Homemade tilt-up erecting

[@notyou6950]

This is what was referred to as "Wielka Płyta" - Large Plate construction style in The '60 and '70 Poland. I lived in a 10 story appartament building made this way. It's quick and cheap construction style. It was a bit drafty and cold in winter if the window seals were bad.

[@weldcut2643]

Aha. Although the main difference from "Wielka Płyta" is that the plates in the video were made on a construction site.

[@notyou6950]

@@weldcut2643 this was the benefit of that type of construction. The industrial size and large output from a single location production plant that supplied uniform construction elements to a local residential building sites. My father was an engineer setting up one of those plants. The local name for that business was "Fabryka Domów" House Plant.

[@weldcut2643]

@@notyou6950 Good for Poland if a business like Fabryka Domów flourish. In Russia, this type of house is not popular. Slabs are expensive to manufacture and mega expensive to deliver on site.

[@notyou6950]

@@weldcut2643 I think it was driven by the need to build housing for the general population. My building was 10 stories +1 (ground floor is called Parter), each with 3 families per floor. Each building had 2 sections with 1 elevator shaft. Total of 72 addresses. The numbers went up quickly. With the immediate street holding 4 of those "Blocks". Since they were identical, it was a great solution to apply in growing cities. Otherwise, the people had to wait years to get a decent place to live. After the war, all private property was confiscated by the state and housing was tight. I know of a home owner with a multi story single family house who had to wait till the late '90s to get their house back. All the other tenants either moved out or died. Then the communism died and the system changed and they got their property back.

[@pmarkey5493]

nice planning obviously. I've done this on a large scale. it's all about the preparation,measuring, etc. well done.

[@absolutecharles]

It might be nice if there was a way to attach the roof slab to the walls... maybe a fitted concrete shape, or some areas where rebar can go through and you can pour concrete. Just so in the event of earth tremor, sinkhole, or hurricane, it's harder for the roof panel to slide off (or lift off).

[@tird108]

The put inbeds in concrete and weld it together normally or angle iron and bolt it

[@MrGusinfla]

There's ways

[@Карабас_Барабасс]

TILT-UP дословно переводится - *НАКЛОН* ВВЕРХ. Не подъем, а именно *НАКЛОН* , т.е. без отрыва от нижней поверхности (земли). Англо-русский строительный словарь. tilt-up method "Метод «тилт-ап» *метод монтажа* малоэтажных зданий с использованием крупных стеновых панелей на полную высоту здания, изготовленных на месте возведения здания *с поворотом этих сборных элементов вокруг нижней опорной кромки."©* *ЭТИМ ВСЁ СКАЗАНО!* Поскольку, таким методом обычно возводились в основном торговые и складские площади, то и КРУПНЫЕ панели отливались прям на месте из за невозможности перевозки таких НЕ ГАБАРИТНЫХ (и тяжёлых) панелей, которые отливались (в основном на готовом ровном фундаменте) таким образом, чтоб их нижняя кромка прилегала к месту их установки, для того чтоб при помощи НЕ ПОЛНОГО подъёма, а именно ПОВОРОТА вокруг этой нижней кромки БЕЗ ЕЁ ОТРЫВА от фундамента эту крупную и тяжелую панель можно было установить на своё место. Такой метод подъёма панелей, не только позволяет не разрушить крупную, тонкую и хрупкую панель, но и позволяет УМЕНЬШИТЬ ПОДЪЕМНУЮ СИЛУ МИНИМУМ В 2 РАЗА и использовать подъемные механизмы (кран, лебедки, домкраты и тд) гораздо более слабые (в 2 раза), что удешевляет и упрощает процесс строительства. Буржуинских фото и видео про именно метод тилт-ап полно в инете, как полно и не про тилт-ап. В виду всего вышесказанного, на видео НЕ тилт-ап, а просто самодельные многослойные панели и всё.

[@refusoagaino6824]

His last worker, Eddie "the pancake" took early retirement, now he works as a door mat. Did you watch them 'lean' one section against a neighbor's wall? Built 35 years ago with one bag of cement?

[@fazalqadir7862]

Here in pakistan our houses are full concreted .walls are made from breaks and slab from concrete ..but these types of houses are too hot in summer and too cold in winter..we can get all construction material very low..50 kg cement just in 2.50 dollar.. despite of it our cost of normal house is 30 thousand dollar.

