Holly reacts to a doc I WAS IN - Lolita Reacts

[@LovelyLor]

As of November 2021, Holly and I are no longer together. We are still on good terms and friends but no longer a couple. I hope that out of respect for both of us, you continue the same generous kindness to us individually that you’ve expressed over the years. Please respect whatever boundaries Holly decides to make with the internet. I am grateful for her past involvement in my content.

[@Ronni_ad]

Best wishes to you both ❤️

[@digimaui]

"When you're in a costume people don't treat you like you're a person" YES

[@vulpixxlenya2284]

This is also a big thing with being a cosplayer. Just because someone is in a costume does not mean they suddenly aren’t themselves anymore.

[@edwardtheinsane]

I’m kind of envious and a tiny bit salty that Holly never had to go through an “ita” phase like the rest of us cus she is dating a Lolita goddess. 😅

[@patchworkundead4787]

" ita" phase? I'm new please help

[@edwardtheinsane]

Patchwork Undead Hey! It’s a somewhat derogatory term for someone who hasn’t quite got the hang of lolita yet. Usually they’ve broken some “rule” like no petticoat or have implemented costume-y elements into their coordinate. It’s common to start out a little bumpy when getting into the fashion, since there are so many pieces required for a full coordinate. Most lolita’s have an “ita” phase when they first start. Or it used to be more common when there was not as much info online or as many people to help out new folks. Do lots of research and ask for advice and you may be able to skip the “ita” phase too! Haha. And watch all of Lor’s videos and you can’t go wrong!

[@patchworkundead4787]

@@edwardtheinsane oh okay! Ita:Lolita as Baby Bat:Goth?

[@edwardtheinsane]

Patchwork Undead hmm, I’m not sure! 🤔 I’m not as familiar with the goth subculture. Baby bat sounds a lot nicer than ita though. Lol.

[@patchworkundead4787]

@@edwardtheinsane baby bat is usually what someone will call you if you're a little try hard but don't exactly know what you're talking about

[@zegobou]

Lor : "What do you think?" My brain : "WhAt Do YoU tHiNk?" *SimplyNailogical's montage playing in my head*

[@adlesirgimada3166]

I see you are a man or a woman or watever, of culture ;)

[@madokakaname830]

@@adlesirgimada3166 from now on, say i see you are also a person of culture. i think that would make it easier. and yes, cristine has monopolized that saying lmao

[@loljadloll]

Oof me

[@pumpkinhills7611]

oh my yep

[@acexkeikai]

Same LOL Omg I could hear Christine.

[@DeeProfundis]

That coord on Holly looks cool, totally suits her!

[@GliitteryBlood]

I NEEEEEED to know what lipstick Hollys wearing ITS SO BEAUTIFUL

[@mewiarts4749]

Ikr! She looks amazing with gray hair too

[@splatterjoy6116]

I was wondering who makes her Jsk? It's so freaking adorable!!

[@emiwy_]

@@splatterjoy6116 its an apron from AP!!

[@SusannahWins]

I love that you've been documenting Holly's journey into Lolita fashion. I would love to hear more about her experiences coming into the fashion and coming into it as a tall girl. I could identify with her when you filmed dressing her in a coordinate and she almost got emotional that she was too tall for it. I think tall girls can sometimes be pressured to be dressed more poised or sexy, rather than cute. Anyways... I love it when you guys film together! Your relationship is so sweet!

[@stevieevieee]

Both of your coords are absolutely adorable in this video! 💖

[@courtneycherry7067]

They both look so cute ❤️

[@Unknown_Geek]

One thing I love about lolita is that you can see a little snippet of the wearer's personality in their coord.

[@FattyChan]

I remember when i first watched this documentary i like cried my eyes out alone in my room lol i kno what u mean by having felt like the docu was portrayed as "these people are sad so they need lolita" but for me at the time it felt really validating to see a lot of people with similar struggles to me wearing lolita and that they weren't like weird or broken for liking it, they were just real humans with lives and issues of their own, and it felt good to see that when i was getting started in jfashion and lolita ANYWAYS yall are cute and i do agree u do sound different now lol

[@mewiarts4749]

I'm typing this with a piece of slime lol

[@Flubberduckie]

I watched this with my older cousin in the room and she’s like “what are you watching are those Cosplayers” (I cosplay so that’s what she knows) and I explained it and she’s like “so it’s a lifestyle not a character or a costume?” And I just love how quick she was to be understanding that some ppl just wear what the feel comfortable in and I wanted to share that with y’all.

[@jlbeeen]

"I feel like when you're in costume no one treats you like a person" - Every cosplayer and fursuiter ever It's really too bad, I had to post in a local con's group chat about costumes are not consent because of this.

