Honda CRF250L Weight Reduction

In this episode I embark on a mission to reduce the weight of my Rally. I have received no money or free products for making this video it was all on my own budget of around $500USD.
Items used:
Skyrich lithium ion battery HJTZ7S-FP
TST Industries CRF250L Fender Kit
Delkevich 13" Tri-Oval Slip On
There's a glitch with the title around the 5:36 mark, it should read 9.7oz

[@christianalbright1288]

i subscribed because of the 12 lb dump comment

[@D3VTec]

x2. Considering buying a CRF300L and Matto is like me, only funnier, better looking and takes normal poops.

[@andydrummer3754]

Me too. Lol.

[@miguelangelaldrete7944]

Same!

[@upthesaturation]

same lol

[@tempk490]

Dude, your videos are excellent and your presenting is top notch. This channel is criminally undersubbed.

[@MikeQuain]

This is such a well produced and written video for a little channel. Subbed!

[@infernalcontraptions]

Great video. Stumbled across this because I’m about to get a Rally and enjoyed your honesty (and humour). Keep going, have a great Christmas and greetings from a small rock next to Europe!

[@matto29]

Tim Loveridge thanks for watching Tim! Enjoy your Christmas and Rally 👍

[@Broadus45]

Great and honest video! You can also invest in a smaller front sprocket just by one tooth (ex: 14T to 13T) which will lower your gearing thus giving you more low end grunt/pull. But without changing it so much that it throws off you speedometer and speeds.

[@ringonotts]

I laughed a lot. You're maths is terrible but your creator skills are awesome. Subbed and I hope many more do too! Thanks from the UK, Ringo

[@inea815]

I have this bike. as a girl and as a first time rider. I love it. Im a bit overweight so Im going start by losing 20 lbs. that will help the bike too lol! After that, Ill start mods on the bike 😂

[@ringonotts]

Meh - just make sure whatever you do makes you happy. I'm personally going to start with the bike mods.

[@PhillipBeldenbeldcast]

Right with there with you. We got a big drive in August. Gives me time to lose a pound a week. :-)

[@jojobombos3908]

I really like your style of videos man. And also love the Rally.

[@maciejswiderski4340]

Wow, love your sence of humour. Perfect addition to the morning coffie ;)

[@leslieaustin151]

I got one of those exhausts for my 1992 Yamaha Serow. Certainly a bit (too) loud, but i liked the sound. I quietened it down by putting a stainless steel pot-scrubber in the silencer in front of the baffle. Perfect! Same note, but a less neighbour-annoying racket. And weight saved (my old exhaust had rotted out anyway..) Les in UK

[@juanticimo]

love the videos.. great sense of humor, subbed

[@gregjaussaud7198]

I have a Delkavic exhaust on my drz400 and always wondered what it would sound like on the Rally. Thanks man Lorenzo TX

[@bobbyrader7937]

This was informative, but more importantly, hilarious.

[@kwatts90]

Solid weight reduction. Doesn’t add up to much weight but I also removed the front reflectors with metal brackets bolted to the triple clamps on the forks and the plastic chain guard and bolts. Does nothing and it’s easier to clean the chain with it gone!

[@jgrc73]

Great upgrades great video. I bet it is faster for sure! Rally sounds great!

[@wiselybob7176]

The best way to lose the weight on bikes starts with the biker. Its cheaper.

[@worldhello1234]

It is about the bike, not your fat ass. :D

[@bartoszpajak2285]

It’s not just about the figure itself. It’s essential where the weight was located. Saving 7,5 lbs on an exhaust system mounted under the seat and the tails section makes a much more significant difference for the handling than saving 10-12 lbs down low. Together with the battery change it has to be a noticeable change. So your not just justifying the expense, the difference in handling you feel is reality.

[@tomdoe4295]

Agreed, you can take that 12 lbs and move it to the bottom of the bike and feel a handling difference without removing the weight.

[@saltwaterwalt]

I used the same taillight and didn't like the gap underneath, but I found that an old license plate, with a little bending and trimming covers up the gap perfectly. I painted it black so it blends right in.

