𝗕𝗮𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝘀𝗵𝗲 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗲𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗦𝘂𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗶'𝘀 𝗛𝗼𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗰 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗷𝗲𝗰𝘁【HololiveEN】

[@ItzzzzJavi]

Hakos Baelz, Suffering form success

[@shinodamasaru7945]

For me, overqualified members are: -Hakos -Laplus -Korone -Kobo -Shion

[@weiqianglin1314]

​@@shinodamasaru7945, that's Hologaki + korone 🤔

[@jiocrestfall]

I can see the edit: her holoween form doing the pose

[@shinodamasaru7945]

@@weiqianglin1314 I forgot Moona.

[@SherlockONI]

​@@shinodamasaru7945moona dancing i dont think so since koyoei was there and singing too well was not considered over qualified since most if not all of them sing really well of course moona risu and azki are considered singing monsters between hololive reason why some people would say that but still

[@mzou89]

Honestly if Bae asked Suisei will definitely find the right choreo for everyone. One of the things Suisei had the most fun with in Hoshimatic was just thinking of the different choreos they could do if each of the girls got to be a center. Sui's loves being the producer too much and I'm sure she'll think of a way to showcase Bae's talents the best.

[@shadowtheimpure]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Suisei 'graduate' from talent to producer at some point in the far future.

[@2010Hunt3r]

Imagine if this was a ploy to make Bae think she's overqualified and then later this year Suisei invites Bae to "teach" the other dancers only to get Center for one of the songs

[@azurerider812]

Comet playing 4d chess like its Tetris 99

[@abbysaito5348]

I wouldn't be surprised if this happened. Not after what she pulled this past hoshimatic project to hide who the centers were lol

[@hashira4869]

Please don't debuff Bae. Her energetic dance is her identity.

[@LeCh1mp]

𝗛𝗼𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗰 all-stars fill it with the best dancers in holo.

[@reonnn9901]

Bae , Kobo , La+ , Shion , Moona ,

[@shinodamasaru7945]

​@@reonnn9901put Korone too

[@priestesslucy]

​@@reonnn9901huh, somehow I am surprised Towa isn't on that list.

[@FeienFabi]

​@@reonnn9901 Kiara too

[@azurerider812]

@@priestesslucy she already was on the Project.

[@rs.matr1x]

Bae: Please just let me dance Chris Farley: LET THE GIRL DANCE!!! SHE JUST WANTS TO DANCE!!! LOOK AT THIS RAT!!! SHE CAN DANCE!!!

[@GeronKizan]

BAE: Oh hey look who's here. Nice to see you again. You look great. Let me dance in Hoshimatic. Don't shake your head no. Let me dance in Hoshimatic. Nothing weird is gonna happen. I'll dance in the same way you dance. I'll even wash your uniforms. CHRIS FARLEY: SWEET MOTHER OF GOD WHAT'S THE HOLD UP!?!? LET THE RAT DANCE IN HOSHIMATIC!!!!! SHE SAID SHE'LL WASH THE UNIFORMS! EH?!

[@schrottinator]

Bae: Who is Chris Farley?

[@tedjomuljono3052]

​@@schrottinatora fat guy who used to be in SNL decades ago

[@rs.matr1x]

@@GeronKizan Bae: please don't make me wash the uniforms Chris Farley: SHE'S A CLEAN RAT! WASH YOUR OWN DAMN UNIFORMS!

[@GeronKizan]

@@rs.matr1x (real talk didn't expect a herlihy boy reference in a Hololive comment section)

[@OhWaker]

Bae is like a professional backup dancer who somehow stumbled into Hololive

[@-Raylight]

When you're overqualified for the job... Bae is gonna -drum- dance like she's Michael Jackson, but ofc she still want the spotlight on Suisei xD

[@MarineRX179]

Still sad that she didn't get to meet "Miracle Johnson" or done his related sub-quests in Yakuza 0. Would have loved to see her reaction 😐

[@Chaos2Frozen]

Bae needs to be like "No trust me bro, I'm washed."

[@jordanholloman5907]

When the rat is cleaner than the orca.

[@niconojuegos]

I would love to see the two best EN dancers in Kiara and Bae be able to maybe participate a little in a dance project like Hoshimatic or something similar to it. I think they’d do so well

[@wertyjax]

My rat cant be this good at dancing!!!😂😂

[@kuroh2218]

She truly can dance cute😊

[@kherubim1]

She was adorable in the Holostars Countdown Live.