[@chatterbox1078]

I seriously don't understand people's problem when it comes to treating people differently when they're in cosplay. Like, they're a person too, you wouldn't walk up to a girl on the street and smack them with a paddle just because she had makeup on, so why would you do that with cosplayers? (I'm really glad that yaoi paddles are banned at most conventions so, since I'm a beginner cosplayer I don't have to deal with that, it sounds super painful and uncomfortable.)

[@peterevans6480]

Yeah, I used to think furries were cringe and weird but lately Ive stopped caring and I’ve started respecting them more. I changed my mindset to ‘Ask long as no one is hurt it’s ok.’ and I have felt soo much better about myself. Idc if you’re a furry, if you’re a kind person I have nothing against you. Also that mindset of mine has really strengthened since getting into lolita. I feel like people who are alt understand (or at least should) and accept more different styles and I feel like everyone should be like that.

[@jordang7479]

I would 300% contribute to funding a truly in-depth lolita documentary.

[@chibi-bombyx]

I totally agree!! It’s really cool to see Holly get more into wearing and learn more about the fashion and the scene/community. I love how supportive you both are of each other and the way you communicate as sort of a veteran of the fashion and a newbie sets a really good example. ^^ I think this was a really cool video~

[@TheStrawberryGoth]

As a newbie lolita who's starting to build her wardrobe I agree with what Holly is saying and what you say about having a someone new to the fashion express their feelings about how people view the fashion, also, seeing Holly in lolita is so nice because most lolitas online are well into the fashion and have been for a long time so it's less intimidating for people like me who are slowly sliding into the fashion because someone else new is talking about it, sorry if this doesn't make sense but I appreciated this.

[@JuliesFailLog]

No Holly, you're absolutely right, Lor sounds different in this doc! :0

[@MissScarlettPotter]

I really, really feel you on the “people don’t treat you like a person when you’re in costume” thing, though. Walking down Church Street with full sfx makeup on Halloween was one of the single most dehumanizing experiences I’ve ever had.

[@greyson02]

holly saying "hello friends" is more than anything i ever needed in life

[@Alicehad3cats]

Oh my god! As a Ukrainian, really appreciate this Vinok reference in your style choice:D

[@ReiisLucki]

Every time I watch that documentary, my eyes water like crazy. It was the first time that I didn't feel alone in this fashion and especially when they start talking about size and ED, I felt every word. This documentary is great in so many ways.

[@BooshojoSenshi]

Holly's coord in this made my week. Omg. Both of you look stunning and it's so awesome to see the difference in your styles complimenting each other. Love.

[@stardustgirl313]

Both of you look so pretty! I liked hearing Holly's perspective. Not everyone has a long history with the fashion (myself included), so it's cool to hear from someone who is relatively new.

[@rachelrose4691]

I just started being interested in Lolita and for me it's nice to see Holly learn about it through you. It makes me feel more comfortable cause newbies are usually looked down upon in a lot of communities.

[@LunaMondhexe]

The moment I saw your matching cups I screamed because it's so adorable. You are my favorite couple.

[@bexthewitch87]

You both looks so cute! This documentary is the best one ever in terms of explaining lolita to others. I love that Holly reacted to it :)

[@benjibennett2589]

honestly i think these are my favorite cords from them so far! i dont know why but both of them just struck something in me and i love the bat apron holly is wearing so much! its little face is so cute! and the colors of lors dress and the little bows looked really nice with her yellowish wig!!! their cords just made me smile this video.

[@philllison783]

Holly’s coordinate is so cute!!!

[@pinkwyvern]

and also, agreed!!!! hollys commentary is great and seeing people who are newer to the fashion react is always cool

[@helenchuu2092]

Thank you Holly because when I first heard Lor on the video I was like "oh her voice is different" and then you said it so yes!! it's not only you!! Lor's voice sounded more like... rough? on the documentary!

[@liubovliubov]

Wow! This is the first time I heard about your Ukrainian heritage. I'm from Ukraine and we have a tiny Lolita community here.

[@NickkkRR]

I loved hearing Holly's input! I wish more new lolitas would make videos on KZbin, because it is so refreshing and nice to see people go through things you've been through, or experience things you've never thought of before even if you've been in the fashion a while. Great job Holly!!!!!

[@MrThewizard101]

Look at this BEAUTIFUL bat coord oh my gosh, you both look darling as usual!

[@Schwarz_Sinister]

This was adorable!! I loved seeing Holly react!