[@BlademanStore]

You can also replace the heavy steel steering wheel with a light aluminum one. Do the same with the rear brake pedal and the gear lever, and replace the steel footrests with aluminum ones.

[@ringonotts]

Or have a dump ;)

[@greywings6605]

I like the lights, but as you mentioned, it was poorly designed. The battery switch is awesome, the exhaust I would not change it. I like the bike to be as quiet as possible, so I would keep it eventhough its much heavier. But, I'm the only person I know who doesn't like noisy bikes. I don't like attention through noise, but through design and looks, it's ok 👍 Good job on your upgrades ✌

[@matto29]

Yeah riding around town I’m not really in love with the sound but it’s not nearly as loud as a Harley or anything like that so it’s manageable and I think worth the trade off in weight savings. Appreciate the comment, my friend!

[@JackMcRoberts]

a loud pipe has saved me from getting killed by motorists that don't see me at first glance.

[@matto29]

Jack McRoberts that’s a really good point I hadn’t considered!

[@matto29]

Dave Kent wow, that’s a crazy story Dave! Glad you’re okay 👍

[@alanbehnke9615]

@@JackMcRoberts That's what everybody says that wants a loud pipe.

[@offcityhike]

Subscribed for the rare creativity over content

[@klh3244]

New to your channel. Really enjoyed it. I am looking at getting a Rally 250. I am a Harley rider that started riding off road a couple of years ago. I have a V Strom 650 but would like to add a 250 also. Ride Safe!

[@allans7281]

Fun video! I have the same bike make sure to get the Race Tech front fork upgrade -just an extra spring and oil, And more importantly the YSS rear shock for that bike. ( total $700) You’ll be blown away how nice it is and how well it performs, yet still ultra comfortable and absorbs the bumps-takes the bounciness out of the bike

[@matto29]

allan Shuben thanks for watching Allan! Yes these upgrades are on my radar. Perhaps a good project to do over the winter!

[@AbackZucchini]

Your videos are a gem for this bike's fan!

[@theravedaddy]

The rear subframe weighs 10+kg. We have an alloy one in thailand which is 1.8kg. The smog crap and brackets/ hoses are 2kg. The L headlight and brackets are 2.8kg a crf450 is 1.2kg Im having a 500gm dump right now before gearing up to do a killer mountain trail.

[@simpleslikethat]

Hi, can you share who sells/makes that lightweight rear subframe? Thats a huge weight saving, I live in Thailand also..thanks.

[@theravedaddy]

@@simpleslikethat yup, dirtpower shop on fb. 6900bt. Its a beauty too. If you fancy any dirt action in the north message me up or watch me falling off on most of the trails up here on my channel

[@simpleslikethat]

@@theravedaddy Haha, Jesus wish id known about the frames..Been throwing that lump around for 7 years:) will be getting a newer lighter bike soon..good to know about the frame though. Ye man, I visit the north a few times a year, il defo look up the channel and keep in touch..cheers

[@theravedaddy]

@@simpleslikethat im crashing on 2 -3 new trails every week! My latest series of vids sees me broke down on a mountain and having to drag the thing under a fallen tree!

[@silvioperugini5890]

love your review so much fun!

[@garageliving3658]

Great video, good editing, funny jokes 👍

[@lepycelrau]

For any noticible weight loss while riding, try the tubeless mod, it saves about 5kg of rotating mass. Many secondary benefits...

[@matto29]

Very interesting idea! I may just have to do this next spring. Thanks for sharing

[@gungfuriceboy]

love your HUMOUR!! Wife's a Drug Dealer!!..lol!!....Lithium Battery is 'IN'!!..your 'Weight Saving' mods are 'Do-able'!!...i THINK if I 'LOST' 30 pounds.of my 'own BODY'.....i'd Gain Some 'SPEED' too!!...lol.. Love This BIKE Though!! Much Thanks for sharing!!! Cheers from Canada!

