Holy Communion

[@nathanielaiko8756]

On February 2nd 2023, the priest in this video, Fr. Paul Thomas, was consecrated as Bishop of Oswestry. I pray the Lord keep him close to the faith and may he preach and minister according to God's word.

[@bwilliamleo7872]

⁠@b-a-boonVicar is a specific office or position in the church (similar to a rector, curate, dean, canon, archdeacon, archbishop etc), who is as a representative of the Diocesan Bishop to take care of a certain parish within his diocese; priest or prysbyter is one of the threefold holy orders of the ministry in the Anglican Church. Positions ain't Orders, don't mix them up!

[@Michael_Chandler_Keaton]

Man this guy has the greatest priest voice in the history of priest voices.

[@bunberrier]

No doubt

[@paulungureanu937]

I am an Eastern Orthodox Christian. It's the first time in my life I'm hearing and being exposed to this, Western Anglican Eucharist. It's a pleasure discovering a different, English-specific, manner of worshipping our common God. Best wishes from Romanian brethren into Christ.

[@maybesometime3713]

Paul Ungureanu Hello, dear brother in Christ! Have you ever heard about the Mass of Saint Tikhon of Moscow? This is a rite of the Holy Liturgy taken from the Anglican Book of Common Prayer and changed specially for Orthodox usage. Now it is used by all Western Rite Orthodox parishes.

[@gthirane]

This heretics don't have The Eucharist, The Saint Sacrifice of the Mass, they don't have apostolic succession.

[@paulungureanu937]

@@gthirane I wouldn't use this term towards other fellow Christians. I find it counterproductive and unnecessary. I do admit that Anglicans are even more different than us, Orthodoxes, compared to you guys, Catholics. But all the elements you mentioned are items of established dogma and doctrine. Our Lord, Jesus Christ, didn't stipulate in details any of the services, any apostolic succession etc. I think we should unite and stay true to the blessed meaning of our Lord's words and actions, more than towards man-made dogma. Even you guys have items which we, Orthodoxes, find reprehensible: the papal primacy (?) and infallibility, the idea of Purgatory (?, based on what teaching of our Lord?), the gregorian calendar ''reform'', The Filioque clause. You've had some really terrible practices, maybe this explains why the Church of England and other Protestants appeared? I don't think they appeared out of a sudden. Things which we haven't experienced in the East. The shameful behaviour of Catholica Crusaders in sacking Orthodox Constantinople ... 1203, shall I continue? We in the East, we tried to stay true to the initial Message and Mission of Our Christ, true and one Resurrected by the Father from the dead. Against all odds, against all Turks, against all ill thoughts. I think we should understand each other, even the Church of England, which so far away from my Christianity. I'm more closer to you than to Anglicans. Let's still keep an open heart, shall we? Won't hurt anyone...my opinion. Christ has risen !

[@katherinecross8059]

@@paulungureanu937 I had to leave the Church of england in 1995 because of errors increasing.

[@paulcaswell2813]

@@gthirane The Apostolic Succession is alive and well in the CofE.

[@thinkforyourself2109]

I have played this for my friend many times and he follows along with it every step of the way with great attention and recites along with it from memory. He is a 91-year-old Anglican priest. This service has given him great consolation as he faces the trials and tribulations of old age, including the deaths of loved ones. Thank you for posting it.

[@aaront9732]

Beautiful. The timeless language of the Prayer Book a tonic for the soul.

[@Powerranger-le4up]

Aaron T The medicine of immortality.

[@crespojosef]

I was wondering, does anybody know what church this? I enjoyed it so much.

[@Александр-н5з5ъ]

AMP Videos The bastard church of Henry VIII. You will find no salvation here

[@ringeradam4575]

John, you seem to be on a bit of a ranting spree in this video's comment section. I'd suggest you stop; You'll not change any one of us, and you're only making yourself out to be a tit.

[@mosesking2923]

Timeless??? LOLOLOL. It’s barely 400 years old. If you want a timeless liturgy, go to a Catholic Tridentine Mass.

[@musiquelover2202]

This service has such beauty and depth and is conducted with authority and dignity by the priest. With the words and form of the Book of Common Prayer, there is a sense of connection with the past. In spite of a few failings, the Church of England is a national treasure, one that should be nurtured spiritually and materially in the hearts of all those that appreciate beautiful and respectful worship of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[@ernestbowen4054]

Anglicanism, England’s gift to the world.❤️

[@Александр-н5з5ъ]

Ernest Bowen Sadly not. Anglicanism saves no one

[@ringeradam4575]

Then which church does, John?

[@nancyhoughton7605]

@@Александр-н5з5ъ You are right, Christ alone saves, Anglicanism is only one the means by which he saves.

[@misternewoutlook5437]

@@ernestbowen4054 It truly is. Reverence and respect. Above all order, as the apostles decreed.

[@benaim7925]

Hello fellow brethren in Christ! I'm from the Catholic church. May all Christians be one someday.

[@sameash3153]

We will be, in heaven

[@gpersonal120]

As an altar boy 10 years year old in the late 60s I had the privilege of being present at the at holy communion.. I watch this in the veil of tears and blessings… beautiful..I was confirmed into the Anglican Church at the age of 11. Beautiful service beautiful words meaningful and sacred.

