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Hey guys, there is a cool thing I wanted to share with you, Redmoto is a Honda importer in Italy who offers CRF300RX and CRF400RX to their customers. Is there a hope we can see these bikes on other markets as well?
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[@woodman4989]

I just bought a 2023 CRF250RX and put the Red Moto 300 kit in it. They also have a fuel tank that has the same capacity as the stock muffin top tank. You just need R shrouds after tank install, makes it as skinny as the R. Put a flywheel kit and Tokyo mods ECU reprogram. It is what Honda should sell off the floor. It's an awesome trail bike and I can run it on the Moto track also. I'm 52 so the 450's are not as fun anymore. This one is perfect.

[@ryanpatrick4813]

Woodman how do you like the bike after mods? Power delivery, fueling, etc.? I'm 48 yrs old and I'd like to get a manageable power/suspension setup. And I like Honda. Thanks.

[@woodman4989]

@@ryanpatrick4813 Put a Yoshimura slip on with spark arrestor and had it mapped for pump gas. Power rips on top like a 350, but you can also go slow in the woods especially with the flywheel I put in it. Had the suspension done for vet riding. I'm 220 so they put 450 springs on it. The 300 kit is made by Athena so it's made well. I rode KTM's for years, but I wanted to go back to Honda since I grew up on them in the 80's. Also put a retro graphics kit with gold wheels on it. Red Moto had mapping sent for the kit, but Tokyo mods had a woods map for #2 and a Motocross map for #3. Map 1 can't be changed so when you do the 300 kit it doesn't work at all. It's easy to start and has been reliable. The new clutches on the 22 and 23 are much more durable.

[@richnewman6348]

Sherco 300 sef factory, job done 😊

[@coolbreeze7008]

@Woodman49 How are the gear ratios on this bike? seems it would work well in flowing single track but might be a handful in technical or slower trails? I have come so close to building this bike a few times, everything looks great on paper until I get to the transmission. I live Arizona, the terrain can vary from long washes to creek beds loaded with rocks that will not let you get out of first or maybe second gear, I have been looking at the TM 300 4 stroke enduro as an option, appears TM got it right but the dealer sucks in my area. BTW Im 57, have a 23 Husqvarna TX 300 and looking for a different bike to ride and race with, any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

[@dirtniron]

thanks for sharing, appreciate it! Bike must be blast!

[@gcostanza2115]

I agree, it would be nice to see more manufacturers doing the Red Moto style package. Good video, thanks for posting.

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Maybe we should wonder why you and I can't start making dirt bikes. We are not allowed to compete anymore (watch the movie "Tucker"). So here we are, asking for the colors we want. I would lie to start shooting, (plastic injection mold shooting), so retro plastic that fits modern bikes. Because this modern "abstract art plastic", is as ugly as the "Hurricane bike" in the 1986 MX film "Winner takes all", (on YT). I did some surgery on my 2019 YZ250 2-stroke, to get rid of the stupid long arrow look and the "Hercules arm shield" front number plate. I bet you we can grow a plastic company shooting the early 90's "vintage" look. I don't know how you can be seen in public with such ugly plastic. I think KYM started it, as if orange was not ugly enough. :)

[@gusgiesel]

It is completely ridiculous how long people have been saying the 250 is not enough and the 450 is too much, yet the Japanese manufacturers have not responded at all. There should have been a Japanese 350 at least 8 years ago and still it takes a 3rd party to build anything close. My head is spinning.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

My 1984 Honda XR250 with Al Baker XR280 kit! LOL Finally wore it out!

[@marcochavanne]

Not exactly a performance enduro bike but didn't Suzuki make a DRZ350?

[@zakkyummms]

Husqvarna makes a 350 and it's just as reliable as Honda. The Jap brands are conservative and afraid to risk innovating.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

@@marcochavanne It was just a DR350. With an alloy swingarm that was glued and bolted together! Our Club Members bought them by the dozen, and they were as reliable as anvils! For fast trail riding all you need.

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

@@zakkyummms Husqvarna's are great bikes. Always have been - until you have to go to the dealer to buy spare parts. Pull your pants down then eh!

