Rappers React To Nightwish "The Poet And The Pendulum"!!!

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@frenkwd1
@frenkwd1 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Trash Talkers The song "The Poet and the Pendulum" is a 13 Minute journey through the mind and turmoil of Tuomas Holopainen after the year 2005. It was in that year the band parted with their long-time singer Tarja Turunen and had a personal falling out with her. The pain of the separation was big on both sides, and shown in this song. There is guilt for what happened, there is the responsibility that the band and Holopainen had to show towards the fans,. It was the End of an Era for them, and reason for Holopainen being lost as described in these lyrics. We can only of course to a certain degree suppose how much of these are truly Holopainen's feelings, wishes and pains - but we do know that the lyrics of Nightwish have been up to then very personal. Other songs on the album also digest this separation and falling out of the members with Turunen. However personal and "real" these thoughts are, I feel like this song definitely takes us not only on a journey with Holopainen but also into ourselves. The music underlines the emotional gravity of the song extremely well. And I believe a lot of people can actually relate to a sense of guilt and being overwhelmed that all they desired for is the safety of home and innocence. While being personal, the song can still ring true to it's listener. That's a quality Nighwish possesses in many, many more songs. The emotional journey is one we can all share and very few bands know how to put that journey into song and especially into sound as well as Nightwish does. The band remains through all it's shores and Oceans, one of my main favourites and I hold special place for the band in my musical heart. I hope you have enjoyed reading my analysis and share some of my thoughts. If you do have any comments, please feel free to let me know. And remember the beauty of interpretation is that it is subjective; we can see all and feel different things in the same song and continue to love it endlessly. Lyric analysis by Annika Hausen Greetings from the Netherlands
@SuperMoofie
@SuperMoofie 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said.
@victoriarising
@victoriarising 3 жыл бұрын
PREACH
@defacta5
@defacta5 3 жыл бұрын
She had a baby and moved on. Then, we got.................this
@steftherammsteiner8893
@steftherammsteiner8893 2 жыл бұрын
Nog een Nederlander ayyyy
@dark.necrofear5583
@dark.necrofear5583 3 жыл бұрын
You did "Ghost Love Score", you did "The Poet and the Pendulum", and now you're ready for "The Greatest Show on Earth". Another proof that Tuomas' level is on another planet.
@kurtball1228
@kurtball1228 2 жыл бұрын
You bet on that. Tuomas is an architect of the greatest collection of songs that will be ever written,composed, and sung by the best.
@teacher_fher
@teacher_fher 2 жыл бұрын
That's right. Just please do it with subtitles guys.
@dark.necrofear5583
@dark.necrofear5583 2 жыл бұрын
@@teacher_fher Yup. With subtitles
@machiavellipua
@machiavellipua 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the live in Tampere until the very end, then watch the end of the live in Wembley to see Mr Dawkins.
@dark.necrofear5583
@dark.necrofear5583 2 жыл бұрын
@@machiavellipua Yea. I found few reactors they skipped the last part and thats a shame
@robertsheeler321
@robertsheeler321 3 жыл бұрын
In short this is about Tuomas he is the poet and the song writer for 95% of everything (Founder, Composer & Keyboard ) its 5 stages of depression and a on stage suicide to help put the pain behind him.
@manna6618
@manna6618 3 жыл бұрын
Yeh boys! More Nightwish please...The Greatest Show on Earth should be next, it's a complete banger with some of the most amazing lyrics they have ever done IMO. As for this song every time I hear Marco (bass player) come in screaming with them lyrics "Second robber to the right of Christ!" I instinctively throw the devils horns in the air and start headbanging HARD...best part of the song for me! And Floor is on another level, makes these current female chart-toppers look ridiculous by comparison...and damn she is hot!!!
@n5iln
@n5iln 3 жыл бұрын
"For years, I've been strapped onto this altar. Now I only have three minutes and counting." Exactly three minutes later in the song, Tuomas makes the slashing motion across his throat. This is but one example of hundreds in the Nightwish catalog of why Tuomas is nicknamed "Metal Mozart".
@ladydalida6917
@ladydalida6917 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree !
@KL-qy4ye
@KL-qy4ye 3 жыл бұрын
To me this is Tuomas’s masterpiece as well as his most personal composition. It rescued him from the darkness through the catharsis of a metaphorical suicide.
@black4pienus
@black4pienus 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and besides the personal subject, the way it's composed is just phenomenal. Everything about it is amazing. It was written in the Annette area and I've seen a live version of Annette performing the song, but.... Nope. She isn't a story teller like Floor. So Floor makes the song complete imo.
@jamesanderson5268
@jamesanderson5268 3 жыл бұрын
@@black4pienus Totally agree with you Dutch Eve. I bought the Dark Passion Play album also and even on that studio cut, Anette is singing without any passion or story telling ability.