[@rosarioroberto5823]

Greetings Matti, Fantastic video🇺🇸🍾🎉🇺🇸

[@64ehman]

Great fun bikes at a fair price, yes a little overweight and doesn't have that big bike power but overall I'm more than happy with my 2020 model Great vid 👍

[@whalley1390]

You ride around North Bay!? Right on dude, me too! On my 250L

[@nicksluder4764]

You sound just like Mike Rowe haha Great video btw I need to do this to my CRF250L it's way too heavy

[@climbmotoadv1550]

super video dude! liked it alot

[@doorstepmile]

Haha! Love your vids man! Came her to research a Rally for TET (TransEuropeanTrail)

[@Trickhorn]

I cut a a piece of dense cell pipe insulation to place in the gap created by the TST integrated light. It blocks sand and dirt from getting in. I’m really happy with it.

[@Trickhorn]

I’m talking small diameter about one inch and cut to width of the gap. When you bolt the cover back down the insulation is kind of smushed so it fills the gap and is held in place.

[@matto29]

Mitch Templeton awesome idea, thanks Mitch

[@mr.wildwood7342]

Great video and great sound of bike I did similar mods but went 2 steps further for power K/N air filter and EJK fuel tune

[@matto29]

I also have the K/N filter. I’ll probably put in the EJK this spring once snow is gone, do you like yours?

[@mr.wildwood7342]

@@matto29 yes I definitely feel the punch when I twist throttle I also recommend Michelin Anakee Wild tires great on and off road stiff sidewalls

[@azee4640]

Nicely done. Another cool mod is to swap out to a 300l ;)

[@JasonFiske]

That was a good video. Thank you.

[@alelectric2767]

Great sound track!👍

[@gripitandripit7957]

Have same problem with the tst fender delete being open especially since there are open plugs I don't know if water will mess it up or blow a fuse ECT

[@bulentberksan9888]

I prefered 250L and paid less than rally. İt is 20+ pound lighter. Bought 12 lt acerbis plastic tank (not heavier than standart 7.7 lt tank)and I have 2 lt more gas than rally . I added aftermarket windshield (200 gr) . And your modficiations are awesome if ı make them my bike will be 30 pounds less than atandart rally.

[@64ehman]

What you don't have from factory is a larger front disk or extra travel suspension or abs, still both are awesome bikes but different horses for different courses

[@tt9594]

Thank you for this video, the exhaust sounds great! What brand pants and jacket are you wearing in this video ?

[@johncopetti1253]

Good info and I like your humour. Very entertaining. Cheers mate. Enjoy

[@christophermurrell84]

Cool honest opinion I like the humor 😂

[@stevenpierce7218]

Cool video/ enjoy and be safe 😀

[@MickeyKimsey]

Question: was your model affected by the recall? I have the exact same bike, purchased it used and found out later that certain bikes in that model and year had a factory recall. My information has been unclear as to, if it was all or some of the 18s that were affected. I checked the vin on the NHTSA website and it told me it had 0 un-repaired issues but do not know if it never had an issue or it has already been repaired. It had almost 5k miles on it when purchased and have had no issues but searching for any additional information. I love the bike and your video. Cheers!

[@andydrummer3754]

Funny as. Says who we have to be correct with all the answers on videos. Entertaining as and the comment of going to see a doctor, priceless. Absolute gold. I was laughing so hard. 12 pound dump. Pmsl. I'm Seriously considering the CRF 300 rally as my second bike next to my Ducati. Hypermotard.

[@artraego4511]

I subscribed cause his wife is a Drug Dealer. Too Funny. 👍🏼

[@jimbodini100]

Great setup, what tires you running ?

[@briantel9432]

What about the rear blinkers

[@tieoneon1614]

For me its putting a 100-100-18 K270 tire on the rear, and AL sprocket with MX chain. Those 3 shave over 4lbs off, all off the crank too so u gain back a little power lost

[@pirran6]

Can you give some details of the gear you are wearing? Pants and boots are awesome.