[@sampatton548]

I have a husky fe350 for hard Enduro type riding. I am absolutely blown away that other manufactures haven't seen the value in bridging the gap between a 250 and 450. They aren't even in the same universe. The 350 is absolutely perfect.

[@Mostviews111]

They need a 300 2 smoker

[@sorenmelchior]

Part of the issue with USA market is the government requirements and restrictions. It costs a manufacturer more money to get designs approved for import here in the US (why we have less models available). It’s why I just bought a 2023 Suzuki DRZ 400 (it’s grandfathered), and will slowly mod it to take weight off and tweak it.

[@KacKLaPPeN23]

Whatever you think government requirement and restrictions are for the US, I can assure you they're at least twice as much of a pain in the ass for the EU.

[@rockys777]

you can register a shopping cart with an engine in us and you still complain lol.. we can't even register enduro factory bikes in my country no more

[@vincentzompa5541]

I've wanted a crf300x Since the 250x came out in 2004. I would even buy a kit to do it myself if reasonably priced.

[@ryllyduc1198]

If this was offered in the US market it would sell like crazy! Way to go on putting these beautiful machines together. I'm just bummed I can't buy one in US

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Before the 1986 production rule, bikes sold like crazy. That about tripled the cost of a bike in 5 years. Then, the dictatorship EPA with their unlimited government force, imposed the 4-stroke engine on the industry, and prices have over doubled again so fat. Can't wait for electric to be forced on us too? There is no such thing as a dirt bike "selling like crazy" in the USA anymore, (and it must be much worse in Europe with only 15 guys on a 40 rider MXGP gate.). The market was actually over 10 times larger, when people, (kids, like me, buying brand new bikes making $1.00/hr part time starting at the age of 10.), could afford bikes in the USA. What we will most likely see in the next 5 years is bike maker, stop making bikes, because not enough people are buying them. You can thank government and FIM intervention over what we make and buy.

[@ryllyduc1198]

@@EarthSurferUSA it really is frustrating with the massive changes in regulations and prices since the time period you mentioned. It certainly makes it a lot harder to enjoy sports without having to make a healthy paycheck to afford it.

[@PARKCITYDUALSPORT]

Redmoto USA sells the parts - thats the only way to do it in the states unfortunately

[@Dashriprock4]

SWM is coming with a 300 off road only bike soon. Basically a rebooted 2010 Husky TXC 310. AJP also has a SPR310 using the SWM motor. And Sherco of course has a fantastic 300. Don't forget Beta and the 350 and 390 also

[@zakkyummms]

Beta is so spensive though.

[@z33tanner]

How sick would a actual Honda CRF400L be though? Crf300l is great but the suspension and power are lacking, 400 could have better suspension for people who were already going to modify the 300 for dual sport.

[@marcochavane3124]

You can make massive power gains without sacrificing reliability on the CRF300L Just add CBR300R cams and CBR300R velocity stack with a tune. About $275 total and it will be a whole new bike. I raced a stock DRZ400SM and we were neck and neck all the way past 70mph

[@jimmygritz9714]

These are race bikes .. not those Ls

[@CLTimprovements]

The 400 sounds great! - I have 2 XR400's - sold my 450 cos it felt useless in the low end technical stuff

[@simoncleland704]

That’s why I still have my plated 2011 KTM400 EXC, all the power you need and smoother and less vibration than a 450

[@coolbreeze7008]

One of the best 4 stroke engines built, will lug all day long, wont flame out and haul the mail when you want it to.

[@user-se7vt5ow4e]

I still kick myself in the but for selling my 07 XCW 400.

[@coolbreeze7008]

@@user-se7vt5ow4e That makes 2 of us!🥲

[@dirtniron]

thanks for sharing guys!

[@chopperenduro6590]

I still have my 2006 ktm 400exc , plated for National D-S's .

[@outlawpat8038]

Good cuz I love my XR400R

[@dylandekeyzer1451]

I’m 20 I have a XR400 I built. Honda should’ve stuck to the RFVC with dual sports it makes more sense the XR platform is superior off-road for just playing around in the dirt

[@gailtaylor1636]

Everyone screamed about how it was too heavy, didn't have good suspension, was an obsolete design, etc. GIVE US A MX BIKE WITH BIGGER GAS TANK! So they did. 250x & 450X. And everyone STILL complains. They are NOT going to build 6-8 different model lines. Sales models show that's a loser. There is a reason the XR/TT/DR/KDX models have gone away. Weren't selling enough. Was a time you chose between Japanese trail bikes & MX bikes. EVERYONE thought they needed the MX bike. So the trail bikes went away. Ain't coming back.