@youarehere594
@youarehere594 3 жыл бұрын
@@black4pienus I do like Annette but...it seems at least to me that she's just singing a song, not telling a story. This never used to be one of my favorite songs because of the way Annette sang it, but Floor just turned the entire song around. There are songs that I prefer Annette's style, but Poet is just Floor's to sing.
@wanderingfirbolg6738
@wanderingfirbolg6738 3 жыл бұрын
It helps me everyday, fighting through my PTSD and pain... would not be alive if not for this song.
@user-wt6hw5mi5q
@user-wt6hw5mi5q 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingfirbolg6738 ❤️❤️❤️
@louisminten7889
@louisminten7889 3 жыл бұрын
I tell you a bit about the backstory of this rollercoaster MASTERPIECE of emotions. After Tarja Turunen (first frontwoman) was fired, Tuomas (the keyboardplayer, songwriter and composer) got all the blame from media and fans, even when all members agreed. He fell in a deep depression and wrote this song in a for him terrible time, but he was so precise, that after the spoken words 3 minutes and counting, it's exactly 3 minutes that you see him slash his throat with his hand and commit suïcide in the song. Lucky for us he didn't do it for real and we can still enjoy his great musicianship. Greetings from the Netherlands
@AussieGoblin618
@AussieGoblin618 3 жыл бұрын
When nightwish fired tarja, tuomas copped a lot of flack from everyone including finnish politicians. It was either kill himself in song or in real life. The "converstaion" is Emppu making sure tuomas is good. Tuomas wont have the lyrics through his earpiece because of how bad it was
@janihaavisto79
@janihaavisto79 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Tuomas said in interview once that he's not the same person that he was all those years ago. Also said that he sometimes asks techs to take word track out of his in ears.
@AussieGoblin618
@AussieGoblin618 3 жыл бұрын
@@janihaavisto79 i couldnt even imagine the amount of anxiety and depression that came from that.
@tarjatuhkanen7094
@tarjatuhkanen7094 2 жыл бұрын
Tuomas got slack especially from the fans all over the world. There still are people who are 100 % devoted to Tarja and give slack to others who still listen Nightwish today with the current singer. Those fans still blame Tuomas for destroying "their" band... lol. It was an unanimous decision from the band to fire their first singer. And the band never was fans. And it never will be. We are just lucky to be here at this time when this band exists.
@scifimonkey3
@scifimonkey3 3 жыл бұрын
The poet is Tuomas, the keyboard player, who also writes everything. After a bit of research listen again, …..and again, …….and again……. It only becomes more impressive! Also props to the staging of this Wembley show which I was privileged to attend. Some of the best graphics and lighting I’ve seen to back up possibly the best live performance I’ve seen. Wind it back and check out the pendulums. You will get a lot of support for Greatest show on Earth from Tampere but for me the Wembley performance of that epic song by the band, was much better at Wembley with brilliant use of the e-bow by Troy, better sound quality and an appearance by the man that inspired the song in the first place. Tampere has some additional pyro but for me that’s not enough to swing it.
@bradfalusi898
@bradfalusi898 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!!
@christomashofski9160
@christomashofski9160 3 жыл бұрын
The keyboardist, Tuomas, is the poet. Edgar Allan Poe's "The Pit & The Pendulum" is the backdrop of the metaphor. The story is of Tuomas committing virtual suicide in the song so that he wouldn't have to do it in real life. The reason for the suicide is complex with varied interpretations which, no doubt, others have filled you in on below.
@JoTummers
@JoTummers 2 жыл бұрын
Floor does not need autotune or any other electronic shit to sing perfectly live 🙂 She nails any genre and has sung in at least 8 languages. 95 % of the music AND lyrics is written by Tuomas Holopainen, the guy behind the keyboards.
@MorganS89
@MorganS89 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE REACT TO NIGHTWISH...... GHOST RIVER YOU WILL NOT BE DISAPOINTED. Floor takes it to an entire new level. For a 5 min song OMG
@no_onein2024
@no_onein2024 3 жыл бұрын
The Keyboardist is TUomas Holopainen, he is the founder of Nightwish and the main composer of the music, lyrics, orchestral and choir arrangements, etc. The singer of Nightwish is to put a voice and EMOTION to Tuomas' storytelling, which OBVIOUSLY Floor is absolutely PERFECT in capturing the emotion by using different styles, textures & colors to her vocals, as well as a PERFECT breath control and use of body muscles to get that sound out as it SHOULD sound, and let's not talk about her stage presence and delivery either!!!! ALL the musicians in the band shine and, while this is originally from the 1st album Anette sang on, Floor ADDS the emotion as well as the Operatic style singings and parts where there was GRIT or even those ending haunting wails of the Siren!!! This version PERFECTLY reflects the emotions Tuomas MEANT when he wrote them. (Btw, part 1 White lands of Empathica is sung by a Boy Soprano, although Floor CAN get that high!)
