Honda Win in Vietnam - The Truth

The truth about the backpackers choice of motorbike the famous Honda Win.
Unreliable, useless and dam right dangerous motorbikes.
A market of cons, lies and upset travelers who bury their stories due to the embarrassment of being another backpacker who was ripped off in Vietnam.
Learn more about the Honda Win
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[@gablan1468]

I got myself one for 270 USD off a motorcycle shop in Hanoi. No license, no documents, no driving skills, no nothing was required to buy it. I remember it took me a week or so to learn to drive it. And then I explored almost everything with it. I took it to Cat Ba Island, then drove down all the way to Ho Chi Minh City with multiple and completely spontaneous stops on the way. I met a dozen of people and became good friends with all of them. Sometimes we rode in groups. It was my second time exploring Vietnam, this time on a motorcycle. I enjoyed it a million times more. Then I crossed the border and took it to Cambodia. The border police didn't even notice that I had a bike with me as I was signing the documents. Went on to explore all of Cambodia with it too. And then I took it further to Laos to finish off the trip in Luang Prabang before I sold it to an Italian guy for the same price I got it. It took me a good few months to complete this trip. I was taking my time and enjoyed every single moment. You have no freaking clue how many memories this journey brings. It didn't break down not even once and it took me everywhere I wanted. I now have the motorcycle tattooed on my arm.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

I am very happy you had a successful trip on your motorbike without problems. However to briefly counter, just because you had a successful trip doesn't mean the average backpacker does. Also, as can be seen with most "pro" win comments. They are from new drivers. The reality is, an experienced driver won't touch a Win. They know better. Next journey, try a proper motorbike, then you will be in a position to have an understanding of what you were missing out on.

[@gablan1468]

@@Tigitmotorbikes I am already a proud owner of arguably the best bike on the market... The Honda XL600V Transalp ;) Nevertheless, the bike is just a tool, many people have much more expensive bikes but don't dare to go anywhere! I assure you that if I ever go back to Vietnam (hopefully I will) I'll most likely get my hands on yet another Honda Win!

[@karelvandeschoor6313]

@@Tigitmotorbikes I am such an experienced driver (did about 20.000km/year for 5 years) and I won't even touch a Chinese copy of a wave/blade, I want the real thing. People don't seem to understand how dangerous traffic is there, and they romanticize the risks. The reality is that in my whole life in Belgium, i've seen only one person dead on the street after an accident. In Vietnam, i've seen 11 in 5 years. That's not counting the numerous injured people, people in severe pain, people in a coma, people with a spine injury etc. You risk your life there and a well maintained safe bike is an absolute necessity.

[@AlexSol1]

We bought a Win and cross Vietnam with it. Changed the rear brake pads and bearing before the trip for about $10. Lost out muffler somewhere in the mountains and had a used one fitted for about $5. Had a seal changed because oil started leaking for another $5. Changed fuel filter and hose for $1. Had carbs adjusted for free. That was it for the whole trip. $21 of repairs and about $25-$30 worth of oil changes. The bike took my girlfriend and I as well as our 2 big backpacks from Saigon to Hanoi, passing through SaPa, mountains, dirt road and a lot more without any real issues. I'll never regret buying that thing ;) I think it's a very good idea to have the bike serviced before a trip like that.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Congrats on buying a good bike and glad you enjoyed the holiday! It sounds like you A) knew something about bikes or B) found an honest mechanic who actually attempted to service it before the journey. Your list of problems are not serious... but plentiful for a single journey, and there are many travelers that do not have the time, or are not equipped to deal with issues like this. An honest review and reflection of the bike though and it is nice to read something that is not just "no breakdowns". Thanks for the comment!

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

I thought that sounded like a lot of issues for a shortish trip, too.

[@stufoo]

@@user-sw2lv3zp6o cross country is not a short trip

[@benzmansl65amg]

I rented an XR 150. I drove 4000 km. I did none of these things. Just rode.

