Hoarding part 4

[@prettypistol8850]

I was a paper hoarder to the first degree. And I became like a she wolf if anyone even touched my hoard. This came about after my Mothers death. After many years I was finally able to get a handle on it and thin the majority of it out and was able to keep it contained in one spot instead of the whole house. I still have my beloved newspaper articles and items I enjoy reading but I keep them in scrapbooks and in a large plastic bin that I thin out periodically.

[@iadorenewyork1]

I really liked the actress woman’s good friend Mary’s reaction when she visited - “It’s cluttered. It just needs straightening up. ... I still love you.”

[@Malleolust]

EXACTLY. I worked under a Certified Social Worker in a Work-Study position for a Permanent Housing Program as a Counseling Psychology student. You are 100% correct. I had the opportunity to be an aide to a hoarder. She claimed sexual abuse, she had undergone loss/trauma, and she claimed to have a very strained relationship with her mother (which was largely based on her hoarding, so it was kind of an endless cycle). Counseling her regarding her past... It was like chipping at an iceberg.

[@spoddog1]

thanks. its a slow process and you just got to look at everything, your stuff, your future. as stuff goes out the door, the weight lifts off your shoulders. i find i am spending more time with friends, going out, its great. i cant wait till i only own the bare essentials of life. meanwhile, i watch these shows and get better.

[@spoddog1]

its not easy, people think that just throwing things away fixes all but i know what its like to treasure something thats absulutely useless and has no part in your life. i am gradualy clearing out stuff and my mental health appears to be improving. these shows have been so helpfull to me.

[@TrishyxLou]

this puts a new meaning to "please excuse the mess", i remember my mom used to say that now looking back the mess was nothing compared to these houses. i really hope these people got help though!

[@erbiumfiber]

If you have a relative who is a hoarder, there is really very little you can do so let's not blame any of the relatives. My brother needs help on so many levels- my final "intervention" is buying a family vacation house in which he can live but NOT his stuff (which has to stay at his dump, about 1 hr. away). I am paying for a cleaning service and lawn service which will come weekly. My mother will come and stay on weekends/summer; family will come on holidays. This is my last effort...

[@erbiumfiber]

@101Volts. Thanks, I'll check into it- but like so many hoarders, (especially the guys), the junk they pick up is "valuable." It just needs to be fixed up and then it can be sold for a huge profit. So...no hoarding, it's just a "home business" (never mind that nothing has ever been sold his whole life, it's going to happen some day- and the stuff that can't be fixed is saved for "spare parts." Yup, huge denial...

[@prettypistol8850]

You know I actually enjoy this bickering back and forth. It makes the day more enjoyable for me. I can hardly wait to read your answers.

[@vkushima1957]

William’s loneliness was heartbreaking

[@Multimeli123]

Oh this really makes me cry! I love psychology...love it! These people just need understanding & love. This is no different than an addiction, no different than compulsive eating, or not eating, It is an issue of depression, anxiety, lack of control and maybe even traumatic events that occured in these ppl. lives.

[@finehomemadewine]

I am an obsessive anti-hoarder. I get an anxiety attack even from my weekly grocery arrival - so much stuff in my space! Yes, psychology is interesting.

[@erbiumfiber]

@Burnz2much If you watch these shows, these people have HUGE social interaction problems and tend to be isolated from family and friends or just don't have any (yes, for some, hoarding drove them away but for others a loved one passed away or some other trauma so they became hoarders). So I think getting more positive social interactions in their lives is really critical. Also they need to see how "normal" people live and interact, away from their piles of junk. It's a start.

[@erbiumfiber]

@Burnz2much Well, it is now 5 months after buying the house and it is REALLY working out. Family has been to visit and my brother is MUCH less isolated (because you can't really invite people over to your hoarder dump). His junk is NOT in the new house and even his DOGS love it because they can move around! He is not going to ever change at his house but he is getting a taste of normality which is positive. I do it all for my mother, who worries about him. I would do anything for my mother

[@gillianbrookwell1678]

It is the most frustrating and tiresome life having to live with a hoarder. My 40 year marriage is over due partly to my husband's compulsive hoarding. I used to put a couple of bags full of what I thought was junk out for the bin collection only to find it back in the house days later in a different place.

[@erbiumfiber]

Update- house is sitting there, ready and waiting- my brother won't move in because he can't bring all his STUFF (especially his tractors, backhoe, etc.). So we use it as a vacation house (that has worked) and offered to get him a place with NO restrictions on use (could run a "business") but every place falls short. I don't think he will ever move, it's pretty sad. The house will fall down soon or be condemned. Yes, it is a strange and serious illness that consumes his life.