@jangles1839
@jangles1839 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprisingly at a loss for words! I grasp what I've read in some of the comments the literal meaning of this song's lyrics but, man oh man! What an epic story and journey these lyrics tell & take you on! I'm again amazed by yet another group I'd never before! And also, again, awesome job fellers! 🤘🏼💙🤘🏼
@janihaavisto79
@janihaavisto79 3 жыл бұрын
BTW 1000 pages of erased text is a reference to erasing once past. And I get when ik now this band as well as I do, that Tuomas maybe wanted to erase some parts of his history at some point and time when he got so much hate for booting Tarja from the band. But truth is more complicated than that. Rumors had that Tarja had said 'she is the band' with out her there's no Nightwish. Even keyboard player Tuomas Holopainen had founded and build this band from ground up. And it didn't help that Tara's husband was a jealous bastard that tried everything in his power to get more money for Tarja and that money would of been lost from other members. Now one more thing was that in open letter to Tarja, band said that in 9yrs she never came to rehearsals, and that it influenced a lot to how complex music Tuomas can write. Since he didn't have her input on things. Some of these are just rumors, and my own opinions. So take it as such, i don't think anyone except band members in there knows what really went down.
@billattercliffe8655
@billattercliffe8655 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, she could do a Slipknot song, complete with growls and screams. Do a reaction to "Disdain" at Grasspop 2010. Floor was with her second band ReVamp and this one was her baby. This is her sound at the time - angry Floor. Totally not Nightwish: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnrUq4OOr814q9k
@gillesplantin1988
@gillesplantin1988 3 жыл бұрын
"4 minutes long is too much for a song, you c..." "Hold my Pendulum"
@PaulHanney
@PaulHanney 3 жыл бұрын
Wait til they hear the album Dopesmoke by Sleep. 1 song - 63 minutes long.
@PaulHanney
@PaulHanney 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please react to a great band from Finland, Wintersun - Time (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios). The drummer for Wintersun is Kai Hahto who is also the drummer for Nightwish.
@kentk2215
@kentk2215 3 жыл бұрын
The poet is Tuomas, the keyboard player. He writes nearly all the music and lyrics. This was his story.
@music2seeconcertphotograph457
@music2seeconcertphotograph457 3 жыл бұрын
„I have but two faces One for the world, One for God save me“ A perfect description for being depressive. And I know a lot about this topic for decades already
@chunkster4590
@chunkster4590 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed ... Geatest show on Earth, live in Tampere, Masterpiece.
@ACorpseWithoutSoul
@ACorpseWithoutSoul 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Helsinki, Finland. I'm insane metalhead since 1981 and i really respect how you guys (rappers) enjoy to Nightwish music. All of the best you guys. Keep on rocking and stay heavy!
@user-wt6hw5mi5q
@user-wt6hw5mi5q 3 жыл бұрын
"The poet was being shunned by society." Very accurate. Likely how Tuomas felt.
@KevinHollisWI
@KevinHollisWI Жыл бұрын
NightWish Army Wisconsin Chapter here. This is probably the GREATEST song ever composed. It is about the depression and suicidal thoughts of Toumas (the keyboardist) after all the hate mail by fans and even the Prime minister of Finland for firing original singer Tarja. I agree that this is the GREATEST song ever composed sung by the GREATEST female vocalist on the planet! ❤
@annetpetroni1797
@annetpetroni1797 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastico Reaction Brothers 🤘🏼✌🏼 love and support from Italy 🇮🇹 " Nightwishsoul " Stay Safe And Sound XoXo
@asxulxetesteronsxez538
@asxulxetesteronsxez538 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve never heard Marko sing? Then you gotta do The Phantom and the Opera by Nightwish from the End of an Era concert. Or listen to a lyric video for Master Passion Greed.
@svetlanadanely1964
@svetlanadanely1964 3 жыл бұрын
Need more symphonic metal and female vocals!!! Delain, Within Temptation, Epica, Therion. From non-symphonic metal Lacuna Coil or Amaranthe
@brewswillis9783
@brewswillis9783 3 жыл бұрын
Ad Infinitum too!
@dragonballbw3
@dragonballbw3 3 жыл бұрын
This one is deep. The keyboardist is Tuomas and he is the primary composer and writer. (aka The Poet) Check out TankTheTech's reaction to this video for a great analysis of the history behind this masterpiece.
@Khaotika
@Khaotika 3 жыл бұрын
It's not her in the start, nor was it Anette Olzon on the original, it's a boy soprano (aka treble) called Guy Elliott and comes from backing track. edit: And "that keyboard player" is Tuomas Holopainen - the core of the band. He's the one actually creating, composing most of the songs. Singer, like Floor in this case, is irrelevant - Nightwish is Tuomas.