[@dylandekeyzer1451]

@@gailtaylor1636 adventure motorcycles are the most popular selling bikes currently in North America where I’m from. They even released a new XR150 and still make the XR650, so it’s not obsolete it’s rather simple compared to modern bikes

[@gailtaylor1636]

@@dylandekeyzer1451 Grew up riding IT 175's. Eventually moved to Husky back in the air cooled days. Quit for long time. Bought 2001 KTM 400 EXC. Great bike. My mechanics back finally made the decision for me to quit riding. Just wasn't fun anymore. When I hear people complain about power or suspension I just roll my eyes.

[@dylandekeyzer1451]

@@gailtaylor1636 good sir you and I got a lot in common. I just started breaking my mechanics back as a apprentice so I fear that day safe travels buddy 🤙🏻

[@davea7250]

Been Riding dirt bikes for 50 years currently got an 08 530 Ktm and a 08 990 Adventure S, love them but in technical terrain its bloody hard work .liking the 300 Honda a LOT, cheers ..

[@rockys777]

how's the reliability on the exc530? my friend has a 09 one and we will be stripping and rebuilding everything in the following months

[@davea7250]

@@rockys777 Yeh Mate had mine from new prob got 10k on it they go hard and dont like slow speeds cause they get hot even with 1 fan , no rebuilds needed yet ive got 5 bikes so not ridden as much as i would like .

[@justinpennington7682]

​@@rockys777it must be good its old as hell

[@shereemitch]

All Right, I always thought the 400 was a prefect size. The KTM EXC 400 was a great bike, AND !!! won a ton of GNCC with Mike Lafferty.

[@danarussell4246]

Mike won National Enduro’s not GNCC’s and he did love the KTM 400.

[@shereemitch]

@@danarussell4246 Right sorry

[@ryannylander1819]

The 2001 TE400 won enduro as well. 400’s are the sweet spot.

[@BrewProof]

no mention of the Kawasaki KLX300....

[@nealmathews2185]

I can't help wondering what is the weight difference between the 300 and the 400 ? Why not just make a 350 and to have the perfect medium?

[@Gremlinsbeabout]

father ordered the 300rx special edition arrived with a broken transmission.

[@russshappard1059]

I want to see Yamaha do this. I put the Athena big bore kit on my 2008 wr250f and it woke it up like nothing I've ever seen. I'm looking hard at a new yz250fx, what I wouldn't give for them to start listening to their customers and give us a mid-bore model. Too much to ask. Enduro crowd has been begging Yamaha for an electric starter for their 2 stroke for over a decade. Crickets.....

[@DennisMerwood-xk8wp]

Enduro crowd has been begging Yamaha for an electric starter for their 2 stroke for over a decade. - Only wussies need a push-button on a ring ding Russ. LOL Except that Husky WR390 that broke my ankle kicking back!

[@johnhewitt1096]

I love it and love that its got lights indicators and speedo. Perfect

[@jonathondavis170]

I built my CRF450RX utilizing alot of Red Moto parts, but XPR and Bundy Built helped with engine and parts, and Art of War have me on Showa A Kit suspension and valved it and LOVE IT! It's a bad machine - have Athena GET, Akropovic exhaust, Hinson Clutch and other things like Pro Wheels Racing wheels, dirt tricks and Regina primary drive and more! I plan on keeping it and my 19 TM Racing EN300ES 2t forever so put money into them...don't need the latest and greatest if you have good part selection - I care more about my technique, skill, experience, and fitness, and these two bikes certainly help me progress while having fun doing it. Disclaimer - these sizes don't work for everyone! I'm 250lbs with little body fat, so these sizes work better for me cause quite honestly my weight makes the bikes work extra hard! lmbo

[@maxhenry1977]

I agree, Rado. Not only honda, but yamaha and kawasaki ought to offer the same choices.

