Holland Track Outback Australia | Toyota Land Cruiser Troopy

A few weeks after returning from the Canning Stock Route I had the urge to do a short track on my own, to review the Land Cruiser, and to experience a slice of outback in solitude. This is the Holland Track, a three day track where the start point was less than a day's drive from my home in Perth, Western Australia. The track was a lot of fun, and makes an enjoyable story.
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[@mattgilley2314]

Still using that phrase daily in our house! Hope you're well. Wishing you a wonderful 2018!

[@lukehaynes2194]

Thingy whatsit works well for things we don’t know the name of. Try ‘Matey’ for people (men) that we don’t know or have forgotten their name.

[@twhaz2001]

Andrew, the noise is a rock between the brake disc and shield. Hard to see with the wheel on. It happens to me all the time when driving thru mud or sand mixed with rocky material. I drive a Ford F-250 (Dana 60 axles) in the states. the breaking sound was the rock leaving. Yes it is a horrible squealing grinding noise and you just know something is going to break. Pull the tire next time and look for debris if it worries you enough. Alone on that track, I would have pulled the tire. Great trip. I enjoyed it and looking forward to the next video.

[@alantd44]

Agreed - stone. Happened to me on a Land Rover Discovery 4 after playing in a quarry. It was actually quite embarrassing driving around my local town with an expensive, new vehicle squealing away - sounded horrific. Cleared after a day or so as the stone broke up. Looks like a lovely track you were on. Great work!

[@renedeboer7348]

yes i was also think about the brakes ,, it sound like it also :-)

[@SimonElenor]

Yep. This is why I remove the backing plates. It does not change. It is a rock Andrew.

[@GavinGillett]

Twh Az Yup, what this bloke said. I had the same noise on the CSR and while I was investigating i moved the brake plate and heard the stone fall

[@dodgyhodgie734]

Yep 100% stone in break, im pretty suprised someone as experienced as him didnt know the noise.

[@wescobts]

I love the fact that you were in AZ and met a family from Tx and they knew you and and knew you enough to remember and hold on to something you said during a meal. You my friend have earned all your success.

[@davidbland1859]

Just wanted to say a thank you to you, Andrew. Just arrived back from the Holland track solo. Thanks to your invaluable advice, it gave me the knowledge to do the trip with confidence. Knowing how to negotiate specific challenges on the track came from all your videos I have enjoyed and absorbed the tips and procedures to get out of a lot of problems on the track. I also believe it is what you have said about knowing your vehicle and its limitations. My 2008 Ford Ranger I dare to say, makes me look good as a 4wder. Thankyou once again.

[@4xoverland]

It's my pleasure. As soon as my Troopy lands, I'm going back to the Holland. Solo.

[@davidbland1859]

@@4xoverland As I said on Facebook, would I do it again? At the drop of hat, the solitude in remote places like that is very memorable

[@derrickmurphy9988]

Cheesie joke makes it all worth while.a kid in Texas watching your channel and that stuck in her head just simply wonderful.

[@johnsandlin7474]

In have not heard the name "Woolworth" spoken in decades! My favorite store here in the states when I was a kid. They all closed over 35 years ago or so.

[@4xoverland]

The brand name is still used in Australia and South Africa, although these two are in no ways connected.

[@TheDimmy666]

Number #1 safety feature you have missing Andrew.SAND FLAG,Dunes and tight tracks,it will save you a lot of grief. Love your videos.

[@michaelnares1217]

This is why I watch, the stories are fine but the excursions are what I enjoy, Thank you!

[@MrAttilaRozgonyi]

What a wonderful way to start the new year. Having recently returned from my own expedition where I spent 4 weeks filming my trip, I’ve realised just how difficult doing the whole thing by yourself actually is. I know you’ve been doing it a long time, but I tip my hat to you Andrew, you have a knack of being able to turn anything into a thoroughly engrossing & entertaining film. Love your work! Happy New Year Andrew! :)

[@swidahooverlanding2867]

Those noise issues use to drive me crazy too. Had a old timer tell me to check for obvious issues if you find nothing obvious ignore it for 3 weeks. After 3 weeks if it's still making noise something is wrong, fix it!. Well have not had to fix anything that has been making a noise in 25 years now. Best advice ever. By the way I knew what it was once I heard it. The directional sound quality was superb!

