Hey Drach, nice simple question, have there ever been any battles between hugely mismatched opponents, for example age of sail vs pre Dreadnoughts. Many thanks and stay safe during the WuFlu
@limaboy30654 жыл бұрын
Hi Drachinifel! My Grandfather is a U.S Navy veteran who served aboard the USS Galveston (CLG 3) during the Cuban Missile Crisis. He is turning 80 this year and I want to do something special for his birthday. I know he watches your videos so could you, during a drydock episode, give a quick run through of the USS Galveston including its: specifications, history, and how it was converted into a guided missile cruiser. (My Grandfather’s name is Al by the way.)
@doomge25924 жыл бұрын
Could have a dynamite cruiser concept been efective in ww1/ww2 if it had all of the problems ironed out ?
@joshthomas-moore26564 жыл бұрын
What would you name the other two ships of your Thunderchild class?
@dejangabrovsek65344 жыл бұрын
How much wood was on warship of ww1, ww2 era?
@TheArtilleryman4 жыл бұрын
Thunderchild's armour composition: 25% Harvey armour 75% Pure sheer hatred and anger
@catfish5524 жыл бұрын
Local torpedo ram literally too angry to die!
@nk_33324 жыл бұрын
You forgot 10% tea and 30% Stiff Upper Lip
@riderstrano7834 жыл бұрын
Rip and tear, until it is done
@TonboIV4 жыл бұрын
Is that you Grenville?
@yuyuyu254 жыл бұрын
Hate the alien. Kill the alien.
@wbnc664 жыл бұрын
Martian Commander: one of these primitive things destroyed three of my War Machines...and allowed a fleet of survivors to escape....what can go wrong next... Martian Subordinate:
@Joisey114 жыл бұрын
Hilarious! Help us, Corona Chan, you're our only hope...against Mars.
@epiendless11284 жыл бұрын
"I say, our last invastion came a cropper in the _most_ disgusting manner. What chance might we have for a future endevour?" "Well, Your Supreme Squidliness, the humans of their 20th century appear to be undergoing a revolution in antibiotics. We estimate they will have effectively exterminated disease organisms sufficiently for Round Two by, say, 2020?"
@davidbarton60954 жыл бұрын
To funny, and apt.
@drivernjax4 жыл бұрын
Never, EVER ask, "What can go wrong next?" You'll always find out.
@vvarx4 жыл бұрын
@@epiendless1128 'Your Supreme Squidliness' made me chuckle far more than it should have.
@Grymbaldknight4 жыл бұрын
*Tripod:* _"Surrender, Terran vessel! We have you outnumbered three to one!"_ *HMS Thunderchild:* _"Then it is a fair fight. Prepare for ramming speed!"_
@shayak32364 жыл бұрын
Very 40k
@TheOneLichemperor4 жыл бұрын
_Drive me closer!_
@shayak32364 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneLichemperor I WANNA HIT EM WITH MA SWORD!
@Grymbaldknight4 жыл бұрын
@@TheOneLichemperor Life is the Emperor's currency. Spend it well. ;)
@AlistairAi4 жыл бұрын
I might sound like a heretic here but when I think of someone shouting "PREPARE FOR RAMMING SPEED", I immediately think of when Worf shouts it in First Contact
@InchonDM3 жыл бұрын
What I also love, is that the Thunderchild's success against technologically superior opponents would almost certainly mean that her design would continue on in naval circles for at least another design cycle. So there would absolutely be Superthunderchilds in World War I.
@shp274933 жыл бұрын
The appearance of aliens might put a bit of a barrier against world war preparations.
@mirandalockey73342 жыл бұрын
If the thunderchild did that, imagine the hms dreadnought, or the uss Iowa, or a modern missile cruiser!
@ActiveGamer30002 жыл бұрын
Or the yamato
@guilhermehank49382 жыл бұрын
@@mirandalockey7334 the problem is that modern adaptations cheat by having the aliens have some sort of invisible shield that can just tank anything cuz alien tech
@limymage91862 жыл бұрын
@@shp27493 not in the same way it happened but humans are kinda drawn to war. Ww1 probably wouldn't happen but thered most certainly still be wars, and alien technology appearing as a potential resource would just incentives more fighting because everyone would want a piece of it, or Britain would continue to research it to us against everyone else. Massacre of mankind actually has an interesting look at how the world might look after the invasion if you're ever interested
@PhoenixT703 жыл бұрын
The _Thunderchild_ is a message to all proponents of energy weapons everywhere. The lesson is simple: your lasers will never trump our high-velocity rocks.
@IshijimaKairo2 жыл бұрын
Think fast, chucklenuts! *builds Ironclad equipped with laser cannons that can tear through modern ships like a hot knife through paper*
@thewinterlord15182 жыл бұрын
The aliens from Turtledove’s Worldwar saga learned it the hard way when their spaceship was smashed to pieces by a railway gun shell.
@aburninglandfillofbadmovie29302 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong, beams are great in the right sort of a battle, but beams have one huge weakness that rocks don't. Every particle a beam passes through weakens it a tiny bit because a tiny piece of energy the size of 1 particle is absorbed by each particle a beam passes through. Beams, great for space and high stratosphere combat, not so much for planet-surface combat.
@FuelDropforthewin Жыл бұрын
Ways to beat beams: Thick Smoke. Heavy Mist. Dust Clouds. Smoke launchers are already a defensive tech we possess, and would be extremely effective against laser weapons.
@Ozraptor4 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much the final battle of Space Battleship Yamato 2199. The Yamato and Dessler's vastly superior flagship find themselves face-to-face in an environment where the performance of energy weapons are severely degraded. So the Yamato crew break out the WW2 surplus 46-cm shells and lets her rip.
@redactedredacted40803 жыл бұрын
Drach: makes a actually useful torpedo ram. British Admiralty: you were not supposed to do that.
@alexhunt78104 жыл бұрын
Drach: So, I got to thinking. [somewhere on Mars]: Oh no.
@jlvfr4 жыл бұрын
:D
@Delgen19514 жыл бұрын
Rabbits!!!!
@jamespocelinko1044 жыл бұрын
HMS Thunderchild: Finally! A worthy opponent! Our battle will be LEGENDARY!!!
@Briskyyy4 жыл бұрын
The second I came across this comment he said that
@foradain52114 жыл бұрын
@Joel Smith Year of the Angry Rabbit, by Russell Braddon. Rabbits the size of Alsatians (a breed of dog with which I am not familiar, but maybe German Shepherd sized?) and all being infected with a super-myxomatosis that, alas, does not kill the rabbits, just makes them means and vicious.
@richardkotorac54234 жыл бұрын
She may be a fictional ship, But she sure acted like a real ship in the RN .
@m0nkEz4 жыл бұрын
Because she exploded?
@Mirageknight21334 жыл бұрын
@@m0nkEz Ah yes, nothing says glorious ship of the Royal Navy like *M A G A Z I N E D E T O N A T I O N*
@CiZX6364 жыл бұрын
There are 2 types of people in this comment thread lmao
@TheArgieH4 жыл бұрын
Yes, did for three tripods and completed her mission successfully much was to screen the escape of the merchant shipping.