[@weldcut2643]

On the video is garage + warehouse for wood, so hot and cold doesn't matter. My home also is built in a similar way, but walls and roof have an additional layer of 20cm styrofoam. Here in Moscow cement also quite cheap -- 2.5-3$/50kg, nonetheless, almost nobody uses it as material for walls and roof. Very popular gasbeton blocks.

[@davidpotter3777]

Thought the audio was my stomach making noise, God bless you and your family Aloha David

[@jatrubka1]

Хорошая технология. но утепление пенопластом мне не нравится. И еще есть проблема заделки швов. Если для жилого дома, то я бы лучше взял однослойные плиты, собрал из них коробку, а потом снаружи утеплил блоками из специального газобетона низкой плотности Д150- Д 200 толщиной и 200 мм. Так бы и решилась проблема с заделкой швов .

[@mrhoop66]

You guys make a great home.

[@MegaJohnhammond]

at least you don't need to worry about termites

[@happy2b4]

Very well done on a low budget. I am impressed. A few more windows might be nicer.

[@StanOwden]

What was the heaviest section and what cranes lift capacity was?

[@Amar-fu7eq]

Bulletproof building

[@boracay12]

it looks solid . kind of worriesum having a concrete slab over my head though. in a earth quake region .

[@NotN8]

paul joe I'd think it had rebar within it, unlikely for it to crumble badly

[@drspastic]

are the walls poured on site or transported? how much stability is lost against shuttering pours?

[@weldcut2643]

poured in place. Some stability is lost, but nothing to worry about. Especially in an area without earthquakes

[@drspastic]

there are similar houses built in UK after ww2 called prefabs. hardly any now but a lot lasted until the 80s-90s. concrete cancer got to a lot of them.still 50+ years is better than a lot of modern construction using cheap wood and staples.

[@محمدخليل-ن6ج]

is it a foamed scrap

[@weldcut2643]

Not foamed, just ordinary concrete.

[@محمدخليل-ن6ج]

@@weldcut2643 Thank you creative, can you build with foam concrete

[@weldcut2643]

Sorry, but I do not understand what do you mean by "fix the foam".

[@honeytubs]

Looks great. How were the lifting points made?

[@weldcut2643]

See here, photo #4 www.forumhouse.ru/posts/5330923/

[@martinsemrok]

I noticed the running shoes, no steel toed boots (pinched toes)?

[@russellcunning]

I used to live in Ukraine, and when I asked about safety equipment they scoffed and said, "We are not babies to be wrapped up. We use our brains and eyes and are careful." I was surprised at how few injuries occurred, and most of them were due to drunkenness.

[@MrGusinfla]

It happens

[@paulmangwengwe9284]

Cool house except for the roof.

[@SStrauss]

Здравствуйте! Как поживает данная конструкция сейчас? Есть ли недостатки? Спасибо за науку ваша тема на форум хаусе просто кладезь полезной информации.

[@weldcut2643]

Стоит уже 4-й год. Есть вертикальные трещины в штукатурке в углах, толщиной менее 1мм . По одной на каждую щель, где сходятся плиты. В остальном никаких движений не замечено. Считаю, что недостатков как для сарая нет.

[@SStrauss]

Спасибо ! Значит - буду строить по этой технологии.

[@weldcut2643]

@Sub Zero с тех пор ничего не поменялось

[@weldcut2643]

@Sub Zero Кроме сарая, что на видео я построил еще два дома по этой технологии, очень доволен. В России эта технология не пользуется популярностью., хотя все кто пробовали так строить её хвалят. Мне известно не более десятка примеров с Форумхаус.

[@6minutescrafts494]

Great system....how do you bolt it all together?

[@TUKByV1]

You can literally bolt them together by embedding special threaded anchors. Then you use strong steel plates or angles and big bolts. You can also embed special steel plates in the concrete, then weld another piece of steel to connect two panels. Joists and beams are also connected to panels with these methods.

[@edardon16]

how they " connect" the wall corners each other and assure the roof to the walls

[@weldcut2643]

The walls do not connect with each other at the corners. Only foam and plaster at the gaps. The roof slabs linked at the top by rebars tag. That is the only link in the whole building. The walls do not fall apart because the roof lay on them and hold them together.

[@MrGusinfla]

They can and do with something called embeds

[@edardon16]

the future is here

[@Milo_1368]

So what happens when the ground shifts?

[@weldcut2643]

It will collaps as a "house of cards".

