Holzfforma Saws are Good, But.... G111 G660 Review

[@hosocat1410]

Thanks for your realistic perspective and view. I get tired of "chainsaw experts" badmouthing these saws because they are not stihl quality. Of course they are not. You're paying 25% of the cost. For non professionals they are great.

[@garymcmullin2292]

pretty well presented and insightful. The clone saws are best suited to someone with ability and interest to work out the bugs and perform upgrades. These saws are steadily improving but the issue is inconsistent manufacturing and quality control. A variety of sources in China produce parts, not all are the same in dimension, finish or build quality. These parts are sourced by "trading companies" aka Holzfforma, and they assemble saws from the parts supply. The degree of variation in this path to a finished saw is tremendous. I just bought a copied Husqvarna 372 and a 288. I knew all the probable weak points from massive watching of videos. The first thing I did is invest in OEM or verified good quality aftermarket parts to replace trouble spots...cylinder, piston, crankshaft assembly, carburetors, recoil starters, oil pumps. And when the saws were delivered I never even started them, just went right to a full teardown and rebuilt with upgrade parts. I also brazed in a 1 inch muffler exhaust port to assist breathing and heat removal. I was pretty well impressed with the saw as delivered, but did find several assembly variations that were not so good. Yeah it may seem overdone and to some it defeats the cost savings but that is not so in my thinking. I am still well under half the price of a OEM Husky saw and since I collect and work on saws I am pretty confident these saws will perform and stand up well. These saws I do not believe ought to be run on low oil ratios, stick with 32:1. In milling you will find that heavier oil, tune it to the rich side and removal of the air cleaner cover to allow good heat dissipation will pay off. Get an after market air filter if need be, that is what I did on my milling saw since removal of the air cleaner cover left no provision to use the stock air filter. I milled with a Jonsereds 910E in the 80's and 90's, still running the same piston, rings and cylinder today and it looks ever so good in there!

[@schlomoshekelstein908]

so you bought a chinese saw and then replaced the 'problem spots' with OEM .cylinder, piston, crankshaft assembly, carburetors, recoil starters, oil pumps???? so you saved like what $20 over buying a real husqvarna?

[@roamingducksfarm4828]

Not exactly, the only part I replaced with was the carburetor. The cylinder and piston are aftermarket big bore, the crankshaft assembly wasn't touched, only the recoil rope was replaced, not the recoil assembly, and I have not touched the oil pump yet. With all that said I'm still around $300 less than used saws of this model. I'm still less than half the price of a new one

[@swampy4544]

Really informative. You’re a star. Subscribed. Thinking of pulling the trigger on a g880 purchase here.

[@billgreene7456]

Enjoyed this vid. Useful info and great chic!!

[@roamingducksfarm4828]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@anton_mishchenko]

I have Holzfforma's copy of 372 with 28 in bar. issues: 1. broken pull cord after about a week of work. 2. I replaced carb with walbro carb, because "stock" one was near impossible to tune up (it required regular adjustment during the work). Other that than - great saw for it's price.

[@roamingducksfarm4828]

Seems like common issues with the bigger saws by them, did the same with the 660 clone, and ready to replace both on the 466

[@garrytalley8009]

Sounds like you got a deal. Those are simple fixes.

[@robertclark2714]

We bought the Holzfforma G660 with a 36 inch OEM STIHL bar with chisel skip chain for an F2plus chainsaw mill. We went with a Farmertec High Output Oil Pump with a 1.3 mm stroke. We added an OEM STIHL chain adjuster, an OEM STIHL decompression valve, an OEM STIHL Recoil Rotor and a Dual Port Muffler Cover then we ported the Resonator. The saw has paid for itself after the first couple of uses and we are VERY PLEASED. Run it rich and with 32:1 mix. We will put a real carburetor on it if it is necessary in the future, So far so good.

[@garrytalley8009]

Real carburetor? You have a real carburetor. OEM carburetor maybe? Get real.

[@kraftzion]

Very nice review. If you haven't modded your muffler on the 660 you should. Get the heat out. Also didn't mention the oil you use. Going to a full synthetic higher flash point oil and or a mix ratio with more oil will allow your saw to operate at a higher temperature without failure.

[@roamingducksfarm4828]

I didn't think much on the oil thanks for mentioning that, I dropped the 660 at a local shop to build it properly, with porting and a muffler mod and all that to really get the power from it But I have 2 new saws coming in the mail, one will replace the 660 as my milling saw, I will do a review on them as well

[@MrjackieG]

@@roamingducksfarm4828 I run mine on Opti-2 at 90-1 ratio. Never skips a beat.

[@katarzynafolgier331]

Will this blue machine cut car tire ? I like it.

[@cowboymcq6711]

I love my haulzforma 66 just check the nuts and bolts to make sure there all right Runs great when’s she’s up and running starts every time 👍🏼

[@MarkyMark1986]

Your full wrap handle is bent I have 10 g660s all have full wrap handles and you can get a saw wrench on the bar nuts that’s why your paint is chipping off.

[@danfuller4793]

For milling use the 124cc clone. I bullet proofed my kitsaws following Walt at a fleet command suggestions.

[@roamingducksfarm4828]

I recently got the 070 clone to use as my mail milling saw, I'm trying to break it in before I start milling with it. So far I like it

[@vikingnorm6935]

I ordered this saw, then bought a pile of OEM parts that supposedly go out quickly, then ordered what the Stihl dealer didn’t have in stock, got all my parts before the saw, which the saw came in like 7-8 days, I never milled, but never babied it & ran like 25-30 tanks through it so far & never swapped out a part yet, idk if I’m lucky, or they are getting better, or people don’t take care of their tools, I run 25 inch bar

[@superiorvideoandphotograph375]

What chainsaw don't have to be tinkered with?

[@LearningOfOld]

Sounds like the top handle saw need grease in the clutch bearing, or it’s already worn out, they jingle like a bell when they need to be replaced

[@roamingducksfarm4828]

I pulled it apart and greased it after making this video, it came from factory dry

[@garrymercer757]

You are incorrect. Holtzfforma chainsaws are not clones and they are not knock offs. When Stihl or Husqvarna are updating or no longer interested in manufacturing a series of saw, they are bound by trade laws to supply parts for 10 years. They then sell the rights to Holtzfforma who then own those series and manufacture them. That does not mean the quality of the Holtzfforma is as consistently as good as Stihl or Husqvarna, although it must be said husqvarna and especially stihl have had certain ongoing issues themselves. The thing that sets Holtzfforma apart to other chinese chainsaws is you can replace parts on them with genuine stihl or husqvarna parts. That is not to say they are even better than a couple of other chinese saws none of which you have there. I was amused at another video where some lad was complaining about some basic broken parts like rope pulls after he had slabbed thousands of feet of timber, which would happen even to a major brand saw. The crazy thing was he was replacing the faulty parts with holtzfforma parts instead of genuine husqvarna parts. The 70cc version of the husqvarna is the 272xp and is the holtzfforma g272xp

[@garymcmullin2292]

very wise to realize the saws capability, size up the job. Push any motorized device beyond its design capability and the result is disaster every time.

[@jasonjansen6982]

Try/use a McCulloch pro Mac 55 for a milling saw and see what you love more Love to see more videos

[@bozzaa]

Man, you got some mad chemtrails there?

[@codypaul4181]

Just bend out the wrap handle a bit

[@peterellis4262]

I burned up my 070 in a pretty big hurry ;)

[@petemisc4291]

With all that smoke, must be 25:1

[@codypaul4181]

Just bend out the wrap handle a bit