@joeblow96574 жыл бұрын
She had more courage than Beatty at Jutland
@Deevo0374 жыл бұрын
HMS Enterprise: "Tough little ship." HMS Thunderchild: "Little?"
@LeandraF1092 жыл бұрын
Strange thing is, there was a HMS (USS) Thunderchild in that battle, it was just an Akira class, not the Defiant
@davidvanhorn3340 Жыл бұрын
IJN Yamato: "Hold my beer"
@joshuahadams Жыл бұрын
@@LeandraF109the Akiras having _fifteen_ torpedo launchers and lack of secondary hull seems like it was designed with the HMS Thunderchild’s description in mind.
@davecrupel2817 Жыл бұрын
@@LeandraF109RIP the fallen at Sector 001. o7
@theboard608211 ай бұрын
@@LeandraF109 Built at Mars specifically to act as part of an anti-invasion defense force, at that. Someone at Utopia Planitia knew what they were doing.
@thewildcolonialboy80344 жыл бұрын
Martians: HAHA! WE BLEW UP ITS ENGINE! IT'S DEAD IN THE WATER! Thunder Child: I didn't hear no bell.
@MissIvoryBАй бұрын
Tripod "HOW ARE YOU STILL MOVEING!?!" thunder child "SPITE"
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment4 жыл бұрын
Drach: "What exactly was HMS Thunderchild?" H.G. Wells: *Yes*
@stevef014 жыл бұрын
April Fool Ship MK1 ?
@jimtalbott95354 жыл бұрын
@@stevef01 MK2 - MK 1 was the HMS By Jove
@VintageCarHistory4 жыл бұрын
@@stevef01 No. This wasn't the April Fools video. That would be the Emperor Class- guide 40,000 which is here- kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3SUoJJvqKykoaM This was taken with much seriousness.
@Feiora4 жыл бұрын
Where's the rest of your fragments? They must be really lonely...
@williampaz20924 жыл бұрын
According to H. G. Wells HMS Thunderchild was a “Torpedo Ram”: basically a very fast gunboat with a ram built into it’s bow and one or two torpedo tubes built into it’s hull but facing forward.
@LSeverusPertinax3 жыл бұрын
What is not widely known is that many of the Tripods were later Re-Purposed and mounted on British Dreadnought battleships. Unfortunate, they never figured out how to get the Heat Rays working again, despite admiral Fisher's best efforts.
@SpaceBattleshipYamato-mu9xp3 жыл бұрын
damn...
@DeamonicCultist3 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/d17Qgn-ppcmZmqM I was working on an RTS based on that idea over lockdown
@dupplinmuir1132 жыл бұрын
Well, except for the one on Warspite, which allowed her to destroy everything in her path!
@bigships2 жыл бұрын
@@dupplinmuir113 pitty she wasn’t sent with repulse and Prince of wales Ha Ha aircraft go boom boom boom- **alternate universe warspite probably**
@aztec0112 Жыл бұрын
IIRC each attempt to reactivate the Heat-Ray resulted in self destruction with loss of life.
@camdenmcandrews4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! You've manged to develop the entire history and even the budgetary problems from just a few lines from a novel, and al the parts fit! H. G. Wells would be so proud!
@claypidgeon48074 жыл бұрын
I refuse to believe that this ship wasn’t blasting Rule Brittania as it went out on its blaze of glory using microphones powered by its sheer manliness.
@johncunningham69282 жыл бұрын
Or 'Hearts of Oak', of course...
@colinshaw13303 жыл бұрын
As an ex navy man who served on real steam powered ships the position of the shafting places the engine room more forward than the position of the funnel traditionally allows, unless the boiler room was aft of the engine room feeding steam forwards! This design would further protect the bridge from a boiler room explosion additionally if she was using turbines and superheated steam she would be able to use the decay heat after the boiler explosion to maintain way. An excellent video.
@The_cestelin_Holland Жыл бұрын
I guess you were on a Iowa class
@oslo66613 жыл бұрын
My thoughts on this: Bear in mind that the the War of the Worlds was published in 1896. Two years earlier, in 1894, saw the launch of Turbinia, the first ever turbine powered ship with the (at the time) unprecedented top speed of 35kts. Now, OK, Turbinia was a small experimental ship not a warship but my guess is that Welles viewed it as a tech demonstrator and extrapolated about what a very fast ship might do, and applied it to the WOTW.
@hurricanefury4393 жыл бұрын
this was the best moment from the book and yet it's never included in any adaptation. WHY!?!?!? THEY ALWAYS CUT OUT THE BEST PART
@DrrZed2 жыл бұрын
It was in the Pendragon's film version... But the film itself looks like amateur project with CGI made in Garry's Mod 9. Also, Jeff Wayne's rock-opera.
@alexle14842 жыл бұрын
There's a lego fan adaptation which is set in the sort-of future and turns the Thunderchild into a battleship armed with MACS a shame it only took out 1 tripod, it had shields on tho so yeah
@JeffDeWitt Жыл бұрын
It was in Jeff Wayne's musical version, which I beleive to the the best and most accurate adaption of H.G. Wells story. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoO1lmdmhJuEgbc
@generalilbis Жыл бұрын
Probably a combination of HMS Thunderchild having no clear RL counterpart to base a design off of for a live action adaptation to use, and the fact that she only gains a Pyrrhic victory win over the Martian tripods at best...there are other scenes from the book that show how badly we're outclassed technology-wise, so it's a top choice to cut. Personally, I agree with you...having an adaptation with the Thunderchild vs. 3 Martian Tripods duel left in would be epic. Especially if the right amount of effort was made to make the audience care about the ship and crew ahead of time, so its sacrifice gained extra heft from the viewer rooting for them to win.
@connormclernon26 Жыл бұрын
@@generalilbisI mean, it’s already got the advantage of being the first effective resistance demonstrated by Earth forces against the Martians. The sheer hope from the ships that maybe, just maybe they might be able to win, squashed by her loss.
@kylebell73234 жыл бұрын
Everyone asks “what is thunderchild?” Never “How is thunderchild?”
@longboweod4 жыл бұрын
I'll do you one better: Why is Thunderchild?
@deathsheadknight21374 жыл бұрын
@@longboweod who?
@slartybartfarst554 жыл бұрын
Of course unfortunately, The easy one to answer is "where is thunderchild?"
@ronanhix10674 жыл бұрын
Judging by what happens to her in the book, not too good.
@VintageCarHistory4 жыл бұрын
@@longboweod Drach did a great job answering that question in the video- including why her sister ships had not been completed yet.
@davidhimmelsbach5573 жыл бұрын
Thunderchild was based on the Turbinia -- a famous enough Parsons steam turbine demonstrator. Wells clearly knew of it. In his work, he's describing an incredibly fast warship that could whip around to face the Martian tripods, fast enough to even ram one. Wells also threw in a super-performance large calibre turreted gun. In substance, Wells was foretelling of Dreadnought. (1906) Any secondary battery guns were no part of Well's story.
@roosiniimiamiciii666628 күн бұрын
Fascinating
@polarisukyc120422 күн бұрын
Considering that wells foretold the atomic bomb (a name quite literally lifted from well’s ‘the world set free’) including the years of key development milestones to an accuracy of +- 3 years or so, this does not surprise me
@Strelnikov4038 күн бұрын
+1. Fascinating interpretation and one I'm frankly inclined to agree with. Does this make H.G. Wells the Tom Clancy of the 1890s?