[@randygrayson9015]

Truly, heaven touches earth during this worship, and in this sacred space! If you don't hear, see, smell, touch and taste Christ in this heavenly banquet, you are not a regenerate soul. Amen!

[@corylittrell2109]

As an Episcopal I really wish mass was still like this in the US

[@sameash3153]

Certain churches you can find this, but you have to be lucky to live near the cathedral of your diocese, where this style survives, and which the surrounding churches are more likely to emulate than the churches further out

[@richardsaintjohn8391]

​@@sameash3153St. John's in Detroit. Televised on KZbin every day.

[@michalsmrha1661]

I'm Roman Catholic and I would like to attend on your service. It's majestic. Remember, our ancestors hadn't such problems as we have now. More people in church means better society.

[@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus]

No, stay with the Catholic Church. And as a Catholic, your bound by Confirmation to stay true to the faith. Anyway, You'll hardly find the service shown above offered like this anymore.

[@alhilford2345]

If you are Catholic it would be a sin for you to actively partake in this service. You would be venerating a piece of bread.

[@kaiserdamasus1978]

We are not to attend heretical, non-Catholic gatherings. We stay with the one true Church.

[@michalsmrha1661]

@@kaiserdamasus1978 As far as I know, we can observe but can't take corpus christi. Or I can't even spend my time among people who have different liturgy, but same god? I think that stay in even anglican church, is better than watching silly TV.

[@dwightschrute900]

@@michalsmrha1661 You can attend, but cannot receive the eucharist. God call us to have ecumenical dialogue.

[@michaeldwyer663]

I wish this was still the norm everywhere!

[@archbishopnicholasacresocr429]

I LOVE THIS RITE.

[@b.r.holmes6365]

Help make it so!

[@RezaChity-G]

I wish you guys would be Catholics! It would be much easier though if this truly were the norm, so yes, I do support your statement as well.

[@phyllisgrellman4741]

Dr.Who1980 Productions How I miss my church!

[@thomasmichael559]

Its still the norm in the Church of England. Most Anglican churches have 8am Holy Communion services, using the Book of Common Prayer.

[@izzyplant8428]

The most uplifting communion service, truly celebrating the Biblical principles of salvation and God's grace and mercy extended to sinners through Christ Jesus.

[@roninsavage4290]

Such beautiful language, such dignity and reverence.

[@TheAnish01]

I shall like to attend this Church service when I visit England. May God bless.

[@patbryan3372]

Our churches are closed during the Covid-19 crisis, and I have found it a great comfort to follow along with this service, reciting the responses, and hearing the familiar words.

[@juanpaolojanolino8412]

As a Roman Catholic, I find this service more Catholic than the present Roman Catholic rite. Very reverent.

[@johnking5174]

It is. The traditional language is now less heard in the Church of England

[@michaelj5168]

Then try going to a more conservative church. Or a traditional Mass

[@tonyhaywood-biles4949]

A refreshing service away from modernisation trends - this is historical and with depth thank you

[@charynfrances294]

Thank you for posting this service. I was blessed listening to it.

[@brucesavage9929]

I am so moved by this video that I must add to my previous comment. Such reverence and respect for the communion rite. We need far more of this.

[@joshuabetancourt2000]

This Protestant liturgy is more reverent then many novus ordo Masses. Impressive.

[@johnking5174]

Is the Novus Ordo Mass the modern rite in the Roman Catholic Church?

[@violinstar5948]

John King Yes it is. It’s watered down liturgy

[@jean-paul7251]

Absolutely agree Joshua....novus ordo mass is utter trash compared to this

[@alhilford2345]

Serious Catholics go to the Latin Mass, when we're able to find one, that is!

[@briandelaney9710]

Cranmer wouldn’t approve of the chasuble ;)

[@Komnenos1234]

The silence at 10:05 onward makes you realise how noisy life is most of the time and what a relief it is to get free of it for a moment.

[@phyllisgrellman4741]

I am an Episcopalian American. This is the service I grew up practicing every Sunday, except we prayed for the President. The Episcopal Church is dead here; as far as, I’m concerned. Thank you for giving me my church back. Please post more!

[@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus]

Good points!

[@uriah777]

I might join an Episcopalian church in the future but I would like to fine a good church. Episcopalian church is a minority sect of christianity today

[@vincentcoppola9832]

Yes it is - but traditional Anglicanism is alive and well in the continuing Anglican churches. There is probably an ACNA parish near you. God Bless-

[@adamm2693]

The ACNA?! 😂 I see nothing of Christ's love there. . .

[@phyllisgrellman4741]

To ever said they seee nothing of God’s love in the comments & laughed two words: seek help

[@michaelbrembs9443]

Absolutely Beautiful! To the Praise and Glory of God!

[@BuckDanny2314]

It's amazing the eucharistic faith of these people, even though they are not catholics. Indeed, many catholics do not show such respect towards the Eucharist.

[@anselman3156]

BuckDanny, They would understand themselves to be members of the Catholic and Apostolic Church, in the historic succession and continuity with the ancient Church, and partakers of the Body and Blood of our Lord Jesus in the communion.

[@BuckDanny2314]

Yes. I would not however agree with that position, as a Roman Catholic.

