I go over all the pros and cons of each Holosun Red Dot: 507C 407C 507K 407K Also talk about the ACSS Vulcan reticle. Link to the 507C ACSS Vulcan Red Dot: amzn.to/3T9ANTT
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@miggymig83 Жыл бұрын
Quality review! However, I think the title is a bit misleading. Regular 507c is a 2 moa dot w/ a 32 moa ring around it. 507c ACSS is the primary arms variation with the chevron and the massive ring to help you find the dot.
@Nvaus1 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered the 407C for my Glock 20 gen 5.
@eyesnearstactical Жыл бұрын
Very solid review/ comparisons. I’m looking into my first red dot so I’ve been watching videos on KZbin. This was the best, I’m convinced now the Holosun 407c Green Dot will be good for my G19. I subscribed! Thanks a lot! 👍🏾
@georgeformby51617 ай бұрын
Hey I came to the same conclusion
@eyesnearstactical7 ай бұрын
@@georgeformby5161 great minds think alike! 👍🏾🤣
@georgeformby51617 ай бұрын
@@eyesnearstactical are you still happy with your choice?
@eyesnearstactical7 ай бұрын
@@georgeformby5161 yes indeed!
@joeytomato Жыл бұрын
I've owned and shot just about every brand MRD on the market, and I've come to the conclusion that the Holosun 407Cx2 is pretty much the best all around red dot on the market. Reliability, price, battery life, battery placement, brightness, and durability... It checks all the boxs. Are there "better" options? I'm sure, because better is completely subjective, but when everything is put on paper, the Holosun is just about impossible to beat. That said... I personally prefer the plane ol' 2moa dot (talking to you Holosun 407k!!) It's all preference, but I've always shot the smaller dots, so the 6moa (and up) just seems huge.
@TheRange7Ай бұрын
Other than dot size, it's hard to argue with your choice here. Humble Marksman loves 2 MOA and even 1 MOA dots. He's a great marksman with obvious skill and great eyes. I need that 6 MOA with my old eyes.LOL
@porteneur1 Жыл бұрын
Hey dude. I have the Holosun HE507K-GR-X2 Compact mounted on a Sig Sauer p365 x macro. and it is bad ass. What i love about these sights are the ability to Co-Witness the sights. Great review and thanks for the comparison. I am the militia.
@Dcole-_- Жыл бұрын
I just got the Macro! You think the 507k-Gr is still my best option??
@miketaylorID1 Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for this video! Was a big help! Very illustrative. Carry is something new here in NJ. So my needs in a red dot have changed. Size/fit moves up the requirements matrix- smaller being better - to a point. Seeing a 407/507 mounted is a huge help!! Having a sight overhang the sides of a purposefully slim pistol like a G48 seems counterproductive. So your side-by-side cleared that all up Plus Holosun naming gets confusing. So. Big thanks ! Btw. Love the range! To have that much space!! If only….
@TheRange7Ай бұрын
I have 507C with the circle dot reticle and a couple with the ACSS reticle. I have 2 -507K with the circle dot and 2-407K with the 6 MOA dot. If I'm being 100% frank, there's not a bad one in the bunch. For my wallet, these are the standard by which I measure all others. I know many poo poo them due to country of origin. Hey, whatever butters your popcorn is fine by me. I have been very patient on waiting for sales except for the last 507K I bought. I needed it and had gift cards and points to use on the Amazon so i paid full freight $295. Another guy in the comments on another channel was telling me he's had outstanding service from a budget dot called Cyelee. In fact he went into some detail and his use levels were very impressive. I have to agree with Dude and Some about the 6 MOA dot....it's awesome. I bought the 507K only cuz I had the extra dough via those gift card and points from the CC. I'm gonna take a flyer on a Cyelee and test it out. FWIW, just IMHO here guys, the ACSS reticle is the best on the market. It makes it easier than heck to pick up the dot even for old dudes like me. I do a lot of clun level competition shooting and need all the dot help I can get. As far as Holsun quality, my personal opinion it's very high on both the models the Dude reviews here. Both are highly recommended by this old man. If I find out these Cyelee's are as good as this guy was saying yesterday, I'm going to be a bit frustrated that I spent to muh. LOL Kidding, buy once cry once. Also worth a mention, the only two brands I didn't have good luck with are Swampfox and Riton. The one and only Swampfox I bought was not bright enough for day light shooting for me. The Roton was full time auto brightness and a total fail for my purposes. I liked Dude's review a lot. Like him I want to try a closed emitter soon, but shooting season will be done for us in a few months. Maybe Black Friday will present some great deals on one...the EPS Micro is what I'm looking at.