[@usagipaige5377]

I could think they could find a spot for Bae. I know most regard AkiRose as a gifted dancer and she added to the project. Would love to see some EN talent in this.

[@NeoCreo1]

It’s likely that they just wanted a few top members with similar dance styles to the choreography they are planning. A lot of the members are on the weaker side when it comes to dancing

[@maxplaying]

Bae has taken off and is unstoppable, many successes

[@richardtengcy]

She’s too good at dancing that it make it super obvious when dancing with other idols. 😅

[@LibJumper]

Yeah Nene already had that effect. She was so natural that it made others look more clunky.

[@kuzumadesu]

Greatness recognizing greatness

[@rabbitribbit8710]

"And Bae flossed before Matsuri with all her might." 2 Suisei 6:14

[@jrtime228]

Suisei: Bae is to good of a dancer to be in the project. Bae: PUT ME IN COACH! PLEASE! PUT ME IN!

[@Wyrdwad]

Ah, "flos" is a good song! Definitely sing that in the background. Mash it up with whatever the rest of Hoshimatic Project is dancing to. ;)

[@azelynhirano]

That's not what she meant...

[@Wyrdwad]

@@azelynhirano I know! I'm making a joke. ;)

[@stroodlepup]

Bae should make a unit with La+ and kiwawa

[@spacetator69]

Imagine Baematic project with Kiara, Moona and Kobo.

[@VindyCh.]

So basicly a Hololive version of KDA / G-idle lol

[@suhnih4076]

Sui-chan can't handle the power of the rrat

[@HudaefCares]

Subaru was in Hoshimatic tho lol. I'd like to see Laplus and Hajime next time. There's a next time right?

[@yearninetyseven]

people who are unaware that the "floss" is a type of dance move: "Why on earth would Bae floss in the background?"

[@kweassa6204]

I don't think it'd be a problem. Dancing alone or in small duo, trio groups and dancing as a part of a larger group is a totally different ordeal. For example, classic dancing, such as ballet, specifically acknowledge the Corps de Ballet is an art of its own and often the talents and the visions of the director are most vividly realized with the Corps de Ballet, not necessarily the lead roles. It's not like everyone in the first Hoshimatic project were total newbies in dancing as well. But what made the project special was the fact that this project was the first time it presented a large-scale, organized group choreography in hololive. It was a new territory for even talented dancers like Subaru, so Baelz would probably fit right in, too.

[@NeoCreo1]

As others have mentioned, adding experienced dancers to a group that intends to train up amateurs would throw off the balance. They have a few great dancers there likely to help lead the others that have a style that meshes with the planned choreography.

[@kweassa6204]

@@NeoCreo1 Again, dancing in small groups and larger groups is an entirely different game. There are more important things than individual talent in group choreography, and those are separate things to be learned. Hence, the comparison to Corps de Ballet.

[@KO_tomon]

When Hajime get her 3D, the performance I want to see the most is the BoomBoom duo singing and dancing together

[@PokeWhalee]

Her flossing might even take attention away from the center lmao

[@GameAceTaylor]

"I just wanna dance." - Danny Sexbang, Hakos Baelz

[@MidnightCrescent]

I need to see Bae and Kiara do a collab choreo.

[@johnokland1652]

Tbf I don't think they mean she's better than the end product of hoshipro but she's good enough that with a little practice of like syncing with everyone and learning the choreography it would be easy for her to pick up where a good chunk of these girls werent the best dancers in Holo and were not only working hard on the basics but worked hard to perfect the group aspect of it

[@kledmass]

or that she should lead her own group!

[@Mad___Hatter]

She used to be a semi-professional street dancer bruh

[@RexusprimeIX]

@@Mad___Hatter Yeah, this dude doesn't know what overqualified means.

[@stevenlee3240]

Do you know what overqualified means? Suisei literally said that she was too good that it could be problem. Hoshimatic Project is supposed to be a project to produce and train amateur dancers for performance. Baelz being there can throw off the balance of the group. She is among the best dancer in Hololive right now. I mean, if she is even better than Suisei herself in term of dancing, what’s there to teach? Plus, the choreography chosen for amateurs is much different from the one the pro use. If you apply pro choreography which contains much complicated movements including small details for amateurs dancer like Towa or Iroha in Hoshimatic Project, they will fail to perform. If you use amateurs choreography which contains easy movements but still eye catching, you can’t bring out the real charm of the dancer. They can train dancers like Towa or Iroha or Chloe in the project all they want. It will still require years to reach Baelz since she was already a professional dancer with years of experience before she became Vtuber. Those dances she did in concert were hers btw. Unlike others who require choreography instructors and directors aside from someone like Kiara of course.