[@Glidescube]

I thought when they built this they slip the slabs into a slot on the ground

[@roseescritor8894]

7 years nicee... Thanks KZbin

[@ketevangiunashvili3334]

ფასი უნდა დაწეროთ და რამდენ დღეში ააწყონთ.

[@mandyNdave]

Were the slabs near the camera poured on top of each other? Or were they poured then stacked? Nice video! It was very easy to watch and made the process look far too easy ;)

[@weldcut2643]

I grant this nice link kzbin.info/www/bejne/q4aaqYqBrKx9gMk especially for mandyNdave , enjoy.

[@mandyNdave]

Спасибо

[@MrGusinfla]

We do pour them in levels on jobs with limited room. These where poured then stacked.

[@StanOwden]

Blimley, They're fast!

[@webuildrocks]

They too, approx precast wall production time 4 to 6 hours depends on the size of the wall. www.lightandcoolwallsystem.com

[@noneofyourconcern5448]

how they connect the corners??

[@weldcut2643]

Corners are not connected. Gaps in the corners are just filled with plaster.

[@antoniosalvador9754]

solid concrete?

[@weldcut2643]

+jo sal Yes, it is solid

[@antoniosalvador9754]

thats what i wanna do also. thanks man. how long did you cure yur walls before you erected them? how thick also?

[@weldcut2643]

5 days would be enough for curing. 50 mm concrete + 150 mm styrofoam. A lot more information is here www.forumhouse.ru/threads/332839/ and here www.forumhouse.ru/threads/191052/ all in Russian.

[@rukhone1]

How did they glue walls to the floor, and to eachother

[@weldcut2643]

Wall is laying on a couple of wood pieces (you can see on the photos www.forumhouse.ru/posts/14074862/ ). Lately, the gap between the walls and the floor is stuffed by concrete. Gaps between walls filled by PU-foam, then plastering.

[@diyexplorer8728]

How I wish to make such a thing doing just by my self.

[@shemae25]

the roof looks heavy its very thick

[@robertjackson4121]

They have 50,000,000 vacant units in china 2018...

[@emceha]

Is that full slab as a roof element, f***ck me. Wouldn't it be cheaper and lighter to buy a hollow core?

[@weldcut2643]

When you have experience of making a couple of dozens of slabs and all equipment and materials are already on site, the extra 4 slabs for the roof appear to be a very cheap and easy option. At least 5 times cheaper then hollow core.

[@MrGusinfla]

🤣 they do not make hollowcore that size

[@tonywellard458]

I'm looking for a system like this to use in Africa for low cost housing. Can someone contact me pls, sorry I don't speak Russian

[@weldcut2643]

No one here in Russia use cost-in-place tiltup panel in more or less large scale. Only some enthusiasts like me. So, no need to speak Russian.

[@oscaranderson8703]

Tony Wellard Oscar usa 25 year Carpenter and concrete man.will make you a system.what dose it pay?

[@Forevertrue]

Don't be sorry be glad you don't speak Russian..

[@pierreli3020]

Tony Wellard Which country are we working in Africa

[@rukhone1]

@@weldcut2643 , how walls were glued together and glued to floor

[@c50ge]

SQUARE FOOTAGE AND COST?

[@TUKByV1]

Ymmv. Concrete prices vary. Panel details (such as rebar) will further alter the final cost of each sq ft of panel. Take great care with application of the bond breaker-the most expensive panel is the one you have to throw away.

[@yasirjamal1170]

They need bonding .there is no bond in this building

[@weldcut2643]

Roof by its weight holds all walls together

[@salomongutierrez6419]

if. that. house fall down what happy to the people

[@weldcut2643]

No any if. There is no way to collapse for this warehouse. This construction is capable to withstand any level of earthquake. Only tank or bulldozer can help. Though, I must admit that some safety inspector would be horrified watching this video.

[@АртурРябко-в6ю]

Из чего панельки?😮

[@weldcut2643]

Железобетон самомесный

[@joseamv17]

and electrical installations?

[@weldcut2643]

+José Amado Martínez Villarreal There is no preinstalled elements of electricity, pyping, etc. This building was supposed to be boiler house and workshop without detyed plan at that moment.

[@TUKByV1]

Excellent.

[@theman7391]

Zero Consideration for seismic and wind. Only good for vertical load design

[@LukeANewton]

In many parts of the world there is no need for seismic consideration and there's no way that roof is going to blow off.

[@TUKByV1]

Not true for wind. Seismic-who cares? Only crazies live on active faults.

[@iRurikovich]

Блин, так это гараж и кладовка, а не дом.

