Hollywood SMASHES Writers CANCELS Trash Contracts

Secret Invasion has ended but with the SAG-AFTRA and WGA Hollywood strikes continuing, many more will follow. As the strikes enter the 90 day length studios are enacting force majeure to cancel many of the contracts that were previously binding to save money. Indiana Jones 5, The Flash, Secret Invasion have all cost studios money that didn't need to be spent. And as the strikes continue to cause more losses, studios are taking the time to cut costs.
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[@disparutoo]

As the Hollywood writers and actors strike continues, SAG-AFTA have pulled out the big guns. But as actors are normally used to being given a script, their responses are not exactly unique or even exemplary. Because as we've seen with Secret Invasion, Rings of Power or She-Hulk, the writers are not particularly talented in the first place. So the scripts they write for their strike talent, are not convincing either. If anything, it's just another case of self insert morals, opposite to that of the audience they're trying to court. And when Hollywood itself has so much to gain from AI and smaller writers rooms, combined with a desperate need to cut costs due to lack of profit. I can't see WHY they'd want to compromise with the actors and writers in the first place. But what do you think? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@nahtesalinas1917]

That "show" was *terrible*

[@technofeeliak]

Come on. You know these writers are having to go along with the woke politics. If they had to power to force the direction of the material and weren't just encouraged or ordered to we wouldn't have all the nonsense. Your reasoning for writers putting all kinds of protections in their contracts is like me installing locks on my doors in my apartment. It's known that Hollywood is scummy and people get burned all the time. So to your point about the writers, seemingly preparing to be fired as though they plan on doing a poor job, I think most of them just know to protect themselves. And what we're shown in interviews as woke writers are the fringe minority.

[@The_Punisher]

Ironic Aquaman selling water

[@BoojayDeeth]

Are you interested in reviewing Good Omens 2?

[@markh4473]

In my opinion with the amount of overwhelming crap that hollywood is putting out I say let hollywood destroy itself

[@thePsiMatrix]

Cranston also said he'd be an ex-citizen if Trump got in and then he... stayed exactly where he was.

[@solan7978]

It's a shame we can't exile and strip the citizenship of everyone famous who swore to leave the U.S. if Trump was elected.

[@carried9130]

Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnell said they'd move to Canada. I was so surprised they stayed in a country they seem to hate so much.

[@JB-yb4wn]

@@carried9130 We didn't let them in, we have a minimum IQ requirement for people immigrating to Canada.

[@unimpartialobserver]

@@JB-yb4wn Yeah, it'd look pretty bad if someone immigrated and then got MAIDed.

[@DaniG.German883]

@@JB-yb4wnreally? Then why is turdeau your prime minister?

[@keiichi8191]

As someone who has largely checked entirely out of Hollywood over the last 3-4 years of utter garbage, I find it immensely entertaining watching that whole industry burn. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving group.

[@TPLeatherworks]

Literally exactly how I feel. They’ve tried to destroy society with their insane agendas and openly showed hate to us for not swallowing it down gleefully. Watching them pitch a fit is delicious.

[@angel8fingers]

I concur

[@conradsutton]

"They took our yobs!" I bet that South Park episode isn't quite as funny to these coddled writers and actors, now.

[@geeros41]

Agree total rubbish they have put out and expect people to continue to watch, years they have demanded insane wages, well as they say the gravy boat has run out of gravy!

[@deandrenicholas2545]

Hard to feel sorry for any of them....

[@rhekman]

I understand that low level acting jobs can be very hit or miss, but $1082 a day means they only need to work 35 days a year to reach the US Median Individual Income. If they work 100 days a year (2 days a week for 50 weeks), that $108k puts them in the 84th percentile of income earners.

[@ptonpc]

I remember a interview with one of the actors of B5 (AFAIR he was one of the Centuri Emperors) He said that when he was not on set acting, he did his *other* job working on housing. He kept his tool belt in his car.

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

Part time pay for part time work. Just like greedy, whining public school teachers.

[@johantolli372]

"Starvation salary"

[@alberto5770]

I worked from 18 to 39 in the spectacle environment with several companies for music, theatre, events... We all had this as a side hustle because some months we would work 15days and get a nice was, but other maybe just 4 because things happen at the same time and you have to choose for example circle du soleil or slipknot...

[@aludrenknight1687]

It's difficult because that is only if they have a line to say in a show - which is extremely rare. Plus, you need a 2nd employer willing to have you vanish for 35 days a year with little to no notice. Plus the 70 days it took to show up for audition for those 35 days. Plus the intermittent calls you can't miss that could last moments or many long minutes. Now, actors are very aware and often get flexible jobs like waiters - though still often fired for no-shows. The other side is, if production companies don't provide salaries to take those issues into account then they will not have people to play roles or write content. The biggest issue, afaik, is what Disparu is talking about - the big contracts to big names and studio suits that make shows and movies unprofitable. It isn't the idea of paying the day actor 5x these salaries that's a problem, it's the $20 million a year to Waller-Bridge for "maybe doing something".

[@yourikhan4425]

As long as they are on strike, they aren't damaging our culture. I hope they keep on striking.

[@dt_052]

To be fair, if your culture is so vulnerable to damage from Hollywood, maybe you should just spread it on your own and ignore the detractors.

[@nickullery9406]

​​@@dt_052huh? Yeah unfortunately kids are vulnerable by nature

[@dt_052]

​@@nickullery9406Sure, but exposing your kids to your culture through Hollywood is extremely flawed. Expecting somebody else to teach your children your culture is a bad idea. PG means parental guidance for a reason. As a parent you should expose your child to all sorts of entertainment/art, good and bad, to teach them what you think is okay and what isn't.

[@Markunator]

Well, that’s pretty fashy-sounding talk.

[@dt_052]

@@Markunator ummm what?

[@CapitalTeeth]

After seeing the movies we "lost" to this strike, I can confidently say I hope both sides get a bad ending from this.

[@GJ-wy1il]

You can't even use the word talent anymore without laughing.

[@beedlll]

i wanna watch Dune2 though T-T

[@Thebigbad1013]

The fact that these contracts were ever agreed upon, like to pay someone 60 millions dollars over three years to maybe, possibly do a little bit of work of them, if they feel like it, is just utter madness to me!

[@PAGoTribe1963]

Kinda like Congress, amirite?

[@Charlii931603]

​@@Kampfmuelleryes blame the unions that literally are there to aid people being extorted by their employers organization.

[@palladiamorsdeus]

​@@Charlii931603It's been a loooonnggg time since that were true.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

Amazon gave Damon and Ben like 160 million for some spec projects. No one is worse than Hollywood at spending money

[@dwightcurrie8316]

You mean like Barry & Moochelle(I Ain't Doin Shit, Because we don't have to, but pay us anyway) Obammys, or Duchess Of Nuthin Meghan, and Prince Harry The Cuck? Don't know why I thought of them, but they just popped into my head.....They're probably Creative Geniuses N Sh*t,and I'm just to much of a Plebe to grasp their Wonderousness

[@moseshorowitz4345]

It's interesting to hear Hollywood actors complain of "starvation wages" not only for the $1K/day rate, but for the fact that they get fed by Craft Services while on location.

