Holy Grail Corvette drag racing a Disco Camaro | STOCK DRAG RACE | CARS AND ZEBRAS

1965 Chevrolet Corvette L78 drag racing 1978 Chevy Camaro z28. pure stock muscle car drag race. factory stock drag race. super car drag race. fast drag race. factory appearing stock tire drag race.
The 1965 Chevy Corvette has a 396 L78 v8 rated 375 horsepower, while the Camaro has a 350 v8 rated 185 (net) horsepower. The Corvette has a 4-speed manual and the Camaro z28 has a 3-speed automatic. Rear gearing in the Camaro is 3.42, and the Corvette features 4.56 gears. Weight of the Corvette with driver is 3622 pounds, with the Camaro 3790 pounds.
Remember, both cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so please check out their website for the rules of this drag racing class: www.psmcdr.com
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - compression ratio 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
Disclaimer: The Cars And Zebras KZbin channel is a news channel bringing results/news of drag racing with added history of automobiles. All footage/pictures used were either captured by the Cars And Zebras channel, or used for critique purposes under Fair Use.

[@CarsAndZebras]

Hey everyone! If you want a chance to be featured in the next full-length video, make sure to leave a comment! The BEST and WORST rated comments will both be shown! So how will you strategize?…. A really nice comment….or….. a really controversial one?

[@panic-revv85]

Crank hp is like measuring your dick from for asshole.

[@arthurdavis3971]

Yes I'm a camaro fan Gen1&Gen2 I really like this camaro 13s wow love it a 396 corvette 4speed awesomely awesome running 13s also great race love your videos keep'em coming cause I don't have any friends 😂👊

[@ripvanrevs]

"I don't mess around with no Oscar Meyer wiener" Tone Loc

[@SeektheLordsface]

Are you Brian from 'regular car review' or related to Him?

[@whatthefox4787]

Wow. That was a real nail-biter. The Camaro did better than i thought with those highway gears.

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

I had a Ttop '78 Z28 in high school 1983-84 & the 1st thing I did was put true duals on it, mild cam, MSD ignition, 8.5mm spark plug wires & ripped off anything smog related & that really woke that 350 up ✌💖☮

[@stephenmaxwellfuks3484]

Your humor reminds me of regular car reviews, but it’s not a copy, you’re original with your own style, I love how informative you are too

[@charlesdalton985]

As a Vette owning, tire smoking, boomer (who embarrassingly danced to disco in the day) I found your comments……hilarious! The Z is running about like they did back then with a few strategic tweaks. Of course, in the end, there’s no substitute for cubic inches. Thanks for the great racing and hilarity. ~ Chuck 🌮🌮

[@CarsAndZebras]

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[@413x398]

I was a total disco rat, and in Los Angeles no less. While my stoner buds sat around being Beavises and Buttheads, and chanting "Death to Disco", I was where the hot horny chicks were: The Disco. NOW Charles, I'll bet that at your age, you are still more coordinated and balanced than most people half or a third of your age. I certainly am, much the surprise of many, and I credit it to years and years on the dance floor. Get your groove on. Don't be embarrassed.

[@carmudgeon7478]

78 Camaro pulling high 13s. 😳 Oh and I laughed out loud. Several times. Thanks C&Z .

[@WildDiamond07]

For a second, I thought it'd be a 1967 Corvette L88 drag racing that '78 Camaro. The '67 L88 Corvette is the coolest C2 Corvette ever in my opinion. And I'm certainly not alone. That monster made 560 HP, compared to its severe 430 HP rating. And they're so expensive even C&Z's girlfriend's father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate can't buy that thing. (I hope you like that Spaceballs reference, everyone)

[@livewire2759]

I was thinking '67 L88 as well, but I don't think they came with a warranty... or at least not 12 months. Either way, the only true "holy grail" Corvette from the classic era would be the 1970 LS7. Supposedly there was ONE built (tested by motor trend if I remember right) and it was later modified, then destroyed. The Spaceballs reference was great though... and no, sir, I didn't see you playing with your dolls again.