[@gokbay3057]

"A good chunk of these girls weren't the best dancers in Holo" Yeah, that's kind of the point. As other responses have stated Bae already is one of the best dancers in Hololive, while creating a group of the best dancers could be another option to have Bae in something similar than that wouldn't be Hoshimatic Project because as much as I love her Suisei isn't that good of a dancer (she's decent, I love watching her on stage but you could easily name 5 better dancers in Hololive, probably 10 or more as well. Suisei knows that isn't one of her strengths, hence if you see her concerts and compare them to some other members she has some of the lowest amount of dancing).

[@martymcfly5220]

She's coping by saying that she'll stand still in the back.... In before she starts trolling and t-posing the entire time

[@Ahmedyaksha]

our rat suffering from success

[@goukenslay7555]

She's too good.. Wait too good? She's in shambles.

[@GeronKizan]

BAE: ....well fine....then I'll make my own dance group! WITH BLACKJACK! AND HOOKERS! IN FACT! FORGET THE DANCE GROUP!!!

[@blackjacktrial]

I didn't sign up for this, but fine... Also, who would be in HoloDance? I imagine we have to include Bae, Suisei, Aki, Kiara, Laplus and Kobo. Maybe Lui to make it a seven unit? Is there anyone who could dance battle one of those seven to take their spot (as seems fair for that unit - you have to defend your spot if someone throws down on you.)

[@021chan]

I wonder if Suisei will try to do something involving the project for her 3rd live, which is supposedly gonna happen this year

[@Lorachzwan]

We need to see Bae flossing in the background one way or another

[@beemoh]

She can stand around in the background. Hakos Bez.

[@johnmartins-ij7un]

yep very overqualified because of the fact that she was able to dance 5 separate characters in her song future star

[@kissena3830]

Ganbare Baelz-chan I think you can still enter / join hoshimatic project and dance.

[@AstromanShuffle]

If Baelz was too overqualified, then why weren't Aki and Matsuri too overqualified? Their prefered dancestyles are different than Baelz' but they're also damn good dancers in their own right.

[@Gatitasecsii]

Dance is such an underrated artform i think

[@usuigremory]

Bae: can I join? Talents: No you're too good "Bae Suffering from success"

[@StephenrHamilton]

Worst case Bae would just have to participate blindfolded to balance things out.

[@myrtlekenazjanairo9411]

well let me tell you one thing, just standing there in the background while your group is dancing will ccause to have more attention yknow lmao!🤣 Ive been in a dance group in highschool before and my role was suddenly barging in and looking dumb in the background doing nothing until I join them in the final chorus😅

[@jujukamiyu]

Suichan basically saying that Baechan already passed the audition.

[@susanokami3453]

Suffering from sucess

[@Chymeee]

I just realised but damn bae in this outfit is packing serious stuff

[@yuji5134]

Now THIS is suffering from success xD

[@RosetaiのKuroNavi]

just gotta reallocate your skill points Bae

[@whong09]

She can dance if she wants to dang it

[@CrimsonShard3r0r]

In another way, she was safe from some dangerous people in the group 😂😂

[@sergeandou9853]

She could do a master class or something tho.

[@_la__al_6667]

when your skill level is too high😅 Poor Bae... However i hope Suisei and management will one day find the right team members to collab with Bae to allow the rat to get a chance to dance in the Hoshimatic Project...

[@bhirawamaylana466]

Bae the Rat who don't know left and right 😢.

[@hamsterjohn]

And still I bet her asian tiger mom says 'not good enough'

[@mongooserina]

Is rrat's cake too much for Hoshimatic project to handle?

[@R2robot]

Is that a picture of Irys on the wall new?

[@sauerkrautlanguage]

rat suffering from success

[@lauwwijaya8107]

How about a tree background

[@bentcn8511]

Just make your own dance project.

[@ShiroganeKaiser]

The cute rat just want to dance :

[@mrparkx2]

Can anyone tell me what hoshimatic project is?