[@jaysvilla]

Agreed smh. I used to work a 45 hr a week hard labor job for about 1200

[@ameliaward7429]

Shocking what people will participate in for little more than a free lunch.

[@Mitzoplick]

I bet they price shop for the staff that work in their multiple houses.

[@DirtPoorWargamer]

@@jaysvilla I make

[@ericvulgate]

I did the same in Phoenix. Spent a summer guarding a parking lot. Miserable work!

[@MakeitZUPER]

When the tradesmen were out of work, the Hollywood community told them to learn how to program/code software. Now that it's Hollywood's turn, the people on strike can learn how to code AI for all I care.

[@ptonpc]

Ahh but you see, that's different. When the tradespeople are out of work, that doesn't affect the writers and actors. Now it affects *them* they think we should care.

[@MakeitZUPER]

@@ptonpc precisely, they are the privileged and revered as stars so we should flock to their cause as if they are US royalty or something, lol.

[@ptonpc]

@@MakeitZUPERExactly :P

[@harbl99]

Didn't see all this fuss and solidarity when the physical model makers, set makers, matte painters, etc. were replaced by computers. They just had to learn new skill sets. Makes you think.

[@josephbrown9685]

@@MakeitZUPERMake no mistake about it. Many of them do think they are royalty and the rest of us are the plebs who should revere and pay to see their movies no matter what. Think about the times we’ve been insulted for not liking and supporting their productions. They think they are better than us.

[@domesticdragonwaffle]

As a writer who has been continually passed over because I refuse to join a union and have common sense when it comes to my political leanings, I hope this means that writers like me can finally GET work from these wokies.

[@dwelfusius]

for our entertainment and your livelyhood, i hope so

[@Zebiekistis]

Them calling themselves "labourers" in "this industry" just rubs me the wrong way. You do not work in construction, you do not shift around 250kg palets in a warehouse, nor do you work the entire day doing roadwork or gardening/landscaping. You are a monkey on a stage paid to perform. Momorising lines and doing the occasional pirouette does not equate to doing a hard days labour.

[@JustGimmeAFrakinName]

i don't think you understand what labour is. also, physical labour jobs needing to be paid better (with exit strategies baked in for older workers), does not preclude other labour positions. you've been brainwashed against other labourers by the owners leveraging your sense of pride, fairplay and "work ethic".

[@Dev-bn8ps]

Acting is indeed labour but they're extremely different from the working class

[@Zero41sv]

@@JustGimmeAFrakinName No, I'm afraid it's you that is mistaken. The word 'labourer' has a very specific meaning. These people are not labourers. They're workers, granted, but they are, definitionally, not labourers.

[@Zero41sv]

@@Dev-bn8ps it's not labour. It's work. A labourer is a very specific set of workers, middle class writers and actors are by no reasonable definition labourers.

[@angelm365]

​@@JustGimmeAFrakinName 0😊😊

[@AlternativPerspectiv]

What I find frustrating is that no one ever demands that big name actors share their salary with everyone in the production in the name of "equity, inclusion and diversity" (which they virtue-signal daily)... You let them get away with too much... literally.

[@SirBlackReeds]

That's not frustrating. That's just annoying. What's frustrating is the foreknowledge that, much like how Caesar and other Roman elites fled to Greece as Rome was being sacked by the Goths, the Hollywood elites who run the major film studios will flee CA just before it finishes crumbling to crap.

[@lifeonmars4088]

Do you share your own salary with co-workers who are paid less?

[@ryanbarker5217]

it's the height of idiocy for ron perlman to complain about a CEO of an international multi-billion dollar mega-corporation responsible for more than 200,000 employees making $27M a year when idiots like will smith makes $35M for 'emancipation.' who deserves that $27M more, ron, the guy with zero responsibility who puts in a couple months into a project, or the guy who's on call and probably works umpteen hours every day wondering if some underperforming division will affect the stock price or if his business decision that's written about in business journals and history books will destroy the company? i'm no fan of iger by any stretch, but if we're making one-to-one comparisons then let's be fair about it.

[@O1OO1O1]

​@@lifeonmars4088yes

[@Trollificusv2]

@@lifeonmars4088 Zero points for you. Because I'll be he doesn't make 200 times what his co-workers make. That's because he probably works for a company that has somewhat sane wage policies. Unlike what CEOs and "stars" get, compared to the poor "only works 6 days a year" SAG members you seem to car5e so much about. Tell ya what. If a SAG member doesn't make $20k for two years in a row, send them a counsellor to advise they find some other field of endeavor. Then, if they want to continue the cruel schedule of 10 failed auditions a week and not making enough money, it'll be clear it's THEIR sacrifice, not the result of somebody else being cruel to them. Nobody tells people they HAVE to be in movies, you know?

[@catbert2412]

My favorite part about all this is that they can’t understand why the public isn’t supporting them after years of them creating crap & attacking the public for not liking it

[@dorianleakey]

It's the executives who are primarily responsible for the crap though, and they never have to pay the price, in fact their pay goes up when they punish others for their mistakes.

[@toshland5687]

@@dorianleakeyIt’s a collective effort. The executives have final say, but actors, writers, directors etc. don’t do themselves any favors when they actively despise half their audience while demanding millions of dollars for crappy product.

[@MadeAlurik]

They told me not to watch if I didn’t like it.

[@MadeAlurik]

@@dorianleakeyso the response to executives deciding to ruin franchises is to tell me to not watch if I don’t like it? Also, the Witcher being ruined had zero to do with executives making decisions. The writers literally said they hated the stories that made the franchise as big as it was, and were not going to follow the storyline. That’s not executives, that’s writers deciding that for themselves.

[@dorianleakey]

@@MadeAlurik We know that about the witcher writers 3rd hand, exectutives dont sit back and let them do what they want, they tell them what to do. They choose writers and showrunners for shows. This bullshit to stop the people who do the work getting paid and only pay the people who control things and ultimately do the fucking up is daft, authoritarian bollocks.

[@widerje]

The fact they call themselves laborers is hilarious. The millionaires calling for revolution don't realize they will be eaten first.

[@geekarchivistpearce828]

And they deserve Hell and the trappings

[@rogercotton5134]

Theirs is a very Comrade way of thinking.

[@gridley]

Woke rank-and-file versus woke executives/woke corporations is a case of woke midgets (not from any live-action Snow White, however) fighting among themselves

[@Shishomuru]

I have zero sympathy for these people. Half the jackasses on strike probably work less than 50 days a year and are horrible writers who need to be fired anyway.

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

And a whole lot of America is hungry...

[@parycartoons6840]

The idea of 6 writers minimum per project regardless of if they're needed or not would turn screenplays into the class projects experiences we've all had where there's that one person who's kinda there are barely does anything, if anything at all, but they write their name on it so you all get the same grade (or in this case, pay).