[@WildDiamond07]

(in Dark Helmet's voice) Well, only grown up assholes play with dolls besides little kids. In all seriousness, the 1970 LS7 Corvette sure looks like one hell of a treat!

[@therangercast5206]

I own a 79 z28 and I will admit I was shocked with how quick that z was for what they were, great video Mr.Zebra

[@XBobbyVegasX]

I'll take that loss, cool video!!

[@CarsAndZebras]

Thanks!

[@danv8717]

That Vette sounds even better when It's being power shifted like that!

[@CudaRebelsAutoModeling426]

Wow! I have no idea how in the heck I missed this one! That smogged '78 Camaro sure held its own against the "all mighty" Vette! and thanks for using my comment in your new BEST and WORST comment section, I'm truly honored 🦓 I raise a Taco in your name! 🌮💯

[@busterturner8702]

Glad to see the humor back

[@ericwooden6938]

Those disco cruisers could be modified to be faster obviously if you knew what to do. As always, to all the owners, You guys are awesome for bringing these gems to the track.

[@FLYBOY409]

Yo that Camaro ran so fine it deserves high respects 😎

[@sabba_dabba8649]

Camaro sure did give that Corvette a challenge

[@brucebryan3710]

dude you got me laughing,,,needed that!

[@boeing175]

I’m not a Chevy guy but I gotta admit this race was zesty. And you were right I wasn’t ready for how much ass that camaro hauled. I don’t say this often but good on you Chevrolet.

[@gearmeister]

"Zesty" yeah, that's a nice way to put it! I've been following the Zebra 🦓 dude for quite a while, there's a lot of match ups which seemingly don't make sense but I always root for the underdog

[@danam0228]

I loved them Z28s growing up. Good on the 16 yo and his dad

[@paulbaker5920]

The Zebra is back! Thanks for the laughs. Keep up the good work.😆

[@joshuacohn2004]

This is hands-down, my favorite drag racing clip channel!!!! you’re not a real car guy if you don’t love this channel!!!! if you’re ever in Las Vegas look me up!!!

[@mynameis9057]

I'm late to the party but love you and your twisted videos!!! A bug is trying to fly up my nose, much like the 80's!!! Lol

[@dustylover100]

I'm not a serious Corvette fan (love the GTO) but my favorite is the '63 split-window in the rear.

[@garrisonnichols807]

With a few modifications you can really wake these Chevy 350 smog motors up! I'm very impressed just how quick that Camaro was running.

[@mr.iowegian]

Great cars, from a Ford guy. Thanks for all the laughs!

[@bruceallen6016]

The Camaro put on an impressive showing. Not expected to be that close. 😵

[@robertyoung8289]

Farts and Zebras. What's not to love! 😤

[@chevyblue10]

We love you too. And plz keep the corn...its what makes me watch you instead of any of the others. ML&R Brotherman

[@robertwest3093]

I did NOT expect that little Corvette to weigh over 3600 pounds. I used to have 2 second generation Camaros so I know how portly they are.

[@thomas9079]

Awesome!

[@thomasconnolly7452]

I expected the Vette to win but didn't expect the Z28 to keep it that close.

[@TheSleepyMechanic0524]

Corvette driver was driving the wheels off that thing. Power shifts are always cool

[@C5Ron7]

Thanx for the show 👍👍

[@thegreenerthemeaner]

Had a 78 Z28 4 speed 3.73 gears. The Catalytic Convertor was gone and true dual exhaust to the Resonators thru the tsil pipes. Black with gold stripes. A K&N air filter, de-smogged and the timing pulled up and a little jetting on the Qjet with 92 Premium ran a 9.30 1/8th mile.

[@brianmaynard7320]

Dude!! So glad you're back!!! The knowledge you give of each car prior to the race is fantastic! I love all the small detail info! Thanks CZ and thank you drivers!!