@oneknight55
@oneknight55 3 жыл бұрын
If you guys get a second, look up the back story to this. It was from Tuomas' perspective (keyboard player), and how he was feeling after firing Nightwish's first lead singer Tarja. The backstory will fill in any gaps you have. I enjoyed your reaction. I think it is cool you can step out of your comfort zone, and check out different genres. Thank you.
@Neurodrill
@Neurodrill 2 жыл бұрын
This performance is one of the reasons Nightwish is so good; just watch the interaction of the band. Marco and Emppu were there for all of the turmoil Tuomas went through, and they know what the song is about and what it means to him. That's why they keep checking in on him and are standing right next to him towards the end. The members of this band love each other, and it shows.
@acostamarcelo298
@acostamarcelo298 2 жыл бұрын
It's metal man, no chorus, no auto tuning, just talent
@guidoheuts
@guidoheuts 3 жыл бұрын
The scentence," The poet whas being shunted by society". should explain all! This is excactly how the songwriter/poet felt when he/they had to say goodbye to Nightwish's first singer; Tarja Turunen. The composer/songwriter/poet, is the keyboard player by the name of Tuomas Holopainen, who wanted to commit suicide after all of this. However, instead of commiting this act in real life, he decided to write a song about his feelings at the time, and "The Poet And The Pendulum", is the outcome. So we could establish that this is not only just a story, but a real life experience. Great reaction guys!
@timometsanoja9666
@timometsanoja9666 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't do the legwork... C'mon guys, don't skip leg day. You have to read up what lead into this song to truly appreciate it for what it is. Go read up, and get back to some more Nightwish...
@no_onein2024
@no_onein2024 3 жыл бұрын
NO THEY DON'T. This is MUSIC not a freaking college course. *rolls eyes
@timometsanoja9666
@timometsanoja9666 3 жыл бұрын
@@no_onein2024 I don't think a couple of minutes of reading from the internet really constitutes as a college course. They would know how this song came to be and the events that happened that caused all that chaos... It isn't like reading through game of thrones...
@ecbftl
@ecbftl 3 жыл бұрын
I think they got some of the key elements sooner than most, at least they chose the version with the lyrics. They certainly got the emotional impact. I have seen a few reactors who don't know the band, and think the lead singer is songwriter of the stories she sings. She does write her own music, but not for Nightwish
@tomdog7864
@tomdog7864 3 жыл бұрын
Tears every time. Peace
@Frank-M.
@Frank-M. 3 жыл бұрын
The greatest show on earth next please(live in Tampere)
@raspberryripple88
@raspberryripple88 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you boys are back with Nightwish and with one of the big songs from their back catalogue :) research for this song (or any nightwish song for that matter) is not mandatory by any means, and it was a great reaction anyway, but it might have helped you guys a little bit just to get a little bit of context/ background info for this song. BTW, just in case you guys didnt know, the keyboardist Tuomas is the main songwriter and general mastermind/genius behind Nightwish, so he wrote this song about the aftermath of the band sacking Tarja, their original singer in 2005. Its hard to explain to people, who werent aware at the time, just how crazy and bitter it all got and it really split the fanbase, even to this day- It got really messy ; all the press at the time was around the idea that Tuomas was solely responsible for Tarjas sacking, when in fact it was the whole band, and he got the brunt of the backlash, including death threats and sent him into a severe depression. Poet and the pendulum is written in 5 parts and is essentially Tuomas taking his own life in the song, rather than doing so for real.
@RetroRanter
@RetroRanter 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the reaction, always fun watching you two and Nightwish. Intro with the dog had me dead though. 😂
@AGDinCA
@AGDinCA 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish you guys would have researched it first. It would have meant a lot more to you, and in a very different way. That said, I did enjoy your analytical breakdown of the song. If I didn't know the meaning behind it, I think your analysis would have really resonated with me. Intelligent approach to the lyrics and composition!
@clivematthews5296
@clivematthews5296 3 жыл бұрын
This was written by Tuomas, keyboards,as he became suicidal after the hate he received for sacking the first singer. He writes over 90% of the songs and this was part of his catharsis. Initial part sung by a boy chorister.
@music2seeconcertphotograph457
@music2seeconcertphotograph457 3 жыл бұрын
The „three minutes and counting“ until Tuomas virtual / symbolic death / suicide are just ingenious. And the following fading heartbeat gibes me shivers ever time (of the hundreds of times I watched this performance).
@black4pienus
@black4pienus 3 жыл бұрын
Yo, you should really listen to it again with the knowledge of the story behind this song. (Not gonna repeat the story. It's already in the comments). It has a very different impact. I still can't listen to that last part without getting tears in my eyes.