[@claytoncourtney1309]

OR in the case of a TV Series you could have no continuity between plots and characters

[@Sin_Shadow_Fox]

I honestly think the whole "we'll make our own indie studio to create competition" is hilarious and i want them to do it. When they fail horribly they will have finally run out of people to blame for their horrendous content and finally be forced to realize They're The Problem XD

[@jasonbaird1645]

I want them to do it, too. There's no better way for them to find out what their work is really worth than to go into business for themselves. They'll also learn that it's not that easy to eat a billion-dollar loss caused by incompetent work.

[@tenshoincc6687]

This is equivalent to threatening to start your own business since you don't get paid enough. Doesn't quite work

[@FunPicard]

I suspect it would end the way that all female company did. Principles and luxury beliefs are all good and well, until you're the one picking up the tab.

[@willcrazy42]

I think the best way to summarize the lack of sympathy for these people is to remind them that 'Learn to code' was a thing... and that went over great

[@gisellej182]

I forgot they were pushing that freaking hypocrites 😂

[@GJ-wy1il]

lol I thought the same exact thing

[@gabbodelaparrawrites]

The actors bought into the studios shenanigans and treated the consumer like crap and now that the studios turned against them they want the consumer to support them. Never spit upwards, it might fall on your face later.

[@silverscorpio24]

These strikes are like the toddler that regularly gets a scoop of ice cream but throws a tantrum because he now wants two.

[@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173]

Or like a grown man/woman that shits itself and refuses to stop unless you pay it..

[@a4san99]

You just described my baby brothers state right now ahaha.

[@ReformedSauron]

And Cranston dares to talk about dignity.... 😆

[@Charlii931603]

​@vladimirspoutine1264you sound like you need to make up a justified reason as to why you're a piece of shit human being when dealing with those who are down on their luck possibly. As a society, i think we literally act like we have values for human life but obviously ya don't.

[@AKATenn]

Wich would be fine, if they did their homework first... if they were making things people cared about, I'm sure the studios would be willing to give them what they want if they didn't have to look for a way to make something people do want.

[@ronque23]

I’m really glad I came across your video. It’s a testament to listen critically to both sides and you provide valuable and thoughtful counterpoints to the actors/writers strike that most people can relate to.

[@thomassmyth65]

We don't need Hollywood, it's just pointless entertainment, this is just making us looking for a different escape, good job actors and writers

[@HiroKompleX]

If writers want to demonstrate their worth...current Hollywood is the wrong time to do it lol

[@Zero41sv]

I just love how writers, actors and media types try to adopt the language and aesthetic of a working class they are so far removed from, it's comical. Working class strikes work because the work they do is actually important.

[@crazylegs1823]

And usually provides a NEEDED product and/or service.

[@Zero41sv]

@@crazylegs1823 Precisely. Not sure about you, but content has been so poor lately, or preachy, that I've resorted to researching good stuff or researching twenty year old shows I missed at the time because they are, consistently, simply superior. The idea of these people not making any content feels like a reward.

[@carried9130]

​@@Zero41svit is indeed a reward! Excellent point!

[@Sorain1]

@@Zero41sv Dead on. The longer this goes on, the better the results will be for everyone outside of Hollywood itself. So let it last until the guilds crumble into ruin and the studios assets are auctioned off, their brands buried and equipment the property of businesses interested in doing business, not activism.

[@lareolanKFP]

@@Zero41sv That's why I haven't been to a movie theater in over 3 years now, and don't plan on going back any time soon. Why waste good money on this garbage when KZbin, Twitch and Kick are free and have much better content on them, generally.

[@twonumbernines7866]

How is Ron Perlman 73 years old, but somehow has the mind of a teenage girl.

[@MrJedi20]

I said this about 3 weeks ago that Hollywood execs were about to do a purge because writers were costing them money with bad writing and I got called crazy and stupid. Pretty ironic, huh?

[@vinnyward6547]

With the amount of crap these writers have churned out recently they are not winning me over with their strikes, in fact i think it can only be good for viewers in the long run.

[@GKSchattenjaeger]

This strike has generated the perfect climate to remove shows and writers and such that were not profitable at all and were just DEI sludge.

[@JB-yb4wn]

Well the good thing about the strike is that slut, Jaden Pinkett Smith, isn't making any cringeworthy films.

[@iansoforth]

Inevitable. Possibly the highest paid industry in the world hits a period of decline. Wait until Farrell hears whose paycheck is supposed to get a hefty trimming.

[@disparutoo]

Standing shoulder to shoulder with the WAIT NO NOT ME I WAS JUST JOKING BRO

[@Pawnlust]

This just really isn't true except at the very top level. If you look at a less biased source than this, you'd see that most of these points are naive and rather ignorant of the fact that we create these systems for human benefit (or at least that's the claim).

[@jeffdredd1172]

​@@Pawnlust So why don't you fill us in on our naivety? What should we considering?

[@iansoforth]

Human benefit. What a wonderfully mercurial thing.

[@Pawnlust]

@@iansoforth Yes, it's not exactly a topic for a YT comment. However, the basic necessities should not be all that debatable and yet we often treat each other worse than dogs.

[@shawncarter7188]

Good start. Now they need to fire whomever hired them in the first place.

[@chongli3007]

Small 🧢s

[@macethorns1168]

*whoever

[@dextercochran4916]

A lot of actors are about to learn just how big that bubble was that they're used to living in. They're about to discover a whole new level of reality and how deep the disgust for them as people goes in the real world. I can't wait! 😁

[@Matthewwithers33]

Actors and writers don’t realize they did this to themselves. In a time when normal people are strictly budgeting their money (even after a pandemic that shut down cinema and movies overall and taught people life will go on without movies) the rich movie people want more money for trash and then wonder why no one cares

[@ottomanwilde4836]

Except the writers and actors that are striking aren’t rich! They’re the ones who are just trying to make a living while the execs sit in their mansions raking in the millions.

[@roberthill5549]

Funny. I don't remember many actors striking or opening their huge gobs about manufacturing jobs being replaced by machines, or sent overseas. It's *almost* like they don't care unless it affects them directly, or it doesn't provide them with cultural clout.

[@jacquelineking5783]

My favorite thing to say when someone in a comments section complain about foreign writers willing to be scabs is that they are just doing the jobs Americans don't want to do.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

​@@jacquelineking5783 💯% What's so bad about someone being honourable enough to follow through on fulfilling the conditions of their employment agreement & *earning* their pay...?

[@jacquelineking5783]

@OcarinaSapphr- true enough though my response is playing off what people who are okay with illegal immigration often say. Which the Hollywood types are among those who use that line quite a bit.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

@@jacquelineking5783 Their mental hoop jumping is practically Olympic level..

[@JustGimmeAFrakinName]

ahhh, you've hit on an oft overlooked issue with American working class schizophrenia. over the years, capitalist propaganda has instilled a cutthroat mentality in workers which is very evident between trades and within corporate structures. it's not the individual's fault they carry that mentality, it's been 70 years of propaganda and disinformation.

[@objectivelyacat4862]

These hacks think transparency benefits them! They truly believe that the absolute garbage they've been churning out is generating record profits! The funny part is that the studios have been playing an economic shell game for years and it's now coming back to haunt them!

[@melissar4612]

This is the hubris I'd love to see thrown back in their faces. No, Susan, your precious queer-coded fantasy drama didn't pull record numbers. It was beaten in the ratings by candlepin bowling and a repeat of "Bluey." Sit down.