[@thelegendofdoda9764]

I just realized that with you and Holly both wearing lolita fashion you basically can have two closets and have access to darker coord options and she could go more sweet if she wanted! That's the dream 😍

[@smallpurin8079]

I hope Holly will become more comfortable sharing how she has come to understand the pet peeves/obstacles lolitas go through and how she relates to them 🎀🖤⭐️

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

0:55 I really loved Sugar Coated, especially when I first saw it. It was the first time I saw another guy interested in Lolita fashion and it meant a lot to me.

[@princecharmless4964]

KZbin recommended this video to me just today out of the blue, which was odd because periodically I think about this documentary now and then but I didn't realize it was made in 2013. I thought it was more recent than that, but it was such a long time ago. During that time I was in one of the most abusive relationships I'd ever been in and I was living in a very toxic abusive home situation as well. I never talked about it, but going to meets and hanging out with the others of the LA Lolita Comm and enjoying Lolita Fashion itself was one of the few things that brought me joy during that time. Looking back on this now, I do agree with the sentiment that this was less a Lolita Documentary and more of a People That Wear This Fashion and Who They Are Documentary, and at the time I was a bit bothered by that. But looking back on it now in 2020, that doesn't completely bother me anymore? It was just very nice to look back and see a mini-reel in time of all of the people I've made friends with over the years, who are still in my life, but whom I should actually reach out to now that I'm in a better place. Despite it not having been the documentary that you wished for, it's still a lovely look back in time, especially now that Fairytale Boutique is no longer in business ( ugh, rest in pieces ). I'm grateful that I could be part of this in a small way with the people of my community who I'm really missing in 2020. Thank you so much for continuing to be a delightful person.

[@weaselkish9188]

Omg loved holly and loved both of your cords!

[@ThymeofGhost]

Hey I’m not in the Lolita community and I’m watching! I appreciate the commentary holly!

[@DimzBundy]

I agree with Holly, I noticed that Lor's voice sounded different when the doc was playing. It was like it was deeper or something lol

[@HauntinglyAsh]

I’ve been binging Lolita videos (I literally know nothing about it yet but it’s fascinating me!) but man your girlfriend’s outfit is EVERYTHING.

[@jordang7479]

About Lor sounding different now compared to in the doc. As we age our voices get slightly deeper so you could be hearing the five year difference which wouldn't be super noticeable unless you hear then and now side by side.

[@hikaduck]

Always love your content! I'm commenting for the first time because Holly's eyeliner is POPPIN

[@teaandlace1472]

So wholesome and I always enjoy Holly on the channel

[@uniquelyholden]

What a fun video! Love hearing Holly's commentary. You both have such beautiful coords, too!

[@harmonyspath3886]

Holly looks so good! (Well, Lor does to, but we expected that.)

[@SebastianSeanCrow]

3:23 so Jordi’s a girl? Wow. But like... does that mean she’s trans? That... I can’t describe how that makes me feel other than talking about how warm and fuzzy I am inside to see someone like me within the Lolita community.

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

I was wondering about that too. Is he actually trans or are they just calling him she because he’s gay and enjoys wearing dresses.

[@lanadelsultana]

@@batmanlikespizza2541 hey putting "she" in quotes and misgendering her is in fact really transphobic

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

Lana I’m sorry if my question comes off as being transphobic because that was not my intent. I asked because both he/she are used at various points and I was curious if they were trans or just gay and being called girl because it’s not uncommon.

[@usagiprincess4387]

I don’t think Jordi was out at the time that this documentary was made

[@kuroyamaevisekai]

@@batmanlikespizza2541 why would they call her 'she' if she's just a cis gay man enjoying dresses unless they're doing drag, that'd just be homophobic.

[@princessnoodley]

I love this documentary so much! I wish everyone who needs to learn about lolita fashion could see it!

[@arthurvalentine3524]

Hey! About venok! You can adjust more ribbons for more of this Ukrainian flavour

[@arthurvalentine3524]

Also you can use like printed ribbons with cute pictures or in pastel colours

[@cassandramontgomery8242]

I feel like Lor missed the perfect opportunity to say "You know what really Ruffles my Ribbons!" instead of feathers... Also, I think you should use this as your new way to describe being "Really Ticked Off" LOLOL Love both of you!!!!!

[@rein7526]

I think she said "petti" like petticoats!

[@levi320]

I love this documentary because it really helped me explain Lolita to my mom because I was like "I wanna wear Lolita!" and she just started queuing up the stereotypes/typical assumptions

[@ginger243]

Hey Lor, I doubt you'll see this but I just wanted to thabk you for the content you make. I am just getting into lolita and just wore my first coord to a con I went to with friends after having the dress a year. Seeing both you and Holly in the fashion really helped me gain confidence to wear it. I never thought I could do this because I was a bit on the taller side and I thought my short ginger hair would clash with the style. Your content has really helped me realize I can do lolita as I am. Thank you.

