Flight Review - HobbyKing Sports Hawk, 105mm EDF Jet ARF (1500mm)

[@Greendot319]

Unbelievable price 😂

[@GillesCaudron]

What a stunning beauty! Just find it quite expensive tough.. 970+ euros for a jet without edf and esc 😰

[@joshuaburgess4730]

Yeah I was interested but as soon as I seen that I was like NOPE! WAY OVERPRICED

[@LoudRC]

😲Wow that is a lot for a 1500mm foamie!! Plus you have to add another ~400 for fan unit!

[@trullmann]

Is price pretty comparable to others of this size. You can spend over two grand for other models of this size.

[@labr23]

@@trullmann never

[@LoudRC]

@@trullmann for a foamie?? If it was a decent GFRP or CFRP then I'd agree, but not for a foamie. The production cost for this aircraft is going to be inline with other similar sized foam models. Take the HK B-17 for example. 1875mm span, pre-painted, 4 motors & escs, retracts, 6 servos, nav and landing lights. £368

[@michaelspunich7273]

Way overpriced for no ducting and no paint on the white foam. The livery is boring too. Not saying it is not a nice jet, but dang.

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

There is white paint on it.

[@michaelspunich7273]

@@airbornjetworkx3317 Oh. That's nice!

[@blinkguy4ever]

I never talk about pricing onvl videos like these.. but damn man. That is way over priced at 900 usd with no power combo.

[@jtrimarchi1]

Overpriced 1000 EU for a foam aircraft. No way

[@EDF_FANatic]

Weird strat for hobbyking going into this class of edfs.

[@FR4-Pilot]

Is this one going to be left to fade away months after release like the current (?) Viper 64 ?

[@shozzy69]

You right I don’t know anyone near me who bought the viper 64

[@EssentialRC]

Seeing it for the first time at ProWing doesn't seem so long ago now! Well done Stuart and great flight Frank.

[@cinemenico]

I'd have me a FlyFans L-39... XFly T-7A, FMS Avanti S or Viper Jet as nice complete sports jets. If non-foam and bigger... I'd save up for a Sebart. This seems to wanna occupy the market gap in between those two segments. Interesting move. But not sure that's the thing people wanna see from Hobby King where we're used to low buck - big bang. Time will tell if this is a hit. GL.

[@RCINFORMER]

Nice Stuart!

[@JohnVHRC]

Thats a beauty!

[@reckemroysrc3764]

Agree 👍🏻

[@rcdavidk]

Excellent sound on that JP 105.

[@Icarusthe2nd_RC_and_friends]

Good to see the Hawk demonstration Stuart. Nice flying Frank 👍

[@richardpowellTV]

Looks good and I'm sure it's a fantastic model but the price????? If it was PNP I may have been tempted but no way. I'm certain sales will be very limited so HK will have to rethink on this one.

[@trullmann]

For the size of this EDF, it's comparable in price to others on the market. Some are much more expensive.

[@WarbirdFan66]

very nice yet, good work Stuart :)

[@RCPlaneReviewer]

Very nice!

[@tdogrc]

Thanks Stuart. Surly crying out for a 60N turbine conversion? Send me one please 🙏🏻 and I’ll do a build series 😂. Love the scheme. 👍🏻

[@cadbuildflyrc3784]

Very nice looking jet!

[@trullmann]

Looks good!

[@ModelAV8RChannel]

Big Jet Stuart! Very nice indeed. Looks to fly fantastic!

[@airhammer6203]

Nice model HK, thanks Stuart and family, friends.

[@fishmjh]

Nice model but out of my price range, £798!! why so expensive?

[@JMan-m6q]

Stuart-nice jet. What is the release status for the AVIOS 1.6m Twin Otter you previewed at Spring Joe Mall? I've been waiting patiently for it!

[@dennismatovich8411]

Nice sound profile for sure!