@MicheleNicole
@MicheleNicole 2 жыл бұрын
Smokey, it is incredible to watch you digest and process the lyrics. I think you, without any of the backstory, were putting together the pain that the song is built on. I see others have shared, but I'll also add a couple thoughts. When you see Marco and Emppu walking around Tuomas, they are there in support, in love and in friendship of Tuomas, because the lyrics were his expression of what he felt. It's pretty damned incredible.
@justinshook5332
@justinshook5332 3 жыл бұрын
I would sure love to see some Soilwork on this channel. How about this one they did with Floor? SOILWORK - "Let This River Flow" feat. Floor Jansen - Live In The Heart of Helsinki (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
@pannemanbroeker6822
@pannemanbroeker6822 3 жыл бұрын
MASTERPIECE !! Next ,,The greatest show on earth,, live Tampere . Thats also a 21 minuts masterpiece .
@missrubyphoenix
@missrubyphoenix 2 жыл бұрын
This is one emotional rollercoaster of a song
@vogel2280
@vogel2280 3 жыл бұрын
Almost all songs from NW are written by Tuomas (on keyboard) aka The Poet aka Metal Mozart The song is Tuomas' virtual suicide. He has just fired Tarja, ending a friendship, ending his innocence, ending all the songs he created (Tarja was a unicorn, no-one thought anyone else could sing them) and possible ending the future of the band. In the meantime he gets fried by the media, fried by the fans and even fried by the the president of Finland.... To me (and some others) the chapters in the song represent the stages in the mind of a suicidal person: I *White Lands Of Empathica* : Traumatic loss of innocence/security (It is sung by a boy soprano, not by Floor) II *Home* : Raging thoughts of self hatred and a feeling of being uprooted (longing for home even if you are already home) III *The Pacific* : Acceptance of the fact death is the only right answer to your problems, romanticising how peaceful it will be if it just all stops. IV *Dark Passion Play* : raging thoughts about actually committing suicide and how it will settle the scores and what will happen after your death V *Mother and Father* : getting help and not commiting suicide
@silverblack5475
@silverblack5475 3 жыл бұрын
Its about time you got back to The Goddess and Nightwish.
@lujalainen1
@lujalainen1 3 жыл бұрын
dang finally this song this channel and im pleased :) this is good way to start new week thanx to that and have lucky new week there.
@youthanasia8767
@youthanasia8767 3 жыл бұрын
Well done guys again 👍
@hexesayuri90
@hexesayuri90 Жыл бұрын
I love how you reacted to this song - I do think though, you'd have made a bit of research about about it 🙈 It hits waaay harder, if you know the story behind it and that its kinda like Tuomas suicide letter and he himself said once, that this song saved his life! 😢
@westcoasthockey9522
@westcoasthockey9522 3 жыл бұрын
It´s not a story, it´s a masterpice.
@PropBoyGinge
@PropBoyGinge 3 жыл бұрын
I've no doubt that others have told you it's a chorister who sings the opening lines but... Floor did offer to sing ALL the chorister parts if needed as they were well within her range. Tuomas thought about itband decided to keep some of them in for contrast and the context of the song.
@pirtlesquad1641
@pirtlesquad1641 3 жыл бұрын
I recently discovered your channel. I got obsessed with your System of a Down reactions. My request is you guys react to the their guitarist, Daron Malakian’s band Scars On Broadway, the song Lives.
@Hollywood6IX
@Hollywood6IX 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha covered stick around and stay tuned
@janihaavisto79
@janihaavisto79 3 жыл бұрын
Smokey started Sober? Then heard Nightwish and hasn't been sober since. 🤣🤣 Ik u meant band Sober. But he said it so that way that I had to say it out loud. Now when you do Nightwish again someday, check song Sahara from Tampa. Very different from usual songs. And in beginning of this song it was child that sang that part. Floors voice is tad fuller. N
@kezca
@kezca 3 жыл бұрын
This is why they are the best live band on the planet imho.
@b1gpapan3cr04
@b1gpapan3cr04 3 жыл бұрын
Taken in its entirety, I think this may have been a suicide note,/scheme. Pain and alienation. Rage and irony. Riding waves of manic depression, wishing to be washed away by the final wave. Finding him dead with the erased text (that his lifes passion really added up to nil). I believe the pendulum represents time, beckoning us to the end. And the longing is for it to stop teasing him and end his misery. Idk lol
@billattercliffe8655
@billattercliffe8655 3 жыл бұрын
That was a boy soprano at the beginning.
