Denzel Washington’s Hannibal Barca Controversy

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@toledoboogz9817
@toledoboogz9817 10 ай бұрын
I wonder why there is a problem with Denzel playing Hannibal but there is virtually little to nothing said when Australian actor Joel Edgerton played Ramses, Scottish born actor Gerard Butler played Leonidus, or American actor Sigourney Weaver, played Queen Tuya? Nobody has heritage issues then? No?
@elo6550
@elo6550 10 ай бұрын
With Gerard Butler there is no problem. Leonidas was white, a typical Mediterranean white, and Gerard Butler has a Mediterranean look.
@VeveJones-q9b
@VeveJones-q9b 10 ай бұрын
The Gods of Egypt had mostly caucasians playing Kemetic/Egyptian Gods but no one says a word about historical inaccuracy then
@dxwallace55
@dxwallace55 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention all the white actors having played Jesus.......
@thevisitor1012
@thevisitor1012 10 ай бұрын
@@elo6550 OP is pointing out the hypocrisy of the critics. They're trying to make it seem like they hate the Hannibal casting not because of race, but rather because they didn't grab an actor with Tunisian nationality. Yet no one complained when someone of Scottish nationality played a person from the Mediterranean.
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng 10 ай бұрын
I agree with that. I don't understand why the US keeps making movies about foreigners. These aren't US stories. Making them in English is a Even further insult. I don't even know this story tbh
@mukondelelic.mulaudzi8357
@mukondelelic.mulaudzi8357 10 ай бұрын
Peace from South Afrika my Brother, I appreciate the great work you been doing. Keep up the good work. I know it's not easy to delve into such topics, so it is much appreciated!
@77Productions77
@77Productions77 10 ай бұрын
Your comparison of this Hannibal controversy to Enders Theory is 100% Factual. As long as the figure “sacrificed” into blackness has a horror story attached to the end of it it’s ok. As long as you understand that you can rise up against Greco-Roman oppression (which still applies to the west today because modern European empires were built off of that foundation) but you’ll never win. Same reason why contemporary America education never focuses on Black figures that have challenged oppression and took a W.
@alexandredesouza3692
@alexandredesouza3692 10 ай бұрын
I'm not 100 on that because we got great movies like The Woman King and Hidden Figures. Do I think Hollywood is biased against black actors and characters? Absolutely. Do I think Hannibal is an example of this? Probably not. Denzel is an amazing actor. He just finished the Equalizer trilogy, he did Macbeth and he had a triumphant victory in the Magnificent Seven, playing a character who had previously been portrayed as white (and asian, technically)
@bobanjordan7653
@bobanjordan7653 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@alexandredesouza3692nobody liked the woman king and hidden figures was mid🤡 Hannibal was black so he should be portrayed that way in movies🤣🤣
@complexblackness
@complexblackness 10 ай бұрын
​@@bobanjordan7653Hidden colors was what?
@noirmanoir1061
@noirmanoir1061 10 ай бұрын
​@@alexandredesouza3692you sound out of touch. Every black person in the know understands that both those movies are coded slights against black people by white racist hollywood.
@alexandredesouza3692
@alexandredesouza3692 10 ай бұрын
@@bobanjordan7653 Bad opinions aside, you're right about Hannibal.
@dxwallace55
@dxwallace55 10 ай бұрын
Funny how the people so passionate to say Hannibal wasn't black, are quick to accept any image of a White Jesus in any movie or painting. Interesting.....
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng 10 ай бұрын
What's really funny is how Hispanics my complection are called black by black US Americans and we're the same complection as the image of Jesus. If you call us black but call the image of Jesus white and we're the same complection what are you lying about?
@Gyamfi
@Gyamfi 10 ай бұрын
wooow.....there's many differnt pics of jesus....brown...blk jesus.....
@peterroberts7684
@peterroberts7684 10 ай бұрын
Jeshua was neither white nor black.
@gwendolyngraham8399
@gwendolyngraham8399 10 ай бұрын
​@peterroberts7684 wrong, the original tribe of Judah is black not a Arab.
@mikeharrison124
@mikeharrison124 10 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@devaughnjohnson8119
@devaughnjohnson8119 10 ай бұрын
I THINK YOU HIT IT!!! Your theory helped open up a new lane of thinking for me concerning the subject of how we have been and still are being portrayed. As you said - the film culture is killing two birds with one stone.
@geekyboy6875
@geekyboy6875 10 ай бұрын
Naw they creating a return of old way of thinking
@etruscancivilization
@etruscancivilization 10 ай бұрын
Well those ancient Black signifiant others did die at the end as we all will die some day. The focus does not have to be about these ancient significant Black peoples death, but rather, what did they achieve during their life times.. It seem to me that many Black people do not believe in their own Black History, and are confused about how white racist filmmakers decide to portray us, and whether or not the white racist audience will accept the historical films. My primary focus is always on their achievements, and less about when and how they died, since we all will die some day.. By the way most of the Roman emperors were murdered by their own people in HORRIFIC incidents, Remember "BEWARE THE IDES OF MARCH" before Julius Caesar was STABBED to death,,and do you we hear white folks complaining about how he died, and saying "THEY MADE HIM WHITE SO THAT HE COULD BE STABBED TO DEATH AT THE END" ha ha.. That is the same with the REPARATION discussions when Blacks are arguing about "WHO SHOULD GET BLACK REPARATIONS", and that it should only be for "ADOS", and another group says it should be "FBA's", and that NEWER immigrants from the Caribbean/Africa who arrived 100 years ago back in 1923 should not qualify for any reparations, as if they did not suffer from the oppresion of "JIM CROW" laws and racial discrimination, RACE RIOTS that destroyed Black townships etc., and should not receive reparations for that suffering. It is like some Blacks are saying that "MASSA DON'T GIVE THEM OTHER NEGROES NO MONEY, PLEASE JUST GIVE IT TO US ADOS or FBA's", as if they are so worried about the white man's money, and don't give it to those other Blacks because they are different from us, WHEN HE DON'T PLAN TO GIVE IT TO ANY OF US.. So I say why worry about other Blacks getting reparations for their past 100 yrs of oppression/LYNCHINGS, UNEQUAL EDUCATION, HOUSING, EMPLOYING DISCRIMINATION even if it was after CHATTEL SLAVERY, because we are continuing to suffer and be victims of discrimination and oppression..Thats my take on the subject..
@emperorthylord
@emperorthylord 10 ай бұрын
i love jewish people
@bdleo300
@bdleo300 9 ай бұрын
More blatant cultural appropriation and history falsification by American media corporations and cIueIess YT shiIIs. USA cultural terrorism, let them make comic books movies about their own history (very short one).
@gadeyeye6268
@gadeyeye6268 10 ай бұрын
I agree with your theory, and I would add the self sabotaging hero mentality in our own community and stories that contributes to this psychosis phenomena. How our people enemies depicted us should be no shock but how we depict ourselves is despicable at times, we must admit that honestly to grow
@geekyboy6875
@geekyboy6875 10 ай бұрын
Y’all want ppl important to white ppl to be black instead of actual black history and figures. Also given how white ppl white men love rome. It’s very calculated to make the greatest enemy of Rome a black man instead of his real ethnicity and not real black royalties
@mariejane1567
@mariejane1567 10 ай бұрын
do we do it?
@Sweetie_abundant_heart
@Sweetie_abundant_heart 10 ай бұрын
Denzel took the role. He's selective. He does his homework. He wouldn't have taken it if he didn't feel right about playing the character and the accuracy of the representation.
@brianvesta
@brianvesta 10 ай бұрын
Sorry I didn't trust old Denzel and I don't trust Hollywood....
@thedualtransition6070
@thedualtransition6070 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, just like the Black Cleopatra!
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
he already played Macbeth; a Scottish king. Just about accuracy of the representation
@nagameel7324
@nagameel7324 10 ай бұрын
@@TheVinci19he descends from the house of Dunkeld as did George Washington so it’s actually quite fitting.
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
@@nagameel7324 he doesn’t look like George Washington.
@koolkeef
@koolkeef 10 ай бұрын
The people complaining about Denzel being cast wouldn't have said a mumbling word if it were Brad Pitt.