[@sergiof4528]

Thing is most travellers won't have time and knowledge to buy a genuine one. 200-400km oil change lol I can understand your point + makes sense for your business but Honda Win copies are not the end of the world. If backpackers keep buying and selling it's because it (more or less) works.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Appreciate the comment! Nothing against the Win if people understand what they are buying. What I dislike is the dishonest circle of lies from both backpackers and dealers. These bikes are incredibly low quality and are basically toys. They do not go up and down this country with "no breakdowns". Yes they will make it.... but this usually requires multiple breakdowns with both time and money spent in mechanic shops. They are often sold and purchased in very dangerous conditions and by law of averages it is far cheaper and safer to rent a proper motorbike. As with everything, depends on the character and needs of the buyer. For the average backpacker, it is the wrong choice of bike.

[@karelvandeschoor6313]

@@Tigitmotorbikes backpackers think they've been 'adventurous' when they've been riding a dangerous bike. On top of that they get cheated all the time when they need repairs. What costs 100k to a viet costs a million vnd to a backpacker. Bad maintenance can cost you your life! I once rented a honda wave from a colleague of yours in Hanoi. Just as I was turning left, with a truck approaching from the right, the engine stalled. I managed to put it in neutral and push myself out of the way just in time to avoid getting hit by the truck. The reason? That agency used cheap mechanics. Many of these self-taught mechanics know shit about electricity or ignition, so you get stalls all the time. That;s the kind of mechanics backpackers use too, but they think it's romantic. Stupid! Get a good bike! If you can't even rent a decent bike for a few weeks: stay at home. You'll be a danger to yourself and to others.

[@user-sw2lv3zp6o]

Fascinating debate down below. I'll be renting an Exciter when I come over.

[@gottaloveit66]

I bought a Chinese Honda Wave copy secondhand in Saigon and a buddy bought a Win. We serviced them once as soon as we picked them up and again in Dalat and had absolutely no problems apart from one flat tyre on the Win all the way to Sapa,quick visit to Mai Chau and down to Hanoi where we gave both of them to a couple of young locals for free. Ride them steadily,check them over at the end of each day and they're fine. The same Chinese bike as mine was on special in Dalat at the local dealer across the road from the Honda dealer for $299 USD. Spoke to the guy and was told farmers buy them and only get two,hard years out of them up there,but the first thing they do is change the crappy standard tyres to Jap tyres. This was two years ago (2014). This video is great advice for inexperienced riders/backpackers and yes,the genuine Honda is much,much better. Cheers.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

This is the mentality that causes the problem. A backpacker buys a Chinese bike and has a successful holiday. Then goes around the internet saying they work. This is a numbers game. In the prime of us selling Honda Wins - We sold around 80 Wins a month, and had 2 disasters a month. Not a bad percentage.... but we were the best and largest Win dealer at the time. The stats for other companies and in particular backpacker to backpacker sales will be massively lower. The horror stories (which are frequent) are buried and not talked about due to shame and embarrassment of being another backpacker that bought a bike that never worked. Not exactly something most people are willing to blog about. Finally - it is not all about the reliability and breakdowns. Wins drive like crap and are not fun in relation to proper bikes. Happens regularly when experienced drivers go to buy these brand new Detech Wins. Then after a test drive know they nothing but pointless and unstable toys. They then go to our garage and get a proper bike. The Win market is a misleading joke online with backpackers sharing a one sided success story. There are a few videos out there now that do jokingly display the disaster holidays. These are created with a light heart, but behind the scenes it reveals a destroyed holiday.

[@gottaloveit66]

Tigit motorbikes it's not a 'mentality' mate,it's my experience. You have your side,others like me have our positive side to tell,both valid and informative for potential travellers. As for 'not all about reliability and not fun compared to proper bikes' that's subjective. I own a Z1000,a VFR800,a VT750 Bobber and a '79 Custom C90 yet the ride on the old Wave 110 was excellent fun and part of the whole experience of Vietnam. The previous time in 'Nam I rode a Minsk 125 boneshaker two stroke,broke down twice in 160km and then met some amazing locals,so if people speak of destroyed holidays because a bike broke down fair enough,but it can also lead to something unexpectedly good. Anyway,I'll be back over early next year so will come and share a beer and a yarn with you. Are you in the HCM shop? Great website by the way. Cheers!