[@rowanhoyt2509]

I LOVE Holly's bat motifs!!

[@mamachicken1548]

Hey Lovely Lor!!! I just wanted to say I thought the doc was made very nicely. They were showing how it was a true lifestyle and it was nice to see the stories of different kinds of people can embrace that lifestyle and get satisfaction out of living it!! Go Lolita!!!

[@BlackParade727]

Omg your headpiece is so cute!! (Or probably a bow and seperate clips?) It's like the cuteness of a bow but with extra happy confetti time

[@bemmis]

Omg LovelyHolly is my favorite KZbinr lol But nah, holly you have every right to express your thoughts and opinions. And I’m so so happy that you’ve gotten into Lolita too and have developed your own style. On the thought process of “why does Lor sound different”, Lor you’re actually right with your last comment. Your manner of speaking is taking on more Canadian qualities! But it’s nice! Lastly... YOU should make a doc! For real!

[@PrimadonnaDoll]

I have the same story about the girl who struggled with an ed. (Sorry forgot her name) I’ve had one for 4 years and after starting therapy I am finally recovering and even though I still have bumps along the way, lolita and harajuku fashion have made me finally love myself. I wore my first coord today and I almost cried because I was like wow I can finally look in the mirror and think I look beautiful and I’m so confident. I started tearing up at her story

[@julietagimenez8065]

OMG I remember I watched this back in like, idk, 2014? And I was upset at how little views it had back then, because I found it to be so sweet!

[@someone3011]

Honestly I just love couple content

[@Nerdygoddess]

I don't see them as needing Lolita because they are sad. More like Lolita makes them happy, and people judging them incorrectly based on Lolita makes them sad. Saw a lot of defensive in it.

[@NutCase]

I love LOVE Holly's Coord in this!

[@QuiteTootsie]

Hey I'm not a lolita! I LOVE the fashion but am very new so I actually love hearing holly's commentary because I feel similarly, but yet still havent experienced the discrimination! Anyways love both of you and the vids :P keep making videos ! And dont worry about ur commentary holly it's good!

[@ni-kingtaehyunjkyoongs2758]

Holly looks so good. The outfit totally suits her.

[@reesemalo]

I love Holly's coords so much!

[@mkgirl19]

To address what Holly said at around 7:25, I was both of you 😂 I always had to wear uniforms at school, but before I started school or when I was outside of it I always wore Disney princess or witch costumes and stuff haha. I only wore "normal" clothes like t-shirts and jeans when I was going to a park or somewhere else I needed to be active or could my clothes could get dirty/damaged

[@natsuki4021]

LMAO when she said people who are into j-fashion had to wear uniforms, I felt that lol. I love alternative fashions (lolita being one of my favorites, which Im hoping to get into more when I have a job and Im able to buy stuff for it) mostly because I always had really strict rules on what I could and couldnt wear.

[@datroy3647]

Holly’s coordinate is everything

[@frillyberry]

Agreed! I’m so proud of Tyler

[@Katssokawaii]

That was adorable. Holly looks so cute! 💖

[@debradavis3935]

You two are so adorable! Holly looks especially cute! 💜💜

[@lovernumber7]

Holly's outfit is my whole life right now. ALL OF IT

[@pannistevinkel]

I absolutely love what Holly is wearing in this video.

[@elskaalfhollr4743]

“Your voice sounds different” me playing I won’t say I’m in love on my head. The6 sooo cute

[@IonIsFalling7217]

Holly’s look is 🔥

[@GothMusicLatinAmerica]

I remember this documentary. It's interesting seeing how much you've all changed.

[@rueriddle]

I didn't get " these people are sad so they need Lolita" at all. I actually understood what lolita is better after seeing this. I am not desiring to wear lolita but I like the fashion. There is no way you can meet up with someone wearing lolita and not smile. It's such a happy fashion!

[@kittikat4124]

(I dont want this to sound weirdd ahhh) I couldnt stop glancing at the bat collar because he’s just so cute and happy!!! That dress/jsk is super cute!

[@lexagrrl]

Is it weird that I don’t dress in Lolita fashion at all, nor do I think I ever will as it’s just not my style, but yet I think it’s incredibly beautiful and fascinating? I’ve been watching your videos for almost 2 years now and I was just thinking I might be one of your only viewers who isn’t a Lolita wearer but still watches you on the reg haha

[@notquitechaos6705]

i love holly's bat outfit!