[@RezaChity-G]

@@BuckDanny2314 Something else we agree on!

[@sameash3153]

​@@BuckDanny2314 Our bishops were consecrated in England before even the western schism of the Catholic church. It doesn't really matter whether the pope agrees or disagrees with our succession, he can't change our history.

[@philipdouglas5911]

@@anselman3156 Catholic has to be with a small c otherwise it means belonging to the Bishop of Rome. A small c means universal and that us what us Anglicans believe that we belong to. Paul Thomas is using the liturgy of the 1662 prayer book which although is still the official payer book has largely dropped out of favour and has pretty well being replaced by that found in Common Worship. Both of our liturgies are pretty well identical with the odd variation in order and wording. Officially there is no transubstantiation as this was ruled out in the articles of religion which outline Anglican doctrine. However Paul is Forward in Faith which means he is more Catholic than many Roman parishes both in doctrine and practice. Forward in Faith also refuse to recognise the ministry of women. There is one difference though and that is the concept of an open table where all are invited to receive. Have recently been to a service that he presided at during our clergy conference and it was striking how Catholic he was.

[@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963]

Very nice Service ! So simple, so scriptural !

[@howardhodder6487]

I grew up on this - it warms my heart to hear such familiar words. Surprised that I can still remember the whole rite.

[@johnking5174]

Do you think it is wrong to have the common worship (alternative) book? I think both are good, but the 1662 BCP is supreme.

[@howardhodder6487]

I am familiar with and love them both.

[@overlandkltolondon]

I grew up with this but traditional faith and worship have been purposefully driven out of the Anglican churches over my lifetime. As a young man, I put myself forward for selection for ordination, but I was considered too conservative at that time. I have since been received into the Orthodox Church.

[@albertocarnicero]

I am roman catholic and I have found this service very nice and respectable. The only thing is that I had heard somewhere that Anglican himns were magnificent. And I have missed the himns in this worship. Thank you very much from Spain.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

Yes the hymms are good, they can be added in to several parts of the service. It's less common for hymms to be part of the prayerbook service snowadays, because the book of common prayer 1662, while still the authorative liturgy, isn't generally used as the "main" Sunday mass anymore, which is a tragedy but at least people still use the prayerbook and we still have the words

[@AmericansAlwaysFree]

@@internetenjoyer1044 at least you all still use your historical and traditional service, the Catholic Church has all but eliminated it’s traditional and in my view true mass entirely

[@richardsaintjohn8391]

Low Mass

[@PraisingWithFriends]

People have forgotten the meaning of the word “sanctuary.” This was beautiful.

[@omnius28]

I go to Christ Cathedral in Ottawa Canada, where they use the BCP for some lunchtime Holy Eucharist. This is my FAVOURITE service. I try not to miss them. God Bless!

[@r.mercado9737]

Absolutely beautifully rich! The Lord be with your heart! Pax Christi

[@jayharding4773]

Now the Right Reverend Bishop of Oswestry

[@taylorjones8216]

Absolutely beautiful! May God bless you all!

[@raismith4651]

I have sinned many times in my life, I pray May Pastor help pray for me. Thank you Jesus. Amen.

[@jeromeostlund5725]

Lovely service God Bless. Asking for prayers for my famlies lack of faith.

[@ringeradam4575]

Form One weekday Communions are still used in many larger-town parishes in Northern Ireland. My own college is across from the parish church, and on Wednesdays I often go in for the first part of the service (sadly since my Wednesday teacher is quite strict, I can only stay for 15 minutes . _.)

[@timothy9434]

BrickyBoy Has the C of I gone over to genuflexions and high vestments? When I was in Ireland the Church was strictly Low Church. The same service as in this video but with no Roman "trimmings". The ministers wore only a cassock, white alb and their priestly stole. Has Ireland changed?

[@ringeradam4575]

Apart from a few select parishes, no, however, most parishes in the Church of Ireland often have BCP services such as this

[@ringeradam4575]

Plus there's a couple places in Ireland that's still safe from all that; St. Bartholomew's, Dublin St. John's, Sandymount St. George's, Belfast and my wee chapel I'm making, which is High Church (It don't look like much in this picture but it's about to get the walls on it! cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463824160049856513/464521350971916289/36694729_1192960224179049_6410156689764384768_n.jpg )

[@RezaChity-G]

@@ringeradam4575 Good luck!

[@benjaminholmes2318]

Absolutely uplifting language, a "sacred vernacular".

[@RezaChity-G]

Prayerbook english is beautiful.

[@SarumChoirmaster]

My dream is that if ever GOD ordains that I should come into great wealth, I would raise up in America, a great church, men's monastery, choir school for boys, hostile for the weary and ill, homeless and broken hearted, all seeking GOD, His Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit. And therein, at this place, would be used the 1928 Prayer Book and the American Anglican Altar Missal. Also, daily Sung Morning Prayer, Holy Eucharist and Choral Evensong. The Bible would be studied daily, manners, etiquette and Christian morality alongside of academics.

[@ringeradam4575]

That's good and all but you need some Change-ringing bells to make the whole vision come together.

[@anselman3156]

A noble dream, from a good Christian heart. God bless you.