@GrandEmporer
@GrandEmporer 10 ай бұрын
It should of been an AFRICAN playing Hannibal.
@missjuneplum1
@missjuneplum1 10 ай бұрын
@@GrandEmporer erm, Denzel Washington is African. 🤔
@byshopwilliams8256
@byshopwilliams8256 10 ай бұрын
No actually hes not and if you think all "black" people are african or ​born in africa your apart of the race problem @@missjuneplum1
@bda8267
@bda8267 10 ай бұрын
​@@missjuneplum1No he's not
@missjuneplum1
@missjuneplum1 10 ай бұрын
@@bda8267 he's of African descendant which means he's African.
@Kangz-uz1oh
@Kangz-uz1oh 10 ай бұрын
Hannibal Barca was Black Deal with it.
@Kangz-uz1oh
@Kangz-uz1oh 10 ай бұрын
@@shafsteryellow Sheeet!!!! ........
@KOCChristian
@KOCChristian 10 ай бұрын
Hannibal was most likely brown but unfortunately we live time where people think they’re only white and black ppl
@VeveJones-q9b
@VeveJones-q9b 10 ай бұрын
​@@KOCChristianHe was of Punic origin aka African Descent this argument is stupid
@mmi5833
@mmi5833 10 ай бұрын
What's that has to do with your confusion????????​@judaman837
@airjarek91
@airjarek91 10 ай бұрын
He was and Ernle Bradford book about Hannibal on page 59 he refers to Hannibal as “the dark skinned leader of the strange foreign army” On page 125 Ernle Bradford calls Hannibal “The Alexander The Great of the Afro-Semitic world.”
@Reformedhillbilly369
@Reformedhillbilly369 10 ай бұрын
This is the first I am hearing of a Hannibal show. As a history buff with a passion for Carthaginian society, this is exciting. Also Denzel is a really skilled actor. History KZbin likes the get outraged when someone of color plays a character they think shouldn’t be. Then go on to completely ignore whitewashing of other historical characters. It would be nice if there was some self-awareness there. Also, I’ve seen a dumb argument crop up a lot. The one where people say, if such and such person was of this complexion why didn’t anyone mention it in accounts? This shows a lack of understanding history and how racism (the way we view it today) is only about 500 years old. People hated each other for lots of class, tribal, and linguistic reasons, but “race” is a very new concept.
@eastsidepb8139
@eastsidepb8139 10 ай бұрын
To add to that. People only bring that up about people of color. We never said why wasn't it mentioned when it comes to white people. It's ridiculous.
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 10 ай бұрын
Who has been whitewashed specifically?
@Reformedhillbilly369
@Reformedhillbilly369 10 ай бұрын
@@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 In the spirit that this is a genuine question, one example is nearly every character in Exodus: Gods and Kings. The most striking being Ramses and Queen Tuya.
@bigjake6936
@bigjake6936 10 ай бұрын
Racism as defined today is an extremely new concept. Seeing as how it was redefined 3 years ago. I can't wait for the movie about the REAL Dahomey tribe. Wonder how many melonated will be signing up for those lead roles.
@Geion
@Geion 10 ай бұрын
Cause most dont understand that "race" is a societal construct.
@novusmundi
@novusmundi 10 ай бұрын
I love your videos and have more trust in yours than many other "historical" videos. If you aren't positive about something, you come right out and say it as with this video. You are asking questions here, not making statements. You are allowing your viewers to hear the perspectives of all sides. That is awesome. I have learned more about Sub Saharan Africa from you than anywhere else. Keep this up. You are better than the so-called History Channel. I have to admit that I miss your original theme with the drums, though.
@ursamajor6347
@ursamajor6347 9 ай бұрын
Good god, y'all are insecure.
@novusmundi
@novusmundi 9 ай бұрын
@@ursamajor6347 Complimenting him makes me insecure? Did you ride the short bus to school?
@polleonardtaliesinhywel6986
@polleonardtaliesinhywel6986 10 ай бұрын
I would love to see a well written movie on Amanirenas or Piye just as much as I’d like to see movies about Brian Boru, Hywel Dda, Llewelyn the Last, or Owain Glyndwr. Unfortunately Hollywood ignores good stories from non-Anglo-Germanic-Hellenic cultures and tends to portray them as insignificant barbarians. William Wallace and Robert Bruce were both of Anglo-Norman stock, and are often put on pedestals because their heritage is more agreeable with Anglicized audiences. Ethiopia also has a vibrant and decently documented history, but is also ignored by Hollywood as a source of good uplifting narratives. Just think if we could get a historical movie or show that shows the fall of the Solomonic dynasty and the rise of the Zagwe with all the political intrigue such a narrative has to offer! One can only hope!
@Gyamfi
@Gyamfi 10 ай бұрын
okay tell Denzel to do tthose movies then.......they lmow about such...
@admirekashiri9879
@admirekashiri9879 10 ай бұрын
Hence why we should make these films ourselves. Waiting for Hollywood will do no good.
@teeldd
@teeldd 10 ай бұрын
King Piankhi would be incredible
@ahnraemenkhera7451
@ahnraemenkhera7451 10 ай бұрын
@admirekashiri9879. My very thoughts!! These theses & themes of study should be examined more thoroughly, beginning at the undergrad level of film studies-& progressing from there. So-titled “Enders Theory” derives its roots from the published works of Donald Bogle, Henry Turner Ward, Frantz Fanon & others of earlier eras, exploring literature & and theatrical propaganda widely-disseminated in the 20th century, under which Black & Afrikan centrism found themselves relegated. “Tragic mulatto” themes of Chesnutt, Toomer, Richard Wright, & others come to mind. But it’s not realistic to anticipate “DEI” treatments or any other concessions really, from persons long-embattled & long-enriched by mostly anti-Black/Black-omission qualities in productions. Only the people of Afrikan origin have any real interest or responsibility to THEIR young to present their historical mandates as ancestry would have it-for the betterment & self-respect required in order to entirely detach from subjugation as a thought-action perspective. European mythology has done no less for its descendants, regardless of truth or accuracy in films/plays. Doing so with Truth as a precept is now imperative in order for Black people to dispel self-lying, self-deception re: systemics & global power dynamics. Film majors & performing artists in the future have no currency to gain by falling for “opportunity” scams, “big money” scams foisted onto previous Gens by The System’s own industry. That is one thing that Tyler Perry & Katt Williams have understood correctly: if you want advancement of meaning & integrity, while Nonwhite in the System of Injustice/Racism, you must solve the fundamental problem of R/WS by severing its stranglehold. It was only ever intended to “benefit” one grouping of people, from its inception until now. And if there is one grouping that cannot be imposed-upon, forced-into, bought/begged-into, (except in complete subordination) it is absolutely theirs, no competition.
@antonyhoward8768
@antonyhoward8768 10 ай бұрын
Yes, we need to know this
@danielmcandrew979
@danielmcandrew979 10 ай бұрын
Further support for Ender’s theory is how easy it is to subconsciously or only semi consciously do it. I have no delusions that none of the execs think about this plainly, but many fall to this subconsciously because only if pressed would they admit “you can’t have the black guy win” or “it doesn’t seem realistic unless the black guy loses.” A lot of structural racism can exist because of open status quo bias/fallacy. It’s also part of the pipeline to mask off conscious racism. Great video
@willpeoples
@willpeoples 10 ай бұрын
This Enders theory is a cunning mix of lies and truths. The notion of historical greats being "sacred cows" is a dog whistle for perpetuation of the status quo. It is also error to suggest that "tradition" means anything more than lies agreed upon. Western scholarship has been shameless since its inception. The founder of the Ptolmaic dynasty, a Macedonian, would have never realized the consecration of his royal station without marriage to a woman of the Kemetyu royal lineage. This is a fact. No lilly white Cleopatra is even possible. The great General Hannibal Barca is still yet another that needs to be discovered beyond "tradition".The Carthaginian peoples, both Punic and Phoenician, also of Canaan, naturally knew Hannibal as one of their own. By today's definition an ancient Black people, having raised a still celebrated Black Man.
@zerenamafdet
@zerenamafdet 10 ай бұрын
Feelings gone go ahead and get HURT! BUT the TRUTH MUST BE TOLD! SHAME ON IT ALL!