[@chainsaw7638]

Yes

[@Bam_bone]

Dam takin the spot from someone who needs it. Tsk tsk tsk smh

[@unknownentity8024]

I misread overqualified as ovulation, I just wanted to say that, good bye

[@sufianramli]

Yeah, GSH man. Lots of it

[@gokbay3057]

lol

[@billylukman3839]

Let Her dance

[@jolynefanacount4326]

I still don't know what Suisei said exactly

[@Berstich]

So she fully living in Japan now?

[@suruzu]

Isn't it the clipper and clipwatchers' fault that this whole overqualified thing happened? Anyone who watches Sui would know it was a compliment and that she'd snag Bae in a heartbeat if another Hoshimatic project happens

[@gokbay3057]

I mean, "overqualified" is a compliment. It acknowledges that someone is skilled, indeed too skilled. I do agree that if next year they were doing another Hoshimatic with different members and Bae explicitly and directly asked Suisei to join then Suisei would accept her in a heartbeat. But Suisei did say Bae was too good at dancing. Maybe it is just translations not being able to fully carry the context and very or really might fit better than too for the translation.

[@tvftw1]

Becky Lemme dance

[@BakusanDayo]

Maybe Suisei can ask Bae to be one of the instructors who ALSO performs with the girls?

[@HaesslichG]

Bae can make them look bad, which could discourage others from trying. And there's no way Bae could just be in the background.

[@rodrigolivsan]

Not really, Bae might even make the girls step up. One helping another one is the way they can grow

[@adotac]

Pessimism and optimism, which do you think made them not quit hololive at this point of time.

[@blackjacktrial]

Bae would need to be the sensei here. Which only works if you do a rivals arc, where Bae and say Kiara (both fluent JP and EN) train talents across all agencies to make it into Hoshimatic. Think like your reality TV shows (the Voice/Ultimate Fighter types, where you have coaches who have to send out members of their teams against each other.)

[@McDudes]

Bae is most likely the best dancer in Hololive together with Aki

[@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke]

La+ is up there with the best dancers. She's just debuffed with having the shortest avatar yet has the biggest horns, longest hair, and most oversized sleeves.

[@GK-st6qm]

Kobo as well, the gakis are all cracked@@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke

[@LongTran-x9z6n]

Aki and Bae's styles are completely different though. For Bae's dance style, there are Kobo, La+, Shion who are just right below her. As for Aki's, there is only Aki.

[@VerbalLearning]

Are Vtubers? Or are we dancers?

[@OOZ662]

I assume it's a side effect of the average horny level of internet users, but I've never seen Bae do a cute or idol-like dance ala Hoshimatic. All the clips I've seen go by are dirty street-style dancing with aggressive movements and hips flying in all directions, so I'd come to the conclusion that I just didn't enjoy her dancing. I'd be happy to have that changed.

[@HiHiHiz]

suisei only want jp lol

[@LongTran-x9z6n]

Tbh, Bae's style only fits the 2nd song though. None of the songs require modern breakdancing choreography so her skill would not show much.

[@Jektastic]

Bae doesn't breakdance...

[@pedrocasino0512]

why don't the talents also make the choreo? Bae vs. Kiara would be good choreographers

[@MyselfAgain]

Suisei could always use an assistant coach. Just saying.

[@CJODell12]

So Bae asked Suisei to join, but she got rejected?

[@darkflames9039]

Suisei not inviting Bae because she's too good (and being in the background would be a waste) makes me understand the Idol agencys that didn't let Suisei join for be overqualified lmao.

[@gokbay3057]

I mean, Bae is also in Australia. She is moving to Japan but afaik hasn't moved yet. Hoshimatic Project wasn't just a performance in the Countdown Concert. Nor was it just that + the three streams they did in the official channel. They also had other training sessions where they were all together. Bae is an amazing dancer but practice is still necessary (especially because in formation dancing like Hoshimatic Project it is not just your moves that matters but others and your position relative to them as well) not living in the same country is a very good reason that makes her participation a practical impossibility. It probably would have required a significantly longer stay in Japan compared to just the participation in the regular concert. That was probably a larger concern than Bae being too good. The question of being overqualified and whether or not Bae will participate if a second Hoshimatic Project happens is more of a matter for next year.

[@Morgan.x3p]

She lives in Japan now @@gokbay3057