[@marychocolatefairy]

Yeah, Hollywood types should have known studios exaggerate their streaming profits, such as when Amazon did their little game with RoP: "It's closing in on 100 million views!" ::3 weeks later:: "It's closing in on 100 million views!" And all their other base-less assurances, until actual reports came out- one showing that only around a third of viewers actually finished the series; and another one showing that it hadn't even done as well as The Boys!

[@thelaughingrouge]

Exactly! Why shouldn't they think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread, the studios have been saying these flops are actually a runaway success! Now that they want their fair share of these billions and billions in "record profits" the studios are gonna have to admit it's been flop after flop and I'm just gonna sit back with my popcorn and laugh.

[@KingSpades]

They need to be paid based on good writing not because they just write something

[@jacquelineking5783]

The supporters claim it is all executive meddling and the writers are trapped by circumstances. Also that the slave wages make them too stressed to be creative. Meanwhile Universal trimming trees so strikers don't have shade might be the most creative thing of Hollywood in a decade I have seen and the writers didn't come up with that.

[@ptonpc]

And nothing of value will be lost. Strange that the rich actors are not saying "We will take a pay cut to help out the lower paid actors". The WGA etc were more than happy to throw everyone else under the bus until it affected them.

[@razorback9999able]

"Hollywood is dying, and nothing of value has been lost." Well, some of value has been lost, like every memorable movies and franchises we had, like the MCU Infinity Saga, Star Wars, every talented actor/actresses we had over the years like Carrie Fisher (RIP), Gene Wilder (RIP), Leonard Nimoy (RIP), every talented director, all gone. Imagine a life without entertainment. We would never be here.

[@geekarchivistpearce828]

​@@razorback9999ableFair point

[@darthlaurel]

I'm willing to try to imagine a life without this version of "entertainment".

[@unimpartialobserver]

@@razorback9999able You mean I'd have to resort to watching independent works on public platforms (like KZbin), playing video games, or reading books? The horror.

[@Khayul]

@@unimpartialobserver Yeah, strange how I can get much more entertainment for free for the same time from watching people have fun doing things on youtube, compared to the misery fest anything coming out of hollywood these days. Sure there are some fun things here and there, but I remember being excited for movies more than 10 years ago.

[@backonlazer791]

I have an idea. Give the writers residuals, sure, but when the numbers are negative they will have to pay the company for damages instead. I have a feeling the quality of writers would improve rather quickly and the number of them would go way down. And look, if you're a writer and you want to get paid fairly I get that, but sometimes people just are on the wrong line of business and need to recognize that.

[@bozokreso5555]

Is that how your job worms? If the buisness is bad, do they take from your pay?

[@MrAkaacer]

@@bozokreso5555 Residuals are like bonus' a regular salary is getting paid for work. These people not only want to be paid for their work, they demand residuals (big ones at that) which is like part ownership in the product. If you want ownership you need to buy in, usually by forking out some money, but these people don't want to do that, they're just demanding part ownership.

[@bozokreso5555]

@@MrAkaacer um, residuals are a normal way to pay actors and writers.

[@MrAkaacer]

@@bozokreso5555 Doesn't make it right. I'm not against residuals, but I think the actor/writers have to invest something to get it. Its like demanding stocks from your employers.

[@calculusmaximus5078]

They're under the misguided impression that they are entitled to other peoples money. We should be cheering the fact that they can read the words off a page. That's a massive achievement at their level.

[@ottomanwilde4836]

So you're comfortable with studio execs making millions of dollars while the writers do all the work and get none of the reward?

[@greggeiger7532]

I support the strike in the sense I never want it to stop.

[@jenanne31]

🤣🤣🤣

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

I understand ur support but im conflicted on this cos I was let go from my VFX job(& many more are being let go) due to the strike which has impacted acquisitions of shows/movies/projects that gets vended out to studios. I really hate this writers union, 1st they fuck things up by writing shit that alienates the audience & now they're demanding to be payed more for the talentless & agenda filled crap they are writing & shoving down the audience's throats with a strike thats making VFX artists, production people, set designers etc lose their jobs & income...truly a selfish lot. I don't want the writers to get what they want but at the same time I(& many others like me in the VFX industry) don't want to be unemployed. It's a conundrum! this situation for me lol

[@vexfrost7656]

​@@3rdworldgwaming467hold on a bit longer, mate! I feel sorry for the loss of job due to the strike. May i suggest going in fiverr in the meantime or making indie with scabbers and upload to youtube? Making a good portfolio is always good when trying to apply to those studio

[@Juan-os4hs]

@3rdworldgwarming467 So tell us... What do the coders learn to get a new job? 🤔😳

[@3rdworldgwaming467]

@@Juan-os4hs Coders?...bro I'm a VfX artist Coding is more of a VFX pipeline tech skill/thing which is more in terms of whichever software the vendor is using & other uses for whatever softwares a company is using in their various tech pipelines (which have guidelines based on the company).Honestly i don't know enough to help u in this front. But it's the same boat for the strike cos if there's no shooting happening then that means there is no footage coming into a vendor for anyone to work in...so yeah...same boat but different skilled folks drowning just cos the writers think they're hot shit wen they're not. Wen we have reached a phase of entertainment wen consumers start saying shit like "oh the movie sucked but the VFX n rest was good" then the writer n folks greenlighting the scripts should take notice n change things.

[@s3.14dervision]

Imagine if we all did as terrible a job as these writers do and not only get to keep our jobs but get a raise!

[@bensutherland5209]

This applies to just about every union job in existence. Work quality/quantity goes down while wages go up> costs go up>people stop spending on it>business closes and everyone is out of work. Unions had their place in history and it ended a century ago

[@carried9130]

I'd have been so fired from every single job I've ever had if I lost tons of money and pissed off the customer base! Everyone I know- same thing. Hollywood is now experiencing the response to a job poorly done. If they wish to alienate and piss off most of their customers, we will take our custom elsewhere, and I am glad to see my fellow fans not taking it anymore.

[@arsstv]

@@bensutherland5209 Unions are not designed to work with private businesses, it's for government funded jobs only. So no, they have their place, Usa just doesn't know what they are for and how to use them.

[@monkeyman1327]

Imagine if we all did as horrible job as studio execs and got paid millions and millions with a golden parachute upon firing. Give me a break

[@HansDester]

​@bensutherland5209 I am in a union and I can't agree more. I say this same thing almost every week. As a Team Lead I can't get the guys to work and we get behind and then they blame the company. It's disgusting. I do what I'm supposed to and earn my pay but I do believe we are highly overpaid. Its a contract with the Air Force so these guys were lazy from the get go. Coming from the Navy I just don't get the work ethic and lack of integrity. I won't quit because I'm making way more money to do less work than I would normally in the real world. Unions are a parasite on this country. Only a few select jobs deserve to be in a union, but not writers or actors. Not me in the Aviation Industry on a military base. Like you said Union's were needed 100 years ago not now in Starbucks with part time workers.

[@lance134679]

Sarah Silverman is definitely in the wrong here. Not only are those independent productions not in violation of the strike rules, they also make SAG's position stronger.