@noonespecific9463 Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison, after seeing the recitals and the dots, I think I need the circle, I struggle regaining the dot sometimes after recoil, I’m looking for accuracy and not so worried about speed right now though, I’m going to sleep on it and make a choice in the morning. I’m pretty sure the green chevron with the circle is my winner, the shake awake is what originally got my attention. Much better than having to push a button and hoping the last brightness setting is going to work for the current lighting , I will have to rewatch to see if the chevron came in a closed emitter version. That’s going to be the most trouble free choice long term I’m thinking. Thank you for this content!
@spookinoff Жыл бұрын
I'm sure know this by now, but just in case, you can get the Holosun 509 with the ACSS Vulcan reticle. It is an enclosed emitter optic with the chevron and circle. Hope that helps!
@rooster.actual Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Best video I've found explaining the difference and helped me make my decision.
@FOLLOWER_OF_Christ22 Жыл бұрын
I dont understand how I havent come across your channel before but I love it. You got a quick sub from me. Great content brother the time and effort you put in is showing for sure
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I appreciate it.
@zhouanderson8279 Жыл бұрын
I have both, I think both are fine. 407C is good enough for me.
@joeytomato Жыл бұрын
It's my favorite out of the lot! I prefer just a simple 2moa dot... So everything else is just money I don't need to spend.
@JJ_SDWR Жыл бұрын
@@joeytomato I have the dot & 32 moa ring on my rifle but I feel like it would be too cluttered on a pistol sight. I'm leaning towards the 407c over the 507c for my first red dot on my G19
@RoadSKOL Жыл бұрын
@@JJ_SDWR This was my exact thinking and I went with the 407C x2
@AndrewSzekely9 ай бұрын
thanks for very detailed review, trying to decide between green and red dot in diff lighting scenario
@lannygarrison28679 сағат бұрын
With having both and shooting both in competition and normal shooting I pick the 507c on a full size pistol
@fredvStein7 ай бұрын
I only recently discovered the ACSS Vulcan system with a 250MOA circle. I find that most helpful for someone who is new to red dots and needs some "training wheels" so to speak with learning to quickly acquire the center reticle. The chevron is very cool, but I prefer a dot. On a defensive CCW I think a 6MOA is perfect, while the 2MOA is better for accuracy. The 2MOA dot / 32MOA circle on the MRS system is really great, but costs the most.
@ADudeAndSomeGuns7 ай бұрын
I would much rather a dot instead of the chevron for a pistol. I keep telling them that. I think we’ll see that soon. The acss Vulcan dot is already in a few of their dots. But not the 507 dot. Still waiting.
@fredvStein6 ай бұрын
@@ADudeAndSomeGuns Sometimes there are too many options to consider. A 2MOA dot is for accuracy, a 250MOA circle is for learning. I don't see how those would pair together - maybe a 6MOA dot and a 250MOA circle, but probably not going to be any better than a chevron for infrequent shooter who is learning to quickly find the dot.
@ADudeAndSomeGuns6 ай бұрын
@@fredvStein there’s no situation where I wouldn’t want to have that large 250moa ring. Unconventional positions or weak side shooting. There’s a lot of reasons to have it.
@fredsalter19156 ай бұрын
Great video! I just bought a 407c. A suggestion to make your vids even better: get a clip-on mic, like a Rode or something. You have a good voice, but it doesn't come through that great on your camera mic. God bless, good sir!
@ADudeAndSomeGuns6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tip man. My new videos have better audio. (New mic). I’m evolving…..
@dubldeez8855 Жыл бұрын
Great video, exactly what i was looking for, keep it up! New sub!
@iDizzy0 Жыл бұрын
Super detailed video, great job!
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@hornmtn9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great comparison!!!
@mannygvera2 ай бұрын
Great video. Wanted to ask how you ran the holosun on your 43x while co-witnessing 11:51 your stock sights? Is that the MOS version or did you direct mill a normal 43x?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns2 ай бұрын
@@mannygvera that’s an mos version. I’d recommend that over the hassle of milling
@Wesblumarine5 ай бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the review. I know what to get for G17. Thank you. Subbed!
