Honda CBR1000RR-R Fireblade S Dyno

[@shingod700]

Can’t wait for the CBR1000RR-R-SP-R-SER-Black-R-Edition RR

[@hyperlink3113]

Don't forget to throw carbon in there!

[@paramesh22r48]

Stop giving them ideas😂

[@roadrash76]

Sounds like a Pirate with a speech impediment.

[@l1wolf]

lmao

[@DB-fn3fz]

CBR1000RR-R-RC__-SP3-MC__-V

[@blakebiggs1065]

Completely neutered. Bren Tuning just finished their reflash (against huge obstacles) and got 200hp on a 171hp baseline. Honda’s keeping all the horses in the stall.

[@lametraserillos1]

true !!

[@Baltimoreborn]

Finally an accurate Dyno my bike after bren tune with stock exhaust and air filter etc. made 187.5 That was a 20 wheel horsepower gain overstock

[@erikj6128]

Emissions is really screwing these machines over hard, the governor kicks in so early and stops it from making any noticeable power after 12k. Would love to see an unrestricted comparison afterward.

[@michelhadid]

Just watch the european model dynoed. They make over 200 to the tire with peak power at redline. Huge difference

[@erikj6128]

@@michelhadid I bet they do. Crazy numbers for a street bike for sure

[@tumdeax]

@@erikj6128 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHbakKqZpq-Indk

[@rzu7120]

@@michelhadid DON’T TELL GRETA!

[@tumdeax]

@@monkeyCmonkeyDoo tell that to the uploader, I didn't do the dyno run.

[@THEelduderino]

We’ve gotten numb to dyno #’s, look at the peak, then look @ comments. 140HP @ the crank used to be insane, now 165 @ the wheel & complaints still exist. Less than 10% of buyers will ever see this bikes true limits, impossible to get near it on street, enjoy these times; there r soo many awesome bikes out there! I’ll take 1 of all

[@brocklndrs]

Its the same with cars, i don't get it, most people wouldn't be able to handle that amount of power anyway even with all the electronic nannies, people just like to talk

[@StrykerV8]

I think criticizing is valid when the company claims 214 horsepower at the crank. And it's also valid when competitors are making 190+ at the wheel.

[@jenniferreyes4986]

@@StrykerV8 this blade is the usa variant, honda claim 188hp on this usa variant. Pls do ur research before spitting bullshits

[@jenniferreyes4986]

@@StrykerV8 the 215hp claim that u mentioned was the europian and world variant of fireblade hitting 195-203hp on the dyno, honda tuned that fireblade down to pass the bullshit emission rules on the usa

[@cipher2508]

Sir U have my upvote

[@coolstorybro9946]

00:53 - OMG from 5000RPM the power starts to kick in!

[@aeror115]

I like this machine! Thank’s for sharing the dyno numbers

[@RaacingAce]

FastBike magazine measured 195hp at crank at 13700rpm, 10hp less then RSV4 1100 and S1000RR. Honda claims 186hp for US model, so 166hp at rear wheel +18hp for typical transmission =183hp at crank is OK.

[@jacegdisis3720]

With a tune and exhaust they can make 211hp

[@JardaniBosvich]

MCU Innovations has the Master Tool for tuning the RR-R SP, he’s licensing it for specific tuners.

[@SpecR961009]

Below my expectations

[@rzu7120]

Hey Cycle World, how much does California gasoline hurt performance?

[@f270]

California sells 91 octane and you can make decent power with that. This bike is making so little power because the ecu is very restricted.

[@rzu7120]

@@f270 Isn’t it 91 octane ethanol?

[@tumdeax]

@@rzu7120 All fuel in the USA has ethanol, no greater than 10% by volume.

[@rzu7120]

@@tumdeax Do you live in the U.S? You need to get out more. I fill up my car and motorcycle with ethanol-free gasoline almost every time. Download an app called “Pure Gas”. It will tell you where the ethanol-free locations are.

[@tumdeax]

@@rzu7120 I've never once found pure gas anywhere where I live. Not that it matters much for my little VW Tiguan since its DI.

[@sburns2421]

Never knew the RRRR-R-SP had a back seat and passenger pegs. Odd choice by Honda

[@Dan-56]

I’ve often seen passenger pegs on what would seem “inappropriate” motorcycles. I wonder if it has anything to do with how the bike is “classified” for the home market (?) Does it somehow effect import or insurance regulations? Good question for the manufacturers 😉.

[@romainblanchet331]

Why is there so much difference between the dyno test and what Honda tells us ? shouldn't be 214hp ?

[@hphirehs]

cuz honda limiting their ECU for RR-R

[@djjd3027]

What's weird is it seemed to take off at just after 5k but their is a torque drop just after 5k but at 6k the HP seems to take off.