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

I support "scabs." People willing to do the work for the wages they agreed to are honorable.

[@famedgaming1865]

I don't know. Sarah Silverman did black face for money. How could she be a bad person.

[@TheMaleRei]

@@famedgaming1865 I counter with "Santa Inc".

[@AliceBowie]

As Sarah Silverman said. "When God gives you AIDS, make lemonAIDS."

[@roneherushin4638]

​@TheMaleRei that show should be classified as a war crime I swear.

[@rozzgrey801]

Everyone is sick of bad writers not creating fun exciting adventures but churning out boring, cringe-inducing finger-wagging preachy moralistic movies. Get woke, go broke. A new industry will rise from the ashes of Hollywood which will get back to good movies.

[@theequalizer9154]

Actually, they're finger-wagging and preaching anti moralistic views. There lies the problem.

[@jeffersonadams8711]

It's truly enraging how greedy some of these actors & writers are. So many of them get paid to literally do _nothing_ and yet they still want more. They have some nerve calling their situation "struggling".

[@toddwright7567]

I think Will Smith is probably the best suited actor to actually speak on Strikes

[@ptonpc]

Well he did a great job defending his wife's boyfriend's honour at the Oscars

[@eW91dHViZSBpcyBjZW5zb3JzaGlw]

@@ptonpc lol will smith is the god of cucks.

[@David_R434]

If it's such a good deal then the actors and writers should start their own studio and show the other studios how it's done

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

DING! DING! DING!

[@carried9130]

But they won't unless it's with someone else's money. And I'd be disgusted to see millionaires trying to crowdfund it. And, it'd depend on who was in charge too. Certain actors and writers may be able to pull it off...but it's a small number.

[@YerDrunkDad]

How could anyone have guessed that a lack of talent would have led to this? No ability to create something new? No problem; we'll just take something that's already got a massive fan base, destroy everything that they like about it, tell them how awful they are for not liking the changes, then whine and complain when it fails.

[@JustGimmeAFrakinName]

you think the writers greenlight projects..? so you literally have no idea how the industry works at all...? writers have been trying to put out new ideas since the beginning of television, it's the moneymen who sign off on projects deciding what gets produced. they want what worked before because they want the least risk for their investment.

[@vincelemaire]

@@JustGimmeAFrakinName Yeah… like in every other industry. Welcome into reality. It‘s about time…

[@nielsklarenberg5871]

@@JustGimmeAFrakinName You can be both creative and do what works, what works does not equal doing the same thing over and over again. It seems like you have no idea how the industry works.

[@sismith5427]

After seeing an almost endless list of shows and films flop over the last few years (despite the insane production budgets). It seems almost farcical for the writers to be demanding more money... many of these writers have spent the last decade destroying the back catalogues of the studios most beloved original IPs. It feels akin to walking into Le Louvre, covering the Mona Lisa in faeces and the charging the gallery for your bus fare and the effort of pushing it out. They should be paying reparations for the systematic destruction of so much iconic cultural history.

[@markw9841]

My Uncle Worked in Hollywood in set design and construction. He has retired, but for several years he complained about how the stars kept squeezing out the money and pay for him and his construction crew.

[@codylawler2652]

I've always said if they paid everyone realistically, i.e. less, the only people who would be in the industry would be passionate people who care.

[@coffetrueno9791]

Ignore what I said before It was me who was being the moron

[@michaelpettersson4919]

As a carrot to do a good job I suggest a bonus if what they produce becomes popular. As such a box office bomb would generate no bonus. This could reduce the innane activist plots a bit.

[@kaiser569]

@@coffetrueno9791 I don't get why you're calling them a moron. They said "realistic wages". To me that means living comfortably and not worrying about any future problems that could hit me financially. If I was getting paid enough to pay my bills, fund my hobbies AND do what I love every day for work, I'd take that chance in a heartbeat.

[@coffetrueno9791]

@@kaiser569 hooooooo i misread that i thought he wanted writer to be paid less Jesus saint cristh I’m a moron

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

​@@kaiser569"...not worrying about ANY future problems..." That's completely unrealistic.

[@silvermknight]

With the amount of garbage coming from Hollywood lately.....Let them fight.

[@everyoneash]

Remember during covid when Bryan Cranston and Colin Ferrell and every other actor and actress stood in solidarity with the smal businesses of California and said even if movie productions can still go on we won't go on until every business goes with us...remember that?? Yeah, me neither so who cares about them...

[@LiberalConservatist]

Sarah: “Can somebody explain to me what I’m not understanding.” Disparu: “I’m gonna have to stop it there luv. I simply don’t have the time.” Me: 🤣 💀

[@RegularCupOfJoe]

If one makes $1,800 a day, that is more than enough rent to live comfortably in many areas of the United States. One working day a month pays for rent. Imagine what _two_ working days pays for!

[@curtisbryce5096]

I don't feel sorry for any of these hacks. I have multiple scripts that I have written and because I check no boxes, I can't even get them read.

[@TenneyVision]

Don't give up. Maybe go the independent route, wish you the best

[@ACHILLES1GREEK]

be relentless and something great can happen.

[@bilson7523]

I love how thess unions have the point of view: "It's a drop in the bucket for the corporations," as the entire film industry is as financially unhealthy as it's ever been. Streaming service engagement has been collapsing post-pandemic, budgets have been inflating massively in the last 4 years despite theatrical returns being down overall. Heck, in 2018-2019, everything Disney put out made a billion, now we're debating whether Disney will break even every film. And, again, none of the most successful actors are proposing any solutions that see them making less. Nobody is proposing universal pay scales, caps on royalties, or caps on the % of the budget that a single actor can pull.

[@geekarchivistpearce828]

Because they have no experience in the business. So a few of them had some decent ventures? How long did that last? Did it truly help make some jobs or just leech off others like what modernists are doing now?

[@Trollificusv2]

Star Actor: "What? You want to make adjustments in top salaries?? Tell you what, let's leave star-level compensation alone, and I'll make a stirring speech supporting SAG members who are starving. How's that sound?"

[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

If billions of dollars is a drop in the bucket then they deserve to fall off the beanstalk.

[@elizabethanderson8225]

Because studios, and lead actors want to maintain separate negotiability, because it’s almost a different market (it’s also a different contract too, G9? or something I think). But also, the unions would love universal pay scales, but the studios would never accept. Why is everyone here putting the blame on SAG-AFTRA?

[@BlueBD]

its the exact same thinking that leads to stores being unable to fight thieves. "Oh its just a drop in the bucket"

[@joshuapatrick682]

Yeah, these superstars who make 5-6 figures a day aren’t walking around paying the extras and bit players out of their own pockets now are they? They have no plans to, and none of them actually want to.

[@kevinarnold8634]

Why should they? Do you share your wages with lower income coworkers?

[@mrdeebo313]

​@@kevinarnold8634the whole point of being in a union is that everyone is paid equally, that's why they should.

[@johnrobinson5156]

Do Work = Exchange for Money No Work = No Money Bad Products = No Sales

[@castlearghhh6023]

"87% of my union doesn't make the 26k a year in order to receive health insurance." Well isn't that on the Union negotiators? That's some union you got there Jessica.