@FuriKitten4 жыл бұрын
Shortly to be released by wargaming as a Premium UK , tier 3 Cruiser
@robertstone99883 жыл бұрын
More like tier 2 I think even an Nassau would tear a thunderchild apart. A Arkansas or Wyoming would stomp it into the dirt. Or sea this case. Or gaming needs to do some more class two and some class 1 ships that are older maybe some predreadnoughts and armored cruisers.
@karlsenula94953 жыл бұрын
Then after WG finish releasing the submarines they will start developing the Martians ... and you thought aircraft carriers and submarines were bad ...
@4C0-q7h3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be like a Mikasa and in the same teir
@robertstone99883 жыл бұрын
@UCwbx-vhNVv0erbQGSHKN8ug because the thunderchild fictional ship if it was real wouldn't stand a chance against a full-fledged dreadnought even if it is Nassau. You act like they didn't build real coastal battleships like they didn't exist at all. The whole point of this video was fleshing out a fictional ship and saying what it would be like if it was real. A coastal defense ram stands no chance in a tier 3 world of warships match.
@robertstone99883 жыл бұрын
@@4C0-q7h is it Mikasa the only pre dreadnought on world of warships? It's still faster and out guns the coastal defense ram that is the fictional thunderchild. I don't know if they can make a tear low enough for it
@BadSkeelz4 жыл бұрын
03:10 Always thought it was a missed opportunity with this image that the flags are not signalling ENGLAND EXPECTS THAT EVERY MAN WILL DO HIS DUTY.
@matthewseligman54704 жыл бұрын
Who would win: A highly advanced alien war machine armed with lasers and potent chemical weapons OR One very angry tea kettle
@Tigantal3 жыл бұрын
What tea kettle?
@nguyenten68773 жыл бұрын
@@Tigantal The HMS Thunderchild is an Ironclad Steamship which is powered by boiling water or essentially a big tea kettle.
@Loge_Fend3 жыл бұрын
@@nguyenten6877 this is a secret -this is my alt account-
@Loge_Fend3 жыл бұрын
@@nguyenten6877 ok
@Loge_Fend3 жыл бұрын
@@nguyenten6877 THE BIG TEA KETTLE
@Torus21124 жыл бұрын
MOVING SWIFTLY THROUGH THE WATERS CANNONS BLAZING AS SHE CAME
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
Brought a Mighty Metal Warlord Crashing Down In Sheets Of Flame
@TheArtilleryman4 жыл бұрын
Sensing Victory was nearing, thought that fortune must've spun
@Johnny-Thunder4 жыл бұрын
...thinking fortune must have smiled, people started cheering: come on Thunderchild! Cooooome on Thunderchiihiiihihihiiiiiiild!
@otakunthevegan42064 жыл бұрын
Martian: Humanity are insects to us and their weapons are weak. Also Martian: Why do I hear boss music?
@AtomicBabel4 жыл бұрын
Martians to the right of them, Martians to the left of them, Martians to the front of them Onwards charged the Thunderchild! Oops , wrong story🤓
@moritamikamikara38794 жыл бұрын
The Martians: "We have a heat ray capable of heating a target area to 5,000 degrees, melting steel and turning flesh to fire. Fear my physics!" HMS _Thunder child:_ "I am well in excess of 10,000 tonnes moving at 24 knots. Fear MY physics!"
@connormclernon26 Жыл бұрын
And I am equipped with a Ram Bow!
@merafirewing6591 Жыл бұрын
HMS Thunderchild: *Alright! You alien a-holes! The words of my generation! Up yours!*
@davecrupel2817 Жыл бұрын
*Iowa class floats onto the scene* "Fear what?🤨"
@louisbabycos106Ай бұрын
Ram Bow is Rambo of the British navy ..
@georgecoventry84414 жыл бұрын
Magnificent re-creation of the ship! The heroic attack of the Thunderchild on the Martian tripods is THE most moving passage in that great story.
@otakunthevegan42064 жыл бұрын
Not about how many martians she killed, it's about how many people on the paddle steamer she saved.
@ONECOUNT4 жыл бұрын
@@otakunthevegan4206 If her two sisters were completed they coulld have eliminated 9 or 10 martians based on Thunderchild's performance. The Martians would be like: " Thunderchilds, run away, run away!"
@georgecoventry84414 жыл бұрын
@@ONECOUNT - Other ships would be very unlikely to have the same success, because the Martians in the story adapted quickly to new challenges from human military units, and did not tend to fall victim to any type of ambush again. The reason the Thunderchild did so well was that the Martians had no idea what it was or whether it was even a threat until it was on top of them. Other ships would not have had such an advantage after that....as the Martians would have used their heat ray on them at long range. Unlike a gun, the heat ray fires in a straight line of sight over any distance, like a laser, so it cannot miss once sighted on the target....and to do that only takes a couple of seconds....but ships have to fire ranging shots and they very seldom score hits at longer ranges with their first volley.
@ONECOUNT4 жыл бұрын
@@georgecoventry8441 I was thinking of the Thunderchild and her half sisters as a unit of three ships that fatefull day. I doubt that the Martians would have adapted as they had not with the Thunderchild alone. Had three ships and not just one been there to defend the evacuation fleet perhaps the Martians would have been unable to concentrate their fire on just one ship and all three Vessels might have survived. The next encounter might be different as you say, with the Martians adapting.
@georgecoventry84414 жыл бұрын
@@ONECOUNT - Yes, that would have helped, having more naval vessels on hand to bring fire on the Martians, but the only thing that really worked on them (on a handful of occasions) was to surprise them with a brand new situation that they had no knowledge of. The army's artillery units managed to do that on one occasion, destroyed one tripod and disabled another before the Martians wiped them out. After that the Martians took no chances and saturated any area that provided cover for camouflaged artillery with the poisonous "black smoke". This was 100% effective, and the land-based artillery units never again brought down a Martian machine, but the Thunderchild was a brand new factor, one that the Martians did not recognize or understand until it was too late...just a few seconds too late as it turned out, and that was all it took. The drama of those few moments is unforgettable.
@chijohnaok4 жыл бұрын
The brave crew of HMS Thunderchild must never be forgotten.
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
They were a crew of Her Majesty's Royal Navy, they had a duty to do and they went down fighting
@Thunderchild-gz4gc4 жыл бұрын
You want real bravery look up USS Cumberland
@ghost-dg6tj4 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc that was nothing
@IronWarhorsesFun3 жыл бұрын
LET HISTORY NEVER FORGET THE NAME THUNDERCHILD.
@somethingelse5163 жыл бұрын
Let’s not forget the brave crew of the star destroyers that gave their life in service of the empire while fighting the rebel scum
@Tepid244 жыл бұрын
The art is great. Edit: I can't believe he actually went and added something after the outro. One of the eternal constants has been shattered.
@empath694 жыл бұрын
I half-listened to the by rote outro and already tabbed to something else, and actually JUMPED when Drach spoke up again!
@LostShipMate4 жыл бұрын
It scared the piss out of me. Now I need to clean.
@catfish5524 жыл бұрын
The way you tied the descriptions from the book up into a plausible ship design and cohesive doctrine is perfect.