@papaverweg
@papaverweg 3 жыл бұрын
Although we agree Floor could sing this too it wasn’t her singing but a boy soprano. DPP's booklet quotation: "Lead boy soprano: Guy Elliott, 2nd boy soprano: Tom Williams, courtesy of the Reigate St Mary's Choir School, Choirmaster: John Tobin" On the original version with Anette the boy soprano sung part 1, 3, and 5. Those live performances with Floor she sings all parts except for part 1. This song is chronologically. It’s starts with part 1: The End (of their 1st vocalist Tarja) and ends with Part 5: The Beginning (a new start with their 2nd vocalist Anette). All build on the “Five stages of grief” 1. Denial 2. Protest (anger) 3. Negotiate and fight 4. Depression 5. Acceptance This song is autobiographical and not just fantasy, although it carries lots of fantastic elements in it. Tuomas the composer chose as main framework the story of Edgar Alan Poe ‘The Pit and the Pendulum’. Part one starts with whisperings. Lots of people talking about the event but behind your back. You know they are talking about you but doesn’t say that in your face. Than continues with the ‘White Lands of Emphatically’ (Book of Stephan King) is a snowy tundra located in End-World. The residents of Empathica are known for their abilities to empathize and share other people's emotions so the song starts with asking attention for the dilemma to choose between the survival of the band as a whole versus the personal career of the individual. The poet without a rhyme: Tuomas had been shocked for a long time and had lost his motivation to go on living, the reactions to the sending of Tarja had affected him so badly. The poet could not make any poem anymore.
@blissfull_ignorance8454
@blissfull_ignorance8454 3 жыл бұрын
Its a choir boy soprano at beginning that is singing, not floor.
@meganega123
@meganega123 3 жыл бұрын
I never understand how anyone would think it was Floor. It doesn't sound like her and she is not even on stage at that point
@pintsize6662
@pintsize6662 3 жыл бұрын
Her thank you at the end always gets me
@aidenplaysyt2613
@aidenplaysyt2613 2 жыл бұрын
That same keyboard player is actually the leader of that band by the way.
@dennisthemenace671
@dennisthemenace671 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic reaction guys , and thank you for using the lyric video i`m sure it helped .
@Hollywood6IX
@Hollywood6IX 3 жыл бұрын
100 percent it helped
@river114
@river114 3 жыл бұрын
It a boy singing in the intro, not Floor. He represents young Tuomas
@UnusSedLeo-w5l
@UnusSedLeo-w5l 3 жыл бұрын
18:59 says it all, I guess.
@stevehanson2398
@stevehanson2398 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great reaction to a great song. This is an extremely emotional song but you don't necessarily need to know the backstory in order to enjoy it. I'd heard it hundreds of times before I knew what it was about😕 In particular, I love how Tuomas borrowed from "The Pit and The Pendulum", a short story written in 1842 by Edgar Allan Poe. The story deals with the psychological torment of a prisoner in the Spanish Inquisition who is publicly tortured and executed for opposing the Catholic Church. He finds himself in a rat-infested, darkened room with slippery sloped floors leading to a Pit, with a swinging Pendulum above. The Pit signifies Death, the Pendulum represents Time and the sloped floors, rats and darkness symbolise Fear. The protagonist of the story opposed the Catholic Church as he was angry with God for taking away his birth mother, adopted mother and wife with plague and disease. I wonder if Toumas's anguish was caused NOT because he fired Tarja (the original singer) from the band, but because he felt publicly tortured and judged by his so-called fans for doing it the way he did. I believe the score was arranged into 5 separate acts to represent the 5 stages of grieving.
@Trevor21230
@Trevor21230 3 жыл бұрын
Also, when you see the other band members, particularly the older ones like Emppu (guitarist) and Marko (basist, male vocalist; aka "Thor"), hanging out around Tuomas (Keyboardist, composer, lyricist & founder), they're most likely just trying to make sure he's doing okay. He doesn't really like performing this song live due to its deeply emotional nature; he's no longer the same man who wrote this song, and it feels almost awkward to be reminded of that man he used to be. In fact, when they *do* perform it live, he often asks the audio tech to turn off his in-ears so he can't hear the lyrics.
@Hilariumosis
@Hilariumosis 3 жыл бұрын
There's quite a backstory to this and research going into it to fully grasp the story and emotional stages of the song.
@yurinaytar3023
@yurinaytar3023 3 жыл бұрын
The singer at the beginning is a choir boy from England. They are a Finnish metal band, but include a Dutch singer (Floor) and and an Irish multi instrument player. They have so many influences
@dalestevens3332
@dalestevens3332 2 жыл бұрын
Really need to read the background to this song. It’s about Toumas going through a near suicidal event after Tarja left the band in 2005.
@Agc2749
@Agc2749 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to recommend you check out Floors' cover of Oblivion. Her vocal on that is absolutely incredible
@leftyme4568
@leftyme4568 2 жыл бұрын
you need the background to get this boys........DO IT .....and try again! Do some work!
@Hollywood6IX
@Hollywood6IX 2 жыл бұрын
Will do
@w.b.t.127
@w.b.t.127 2 жыл бұрын
Now you've heard the Greatest performance of NIHTWISH.