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Yes, a good open conversation and 2 sides of a story! Backpackers that are adventure seekers buying crappy bikes and enjoying them is great. Leads to amazing adventures for sure, and this is how Tigit Motorbikes started. If all the backpackers where Adrenalin filled adventure seekers then I would be able to continue selling Honda Wins without worrying about my trip advisor reviews. A large number of backpackers motorbiking Vietnam really are not adventure seekers. These are the people that have holidays ruined. Only one side of the story is presented online and inexperienced riders come here thinking they are buying a working bike for $300. (when they are not). Apart from my website and a few other larger tours companies the facts over the Honda Win are buried. The young, adrenaline filled lads on tour are a small percentage of the total people travelling here. Consider the Honda Win being the main bike of focus and the easiest bike to sell to foreigners and then ask why no companies on trip advisor/review websites are selling them. Tigit - no Flamingo travel - From HCM only, and have no direct links or references within their website Off road Vietnam - no Cuong motorbike - no + all the Hanoi + Hoi An large scale tour companies - All no Which leaves only one company selling Chinese motorbikes on review sites! Style motorbikes Basically only pushing new bikes, and they don't promote or encourage the purchase of second hand bikes. Phuong Motorbikes are trying Reviews not looking so great though :) The average Backpacker is not an adventure seeker that will laugh and enjoy a breakdown. They will be jumping on the internet with a negative review over why a $300 motorbike kept on breaking down. Look at Phuong Motorbikes negative reviews on trip advisor to see how upset and misunderstood backpackers can get when buying a $300 motorbike. This is not the attitude of an adventure seeker. It is the attitude of someone who came on holiday thinking and believing that a $300 motorbike will get them 2000km across Vietnam without problems.

[@kevinclark2948]

I bought a Honda Win for $100 off a backpacker in Ho Chi Minh City. I've driven it every day since then, both for regular commutes and long distance travel. I've had it for over 4 months and other than the occasional 1 or 2 dollar repair (horn/lights/whatever stops working), it's worked perfectly. No wobbles. No problems. I love it. So don't listen to this guy. It's a reliable, useful, and safe motorbike to ride.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Each to their own, but a sample of "1" is not enough to make a statement. The overwhelming support is still in favor of this video, despite being a controversial topic among backpackers who have no motorbike experience.... Backpackers with motorbike experience would not be claiming the motorbike does not wobble. This is a clear indication that you have no idea what you are doing :) Thanks for the comment!

[@MuttsWithGuts]

@Tigit, whenever I see a youtube video done by a backpacker on "how to buy and ride a bike in Vietnam" and there is a honda win in the thumbnail, I skip it.

[@xxfutureisnowxx]

I did a month from Hanoi down to Saigon on Wins with some friends and it was an amazing trip. We knew to expect breakdowns and planned for the extra down time. With that said...THESE BIKES ARE SHIT. Everything you said is very true. They're also a death trap if you happen to have a critical failure at higher speeds. My same group of 6 will be doing the trip again this Sept, but in reverse. How far in advance would we need to lock down a handful of your XR150s?

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Book out around 1 month in advance. We always have stock problems. Thanks for the honest comment on the Win.

[@ryananouar]

Yes you are right know but for me the Detech win experience rhymes with Vietnam. I did Hanoi - HCMC twice passing by Sapa and did the Hi Giang Loop twice also...Always riding a detech (120cc and 127cc). This is the best thing i ever did in my life. Yes they are not reliable motobikes, i know that, but they are so so fun to drive and when they broke , just go to a repair shop , get it fixed for a few thousand dongs (and something even for FREE!) and keep going. One of the best humain experience i had was when my detech was broken in the middle of nowhere after a minor accident between Hanoi and Sapa. Some locals came to me to help me, offered me assistance, food, tea, fixed my bike and they didn't ask me no money, NOTHING! except exchanging a couple of words in english and a smile. Vietnamese people, specially on the country side are so generous, they don't have much but the little they have they are willing to share with you. Driving a detech is also a good way to make friends on the road. On my last trip, we started our road trip by 3, we finished it by 8! I made friends from all over the world and made souvenirs for the rest of my life. So for me, Having your cheap Detech broken and fixed is part of the fun. Just be away of what you are driving and don't take unnecessary risks. I can't imagine doing it again with an other bike.And its not even about the money, i can afford a better motorbike, but i won't.