@aztec01mcf3 жыл бұрын
A twenty minute dissertation on a imaginary ship that was totally believable! Excellent!
@FedralBI4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the book. Thunderchild did her duty for King, and country, and brought great honour to the Royal Navy. Thanks so much for putting this together, and mad respect to the Baron for his amazing artwork. This old Yank redleg will give you a salute from my 8" howitzer just before we go into battle with the Martian Walkers here in the States.
@danlefou5 ай бұрын
For King, yes. The book mentions an opposition within 40 million miles, placing the Martian launch in 1907. Definitely Edwardian! Wells was writing a near-future sf story, ten years before the imaginary events described.
@Maddog30604 жыл бұрын
Q: What *was* HMS Thunderchild? A: Mankind's middle finger to the Martians. EDIT: Baron-Engel?! Holy carp! I love his stuff!
@bluefoxy64784 жыл бұрын
@@stuartpenketh8141 ok British boomer
@ShiftyMcGoggles4 жыл бұрын
Likewise, though more for his risque art.
@CrusaderSports2504 жыл бұрын
It would be two fingers as that has historical significance going back to the battle with the French at Ashincore (sorry for the miss spelling), were the French announced before the battle that they would cut the two fingers used to draw a bowstring off every English Bowman, as the French came second the two fingers were held up to any French prisoners as a mocking gesture, "we won you lost and we still have them ya ya ya" or that sort of thing.
@stuartpenketh81414 жыл бұрын
@@bluefoxy6478 actually a millennial old chap
@Jupiter__001_4 жыл бұрын
@@CrusaderSports250 That is apparently a myth or legend, but the symbol definitely goes back several centuries.
@joshthomas-moore26564 жыл бұрын
She looks a bit like someone lopped of the front two turrets of the Nelson class, but damn does so look good she also looks like she'd fit into a bit of a steampunk universe i love it :)
@AtomicBabel4 жыл бұрын
Check out the monitor Cheyenne ... wink
@morganrobinson80424 жыл бұрын
It's like a battleship sawed in half modified as a fireship. Just a suicidal rush of every method possible to wreck the enemy in front of you.
@randomtechpriest4 жыл бұрын
*HMS Thunder child:* "You see, there's three of you and only one of me, so this clearly isn't a fair fight For you" *Tripod*: ULA **while sweating profusely**
@duneydan79933 жыл бұрын
A Goblin Slayer abridged reference! You sir are a Tech priest of culture!
@randomtechpriest3 жыл бұрын
@@duneydan7993 Ey my man 😎🤝😎
@Peoples_Republic_of_Devonshire Жыл бұрын
*Blasting phonk music as it charges guns blazing*
@michaelmorley93634 жыл бұрын
"Moving swiftly through the waters, cannons blazing as she came" My absolute favorite concept album, and you and Baron absolutely nailed the design.
@philismenko3 жыл бұрын
I immediately thought of it when I saw the video, listened to it and returned, that album makes you feel
@Tsar_NicholasIII3 жыл бұрын
@@philismenko What are you guys talking about? A band?
@@Tsar_NicholasIII Jeff Wayne's 'War of the Worlds' concept album from the seventies.
@pheonix_soldier2 жыл бұрын
Brought a mighty metal warlord crashing down in sheets of flame
@Myomer1044 жыл бұрын
After seeing this video, I was a little inspired. I booted up my copy of Springsharp and worked out the statistics for your interpretation of Thunder Child. There were three differences I had to do in order to make her fit: 1) Increase her waterline length from the 100 meters of the Victoria-class to 125 meters (and a 10-meter ram gives her an overall length of 135 meters), 2) Increase her displacement to 9000 tons, and 3) Set her top speed at 22 knots. The results are as follows: HMS Thunder Child, British Empire Ironclad Ram Battleship laid down 1895 Displacement: 7,727 t light; 8,041 t standard; 9,000 t normal; 9,767 t full load Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep) (442.91 ft / 410.11 ft) x 65.62 ft x (28.87 / 30.43 ft) (135.00 m / 125.00 m) x 20.00 m x (8.80 / 9.27 m) Armament: 2 - 12.01" / 305 mm 25.3 cal guns - 714.01lbs / 323.87kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading guns in turret on barbette mount, 1895 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, forward deck centre 1 - 9.21" / 234 mm 31.5 cal gun - 380.08lbs / 172.40kg shells, 100 per gun Breech loading gun in deck mount, 1895 Model 1 x Single mount on centreline, aft deck aft 6 - 5.98" / 152 mm 26.0 cal guns - 100.00lbs / 45.36kg shells, 100 per gun Quick firing guns in casemate mounts, 1895 Model 6 x Single mounts on sides, forward evenly spread Weight of broadside 2,408 lbs / 1,092 kg Main Torpedoes 5 - 14.2" / 360 mm, 15.09 ft / 4.60 m torpedoes - 0.295 t each, 1.474 t total submerged bow tubes Armour: - Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg) Main: 12.0" / 305 mm 348.59 ft / 106.25 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m Ends: 7.99" / 203 mm 61.48 ft / 18.74 m 9.71 ft / 2.96 m Upper: 5.98" / 152 mm 348.59 ft / 106.25 m 8.01 ft / 2.44 m Main Belt covers 131 % of normal length - Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max) Main: 12.0" / 305 mm - 12.0" / 305 mm 2nd: 0.98" / 25 mm - - 3rd: 0.98" / 25 mm - - - Conning towers: Forward 12.01" / 305 mm, Aft 0.00" / 0 mm Machinery: Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines, Hydraulic drive, 2 shafts, 19,302 ihp / 14,399 Kw = 22.00 kts Range 6,000nm at 10.00 kts Bunker at max displacement = 1,727 tons (100% coal) Complement: 461 - 600 Cost: £0.839 million / $3.355 million Distribution of weights at normal displacement: Armament: 290 tons, 3.2 % - Guns: 287 tons, 3.2 % - Weapons: 3 tons, 0.0 % Armour: 2,850 tons, 31.7 % - Belts: 2,501 tons, 27.8 % - Armament: 238 tons, 2.6 % - Conning Tower: 112 tons, 1.2 % Machinery: 3,271 tons, 36.3 % Hull, fittings & equipment: 1,315 tons, 14.6 % Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,273 tons, 14.1 % Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 % Overall survivability and seakeeping ability: Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship): 2,526 lbs / 1,146 Kg = 2.9 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 4.1 torpedoes Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.42 Metacentric height 4.9 ft / 1.5 m Roll period: 12.5 seconds Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 52 % - Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.16 Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1.04 Hull form characteristics: Hull has a flush deck, a ram bow and large transom stern Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.405 / 0.417 Length to Beam Ratio: 6.25 : 1 'Natural speed' for length: 24.46 kts Power going to wave formation at top speed: 49 % Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50 Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 0.00 degrees Stern overhang: 0.00 ft / 0.00 m Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length): Fore end, Aft end - Forecastle: 10.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m - Forward deck: 40.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m - Aft deck: 45.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m - Quarter deck: 5.00 %, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m, 9.84 ft / 3.00 m - Average freeboard: 9.84 ft / 3.00 m Ship tends to be wet forward Ship space, strength and comments: Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 130.5 % - Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 70.1 % Waterplane Area: 17,247 Square feet or 1,602 Square metres Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 86 % Structure weight / hull surface area: 58 lbs/sq ft or 285 Kg/sq metre Hull strength (Relative): - Cross-sectional: 0.48 - Longitudinal: 1.04 - Overall: 0.52 Caution: Hull subject to strain in open-sea Cramped machinery, storage, compartmentation space Cramped accommodation and workspace room She... isn't all that good, actually.