[@tigertbalm]

The solution I found for my hoarding aunt was to move her to an assisted living place where they had regular inspections of the residents apartment.It seems to be quite common in the elderly.

[@iadorenewyork1]

My Mom, who has a bit of a problem and history of cluttering, lives in government housing, where there are inspections of the apartments. If a resident’s apartment condition doesn’t’t “pass”, there’s a warning. If it isn’t rectified soon, they are evicted! Severe ... but it gets my mother in gear!

[@erbiumfiber]

@Burnz2much Yes, I have been financially fortuntate, also the drop in prices made it very cheap and maybe, just maybe, it will appreciate by the time I retire. It has a ton of land and my brother is making all kinds of plans to build a barn (just NOT put junk in it, this much he knows) and clearing out the wooded parts and fixing things up. MUCH healthier than how he was living- he still goes "home" to play with his compressors, etc. but he is emotionally better with more family around.

[@PurdyBear1]

We dont have bad teeth, they are natural. Most Americans use bleach or enamel facings to their teeth, giving them an un-natural whiteness. A lot also use dental surgery that would be deemed very unnecessary in the UK. In the Uk we have a NHS dental service and a small private service, therefore only necessay work is carried out. There are 100s of shades of teeth through the white, cream range, in America you dont see this just bleach whiteness.

[@redwoods7370]

My hat is off to family members and friends who try to help the hoarders clear their rooms. I would never have the patience to do that. I'd have to hire a crew.

[@ozjenva]

I feel so sorry for Roy's wife, I think the help has come far too late, the damage to their relationship has been done. I admire Roy's wife, I know I could not cope with what she appears to have gone through.

[@finehomemadewine]

The lovely lady from the 1st story has the advantage of her city apparently letting people just leave the rubbish bags outside of their houses on the street - it shall help her save a lot of hassle of hiring a skip and having to fill it up and remove under a strict deadline. ...I often think town-halls do not offer enough possibilities to put away, resell and recycle all the unused stuff people (and not only hoarders) need to get rid of nowadays in order to keep their houses clutter-free. ...Meanwhile letting it on the street looks horrible for the people walking at night.

[@101Volts]

@erbiumfiber Maybe if your brother reads "Clutter's Last Stand" It could help. It was written in the early 80s but is still very relevant.

[@shadowfangirl4life]

i'm starting to become addicted to watching these documentaries xD does anyone know the song in the background??

[@tessabiggs2917]

I’m the first to admit I don’t truly understand hoarding. They seem a bit selfish to their families and friends.

[@KDL861]

Brenda Evans They are simply mentally ill. They somehow feel safe with stuff surrounding them. It’s a defense mechanism.

[@56BUICKRiviera]

it is amazing the self centerdness that these people exihbit.

[@janellehamill6266]

Bless your soul follow your dreams

[@georgiamclovingme1697]

That hug was so dry, cthu😂

[@Pat2296]

Everyone handles these hoarders with kid gloves, but when they live in apartments what about the rights of their neighbours who live next door to a stinking, infested firetrap?

[@annetterussell4429]

Pat2296 I have that lives down the hall from me

[@hilarychloebelf]

I have noticed a computer in everyone one of these hoarders homes as my family does the same thing , I wonder if turning off the monitor would be a better option.

[@spikefivefivefive]

@OtherLives Hygiene=Vanity?

[@NWforager]

@OtherLives How does America fit into the equation ?

[@prettypistol8850]

There's a show in the U.S. called Hoarders. It showcases homes that are so bad that the authorities are ready to step in and toss the hoarder out unless it's cleaned out. You can see some really nasty hoards and lots of family fights,,and the fights really become vicious when they try to clean the hoard out.

[@DarDarBinks1986]

@chemoelectric Yeah. We call those people hicks. In Canada, they're hockey players.

[@xexixk]

@zackboomer I understand, that's what I'm talking about too. Some people do seem to confuse bleaching with normal and good care.

[@alosha18]

how is william not working who pays for his bills and food?

[@TheLadyEri]

A lot seem to be divorced or in unhappy marriages, I've noticed.

[@pearldrop2]

Actually we (Americans) brush regularly and practice good oral hygiene

[@Gehenna71]

You're an angel. How is he doing so far?

[@Stardust_7273]

@TSM8088 What issue does she have? I don't understand what you mean.

[@xexixk]

@zackboomer I agree, just stating I've seen plenty of people here in the US who could do with some dental "help" as well.

[@black4pienus]

@erbiumfiber a lot of families would have give up. you must have a loving family, but even your close ones have a limit.