@ADudeAndSomeGuns5 ай бұрын
Thanks dude
@HoustonTx_3 ай бұрын
Thank you great review 👍🏽
@cryeredd75635 ай бұрын
definitely could've named these better
@samwilliams13975 ай бұрын
Good review but very difficult to follow which model you were referring to throughout the video.
@SojuBmb4 ай бұрын
Looks like the stock glock sights clear just enough to be functional backup sights. I have the ameriglo idot pros and I’m thinking of getting 507c/comp. On g17.3 once milled. Hoping it’ll get similar clearance so I don’t need new irons.
@ellissmithjr65998 ай бұрын
Question Please.... Did I understand you in saying that with the 407c has a smaller choices in the font-size ?🤔
@anielparache Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Darkmatterprops2 ай бұрын
What reticles are being shown at 3:57? These look different from the ACSS and the 2MOA with 32MOA ring. Nevermind... around 6:45 I saw the camera focus adjusting and the reticle I was seeing that looked so different was just the out of focus ACSS. It made it look like a thick outer ring and a center 6MOA dot, lol.
@920WASHBURN Жыл бұрын
Shake awake is great. Auto brightness works ok but it's way to dim.
@joeytomato Жыл бұрын
That's the only thing I have ever given holosun a ding for. ...but to be fair to Holosun, I've never owned an auto adjust red dot that was great. Messed around last year and bought a near 700 dollar Trijicon Dual Illuminated RMR for an M9A4 (I do stupid things sometimes) and its NEVER bright enough. Full sunlight will dim it passed being visible, and a TLR1 HL light will completely wash out the triangle. It really only works well if you go into a completely dark closet, with no other light source. Then it glows like new money... But at that point, you can't see what's in front of the gun to aim at! Never been more disappointed in money spent on this hobby.
@920WASHBURN Жыл бұрын
@@joeytomato I see. I just thought Chinese people had really good eyes. Yeah trijicon is absurdly overpriced.
@joeytomato Жыл бұрын
@@920WASHBURN 🤣
@TheRange7Ай бұрын
auto brightness is a feature that I don't like at all. Too many times it's been wrong and caused me to fall way back in matches.
@jacksoneverett5817 Жыл бұрын
Where did you find that price for the 407C?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
Primary arms.
@johnhatchel9681 Жыл бұрын
507k green.
@G3Steve Жыл бұрын
What slide are you using with the 507?
@g37_ro50Ай бұрын
Which optic is best for a GLOCK 27?
@justinnava3364 Жыл бұрын
I’m putting together a g19 clone and picked up a 507c to top it off
@Bklynboyinpa Жыл бұрын
What plate did you use on the 407k
@murkyturkey52384 ай бұрын
I think it’s funny that the lower battery life is still 10,000 hours 😂
@MikeV671Ай бұрын
I went with the 407k for my 43x (green dot) it’s great, but I notice it’s got quite a bit of flare on it. Anyone else have this issue and is there a way to fix it?
@jacobdesimone869611 ай бұрын
507C or 507K for p320 xcarry spectre? Full size grip module, 3.9” slide. I just got a 507C for mine but it doesn’t sit flush with the slide
@alanphillips1344 Жыл бұрын
What’s your opinion on mounting a 407K on a full size pistol? I have one and a Springfield XDM Elite 4.5.
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
I’d put a larger redot on a full-size. The only reason I use the smaller 407k/507k would be because I have a smaller pistol that can’t fit a larger red dot on. I’d want a larger field of view if I can get it.
@rebelfromva11 ай бұрын
For a 10mm woods/carry wanting the dot version, which would you go with? I really like a green dot as well.
@ADudeAndSomeGuns11 ай бұрын
Def go 507C red or green. Bigger window would be better
@MrBurdinekl Жыл бұрын
I'm no expert, but you questioned whether the point of impact on the chevron is the top (point), center, or bottom. The whole point of the chevron is to provide a finite point for exact accuracy; so it's the point at the top. That said, I'm sure some guns simply do not impact on the point depending on loads, etc, , but you should adjust the sight until it does. Right?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
I didn't question where ther impact should be, but when presenting the chevron on target, you have to remember thr tip is the POI. The Chevron takes up alot of the target. I'd prefer a dot honestly....