@princezee5127
@princezee5127 10 ай бұрын
The elephants with which Hannibal crossed the Pyrenees and the Alps in order to invade Italy during the Second Punic War (218-201 BC) belonged to the North African elephant, with the exception of Hannibal's personal animal, Surus (meaning "the Syrian," or possibly "One-Tusker"). This individual, according to his documented name and large size, may have been a Syrian elephant (Elephas maximus asurus), which was possibly a subspecies of the Asian elephant that became extinct shortly after Hannibal invaded Italy, but before the extinction of the North African elephant. So the question is who is on the Etruscan coin? Note*The Etruscan coin is from central Italy, 208-207BCE.
@adamajobe1756
@adamajobe1756 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! I say this all the time. They tell you whos the right one without telling you by also naming barcas personal elephant and it's type. By doing so they're giving away which coinage is the real one and which is fake
@AttaMan
@AttaMan 10 ай бұрын
Everyone knows Hannibal used African elephants. Carthage was in North Africa. Literally NO one disputes this. What’s ridiculous is the idea that simply because someone is from Africa, that means they were black despite the fact Carthage was a state of Phoenician colonizers from the Levant. They only used Indigenous North African peoples as mercenaries, which would be their downfall.
@princezee5127
@princezee5127 10 ай бұрын
@@AttaMan if there were no cameras you would doubt that nelson mandela was black because southafrica was colonised by netherlands and later by britain?
@AttaMan
@AttaMan 10 ай бұрын
@@princezee5127 I can use logical fallacies, too. Watch this: There were no cameras during the American Revolutionary War. Do you think George Washington was Chesapeake Indian because he was born in Virginia which was originally inhabited by Native Americans? What I personally believe or doubt is irrelevant in the face of historical fact. Hannibal Barca was Phoenician and his ancestors were Levantine colonizers who subjugated indigenous North Africans. Stop idolizing them.
@adamajobe1756
@adamajobe1756 10 ай бұрын
@@AttaManLOUD AND WRONG😂. Hannibal's army used African elephants, however Hannibal did not. His own personal elephant has his own history and Wikipedia pages. The elephants name was SURUS and I'll let you do your own research from there. did I ever say that Africa = black? No I didn't. It did in history for a time beforeany invasions and intermixing as well tho.
@renaissanceinblack
@renaissanceinblack 10 ай бұрын
Uh oh. I feel that Cleopatra argument coming on, all over again.
@soda8736
@soda8736 10 ай бұрын
Because black people want to be from North Africa so bad..
@auroraseyets8516
@auroraseyets8516 10 ай бұрын
Ender’s Theory is most certainly intentional. I learned this to be the case as a communications major. Media, all forms, has always been used to push forward a particular narrative. Since the time of European colonization and a bit before (starting, some say, with Shakespeare) it has been used pointedly to push the narrative of so-called “white” superiority. The first well known film “Birth of a Nation” is a full blown propaganda piece that fomented one of the most die-hard terrorists groups to date…. Ender’s Theory may be “dark” but that’s only because the truth really is abominably horrific.
@pinkrebel8412
@pinkrebel8412 10 ай бұрын
That couldn't be more true. Barnes and Noble still sells the movie and the book "Birth Of A Nation" hailing it as the most controversial movie of all time and acknowledging that it lead to the rebirth of the KKK and massacres of black communities. It has however ceases selling Hebrews 2 Negroes book series and movies which offers a biblical interpretation of the Transatlantic Slave Trade and why it was so different from past slavery to epic and biblical proportions.
@hisradiancelordnasty
@hisradiancelordnasty 10 ай бұрын
astute and pointedly correct observation
@sureucan9366
@sureucan9366 10 ай бұрын
Welll whites do create everything and build great civilizations so others can complain about it
@ursamajor6347
@ursamajor6347 9 ай бұрын
If you are not controlling the narrative you don't get to complain. Honestly, we sound like children complaining to their parents. Black people: take control.
@martonyomchale342
@martonyomchale342 10 ай бұрын
The only issue I have with Denzel is Hannibal was 26 at the time of the 2nd Punic war. Now if the movie is going to be about a later point of his life fine. But if not cast a much younger actor like Micheal B Jordan or Mason Gooding.
@theafricachild5773
@theafricachild5773 10 ай бұрын
Damn good catch
@thevisitor1012
@thevisitor1012 10 ай бұрын
I could see them using CGI to make him younger during the 2nd Punic war.
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng 10 ай бұрын
I don't even know this story. I do know this is not a US story. I have no idea why the US is making this story tbh
@Gyamfi
@Gyamfi 10 ай бұрын
okay they got tech..to deal with his age,,,,LOL
@GrandEmporer
@GrandEmporer 10 ай бұрын
It should have been a native AFRICAN actor. Why you trying to supplant yourselves in AFRICAN history?!
@digitaldiamondtv553
@digitaldiamondtv553 8 ай бұрын
Don't tell Denzel to stay in his place... He can do wtf he wants.
@thee_morpheus
@thee_morpheus 4 ай бұрын
If ANYONE has earned their place in Hollywood to do WHATEVER role he sees fit, it's Denzel. He and others of his ilk are Hollywood royalty as far as I'm concerned
@kevlark3184
@kevlark3184 4 ай бұрын
He's just old for the role. Cgi can change that.
@تونسيفينيويورك
@تونسيفينيويورك Ай бұрын
No
@silverking2181
@silverking2181 3 күн бұрын
​@@تونسيفينيويوركYou're not the one to decide, buddy.
@lexingtonconcord8751
@lexingtonconcord8751 2 күн бұрын
​@@kevlark3184 Not just old, he's black. Stop fake black history. Hannibal was NOT even close to black 👍🏻
@iykazorji8171
@iykazorji8171 10 ай бұрын
There's so much truth to what you're saying. Your channel is literally filled with some of the most amazing African stories, many of which unknown to the general public. How big hollywood studios rather shoehorn Black characters in racially ambiguous roles instead of telling authentic African stories is what I'm having a hard time understanding. While there is no evidence of how Hannibal actually looked like, and he was of course darker skinned than the regular Roman, he was a Phoenician, which means he would look closer to modern day Semitic people. It reminds of The Woman King movie, and their depiction of the Dahomey warriors and watering down the truth of their involvement in the slave trade on purpose, so people actually find it out for themselves and continue the unfavorable view of Africans and Africans of the time.
@shafsteryellow
@shafsteryellow 10 ай бұрын
MUTTINES was Hannibals second in command in italy and Hannibals brother Hanno refused to serve under a half breed african. MUTTINES wasnt even half black he was half carthaginan and half berber and they STILL looked down on him. The carthaginans were PHONECIAN colonisers. A half african general specifically berber north african was enough to cause MUTINY amongst the army. How on earth can you imagine that Hannibal was Black when even non black african admixture was deemed to disqualify you from leadership.
@thevisitor1012
@thevisitor1012 10 ай бұрын
@@shafsteryellow Just because Phonecians developed Carthage doesn't mean native Black Africans didn't play a prominent role in their society. For example, a High priestess of Tanit in Carthage was found to be black. "Pittard (1924) notes with surprise the race of the remains found in the Sarcophagus of the Priestess of’ Tanit in Carthage, noting them to be Negroid (see also Bertholon and Chantre, 1913)."
@bayyinahzhaxx7620
@bayyinahzhaxx7620 10 ай бұрын
There are coins with Hanibals' image on them
@xCarbonBlack
@xCarbonBlack 10 ай бұрын
lol modern day semitics are eurasian infiltrators, black people inhabited those lands, it's like saying modern Egyptians are ancient Egyptians, when ancient Egyptians before invasions were black people
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 10 ай бұрын
There is a coin of Hannibal, he is a Black African man. It is from a real picture of him on a coin when he invaded a city.
@Infinite_Guide04
@Infinite_Guide04 10 ай бұрын
To cut It short, just read what Romans described the people of Tunisia.
@shafsteryellow
@shafsteryellow 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@wowowofjfsdfd7349
@wowowofjfsdfd7349 10 ай бұрын
Can you send a source to this very interested in reading.
@Kangz-uz1oh
@Kangz-uz1oh 10 ай бұрын
Black before the religion of Peace showed up.