[@TheDrjaydrjay]

Almost all hoarders are avoiding some emotional past, usually sexual / physical abuse, sometimes the death of a close relative, a near-death event (fire, accident, etc.) or some other trauma which has instigated this coniditon which they won't address cuz it'll hurt emotionally. Tough shit, they need to suffer to move forward like addicts suffering withdrawal. The crux is that they have to WANT help, or at least to change & move forward instead of standing still.

[@MrKillswitch88]

I think there is a point ware such people who hoard their own waste should be put into an institution to receive help for the underline problems and not just the hoarding.

[@tinarandall709]

IAM sure it's not easy. For everyone helping. 🤐. May things turn out well. For all !! tina Randall in California

[@nickymindyourownbuisness6599]

God that poor woman has to put up with an nightmare husband. Hard to thathm why she stays with that man. I know he is sick but that is just so unfair on her.

[@Frankowillo]

The sad thing is, at her age, she's stuck with him. In her mind, the alternative options seem just as bad. She also doesn't have the strength of will to put her foot down and stand up to his selfishness.

[@eileeneclark9011]

8/28/19....He isn't "sick"....He is self-centered + bitter + scared of gettung older/sick/being alone + completely UNWILLING to take a shovel & toss out all this ridiculous rubbish that has taken over his life + his home. Mold + disguisting filth + mountains of old papers/letters from the "way back machine" that are worthless now. Greedy + controlling + determined to run/ruin his whole family.

[@geoffdearth8575]

I think that hoarding is partially a consequence of affluence. I don't think you have this problem in 3rd world countries. I think the difference between 1st world hoarders and 3rd world people is that our (1st world) hoarders keep stuff that would be "auctioned off" in the 3rd world.

[@ddivincenzo1]

I wish them all the best of luck!

[@whitesongs73]

@NoLongerFooled yeah I always wonder why they have bad teeth? I do not think they do or should eat or suck anything of the male or female sex part.

[@TheLadyEri]

My Aunt might be a hoarder, but she is so bitter, none of us could really help her, and if we tried, she would be so angry.

[@xexixk]

@zackboomer I've been to the UK many times. I haven't noticed any more people there running around with hideous teeth than I've sen here. Hideous teeth being rotten or horrible twisted and crooked. Bleaching teeth to an artificial bright white I don't consider as a hygenic thing - actually that can damage the enamel and eventually lead to all kinds of unpleasant problems. Regular cleanings and so forth are one thing, but that bleaching can cause problems if it is done on a regular basis.

[@janellehamill6266]

Karen they live on their own cause they drive family away your right 👍🏻

[@AngeliaChanel]

Yeah i dont think many women would put up with a man crapping in containers and keeping it.

[@Burnz2much]

@erbiumfiber Glad to hear it. Now if only everyone could be put up in a house of their own with no rent. World would be a better place. :)

[@shadowfangirl4life]

at the end?

[@TheDrjaydrjay]

That's AMAZING of you! These people have mental illnesses which are so hard for us to understand, practically impossible. I still don't understand how they can choose their things over their families once given ultimatums: "us or the stuff". Make them adhere to new laws of not bringing new stuff home & police them once a week or once a month, as if it were an actual law. It's easy to clear out a place, but useless if they're just gonna relapse the next day. Any thoughts?

[@whitesongs73]

@OtherLives that is no reason why ur teeth should look jacked up and have bad breath on top of that. Being vain has nothing to do with it. brush ur teeth, floss, see ur dentist on reg basis.

[@badgerattoadhall]

@PurdyBear1 (americans) " Most Americans use bleach or enamel facings to their teeth" do we? do we really?

[@cathrynm]

Yeah, hoarders love stuff more than family.

[@prettypistol8850]

For all the manic/depressives out there..please forgive me for my tacky comments concerning that particular condition. After I slept on it for a while I realized that even tho I am one myself those comments were crass.

[@CMO5569]

For Richer or Hoarder , In Sickness and in health..

[@DMWolFGurL]

@OtherLives I'm glad I'm vain then because I know I take care of myself and my house. My hygeine is good and I am healthy if I am vain for that then I guess I am vain. I would rather be vain than to be filthy to prove I am not.

[@prettypistol8850]

What's up, I haven't heard from you in a while.

[@MonacoBlast]

@OtherLives Ouch! That really hurt! Boy oh boy!

[@baddoggie101]

You can't put people into an institution. They have to commit themselves unless they have committed an criminal act.

[@acajudi100]

Karen needs to just move, declare him crazy, and dump that stuff.

[@huckster66]

No, could not help man with that attitude! Live in the crap till you die and then toss EVERYTHING!

[@PurdyBear1]

@pearldrop2 And Like we dont ! Just shows how much you know.