[@stupidcakeboy]

Amen

[@twotetah]

Sounds great.

[@IsmailBae-l9h]

God bless you

[@sylvianazareth908]

Thanks be to God Amen Alleluia who can be healed by the blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen Alleluia. Love in Christ from Jesus and Sylvia Nazareth.

[@JohnWilliams-vt3ym]

Still around in many Reformed Episcopal Churches, Holy Trinity Anglican in St. Louis, MO is one of them. We use the 1662. REC uses 1662 as standard, 1928 as an alternative.

[@randygrayson9015]

The Chapel of the Cross in Dallas Tx. Reformed Episcopal 1928 prayer book.........stumbled across this gem 6 weeks ago!

[@twotetah]

The Reformed Episcopal Church is a solid, good church.

[@christianebuka9625]

Still watching till 2021 God bless the world 🌎

[@theoBaba773]

Amen

[@alistairbarter1297]

The reverence is in marked comparison with so much of what one experiences to-day.

[@darinwade1973]

"love the rector reciting the ten commandments its the standard for the world"

[@DannyEastVillage]

wonderfully rich, clean and dignified. But I have to say that it undoubtedly takes an Anglo-catholic to make a service like this really work. I'm afraid that low church clergy don't typically cultivate this type of reverence for sacramental worship

[@SLACKPLAN9]

The part where they bow when mentioning the Virgin Mary, as when the RCs genuflect at that point as well, is a bow to the 3rd Ecumenical Council (See "Theotokos")

[@ArmenNazarbekyan]

I think it’s rather about the Incarnation of Christ

[@TheJoeman11]

We Catholics kneel to God. But we honour the Blessed Virgin Mary.

[@jprt1990]

Amen Khatchatourian is right, the "low bow" is in response to the words "and was made man" and it references the Incarnation. But traditionally you would bow also at the name of Mary, the three persons of the Trinity (when said together), and, of course, at the name of Jesus.

[@jprt1990]

A smaller bow that is; the low bow is reserved for that one part of the creed.

[@marcuytdewilgen2305]

I'm Roman Catholic, but for I'm Christian...this was beautiful mass. I enjoyed it... for me every religion community that believe in One God in three in Tree Persons ' The Holy Trinity ' or Lord Jesus Christ dead on cross and minimum accept two sacrament can said 'im Christian' . I don't like the discussion from christian theologically about dots and comma's. We Christians are one group the community of or Lord and. God ...the Father The Son and The Holly Spirit..Amen. (sorry for my English, I hope you understand me opinion's)

[@ConnorPatrickNolan003]

Yes but there is one true Christian faith

[@leinadster]

It’s more reverent indeed than the Mass at the average parish. Also, there was a revolt when the BCP was imposed. The common people were struck with the change of name from Mass to “service of Holy Communion”.

[@aleksanderpaczoski]

Good comment

[@aleksanderpaczoski]

Best comment ever

[@benaim7925]

This reminds me of the noon mass in our side chapel in the Cathedral near me. So quiet and very reverent.

[@drewmiller2613]

Even though I'm not Catholic (I'm a Lutheran specifically an evangelical Lutheran) I would have no problem and actually be excited to worship at this church

[@ridethetiger7669]

It’s Anglican

[@catrionam.mackirnan6646]

You'd be welcome, and would probably feel comfortable, at any parish of one of the more Scripturally based, evangelically inclined Anglican groups which have been obliged to leave TECUSA or the C of E, or are present in America (or England) as missions from our conservative African brethren. The Reformed Episcopal Church (in the USA) and the Free Church of England (in England) come to mind.

[@l21n18]

@@catrionam.mackirnan6646 what’s. That mean?

[@ghughesarch]

@@l21n18 it means she doesn't like gays.

[@adamm2693]

Catriona I don't believe "Evangelical Lutheran" means "American Evangelical", so I'd highly suggest not joining schismatics. The service here is High Church, I assume that's part of the attraction!

[@adamm2693]

Thank yous! Many a time I come back to this wonderful service. Having moved to Iowa USA from Northern Ireland, greatly miss the Form I every Wednesday morning at our parish. The Episcopal church here only does Rite II modern, every single Sunday with no other service, that's OK but its lovely to come back and witness the good old way!!

[@kmsmith1942]

I think the stained glass windows are beautiful.

[@roblewis5044]

Glory to God in the highest

[@taylorjones8216]

Robert Lewis Amen!

[@faithfulforever6331]

What a beautiful church!

[@maricelpascua9996]

Who unlikes this😢😢😢 do u guys even love god

[@adamm2693]

I'm afraid supremacist Catholics have a real hang-up about other denominations "stealing" their Eucharist...

[@theshootist9290]

I love the Church of England

[@Wallnaut]

You love a good joke?

[@rayfon433]

@@Wallnaut wonder why you took time out your day to watch this video

[@lesliekistanministry191]

I just love these videos and hope to be able to own a book with prayers said in ancient times.

[@richardsaintjohn8391]

Amazon. The International Common Prayer. 1668. About 20 dollars.

[@HughElvisCrumlish]

I like him, his good and dedicated.

[@johnking5174]

Compare this to the awful modern rubbish that passes by for a modern day Roman Catholic Mass, this service excels above that. Wonderful Anglican liturgy from the truly beautiful Book of Common Prayer.