[@matthiasschwarz7087]

This is an AF Hawk Strip down to the needs, in Germany ist the Cheapest AF Hawk 1400€ ! …without Engine ESC and so on ..i don’t Need Brakes ..slats ..or other gimmiks ,for me Importend light weight ..strong Gear for Grass Fields and Good flying experience .In This case 950 is ok ( Not cheap !) i don’t like the Color Sheme too but ist is no Problem to change this with a few Spray cans ..my will convertid in a T45 sheme

[@ficosk8]

@@matthiasschwarz7087 gut zu wissen Matthias :D! 👍🏼

[@ThrunRC]

Take my money 😅 Very nice Jet. 👏👏👏

[@ficosk8]

@@ThrunRC 👌🏼

[@ficosk8]

The most beautiful part was the landing and take off :)

[@Jay-zc7iq]

I mean I’m stupid but I’m not absolutely mindless, that price is and you know way over the top , All this does is make me build my own even more , wow

[@ficosk8]

What about the max speed? HV servos? Foam quality? Looks like a HSD one. Hope it’s good quality and the price goes down 🔜

[@ficosk8]

Turbine Kit would be cool also….

[@ficosk8]

Another scheme like RAF or something fancy black would be cool too! 🥰

[@NorthEastFPV]

i do like this ,,,,,very much 👍👍👍👍

[@RAW00815]

Beautiful! How much flight time and how much voltage was left in the batteries?

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

I've been the pilot in Venlo. Telemetry log showed 3,65V/cell after almost seven minutes (!).

[@RAW00815]

​@@airbornjetworkx3317 wow! That is impressive!

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

@@RAW00815 At 7,08kg (2x6s 6200 lipos) she cruises at 55A and glides well without power.. There's also a very good height gain during steep climbs after high-speed passes which can be used for coming down at idle or 1/3 power and keeping it full-scale -Hawk like.

[@crofty_flyer]

Other issues to think of is that they won't have stock of parts after a few months, all that money and not able to buy any spares just like every other Hobbyking model. Sadly they are so far behind the competition

[@Shauncat1]

Looks cool Stuart

[@robertpawlusiak]

Please try keeping the Jet Closer to the Camera. Otherwise good show !

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

Thanks for the advice; the pilot here. It's not easy with that big plane plus it should look a bit scale.

[@Lopez_rc]

A proper air flow into the Edf definitely would’ve made it much more powerful and efficient

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

I agree, but there's no way on that one to make a closed (and efficient) ducting. I'm converting her to a Wemotec unit with a decent bellmouth these days.

[@lukaszJB]

Nice model:]

[@aussierc6788]

Remember the gold old days when hobby king had quality products for a very reasonable price? Order today and you would have it that week. This aint Hobby King...

[@Vltor311]

Nice turbine conversion candidate I suppose

[@jamesonclark5854]

I was excited about this one for months, but they completely missed the mark on pricing. Way overpriced!!! Did HK do ANY research on market price in this size range before slapping that $900 price tag on it??

[@ficosk8]

How cool would have been a fighter jet Delta or semi Delta 🤗

[@PcScience-d9w]

Really $900 and doesn't even come with the wheel brakes? 105mm jets sell for $750 here in the US ( no motor or esc) and still includes the brakes. Sorry this definitely a no go for me.

[@trullmann]

What 105-110 EDF jets sell for $750 in the US?

[@PcScience-d9w]

Af model jets. Like some others mentioned. This is a stripped down af model. You can get a L-39, Mb339. I don’t want to post competitors name here just google it.

[@PcScience-d9w]

@@trullmann Af model 105mm L-39, Af model 105mm MB-339

[@garyrussell7076]

Over priced by a lot.

[@apocalypsedude5446]

Nearly 1000 Euros for a ugly schemed foam model without EDF, ESC and BEC? Are your marketing guys on crack?!

[@brianduffin5405]

I suggest going back to rethink the pricing way too expensive

[@andrewtsousis3130]

$1500 for a foamy with no power system? Ummm?

[@sampamnl.8964]

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[@DonJoh-w5y]

Sorry Stuart I love your products. But this one seems to be overpriced for what you get. Also it would be hell if something gets loose in the cockpit the fan will suck that up. Never seen it this way. Seems cheap. Hope the final product will look better.