@Infinite_Guide04
@Infinite_Guide04 10 ай бұрын
@@wowowofjfsdfd7349 Robin walker when we ruled.
@wowowofjfsdfd7349
@wowowofjfsdfd7349 10 ай бұрын
@@Infinite_Guide04 appreciate it will check it out.
@colorbugoriginals4457
@colorbugoriginals4457 10 ай бұрын
in my personal experience, those complaining about an actor's race not being historically accurate do not know or care a whole lot about history in general, they just have a set of loosely related ideas that confirm their biases in their minds.
@matiusbond6052
@matiusbond6052 10 ай бұрын
VERY TRUE,RACISTS DONT WANT TO SEE BLACK PEOPLE EVEN IN ANCIENT BLACK LANDS
@DJsDomain_
@DJsDomain_ 10 ай бұрын
Yes my good sir, and most people are extremely ignorant. Scary ignorant.
@sureucan9366
@sureucan9366 10 ай бұрын
Says the Marxist brainwashed person
@Megadeus0
@Megadeus0 10 ай бұрын
I read about the details of the Hatian slave rebellion a few years ago. It is one of the most remarkable stories in world history, and no one has ever even attempted to bring it to film. I always thought that it was the fact that melanated peoples came together to accomplish greatness against all odds without anyone's help..... They'll NEVER show anyone that.
@hendricktheodule9793
@hendricktheodule9793 10 ай бұрын
Very well said as a Haitian I understand that if a movie does come out so will a lot of questions like why was Haiti force to pay reparations to France and the US, did either nation try to make right their wrongs ??? Hell no !!!!!!! Haiti , the reason there is even a 50 states of America today!!!!!
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
actually, I saw a movie about this story; I think Marlon Brando acted in that movie
@hendricktheodule9793
@hendricktheodule9793 10 ай бұрын
@@TheVinci19 actually BURN was not based in Haiti!!!! In fact it was Haitians that liberated most of South America!
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
@@hendricktheodule9793 Now you told the title, I remembered it, it's about a fictional Portuguese colony, not Haiti. Don't embarrass yourself saying that, anyway. Haitians didn't liberate anyone, but their fight influenced both europeans, that ended slavery after a few years, and slaves and other inhabitants of colonies, inspiring them to fight against what remained of Spanish and Portuguese power
@hendricktheodule9793
@hendricktheodule9793 10 ай бұрын
@@TheVinci19 President Alexandre Pétion understood the significance of the man who led the liberation movement. Pétion offered Bolívar 1,000 rifles, ammunition, and other supplies; he also provided hundreds of Haitian sailors and soldiers who had fought in the Haitian Revolutionary War. The offering came with one condition: Bolívar had to abolish slavery in South America when he founded a new republic; Bolívar agreed. He and his army once again took on Spain - returning to Haiti a second time for assistance - and triumphantly declared Venezuela an independent country in 1821. After later defeating Spain across South America, Bolívar declared himself president of Gran Colombia (present-day Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, and Ecuador), Peru, and Bolivia. Foreshadowing Latin America’s present relationship to Haiti, Bolívar broke his promise to Pétion. Rather than wholly abolishing slavery, Bolívar sought to maintain Latin America’s racial and class heirarchy so that white elites like himself would not fall to a “pardocracia,” a so-called mulatto takeover.
@asmahamidullah9571
@asmahamidullah9571 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this. I was trying to explain to one of my sisters why I don't watch movies with Africans. The dysfunctional family structures with tragic ends. Continue your important work! ❤🇹🇹
@تونسيفينيويورك
@تونسيفينيويورك Ай бұрын
Denzel playing Hannibal is like me playing Martin Luther king, and I’m from Tunisia 🇹🇳 ( Carthage)
@silverking2181
@silverking2181 3 күн бұрын
Do you have any proof Hannibal wasn't black ? We have proof MLK didn't look like you.
@MrRocka12
@MrRocka12 3 күн бұрын
To think they would look like u, waay back then isn’t realistic…
@MrRocka12
@MrRocka12 3 күн бұрын
Northern Africa is moorish land so it’s up for debate
@تونسيفينيويورك
@تونسيفينيويورك 2 күн бұрын
@@MrRocka12 new information??? Berbers and Amazigh people been there for over 20000 years before the moors existed.
@mr.dccomics9018
@mr.dccomics9018 10 ай бұрын
I've been waiting on this. They swear North Africa belongs to them.
@africarib
@africarib 10 ай бұрын
Like we don't know they haven't always been there.
@X-Factor-22
@X-Factor-22 10 ай бұрын
Well, technically it is theirs because of THEFT and very bad decision making from our ancestors( The Kemites) 🤷🏾‍♂️ We invited them in along with the Greeks and have been paying the price since then.
@majorlazor5058
@majorlazor5058 10 ай бұрын
We are supposed to pretend an Arab migration to North Africa never happened. 😂
@X-Factor-22
@X-Factor-22 10 ай бұрын
@@majorlazor5058 Nobody is denying the invasion coming from the Mediterranean because it’s a historical fact. The issue is those people are claiming to be indigenous to North Africa.
@majorlazor5058
@majorlazor5058 10 ай бұрын
@@X-Factor-22 Oh yes. People deny all the time Arabs aren’t indigenous to North Africa. So true.
@RichardAmunRaBey6720
@RichardAmunRaBey6720 10 ай бұрын
Never put ANY TRUST in someone who tells Some Else's Story when their Story is a Lie and when they wrote themselves(EUROPEANS) into His Story
@joevatu4967
@joevatu4967 10 ай бұрын
TRUTH 100%
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng
@JoseMartinez-bh1ng 10 ай бұрын
I agree. Why is the US telling this story? Why in English? What connection does the US have yo this story?
@RichardAmunRaBey6720
@RichardAmunRaBey6720 10 ай бұрын
To further the Hybrid/Troglodytes lies,it's what they do besides cause Destruction everywhere they go.
@bigjake6936
@bigjake6936 10 ай бұрын
Question... how does a group of people who supposedly were robbed of their history and their culture lost for hundreds of years. Now... all the sudden. They are the only ones who know the truth about history. Like... for the greatest general ever... he didn't even accomplish his goal. Some strategic military moves yes. But, Alexander was a true genius.
@sau2949
@sau2949 10 ай бұрын
No educated person claims Hannibal was Europeans, Europeans fought against him, but he was not black this is getting ridiculous, Hannibal was part of an elite of colonizers from modern day Lebanon , the fact that you even want to portrait a colonizer as black just yo steal their thunder is crazy
@jahwadey
@jahwadey 10 ай бұрын
Powerful content to consider. Keep up the great work Home Team History.
@mcvellrobinson9186
@mcvellrobinson9186 10 ай бұрын
Another thing Hollywood would do to Black actors of the 60's.....If the Black character did something heroic or took upon himself a successful leadership role....he was then killed in some way.
@JosephSmejkal
@JosephSmejkal 10 ай бұрын
You are outstanding! Thank you for the edification sir. Well thought out... similar paradigm came to me. You read enough history and ignore propaganda and casuistry, the last 2,000 years of history presents an uncomfortable continuity of entrenched evil, not just inequity. Keep sharing the knowledge! Thank you
@EmmettF.W.
@EmmettF.W. 10 ай бұрын
Barca is my all time favorite historical figure. The fact that Denzel is portraying him brings me a boost of serotonin that makes me feel like I’m going Super Sayian.
@spacebunny4335
@spacebunny4335 10 ай бұрын
I would like to point out that the coin in this video almost certainly doesn't depict Hannibal, as other coins with the same depiction have been found in the area that date to decades before Hannibal was even in Italy.
@Greatful0374
@Greatful0374 10 ай бұрын
I’m here for the theme drum intro, please bring it back. 😮❤
@tcmyric4978
@tcmyric4978 10 ай бұрын
I rather that then slave movies
@feddi7693
@feddi7693 10 ай бұрын
Facts💯🎯👌🏽
@ShaddyRaddy
@ShaddyRaddy 10 ай бұрын
Facts!!!
@Nicksonian
@Nicksonian 6 ай бұрын
We never see portrayed in movies that black Africans were active participants enslaving their own people.