[@taylorhutchings4612]

Bought a bike like this in Hue for 250 USD and it looked to be in good shape; went for a test drive and told the seller the only thing I wanted was for him to paint everything matte black. The battery was basically dead so I had to kick start it every morning and it took about 15 minutes before the turning lights started working (why don't new bikes have kick starters as well as electric?). It had a cheap Chinese engine and I can't remember how many mountains I rode up in first gear and then stopped at the top to let the thing cool down. Rode the thing to Saigon with no impactful problems and sold it for 150 USD. Best money i ever spent.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

They don't have kick starters to save weight. This is annoying

[@katherinek3578]

Rebuilt a honda win into a custom cafe racer in HCMC, so far I`m happy and not a single issue in 4 month of usage.....

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

It isn't about "issues or not". Do you have experience with real motorbikes? I am guessing not, or you would not be on a Honda Win :) They drive like toys and anyone with motorbike experience is shocked at the instability of them. The Win is dangerous.

[@katherinek3578]

i also have a nouvo 3, i mean, it is safe and stable, can carry a lot of groceries and gives an easy ride with even a heavy weight passanger, but there is something in a speedy solo drive on a win that I like. To be honest, there is almost nothing of Win left, my win is nearly entirely custom.....

[@boyloboyle5327]

how is it now dude?? does the engine hold up sound??

[@brian-beeler]

This video is so true. I have only once seen a local on a Win. The Honda Wave/Blade is a perfect bike to ride because it's both well built and repairable almost anywhere. Don't buy a Win. Don't drive a Win. Don't ride on a Win.

[@pinospin9588]

Honda Future also a good choice It's essentially a more powerful version of Honda Wave/Blade (125cc vs 110cc)

[@longanh5853]

Tôi sống ở việt nam và tôi vẫn đang sử dụng Honda Win (chinese) để sử dụng, 2023, nó khá rẻ và dễ tiếp cận so với thu nhập của tôi, nó cũng tiêu tốn rất ít xăng. Sau nửa năm sử dụng, tôi biết rằng cần thay đổi và sửa chữa rất nhiều phụ tùng chất lượng cao cho nó, để nó có thể đi phượt tốt lên các vùng rừng núi, bình xăng, vỏ xe, khung xe không có vấn đề gì, nếu bạn có đủ tiền, bạn sẽ muốn thay đèn pha, thay toàn bộ hệ thống phuộc trước (phuộc sau nếu cần), xi nhan, dây phanh và dây clutch cũng đã thoái hóa và cần thay, bạn cũng sẽ muốn có một bộ phanh đĩa tốt và cặp lốp mới, đôi khi bạn sẽ muốn độ thêm công tắc và đèn trợ sáng, đặt làm yên xe nếu bạn muốn 1 chiếc trông thật đẹp. Hệ thống điện rất có vấn đề, ắc quy cũng cần phải thay mới, hệ thống dây có thể đã bị xuống cấp theo thời gian, IC của xe dễ chết, bạn luôn cần 1 chiếc dự phòng cho nó nếu đi xa, cuộn cảm dưới động cơ cũng xuống cấp nhanh, bạn sẽ cần thay 1 cái đời mới thật sự chất lượng cho nó nếu muốn sử dụng lâu dài. Tất cả những thứ trên đã là quá nhiều cho 1 chiếc xe cũ, chưa tính đến việc động cơ có thể có vấn đề nếu bạn xui xẻo, tôi may mắn vì tìm được 1 chiếc xe không có vấn đề gì về động cơ sau từng ấy năm. Sau tất cả, tổng chi phí để có thể biến nó thành 1 chiếc xe đủ tốt, đã gần bằng việc mua 1 chiếc xe phổ thông khác, nó gần như làm mới toàn bộ xe, nên nếu bạn không thực sự thích chiếc xe này như 1 món đồ chơi và có dư dả tài chính, tốt nhất không nên mua nó. Tôi thật sự rất yêu chiếc xe này, bởi vì hình dáng, tôi cũng rất thích những chiếc Harley, nhưng việc sở hữu chiếc xe này giống như việc sở hữu 1 món đồ chơi nhỏ, thú thực nó đã giúp tôi hiểu hơn về xe máy sau khi mang nó đi sửa rất nhiều, mặc dù việc hỏng hóc giữa đường là một trải nghiệm khá tệ, nó đã biến tôi từ một người không biết gì về cơ khí và xe máy, trở thành 1 người biết đủ nhiều để có thể hiểu về chiếc xe của mình. Dẫu sao nó cũng đã giúp tôi rất nhiều trong những năm tháng khó khăn về tiền bạc khi mới bắt đầu sự nghiệp, nó đã là một phần của tôi. Cám ơn.