[@SF-jp6qy]

... with a small slope, because rpms are going up. When torque goes up again, hp slope increases.

[@siegfriedz8211]

Can someone explain me how it can be so much lower than the HP and torque announced on the official tech sheets ?:/

[@harrybyrnethefifth744]

It’s simple all the emissions control from the EPA and California clean idle chokes out these motors so they can’t breathe, so when you adjust the engine governor and put aftermarket pipes like the yoshimura (which sounds incredible on these 1000 Honda’s Yamahas and Suzukis) it will make more power because the bike can then breathe and sound good as hell.

[@nickthequick]

Ignore the reply from Harry. The correct answer is that the performance number you get from the official spec sheets is horse power and torque measured on the crank. Here you see the (real life) powers as they are transferred to the wheel and tyres (usually around 5%-10% loss in drivetrain and much more in a car)

[@siegfriedz8211]

@@nickthequick alright i get it thank you ;)

[@megapet777]

I have noticed that literally every bike on this channel is underpowered somehow. I used to watch dyno videos of enduro bikes and they had ridiculously low numbers, but always on other channels the horsepower figures are much higher. I think their dyno is just fucked up.

[@KCadbyRacing]

@@siegfriedz8211 Both answers are correct but the chokes out Harry mentioned is the ECU partially closing down the throttle blades at high rpm (starting at 12,000 where you see the power and torq falling off on the graph)...

[@nianmaeng9859]

HONDA SPORT RACING. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 #powerfull i'ts amazing.

[@sophonchan4402]

Aprilia RSV4……”hold my beer”

[@xavierbell4541]

What’s really a shame is how expensive it’ll be (possibly illegal) to just buy an European spec version and bring it over to the states instead of buying this diluted version they trying to sell here, not that you will really need the extra 25-30hp but it just feels wrong paying full price for half the product🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Krishnendu792]

Xactly

[@TheMachRider]

Just so what we’ve all been doing for years- get a flash for a couple hundred bucks and you get all that power and more. You wouldn’t need the entire ecu. Last generation bike jumped almost 20hp in the same way.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

Hits Vtec around 7.5 or 8. I guarantee you with a full exhaust and one of those fancy filters that Chris Moore uses, he can get 185 out of one of these, maybe even 190. And THAT'S playing with the big boys in terms of power (GSXR and ZX10) PLUS it seems to still have that Honda torque.

[@Huntbk5]

Stop pls the bs u can't go by one dino .3 deferent dino tuned or flash reality is this is most realistic dino . The only monster that I know GOD of SS bikes is V4 2023 homicidal bike that not only looks good but destroy most if not all bikes which even in stock form 196 out box that why I got it .cuz not many can afford 40k cash .what ducati was given most of Japanese will never achieve as much as they try including s 1000rr which stole suzuki gsxr 1000r engine but still want be ducati 😅 Chris Moore is great tuner that know how to manipulate dino and make ppl believe that 163 hp 2022 zx 10r after flash makes 198hp with just 300$ which is a fairy tale for broke ppl that got big ego 35 hp LOL same BT moto another bs 2023 s 1000rr 178 hp made 205 😅 that for dummies.

[@progste]

There is clearly something wrong here, the power was even decreasing after 12k rpm while Honda declares peak power at 14k.

[@saisr1]

There are different ecu for US vs Euro and for whatever reason the euro keeps pulling. Makes about 20 more hp. Apparently us restrictions are worse than euro5.

[@pravesh736]

@@saisr1 yeah. California especially. Some bikes run so lean it's beyond oxygen sensors reading so they just remove it. 😂

[@marcusgeorge1825]

Bugger all below 8,000 rpm. Honda has significantly changed the blade. I guess they want to win races at the expense of “real world conditions”... Where the blades of old (that weren’t “race bikes”) just pulled from low and just kept climbing (with a nice flat torque curve). 👍😎🇦🇺

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 which ones today?

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 yeah, no. Thanks for the link just the same. 👍😎🇦🇺

[@pravesh736]

Rrr is different from rr. Rrr wsbk homologation special sales. Not a rr blade replacement, new rr is in the works.

[@marcusgeorge1825]

@@pravesh736 Yes. But it is still different to the outgoing model and much different to what the original design spec and requirements were. A light weight, highly powerful (usable) road bike that was better than all of the WSB bikes at the time of launch! Better than Honda’s own homologated WSB bike!

[@Drunken_Hamster]

So what's the lightest fuel injected fireblade that can get me 150-160 with full exhaust, filter/airbox mod, and a dyno tune (reflash/remap)? I know brakes on any literbike will be good, so, I'm not worried about brakes and suspension. Besides, if need be, any of those can be changed.

[@mdd4855]

Why Japanese motorcycles do not perform well on the dyno test but perform better on the road

[@rafaellastracom6411]

Looks like the timing is being cut back once you get to 12k. Any idea why?