@jameslong9921
@jameslong9921 4 ай бұрын
The atrocities committed against those people unfortunate enough to become enslaved need to be told man thats part of history regardless of how uncomfortable it might make some of us.
@TheWatchersofWisdom
@TheWatchersofWisdom 10 ай бұрын
Great Video I learned a lot that I never really paid much attention to like The Ender's Theory and the Tragic endings, And your narration is on point.
@blackdreamhunk3413
@blackdreamhunk3413 10 ай бұрын
Notice Star Wars John Boygea can't be a Jedi? notice John Boygea chasing the white girl Rey all around but yet Finn can't have a romance thing with Rey? yeah know got to have that The Twilight Saga in space. Notice there are not a lot of black people who can't be leaders or strong males in films? Notice most black Marvel superheroes are sidekicks. Even in Marvel comics Blue Marvel, the creator experienced racism. Some people hate the fact Blue Marvel is a powerful black and strong male character. James Bond can't be black too. In fact, some people hated Obama being a black president when you even think about it.
@thevisitor1012
@thevisitor1012 10 ай бұрын
This probably explains why the first Black Panther movie was so successful. It "broke the mold" or so to speak.
@TheBLACKboard65
@TheBLACKboard65 10 ай бұрын
Obama was not a "Black" president. He is bi-racial having absolutely NO TIES to ADOS lineage and multi-cultural having been raised by an Indonesian step-father. Tell me where ANY of that makes him Black.🤔
@ShadowMan23914
@ShadowMan23914 10 ай бұрын
​​​ @thevisitor1012 Not exactly, they gave us what we wanted on the surface, but delving deeper, the King was stvpid and didn't care for Black people as a whole, The white man (the actual enemy) was made the savoir, and Killmonger the actual hero was made the villain just because his methods and views were seen as extreme even tho what his plans were... were definitely necessary with "Black Freedom" being his goal. He wasn't evil, he only treated brainwashed Blacks as the enemy, I doubt he would've done that to any Black person who wanted the same thing. Even Nat Turner was the same way, if I remember correctly, was he not the same brotha who suggested that anyone who wasn't down with the revolution be kill3d? Wakanda Forever was more of the same bs, just without Black men, and this time the Mexican character the actual enemy was the nonsensical hero.
@draco_1876
@draco_1876 10 ай бұрын
Most Black Marvel Heroes aren’t sidekicks. Black Panther, Blue Marvel, Luke Cage, Blade are all fan favorites who had entire series dedicated to them. Blue Marvel literally defeated a sentry (the same guy that ripped Ares in half).
@ShadowMan23914
@ShadowMan23914 10 ай бұрын
@@draco_1876 Sorry to burst your bubble, but Blade ain't Black, his father Lucas cross is a white man. It's only the TV shows that depict him as a Black man and those depictions aren't canonical.
@habibahas13
@habibahas13 10 ай бұрын
So what ... They can't handle the truth ... Who says life is only about what they can handle???!!!!!!
@jameslong9921
@jameslong9921 4 ай бұрын
Lets face it there is about as much chance finding a person today who could emulate Hanibal Barca as there is in finding a director who could actually film it in a way that was believable.
@JkDibine
@JkDibine 4 ай бұрын
Afro Americans producers are either too lazy and unambitious, uninformed of real African biblical history, once again is victim of the ws elite gatekeepers who decide what pitches go through for a project... Or all of the above
@lewisjohnson8297
@lewisjohnson8297 10 ай бұрын
It is very disappointing that people still have not understood that the "Mediterranean type" is a range that resulted from centuries of mixing throughout the Mediterranean Basin, extending into the Aegean, Adriatic and Ionian Seas. That is a monster mix potential! And, as humans so are, they most definitely tested one another out as partners. The tendency to erect racial boundaries along geographical lines, is pretty much modern foolishness.
@michelliewisdom230
@michelliewisdom230 10 ай бұрын
Your voice is so beautiful. I could listen to you speak all day.
@nobodykilledme9641
@nobodykilledme9641 10 ай бұрын
That was a interesting theory you put forth I have never heard of Enders theory
@signalhilltv5237
@signalhilltv5237 10 ай бұрын
Okay you guys' fact check me. Mariane Pearl who Angelina Jolie Portrays in a mighty heart is black. Andromeda who is portrayed by white actresses in both films would have also been black. Then pay attention to Toussaint Louverture uniform he was a French Republican general first.
@kerriephillips427
@kerriephillips427 10 ай бұрын
You're very intelligent my young brother, great video, keep up the great work.
@UnDark1
@UnDark1 10 ай бұрын
When will they ever make a Haitian Revolution movie?
@waynebaker5720
@waynebaker5720 10 ай бұрын
Tariq Nasheed made one; So therefore it More than likely will not be a Hollywood made movie Because them Haitian straight handed out (L's)
@UnDark1
@UnDark1 10 ай бұрын
@@waynebaker5720 Nope not at all. That movie would go against the narrative of Black people taking Ls all the time. They don’t want Black victories to become habit forming.
@waynebaker5720
@waynebaker5720 10 ай бұрын
@@UnDark1 agreed Perhaps I didn't explain it comprehensibly enough in my first comment. I'd like to see a movie done about Queen Nanny and the Maroons that fought and won against the ws colonizers
@UnDark1
@UnDark1 10 ай бұрын
@@waynebaker5720 we’re both in agreement my friend 👍🏿
@muck1ngfupp3t
@muck1ngfupp3t 10 ай бұрын
No one can say what Hannibal looked like for certain. The problem I have with Denzel playing him is age. Hannibal was 26 at the height of his fame. Don’t think Denzel can pull off 26.
@Aniwazoa
@Aniwazoa 10 ай бұрын
Fascinating theory, I will be looking closer at big budget films with a Black lead going forward!
@Gadman0110
@Gadman0110 10 ай бұрын
It has been awhile I have listened to this sorting voice with so much quality entertaining information❤
@Deezy_Ankh
@Deezy_Ankh 10 ай бұрын
Sicilians told me Hannibal was black when they were trying to get the n word pass. Lol.
@shelanel5348
@shelanel5348 10 ай бұрын
Enders theory.....super interesting. Thank you for what you do; always giving me something to think about and something to learn
@MoreArtThanHuman
@MoreArtThanHuman 10 ай бұрын
Very keen eye and intellect on critically thinking beyond what our school education system requires. You are right and you shouldn't label it as a "controversy" anybody with the same ability to observe and research will reach the same conclusion you brought to us on this platform of thiers. It is their platform, why would they correctly tells us "His-story" especially when it comes to melanated beings. I myself am a descendant of the mighty Haitian people (Tianos, Arawak, West Africans) we bought us the first victory for melanated people in recent times. If I had the funds I would immediately make that film, its such a staple victory for the melanated beings and it should be known worldwide, along with many great nations that we're produce by us and still is being produced by us "first world countries".
@almightyswizz
@almightyswizz 10 ай бұрын
I’m honestly just glad he’s getting a cinema, he’s my absolute favorite person in history I was literally FASCINATED with him as a child, his skin tone doesn’t matter to me he was still from the African continent in origin and his story is part of one that had been neglected for centuries
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
you realize that, by your actual way of thinking, he was a 'colonizer', exactly as the white south africans?
@Liquidsback
@Liquidsback 10 ай бұрын
Since Netfflix is producing, I can already tell you that Alexander Siddig's performance and movie is better.
@almightyswizz
@almightyswizz 10 ай бұрын
@@TheVinci19 I genuinely don’t care, he’s a known colonizer he founded Barcelona
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
@@almightyswizz Carthago itself was a colony. They were colonizers, I meant they were not Africans, but Lebanese
@almightyswizz
@almightyswizz 10 ай бұрын
@@Liquidsback ok thank you I will watch them both I didn’t know he already had movies I’ve only ever read about him and his home town Carthage. The accounts are fantastical almost like a fairy tale but in real life, his travels, treaties & battles… stuff of imagination, voyages through untamed Iberia
@blackrampage2
@blackrampage2 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video
@a.r.tavares1322
@a.r.tavares1322 10 ай бұрын
Very interesting theory, and quite plausible when we take into consideration the "Cultural Hegemony" concept of Antonio Gramsci.