[@gearmeister]

I owned a 78 Z28, yeah, complete with the Joe Dirt hair cut!! This was an awesome match up, but hey, big blocks ARE ALL THAT & catch posers on the "big end"... I was a stop light hero, dusting off the most angry wheel spinners! My mods: no cat 🙀 Ram air functional hood scoop True dual exhaust with L82 mufflers Tweaked quadrabog ... It also had the 4-speed & 3.73 gears.. maroon & yes, Z28 stripes! It sounded slightly better than phhhhht!!!!! 😂😂😂

[@CarsAndZebras]

Nice! 😎

[@gearmeister]

@@CarsAndZebras & I got a 4th gear scratch!! 😁

[@geraldlafleur7776]

Well I was a bit shocked with how fast that de smogged Z28 ran . I imagine if the Corvette was given the same treatment it would be in the 12s. All said given that the Z was was driven by a 16 yr. Old is impressive. Way to go dad!

[@markbunn8576]

Those iron headed big blocks in the Corvettes were heavy! They are worth more but I'd rather have a 365 horse 327 as a driver.

[@gearmeister]

The smallblock shed at least 250 lbs, the weight of one Xtra large girlfriend! 🤣🤣🤣

[@CarsAndZebras]

@@gearmeister That’s not enough to shed my ex

[@gearmeister]

@@CarsAndZebras 🦓🦓🦓... LOL 😂 😂 😂

[@chrishensley6745]

Those High Winding 327,s with a 4-speed and gear were tuff for sure.

[@drspeed2006]

Man, this reminds me of my dads yellow 79 camaro with a 396 and a 4 speed, steelies and all, i always loved this generation, it just looks so nice

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

396? Not original engine obviously.

[@drspeed2006]

@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt yeah, it came with it when he bought it

[@unclebob7937]

Broughham is back! Kick Azz!

[@visekual6248]

Finally a new video.

[@Larsen76]

Without the humor…is it really cars and zebras? You are doing the lords work sir.

[@68dart]

Awesome , Thanks C&Z 😊

[@kevinblough2853]

your the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@LifeofnotBrian]

If you want proper car-geekiness, while lying on the ground, grasping for air from laughing too hard, you've come to the right place! A '65 Corvette L78 with sidepipes is automotive perfection! (the Camaro is ok too...)

[@johnfreeman440]

Love love love the toilet humor back. Those video only posts were for the birds.

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Spank!!!!

[@philliplehl5578]

I honestly thought the Vette would take it. That was surprising

[@libertycosworth8675]

Another fun video with your wonderfully heathen humor. The race was a lot closer than it should have been. The 'vette was loud and it ran a fair amount slower than it should have been running with that engine, gearing and transmission in PSMCDR. Oddly enough the side exhausts for those gen 2 corvettes made a lot of noise, but were pretty bad for power based on a few chassis dyno runs I have seen. The Camaro was well prepared for the class, and it ran what you could expect for a properly tuned 350 within the rules.

[@TheGunfighter45acp]

Wait. Who won? Sorry I got distracted by the link to the Brandi Love video...

[@CarsAndZebras]

😎

[@danmyers9372]

Do you need a tissue?

[@robertc4311]

Who is Brandi Love?

[@arthurdavis3971]

Yes I'm a camaro fan gen1&gen2 i really like this one 13s wow and a 396 corvette 4speed running 13s also great race love your video keep'em coming cause i don't have any friends 😂👊

[@enloealex]

Another great video! Thanks for the best commentary in the business! I voted for the corvette. But love the Camaros just as much. Frank is a sad man.

[@briandungan515]

Not sure which was more shocking, how well the disco Camaro ran our hearing Toto....

[@berlives68]

L78 was rated 425 hp in the Corvette. It was rated 375 hp in the Camaro, chevelles, novas and El Camino.

[@slappopotamus1001]

HEY! I have 3 friends damnit! And that is enough for me!