[@lance134679]

It's hard to get on the side of SAG when your members are threatening to burn down someone's house.

[@busybillyb33]

It's also hard to not get on the side of SAG when their members are threatening to burn down Bob Iger's house.

[@lance134679]

@@busybillyb33 Touché.

[@jacquelineking5783]

The problem if it goes the BLM route where all the evil white peoples placed seemed largely unaffected and it was the neighborhoods of people you are supposedly fighting for being vandalized.

[@jmace2424]

Ron Perlman always looks like a public service announcement for sunscreen 🤣

[@johnsmith-mv8hq]

To paraphrase a time when Gal Gadot opened her mouth to talk to us plebeians: "Imagine there's no woke writing. It's easy if you try. No misandry or hypocrisy. Nor sexist double-standards too. You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one..."

[@steakdriven]

"Never quit your day job". Unless you're really successful, acting and writing is part-time work - you should always have some other form of income to fall back on. These people expecting full-time pay for part-time work are spoiled and childish.

[@richardmattocks]

Is anyone bothered that actors in 2023 movies stop? Modern movies are all dreadful. The world is a better place without these movies being made

[@TheShadowguy64]

Let’s not ignore the A-listers who are walking the picket line on Monday and working on an independent film on Tuesday. Edit: wrote that before he brought it up lol All it boils down to is: If you work as a writer and can be replaced, and we won’t notice when you are replaced, you shouldn’t have that job in the first place.

[@Krhys1]

The funniest thing about the whole writers' strike was how quickly the actors latched onto it and made it all about themselves for social media cred.

[@dumbassdude8372]

Good cuz theyre the one carrying the film industry. I have never heard someone say " I want to watch this movie because its written by X"

[@oli8296]

​@@dumbassdude8372how? most of these big actors come from a time when you could find a decent script and an original idea, if they were breaking out now no one would care who they are because the quality of writing is so horrendously weak. It is everything. It relies entirely on your creative department. This whole era of praising people for what they haven't done is what's led to all this entitlement in the industry in the first place.

[@fxzn]

@@dumbassdude8372 probably because most people dont understand writing is the backbone of a good movie. the best movies in history are all mainly good because of the writing.

[@dumbassdude8372]

@@fxzn People cant understand what they cant see, Theres no film or any holywood produced shit in this year that is close to being called good writing

[@RealtyWebDesigners]

"Don't hire anyone who thinks profit is evil" - Wisdom!

[@718EngrCo]

I remember reading about TV shows that I loved as a kid that were written by one person, and maybe edited or punched up by another. Why would they possibly need six writers on one show?

[@ottomanwilde4836]

Because writers have a right to make a living and obviously there are a limited amount of shows. And no, TV series have always had writers room. Stop siding with studio execs!

[@johnrobinson5156]

High School Theater is better than what Hollywood has, many teenagers can do what they do. FIRE EM

[@gagamba9198]

Make the actors pay the writers. They're the ones who reply on their words.

[@inspector2363]

One writers placard... "Star Trek without Writers is PEW! PEW!" Current Star Trek WITH a dozen shite overpaid writers is just PEW! PEW! (& crying)

[@josephbrown9685]

Hollywood writers and actors are extremely overrated and have been for a long time. The studios were stupid for making those deals in the first place and now the strike is allowing them a way out. It’s really disgusting that they have been making more money on one production than most of the population makes in a year, but it’s still not enough for them.

[@maxgehtdnixan4913]

Nobody respects a guy whose slap is so limp-wristed the other guy not only is left laughing, but can still make jokes about it. Will Smith was dead the moment Chris Rock kept smiling. He just didn't know it yet.

[@phantomstar9406]

Hollywood is crumbling due to trash being sent out, and the writers and actors creating this trash are also crumbling??? This is amazing please STAY on strike!!

[@palanthis]

And THIS explains how we ended up where we are today. With theaters charging $20+ a person for complete garbage.

[@byronhorde5892]

Hmm... I am actually paying $25 per month, to get up to 3 tickets per week. As long as go to 2-3 films per month, that fee is paid for. It isn't all garbage, sonce I can easily find at least 2 films to go out to see, each month.

[@WillEDC]

I would love if someone had the mic and say “Cranston supports us so much he is donating 2 million dollars of his own money to help his fellow actors during the strike. Let’s give him a hand”

[@Mazra42]

The entertainment industry is dealing with some insane numbers in general. Paying Phoebe Waller-Bridge $20 million a year is crazy when you compare it to regular people working regular jobs. I stand to make $2.3 million before taxes over the remaining 32 years I have left on the job. I'll retire as a 71-year-old, having made 1/10th of what PWB made in one year. Crazy times.

[@baxter1252]

And without having any idea what you do, I'm absolutely certain it's more valuable than anything Phoebe Waller-bridge will ever do.

[@jacquelineking5783]

I could get it if she was a proven money maker. Like if Babe Ruth came back an filled stadiums like he did in his hey day sure pay the guy an unheard of amount of money. However she doesn't really come off as the Babe Ruth of cinema.

[@bozokreso5555]

​@@jacquelineking5783but they dont want an unheard of amount of money.

[@robertthomas3143]

I was watching a KZbin video and the host asked the audience to donate to the writers who are on strike and aren't getting paid. The audacity to ask me to give money to someone who decided to quit doing their job because they didn't get what they want. If an average worker did that, they would be laughed out of the room.

[@sharonbroadbent8138]

I never understood why anyone believed that Phoebe waller-bridge was sometimes genius writer.

[@KitsuneAdorable]

I miss the 80s and 90s. The writing was creative, smart, and fantastic. Unions are supposed to help the employees, and make sure that strikes aren’t necessary. Voice Actors and the bit actors and the crews who don’t make millions of dollars per episode movie etc, should be paid fairly. I hope that the strikes go on so that Hollywood has to shutter their doors. The employees (working in movie theatres etc)making minimum wage or lower should *not* be in fear of loosing their jobs. But big time actors don’t care. They want bigger checks, including believing The Message” should stay. Hollywood is dying. They just don’t want to admit it. 9:27 Imagine you just secured your first writing gig, on some over dramatic over acted soap opera, (General Hospital) in,t to see on Twitter some jackass referred to you as a scab. Who’d want to continue? Their careers, and finances are up in the air, and they continue to act this way. Hollywood lost my respect back in 2020. I didn’t think that in 2023 it would be the actors turn. They have _no_ idea what it’s like to worry if and when- they’ll secure a f&cking job. Well we’ll soon see them at Job Fairs eh?

[@ReglazeRX]

"Biodome" 😂 Even still, I miss those decades as well.

[@Capohanf1]

UNIONS ONLY HELP THE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@EllerthePeridot]

Not to mention that they’re calling you a scab, yet if GH or YR, B&B, or DAYS stop production, they’ll get canned. I like soaps; tbh they get a bad wrap even though they probably have more discipline than the avg HW douchebag. The shoestring budgets mean they can only have 1-2 takes along with having to film long hours, hundreds of pages dialogue bc they're filming 6 weeks ahead, etc. No time for blooper reels to include on the DVDs 🙄. It’s so disgusting of their fellow soap writers to denigrate them just bc they aren’t part of the WGA cult. Why should they burn their lives down because you are?