[@Александр-н5з5ъ]

John King What modern rubbish in Holy Mother Church?

[@ringeradam4575]

John Smythe the form of the Mass following the Second Vatican Council.

[@thereisnosalvationoutsidet3246]

Latin mass! Divine liturgy! Quarbono and Anglican Ordinaraite mass!

[@ringeradam4575]

Yeah, for the lucky 1% who live near a place offering such things

[@Александр-н5з5ъ]

Ringer Adam it appears you plucked that figure out of your arse

[@e.j.thomas9994]

This is just as I remember it, from when I was 8 years old.(I'm now 50.)

[@ernestbowen4054]

Perfection

[@Ianjcarroll]

Excellent service.

[@ScottKnitter]

Here's the secret phrase for those following along at home: "And was incarnate by the Holy Ghost, of the Virgin Mary, and was made man." :)

[@peterbaxter2913]

Curious. I came upon this quite by chance, and though I live many miles away I find it to have been filmed in the church where my 2xgreat grandparents were married in 1856.

[@brucesavage9929]

Such beautiful and inspiring language.

[@philhoward179]

Beautiful ! So reverent!

[@edwardfranks5215]

Note that the sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving is said after Communion rather than during the prayer of consecration where it had been for 1400 years. Even so the Prayer of Oblation is it called clearly connects the offering at this position with the Consecration Prayer. By the way this video shows what Queen Elizabeth wanted the new Protestant Holy Communion service to look like - a Mass but it didn't work out for 300 years until the Ritualists started to remake the C of E in a Catholic fashion as much as they could. The Evangelical wing is still fighting the battles of the 16th century but the vast majority of Anglicans have left them in the dust.

[@bwilliamleo7872]

The Laudians made a lots of efforts to push back the Prayer of Oblation as it was in 1549 rite, even did it at some places under their charge like St Paul's Cathedral in early 17th. But they were finally failed to restore the position of this prayer in 1662 prayer book revision, what they achieved was only to let the remaining consecrated elements stay on the Table until the end of the service. It less or more allows the Elements to be presented as a “sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving”, together with "ourselves" who have duly received the sacrament by their mouths.

[@bwilliamleo7872]

And the words "accept this our alms and oblation" was inserted in the post offertory intercession prayer in 1662 Communion office, although the meaning of it was made in ambiguity. The Laudians tried to restore some traditional minds by using ambiguous languages and rubrics, like what Cranmer did in the 1549 office (but obviously toward the opposite direction).

[@bwilliamleo7872]

The most notable restoration of the sacrificial languages in Anglican Liturgy was made by Non juriors. Their 1718 office made a very clear offertory prayer with explicit sacrificial words, and replaced all "Lord's Table" to be "Altar" in rubrics, and directly borrowed many parts from Anaphora of St James to form its Eucharistic prayer.

[@George_1Cross]

PRAISE THE "LORD" TO EVERYONE.

[@democraticpatriot2657]

As one raised with the American 1928 BCP, this was a heady dose of nostalgia for what was beautiful and dignified. I must say that the 1662 rite seems somewhat jumbled and illogical in comparison with ECUSA 1928. Also no epiclesis in the eucharistic prayer.

[@m.anetzonebodhan7550]

greetings I am marri venkata ratnam stepped and faith in His name but subjected to severe temptaions and bad consequesces through some mis creant vatada family pl pray t make challeges

[@jackmccormick5242]

Beautiful. However, I would have thought the Server ought to have read the Epistle from the South End of the Holy Communion Table, beside the ‘Epistle Candle’, especially given the Celebrant read the Holy Gospel from the North End.

[@magneticweasel1960]

As an orthodox christian, it’s very nice to see the similarities in some parts of the liturgy. i believe our western rite is based off the anglican book of common prayers. however, i don’t understand why they would reject the original doctrine of the church but keep a similar liturgy

[@sameash3153]

Henry didn't really reject the doctrine of the church, though. Henry defended the seven sacraments, transubstantiation, the episcopacy, apostolic succession, and so on. It was his son that sided with the protestants. Then Mary reverted everything back to catholicism. Then Elizabeth, to keep the peace, ended up establishing our modern day anglicanism, which is a compromise between the English catholics and the various protestant sympathizers. The Anglican church has become very partisan, with groups that emphasize the catholic origins and groups that emphasize the reformation, the two don't get along at all, but somehow exist side by side.

[@edwardfranks5215]

Very lovely and reverent, but where is the rest of the prayer of consecration after the Words of Institution? you can find it in the Prayer of Oblation after they make their communions. However, the traditional place is after the W of I as it had been been for 1400 years. Cranmer was pressured into removing any notion of the sacrifice of the Mass - i.e. the priest and congregation offering themselves during the prayer of consecration to after communion in the optional prayer of oblation. The Scottish Episcopalians restored it in the 1764 Rite, the American Episcopalians in 1789 and the C of E in the 1928 Prayer Book. Only a few holdouts want to continue with the deformation of the liturgy wrought by Cranmer who knew full well that the eucharist from the mid-second century had been regarded as the Church's offering.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

Well, the Anglican reformers certainly reacted very strongly to the bad medieval notion that Jesus was resacrificed every Sunday, and Anglicanism places less emphasis on the sacraficial nature of the Eucharist, but the sacraficial nature of the mass is nowhere denied.