[@HanifNR]

what a beautiful city vietnam ❤

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

agreed

[@krisowler367]

There are literally millions of original Honda win here in Indonesia I have two I would like to get a few more.. maybe I should export some to Vietnam?

[@spencer4932]

If that is true then someone has already thought of that, times a million.

[@garethmcgarvie6026]

Having to go off-route to find someone to fix your bike, then meeting the locals and drinking tea and coffee with, all because the bike slowly fell apart made my Vietnam experience. You'll always find a kind and hospitable person willing to help (and also perhaps have a father propose to you on behalf of his daughter... Maybe just me then?), so if this is what you want from your Vietnam travels, ignore this sensible advice buy a 'Honda Win' anyway. I bought mine for US$120 and ended up selling it as well as a mates scooter for US$50 (yes, for both), as they were in such awful states by the time we got to Saigon - by the end I ended up using black tape to hold parts of the engine together :') Fun and games!... Happy travelling.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

There is no wrong in buying a cheap bike and enjoy fixing it as you go, providing that you know it's going to be broken.

[@MuttsWithGuts]

I have just bought a brand new 2019 Honda Winner, still got the hairs on the tyres. I worked a few extra hours and bought new, I can leave it at my friends house in Da Nang for when I need it. As for buying buckets of snot and calling it an adventure good luck to you with poor brakes, shit lighting at night, sagging suspension. The upside I suppose is your giving the local mechanics are few extra bucks. Me I prefer to have confidence in my machines and enjoy my adventures without worrying about breaking down in the middle of Bum f*ck.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Agreed. Win drivers are naive is the problem. Vietnamese perfectly happy to take advantage of this :)

[@pinospin9588]

One of the bike in Vietnam that also good for backpacking is Honda CB250 It's quite powerful, able to pack a lot of cargo It's also the vehicle of choice for Vietnamese law enforcement Too bad they're old, and require full license in order to ride it (in here is A2)

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Sure there are many great bikes. But very difficult to find such bikes.

[@pinospin9588]

That bike isn't so hard to search for, but the real problem is most of the sellers is police officers, and police bike in Vietnam is notorious for badly maintenance and abusive (which mean finding a good one is like you have a free real estate)

[@JohnnyJimsAZ]

John, at the end of this year I will be moving to Vietnam permanently. I will be an ex Pat that will be traveling the country from Ho Chi Minh to Hanoi and then up into Thailand to see my brother. My experience with Chinese products is that they are complete trash and will only last a certain amount of time before they fall apart. I’ve been to Asia many times and I have seen this happen over and over. So, in your opinion since Honda is the number one best lasting brand what would be the best scooter for me to purchase?

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

You buy a Honda Wave or Honda Blade. Just make sure it is real!

[@mrwilljhorton]

Indicators don't self-cancel bro

[@drcubis]

Very informative and helpful video, thank you

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

No problem. The more people that understand the truth the better!

[@spencer4932]

These pieces of crap are everywhere in Cambodia. The backpackers get ripped off in Vietnam and ride over and try and sell them here to other gullible backpackers, or often they are just left at houses/backpacker accommodation. It's also impossible to get them repaired outside of Kampot (a backpacker favourite) as they do not exist here on the home market.

[@soongpark683]

yes china has two honda shindaejoo & wooyang win is cg 125 also its ok they are japan honda made in china company before

[@finbertram2649]

Breaking down is the fun part about it 😂

[@karelvandeschoor6313]

except if it's your brakes that break down just when someone cuts you off. I've seen numerous backpackers with an arm or a leg in a cast. They've watched Jeremy Clarkson on TV, but they don't realize his program was carefully prepared, he had a camera crew, a director, a road manager, a personal assistent, 3 suv's following him, and a luxury air conditioned suv with a trailer for covering the distance when they were not filming (which was 90% of the time). Nice hotels with good security were booked in advance, they had a tight schedule and financial plan, and they were insured for every thinkable and unthinkable event. Now you've got these backpackers who can't even spare the deposit for getting themselves a safe quality bike, but they think they are Jeremy Clarkson and they can do everything they think he did. When push comes to shove they spend half their time getting cheated by an amateur mechanic who doesn't give a hoot about whether they crash one mile down the road or not. You can't cure stupid.