[@Lonovavir]

My list of older films to buy on DVD 📀 does nothing but increase yearly.

[@brentmichael4770]

Gaaah social media is the place people run to and confess their nostalgia of a by gone era that's no different to those before or after. The same man who claimed he missed the 50s and 60s is getting dirt shoveled onto their coffin today. You're in line playing your part on the nostalgia train, your dirts coming one day soon😅.

[@thefanwithoutaface8105]

Thing is writers can easily be replaced. I've literally worked with fanfic writers and read fnafiction that's better written than most stuff on TV these days

[@DeadlyPlatypus]

George R.R. Martin refuses to actually write...

[@carried9130]

Same here fan, I have read fanfic that is better than a lot of the work we've seen over the last decade. Pretty sad indeed.

[@geekarchivistpearce828]

Indeed...some of them make better stories than these Tumblrinas and fake geek hacks. Majority of these wannabes don't know anything about life

[@JB-yb4wn]

@@carried9130 You should see some of the star wars fanfics shorts, makes the movies look like the bloated garbage that they are.

[@ThatAnnalisa]

My mother and I love reading fanfiction! There are hits and misses, but we've read so many great stories that were creative and fun and true to the lore and characters. And the fans do it for free, out of their own enjoyment.

[@lance134679]

So much info is coming out about how creatives often get paid for doing nothing, it's a wonder anything ever gets done. It does help explain why Secret Invasion cost $212 million, though.

[@Trollificusv2]

Bothers me even more when they do something lousy, like Rings of Power or Secret invasion or Gotham Knights or worse, when they deliberately destroy something they've been assigned to write, like The Witcher. That whole crew should have been fired as soon as it came out they hated the source material...along with whoever hired them, and whoever else on the production team who had no intention of filming the actual Witcher stories, and whoever hired THEM. But that never happens. And I got ZERO sympathy with them demanding MORE crappy writers doing the same sh*t. I'd much prefer an AI with a talented writer editing and working with the programmers if the AI isn't doing well.

[@ReinoldFZ]

@@Trollificusv2 Both writers and bosses are being indoctrinated, without even being aware of that, in neo-Marxism. They have been told incoherent things like women, "poc" and U.S. minorities are increasing their economical power and therefore doing products for them (from an ideological point of view) will open to them new markets. They influence the media, social media corporations and forums to create a reality in which they are reflecting the real world, while negating the numbers they see that treating Tolkien's work or Batman as the work of bigots with white villains isn't getting them new markets. Barbie being an exception maybe because it is not an article meant for boys. I think AI will continue doing what writers do now because is what their bosses are asking them to write.

[@Nonamearisto]

Ever seen the credits in a movie? The VAST majority of them are neither actors nor writers. Most of the people who work on a movie are behind the scenes: cameramen, electricians, VFX artists, sound editors, musicians, set makers, etc.

[@Sketchcook81]

Aww, poor rich people. How will they be able to afford mansions and multiple foreign sports cars that cost more than most people will make in half a lifetime?

[@oskar6661]

You have to feel for the "actual" laborers (electricians, catering, grips, set-builders, etc.) who are the ones actually suffering when spoiled writers/actors go on strike. It's a good look...You'll pardon me if I don't take actors who are millionaires seriously when they're "standing with the people", etc. They could - quite literally - never work another day in their life, and have a comfortable lifestyle till they die.

[@asarishepard8171]

And ruining those staffer jobs. All they do is destroy everything they touch.

[@truthandnothingbut]

Dude. Not all of these actors on set are millionaires. Most are Not. They are legit suffering same as the “actual labourers” chill. From an actual actor.

[@lordhelwintr283]

@@truthandnothingbutsorry dude it sucks but compared to people that do real work it’s hard to feel sympathy for adult pretenders.

[@truthandnothingbut]

@@lordhelwintr283 alright, next time you watch your favourite show or listen to your favourite song to take a break from the “real world”, remember that artists whom you have no sympathy for are the ones behind the work. That’s just so ignorant. Art is therapy and most of you can’t survive a day without a form of entertainment.

[@DotDusk]

A comfortable lifestyle is for the plebs and the common folk. They want glamor and extravaganza.

[@stryder414]

"If the writers & paid pretenders stay of strike, it'll take down the whole cinema industry!!!" 😂Even if you dont consider how utterly replaceable all these hack writers & even movie "stars" are, just think about the century's worth of films that Hollywood companies own. If they just start putting the best bits of their catalogue out into the theaters again, they would make billions without having to pay a single woke activist/writer. All Hollywood has to do is rerelease the IMDb top 100 films into theaters over the next few years. Make a few backroom handshake deals with the likes of Spielberg, Scorsese, Tarantino, Zemeckis & the like, all the while hire new/old talented writers to make your new batch of (hopefully) audience drawing movies.

[@Raximus3000]

You assume they are smart, they are not. What they will do is chase the AI to the end of their bank accounts, not even considering if they reach an 100% AI movie they would have made the cost of big movie to 6-7 digits, which means competition will be insane.

[@Sorain1]

Which shows you have far more logic and business sense than the people in charge. It disgusts me this doesn't make you a one in a billion level genius talent. The person on the street is more capable of making business decisions soundly than these fools.

[@martindenham2207]

These days I’m more excited about existing movies getting 4k restorations from the original camera negative than I am about brand new movies. For me, it’s like getting a brand new movie to watch.

[@whatduck943]

I really wish they would do this, seeing some those on the big screen for the first time in decades would be amazing!!!

[@martindenham2207]

@@whatduck943 I've noticed these 4k restorations do play at the cinema when they tie with an anniversary. Around Halloween last year I saw Poltergeist, Bram Stoker's Dracula, The Thing & The Lost Boys at the cinema. Amazing! Also last year I saw Star Trek The Motion Picture & Star Trek II, Jaws & ET. Maybe it was because of Covid and a lack of new films, but it was amazing to see these classic movies on the big screen, most of which was my first time (only ever seen them on TV).

[@willdegra317]

And exactly, when people realize AI is just generating faces it won't matter that it's generating the face of someone who used to work as a person who played pretend for a living. It can be the face of a guy who used to clean toilets, or a dead person, or a person that doesn't exist. AI isn't "acting" so you don't need the actor.

[@pduidesign]

The fact that PWB still has a contract after Solo: A Star Wars Story, No Time to Die and Indy 5 shows how clueless Hollywood really is.

[@mrnobody2873]

On the money issue alone, the first problem is that the industry is centralized in a very expensive state to live in. They get hit with explicit and implicit taxes on several different levels. 30% to 40% of earnings off the top are paid for required entertainment industry expenses (agents, attorneys, business managers, etc. ). Cost of living in California is exorbitant with housing prices way above the rest of the country. The mid-range people's salaries once you adjust for those expenses isn't actually all that much. Everything else going on is complete Marxist BS. The best thing that can be done is to decentralize the industry and spread out production across the country.