[@Scchhtivy]

Andrew, the Discovery was a vehicle from another KZbinr's convoy, 'Intents offroad' from memory it was down a couple of tires very quickly but still waiting for part 2 of his video to see how it faired left on the track.

[@robbief1]

Lovely impromptu video.... Superbly delivered, a pure joy to watch as always!

[@johncunningham4820]

That " noise " is why I believe 17 inch rims are the optimal size . Leaves space between the Rim and the Brake Calliper . And there are still plenty of High Profile , Light Truck rated , proper Off-road Tyres available in 50 -60 sizes . R/T , A/T and M/T .

[@malcolmL995]

Lol. Had exactly the same issue on the Holland track in 2016 in out troopy. Tried backing up a few times, didn’t help, drove a short distance, heard a “ping” and never heard it again. Had it happen in other places since. Stone between stone guard and disc. Regards,

[@toddmillar4041]

I loved this vid it made me home sick. I lived in the Goldfields for 20 years and would often take the dog and just drive around the bush, and thats exactly what it looked like.

[@WildTouring]

Great video Andrew. It's an amazing track. We got out there and filmed it a few months ago, plan to do it again with a few extra days to explore all the side tracks.

[@billcrowle]

Loved the diagnostics of the wheel noise! Great idea walking around the moving vehicle! We had rocks jammed in the brake drum in 1965 in our #VWBeetle1965 see on Flickr.. going across the old Eyre Hwy. bang bang and the stone popped out. Never had any trouble like that in #Smoky60Series.. We enjoyed the video, loved the open spaces of the Holland Track too and enjoy the same feelings. See GSWA shots by Spelio on Flickr. Your commentary is better than mine the #Smoky60Series videos on KZbin! I will look for some more of your trips and stories of cheesythingamajigs....

[@ibrahimsharif5319]

Andrew little sand particles hooks up between the back plate and the brake disc, creates that type of funny scriching noises, it once happened to me, I was driving a L/Rover 110 tdi, it is disc brakes all round, I was driving in a bandit prone area and was actually becoming late, the road was muddy and we were 102 kms to our night stop place, and I was carrying team of donors, and I couldn't go under the vehicle to check out, I stopped hurriedly went under the vehicle and nothing was visible, it produce a sound and went off and the noise disappear for good

[@KLRCoop]

I agree a rock on the disc of the brake...

[@powderhogg01]

Andrew, thank you for another great film. I find a lot of inspiration from your work. Congratulations on your recent anniversary, she must be a very special lady. Keep up the good work, cant wait for the next big trips!!

[@L-lp9fl]

27 years,can see why on other video,congrats.Earplugs work sometimes at home and in the bush,thanks again.

[@BubblesTheCat1]

Andrew, that sound is a little stone that got caught between the front brake disc, and the dust cover plate. When you reversed it most probably fell out. I've encountered it twice. Strangely enough both times with an Isuzu bakkie at construction sites ☺☺👋👍

[@andrewkigen]

The production quality has improved significantly. Keep up the good work.

[@RBFR01]

Just rocks in between the rotor and caliper guard, probably when you drove threw that puddle or somewhere but no damage all good.

[@small.towns.open.spaces]

Cheezy Thingy Whatsit! LOL! Enjoy your channel, Andrew! Happy Anniversary!

[@moto_av8or]

The thing I love the most about all of your videos is that you are just as passionate about your Troopy as I am about my Tacoma. The difference is that your wife gets it, and my fiancé is just starting to get it. How long do you think it will take her to believe that I don’t actually love my truck more than her?

[@andrewhowton1961]

That noise is why I've taken the brake shields off of my Rovers. I would always get a little rocks stuck in them.

[@stevenmcnaughton7073]

Agree with the others, it’s a stone between the disc and the backing plate. My 76 series does it from time to time.