@AGoodOldRebel2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind, for her likely missions(short range fleet engagement against France, or a Crimean War-esque coastal war) her weakness aren't crippling. Plus the Ram, Armor and compact size would make her a fantastic small craft and coastal attack flagship. Yes, from a modern perspective (and since her design would have been approved before Yalu River), she has some serious limitations, but she would STILL be more flexible then the Monitors used in WW1. And if her class had led the charge at Galipoli, with her long reinforced bow eating the Turkish mines instead of the more vital Battleships... She might just make history yet again.
@dzejrid4 жыл бұрын
Me: It vaguely looks like something out of WH40K. Drach: uploads Emperor-class video on the same day Me: oh...
@empath694 жыл бұрын
Good; I wasn't the only one thinking I'd seen that 'all-forward arms, engines at the rear' form factor somewhere else...
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
@@empath69 Well, the ship designs for Battlefleet Gothic were heavily inspired by Pre-Dread and Dreadnought era battleship designs
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
There were ships of shapes and sizes, scattered out along the bay, And I thought I heard her calling, as the steamer pulled away, The invaders must have seen them, as across the coast the filed, Standing firm between them, There Lay Thunder Child. Moving swiftly through the waters, Cannons Blazing as she came, Brought a mighty metal Warlord, Crashing down in sheets of flame, Sensing victory was nearing, thinking fortune must have smiled, People started cheering, Come On Thunder Child, Come On Thunder Child. Lashing ropes and smashing Timbers, Flashing Heat-Rays pierced the deck, Dashing Hopes for our deliverance, as we watched the sinking wreck, With the smoke of battle clearing, over graves and waves they filed, Slowly disappearing, Farewell Thunder Child, Slowly disappearing, Farewell Thunder Child...
@wolfbyte31714 жыл бұрын
"When the smoke cleared, the little steamer had reached the misty horizon, and Carrie was safe. But the Thunder Child had vanished forever, taking with her man's last hope of victory. The leaden sky was lit by green flashes, cylinder following cylinder, and no one and nothing was left now to fight them. The Earth belonged to the Martians."
@sesharimtusar14284 жыл бұрын
oh i love Jeff Waynes version of War of the worlds
@johnwhite72194 жыл бұрын
Ulla!!!!
@kentnebergall31564 жыл бұрын
If Forever Autumn didn't move you to tears already, Thunderchild from this musical would have you blubbering like a toddler. I still tear up years later just reading that. It's the perfect depiction of defensive Western warfare - the precursor of separation and chaos at home with Forever Autumn, followed by this anthem to men who fight bravely and die by the hundreds to defend and secure men and women they've probably never met amongst their countrymen. It reminds me of the stories my parents told of World War II. They say fiction is often more true than history because history tells one story, but fiction tells all stories. One can see Royal Navy sailors for generations inspiring the story to be written longhand in the first place. One can also see sailors in not only the UK but the US and other navies no doubt thinking of Thunderchild during their most harrowing engagements. Jeff Wayne certainly did the subject justice.
@WPSent4 жыл бұрын
Between them, lay the silent, grey ironclad, Thunder Child. Slowly, it moved towards shore. Then with a deafening roar and whoosh of spray, it swung about and drove at full speed towards the waiting Martians.
@samjones78344 жыл бұрын
Martians: We're gonna invade Earth. HMS Thunderchild: *YOU UTTER FOOL! BRITISH SCIENCE IS THE FINEST IN THE WORLD!*
@joeblow96574 жыл бұрын
HMS Thunderchild prepares to commit a hate crime
@Nightdare4 жыл бұрын
Martians: We're gonna invade Earth. HMS Thunderchild: I'm gonna end this species' whole career
@solidsnake83304 жыл бұрын
*Fully Automatic 16" Gun appears from belt armor*
@Xenogeek24 жыл бұрын
You mean, the finest in TWO worlds (Earth and Mars).
@aaronbasham65544 жыл бұрын
JoJo fans: Superior German Engineering!!!
@JohnnyWishbone854 жыл бұрын
I feel the need to point out that a vessel's wake has as much, if not more, to do with its hull design than total displacement. Most harbor tugs are a few hundred tons at most, but when they're moving around without a load, they kick out a truly *astounding* wake for their size, easily more than many of the vessels they service. This is, of course, because they aren't designed to move through the water efficiently, so their designers didn't worry about what their wake would be like. Similarly, the notional designers of the Thunder child may have decided that some efficiency tradeoffs were worth making if it meant improving some of the ship's other characteristics, like survivability, efficacy as a ram, ability to extract the ram from a target and use it again, etc.
@Werrf14 жыл бұрын
I was going to make a joke here about the Martian cry of "Alloo!" being translated to "Do you see torpedo rams?", but then the video was too nifty for it. I love your analysis, and that design - it's truly fantastic. This is now my canonical _Thunderchild._ Side note: Is there by any chance a deck plan? I'd like to see if I could make a 3d model of the ship.
@darthrex3544 жыл бұрын
Its honestly suprising that in over 100 years the Royal Navy has never commissioned a ship named Thunderchild. Super odd seeing Baron Engel pop up here, but having seen his work on Roam he's cerainly qualified. Maybe sell a print of Thunderchild? Edit apparently Drac is way ahead of me
@LiveErrors4 жыл бұрын
try listening to the last few seconds of the video
@Wtdtd4 жыл бұрын
Watch the video to the very end.
@maximilianhindenburg31684 жыл бұрын
Where is the petition to sign?
@Olumin374 жыл бұрын
It’s probably because Thunderchild is a horrendous name for a warship. Why in heavens name would anyone want to name a Warship anything containing the word child? Doesn’t sound very grand to me.
@TonboIV4 жыл бұрын
@@Olumin37 “Thunderchild" seems to imply "the child of thunder" to me. That is, it's more about parentage than about age.
@falloutghoul14 жыл бұрын
I was actually expecting something different for April Fool's Day. But this is also pleasant.
@Easy-Eight4 жыл бұрын
Nobody is really in the mood for April Fool's jokes. It's bloody grim out there. We're going though a slow motion version of what the Martians experienced.
@Ushio014 жыл бұрын
So the other video on the Emperor class.
@ThatGuy-a484 жыл бұрын
@@Easy-Eight cough cough
@jagerdergroe86044 жыл бұрын
@@Easy-Eight not all of us want to sit in our homes moping, a little humor is more than welcome amid the doom and gloom.
@empath694 жыл бұрын
@@Easy-Eight Me: **looks at Drach's **_other_** upload for 01/04/2020** Me: **looks awkward**
@Alex-cw3rz4 жыл бұрын
I had always imagined an enlarged and armed version of Turbinia, that would give the low profile, the speed described and a brand new ship around the time HG Wells was writing, the way Thunderchild sets off from the pack is just like Turbinia at The Spithead Naval review 1897.