[@NadrianATRS]

Roy needs some major eyebrow trimming

[@FortuneSushi]

Have you tried to enlist the help of a hypnotherapist or someone who can help address his hoarding problem? You need "help" in helping your brother too. That's why they send in teams and family members or else it would just be you against Him and his hoard. Its definitely going to burn you out as well, so I suggest you prepare to battle it out by getting help from the experts to nix the behavior once and for all.

[@Burnz2much]

@erbiumfiber You are a better person then me, I would only help that much if they showed improvement. But realize that there is not many people that have family or someone who cares that could provide such an arrangement.

[@ThePresident001]

Thats a grand claim indeed!

[@JoodSomething]

one thing i don't get is a Hoarder a dirty person or a lazy or just someone who loves to collect garbage?

[@chemoelectric]

@OtherLives But Americans have crummy teeth, too. What we don't have is very many documentaries.

[@ohsuzeyq_]

I Would've left Roy a long time ago if I was Karen.

[@badgerattoadhall]

@OtherLives oh yes you are

[@mcdonaldh56yahooca]

As far as i'm concerned there's Hoarders and then there's PIGS

[@Bonitaymorena]

@AngeliaChanel omg... i just clicked on this video and saw your comment first..... 0___0!!!! that's a sign of insanity!!!

[@FreezerSpaces]

@804safety Reminds me... I haven't reached my child killing quota for the week.

[@markaustin1849]

When in doubt chuck it out.

[@rosaliawijaya3781]

In USA have people like that ??? UMBELIEVABLE !!! Home a lot thing cause there are sick mental !!!

[@804safety]

@NoLongerFooled I AM CANADIAN EH.

[@Renegade30]

These poor people, they suffer from a instinctive diversion (like how a caveman gathers meat), just like how homosexuals suffer from an instinctive diversion... Yet we should support these people and help them feel happy, while maintaining a sense of belonging in society. I think instinctive diversion is the curse of intelligent creatures. (Now you will probably call me homophobic etc, but you must agree that it is against the grain of instinctive procreation and im not being antagonistic)

[@finehomemadewine]

You are a stupid creep. Homosexual behavior exists in all nature, even in animals and wild tribes it keeps the number of offsprings down when needed. Don´t try to be clever because you are not.

[@sumwotcurvie]

@NoLongerFooled :) As a Brit living in the USA, clearly you have never seen the country folk of America. LOL Not All I might add.... ;)

[@prettypistol8850]

Oh by the way what does dutty stand for? Are you trying to say nutty? Actually I am nutty. I'm a manic/depressive so I am a certifiable crazy person,,who takes medicine for craziness. I;m sure this will get negative votes but at least I can find some humor in my condition. Not everyone can.

[@Burnz2much]

@iftyshifty It is a common generalization, due to the fact most do. It's ok, I would rather have bad teeth then contribute tax's to the murder of innocent's around the world, or in some cases actually carrying it out. But hey, we are all born into something we don't like. Just ignore the BS, every single culture, race and creed have common generalizations even if they are not true. But it does make you wonder where they get started, at least for me.

[@janellehamill6266]

These people value stuff that others make millions on selling them the poor man waste waste of lives and friendships of life in general

[@xexixk]

@zackboomer You should open you eyes more. I've seen plenty of people here in the US walking around with some pretty nasty looking teeth.

[@FreezerSpaces]

@804safety XD You're hilarious.

[@jdubbs530]

this is sad

[@prettypistol8850]

I just got home from work and I don't see any kind of comment from you. I've been looking forward to this all night. Surely you can think of something to say.

[@prettypistol8850]

Why not pity me,,maybe I need some pity. Anyway I don't hoard anymore.

[@LllDawnlll]

Quit being lazy and clean up your freaking space!

[@WatchHeadsRoll]

Hoarding is not laziness. It's a mental illness, and quite the opposite of lazy, actually.

[@TheDrjaydrjay]

Wow, maybe better to put $ towards some psych treatment for him ? Hypnotherapy has helped me & others, also...

[@shirleypena4133]

@ richmanpoman1, I agree. :/

[@prettypistol8850]

Well yeah I guess you're right.

[@TheChannyj28]

9:44 Hot Chocolate OR, Steaming Poo in a Paint Bucket....

[@PurdyBear1]

Oh geeese, I guess your just soooooooo rude about everyone else, you just dont like some coming back at yeh!

[@RetroWaveDave84]

I see nothing wrong here.

[@ReligiousZombie]

Sell your soul to Jesus and win a free GayStation3.

[@HopePhotoG]

wow , seriously? why are you mocking Jesus.. you're a fool.