[@CarsAndZebras]

That’s infinitely more than the average viewer

[@livewire2759]

Friends are overrated... all they do is borrow money without paying it back and judge you for watching too much por... never mind.

[@5_qm610]

“She sucked me dry, and not in a good way” I feel that lmao last $20 magically disappeared when we broke up

[@audieconrad8995]

Ohhhh toilet humor and racing in drag...politicians are gonna love you!

[@adamtrombino106]

I'd be really happy with a 78 Camaro that ran high 13s low 14s with an AT and 342s. That being said, you can see how much of a handful that Vette was! 1 mistake is all it takes...something my dad said when he street raced in the early 60s.

[@carlosoliveira-rc2xt]

No stock 78 Camaro is running 13s.

[@AaBb-zj2ld]

your voice overs are key. they make the whole channel.

[@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm]

corvette weight = just a bit more than an early forester ! - but with 425 bhp ha = even that turbo subaru - 177hp.

[@karlepaul6632]

I think the Vette was holding back (again, I just think he was...could be totally wrong)... Great vid, always love the info given 👍

[@bradleyphillips204]

Great video 👍 both great cars. I'd ditch the crappy exhaust in the Camaro too. 2 1/2 inch pipe with 44 series flowmaster mufflers would be music.

[@mr9c1driver59]

The Z28 has obviously been worked on a touch. Automotive magazine tests from 1978 put it at 16.3 in the quarter.

[@Fla5thgenTryMe]

Finally

[@mikeskidmore6754]

My 1979 Z-28 ran 13:56 @ 107 MPH with no traction .. not quite stock but much room for faster times with better traction .

[@bobbyviti7794]

Another awesome video C&Z! Any 1973 Z-28's in any upcoming videos? That's what I have in the garage... Bobby

[@michaelelisy364]

You f___n legend. G'day from down under

[@robertc4311]

Awesome video! Bet the Camaro would drop ET to 13.7s if he put the 3:73 gears from the 4spd cars in the rear...

[@robertjohnson4401]

The vette ran as expected. The Camaro, evidently, was highly modified.

[@toddabbruzzese3974]

thanks C&Z! I poop in your honor!

[@CarsAndZebras]

I couldn’t ask for anything more

[@ludedude5228]

Something doesn't add up . A 396 with 425 HP with an outrageous 4:56 rear is a low 12 second car . Driver must of spun at the starting lane for almost a sec "

[@chrisleggett685]

That Camaro never ran like that when it was new! I wish I knew what they did to get that kind of power from an engine with the terrible heads they had.

[@VictorDeLaTorre]

Finallyyyyyyyyyyyy

[@badassbuick86]

Boomer says the toilet humor is why he left. I'm pretty sure it's why most of us stay. Oh, and Cars & Zebras spitting all the juicy, juicy car facts. Keep up the great work.

[@williamlawrence1422]

The best vette ever 1968 L88 435 hp ,427 cu in . Only year for this engine also.

[@louiskats5116]

Good day C & Z, Never late in a L78, 1978 Z28 not good enough for the L78. Man there are a lot of 8’s floating around & you know 8 is a lucky number. The way that driver was power shifting that L78 man I was waiting for tail shaft to do the figure 8 & wriggle it’s arse from the arse end. Great to hear you at your best, that girlfriend of your get a lot of crap thrown at her, she must be your soul 8. Cheers Your number 1 Fan from Australia. Maybe your 1 st fan from the very beginning 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 Louis Kats from Melbourne, Australia 👍 😊 💪 🇦🇺 🇺🇸

[@MBailey1977]

Those pipes also rob power

[@user-neo71665]

I'd still rather have a 67 with a L89. That said I'm more of an a body or x body fan.

[@breezy0037]

That vette is oh so delicious but the pot smoker camaro takes me back to my youth. I was a ford guy (minus the unforgivable abominable called the mustang 2🤢🤮) but 2nd gens made me happy in my pants.

[@rotorhead5826]

Excellent video! Top quality content.