@princeoftonga4 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree more!! I always thought (in my own mind) that Thunderchild was supposed to be turbine powered. H G Wells was writing it at the same time Parsons was testing Turbinia and Wells was very aware of new technology and would likely have known about Turbinia's trials. How about Thunderchild also being a test vessel for turbines as well? Would Certainly make sense to equip a relatively cheap ship that relied on high speed with a new technology that is all about speed.
@noz48a24 жыл бұрын
This guy knows!
@KrillLiberator3 жыл бұрын
Whatever she 'really' was, her engines spooled up really quickly, for sure. Maybe she *was* turbine-propelled after all?
@5h0rgunn454 жыл бұрын
"Moving swiftly through the waters Cannons blazing as she came Brought a mighty metal warlord Crashing down in sheets of flame Sensing victory was nearing Thinking fortune must have smiled People started cheering Come on Thunder Child!" - Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds
@jakemillar6493 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the kind of shenanigans that the designers of HMS Nelson and FS Dunkerque would have got up to if they had been designing ships in the late 1800's, and the kind of shenanigans I like.
@TheOdst2194 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, the Martians hadn't sent any Cylinders.
@wolfbyte31714 жыл бұрын
Martians? Haven't you heard? The chances of *anything* coming from Mars have to be, why, a million to one!
@Mirageknight21334 жыл бұрын
Indeed, how could one expect anything to be launched from that planet! Perish the thought!
@Delgen19514 жыл бұрын
@@Mirageknight2133 "Excuse Me, But have seem my Xq-49 Space Modulator?"
@Delgen19514 жыл бұрын
"Excuse Me, But have seem my Xq-49 Space Modulator?"
@txrwauy4 жыл бұрын
Is Earth obscuring your view of Venus again- ha ha...
@firninarcheron14624 жыл бұрын
Drach I know you probably won’t see this. But there’s an additional book based entirely around HMS Thunderchild, called The Last Days of Thunderchild. It gives an excellent and extremely detailed account of the ship and her design.
@dennisswartz49374 жыл бұрын
The beauty of H.G. Wells was his ability to see what wasn't in existence but could, and in many cases eventually would be, and placing it into his contemporary setting. He was an amazing writer.
@MrAndyBearJr4 жыл бұрын
Both he and Jules Verne were much alike in that respect.
@meddle983 жыл бұрын
Wells was also very humble in his predictions. He never stated them with absolute certainty. He wrote The World Set Free in 1914 where he predicted a world war and nuclear energy by the 1930s. In an addendum after WWI he wrote in later versions, he claimed that though he was right about the world war, he doubted that nuclear energy would be feasible within the 20th century, not knowing that he'd be proven wrong on that count almost within his own lifetime
@badgers19753 жыл бұрын
Land ironclads is a good example of that. Tank warfare long before it existed and infantry riding bicycles to the front line.
@ditzydoo43784 жыл бұрын
Goodness, your collaborative effort rendering of HMS Thunderchild is quite breath taking. Baron Engel has done himself and the ship proud. I can envisage her churning through the water on the attack to ramming speed with guns blazing. Bravo go sirs, bravo... ^_^
@Sukerkin4 жыл бұрын
Splendid stuff, sir. And I have ever found the tale of the Thunderchild to be in the traditions of the Royal Navy. It never fails to give rise to a proud tear whenever I listen to the wonderful namesake song.
@Hy93Ri0n4 жыл бұрын
now THIS is how you make an April Fools video. Still entertaining and on topic, while discussing a less serious idea that's still super interesting
@purplefood14 жыл бұрын
Easily my favourite April Fools video ever.
@Gerod2534 жыл бұрын
Martian Tripod : Walks out into the bay. Thunderchild: Laughs in Royal Navy.
@chrispartridge49364 жыл бұрын
Laughs in tea
@thetankgeneral57754 жыл бұрын
Laughs in rum ration
@youraveragebinchicken6807 Жыл бұрын
Laughs in Rule Britannia
@cwinkels4 жыл бұрын
The one person who downvoted this is likely Martian.
@athopi4 жыл бұрын
@Sjwaria Law 6 now!!! A whole herd/pod/flock/clutch of 'em!!!
@3ftsteamrwy124 жыл бұрын
Well if we issued Marvin the Martian his pu-38 -space modulator, he'd be a happy little earth destroying lil bugger.......
@lrminer20244 жыл бұрын
To be fair, theses videos would be pretty dry if you aren't a naval nerd
@cwinkels4 жыл бұрын
@@lrminer2024 Ah, you've met my wife.
@MS-gr2nv4 жыл бұрын
@Chris we all agreee....we area one....join us.....no thought required
@Malbeefance3 жыл бұрын
HMS Thunderchild sounds like a super-monitor: a monitor but heavily advanced tech.
@johnflanders4444 жыл бұрын
Love watching your videos. As a Navy man I enjoy getting into the history and thought processes of ships and their designs. Your take on the Thunderchild runs parallel to what I came up with back in the early '70s as a school project. Though there are some differences … I had a twin mounted 6pdr in a turret at the rear for one and I think my bow turret had 14" guns instead of the 12" that you mounted. I also had 2 torpedo tubes mounted either side of the ram just below the waterline. Take a look at the Russian WW2 river monitor Udarnyy. If it was a sea going vessel and had the speed it could almost fit the bill. Thanks again for the quality videos.
@Zelcon024 жыл бұрын
I hope this is made into a model someday. I'd love to own it.
@SephirothRyu3 жыл бұрын
Yes please!
@mixererunio17574 жыл бұрын
I just read War of the Worlds and I must say it's still one of the best sci-fi books of all time. Parts about main character's brother are a little bit boring and unnecessary. But still it's a great book and I strongly recommend it for everybody.
@grondhero4 жыл бұрын
When I read it for the first time I was shocked that it didn't take place in the US in the 20th century (because of the movie). I thought it was really neat that it took place in the 1890's. My dad lived in England growing up (my grandfather being in the Air Force) so I started asking him all these cities were real. :) A great book for the time period.
@johnpotter47504 жыл бұрын
Ground Zero "Horsell Common, (six X-roads) 2kms N. E. Of Woking, Surrey, G.B.
@KrillLiberator3 жыл бұрын
It's the version which tells the complete story the best of any version, *funnily enough*
@badgers19753 жыл бұрын
@@johnpotter4750 i love the fact they have a statue of a fighting machine in Woking high street
@johnpotter47503 жыл бұрын
@@badgers1975 Thank you, the surrounding pavement as well as the effigy is well worth a view or photo/audio presentation, namely as an art form. I can remember with humour the ack-ack gun emplacement (cleared)the other(N) side military gravel road off the Horsell Sandpits(film location for Sean Connery "On the Fiddle" 1961) and the Six Xroads.
@robintaberner4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you just made my 9 year old self very happy. After the BBC broke my heart.
@jesusalfredofernandezcruz18333 жыл бұрын
18:55 That is a BEAUTIFUL ship!! Looks like a Victorian Star Destroyer or the grandfather of the HMS Nelson (ww2 warship).
@fredblonder78504 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Now, I want another WOTW movie just so they can showcase your design. I spent a total of six weeks in the crew of the Trireme Olympias, including on the Thames, and cannot help but note the similarity of the prows of Olympias and your version of Thunderchild.