@TheRange7Ай бұрын
@@ADudeAndSomeGuns The point of the chevron in the money shot if you're zero'd properly assuming you shoot competition. I have to say I prefer the ACSS just because it makes it easy for a big dummy like me to find the dot on those super bright, cold, and windy days. LOL Getting old sucks but it beats the alternative.
@dwayneinsanetv61647 ай бұрын
Which optic is best for GLOCK 26
@davidgunther12823 ай бұрын
The shake awake, will caring it in a holster and walking around wake it? I can see it turning itself off while sitting in my safe, but if it can feel movement while carrying, will it be on while holstered?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns3 ай бұрын
Yep. My 407k battery is still chugging after close to a year carrying. I’ll probably change it soon.
@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator Жыл бұрын
Man it's hard to beat the "Elite" or HE407c x2 Green 2moa dot. Solar & fully automatic for less than $200 shipped to my door on my Dagger SW4 Upper on my G19X Frame. Most don't know or say there's a difference between the "HE or Elite" compared to the "HS or Standard" versions
@eddieengland988610 ай бұрын
Where did you find it for under $200? It's $259 every where I look. Thanks!
@xxsilentwhistlexx9 ай бұрын
Did you change backplates to fit the dagger uppers on your 19x? I heard it’s necessary to mix and match slides cause they are different Gens.
@JoshG23014 ай бұрын
Which one would fit my Canik tp9 elite sc
@pacorojas8122 Жыл бұрын
Do they both fit the trijicon rmr footprint?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
The 507c and 407c fit rmr footprints. K models do not.
@CeeWorld694 ай бұрын
Did you edit this on filmora??
@ADudeAndSomeGuns4 ай бұрын
Possibly….
@CeeWorld694 ай бұрын
@@ADudeAndSomeGuns I know this because I used that instrumental at the beginning on my other channel 😂😂. I was like WAIT, I know that beat!! 😆🤣🔥
@ericscott29917 ай бұрын
For a Hellcat would the 507c fit or would I be stuck with the 507k?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns7 ай бұрын
Hellcat is RMSc Shield footprint. So only the k models fit.
@impostersnake408911 ай бұрын
The chevron is whats been keeping me from making my final decision but i noticed the dot ACSS , but i do want the larger 507 with a dot as well as i want a solar panel with the ACSS vulcan. I also want a closed system
@shroey209 ай бұрын
What else?
@rudigomez4 ай бұрын
Will the solar power work without a battery in it?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns4 ай бұрын
No
@GlockChamp- Жыл бұрын
Can I put 407k on G21
@edermata9106 Жыл бұрын
What holosun should I put on the new sig p365 x macro tac ops without the como ?
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the 407k and 507k would fit.
@shroey2010 ай бұрын
I have a Glock 23 Gen 3. Would I need the K or C series for my handgun?
@kcp919 ай бұрын
I have that same gun. I went 507C Green with the multi reticle option. He didn't cover that here, which is a shame, as it has some nice features. Just sent my slide, 507C and suppressor sights off to JagerWerks for a milling, nitride finish and sight install. Black Friday sale was $105 and my shipping was $25. So 140 for a direct milling mount specifically for the 507C. Ameriglo sights were 60 on amazon, and the 507C was black friday deal at 295. Merry XMas to me, can't wait to get it back! I also have a 9mm conversion barrel for this gun, so i get the best of both worlds. And i got it as a police trade in, which made it cheap enough to have the finger bumps removed. My only "modded" pistol, so a slide milling seemed in order...
@shroey209 ай бұрын
@kcp91 Nice. I sent my slide to Wager Machine Works (it's there right now) to get cut for an RMR footprint (fits Trijicon RMR & SRO and also the Holosun 407C, 507C and 508T) as well as black nitride treatment. They said it would take 2-3 weeks for everything. When my slide gets back, I plan on mounting a Holosun 508T on it.
@FireManTTSOM8 ай бұрын
They are nice but customer service is terrible.
@chrisg9602 Жыл бұрын
Iam getting my frist dot which one should I get the 407 or 507. Range use only
@ADudeAndSomeGuns Жыл бұрын
What you can afford. They’re both solid.
@kcp919 ай бұрын
For range, get the 507 multi reticle system. They have green and red, I prefer green. The 32 moa open circle option would be great for speed, I'm going to be training on it for IDPA competitions. I've been doing IDPA about 7 years now. Everything was iron sights when I started and I was decent, like top 1/3-1/4 overall. They opened up the Carry Optics class and now I'm lower 1/2. Giving it a shot in 2024...