[@user-uz8cg8hc6f]

What is the difference between this bike and the Honda crf250

[@whoscook4481]

Enjoyed!

[@armyofshea7941]

Subbed for the “placebo affect” comment. Honesty with humility is a great combination. Well, I’m off to weigh my dump. Later. Edit: Before weight 147.3. After 146.8. Think I gained 1/16 HP just now. And that was reading Guns and Ammo. If I had been watching KZbin could have gained 1/8th HP.

[@matto29]

💪maximum performance 💪

[@jamesbatten8659]

I love my CRF250L . 😁👍🇬🇧🏍

[@allans7281]

Correction: YYS shock( just the basic fully adj one) :)

[@biscuitsalive]

Hmmmm. I’m no expert but it seems like a bad idea to replace the exhaust without setting up a EJK properly. But I will look into lightening my 2019 250L at some point.

[@ScottHomeVideos]

The bike has a narrowband O2 sensor and adjusts the fueling appropriately under half throttle. Over half throttle it reverts to a preset fuel map. I tuned mine with an FMF can and EJK with a wideband O2 sensor and found that with stock settings it ran lean at idle, full throttle and high speed cruise. After adjusting the EJK to just add a small bit of fuel at those spots and a couple transition points to get to 14.3 afr, it runs like a top and still gets 70+mpg, even off road, fully loaded with camping gear. Hope this helps a bit

[@stephtraveler7378]

Nice work. Just keep in mind rider weight is the biggest factor. Used to race ironman and people would ask how light my bike was.... easy 200 pounds (15 pound bike + 185 pounds rider) Easier to lose weight in the rider without compromises in the mechanics of the bike...

[@ScottHomeVideos]

I wonder how much that headlight, bracket and windscreen weighs?

[@ScottHomeVideos]

That's my next thing to mod on the rally

[@fmxinsane]

Great video! i subscribed hope it gets you closer to the 1000 followers. i also noticed you from Ontario. where do you usually ride?

[@matto29]

I ride in Northern Ontario, Sudbury and North Bay mostly. Thanks for the sub!

[@fmxinsane]

@@matto29 you very welcome. thtas awesome, been to sudbury a few times to sled. love it there. planning on getting a tenere 700 soon and hope to see sudbury in summer

[@basilistitieh5862]

do you have a link to the pants ? i like them :)

[@honda116969]

For the money I think a good investment would be the 550 performance ECU it made a huge difference on my bike I went with the same exhaust you did except mine is the carbon fiber same company same size can

[@artraego4511]

Lol. Dude. You Rock. Cool Vid. 👍🏼 what Brand of headlight is that. Thx Man.

[@matto29]

Thanks dude! Headlight is just stock 👍

[@Slavkoadv]

Great video! Entertaining, yet informative. I have one more tip for you to reduce weight (thou not by much) while doing upgrade - aluminium steering handle bar! Original is iron piece of shit, you will bent it sooner or later anyway😁

[@matto29]

Slavko great tip, thanks!

[@berkehankucukaras]

An informative video, my weight reduction method is to always keep the warehouse empty, this gives me an estimated 15lb :))

[@GreaseAndGravel]

Great video man! I can't believe that the CRF250L Rally weights the same as my XR650L (346lbs)! That is just insane. I should be able to shave similar weight with the same mods. Not sure how I'll measure it though, my wife is not a drug dealer 😂

[@rocnktm]

Wow, that is heavy, I never knew. My KTM 690 Enduro weighs 345 totally wet. And that can be too heavy for me in tight single track.

[@Cicadawee]

Can't wait for your wife to find out what your buying and assembling in the garage.---- Did you buy the stuff i told you about?!!! ..... 😁

[@mikeschlup5279]

A timed distance run after mods might have lent some credence to the 8 lbs = 1hp.

[@torontolistener5507]

That rear fender probably had 1 or 2 ounces of dirt on it. Not a huge amount, but if you are using such an accurate scale, it makes sense to clean the dirt off the parts before weighing, otherwise you're not getting an accurate result.