[@pinospin9588]

I'd say, get Suzuki GD110 if you like the look that similar to Honda Win 100 They're easier to get and much more modern and reliable Ofc Suzuki's after service in Vietnam is often questionable

[@Tom38363]

I am planning a trip to Vietnam to buy a cheap motorbike and drive through the country... So it will be probably a Honda Win :D. So from my point of view there are two sides: On the one hand there are the backpackers: All of the backpackers that I know had the honda win. Yes indeed they had issues with it. Sometimes more, sometimes less. In the end they just fixed things for a few dollars and went on. Indeed it can get quite annoying but what is the alternative? And on the other hand, you: All you say is to buy a better motorbike. Yeah, i would love to spend thousands of dollars on a really nice motorbike but i cant do it. So how I understood you: Its better to buy a good reliable bike and save maintenance costs. So how does this makes sense. Even you said it can cost around 100 $... Well thats nothing compared to a better bike that costs easily over 1000$. I buy a honda win for 200 and... well I can spend really a lot of money to fix it :D. And the next part, i am an unexperienced driver (at least in Vietnam) so how can I really sell such an expensive bike. The answer is: I would have the stress of my life to get a good price for it. So what exactly ruins my holiday? An expensive bike where i have to find a buyer in a country where I don't speak the language or some break downs which are, indeed, quite annoying but not a big deal. And if its really broken? Who cares in the end? 200-300$ are still better than an expensive motorbike which is not insured, where I need to find a buyer (no backpackers...), it can get stolen, etc, etc... I get your point. You want to inform the "rich" backpackers or tourist. And I am totally with you. If you have the money, go get a good bike but I think thats always like that. If you have money you can always make experiences better... I will definitely buy the honda win. Why? Because I have no choice. I buy it or I can stay home and dream from this trip. I don't want to put up a fight here. I think you are way more experienced than I am (and I would really appreciate it, if you would show up with an alternative) but really, I think there is not a real one except spend a lot of money.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Thanks for the comment, and happy you have seen the video and are now in a position to make a judgement for yourself. 1. On cost, as stated in the video, when taking into account breakdown expenses, regular oil changes on Chinese bikes and bad fuel economy it will be found that renting a proper bike ends up being a similar cost over a journey. 2. Safety is a factor commonly missed by backpackers. Chinese motorbikes are not safe, and this isn't even up for debate. This is a fact. Assuming a $300 toy motorbike is "safe" for a road trip like this is nothing but brainless. 3. Cost, safety... How about performance ? A Honda Win is not a motorbike and does not drive like a motorbike. There is no pleasure in this. Unfortunately most backpackers do not have experience to know what a real motorbike drives like, and so are left in the dark on this decision. You have stated that you are a new driver. So you fall nicely into this category. 4th and finally - The majority of backpackers pretend to be poor :) They have money, a $1000 deposit and a $200 rental to get a proper, reliable and safe motorbike is peanuts for most backpacking budgets. I think you have the idea of "buying" a $1000 bike confused with the idea of "renting" a $1000 bike. Companies like Tigit will rent bikes, there is no need to sell it.

[@no-damn-alias]

well, buy not a 50cc Chinese bike, rather buy a 100cc or a 107/110 cc bike, with semi-automatic, be careful with the 125cc engines from china they may be very bad, those lying one cylinder engines are not a miracle, you just need to know very basic things and it's easy to keep such an engine running, and even if your engine blows up, all chinese lying one cylinders are having the same mounting points you can get a new one for a 150 bucks! Disconnect old engine and connect new engine, as easy as that, if you need further information, sign up in the German honda-innova.de and we can definetly help you, just introduce yourself in English in ,, Mitgliedervorstellung``we have many pictures and we plan to do an FAQ for what to look out on those engines, except for low engine oil these engines are practicly undestroyable, we have people in the forum with almost 100.000miles on them you just need proper maintance, which is the biggest issue because people think, naah it's cheao I don't need to take care of it, and fuel consumption is also very, good. My chinese 125 semi automatic, when going 50MPH all day I get 125MPG or 1.9L/100KM which isn't bad at all

[@maxpayne8304]

You have little money for a motorbike and you are a inexperienced rider. A Honda Win will save you a couple of hundred dollars vs buying a cheap new one IF everything that occurs along your trip is just fixing it at a local mechanic after a breakdown. BUT what happens if you have an accident BECAUSE of the bikes quality. Let‘s say your breaks don‘t work well and you crash and get severly injured? We‘re talking about many thousands of dollars. No insurance will handle the costs (totally). Plus the pain you could be going through. Maybe your spine will get injured and you end up in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. Ok... I really don‘t want to dramatize any more and I also hope you a good motorcycle trip. But you understand what I‘m trying to point out? ride safe

[@MuttsWithGuts]

You blokes do road side assist as well don't you? I have only ever rented near new bikes throughout Indonesia and Vietnam, Any dramas and your a phone call away.