[@edwardfranks5215]

@@internetenjoyer1044 The Romans did not and do not believe Jesus is re-sacrificed at every mass since no one has every taught this: rather the priest offers him to the Father in a sacrament. We can offer Christ liturgically as long as it understood our eucharists are made one with Jesus eternal sacrifice once made!! in him and with him in the unity of the holy spirit. The whole service is offering or sacrifice. Jesus is sacrificed no more. He intercedes for us. In the presence of Christ our offerings, our good works, our prayers and praises and our lives are acceptable when offered in union with Christ.

[@missjedi88]

Thank you

[@carmelitagood3392]

I love the traditional Episcopal church without the current changes. I would like to know how I can tell the difference now.

[@johnking5174]

What current changes do you have?

[@adamm2693]

you mean like the new prayer book? Or the progressive stuff?

[@AZVIDE0Z]

Refreshing to see the Eucharist celebrated Ad Orientem in an Anglican church. I would like to see how North End Celebration is conducted though.

[@prudencedailey4144]

We have a video for that, too! Please check out the other videos on our channel...

[@AZVIDE0Z]

@@prudencedailey4144 Thank you! :)

[@gohatinas]

I'm Roman Catholic, but as I'm Christian…this was a beautiful mass. I enjoyed it… for me, every religious community that believes in One God in three in Tree Persons 'The Holy Trinity our Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross and minimum accept two sacraments can say 'I'm Christian'. Furthermore, I don't like the discussion from Christian theologically about dots and commas. We Christians are one group, the community of or Lord. God …the Father The Son and The Holy Spirit… Amen. (please excuse my English, I hope you understand my opinions?)

[@johnking5174]

Technically we do not consider Mass is the correct term. We use Holy Communion or The Eucharist as the terms. As we disagree with the roman rite over the sacrifice of the Mass.

[@michaelj5168]

@@johnking5174and THAT makes it all foam…and no beer!!

[@gthirane]

Matthew XVI- Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Queen or King of England son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I tell you that you are Queen or King of England, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[d] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[e] loosed in heaven.”

[@RezaChity-G]

Haha!

[@edwardfranks5215]

This is Eucharist using the 1662 Prayer Book, a close version of the PBs of 1552 and 1559, and 1604. What's missing is the rest of the consecration prayer after the Words of the Institution which appears in the 1549 Book but without the critical words "which we now offer unto thee," after make and celebrate with these they holy gifts... and after the memorial they Son has willeth us to make. For 1400 years the Eucharist was doctrinally a sacrifice to God using the gift provided by God, namely, the sacrifice of Christ in a sacramental form effected by the Divine Will thru the ministry of the priest at the consecration. The congregation offered themselves to God through the sacrament. Cranmer removed it although he knew the tradition. He didn't want an oblation of a material sacrifice - so the sacrifice was reduced to prayers, sentiments and feelings rather than offering oneself in union with Christ at this point in the service. Instead the congregation offers themselves AFTER taking communion. The Scottish Prayer Books of the 18th century restore the traditional elements in the prayer. The American Church did so in 1789 and the English Church in 1929 bringing Anglicanism back to the mainstream of Catholic and Orthodox liturgy though possessing some Calvinist ideas such as these gifts may be for us rather than become for us the Body and Blood of Christ This undid Cranmer, but some people persist in using a liturgy that is not the norm of Church doctrine and practice though very devotional. But at least the old PB makes clear that one can believe in the Real Presence or real spiritually (like St. John of Damascus the bread and wine are symbols of a spiritual reality. Both are old interpretations from the Early Church and Catholic.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

There is a change in the Sacraficial language, but you're over stating it when you say "Cranmer removed it although he knew the tradition. He didn't want an oblation of a material sacrifice - so the sacrifice was reduced to prayers, sentiments and feelings rather than offering oneself in union with Christ at this point in the service.". We are meant to sacrifice ourselves to be in union with God, for the rite says "And here we offer and present unto thee, O Lord, our selves, our souls and bodies, to be a reasonable, holy, and living sacrifice unto thee; humbly beseeching thee that we, and all others who shall be partakers of this Holy Communion, may worthily receive the most precious Body and Blood of thy Son Jesus Christ, be filled with thy grace and heavenly benediction, and made one body with him, that he may dwell in us, and we in him. And although we are unworthy, through our manifold sins, to offer unto thee any sacrifice, yet we beseech thee to accept this our bounden duty and service, not weighing our merits, but pardoning our offenses, through Jesus Christ our Lord". The difference between the Roman and Anglican view is that rather than Jesus' sacrifice being offered once and for all to be offer up repeatedly to the Father for it's benefits to be transfered, the one oblation of Christ is offered once and for all, re-presented on the alter by the priest, and through our sacrifice of alms, repentence, prayers, worship and sacrifice of our future sinful desires, we prepare ourselves to partake of Christ's body and blood and recieve the spiritual benefits without condemnation. So the process is different; offering Jesus to God as a sacrifice, a process made possible by His one sacrifice and the sacrifice of repentence needed to partake in it vs offering ourselves as a sacrfice to partake in His sacrifice which stands in for our own unworthy sacrifices so we attain the merits of His sacrifice. To be honest, these differences, in isolation to how they fit into the larger protestant vs roman systems, seem pretty superficial to me.