[@mahaniamir]

I have a CRF400RX and i can say its great . I dont know how i can import it with me to USA. Its good in tide trail here in sweden and of course i 90% using it on motocross track

[@dirtniron]

thanks for sharing, I bet its a good overall bike. take it apart and crate it.. should be possible..

[@wolfgangweiss3022]

It seems you never heard about the Italian brand "beta", they have a 350,390,430 and 490

[@Farangmoto]

Been doing it in Thailand for years. Probably half the cost as well

[@DaveEPie]

What type of riding are you guys going there? What part of the country? Thanks bro

[@kiwiadventurer]

Very interest video. I've just finished building the 2022 CRF 300 Rally to specs suitabe for remote touring but idealy a 350 to 450 would be the ultimate for me. We're so close to getting that unicorn bike but it looks like the Chineses might beat everyone to the draw with what I've seen.

[@boomerisadog3899]

Who cares what kind of garbage the Chinese come up with? They don't make a single car or motorcycle that's competitive with their Japanese or European counterparts, only cheap, fragile, copies.

[@Mattflea]

i used to have a 06 crf for 6 years, doing a lot of enduro trails with it! i was always lacking a bit of power, but this made me a better rider i think. Nowdays, if i had to buy a new honda, coming from an husqvarna and being from italy, i would go anyday with crf300rx! The godly frame and suspension with this bit more powerful engine HAS to be the be the perfect mix! I hope i'll be able to try one of the them one day

[@dirtniron]

right on, thanks for sharing brother!

[@EarthSurferUSA]

Go waste the extra money. I will still beat you on my 2-stroke YZ250. :)

[@maico241]

I would like to know how to fit a fuel light or gauge to a Honda CRF450RX 22. I wonder if the fuel pump/fuel level sender off another model such as the 450L would fit.Any suggestions?

[@bennyb.1742]

I wish we got the 400 in Canada. In BC specifically, insuring a 400 would be like 1/5th the insurance of a 450.

[@JackMiller-hr1ov]

Does it have the Abus/Euro style frame lock bosses? I hope so!

[@carlatamanczyk3891]

Italian made Betas have a great selection of 2 ts and 4 ts. What's wrong here?

[@thomaskerr5876]

They look sharp!

[@Briank-ef5iq]

Just wish Honda Suzuki Kawasaki would bring back the 2 stroke!! Imagine a 2023 RM 250!!! Wow!!

[@2WheelDerness]

I would buy a KDX 300...

[@mg_tv5448]

It's stupid for them to finance the further development of two-strokes when in 2035 they won't sell much anymore

[@2WheelDerness]

@@mg_tv5448 2 strokes are already developed, and up to 2035 we still have 12 years to go, usualy each model wont stay so long. They still produce e stroke for mx, so they just need to adapt them for enduro...

[@user-se7vt5ow4e]

We get the CRF 300 and 400 RX in Spain. There is a slightly used 300 in Girona for 7800€ that I am tempted To buy.

[@dirtniron]

right on, sounds like Redmoto sells to the neighbors too then. Thanks for sharing

[@mg_tv5448]

@@dirtniron i v ČR se dají koupit 300RX a 400RX

[@davidr1997]

Also in the Netherlands too!

[@oliver380]

i Have Sherco 300 4t super great bike, higher idle than other bikes, but its almost impossible to stall, great for hillclimbs , and for woods both, and less likely to overheat than a 450-500

[@onewheelup]

i had a CRF450X with a street legal kit on it,most fun i ever had,was going to put street tires and rims but didnt have the money then sold it,cant ride anymore,got hurt bad at work,super bummed seeing these bikes.

[@GasSoakedRag]

Why cant honda make a 300 2 stroke?

[@lukasbilik4496]

Čau Rado, to je naprostá bomba, jaký krok udělala firma REDMOTO. Úžasna myšlenka udělat změnu v kubaturach a přijít s něčím takovým. Objemy 300 a 400cc mi přijdou fantastické a říkám si pojďme to zmenit napříč celým segmentem značek... YAMAHA, KAWA, FANTIC, SHERCO, atd. Naprosto se vším co si tady řekl souhlasím. Jde vidět že si srdcem Evropan a baví tě sledovat, co je nového na starém kontinentě a jaké jsou trendy. Moc mě baví tě sledovat a fandím ti. Měj se Lukáš

[@dominikrojan1101]

Lépe bych to nenapsal. Taky Radovi fandím :)

[@dirtniron]

dakujem bratri moji, vazim si vasu podporu! Som rad ze suhlasite s mojim postojom, mate to tam v EU celkom pestre - sem tam vam zavidim ;) drzte sa!

