Honda Talon Shock Therapy Before and After

Considering and upgrade to your Honda Talon X4 suspension? We recently pulled the trigger on the Shock Therapy spring kit and Ride Improvement system (RIS). In this video, Joe will give you his thoughts before and after the suspension upgrades.
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[@nomoresocialmediaaccounts2308]

I appreciate your insight ,probably will do the same .

[@razorsedgeadventures6599]

I can tell you the ST Ride Improvement System made a HUGE difference on my Talon X. Of course I had mine set up for rough trail riding which is 90% of what I do, so it leans a lot more in the corners than it did stock, but I'm not peeing blood when I get home from a day of trail riding! Vastly better for my kind of riding than the rebar factory suspension, in spite of Honda's poor suspension geometry design.

[@patd4u2]

I have a 2018 XP1000-4 and I put some shock therapy springs on it for a plush trail ride, what a difference! so much better. I also have a RS1, I took it out on Table mesa mountain trail off the 17 and it was terrible going slow. The jostling back and forth from hitting the rocks made me feel nauseous. My daughter lives in Glendale so we drove to Shock Therapy and I bought some springs for it for slow trail riding, much better now but not as plush as I want. So I purchased some Walker Evans sway bar shock links for it, Haven't had a chance to go out with them on it. I moving to AZ probably next month when my house closes escrow and will stay with my daughter in Glendale while looking for a house. I am going to make a appointment with Shock Therapy to get the RS1 re-valved to make it as plush as possible for trail riding. Thanks for the review, glad it made a good improvement.

[@marvinevans8789]

I was just waiting for that involuntary whoop of joy at 26:25 🤣🤣 I knew it had to be coming. What a beautiful and fun riding area! I would love to come ride there some day. Thanks for showing us that and the change in ride after the ST work. I could see you getting more confidence in how the car works now as you rode more. I think the racers using live valve shocks are riding in comfort mode most of the time, and then quickly shifting to firmer as the terrain requires. Go firmer rather than slowing down and then back to plush. I could see the change in ride height easily. So now you have more ground clearance for rock crawling and rocks in the trails. I’m thrilled with the improvement to our 2019 XP4 with just the ST spring kit and anticipate loving it even more when the shocks need rebuilding and I get the RIS done at that time. Now looking forward to hearing Garrett’s review of his KRX after the ST RIS and springs. 👍😎

[@fredvacca8570]

Thanks for the shout out to HTA Honda Talon Adventures!!! Great Video Joe!

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Thanks brother!

[@toddlarsen6812]

Great video! I purchased my Talon 1000X4 FLV in January of this year and I have got to say your videos have helped me make several choices on my machine. I live in St. George Utah and I would be extremely happy to meet up with you sometime. Thanks again for the time and effort you spend making these videos as they have helped many I'm sure.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Hey Todd, thanks for watching. We plan to be together in Saint George a few times in October and will be doing a ride while we’re there. We’ll let you know we we do. Thanks for watching! -Joe

[@toddlarsen6812]

I'll be looking forward to it!

[@venkobby7404]

I just got the spring kit. It gives up a little bit of the handling because of the extra body roll but it makes the ride a lot softer. I ride trails and the dunes. I think it’s worth the 650

[@yellowsuzuki06]

You definitely carried more speed. Looked like a blast. Watch your front end. I wore out the ball joints.

[@gotalon]

New ST springs made a big difference in my Talon R 2seater, now I just need to take it in and have the internals done!👍 Did you get the front shocks over extending after Shock Therapy service? It’s noticeable in my 2R, so my next thing I need to do is add limit straps up front.

[@jeffadkisson8651]

Like the Kawi hat, I'm sure Honda appreciates too.