[@yorkchris10]

The hubs reminded me of some aftermarket manual hubs made for early Jeeps. Somehow, they offered a kit so you could put them on all four corners. They were known for spinning splines.

[@TheAmazingGrace2]

Great video Andrew. I have only just got back from doing the Holland Track with my mates. We went from Hyden to Coolgardie. Awesome experience.

[@RedEyedJack]

Rock stuck behind the brake rotor and dust shield

[@johnc4774]

great video. happy new year . have you upgraded your camera? image seems much sharper .

[@slowboat6021]

yep I had similar thing. went back and forwards a few times and it cleared.

[@stephan5026]

Was my first though too. I drive a lot of oil field roads in northern Alberta with my Tundra and when it gets a bit muddy you’ll get little rocks between the shield and rotors. Happens to me a lot in the rear. Have considered removing the dust shields

[@RealWorldCarReviews]

That was my thought too. I've had exactly the same and then it went with a bit of a bang. Usually a stone.

[@davidhorrocks2543]

i completely agree. that was my immediate thought as soon as i heard the noise

[@MrKLFKLF]

Congratulations Andrew on your 27th anniversary and Happy New Year.

[@TheSkskitey]

Good solo trip Andrew . Yes a rock stuck in brake caliper or disc will make that noise . If you want to see how the landrover got stuck out there you can watch "intents Offroad" - Holland Track part 2 . Yes wrong tyres for the job , highway rated with thin sidewalls . Like your vids mate , a lot of experience and knowhow :-)

[@Calamiti999Fine]

Greetings to you Andrew and to the Gilley family in San Antonio from another fan in Montgomery, Texas (north of Houston)....good on “ya’ll” and the “Cheesy Things A Whatsit”

[@williamkeating6406]

Super once again Andrew. Thanks, look's like I would love that trail. I find my best trips are with out all the other people around like empty camp spots.

[@nickjennings3500]

loving the "cheesey thingy what's it's"

[@tutekohe1361]

Im a recent subscriber and am loving your channel. Great filming, excellent editing and I love your sense of humour! I lived next to the Holland Track at Newdegate, so this video is pure nostalgia for me.

[@Arda86ca]

"GHOST RIDING THE WHIP" was sooo 2013 ! Just kidding ! It looks like it was the usual case of some stones in the brakes. Great video as always!

[@scottdeney5970]

Yep....Just like all the other's A rock in the rotor and wheel. We all know that sound...ahhh 4 wheelers.

[@raymondlogister6828]

Typical stone between the disc brake. I have had this several times. terrible sound. best you can drive a bit back and then drive back to the front. and you repeat this several times. and then the stone usually comes loose. good video like always.

[@johnc4774]

i agree 100%

[@joybiran5969]

for a wile... the noise was a small stone in between the disks... it happens a lot. can be stopped by driving in reverse

[@mattluszczak6567]

Def rock been there done that too. Freaks you out. Especially when travelling alone.

[@stephenhutton1805]

Hey Andrew Happy New Year. I've been waiting with baited breath to hear your opinion of the Holland track ever since you mentioned it in your C S R videos. I was a little disappointed with the quality of this video; not up to your usual standard but then realised you were doing the whole thing on your own which can't be easy. I've done the Holland four and a half times myself; the first time totally on my own and was quite surprised at the feeling of remoteness. Each time I've done the Holland I've found it totally different; as you say, a little water on the track and things get interesting real fast. Its a pity you didn't get to Cave Hill or Burra Rock before going down the Holland as the old wood line track between them is another good challenge and the wood lands are just spectacular. I look forward to your next instalment of the Holland. regards from Bigezi

[@michaeldally7995]

Stone in the brakes, first time that happened to me I was freaking out, then heard something rattle and ping out as I was driving. Local consensus was it was a stone too.

[@swh5113]

The quality of your videos is wonderfull

[@jasonwilson1771]

The sound in the front wheels would be a rock stuck in between the disc brake and stone guard protecting the disc.