@RAND0MHERO Жыл бұрын
Is it pretty standard to have to replace stock iron sights to suppressor height sights when running a red dot? Or does it just depend on the red dot?
@Tducks72 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you should use suppressor height iron sights no matter the dot. You need that extra height to line that back sight with the front sight while looking through that window to co witness if need be.
@josequinonez8900 Жыл бұрын
Mostly all of them yes However check out the new holosun scs that they just released a while back, they created it for the MOS version and it’s intended to be used with the stock sights
@craven1927 Жыл бұрын
@@josequinonez8900 I think you mean the EPS
@josequinonez8900 Жыл бұрын
@@craven1927 No I did mean the scs, it was designed for the glock MOS to be used without the plates, I don’t know much about the EPS but if you can also run it with stock iron sights then that’s pretty interesting to know
@craven1927 Жыл бұрын
@@josequinonez8900 yeah, the websote states: "The EPS features our lowest deck height, facilitating use with standard height iron sights on many pistol models." I also saw where it says the same for the SCS so I guess they both do it
@Mr.Obvious- Жыл бұрын
Took Mine off and sold it takes to long to look threw it so seconds count. If I am In a fire fight I dont wat a red dot
@lancebangwell7 ай бұрын
Its all in the training, I felt the same way, but eventually red dot is faster.
@Mr.Obvious-7 ай бұрын
That is true I would say I am in my 60s never had anything like that growing up. All new stuff to me I am old school I guess, might try it again and give it more time. Thanks friend.@@lancebangwell
@Weasel84x5 ай бұрын
I had never shot a reflex sight until last week. Literally took a few shots and was already faster than standard sights for me. I have one eye, so that may be why.
@USAF-NGADАй бұрын
@@Weasel84x having one eye must suck but I imagine that makes target and sight acquisition incredibly easy.
@stevekrygier518 Жыл бұрын
Very confusing. Too much to choose from.
@josephmcbrien7646 Жыл бұрын
For real
@richardbristol4529 ай бұрын
Neither. Buy an American made Trijicon RMR and have the best, most durable red dot you can own.
@ADudeAndSomeGuns9 ай бұрын
Lol. The guys playing catch up to holosun? Yeah I’m good.
@disdurbed1009 ай бұрын
Hell no. Double the price but half as many features. My holosun have never failed me but I’ve watched an rmr fail two different times
@richardbristol4529 ай бұрын
@@disdurbed100 If you like Chinese stuff, then I guess. Hold both in your hand. There is simply no comparison. The RMR is built far stronger, with thicker aluminum, clearer glass, perfect, tight clearances, and zero gimmicks, like some huge red ring that no one who trains with their dot needs anyway. And it’s also made without a cheap label plastered in big white letters across each side. That label alone should steer you away from Holosun. The lettering makes it look like a cheap toy that I wouldn’t want on my firearm. I’ve been using American made Trijicon dots in various forms for over 10 years without a single failure. And who the hell pays double the price? I would be willing to, but I don’t have to. You’ll pay about $100-$150 more for an equivalent Trijicon product. That’s not much more at all in the big picture.
@TheRange7Ай бұрын
Rich, I hate to break it to you, Holosun is miles ahead of Trijicon in technology. Furthermore, don't kid yourself a fair amount of what's on the inside of a Trijicon RMR comes from overseas. Google it. Most of all, buy what you like and can afford, but don't knock Holosun. Sans government sales I'm 99% sure Holsun outsells Trijicon by a ton.
@STG3Stang8 ай бұрын
Shooting straight down a road??? Absolutely horrendously dangerous. You need some training ASAP.
@ADudeAndSomeGuns8 ай бұрын
Some say I’m a wild man!
@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVEN8 ай бұрын
I don't think you realize that the "road" isn't a normal road it looks like it's an drive thru shooting course of some sort. So there is no traffic except one way and even then it's on his or someone he knows property... And it's intentionally setup that way. Check out Tier 1 Citizen as another example. He's got an overland vechile course or something similar to this
@ADudeAndSomeGuns8 ай бұрын
@@AN_APPEAL_2_HEAVEN yeah, it’s a private range, that “road” is dirt path to targets down range.