[@dunesanddesertsxss384]

Joe, great video, definitely informative, would love to hookup and go riding. Living in Tucson trying to learn more about the Phoenix area for riding

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Thanks. We’ll be putting together a ride in the phoenix area some time soon after it cools down. We’ll keep you posted. - Joe

[@boblaws9851]

Looking forward to getting Garrett's thoughts on ST on his KRX. Wish I were closer. I would love to be able to drive, or at least ride in it to compare it to mine with OEM. Just wish you guys had terrain that was a little more comparable to the rocky trails here in Colorado. Like you said, as good as the factory suspension is, and I think the KRX is king of that hill, there is always room for improvement. The hard part, as you found out, is trying to figure out the weight you carry. Solo or riding double (or more with the four seater), spare tire weight, other cargo weight, it all adds up and is calculated when they set up the valving and spring weights. A hundred pounds +/- can make a big difference in the setup, thus a big difference in the ride.

[@sakrifistthstdamnroe3236]

Ole's ride comparison videos floor me it's a UTV off-road vehicle if you want a Cadillac or Lincoln go buy one

[@DerangedOffRoad]

You left out a Jeep 👍 -Garrett

[@chrisfontana93]

Hey Joe. Once again this is a great video and helps out us other Talon FLV owners when we can see the products in action. I have purchased the windshield from your website. I do have an "off topic" question I am hoping you could answer. Have you had any issues with your transmission and/or shift cable? This seems to be a common issue talked about on many of the Talon forums and facebook.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Thanks for watching! I have not had any issues with the trans at all. I think the issue is a bit overblown. -Joe

[@kylefinch6349]

Let me know if your ever up north in the show low Eagar area, I’ve got a x4 fox live valve and would love to check it out thinking of doing the same thing.

[@billyowell0113]

Thanks for the review Joe. A 1000-4 FLV owner and enjoying every minute. I'm in Bullhead City and ride the Black Mountains a lot. Challenges galore and the trails are quite rocky and rough. If you're up this way hit me up. One non-related question, how does your windshield work in the heat? I've been considering but wonder about that. I don't want to invest for nothing. Dust in the cab, heat, etc.? Thanks for the info!

[@DerangedOffRoad]

I’ve been really happy with the windshield. The vents open up wide and let a ton of air through. Hard to say with dust. I’ve had it on from close to the beginning and I have the door inserts as well. -Joe

[@1gadgetsgeek]

I have Talon X 4 live valve, would love to ride along. I live in Utah.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Thanks for watching. We’ll be at the UTV Takeover and SXS adventure rally in October. Look for us there. -Joe

[@ericthompson1629]

We need a review on the HRC long arm kit

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Agree, we would love to do it.

[@deekum1627]

Cool video glad to see your happy with it. I'm wondering if I should wait for Weller or go with shock therapy

[@DerangedOffRoad]

I don’t think Weller is too far out. I just couldn’t wait. -Joe

[@deekum1627]

@@DerangedOffRoad they not I just talk to them the other day. So we shall see.

[@OdysseyOffroad]

Cool review. Curious to hear what Garrett does with his shocks. I love the way my stock krx rides but if springs sag like others I'll prob go with at least a spring kit from someone. Oh and Joe,. Ya wearin the wrong hat brotha! Haha.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

I’ll do a review as well on the outcome. -Garrett

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Alight, I’ll buy a Honda hat! 😂

[@gravesru]

Shock therapy has a good video on how to properly tie down a utv. You should check it out.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

😂 I was expecting Justin to run out and give me crap when I pulled up... haven’t failed me yet but I’m working on it. -Joe

[@gravesru]

Deranged Off-Road I mounted 4 5ft e-tracks on my trailer. Then I use the Erickson e-chocks, and Erickson e-straps that go over the top of tires. Absolutely best option in my opinion

[@DerangedOffRoad]

That’s the plan.

[@Review-This]

Looks like Queen Valley

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Queen Valley indeed. -Joe

[@duridersa]

Whats the range on a tank?

[@nogrey]

I've been looking at new Talons. The fox live valve system looks (and feels) quite a bit better than the talons with the manual adjust valves. Of course, the cost reflects that. Your video has me wondering if it might be better to purchase a new 2019 or 2020 Talon for the savings and then have the shocks modified like you did. What are your thoughts on that?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

It will be better after you send it to Shock Therapy or other shock work companies. The benefit of live valve is adjusting on the fly based one terrain and driver input or going from soft to stiff without having to get out of your car. It also comes with 2.5 shocks all around where the standard comes with 2.0 in front and 2.5 in rear. I’m a big fan of the Live Valve system but both are great cars. -Joe

[@Rucker537]

Great video! I live in East Mesa and was looking for places to ride. Just purchased a Polaris Pro XP4 and was wondering where that trailhead is. Can you give me directions to that staging location?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Congrats on the new rig. It’s the Montana mountain loop trail head. Staging area is directly across from the Boyce Thompson Arboretum. -Joe

[@Rucker537]

@@DerangedOffRoad Excellent, thank you for your help and keep the informative videos coming.