[@lukasbilik4496]

@@dominikrojan1101 Zdarec Dominik, jojo taky mu často zavidim tu CALIFORNII a GLEN Helen. Maji to tam jak po dalnici. Tady u nas se kolikrat prcáš po všelijakých tratích ...

[@cheto2952]

How about just make a 350 like the Belgium bikes

[@danarussell4246]

Not really a Honda guy but I agree the bikes are super cool. I got a few friends that could really use them. I’m still waiting on Honda to do a cosmetic makeover on the XR650L and I don’t mean white tank/fenders and black rims.

[@metallicman711]

i disagree, never change the xr look

[@danarussell4246]

@@metallicman711 You have the right to disagree and I’m ok with that. Can we at least agree on a little bigger gas tank?

[@slydog4535]

They need a new xr400

[@dennismacwilliams196]

OMG I want that bike eather one. I wish we had this in the USA ! The 400 so nice, I want that

[@limpetcarre1139]

If Honda made a CRF350R I reckon it would outsell the 250 and 450 combined.

[@p.t.anderson1593]

As to why the dealers or American Honda won't do it... I'm pretty sure that there are Federal consumer protection laws that require the manufacturers to keep parts available for 5 or 10 years, I'm not sure exactly, for anything they sell directly - off the showroom floor. It is costly to the manufacturers and I'm sure that it's a reason that we don't see stuff with small production runs. Another reason , from personal experience, is that a lot of the dealers have little or no actual passion. Many of the dealer owners that I've spoken to give me the impression that they would be just as happy selling kitchen appliances.

[@Uncle-LeRoy]

Did these people make the cre back in the day?

[@endurotruckererniedesjardins]

Honda would have a sure thing win 🏆 if they brought 2 strokes back. 125 n 250 mx line and enduro line

[@ronald8673]

Hats off to Red Moto !

[@ChaseN194]

Its honestly sad that Honda doesnt just give their riders what they want. V4 sportsbike, 400cc enduro, middleweight twin, LIGHT Africa twin.

[@johnnyjohnson2942]

I built this bike back in 07 out of a 07 250 xcf-w and HT 315 stroker kit, had to send engine to CA. in an ice chest. Greatest bike i ever raced and got me a Championship that year!

[@morkzorckerborg5000]

i have a husky te310 and sherco 300. 300-400 liquid cooled 4t is the spot. I really wish they'd make a new xr400, there's a gap in the market for a reliable lightweight dual sport with good suspension and enough grunt. the 300L is fine and all, just make an option with the rx suspension. maybe i should go for a crf450rl, theyre corked to the gills so powers more like 350 level and people are puting heavy miles on them just fine. also i got quoted about 15k out the door for a new husky fe, i would be way too cautious not to screw it up, rather than focusing on the adventure

[@MrYz250fman]

Ive been saying for years they need to make a new 400. I like the 450 but they are just to much for the trails.

[@bobbyyan6256]

imagine honda making 300 2T enduro. it’s game over

[@spun222499]

come on honda!!!! i always ride red but i hate my 21 250rx and considering a ktm now

[@pjbikerful]

The japanese manufactures always fall just short on what we all want. It's so damn frustrating. 😏

[@dirtniron]

yea, seems they are bit too conservative..

[@joeanania2257]

Many options now in USA...Ktm,Beta,Sherco,TM. All make GREAT 125-500 4 t&2t engines...

[@rileylofin7653]

Hey I’m 12 about to turn 13 and I’m looking to get my first dirt bike what cc would I need and what’s the best brand to get

[@dirtniron]

what do you want to ride? for Motocross probably 85cc 2 stroke but if you want to ride trails and get something to learn on the best would probably be Yamaha TTR125

[@rileylofin7653]

Like one for bills I don’t have any trails

[@rileylofin7653]

Hills

[@rileylofin7653]

What would be the best for hills

[@Mike-uh2gw]

Buying a new bike then having to dump thousands in the suspension and computer mods sucks. Yamaha nailed it with their app and they already have great suspension. All they need to round the WR or FX package out is a 350. There is no hope for Honda except their bikes will still be around for decades cause they don't wear out.