[@RNRMedia1]

While this is all excellent, I can't help but notice that the Missal is on the Gospel side of the altar at the beginning when it should be on the Epistle side.

[@archbishopnicholasacresocr429]

TRUE

[@Psalm144.1]

What is a Missal?

[@archbishopnicholasacresocr429]

@@Psalm144.1 Its a book used by priest or bishop On the altar

[@RezaChity-G]

@@archbishopnicholasacresocr429 Thank you.

[@honeymeliiisupergirlkarabr881]

Thabkyiu lord 🙏 the angels moon goddess Melissa aka Cleopatra

[@bluewillow4985]

I just want to say thank you for such a simply beautiful Holy Communion service. Can you recommend how I could see more like this that follow the calendar? Would so enjoy as I live in a remote are that has no church that uses 1928 BCP.

[@prudencedailey4144]

Thank you! I wish I had an answer to your question; but if those resources were out there, we might not have had to do this. This service was professionally filmed three times from different angles, and then professionally edited: this kind of production costs thousands and, while I wish we could do more like this, it's not really feasible. It would be great, if someone who has lovely, dignified BCP services could just film their regular Sunday worship and put it on KZbin, but alas I don't know of anything like that as yet.

[@jcastano]

Rite I is very close to the 1928.

[@RezaChity-G]

@@jcastano I would prefer the full authentic 1928 to be honest, the new stuff just seems strange.

[@catrionam.mackirnan6646]

@@jcastano Well, sort of.

[@Christabbaword]

Mark 9:25 New International Version (NIV) 25 When Jesus saw that a crowd was running to the scene, he rebuked the impure spirit. “You deaf and mute spirit,” he said, “I command you, come out of him and never enter him again.” Luke 19:27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"

[@ringeradam4575]

Hmm?

[@Christabbaword]

Ringer Adam 1 Corinthians 15:45 New International Version (NIV) 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”[a]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

[@williamtoddgriffin8926]

Play at .75 and it's more like the I am accustomed.

[@sallyannedavies7742]

I have not seen the whole video yet, but noticed he said the Lord’s Prayer Differently ? This must be a shortened version.

[@alhilford2345]

No. This is correct. Protestants added the "For thine is..." to the words in the Bible.

[@bwilliamleo7872]

The "For thine is..." part is called doxology, it is the addition to the Lord's Prayer. You can find both versions in the Book of Common Prayer.

[@catrionam.mackirnan6646]

My understanding is that the shortened version, without the doxology, is used when the prayer is repeated in a penitential context. At the beginning of Holy Communion, it would be attached to the penitential rite, thus is shortened. Later on in the service, it is used after the reception of the Eucharist, and there the doxology is included.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

@@alhilford2345 lol no they didnt., that addition is extremely old, it's found in the Didache even

[@jamesschofield9963]

Very good

[@British_loyalist]

Beautiful

[@doristheslug9609]

The English equivalent of the Tridentine mass; but undoubtably better.

[@RezaChity-G]

No.

[@doristheslug9609]

When

[@doristheslug9609]

Well if you don't agree then you can continue to do so in silence

[@Laguero]

If you want to see an Anglican service that is even closer to the Tridentine, check out the Sarum Rite.

[@michaelj5168]

Not so

[@edwardfranks5215]

C of E Mass per the thinking of 1662 grounded in 1559 Book of Common Prayer.

[@zmoxon22]

Evangelicalism’s best ever contribution to English Christianity

[@davidwatson6377]

Edifying but why "Spirit" in the Blessing rather than "Ghost"?

[@prudencedailey4144]

Verbal slip--simple as that!

[@PraisingWithFriends]

Does it matter? Asking in ignorance.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

@@PraisingWithFriends not really, except English has two words for spirit: the Germanic, Ghost (not speicifcally about dead humans historically, as evidenced for how Holy Ghost became the name for the 3rd Person) and the Latinate, Spirit. Historically, the English have tended to use the Germanic term, and it's just what the prayerbook says. But using the term Spirit has no theological problems whatsoever; it's a compelte synonym, it's just not the one the prayerbook uses.

[@jasonattwood6289]

If the only way to receive the Eucharist is in the hands, who is the priest or the faithful to blame? If the faithful have no other choice because if he refuses to receive the Eucharist in his hands he will have to give up receiving the Eucharist. Regarding communion, the law of the church is that communion should be received in the mouth and kneeling. But few still do it like this. Look for Memorial domini, Mysterium Fidea, and Acti Apostolicae Sedis.

[@alhilford2345]

This is a Protestant church, so it is just bread and wine, not the Real Presence.

[@internetenjoyer1044]

@@alhilford2345 no its the real presence, just not in a carnal, superstitious manner. even on Roman doctrine, articulated by Aquinas not as populary understood, Jesus is not spatially in the bread becuase the object there is purely accidents, and the substance of Christ does take on accidental properties like location. also the Roman church does in the hand nw as the norm, and recently tlm was, essentially, banned, so u gotta get used to in the hand

[@giftfarisia4361]

What's the name of the prayer they recited here while kneeling? 14:22 Anyone can give me the reference? I'll really appreciate it.