[@413x398]

Who needs Academy Award movies when you have C&Z Productions?

[@BoricuaBiker2012]

I expected more out off the Corvette and surprised with the Camaro performance.

[@garycordle5295]

Imagine if the Camaro had 410 gear's 👍

[@fart_cannon]

damn, I almost clicked on another website

[@dirtbike9003]

Thumbs up zeb, fun vid

[@user-cz9pm3ye7s]

Love your work.. don't change a thing.. please add more... Yeah I'm one of your guys. Best channel ever... Did you really restore a 69 Chevelle.. frost green.. ?

[@mikeskidmore6754]

The Camaro has better tires.. My 1979 Z-28 Camaro was $7,190.00 on the road .. very few options 3:73 gears BW T-10 4 speed .. the Cast alumnum mags were a $273.00 option .. rear window defogger .. rain gutters.. Radio delete .. Posi traction was $70.00 I think 4% sales tax included.

[@whaleonitduster3402]

Hilarious 😂

[@judgegixxer]

Nice cars. Fun video. Keep it up.

[@ramshaar2597]

I want 2 see this 2 cars on 1 mile race top speed each 1 of them

[@frankartale1026]

The corvette 4.56 gears i think hurt it. 4.10's might have been better. The camaro was fast for what it was. This was a top of the line big block vette vs. a run of the mill smallblock smogger camaro and it barely beat it

[@Timman57]

I've built up a 79 camaro from just an empty shell with a 1971 350 4 bolt main motor with about 18k miles on it from an RV, sounds like it has an RV cam in it (wonder why) and a th350 with a shift kit and converter, motor has a edelbrock intake and a holley 650dp on it with an msd ignition, long tube headers and header mufflers, same 3.40-ish rear end with limited slip, wonder what kinda power and time its running, havent driven it yet, been doing wiring and interior

[@livewire2759]

The '65 396 is considered the "holy grail"? That's ridiculous. Even though the 396 wasn't even available until March of '65, they built nearly 3 times more of them than fuelie's in '65. Being that '65 was the first year for disc brakes and the last year for the fuelie, I'd say that's closer to being a "holy grail" than the 396 cars. For anyone who's interested, the true "holy grail" Corvette would have to be the 1970 LS7. Most sources say that none were ever built, but supposedly only one was built for testing by magazines like Motor Trend. Second to that would have to be the '69 ZL1, which according to assembly plant statistics, only two were built, though it's possible that a third might exist. Then there are the 5 Grand Sport Corvettes, built in '63... the 20 '67 L88s... the 80 '68 L88s... the 116 '69 L88s... all more rare than the 771 '65 L84 fuelies, and FAR more rare than the 2,157 '65 396s. So, can I get the "top comment" award for the best rant?

[@cyndyteichthesen3785]

no.

[@livewire2759]

@@cyndyteichthesen3785 Dang...

[@garydonaghue619]

I love all the farting. You got yourself a new subscriber.

[@johntempest267]

The Camaro was impressive, but the Vette was likely all stock.

[@maryanncristobal2375]

10:42

[@z512345]

It seems to me that all these so called muscle cars run are running very close in ET's regardless 400HP or 150HP.

[@jimmeyer7632]

THAT DAMN CAMARO DID EVEN BETTER THAN I EXPECTED ESPECIALLY WITH 350 2 BOLT AND HIGHWAY GEARS .... FIRST YEAR OF 4 WHEEL DISC BRAKES IN THE VETTE .....THOUGHT THE VETTE SHOULD HAVE DONE LOW 13'S INTERESTING RACE .. PLEASE DON'T CHANGE YOUR FORMAT IT'S ENTERTAINING AND INFORMATIVE

[@ohiomike204]

That Camaro had more done to it than meets the eye. What were they, 8-1 compression and 185hp?

[@hoost3056]

Camaro? How?

[@robertc4311]

The upgrades and changes are in the rules

[@maryanncristobal2375]

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