[@Alex.G]

I found your point at about 8:15 regarding automatic hubs very interesting! Patrol auto hubs are notorious for playing up after a while, perhaps not manually locking them has something to do with that.

[@alanpartington86]

sure does

[@RealWorldCarReviews]

Another great video Andrew. Looks like a good adventure and a nice escape from the daily grind.

[@mtk8020]

Hi Andrew; Congrats on your anniversary, Happy New Years and safe travels. Thanks for another great video.

[@benjohnson1082]

Just happened to watch the video with your and Gwen's wedding yesterday on your anniversary as it turns out! Congrats!

[@realasmr538]

That noise I’ve had similar but on early 90s BMW E36 where in the rear discs where stones get stuck and this is really small stones have got in behind the disc where the small handbrake shoes are. And some times the noise goes or 15 min job removing disc for little stone size of a Apple pip

[@kiwizookoffroad2040]

Rock in the disc. Hard braking usually helps to break them up.

[@4xoverland]

I thought that and tried that but it has no effect.

[@dme6991]

As always great video had similar problem in my cruiser once drove me nuts for hours as I couldn’t figure out what it was. As it turned out it was a small rock jammed in between rotar and dust shield I’m not expert but your situation sounded very similar. Keep up the good work

[@j0rzeh]

Brake related sound, I think it's either a rock rubbing in-between the disc guard and the disc, or bent guard rubbing on the disc or brake pad glue has given way and the friction surface has fallen off and it's grinding mental on metal as pads always have little drag, I diagnose this stuff everyday as a mechanic but It's not good when in the outback alone with no spare parts!! :( Great video I would love to be able to do what you do.

[@sinnsmd]

Love the videos Andrew, as always, informative and entertaining. Thank you.

[@MrThefastone]

sinnsmd I

[@josephjoshua6617]

Happy new year Andew it's nice to see you back

[@Calamiti999Fine]

PS. Have had that noise before too from lodged rocks and barbed wire out on family ranches in West Texas on Fords & Toyota trucks. Also will occasionally get squeaky breaks from the Caleche gravel roads.

[@TheLastRezort27]

Far out woulda been mint if I knew you were in Kal, coulda said hello to ya. Good to know you stopped by anyway

[@Sparrowfart2]

Good one Andrew, I enjoyed this a lot. thanks man.

[@TheMattcampb]

Hi Andrew, I'm a big fan of your channel! Was wondering if you have ever considered posting the full roof cam video of your trip similar to the Slow TV trend? I would love to watch you wind through the technical stuff while the baby is napping!

[@matthewrambo7172]

Was going to say rock between heat shield... But it's been said. Surprised that not happened to you before. Anyway, absolutely beautiful photography. Would love to do that route.

[@Dwealdric]

Happy new year Andrew, and thank you for what you do. Loved the cheezy-thingy-whatsit bit.

[@fredbrackely]

Definitely a rock stuck between the brake rotor, and the rotor guard

[@pwatom22]

.. common problem. Had it happen a couple of times.. stone likely caught in backing plate. If you get that again take the wheel off !

[@alphaetomega]

If you haven't had this problem before then you will likely never again. But, if you do. Poke the dust shields away from the rotors with a stick through the rim holes just a little bit and a little stone will pop out of one of them. :)

[@andrewvanstaden8922]

Dongas... he he he. Very African Andrew. Wonderful episode. I hope you tackle each famous Ausie 4x4 trail or track one by one.

[@gerdacoonan7250]

Hi Andrew, Happy New Year. Another great video to kick the year off, . . . fantastic !!, but please Andrew, in Australia the thingamywhatsits are called TRACKS, ie, Holland, Oodnadatta, Colsons, Kokoda etc, . . . . NOT TRAILS !!, trails are elsewhere :) Cheers.

[@simmo8018]

Just a little bog hole brake. Reversing while leaning on the brakes usually pops it out.

[@notinservice3724]

also inspires me to get out more here in B.C. Canada

[@richardsanders2794]

Great video Andrew, informative and entertaining. Happy New Year.