@nk1974
@nk1974 2 жыл бұрын
Yes feels just like watching a movie.
@silverblack5475
@silverblack5475 3 жыл бұрын
Basically this is a song Tuomas ( keyboard player ) wrote after He fired the 1st singer Tarja who was beloved and he caught so much Hell from the public/media for it ....so much so , he considered suicide , wrote this masterpiece instead of actually doing it .
@WickedQueenAvice
@WickedQueenAvice 3 жыл бұрын
Moonlight Rendezvous by Beast in Black
@jamesdalessandro8728
@jamesdalessandro8728 3 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that is the first time you heared Marko sing. He is an extremely versatile and amazing vocalist.
@derbettahouse3813
@derbettahouse3813 Жыл бұрын
True story about Thomas/keyboard man and about Nightwish
@pekkakarppinen1608
@pekkakarppinen1608 3 жыл бұрын
Great reaction, but at the end of this song i always 😭😭😭
@als100
@als100 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, guys. Excellent, great reaction! As a music, this is already a masterpiece, and is an object of respect for the vast majority of Nightwish fans. But when you know the facts behind this song, it becomes even more amazing. A bit of the Nightwish story here... Tarja Turunen was the first singer of the band (you reacted to her in Phantom of The Opera cover from Nightwish) and was the lead singer for the first 5 albums of Nightwish. She was a long-time friend of Tuomas and was one of the founders of Nightwish, together with Emppu (the guitarist). When she married her husband, Marcelo, the band (and most of all Tuomas) felt that she changed and was not in the same mindset of the band anymore. After the show that became the "End of An Era" DVD (and from where that Phantom video came from), the band gave her a letter basically dismissing her from the band, and the day after the band published it as an open letter. After all this, Tuomas received a huge amount of hate from many fans for dismissing Tarja (I was into Nightwish at that time, and I felt it really hard when Tarja was fired, although I don't agree with all the flames). It was really worse when he admitted Anette Olzon as the new singer, as she doesn't have the operatic voice as Tarja has. All this brought him into a deep depression and, although actual suicide did not cross his mind, he created this song, The Poet And The Pendulum, to kill himself inside the song and expose his feelings. If you pay attention, the song describes an introduction on the first part, the immediate feelings he had after firing Tarja on the second part, the depression on the third part, the flames from fans and friends at the fourth part and the help he got from his parents on the fifth part (he actually used words that were said by his parents there). This song has many details, like when he says that he has only "three minutes and counting", three minutes after he "kills himself" in the song... like when he mentions the shoulder, some people think it's the band that's crying too, others think that's Tarja, which is also crying in the song. Tuomas sometimes asked to mute his in-ears to not listen to some parts of the song because he couldn't bear it. I can only imagine the toll this song took on Tuomas to deliver it at the time... he bared his soul in this music and exposed himself to everyone. That's why this song is so highly respected and admired by NW fans. Not only because of the musical mastery of the musicians, but also because of what this song represents. I hope that I could help you understand a bit more about this song and about Nightwish history. Your reaction to this song, even without knowing the story, was perfect in every way and the respect you two show for Nightwish is something to be recognized. I loved it! Thank you!
@aegonthedragon6341
@aegonthedragon6341 3 жыл бұрын
All Nightwish music (with a couple of exceptions) comes from the mind of Tuomas (keyboard player). Not only he writes all the lyrics but also he composes and arranges all the big orchestral parts you hear and those are then recorded in London by a real orchestra. He's pretty much a musical genius, nicknamed Metal Mozart by fans.
@zabper57
@zabper57 3 жыл бұрын
Since it’s October y’all should do some black metal. Mayhem Freezing moon live in Leipzig, Burzum dunkelheit, emperor I am the black wizards, inquisition astral paths to supreme majesties, immortal tyrants
@christinaalgate4899
@christinaalgate4899 3 жыл бұрын
It's a boy singing Soprano at the beginning. You should checkout her covers from her KZbin Channel
@HannahHinz8161
@HannahHinz8161 3 жыл бұрын
Please react to Sonata Arctica- White pearl black ocean the lyrics are just beautiful
@kimfabritiusdetengnagel2038
@kimfabritiusdetengnagel2038 3 жыл бұрын
Well gentlemen - any questions? 🤔 😂 If you want to tell a deep story - you need more than 4 minutes - that should be obvious. And you don't have to actually watch a movie, to get a deep understanding and a deep experience - Nightwish will do the job!! Yep - Floor is unique, and probably the only one who can make this song true justice. And Tuomas... well, he does this over and over again, creating these masterpieces - a true genius - simple as that. "3 minutes and counting" - exactly 3 minutes later he died... Imagine being able to write and compose this good! These 6 Nightwish people gives you experiences beyond anything else. And now you are ready to experience : "The Greatest Show on Earth", Tampere 2015 version - and remember to stay on until the video is completely finished - the speaking afterwards is an important part of the song!!! 21 - 23 minutes - that's what it takes to tell a story like this...... 😉
@arnaldotanta3630
@arnaldotanta3630 3 жыл бұрын
This song is a rollercoaster , a masterpiece of a genius performed by gods , and who needs auto- tune when we have Floor ,about the song the poet is tuomas but the guys did explain it already , greetings from Portugal 🤘🤘
@palantir135
@palantir135 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a choirboy singing. Remember the line ‘only three minutes and counting’? Look what happens after exactly three minutes.