@alkebulanawah4242
@alkebulanawah4242 10 ай бұрын
Haters gonna hate, eff them
@JoanieDoeShadow
@JoanieDoeShadow 10 ай бұрын
One thing Ender's Theory and this video on casting doesn't touch on is the perspective of actors. Actors love a good juicey drama and multilayered characters, tragic figures such as the ones mentioned in this video provides that. There's a reason that white actors have competed for the opportunity to play these tragic figures for generations. The recent Cleopatra adaptation touches on so many things. The producers and director of that series are African American woman who grew up with the belief that Cleopatra being an African Queen = their phenotype. Studying the Hows & Whys of films turning out the way they do is as complex as studying history since there are so many moving parts and individuals with their own desires and goals at play. I would agree that NOT telling stories of unambiguously Black/African historical figures who triumphed (and it not be misery porn) IS an ACTIVE CHOICE by the still predominantly white Hollywood/culture makers. The deliberate choice of omission does shape the lens general audiences view the depictions of Black/African characters, both intentionally and not.
@kennardwaters3410
@kennardwaters3410 10 ай бұрын
Its crazy because i never had the words or evidence to explain this same feeling i had. Even in black panther, the Mexican character destroyed Wanda's leadership and the blacks had to play nice in the end.
@bigboy3454
@bigboy3454 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, brother. Hannibal was definitely Black. If he weren't, there wouldn't be any ambiguity. They only ever apply the veil of ambiguity when the notable figure is definitely Black, and they want to cover it up.
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
there's no ambiguity. He was not black, period. Suddenly you decided that everyone in the world were black, and you call your own delusion 'ambiguity'. Nobody has ever had the littler hint he was black, because Chartaginians, Tunisians, Lebanese, Phoenicians, and the entire present and ancient north africans, have never been black
@maryamkim1281
@maryamkim1281 10 ай бұрын
​@TheVinci19 that sounds like wishful thinking. Africans are not actually strangers to their own continent.
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
@@maryamkim1281 what does it mean? never said that. Africans are not the same. If you said that Finns in ancient times inhabited Sicily, I'd laugh. It's the same: in ancient times, black never inhabited north Africa. I guess you'd like your people had done something remarkable or important, unfortunately it's never happened
@maryamkim1281
@maryamkim1281 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheVinci19ooh. *your people*? Now you're getting emotional. The original inhabitants of the continent in ancient times were black skinned Africans. It's so basic look it up. And stay rational.
@maryamkim1281
@maryamkim1281 10 ай бұрын
​​@@TheVinci19I also hope you're not suggesting ancient indigenous peoples of Northern Africa were actually "white" Europeans?
@sasbridgecloserstudent
@sasbridgecloserstudent 10 ай бұрын
Never thought about this way. Thank you.
@slamben6742
@slamben6742 10 ай бұрын
happy new year to you home team history
@yol.2248
@yol.2248 10 ай бұрын
I think your perspective is an absolute plausible one, very well thought out, and displayed/portrayed. I love the way you even propose some plausible flaws to your theory, but your overall point and depictions are receipts, not just talk! It is sound & believable information. Keep telling our stories with as much receipts as you can come up with, so I can share your well thought out docu/show to others. It it time in 2024 to push our narratives for the truth to the forefront of people’s, seriously brainwashed minds. They all need to know the truth and except it, so balance is restored, with the true history of the oldest people on the planet. There are so many stories about Africans that were glorious, not tragic, and Hollywood needs to wake up with true, accurate depictions of African history. After all they have been here for thousands of years ( Not hundreds, like those who came later) before other cultures were developed and begin to tell their stories , write their books and print their currency, and make statues or busts of their images, thus their history, Africans, already had rich ,thriving lives, were intelligent, and established enough to sail themselves around the world, establishing other civilizations. Keep driving home the truth. We are eager students, still learning some of these truths for the first time. Thank you for your time and effort along with your professionalism, getting this information out here. Yah is guiding you! Yah has blessed you with the talent of teaching the truth!
@emperorthylord
@emperorthylord 10 ай бұрын
We all love jewish people support israel.
@yol.2248
@yol.2248 10 ай бұрын
@@emperorthylord Sorry, you don’t get to make this all about you, (We recognize that you are the converted Jews ) we love all people period! Including you, but especially the Palestinian people right now! We don’t recognize you as the “underdog” in that war.
@emperorthylord
@emperorthylord 10 ай бұрын
@@yol.2248 That was the most anti jewish comment that I could write but you are good soul so bless you.
@Mista_Terrific81
@Mista_Terrific81 10 ай бұрын
Heres what I dont understand, why in the hell are people that are anglo saxon, germanic, frankish, nordic etc pissed about North Africa when it had nothing to do with them? If im not mistaken they were enslaved and colinized by the Romans at the time. The Romans considered them as savages. The Majority of them at the time most likely never even knew that Africa even existed. Not only that, they take all of nothern and Western Europe, lump it all together and claim it as their history but if Africans do the same thing with Africa, they get their panties in a bunch. Anglo Saxon descendants try to force flat "whiteness" on other Europeans, when most Europeans dont see it that way. Anywho......Netflix is definitely going after that ESG money though.
@TrillBill
@TrillBill 10 ай бұрын
Right? Excellent point
@joshuagregoire9504
@joshuagregoire9504 10 ай бұрын
I agree with this comment completely.
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 10 ай бұрын
Ask other Europeans if they are caucasion, and report back to me with what they say.... We know what Cartheginians looked like - see the young man of Byrsa from around 500 BC, he has caucasion genetics. The question should be asked why African Americans are claiming every other culture including the Vikings!
@Mista_Terrific81
@Mista_Terrific81 10 ай бұрын
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 Been there done that! Europeans from all walks are very proud of their ethnicity, especially eastern Europeans and those of Baltic decent; they do not like to be lumped in with Western Europeans. Also, not all Europeans consider themselves Caucasian or Aryan for that matter. I've never heard any person from Sicily call themselves Caucasian. Lastly, it is wp that say you can't tell race by phenotype, as some "Caucasians" are allegedly not white. That being said, wp consistently contradict that statement. It goes back to what I initially said, "white people" don't even know what is white. Everyone seems to have a different opinion or view of what a "white person" is. To a 3rd pty, this shit is confusing......it's bruh....wtf!
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533
@idratherbeaphilthanajustin9533 10 ай бұрын
@@Mista_Terrific81 'I've never heard any person from Sicily call themselves caucasion'... Probably because you haven't asked or could understand one! Ethiopian ruler Haile Selassie claimed to be caucasion - Amhara people have around 50% West Asian ancestry. 'White' this and 'white' that is missing the point somewhat. However, if you can find another description to describe Eurasians due to our similar phenotype I'm all ears. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGalZWiMhsSZsK8si=3OPL4OO7dYstHvOV The fact is that Europeans, Near Easterners and some North African populations are classified as caucasion and are of a 'white' phenotype. For the purpose of the argument of Carthage being a black civilisation, I think it's pretty damn obvious it wasn't.
@kenharp4807
@kenharp4807 10 ай бұрын
Very good work on this theory. Hannibal simply looked like the people of that time in 200 bc everyone in this region were dark peoples period.
@mrsushicut
@mrsushicut 9 ай бұрын
Nope, that's just your deluded mind, trying to compensate your victim mentality by stealing other people history... Instead of rewriting it, maybe you should start writing it, I'm sure there's lot of great people who would deserve a good biopic
@Bullz_eye47
@Bullz_eye47 10 ай бұрын
Let's just enjoy the movie, cmon it's Denzel Washington working with Antoine Fuqua here it's gonna be awesome and epic.
@blazinsaddlez5134
@blazinsaddlez5134 9 ай бұрын
Thank you brothuh. Everything you said I felt or understood it. I just couldn't articulate it. I am very greatful you created this channel!
@duanerackham9567
@duanerackham9567 10 ай бұрын
You know you put a word to something ive been feeling for a while now. Ever since the first black panther. The second black panther really puts it into perspective, that even when they give us representation they still have a hidden agenda to take us down. I believe they even brought back coming to america to make what was a very triumphant story(although a comedy) and make it messy.