[@Ex_impius]

That one girl is reading her talking points off her phone.. if it was really something she cared about she wouldn't need a script when complaining in public.

[@asarishepard8171]

Giving me " you better hit all points or we burn your house down, thanks comrade!"

[@starpergaming2688]

You probably don't know that not all people are perfect... And some of us (silly hoomans) can't speak natively. Especially when the topic is matter of our well being, you not suppose to ehm and well. You suppose to say what you need correctly and short. Without losing thought or getting wrong way all together

[@dt_052]

You ever hear of cue cards during presentations? Some of the greatest speakers in history used notes and the like to present their case. I'd love to hear you give a speech on something your passionate about and hit every single talking point, and counter every argument against your cause without any notes.

[@lassievision]

You ever heard of acting, where you memorise an entire script?

[@sardonically-inclined7645]

And nothing of value was lost 😏

[@Serge_Jackson]

I think both sides are in the wrong but the unions are making this worse than it has to be

[@katarinabrunk8698]

Completely agree, both are stupid, both in slightly different ways

[@jacquelineking5783]

I think the executives, actors, and writers should all rot. Hollywood is a luxury service. We would probably all be better off if burns.

[@Serge_Jackson]

@@jacquelineking5783 tom holland thinks so as well which is why he wants to quit acting

[@jacquelineking5783]

@Serge_Jackson good for him. The guy probably made enough money with a decent money guy he can live comfortably while not being any more involved with the cess pool that is Hollywood.

[@Elizabelle79]

I've worked as an extra on set for years. If I had a dollar for each person just standing around doing nothing, getting paid more than me, and looking down their nose at me... I'd get their daily going rate.

[@amp2193]

They all laughed when they thought AI/Robots would take over middle class jobs like trucking, manufacturing, and face to face customer service. Turns out it's a lot easier and more profitable for AI to do their jobs than ours 😂

[@Iffy350]

Hollywood burning hollywood down

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

Writers: I know we write a lot of woke crap that people hate and loses 100’s of millions of dollars but we deserve more money. Corporations: yeah let me introduce you to economics 101 😅

[@stevew8513]

There's a million shows across all streaming platforms and networks that I've never even heard of. When there's so much content and not many people watching it, it's not surprising that people are only getting $396 in residuals for a show that virtually nobody watched and received almost no rewatches. All they have to do is entertain. They aren't there to lecture. Just entertain. And they refuse. They're reaping what they sow.

[@jacquelineking5783]

Yeah, while I do think the studios should be transparent I don't think that is going to be as helpful for the writers and actors as they think. All it would probably expose is how shitty these shows are recieved.

[@sarasunshinemt4444]

​@jacquelineking5783 I believe that they are hiding the numbers because they will scare away investors from the studios if they knew how bad the views actually are. It's all woke crap and people are done paying for it. I'd rather watch content like this channel, tearing apart their crappy shows, than watch ANYTHING that studio has on its streaming service. That's how bad it's gotten, as I'm hardly alone in that.

[@thatHARVguy]

@@jacquelineking5783 Top it off with their strike demands to force hiring of more writers than needed and paying them full-time wage for part-time work. I sure as hell want the public to know about that bs.

[@jacquelineking5783]

@thatHARVguy as I said I do agree with transparency and controlling their likenesses. Hell I sort of agree with the A.I. but that has more to do with me thinking that A.I. in general might be a pandora's box waiting to happen.

[@unknownsword9042]

So it's okay for machines to take away jobs of the working class but witers must be protected? No, Ai will replace the vast majority of writers just like automation replaced factory workers.

[@hunn20004]

What I don't get, is why these actor people, making millions, don't hire a writer, editor, producer and a bunch of b tier actors, to make a movie for the fraction of the cost. I would jump out of my seat if Samuel started his own studio.

[@philmorton4590]

Step 1 termination of all writers by every company to save money, let them be unemployed for 3 to 6 months, step 2 offers given to the most productive to return now they know the cold, step 3 continue business as usual.

[@jmace2424]

I mean if Jason Momoa is looking for a cheap beverage for picketers, I hear bud light is basically free these days 🤣

[@ohnosmoarlulcatz]

One thing I would like to mention is that a lot of these clauses exist for a reason. For example, one of the things studios have been trying to push is that actors don't get paid until the movie is actually shown in theaters. This means if it goes direct to streaming, it doesn't count. Or if it gets shelved despite being finished, it doesn't count. This extends to visual effects artists too. Worked on a 600 shot sequence over a month and it gets thrown out? You're not getting paid for it. Now, everyone has to work overtime on a separate shot if any or else you're just shit out of luck and a month's work of income. One thing I would actually support the actors in is being against studios wanting to own the likeness and voices of actors too. This is especially true of actors who appear in commercials where AI replacement is already used. This could create a situation where the actors are not actually allowed to work while still earning 0 royalties for their likeness.

[@xipheonj]

The worst part of the actors not owning their own likeness is the studio could do whatever they want with it, attach it to any political message. Imagine Chris Pratt being used to portray a gay man in love with a 15 year old boy in a movie that doesn't condemn it but frames it as beautiful. Not only should they be paid for it but they should have control of when their likeness is used as well.

[@Charlii931603]

@@xipheonj you literally had a point and then veered off into crazed homophobic American. Typical insane shit.

[@BillPeschel]

@@xipheonj That's the worst part of the deal. They're profiting off what is, in essence, the actor's intellectual property. Say they scan Henry Cavill's face and use him in an AI Superman movie. How many millions they'll make, while HC gets nothing. Of course, I suspect that would never be the case. Both sides play the game in which business asks for the universe, but settles for the moon.

[@SunwardRanger83]

The owning people's likenesses is one of the few issues I actually agree with the strikers on. This needs to be limited under federal law for this kind of stuff, no matter what a contract says. I'm thinking something like no more than a one-year contract max with express permission required annually to renew. I can definitely see some new actress getting a job as an extra, then a year or so later seeing herself as the star in a movie they basically photoshopped her into after giving her bigger boobs and a different hair or even skin color, then having her doppelganger do whatever they want through deep fake tech. The studios could get their new sex-symbol doing whatever they want in the movie, and the actress gets absolutely nothing but a ruined reputation. That also assumes the studios can't sell or trade your likeness. Imagine how bad it could be for you if your likeness got sold to an adult film studio once Disney decided you aged out of being in one of their kids shows once you turned 18. We all know Disney would do that in a heartbeat if they got the chance.

[@fictiontheorizer1991]

They have some legitimate points. But like everything else driven by Marxism, it will all be drowned out by greed and apathy. The fact that their most vocal members spent nearly a decade shiting on the audience they were supposed to serve means very few people will care now. Which is also a Hallmark of Marxism. It always self terminates and takes it's followers with it. And the people at the top can usually use it to slip away with more money and influence than they would have otherwise.

[@MMCUSN]

Please Please PLEASE keep on striking. The sooner Hollywood and 30 Rock dies the better.

[@zh1992]

Think there should be a requirement to be a Hollywood writer that you have some sort of life experience. Also maybe writers are just paid a % of profits, that way they’re incentivised to write something people will actually like, rather than push their own political beliefs.