[@tomsaloga5045]

Yes a 400 I would love.

[@Gornflyin]

300 is very interesting. The Pro package is what customers really want. Just look at the Euro bikes with bling packages from stock. Not one single Japanese bike even has the parts for this, let alone from the showroom floor ready to go. I think the 400 is a great idea, and would suit more people for sure. But we are grunting Men, and men want more all the time, or you will be called a girly man by your friends lol. So maybe its the right bike, but will it sell as a 400....hmmmm

[@brapptv44]

that 400 sounds fun

[@eddieagnich1875]

Blame it all on California! I talked to a Yamaha Factory Rep and he said California is the largest market and has the most restrictions. So what ever California does dictates (Yes like Germany a few years back) what we end up getting.

[@ChrisB-je5om]

I love 450 pull I ride my 883 Harley like a dirt bike lol 😂 no joke

[@bigals.ktms.9937]

It's a very smart move 👌 but it's a shame it took an Italian company to sort out a Japanese company, also I am so surprised they didn't do a 350 kit they are the most popular in the wess enduro series,and I wouldn't go pass one as a race bike.?

[@Mockle07]

WESS enduro riders are all riding 300 two strokes, not 350 four strokes 👀. Enduro GP has all classes and the last two years the overall Enduro GP title has been won by a 300 2 stroke(Beta) and a 250 4 stroke (GasGas) 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@bigals.ktms.9937]

@@Mockle07 your talking the hard enduro wess stuff .

[@Mockle07]

@@bigals.ktms.9937 WESS is now called the Hard Enduro World Championship… and in that, they all ride 300 2 strokes. Back in the first couple of years of WESS there were a couple of faster rounds that some riders would ride 4 strokes in, but most still rode their 2 strokes.

[@bigals.ktms.9937]

@@Mockle07 so what's the rounds called that Billy bolt and the rest use there 350 for.?

[@Mockle07]

@@bigals.ktms.9937 Billy uses his 350 for Endurocross (the indoor races) and occasional national level normal enduro (not hard enduro) races but you’ll very rarely see Mani on a 4 stroke and I have never seen Mario, Wade, Walker or Gomez ride a 4 stroke anywhere 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@marclarden]

I was hoping Honda was going to go in between & make a 350.😪

[@davidjmichaud4422]

We can hope that hits all showroom floors. It would be a great hit.

[@davidjmichaud4422]

Does anyone have any feedback about how these kits perform?

[@heathray7256]

I agree

[@fredshred5194]

I like what the Italians have done with that Honda.

[@ktm3006]

Only if we could buy in South Africa it would be awesome

[@coltonowens2742]

Just bring back more two strokes damn it!

[@mikeking7388]

Can’t go wrong with this I don’t think!

[@Lightnin42]

Good news 👏🇺🇸

[@Natedoc808]

Couldn’t do a 350 huh?

[@ChrisB-je5om]

Omg I like odd ball 300rx Honda

[@rt2255]

Sorry grew up on 2 strokes even latest 4 strokes are lacking excitement when riding. 2 strokes rule 4 strokes drool.😊

[@crispincurtis8585]

Sounds like they should've made it a 500 instead of a 400🤓😎🤙

[@batmikipig]

Honda builds only sx motorcycle because it doesn't care of "European enduro", she only focuses on US market Red moto builds enduro starting from honda sx in Italy Someone in US would actually enjoy an "European enduro" Honda: wtf

[@joeanania2257]

In Italy you have Beta, TM,Fantic,SWM....why buy Honda??

[@racingjunk7024]

Bc Honda makes reliable great machines .not to mention people always want things everyone else doesn’t have .

[@joeanania2257]

@RacingJunk702 Honda has their issues also... just seems like Italy has many good options...of course another option just makes it better for us...