[@45Cheli]

That documentary is how I found out about lolita 😁 even tho I'm not one I always get excited when I see lolitas in public 😁 especially since I work in an amuesment park the coords match the theme of the park which is really cute 😁😁😁

[@ShadowTora]

Hey Lor! Long time sub here - I just wanna say I love your videos! I used to be into the Lolita fashion and even though now I've moved away from it (adulting sucks 😅), I still really enjoy your content ❤

[@autumnclockwork]

We NEED a Lolita fashion documentary form Lor!

[@kawaiimagicalex5170]

i love you Lovely Lor and you and others inspires me

[@Kebbythetraveler]

I remember watching Sugarcoated when I was first learning about lolita (also Shit Lolitas Say xp) - really helped me understand and care about the fashion and community! also your voice is deeper/more tomboyish in your older videos and I can hear a difference - not a bad thing just different

[@Charlie-v4s3q]

I love the crown flower with lolita fashion it is so pretty

[@lacybookworm5039]

I love Holly's coordinate. 💌

[@WonderfulAkari]

I feel like her vlog camera doesn't do her justice. also she should invest in the short range clip-on mics so they can run a fan.

[@cacticauldrons]

The bat apron is so cute!

[@TT-ln9lu]

I need holly’s whole coord holy shit

[@allyrae333]

OMG you're so dedicated! You really turn the AC off to film?! Hard core *likes video

[@Knovastreams]

I just came across your videos recently and I totally love you and holly! You guys are so cute and funny and you’ve totally inspired me to wear Lolita. I’m not sure where to start tho! Hopefully you see this and give me some guidance (:

[@careyrey1718]

Ahh omg I'm so sad. ;w; I really love Lolita fashion and I want to know more about it. For example: You always say you're searching for a specific dress but I wouldn't even know where to look and all these rules. It's a little overwhelming for me and I feel like I am not that confident to wear it in public (even though I would love to) but.. yeah. I love your outfit so much ;w; it's so cute. Everything about you and Holly is cute. I'm a mess xD 💕

[@charissadubin9355]

Lor your coordinate is adorable!!!! What print is that?

[@pinkwyvern]

God I miss Fairytale Boutique :'0 I got my first ever lolita dress there! It was My Favorite Things by BtSSB...also this video is so cute!!! bless

[@reinaxmoonlitrose5623]

I'm a newbie too holly~ 💕 Also you both look so cute and amazing 😍

[@RoscoSea]

Yesssss Holly's look

[@Naomi-ni6ep]

I think it's understandable for people who don't know much if anything about Jfashion/alt fashion, to see it and think it's a costume. The first time I saw someone in lolita I thought it was a costume. I'd never seen anything like it before, and also the place I saw them was at a friends birthday that was 'Mad hatters tea party' themed. So I assumed it was an Alice inspired costume. I remember asking a friend about it (as I didn't know the lolita) and she said 'that's just what she like to wear'. Which is cool, but I wish i'd had been told more about so I could have learnt more about it at the time.

[@TheInadoll]

Wua tell me what JSK is Holly wearing? I am sorry to ask so blunt. UPS Just watched till the end and saw the Outfit rundown. Thank you for that! You two look lovely btw. I think what you two said is true. The documentary was more a personal story than an informative take on Lolita fashion. I don’t know why but most people who don’t know or don’t understand the fashion use this way for talking about it. It is like they want to find something odd.

[@vimerveilles]

Holly is SO CUTE IN THIS OUTFIT!!! Congrats Lor on having the cutest matching GF

[@carliegriffiths6290]

Holly don't feel shy with your comments. As someone who has had an outside appreciation for lolita fashion, and is trying to pluck up the courage ( and budged :P ) to join in, getting your feedback is really helpful!

[@TheCoyoteOutlaw]

I watched this documentary first when I finally decided to embrace my inner lolita. I cried because I come from a situation similar to Jordi(?); whenever I had an interest in anything considered "not normal", my parents hated it and it would cause a lot of problems. Ever since I was little, I wanted circle lenses. I was told they were weird, immature, and for "those people". To this day, I have no idea what that means. I kept dreaming about it for fifteen years before I finally decided to do my own thing and to heck with everyone's opinions. I constantly hear that I'm "never going to find someone dressed like that" or "if anyone finds out you do that/are into that, they'll leave you." I'm still fighting with it and I'm sure once they see me in a full coord, it'll cause problems. Sorry, I went off there, but I know I'm not alone in this. If you're in a similar situation, I'm sorry but also know it will get better. If it makes you happy, hold on to it.

[@treytha2369]

Damn who cut onions around here, my eyes won’t stop tearing up