@MegaFreedom2006
@MegaFreedom2006 4 ай бұрын
Well at least everyone agrees with the fact that Hannibal and his entire family are born and raised in Carthage ! Now Netflix or Amazon or whatever it is wants Hannibal Black warrior, let them deal with that ! Today there’s something called “genealogy” and the Genealogy confirm that 88% of the nowadays Tunisian are originally North African , and on top of that Tunisian are the 4th least racially diverse people in the world!! So who should we believe? Netflix or Genealogy 🤔 And to add more: at the Carthaginian museum there are plenty of mosaic clearly showing Hannibal he is not a black warrior!! History is History mate !! The Romans did it all to wipe out the history of Carthage but they never succeeded, so you think Netflix can do that ?? I don’t think so. If I tell you Christopher Columbus and Alexander the Great are Chinese and Julio Caesar is from Mongolia ? You will probably laugh at my comments, well this is what we Tunisian doing now with this Netflix series! I don’t have any issues with any nations we are all humans ! But why we fabricate the history?? Doesn’t make any sense. Peace ✌️ to everyone.
@draggoon9121
@draggoon9121 10 ай бұрын
But he was dark skinned African 😮so how and why are they mad?.....
@shafsteryellow
@shafsteryellow 10 ай бұрын
😂😂 He was neither black nor african.
@Gyamfi
@Gyamfi 10 ай бұрын
yes he was dark skinned but not ngro/black...........
@TheLocalStandard
@TheLocalStandard 10 ай бұрын
​@@shafsteryellowYeah, he was a green alien. Deal with Arab, and remove that boy from your profile pic you murdering racist, put your face their.
@missjuneplum1
@missjuneplum1 10 ай бұрын
@@shafsteryellow you are right he was green from Greenland. 😂😂😂😂😂
@sau2949
@sau2949 10 ай бұрын
​@@missjuneplum1he was from middle east, they invaded and colonized modern dar Tunisia, do Americans even read
@marielawson459
@marielawson459 10 ай бұрын
I am glad you went with this is your opinion! And leave it at that!
@mikejam991
@mikejam991 10 ай бұрын
One of the most fascinating vids ever...great stuff....thought provoking and enlightening
@RoverDover25
@RoverDover25 10 ай бұрын
The coin you mentioned is Etruscan. It is wrong to assume it’s Hannibal because we know the Barca family is an imperial Punic Dynasty from Phoencia and we have the coins of his father, Hamilcar, and his brother, Hasdrubal - both phenotypes of a near easterner. The coin you referenced is depicting an obscure figure lost to history, likely minted before the time of Hannibal. Your Enders Theory is quite convincing though. Until I see an accurate representation of a black historical figure overcoming obstacles, you may be right.
@ynraider
@ynraider 8 ай бұрын
Private auction coin of Hasdrubal had "DREADLOCKS" and "Nubian crease". Entire family was SUBSAHARAN phenotypes. Hannibal was the product of 300yrs of Royal BLACK LIBYAN ADMIXTURE!
@MrSamres
@MrSamres 10 ай бұрын
At one time in history, the Arabs even referred to the parts of Africa they later dominated as Balad A Sudan: “Land of the Blacks”…in spite of the previously long periods of Persian, then Greco-Roman rule! Consequently, it’s more likely Hannibal was Black than not! Considering Ender’s Theory…the overwhelming evidence proves the theory is actually a fact! 💯
@Liquidsback
@Liquidsback 10 ай бұрын
Yes, that was to the more Southern lands, just like how lands south of Libya, Atlas and Egypt were reffered to as Aethiopia (burnt faced people by the Greeks) Hannibal was a Punic, Carthage was Phoenician, with the city name being from the Latin variation of the Phoenician qrt-ḥdšt (𐤒𐤓𐤕 𐤇𐤃𐤔𐤕‎) meaning "New City". The Phoenicians and Greeks colonized the Mediterranean and calling Carthage native African, would be like calling the city of Massilia "Gaulish" just because it was located in Modern Marseilles, despite being a Ionian Greek colony.
@thevisitor1012
@thevisitor1012 10 ай бұрын
@@Liquidsback It seems that at one point Black people predominated North Africa as well. “The Berber women are from the island of Barbara, which is between the west and the south. *Their color is mostly black* though some pale ones can be found among them. If you can find one whose mother is of Kutama, whose father is of Sanhaja, and whose origin is Masmuda, then you will find her naturally inclined to obedience and loyalty in all matters, active in service, suited both to motherhood and to pleasure, for they are the most solicitous in caring for their children. “ - Ibn Battuta
@TheVinci19
@TheVinci19 10 ай бұрын
I wonder in what period of time a Lebanon people may become black. And how come all those black north africans are disappeared. I mean, Romans, Greeks, Persians, Arabs, never noticed black people in north Africa, you believe they all were blind?
@maryamkim1281
@maryamkim1281 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheVinci19ignorant jokes, again. Why not read some of the ancients' writings. You'd have to revise your thoughts.
@maryamkim1281
@maryamkim1281 10 ай бұрын
​​@@TheVinci19and no, black North Africans never disappeared. You just don't want to see them. Or just pretending they don't exist. And it's Lebanese, not "Lebanon people".
@beatworldrecords6080
@beatworldrecords6080 10 ай бұрын
No film of John Horse either. Good theory.
@eXclusive1
@eXclusive1 Ай бұрын
Reading the comments is quite entertaining. Truth be told it is not our media therefore they won't display us actively suceeding in any instance.
@thee_morpheus
@thee_morpheus 4 ай бұрын
But John Wayne as Genghis Khan, Jake Gyllenhaal as Prince of Persia...no issues there, no sirrrr reee!
@Bbydunn28
@Bbydunn28 10 ай бұрын
Honestly it doesn't matter to me anymore. These directors feel a need to do this now for some reason. I think they make decisions like this just to gain attention for the show or movie. At least for this the chance he was black is legitimate, and Denzel Washington is a very good actor so it probably wont be terrible. At this point for me as long as the history is correct and the story good I personally don't care.
@opakular
@opakular 10 ай бұрын
That's an intriguing theory and it aligns well with my suspicion that Hollywood feels more comfortable seeing black people losing. This might explain why momentous events in history where black people won battles and wars against outsiders have yet to reach the small and big screens. The Haitian Revolution, the Battle of Kitombi where two Bakongo kingdoms repelled a Portuguese attempt to conquer Kongo, the Kongolese defeat of a Portuguese army resulting in the return of Kongolese captives pressed into overseas slavery, the Kandace that repelled a Roman invasion, the Nubian archers that turned back successive Arab incursions, the Marron's fight against the British. These were successful African military victories that should be cinematized.
@pretzelstick320
@pretzelstick320 10 ай бұрын
I agree that these are all interesting stories that should be put to film, particularly the Haitian revolution. However, if your goal is to simply relish in the depiction of “blacks vs whites” in the Haitian revolution, you should understand that the Haitian revolution was a lot more complicated than that.
@opakular
@opakular 10 ай бұрын
@@pretzelstick320 Yes it was, which makes it all the more epic, because the conflict was not always race based, although race powerful underlay the conflict.
@SteveMichaelSmith
@SteveMichaelSmith 10 ай бұрын
We do need to think about how black actors are cast in roles for large Hollywood productions. Anyone who has ever tried to act in any theatre production knows how hard it is to get cast in a meaningful , substantial roles. Perhaps we should be grateful for Denzel Washington to have this role because it is not the final destination but a step along the way to greater acceptance of black actors in Hollywood. I am thinking of Kirk Russell or Issur Danielovitch Demsky in the 1960 role of Spartacus. He acted under an alias because The United States was not friendly to a leading man whose last name was Demsky. Michael Douglas , Kirk Douglas' son never went back to being Demsky, either. Denzel Washington got to keep his original name and he is getting substantial leading roles. He has been in the industry for over 40 years . What has he learned?
@emperorthylord
@emperorthylord 10 ай бұрын
I love jewish people and hollywood
@HannibalWuzwhite
@HannibalWuzwhite 5 ай бұрын
You people are babied and pampered by the white liberal, always given things but its never enough. Given awards, given all sorts of jobs, given priority for many services, always given and never earning.
@memyself4ever1
@memyself4ever1 10 ай бұрын
Gods of Egypt bombed at the box office because we as a society are more aware of African culture. People were butt-hurt at Barbarians Rising with the accurate portrayal of Hannibal. Carthage is what is now Tunisia which is a country in Africa!