[@scottcummings8074]

I never said 450 was too much!. I have a bored 500, 525, and 650. Now I'm building a 1000 twin. I want 6 gears and over 100 hp for the mountains I ride. We need to cruise at 90 and have the torque to climb up goat trails. It is 2023 people, where are the light, well suspended bikes with gobs of power that would change the earth's rotation if they got traction. I don't want some buzzy slow to accelerate bike at 80 to 90. I want to be able to ride over the mountain and cross the desert with ease at 90 to 100, and these bikes won't even come close. My ktm 690 came closest stock, but I had to do a lot to make it better offroad. There is nothing like having 80 to 100 hp under you on a light, well suspended dirtbike with 6 gears. But for now, you have to build them yourself still, and this goofy computerized world is not getting any closer to producing a production motorcycle close to what I want.

[@dirtniron]

thanks for sharing Scott, you have very rare opinion on the matter but I get your point.

[@johnnyringo35]

Post videos of you riding in conditions stated with the aforementioned bikes.....

[@scottcummings8074]

@johnnyringo35 I don't have any videos, but it's the Rocky mountains and high desert. Kind of like riding Baja.

[@brucemorrison3563]

Interesting.

[@joeanania2257]

Do not think this is the best business move for Honda... go to a small country like Italy that already has Great manufactures and machines; Beta,TM,SWM,Fantic,others?.... So believe they will be imported everywhere soon....unless EPA,etc is an obstacle? You forgot about BETA AND TM GUY! They make all sizes and are competitive or better than most others...

[@morganlstrobel]

Now jump in a time machine and give us this bike 10 years ago.

[@ronpage101]

Honda 400 wr 2t. They would sell millions. 400 wr 4t would sell millions as well.

[@noellumex7555]

CRE flashback

[@MattH198]

So this is another fantic, bimota relationship

[@Mockle07]

Not quite. RedMoto are the official European dirt bike distributer for Honda and are their official Enduro race team. They have just put together different modifications for the bikes and put them together in house.

[@dirtniron]

yes it is different but does pretty much the same, making Japanese bikes better for offroad.

[@BukitMakmur-v5w]

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[@mxbadboy263]

That was cruel click bait!

[@kevinmartin7354]

When they bring back the 2 stroke let me know. Till then f$&k Honda

[@justonpreble4083]

Gas Gas has a 300 4 stroke

[@Mockle07]

No it doesn’t.

[@dirtniron]

only Sherco has one as far as I know

[@Mockle07]

@@dirtniron TM also make an EN300 4 stroke 👍🏻 Will Ruprecht won the E2 Enduro GP title on it in 2022

[@6226superhurricane]

why don't honda build a decent bike to start with.

[@matthewjames4268]

Id sell my ktm 350 for one

[@Motoinc]

Old news been done for 10years

[@someoneyouknow96]

Honda, Kawasaki and Suzuki need to do this. The 350 ktm is the best selling bike on the market from what I understand. The Japanese should compete with the Europeans for market shares. I would have bought a ktm but I didn’t like the price and I didn’t like the way the bike felt under me. A 350 is probably the perfect bike. It only makes 5hp less than a 450. 450s are too much bike.

[@someoneyouknow96]

Id also like to see 2 strokes make a comeback. They're simple and effective. Not everyone can afford a 10k bike. We don't need fancy fuel injection or any of that BS.

[@ronpage101]

​@@someoneyouknow96Have priced a new KTM/Husqvarna 300 xc? Over11k. But they are true surgical weapons.

[@someoneyouknow96]

@@ronpage101 oh yeah. Im well aware how much these bikes are. I only shelled out 7500 for my kx450.

[@dirtniron]

Thanks for sharing

[@shannonscott5788]

Not only $1500 for the upgrade 300 kit but another $1500 for labor. That’s 3k extra we should not be spending just for upgrades that could already be available.

[@dirtniron]

yes, thats why it would make a lot of sense to get them from the dealers here in US as well

[@izom]

all this nonsense cc- keep it simple- 250, 350, 450 period....

[@rodneystewart4312]

Click bait

[@marcrenetiedrez2432]

pas interessant ! ! ! de france !

[@560smr4]

Hello

[@tomkennedy3491]

How about a 400 two stroke.

[@keithy363]

So want it’ll never come to australia