[@-DC-]

Wow Euro model's are in a different league to what they are selling to US customers.

[@ampm9771]

EU models are even more restricted.

[@rockafella1690]

@@ampm9771 Look at the power numbers.

[@johnnyblaze1372]

@@ampm9771 us Bikes has les power

[@calculator8622]

euro model can produce 195-203bhp

[@johnnyblaze1372]

@@calculator8622 not on the wheel

[@johnjohnny2002]

Mantap ini mesin!!

[@grabir01]

Nice.. What does a ZX14 make?

[@BorisZX6R]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6Gxd5WwrKl2qdU

[@MCGMB]

HP limited at 12k. Bummer.

[@MC-Racing]

you are right, its so easy to see the kink in the curve, but just get it flashed, im sure it will put out easy 25 hp more :-)

[@Jose.LQ6]

@@MC-Racing 30+ I would say. It has an insane engine

[@bobaslavefett111]

All these big 200 plus HP numbers claimed by the factories are usually BS. Even factoring in the 10-15% drive train loses they are way off. My 2020 super duke r claims 180hp but puts down 170 to the wheel.

[@RaacingAce]

@@bobaslavefett111 FastBikes mag measured 195HP for new blade, all this numbers by japanes in last 10 years was BS, only BMW claimed true figures.Why Aprilia and Ducati make 1100cc? Because they can't compete with a BMW with a 1000cc engine

[@xavierbell4541]

They cripple the shit outta this bike to comply with US emission standards, there’s no ECU flash available for this bike as of yet but it’s only a matter of time, once properly flashed this new engine is definitely capable of 200+ bhp with a full exhaust system (although stock one is great)

[@mociczyczki]

should be more its some restricted verison or something i quees honda claim 217 bhp at 14500 rpm at crank so like at least 190 hp at the wheel this bike have 10-15% less :x than should have.

[@ampm9771]

Yeah, Honda claims. It's just a claim. Inline4 is a weak engine.

[@mociczyczki]

@@ampm9771 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aniWhqivrNGCeaM inline 4 hae small to do with weakness or strenght :x like you see hear stock 2020 clock 203 bhp at the whell vs hear 165 bhp at the wheel its not just error which can be like 1-2 bhp maybe nothing more :x .im know that in usa alot bike out with some restriction like kawa zx1o from thsi what im remeber also have some restirction and dont pump as much horsepower as european or japan setup but offcorsse small upgrade in software or exhaust depend how they restrocted specifieed vehicle and you have full power:x also peak pwoer for 2020 cbr should be higher than at 12 k rpm something choke power at high rpm in this bike :x

[@ampm9771]

@@mociczyczki This bike doe's put 203whp anywhere, not in US, not in EU, not on Mars. Honda cannot and will never produce an inline4 bike that puts out 200hp at the wheel and doesn't explode after two laps. Panigale V4S hardly puts out 200hp at the wheel and that's a race machine. Inline4 with spring valves is a weak engine. This fireblade puts out its real world hp.

[@mociczyczki]

@@ampm9771 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXXcan94jNKVd8U 195 whp :x panigale v4s clock 199 whp 2% more :x and its not MARS get real those number which show cycle world are from mars maybe in this case :x .,

[@mociczyczki]

@@ampm9771 www.motocykl-online.pl/testy/Litrowe-superbike-i-test-siedmiu-motocykli-sprotowych-na-sezon-2020,14433,2 in this test its motorrad test translate on polsih language :x anyway duc v4s clock les bhp than cbr so we have now how much 3 to 1 that cycle world have restricted version or something intentionally change ;) numbers dont lie :x like you see hear honda have worse elasticue in group for egzample v4s ealsticity from 100to 140 km/h is 2,8 sec vs cbr 4,2 sec but at race v4s clock 1,5 vs cbr 1,3 sec well those stuff have also alot to do with aero weight distribution etc just mention ;) .that in theur test honda was not slower and was not punp less bhp than vv4s it have only weak elasticity :x .hodna sacrifice lowand midrange rpm for strong peak power coampre to older cbr for road its worse setup because you need hld higher rpm and more shifting i mean this new one however when somebdoy want ride rally fast old one dont have to much to say comapre to new version :x. once you exceed in new cbr 11-12 k rpm 2019 cbr is history :x

[@SavioureG]

....I can't afford this..

[@diegomeoni7739]

fra ma perché in ripartenza

[@iodineclip]

Ive seen old zx10r makes 180whp. Clearly theres something wrong here.

[@mociczyczki]

its usa restricted verison vs stock europe vverison clock 213 at crank and 195 around at the whell ...

[@angry_genius]

Wow

[@dute007]

std or sae?