[@joshuaburgess4730]

Waaaayyyyyyyy over priced!

[@HobbyKingOfficial]

Hello and thanks for your comments, let’s address them. Pricing wise it’s actually very competitively priced, please take a look at other EDFs at this size and completion point. During extensive testing, we never once had anything suck itself into the fan. You must of course do you due diligence and ensure everything is secure, but that’s a given on a model of this size.

[@ILLSMOQ]

@@HobbyKingOfficial. It’s really not competitive. Other comparable 105mm jets come with more features and actual wheel brakes. Plus the paint scheme and model itself is boring.

[@trullmann]

​@HobbyKingOfficial reading through all these comments, it seems as though many people don't understand the pricing of these larger EDF Jets. They're acting like it's a 70-80mm or something

[@skupper672]

Ridiculous price point. Seriously

[@robinsareolas]

Horrible scheme, and on top of that $900 bucks? No thanks!

[@goldendredger]

Someone got a little excited about putting on a big price tag. No thanks. $399 yes. $899 look what other jets or RC planes I could get! Come on Hobby King. Ok update I just read and your NOT including the edf or esc! Have you guys lost your minds on the price or what? Hobby King the company that provides affordable RC gear and planes. This is the worst plane you have released for a price point ever. I can buy a Viper 90mm from competitors for $599 ready to fly with everything. So slightly bigger edf and no electronics just servos for $899?????

[@trullmann]

It's priced almost the same as other EDF Jets of the same size.

[@itzjoeylo4501]

1/9 scale, or…?

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

1/6.25

[@TheRealCherryFU]

what's the thing with this "williams" wannabe livery?

[@JB73691]

LOL they derived inspiration from Williams F1.

[@kenn6612]

whoa

[@mytubehkjt]

That price !!! Yikes.

[@JDsRCModelWorld-up7ws]

Frank doesn't seem to understand low!

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

He did! But he didn't want to create an epic crash with a "Unicorn" on that day. :) Frank

[@paddar4403]

I really wish hobyking went back to there roots, selling all the cheap wierd, terrible, cool, ugly chinese planes that cost 50 quid for a kit.. There was so much fun in it, you could get 2 planes, but some motors, moddeling materials and a battery or 2 for under 200 bucks.. Tinker and fly to your hearts content.. Thats what made hobbyking so popular.. Why they went the polar opposite always confused the hell out of me..

[@Tronic_]

Hobbyking sucks now

[@maximumdeflection2113]

Foam is getting pricey!! That’s a lot of dough💵💵💵 for a foamie. What happened to Hobbyking making the hobby affordable? Not exactly known for quality merchandise . And yes, I have owned and still have a couple of their offerings. Shitz outta cuntrol!

[@shozzy69]

Sadly just to much money for what you get compared to some of the freewing items available

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

You really can't compare that to any current Freewing EDF jets. I do have that very Hawk here and a lot of 80 and 90mms Freewing models. Those are significantly smaller and none is as efficient as that Hawk.

[@trullmann]

Freewing does not make anything like this

[@shozzy69]

I understand that it’s not the same size etc but I’m just looking at the value, do you think this is good value for money for a foam jet. I know hsd are in this price bracket but again do you think they are good value for a foam plane.

[@airbornjetworkx3317]

@@shozzy69 I think it's a good value for a foam jet in that size. It's scale 1/6.25, have a look at the AF (Aerofoam) T-45 as well and you might find some similarities. It's really a different league and flies very good. That recorded flight was almost seven minutes with 3,65V/cell after landing. You should also know that such big planes are significantly more expensive when it comes to shipping. A composite plane of that class would be much more expensive and the ARF wood jets (e.g. Black Horse L-39) are also in that price range (and not better IMO, i got that L-39 as well). When you're happy with the 80/90mm sized models, stay with these. If you want to go bigger, consider that Hawk.

[@snoriverrc3842]

lol it sounds like a 40mm fan, sorry thats awful.