[@Project-yo4nf]

The general confession.

[@robertzacharovsky2505]

I wonder if this type of vestments was worn with 1662 BCP. Can anybody answer?

[@bwilliamleo7872]

1662 BCP orders "And here is to be noted, that such Ornaments...of the Ministers thereof...shall be retained, and be in use, as were in this Church of England...in the 2nd Year of the Reign of King Edward the 6th."; That was to say, the same as 1549 BCP, it was so ordered: "Upon the day and at the time appointed for the ministration of the holy Communion, the Priest that shall execute the holy ministry, shall put upon him the vesture appointed for that ministration, that is to say: a white Albe plain, with a vestment or Cope". In the time past, chasuable was commonly referred as "vestment".

[@robertzacharovsky2505]

@@bwilliamleo7872 Thank you very much!

[@robertzacharovsky2505]

@@bwilliamleo7872 Thank you very much for your answer!

[@rachie_sherlock]

Beautiful Xx

[@chironmentor]

Fr. William Ralston was a founder of the Prayer Book Society and published a periodical called "The Mandate," in an attempt to preserve the 1928 Book of Common Prayer, which includes the Eucharist, the greatest service of worship, very much like th R.C. and in Anglican tradition. Fr. Ralston taught moral theology before being called to be the rector of St. Johns Episcopal Church in Savannah, Georgia.

[@Александр-н5з5ъ]

chironmentor Mr William. He isn’t a priest.

[@RezaChity-G]

@@Александр-н5з5ъ Hello. I am assuming you are an Orthodox Christian? Please do correct me if I am wrong.

[@Александр-н5з5ъ]

Dr.Who1980 Productions I’m Catholic

[@markcooke729]

Just beautiful. Which church was this service held in?

[@prudencedailey4144]

St James', Sussex Gardens (in Paddington, London). The celebrant is the Revd Paul Thomas, Vicar of St James'.

[@markcooke729]

@@prudencedailey4144 Thank you for that!

[@prudencedailey4144]

@@markcooke729 :-)

[@crespojosef]

My brothers and sisters, does anybody know what church this is?

[@prudencedailey4144]

St James', Sussex Gardens (Paddington, London). The celebrant is the Revd Paul Thomas, Vicar of St James'.

[@run4cmt]

@@prudencedailey4144 Wonderful service. Beautiful church. I must visit next time I am in London!

[@prudencedailey4144]

@@run4cmt Sadly, I don't think their regular services are quite like this. This is a special training video produced by the Prayer Book Society.

[@Beau74]

The layout/floorplan of Anglican churches is truly loathsome.

[@johnking5174]

Most Anglican churches were built for Roman Catholic worship and are centuries old. So the design is actually either from that form for the Anglicans adopted it. What is it you don't like about the layout of the sanctuary?

[@s.albans2875]

They are all built following the ancient layout, with a distinctive long chancel, rather than those altered by the post-Trent Romish innovations.

[@Beau74]

@@s.albans2875 Yes, and it's terrible.

[@Beau74]

@@johnking5174 Are you kidding? Just look at it. Terrible.

[@Alexander_Fuscinianus]

Does anglican priests realy served the holy communion versus Deum?

[@prudencedailey4144]

Yes, quite often (especially where the BCP is used). It's not the most usual way it's done in the C of E, but it's fairly common.

[@Xorobabel]

Yes, traditional Anglicans do.

[@ringeradam4575]

In some places yes, although our vicar has an unusual habit of standing to the side of the altar... Probably to please everyone

[@forkyicicle8904]

Well, the use for a good few centuries was "at the north end" (i.e. the priest faces south)

[@Православл]

Lol I remember you from orthodox church comments! Slava bogu!

[@matrussell4181]

10:43

[@forkyicicle8904]

As a Latin, I wonder, out of all prayer books in the Anglican tradition, which would be the most Catholic?

[@jcastano]

Very good question and one that has been discussed for a long time. Some would say the first one -- 1549. The American BCP of 1979 is the closest to the post-Vatican II liturgical reforms.

[@VideoMask93]

The Anglican Ordinariate's Missal, "Divine Worship," is pruned to be in accordance with the Catholic tradition. That would probably be closest.

[@bwilliamleo7872]

The current Church of England’s liturgy book Common Worship, Communion service rite1 is almost the same as the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite, just has some very minor differences. The Anglo-catholic missals such as Anglican Missal and English Missal have similar rites like traditional Latin Mass, just in English. The 1549 BCP was based on a more ancient Roman rite, the Sarum Rite.

[@bwilliamleo7872]

As I know, in England, there are many Anglo-catholic parishes, celebrating Masses even much more solemn than local RC Churches. They have everything you expect in a current RC Mass, and lots of old liturgical elements as well, some even have weekly Latin Mass.

[@williamgrantland226]

Some alarmingly high Anglo-Catholic churches use The English Missal, a direct translation of the Roman Missal used in the Latin Mass. The 1549 Book is pretty Catholic, and so is the Divine Worship Missal.