@Beavis-et8ox4 жыл бұрын
When the smoke cleared, the little steamer had reached the misty horizon, and Carrie was safe. But the Thunder Child had vanished forever, taking with her man's last hope of victory.
@avragetrinidadian37874 жыл бұрын
That always gives me chills
@KAKADOUJACK4 жыл бұрын
"The leaden sky was lit by green flashes, cylinder following cylinder, and nothing and no one was left to fight them. The Earth belonged to the Martians."
@Indoor_Carrot4 жыл бұрын
@@KAKADOUJACK UULLAAHHH!!!!!!
@chupacabra34644 жыл бұрын
Ha ha but the martians forgot Coronavirus...
@marcgini14434 жыл бұрын
So we only had one ship then, i think not.
@Galvars4 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... something tells me this ship is not real. Not sure why... just a hunch.
@cutelasscutlass8764 жыл бұрын
She’s real in our hearts
@richardcutts1964 жыл бұрын
It will be the new USSR tier 10 BB after a line split in WOWS.
@athcnv4 жыл бұрын
It's because the mast is IN FRONT OF THE FUNNEL!!!! 😳😨😱 WITCHCRAFT!!!! 🤯😵 Whereas "proper" Royal Navy placement is behind the funnel, ensuring that the mast is cleverly hidden (and roasted) by the ship's smoke most of the time. 😋
@Nightdare4 жыл бұрын
Bollocks, I happened to spot a tripod just a week ago, the murderous "Mother in Law"-type Luckily, I was able to leave the area just as she opened her casemate to fire her deathray, for no man can stand such levels of denigration
@ZeroSonaku4 жыл бұрын
SHE'S REAL TO ME!!
@petesheppard17094 жыл бұрын
Your notional design makes me think of a high-speed monitor.
@AtomicBabel4 жыл бұрын
Wyom, Cheyenne ...
@MichaelEMaus4 жыл бұрын
Or a faster Victoria or Royal Sovereign? They were low and bristled with guns.
@drivernjax4 жыл бұрын
Baron Engel drew this ship? Wonderful. I'm a big, BIG fan of his works. He's a great artist.
@McbrideStudios4 жыл бұрын
I figured he would do Thunderchild for an April 1st video eventually. Really satisfied with the result and can't wait to see what next year holds.
@TheKulu424 жыл бұрын
Yes, this design makes sense. She clearly looks like a Royal Navy ship of the era.
@davidford854 жыл бұрын
Q: What exactly was HMS Thunderchild? A: Awesome!
@darkblood6264 жыл бұрын
The last thing three War Machines ever saw.
@michaelwale99334 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy you made this. I've literally just started rereading the war of the worlds and have just passed the Thunderchild chapter
@stanjones61484 жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis and spot-on rendering. Attack of the Thunderchild is my favorite part of the book.
@rw544 жыл бұрын
I’ve watch this three times due to the amount of information you have to absorb throughout. It is an excellent video.
@Errors21494 жыл бұрын
"so what is the thunderchild, really?" Drachinifel: "Hold my cup of tea"
@Bronasaxon4 жыл бұрын
My god, you’ve created the 18th century wet-Navy equivalent of the Defiant class from Star Trek.
@foradain52114 жыл бұрын
Late 19th century, actually. ^_^
@zerotheprotogen24203 жыл бұрын
The 18th century was from 1700 to 1799
@ElwoodPDowd-nz2si3 жыл бұрын
Nerdgasm
@MarzoVarea3 жыл бұрын
@@zerotheprotogen2420 1701 to 1800, actually. (If a vote is taken I 'll most likely be in the minority, but I don't mind).
@invadegreece92813 жыл бұрын
69 likes, I can’t ruin it...... Or can I 😈
@erwinvanleijenhorst76054 жыл бұрын
You know. When you started to list all the things that Thunderchild had to possess, I immediately thought it had to be a variant of HMS Victoria. Always nice to see when people think the same way. :-)
@donpfoutz6254 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. A very well thought out design of her. Kudos, kudos. The artwork is very spectacular. I think as a "what if" she'd be a nice addition to the modeling fleet.
@Kevin_Kennelly4 жыл бұрын
Applause to Baron Engel. Nicely done, Sir.
@monsieurduquack54404 жыл бұрын
If I happened to be chosen as the First Space Lord of Her Majesty's Space Force, I would name our first Space Dreadnought *HMS Thunderchild*
@weldonwin4 жыл бұрын
Second one should be HMSS (Her Majesty's Space Ship) Victory
@lauragodridge89664 жыл бұрын
*driving over mars* *microbes on mars* OH GOD NO
@the13inquisitor594 жыл бұрын
I can only assume that name is reserved for the first void warship that humanity produces.
@MrAndyBearJr4 жыл бұрын
I think it would have to be HMSS Thunderchild - Her Majesty's Space Ship.
@solomonreal19773 жыл бұрын
i SAY!!!
@wolfbyte31714 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous design! I had read a side story from C.A. Powell titled "Last Days of the Thunder Child" which goes into the ship and crew some more. In that book, the ship is described as another member of (or closely related to) HMS Devastation. Of course, that makes her a more traditional pre-dreadnought ironclad. The design you and Engel have made, though, now that's brilliant.
@kennethdeanmiller73242 ай бұрын
I had to RE VISIT Thunderchild! It's still as fun as the first time I watched it!
@Assassinus24 жыл бұрын
The bit at the end moved me to shout “Huzzah for the Thunderchild!”
@blogsblogs23484 жыл бұрын
All these pictures show the Martian war machines rising high... The book states that they had waded out and their upper works were close to the water... I envisioned her as something like HMS Hotspur but with a few torpedoes...
@andrewholdaway8134 жыл бұрын
That's another artistic fail, the fighting machines are always portrayed much larger than HG probably envisaged.
@jwenting4 жыл бұрын
I'd guess they were wading in from deeper water, thus rising up higher as they came in closer to shore. That and, as said, artistic license to make them appear more formidable. Considering that each was constructed from materials contained within a single cylinder, and the size of those is pretty well described, the massive machines often shown aren't likely. Something akin to a small armoured car on stilts is more probable.
@Delgen19514 жыл бұрын
@@jwenting Wells described them as beaning as tall as a church steeple, or about 35 to 50 feet tall or the size of a Battle tech Madcat.
@alganhar14 жыл бұрын
@@Delgen1951 Hmmm... Pretty glad they were not as capable as a Timber Wolf then! That thing would be terrifying, twin LRM 20s and twin ERLL's compared to a single Heat Ray (probably something close to an Extended Range Large Laser)? Would have blown Thunderchild out of the water before she managed a few ship lengths! A single MadCat would devastate the Martian Walkers....
@battleoid24114 жыл бұрын
@@alganhar1 now I want to see a Steiner scout lance curb stomping the martians
@lexington4764 жыл бұрын
Might the term 'Ironclad' at the time the book was published be a generic term for any kind of capital/armored looking warships?
@poisonousteapot23944 жыл бұрын
Maybe, similar to how people nowadays call any warship larger than a destroyer that isn't a carrier (E.g heavy cruiser) battleship
@nitehawk864 жыл бұрын
How much of an overlap was there between ironclads and armored cruisers?