[@pahwasaki9389]

Sounds like a 600 ...a bigger 600

[@tommyg6826]

Lmao

[@kwjr.9569]

Ummm. I'd live with that.

[@serch5921]

Triumph Tiger 900 please

[@FawazKc-hu1xu]

Is it fake that it's got more than 200 HP ?

[@meppie1922]

Nah, something is wrong with their Dyno man. Others did get above 200 HP.

[@cieje34]

Nothing a tune can't fix

[@Jose.LQ6]

There's no flash available for this bike

[@Harry-sw1wi]

@@Jose.LQ6 For real?

[@MCGMB]

$28.5k and you have to spend more to hack the ECU to go above 165 HP? Nah, many competitors don't require that, why Honda?

[@cieje34]

Try magnum tuning

[@rogerhundley9490]

BMW’s are the same way. Much better in Euro tune. Huge flat spot in the US version. Spend 20k + on a bike then void your warranty to make it perform like it should.

[@meppie1922]

There must be something wrong with your setup dude. This bike has 217 HP which is way less than what you show here..

[@jacegdisis3720]

217 to the crank, and emissions but yea 160 whp isn’t right

[@samuelgoncalvesdejesusjesu5158]

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[@badass1g]

Needs to be tuned bad!

[@onaibahmad7114]

Why do the company claims 210+Hp?🙄

[@jenniferreyes4986]

This is the usa fireblade variant, the *215hp claim that u mentioned was the europian and world variant of fireblade hitting 195-203hp on the dyno, honda tuned that fireblade down to pass the bullshit emission rules on the usa

[@mociczyczki]

@@jenniferreyes4986 if this true than thats just as i though :x and some bullsh.ter try to tell me that spring vale is limit thats why it can produce only 165 WHP :D.

[@makuruii]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3auiX2QfbCFiZY

[@CurtisBrandt]

That’s a shame.

[@aluisious]

165hp is fucking lame. You could get that 20 years ago.

[@BOBAABAILEY]

what is so funny to me but im sure not to the buyer how this 25,000 machine puts out less hp then my 08 zx10r does ,some thing wrong with this picture waste of money...all your paying for is electronics,,,,,,,,,SMART MOVE...

[@andreapescarolo]

la mia mappata 209 cavalli

[@nianmaeng9859]

HONDA SPORT RACING.

[@cikgu_tadika]

Cbr1000rrr unlock 205 hp on wheels

[@quantum_entangled_tardigrade]

CBR1000RRR-R ...each 'R' adds 5-horsepower.

[@makuruii]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3auiX2QfbCFiZY

[@nickthequick]

That's one of the ugliest torque curves I've ever seen

[@r0hx227]

so untuned its slower than my bike got it.

[@fattymcgee123]

overall, that's pretty ugly. wtf is going on before 8k and after 12... brutal.

[@ampm9771]

This bike is at least 50whp down on power compared to V4S and that makes you wonder how is it that the underpowered inline4s in WSBK can compete with V4s and even win, it makes you wonder how...... Just look how rough the gear change is and Honda asks almost the same price as V4s is sold for. Verdict? yet another crappy inline4 good only for loud pipes to do rev bombing.

[@marinosg15]

Becase is clear you don't know in usa the motorcycles is underpowered and with serious restrictions compared with bikes in Europe I just remind you.. This bike shows in Europe's dynos 198-202hp in rear wheel stock what you say about that?

[@ampm9771]

@@marinosg15 There is no way in hell this can put out 202hp at the wheel. Those numbers are just marketing gimmicks.202 at the wheel you are talking about 220hp. Panigale V4s hardly make that kind of power. Japanese are very good at advertising and giving you all kinds of numbers. This bike in the most optimistic situation pits out 185hp at the wheel and that provided the bike makes really 200+hp at the crank. There is not a single inline4 bike can put out 200 wheel horsepower. That's motogp territory 😅 If this inline4 screamer could put out that much power, nobody would be able yo ride it. I don't believe any of that marketing crap. 202hp at the wheel is nothing more than pure fantasy 😅

[@ampm9771]

@@liberals_destroy_everythin2497 Nah I passed puberty long ago, I just don't buy this marketing BS that a weak and mechanically inefficient inline4 engine puts out those numbers. What we see here is about the right number an inline4 puts out without blowing up. 😅 CBR puts out max 180-185whp. Then again Japanese bike fanboys live in fantasy land.

[@jenniferreyes4986]

This guy was the real japanese brand hater. He is the real bullshit

[@ampm9771]

@@jenniferreyes4986 Sorry for hurting your fantasy world of inline4 power, but fact is fact. Japanese bike makers sell bikes with the help of KZbinrs and journalist instead of real R&D and Honda is no exception. They realised long time ago how important it is to convince the fanboys through advertising instead of spending money on real R&D.