[@stkmkt1]

Happy anniversary Andrew. And happy New Years to you as well.

[@ultramag9413]

I love your passion

[@stephennganga7499]

I get a noise like that sometimes on my defender when a rock gets stuck between my brake disk an that disc guard plate thingy whatsit.. maybe it was that

[@pillay87]

absolutely wonderful your trips are..

[@craigeberhardt1164]

Hi there, I really enjoy your videos! Just picked up a 76 series wagon. What tyres would you recommend for a Simpson Desert trip? Appreciate any advice you have to offer. Keep up the great videos.

[@gotoylc]

What are you storing underneath on the side step brackets? Looks like spare Panhard rods.

[@rustyoverland8574]

Congrads on your anniversary!

[@ScoobyFermentation]

Andrew, with your trouble opening packages and my new interest/obsession with pocket knives, I’d love to know what is your every day carry pocket knife and also if you carry a multi-tool. Thanks!

[@WatchHobbyist]

Just what I needed on New Year’s day. Thanks for the video.

[@neilmilburn5149]

Happy new year Andrew, great vid. Love the color of that truck, really nice.

[@SeanKhoo]

Hi Andrew, I think you should get some sponsorship from Coca-Cola. Every time I watch your KZbin channel, you have a bottle of Coca-Cola with you.;)

[@rainbowofcheese]

I also notice alot of people don't know auto hubs can still be locked manually

[@Christian76S]

stone between disc/rotor and protecting metal sheet.

[@jedisid]

Automatic thumbs up, always love these videos.

[@notinservice3724]

nice to watch

[@lanceroark6386]

I’m of the mindset that manually locking your hubs caused something inside to drag and you heard the hub fully seat when you were changing your camera.

[@jjsadv]

Is there a part 2. There is so much more to this track.

[@grzestojus5152]

Not a rock - a piece of wood in the brake disc. It almost burns when "polished" by brake disc , it sticks to disc a lot better than an irregular shape rock, high temp makes it very hard. The noise is incredibly loud . Louder than a rock and a bit different sound

[@nico2000ad]

beautiful , informative as always, thank you

[@darrenmoore2]

Andrew, you must of just missed us, we saw that disco with the blown tyres too. as for your noise i think it was a stone or stick stuck between the rotor and backing plate, i have had the same a few times and it drives me insane every time it happens. Question, you used to have the soft shower ensuite and now you have the hard cover, any reason for the change? i am in the middile of fitting emu wings to my patrol to do the same mod you have done i think it was a brillant mod. Kind regards Darren

[@Jottingsfrom]

Thanks for posting this Andrew - another vote for a rock/stick on the break shield. so, what was your final assessment of the Holland Track? Did it stay dry?

[@terrydonnell5862]

Hi Andrew, I'm very new at this overlanding and like the Trooper, but have been told that the only problem with any roof top tent is the nose and rocking from high winds. Have you had any problems with this with the roof tent you have fitted on your trooper..? thanks Terry

[@magoo1uk2003]

Great video as always, happy new year from scotland

[@PAS4591]

nice video again Mr thingamywhatsit.I like your recent habit of telling your stories.What size BFG do you have on the troopy again.Seriously considering a 76 wagon and i like my BFGs on my(gasp) Pajero

[@hanscaspersz4900]

Hi Andrew. Just wondered if you have weighed your vehicle in its trip ready state. Ie full of fuel water and everything else. What combined weight did you get. Cheers

[@cvfd555]

Great video happy new year ! Keep up the great work

[@mr.krankypantsakakurt3359]

Rock Or pebble between the brake rotor and caliper ? Been there, done that .

[@Jackalopestravels]

Happy New Year Andrew!

[@karimalameddine5092]

What tires do recommend for my lr3? Please come to Canada and film an expedition there. Not sure if you've driven and suited a vehicle for cold ice and snow though dinner time or gets hot.. :-)

[@mlg404]

Great Video thanks Andrew! Out of curiosity, have you as yet, had to do a DPF regeneration burnoff in the Landcruiser in the bush? I believe it’s done manually in the 79 series......