28pbtkh23 It Is, past what would have been the waterline.
@psikogeek
@psikogeek 7 ай бұрын
Sheep. Scotland. Of course.
@restitvtororbis5330
@restitvtororbis5330 7 ай бұрын
They say that the Scottish were the first to realize that sheep intestines could be used for birth control. The English would later realize that they could be removed and made into condoms
@alanjm1234
@alanjm1234 7 ай бұрын
9 x 16 inch guns, all firing forward. That's serious.
@marcbiff2192
@marcbiff2192 7 ай бұрын
You can see my town in the first photo,and the trees are still there in the background.
@robertcottam8824
@robertcottam8824 7 ай бұрын
Are there many sheep in the area?
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