@atomictsarina4378
@atomictsarina4378 3 жыл бұрын
Good catch! Actually, the poet you mentioned is Tuomas (there is his name mentioned before part IV starts) - a keyboardist :) This is a song written by him (like basically all of the Nightwish songs), about him and a very dark place he was in after the first Nightwish vocalist (who was his close friend as well) was kicked out from the band. This verse " I cannot cry cause the shoulder cries more" is about her being as much suffering as he was at this time. The verse "I cannot die, I, a whore for the cold world" is about a huge backlash that Tuomas received after his decision up to the point that he developed depression and was thinking about suicide. This song is katharsis for him - a metaphorical way to end with himself so he won't do that in real life.
@andrewcampbell425
@andrewcampbell425 Жыл бұрын
Guys if you want to hear floor do some serious metal vocals instead of Operatic find her stuff with ReVamp like Disdain at Graspop kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3-2l2lqgp6od5I
@SuperMoofie
@SuperMoofie 3 жыл бұрын
Missed you guys! Please do a lot more reactions to Nightwish. Your reactions are so great! :) There are so many fabulous songs to choose from, I would recommend Shoemaker from their latest album Human Nature. Here you get to hear Floor in her full operatic majesty, and believe me it will make your eyes leak.. The main voice singing in the chorus with her is Troy. Read the back story about Eugene Shoemaker first to give the song its true context :) Honestly tho, you could pick anything from them with Floor and it will be sensational :) All their songs have compex layers woven seamlessly together like invisible threads, and yes, they all tell a story, transcribed effortlessly by Floor, with passion and precision. They are all masters of what they do, and are the best of the best. They have a rare and special way of communicating and evoking feelings in us all, awakening a new level of understanding about the bigger picture in life, and confirming for others who already think that way. Yours is an Empty Hope (live from Wembley) Dead Boy's Poem (live in Buenos Aires) The Greatest Show on Earth (live in Tampere, Finland) Read the back story about it first, and you will appreciate it all the more :) Romanticide (Live from Wacken) Elven Jig & Elvenpath (live in Buenos Aires) There's so many more.. :)
@Berglundish
@Berglundish 2 жыл бұрын
I think the song is about hiding pain. That keyvoardplayer writes 95% of their lyrics AND music, he's a genius!
@rdmrdm2659
@rdmrdm2659 3 жыл бұрын
The song feels like a storm at sea winding up, raging on full, then the calm after the storm. Also, it starts with ‘the end, the songwriters dead’, and ends with ‘the beginning’
@johannessilver8653
@johannessilver8653 3 жыл бұрын
It is a boy choir in the first section....doing the singing, not her. Later the two singers Marco and Floor do great vocals together here and also they all act the story of this song so well. Hope you know what it is all about (and about who)...cause that is so vital to understand (without it one can not understand this song practically at all). Please...find out the name of the keyboard player and you will enter into a totally new magic world without return. By the way this song is on the album Dark Passion Play. Do research...about the poet (who) and also the pendulum (why). Then do older songs since year 1996 and you understand this band a bit more.
@racheldepuew2514
@racheldepuew2514 3 жыл бұрын
Your next listen should definitely be The Greatest Show on Earth. And if you want to hear more of Marco’s voice, there’s an older, but very beautiful song called The Islander. You should check out that one too. He is singing most of this song with backup from Floor.
@MilaMan
@MilaMan 3 жыл бұрын
Last chapter is actually a letter from Tuomas' mother to him.
@elskoorn5979
@elskoorn5979 3 жыл бұрын
I suggest Bloodbath - Eaten and Mayhem - Freezing Moon with Dead vocals?
@nielsdegroot9138
@nielsdegroot9138 3 жыл бұрын
Love the reaction. Small nitpick: the timing of the Nightwish video and the audio is slightly off.
@danieln6700
@danieln6700 7 ай бұрын
Amazing song. Its like 3 songs in one. Like music from an epic fantasy movie or video game
@joefish9300
@joefish9300 3 жыл бұрын
The first singer is a child male soprano. Not Floor. If you listen close, you can tell.
@oberon190848
@oberon190848 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if anyone said it yet but the voice at the beginning is a boy soprano from a choir, not Floor.
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