@Amber_Aquarius
@Amber_Aquarius 10 ай бұрын
Makes me think about the story line of the movie Carmen Jones. Not a historical story but fits the same tragedy narrative I think.
@ursamajor6347
@ursamajor6347 9 ай бұрын
Carmen jones was based on the Opera carmen by Georges Bizet. Carmen died in that original version too. That said, Hannibal Barca was still Blacks and whyte supremacists, like all psychopaths, are still insecure.
@Yungdiogenes
@Yungdiogenes 10 ай бұрын
He was of Phoenician anstery. Phoenicians were described as copper, bronze, or red. He prolly wasn't Denzel dark, but I'm more concerned with the acting.
@End-Result
@End-Result 10 ай бұрын
I.e. levantine / semitic
@pretzelstick320
@pretzelstick320 10 ай бұрын
Or the fact that Hannibal is supposed to be young
@daviousking3828
@daviousking3828 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for what you do
@shadowess1961
@shadowess1961 10 ай бұрын
If you have to keep hammering to another group of people that no matter what they do, they will lose or, that they have no worth, it means you fear that group of people because you at your core are jealous of them because you see their greatness and feel inferior to that group of people. Otherwise, you'd just chill and live happily, like us. It's sad really. As for Othello and Macbeth, it's Shakespeare. Most actors want to play those characters as a test of their craft. Hannibal is being done by Antoine Fuqua(sp) so I think he wants a portrayal of Hannibal that seems plausible. Great video.
@sureucan9366
@sureucan9366 10 ай бұрын
Hard to be jealous of someone or something that has never accomplished anything....just sayin
@luana2778
@luana2778 10 ай бұрын
​@@sureucan9366the level of obssession your people have over our every move is insane. I wonder what kind of mental illness you people have that you can't stop thinking about us.
@apologiaromana4123
@apologiaromana4123 9 ай бұрын
A black Hannibal is not plausible
@lauwilliams-hn8qs
@lauwilliams-hn8qs 9 ай бұрын
1000% accurate. The Shakespearean phrase, "The lady doth protest too much, methinks," perfectly encapsulates this. Overdoing a denial with a degree of guilt.
@shadowess1961
@shadowess1961 8 ай бұрын
@@apologiaromana4123 Sure.
@senator1295
@senator1295 7 ай бұрын
Denzel Washington was a Phoenician ...you can tell by his name
@jlthekid
@jlthekid 10 ай бұрын
I would have to agree with your hypothesis of enders theory. When I think about the notable Afro-descendant figures throughout history and how they only get big budget movies when the "main character" or subject scoure of the story have to end in tragedy. It's like the victories of the Ancestors can only be found in text not film. I would like to test this theory socially somehow. Great video!
@teeldd
@teeldd 10 ай бұрын
Haitian Revolution and the Kandake Queens would be incredible!!! Can we also get one on Aboubakar II sailing to the Americas in the 1300s? Mansa Musa's Hajj? Askia Muhommad of Songhai? Yacub, the great scholar of Abyssinia?
@matthewramsay1190
@matthewramsay1190 10 ай бұрын
I think it would have been useful to demonstrate a few of the "sacred cows" with happy endings. I can't think of many. And if there aren't many "sacred cows" with happy endings to begin with, then that could somewhat diminish Ender's Theory. It seems ever since the Greek muse of tragedy entered the scene, we've all been overly enamored with the tragic hero as opposed to the hero with the happy rainbow ending. I'm honestly not sure if making some those tragic heroes black is a malicious conspiracy.
@yangasidziya3245
@yangasidziya3245 10 ай бұрын
It kills black people's self esteem tho
@thepresentgod
@thepresentgod 10 ай бұрын
This is so lovely. Nice and accurate buildup to details.
@tubeygoku
@tubeygoku 10 ай бұрын
The Romans called Hannibal "Afer". He was black case closed. Spread this fact to shut down any naysayers.
@artpatron719
@artpatron719 10 ай бұрын
Well done… plus you got the perfect voice.
@RonaldAnthony-h3h
@RonaldAnthony-h3h 10 ай бұрын
These people know there are coins of Hannibal showing him as an African on one side and and elephant on the other.
@Liquidsback
@Liquidsback 10 ай бұрын
Hasdrubal's coin would like a world..
@soda8736
@soda8736 10 ай бұрын
Does the coin say Hannibals name on it?
@svampen7782
@svampen7782 9 ай бұрын
There is no proof that its Hannibal on the coin. NONE. Ur lying to yourself and others to try to steal a historically great figure. And hey even if he was "Black" do you think he would go "Ahh my african brother" or "Hey you none Carthaginian Scum DIE". Cringelord6000.
@habibahas13
@habibahas13 10 ай бұрын
Many couldn't handle the fact that Queen Charlotte was gorgeously melanated !!! We make up 89% of The Earth ... We are a Magnificent Culture!!! We've always had to tolerate their lies, it's alright for them to accept/tolerate Our Truths!!!!
@verdeoaks6159
@verdeoaks6159 7 ай бұрын
Stop saying we. Stop grouping everyone together. You aren’t helping with this.
@MP-ju6sz
@MP-ju6sz 10 ай бұрын
Well said!
@khnumkhufu5761
@khnumkhufu5761 6 ай бұрын
But indeed, human life itself does have a tragic end. Unless life extension is pushed forward, we all have a horrid fate. Death.
@rickyreward226
@rickyreward226 10 ай бұрын
Hannibal was black Ask the russians who knew the story. Unchanged from western propaganda. They even named their own (Ethiopian Hannibal) because the first Hannibal in this film was known as a black man all over the world. Not arab but Ethiopian which was the name of black Africans at that time.
@tabinekoman
@tabinekoman 10 ай бұрын
Hannibal Barca is Chinese. His real name is Han Zi Ba.
@Happen0G
@Happen0G 10 ай бұрын
Why are some people insulted and angered by the idea that Hannibal was a black African man?
@tandekabottoman9386
@tandekabottoman9386 10 ай бұрын
Because Hannibal was Phoenician not African . Carthagians are literally Phoenician colonisers of Tunisia
@sau2949
@sau2949 10 ай бұрын
Because he was neither black nor african, is like saying the white in south Africa are black Africans because they colonized the territory. Go read about him and you'll understand that ethnically he was middle eastern
@tomzhouschannel968
@tomzhouschannel968 10 ай бұрын
Because that's not what he was.
@Happen0G
@Happen0G 10 ай бұрын
@@tomzhouschannel968 because you say so doesn't qualify as fact.or explanation. Rather gaslit deficiency crying for attention.
@andrewkundya7324
@andrewkundya7324 10 ай бұрын
​@@tomzhouschannel968was Jesus white Caucasian???
@lbushquizeanic1
@lbushquizeanic1 10 ай бұрын
Surprising stories of historical African people, their culture, and their contributions to the world are well overdue.
@jahwadey
@jahwadey 10 ай бұрын
Hancock = The Black Superman portrayed as an ancient drunk of mysterious orgins
@the_feisty_vegan_llc
@the_feisty_vegan_llc 10 ай бұрын
Awe, I miss the extended intro! Nice work.
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 10 ай бұрын
There is a Coin of Hannible, it was from when Hannible invaded a city. It shows Hannible as a Black African man. His hair & lips are cleary of African origin.
@Liquidsback
@Liquidsback 10 ай бұрын
No confirmation of that being Hannibal.
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 10 ай бұрын
@@Liquidsback Actually it is. It is a direct portrait taken when Hannibal entered an Italian city. Look it up before spewing nonsense. smh
@bda8267
@bda8267 10 ай бұрын
​@@calicoesblue4703No it not you dolt there is no confirmation that coin is Hannibal Barca and you know that😢😢😢
@Liquidsback
@Liquidsback 10 ай бұрын
@@calicoesblue4703 Yet it looks nothing like the confirmed coin of Hadsdrubal who was his brother.
@calicoesblue4703
@calicoesblue4703 10 ай бұрын
@@Liquidsback Yet, there was literally never a real portrait of his brother. smh. So before spewing nonsense, get your facts right.
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