[@frankmc5021]

From Ont. 🇨🇦 Thought your video was great.= New subscriber.

[@t_c5266]

Links to the products?

[@moemuggy4971]

With that exhaust you'll need to retune your ECU. The bike already runs lean. That exhaust will only make it worse. Sure you save a few pounds (most of it in heat shield which you may need) but you won't gain anymore HP. You're just moving the torque curve. But now your gas milage will go down, because you have to richen up the mixture or risk burning your exhaust valves.

[@danmac0]

I don't like how the muffler sits so low.

[@gailtaylor1636]

Itchyboots brought me here...indirectly.

[@matto29]

I hope she said nice things about me

[@skyedafenesser-po1wj]

Can I bump start it

[@FPV_Aerials]

i am now planning to start my channel with this bike i have .. the rally its in my garage for a year

[@larseriksson3495]

you sir are funny

[@FloridaTwoWheelAdventures]

I also purchased the TST tail kit and sent it back promptly after seeing the gap issue. The other major tail tidy kit doesn’t have that problem and it’s only modestly more money. I can’t remember the brand but a two minute search will reveal it.

[@worldhello1234]

@10:25 Yeah, in a land with the least amount of regulations and the biggest aftermarket. :)

[@darrinyo-mamakimble7002]

5-7 pounds a good dump... seriously I’m not kidding.

[@chuckbowen4334]

Careful, some of the tail tidys are illegal because of regulation s concerning taillight location. Besides 2.8 pounds isn't a concern.

[@wolfdue2236]

You got me...lmao...She's a drug dealer....hahaha

[@Daniel-on8gm]

👍

[@cheva68]

Headfake by using USD. "Guy seems pretty cool for a southern cousin...oh, he's from Ontario. Carry on."

[@TROdesigns]

Requesting Google to add to their conversions 8 lbs = 1 hp :-)

[@TROdesigns]

and since 1 large dookie = 12 lbs, 1 large duece = 1.5 hp

[@SirDamned]

I like to keep the exhaust quiet to avoid angry farmers

[@K9River]

It must be really convenient to be married to your connection.

[@matto29]

K9 so convenient

[@jokermtb]

Good one eh

[@worldhello1234]

@2:23 Unless you wanna go fast, because at some point, horses are more important than weight. :)

[@rvtssrvtss3630]

Your flat spot is a lean condition your new muffler has less back pressure

[@ernestodiburero]

I just added 5 kgs 😄

[@pinguzoe]

pipe DOT approved??

[@matto29]

pinguzoe no I don’t believe so

[@garageliving3658]

Check local laws. In Wisconsin you dont have to have an exhaust on the road, but on trails it needs exhaust and spark arrestor

[@HamRadio200]

From my personal experience, it is a waste to pay to reduce this bikes weight. Lighter bike is actually less comfortable to ride at highway speed. My dad, brother and I just road the OK portion of the TAT, and in most cases, the bike needed a little more weight to feel stable. If you're wanting to do trials completion or MX, then by all means, reduce the weight, or get a different bike.

[@joecamel6835]

A charged battery weighs more than a non charged one .

[@worldhello1234]

@10:05 Almost 6 kg. :)

[@rocketrollsvlogs7625]

12.5 lbs reduction. Has to be better.

[@walterkersting6238]

Doesn’t clean the thing before he works on it.

[@lubomirhorvath823]

Sorry but, Really? Why didn't you buy a real low weight dirt bike instead of small "heavy" adventure bike? I don't know how it works in Canada but in Europe, you can not ride motorbike on the roads without rear turning lights. Also battery. Did you changed highend battery from Yuasa to 15$ battery bcs of the weight? Good luck with cold starts after cold nights. One thing I can accept is exhaust exchange.

[@matto29]

The TST taillight has functioning turn signals. I’m not sure where you’re buying lithium ion batteries for $15 but that’s a good deal. The one I bought starts great even here in frosty Canada. Hope you’re having a great autumn Lubomir 😘