[@Smoking.1911]

I Live in the Phoenix area were is that area that your riding located. I just bought a 2020 live vale but have been out of off Roading for years. Looking for places to ride.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Queen Valley area. It’s part of the Montana mtn loop trail. Staging area is across from the Boyce Thompson Arboretum. -Joe

[@troymcdonald6750]

How much does shock therapy charge labor wise for the install on vehichle

[@DerangedOffRoad]

I think it’s the same price either way. Invoice showed $100 but I think that is related to the actual rebuild of shocks. -Joe

[@DougH98008]

Joe, I am in Arizona, I live about 30 minutes from where you were riding in this video at Montana Mountain Trail. I just bought a 2021 X Live Value 2 seater. Seriously considering the Shock Therapy upgrade but would love to ride one with it first. Any chance we can connect on a trail so I can check yours out?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

I’m tied up for the next few weekends. Shoot us an email and I’ll let you know the next time I go on a ride. -Joe [e-mail]

[@aracelihernandez1180]

Hi Joe great video. One question what's the top speed on a the Talon?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

68-ish with stock tires.

[@AnthonyAce9060]

I've gone 74-75 a few times on long straightaways in mine.

[@sferg9582]

Like Yogi Berra said, "When you come to a fork in the road.... take it."

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Haha! I was a little indecisive on that one... 😜 -Joe

[@scott1111]

Awesome video, I’m in the market to buy a Talon live valve if I can find one in the next few weeks lol What size trailer do you have?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

14’ tandem. Tows awesome, fits perfect. -Joe

[@scott1111]

@@DerangedOffRoad Awesome, thank u.....

[@MV-dd3de]

What size trailer do you have there?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

14’ Rockland tandem axle. -Joe

[@brennansmullen76]

Good video but it could have been 5-10 min 😵

[@IFlyHeliz]

Where are you parked at the first of the video?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Montana Mtn loop staging area. -Joe

[@MarkSpencerAZ]

SO I recognize the area as one of my old stomping grounds, but I've been down in SE AZ for 20 years now. Where are you riding here?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Queen Valley area. It’s part of the Montana mtn loop trail. Staging area is across from the Boyce Thompson Arboretum. -Joe

[@zaleski727]

Just a bit of constructive critisism- you're intro is too loud, i was listening to this video while going to bed, so i turned it up to where i could hear you talking, then the intro comes on and blasts my ears lol, just a suggestion to match the audio levels.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Thanks brother. I usually level it out. Was 4 hours into this one and needed to get it posted. -Joe

[@toddd733]

Did you send them your shocks?

[@DerangedOffRoad]

I live in AZ so i was able to drop my rig up in the morning and pick it up later in the afternoon. VERY happy with the setup! -Joe

[@DUNEATV]

Loved the video...still not sold on the whole Shock Therapy thing thou.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Shock Therapy or just the whole shock thing

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Thanks brother. 👆🏻Shock work in general or just Shock Therapy? -Joe

[@DUNEATV]

Shock work in general...

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Having done it now in a believer. Hands down best thing I've done. I'll now equate not believing in shock work to not believing the earth is round.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

😂 Good one Dave.

[@briangarcia2358]

Cool video, but so many commercials... about a Dozen or so.

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Sorry about that. There's only supposed to be one mid roll add. Not sure what youtube is up to

[@Jaxon1127]

Driving a Honda with a Kawasaki hat 🤔

[@DerangedOffRoad]

Heck yeah, we drive all of them. 👍

[@sakrifistthstdamnroe3236]

I think all unsubscribe you

[@DerangedOffRoad]

10-4 good buddy. Over and out. -Joe