[@weldcut2643]

Это склад для дров/гараж +котельная/мастерская.

[@АртурРябко-в6ю]

Хочу такой домик на дачу!😮

[@sayingitdirect9249]

its ging to be so f cold in there just like in a refrigerator or like living in the basement

[@andersonevangelista8242]

Muito cimento para fazer uma casa tão simples!

[@carlthornton3076]

Very Good!!!

[@ngmoon1A]

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[@iraqi1786]

it's very good

[@ottoduplessis4870]

What an over design. Building a bomb shelter?

[@martinsemrok]

My roof is 6 inches of concrete also (formwork and concrete pumped 20 cu meters.

[@refusoagaino6824]

Thermal mass is the valuable but least used tool in the north American residential box. That concrete/masonry is the fastest, easiest way to include it is changing too. The Carbon footprint to make the Portland Cement is unacceptably high, so people the world over are looking for substitutes and finding them, from WeedCrete to other polymer substitutes, etc.. We also have Phase Change Materials as a substitute for concrete products, but you can't buy it at Home Depot, yet. Our building code now is "stick-frame" centric and measured for efficiency by the LEEDS standards. Which are very good by the way, but like Internal Combustion Engines, are on the way out because the methodology has reached it's efficiency limits cost-wise, and we have better. Passivhaus or Passive Design is everything LEEDS is but better, because it doesn't depend on equipment to make up it's design shortfalls, using the ground, the site and natural systems to condition the envelope. Thermal mass is carefully included according to it's coefficient of heat, (absorptivity) shape and logistical considerations, overall volume (mass) and location in proximity to other elements of the building's design. 3D software, energy analysis programs, and Virtual Reality are rapidly changing people's attitudes regarding any building methods, because we can 'guess' how a building will perform. In real time we can move a wall of concrete, closer or further away from a glass (window) area or increase/decrease it's volume to see how that affects things like the maximum temperature the building will reach on a given day. If increasing the height of a ceiling will cool off the eating area of the kitchen, or increasing the size of a few windows, while eliminating others will increase passive solar efficiency. We can effect those changes in 1:1 scale with a VR headset and get numerical results as we design. (Real time) As a building contractor since the '80s, I understand site logistics and the importance of staying in sequence during construction. Now using programs like Sketchup, the design experience is very much like actually being onsite and calling the shots; Build a block wall over hear and see if it shade the stairwell, Place a chair at the end of the bar and swivel around to view what will be seen and what light will be available. The options are many. Radiant heat energy and electromagnetics is the latest area of research concerning those in hot climes, but most tech transfers it's benefits to either buildings for cold climates or hot. But not all, which is why we have 2019 California Air/moisture barriers and other HVAC regulations that originated in Europe 20 or 30 years ago, finally 'trickling" down to us here in the low desert where it's 121F in the shade some days. Last summer we crossed a temperature related limit into new territory; For a few days it wasn't cool enough at night to bring down the temperature of the entire house to where it started the day before. This is called "Heat Islanding" and can occur to a small building or an entire community or city even. (Phoenix, last summer) The night time low temperatures aren't sufficient to bring the building down to actual ambient (outside) air temperature because the concrete mass in proximity, especially the stucco siding, is holding too much heat. Each day the house starts out a little warmer. Using current code and HVAC equipment, we don't even notice it, because the equipment runs a few minutes or an hour longer. Passive design wouldn't allow it. All/any thermal mass should be inside the envelope/insulation. These stand up concrete walls are ideal. Now they can insulated the building on the outside, leaving the concrete exposed inside. Even covering it with drywall or paint, reduces it's moderating effect.

[@MrGusinfla]

Very efficient actually

[@ngmoon1A]

平房

[@trunglecong4013]

Hay

[@urbanplanner7200]

As a American I am disgusted anyone would build a house out of durable materials.

[@weldcut2643]

Why? After 50-100 years concrete crushers easily convert this building into a few cubic meters of good material for road construction. Still, here in Russia, we enjoy the freedom to build houses in the way that we want. And yes, I disgust plywood homes.

[@absolutecharles]

@@weldcut2643 It was sarcasm.. we build plenty of cheap homes here, and the results are stupid :)

[@MrGusinfla]

🤣 I had to read that twice

[@MrGusinfla]

@@weldcut2643 it was a joke cause other countries make fun of our buildings

[@dejanira2]

So much wasted movement

[@ScottishNSRailFan]

Hideous

[@OSCAR-WW-]

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