@poisonousteapot23944 жыл бұрын
@@nitehawk86 well there are some, armoured frigate which were the predecessor to armoured cruiser were a type of ironclad, most early armoured cruiser (e.g general admiral and the Shannon class) could be considered ironclad. From it's introduction till at least late 19th century, iron armouring is somewhat of a novelty restricted only to large fleet battleships and coastal monitors, as armouring became more common in the late 1890s the term ironclad fell out of use.
@TheArgieH4 жыл бұрын
@@poisonousteapot2394 Interesting. I have a book which is a photographic record of the construction of WW I era. Dreadnoughts and Super Dreadnoughts. It shows the layers of teak planking coating the underside of the armour steel plating, intended to absorb the shock of incoming shell fire. Are they wood clad, or rather wooden underwear wearers?
@andrewholdaway8134 жыл бұрын
@@TheArgieH Widely speculated to be the inspiration for thunderchild: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Polyphemus_(1881)
@longlakeshore4 жыл бұрын
Pronounced keh-TAH-din. Named after Mt. Katahdin, the highest mountain in the state of Maine at just over a mile high. I like Baron's design. Love HG Wells. Did the rams knowingly realize any of the advantages of having a bulbous bow? Or did that wait until Taylor created the first tow tank?
@benjaminlecrone91224 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’ve climbed that overgrown hill several times and every time he said the word I cringed. Of course listening to Maine-ites (?) try to speak regular American English is cringe inducing too.
@mnovick114 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminlecrone9122 Mainers
@lawrencelewis81054 жыл бұрын
@@mnovick11 Ayuh. Been to Maine.
@glennberry48294 жыл бұрын
Mainiacs: Those who like Maine enough to live there for more than one winter. Guilty as charged.
@lawrencelewis81054 жыл бұрын
@@glennberry4829 I'm originally from New York. Once my now ex-wife and I went just over the border into Maine for an afternoon when we were staying in New Hampsha. I drove her batshit saying ayuh all the time after that. Like I said before, ayuh, been to Maine. I'm easily amused.
@yalelingoz63464 жыл бұрын
I should never have doubted you. I saw this thumbnail and mentally assigned it a low priority thinking it was stuff you've covered before. But I was dead wrong. And I love the work to meet the description, but considering design ethos of the RN at the time, plausible tactics, and even the procurement process. In hindsight this is exactly the amount of thought you'd put into a task like this. So thanks to you and Baron Engel for the work on this. It was great.
@olsmokey4 жыл бұрын
Saw Thunderchild in the title and knew exactly what it meant. Great story, I read it regularly. Fascinating analysis of the design, thanks.
@BenjaminWeimer4 жыл бұрын
Then corvid 1897 hit and all the Martins died. The end.
@onesec80054 жыл бұрын
Heh!
@489170324 жыл бұрын
That was actually the plain old flu. I wonder what coronavirus would have done to them. Maybe turned them thermonuclear?
@archiescriven61784 жыл бұрын
Does this mean the tripods are technically all AntiVaxers? If so that would explain quite a lot of the american population.
@quox39874 жыл бұрын
@@archiescriven6178 more so that they were post-vaxers, they lived as a civilization so long that they outlived and eradicated disease as a type of organism on their planet. As such they never needed vaccines afterwards, as to continue to do so was a waste of resources, time, and effort.
@sureshot83994 жыл бұрын
Were they all pecked to death by a plague of crows then?
@brettmcdowell1794 жыл бұрын
Just what I needed this week. Should be a fun video.
@godlucifer84284 жыл бұрын
Imagine at the battle between Thunderchild and Tripod suddenly the Yamato and Enterprise appears in the sky
@ThatGuy-a484 жыл бұрын
Or hell the HMS dreadnought
@Ozraptor44 жыл бұрын
The Thunderchild was engaging a Borg cube at Sector 001 when Enterprise appeared. Yamato was unfortunately lost with all hands about 8 years earlier at Iconia.
@Alobo0754 жыл бұрын
@@Ozraptor4 If that was the Yamato in question. I immediately pictured the Space Battleship Yamato and the Enterprise.
@nk_33324 жыл бұрын
Taffy 3 welcomes their sister in spirit
@ScienceChap4 жыл бұрын
I take it you refer to the two Galaxy class starships?
@virgofmadness14174 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite literary moments of all time was this scene from War of the Worlds - Thanks for doing a video about it!
@wafflesnfalafel13 жыл бұрын
super cool - you have me convinced. I absolutely can picture that thing, full flank right at them and pounding away with that single big turret.
@Lukusprime4 жыл бұрын
When I saw what I thought was the final drawing at 13:36, I thought to myself “that’s not too impressive, I could draw that”. But seeing the real final drawing at the end of the video... just wow. That truly is impressive!
@baronengel2484 жыл бұрын
I'm glad the final art was worth the wait.
@xXLtDudeXx4 жыл бұрын
Hands down some of the best theory crafting I have ever witnessed. And I used to be part of a WoW lore group so that's saying something.
@lycossurfer88514 жыл бұрын
You do realize that the Martians are taking notes on this to prevent any future issues, right?
@LeandraF1093 жыл бұрын
Say hello to my little virus
@EgorKaskader3 жыл бұрын
Well, at this point they'd have to worry more about being nuked...
@davefinfrock33243 жыл бұрын
Most assuredly. However, this is addressed in War of the Worlds: Goliath. You will ultimately lose a purely defensive war. At some point, you'll have to go to Mars...
@BioHunter1990 Жыл бұрын
Martians: “Surrender, Earthlings.” HMS Thunderchild: “General quarters. Full speed ahead. Every man to his post. God save the Queen.”
@Astrostevo4 жыл бұрын
I just love the fact that you have made _this_ clip on *_this_* ship. Thankyou. PS. Also all the artwork here.
@pseudonym95994 жыл бұрын
Somehow the Thunderchild still looks small. Probably on account of that massive main gun. Would it be unreasonable to hope for more of these videos? Perhaps the HMS Polychrest next?
@stevenlowe30263 жыл бұрын
Oh, yes please.
@oblivionguard90224 жыл бұрын
HMS Thunderchild: omae wa mou shindeiru. Tripod: Nani?
@CSSVirginia4 жыл бұрын
Soon to be a premium ship in World of Warships!
@davidknowles24914 жыл бұрын
Don't give them any ideas!
@nk_33324 жыл бұрын
To quote Palpatine: 'Do it!'
@steveb61034 жыл бұрын
Anything for cash!
@CSSVirginia4 жыл бұрын
@@steveb6103 I mean, 20$ is 20$.
@rogerthomas70404 жыл бұрын
Only if they can claim it as a Russian ship.
@atmosdwagon46564 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw this video, the original Jeff Wayne musical started playing in my head. "Moving swiftly through the waters, cannons blazing as she came. Sent a mighty metal warlord, crashing down in sheets of flame. Sensing victory was nearing, surely fortune must have smiled. People started cheering: COME ON THUNDER-CHILD!" And now it's stuck in my head again. There's certainly worse, so...you're forgiven this time.
@mrsteamie41964 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that detailed drawing at 18:55 is so gorgeous and imposing... Stellar!