[@MuttsWithGuts]

Dead right (pun intended). I met a bloke in Indonesia that hired a piece of crap in Northern Sumatra, the hand grip came away from the handlebar and stacked it at 60 k an hour. Took bark off his arms and messed his helmet up too (good job he was wearing a helmet). That was the end of his trip, period.

[@thdeus555]

I've done 10.000km through Laos, Cambodia and of course Vietnam with a real 1993 Honda win 🔥

[@usedpedals]

Good information. I'm from china and I'm thinking about going to visit in vietnam and take a motorcycle tour from hanoi to saigon. I've read some info online about the options of bikes and one thing baffles me. Just like you are saying, many blogs/forums say that the chinese copies of the "honda win" are bad and unreliable. I totally get this cause I know how crappy chinese products can be. The thing is, I own a motorbike here in china and I know pretty well about most of the bikes that are produced in china. I've never seen or even heard such a thing as the "honda win". Are you sure these so called "chinese copy cats" are really made in china? If yes, what brand(s) are they? ALso, if I were going to buy a bike/scooter in vietnam and sell it later, what's the best option? I've seen quite a few videos and websites but I found all the bikes are rusty and in bad shape. I need something that's reliable and safe but cant be too expensive. I've rented and ridden bikes in thailand and malaysia it seems that vietnam offers poorer quality bikes for a higher price. Thanks.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Hi Thanks for the comment. The bike is "chinese" is just a generic phrase used to describe a low quality product. You are right, it does not necessarily mean that it is actually made in China. You have korean copies, Vietnamese copies. Essentially, just unbranded bikes from random small companies. (not honda, suzuki, SYM, Yamaha). "Chinese" is just the term used for low quality. For example, a Suzuki GN is a very old Japanese bike. I would classify it as "chinese" because all the parts are now low quality due to the way motorbikes are maintained here. There are only a handful of motorbike companies that have survived on trip advisor. This is because they offer a good service with good (and genuine) motorbikes. We are one of them, www.tigitmotorbikes.com and there are a few others. You will see many street dealers with no online reputation, and yes their business model is to buy and sell cheap motorbikes with very, very low profit margins. So low that there is no room to bother fixing the motorbike. Backpackers shoot themselves in the foot by negotiating prices into the floor so that there is no point in fixing anything. The larger dealers/rental companies stay away from these "chinese motorbikes" as the risk of negative reviews is enormous. Only stick to offering genuine motorbikes that actually work to people who know what they are doing. You should be using one of our Honda Blades :)

[@usedpedals]

Thanks man. Again great info. That explains the mystery. Cause china stopped making those kind of bikes(similar ones but not the wins I believe) decades ago. You have a nice website. The bikes on it seem to be in better shape and had propper maintenance. I would consider to get one from you if the trip happens. I assume the blades are 100/110cc, right? The yamaha exciter looks nice.

[@theravs7494]

Real one doesn't have electric starter and made in indonesia

[@harryhannas99]

if we were to buy one, what should we look for ?

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Sorry you lost me at "if we were to buy one".

[@maldobostero12]

@@Tigitmotorbikes your helpfulness is good for your business :)

[@nikolaunfit]

Thank you, just helped me decide NOT to rent from foreign tigit and buy from a local the shitty Chinese copy.

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Glad I could help.

[@AkaKoii]

Wow!

[@erwinramdhany]

Who in 2023?

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Good question

[@cjjvideos3920]

They are from Indonesia not Thailand you have no idea what you're talking about. I bought mine for $500

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

:D Honda Wins are copies, and they are copies made by many different companies. So yes, some Honda Wins are made in Indonesia, some are made in Vietnam, and some in China. Honda Win Detech, Honda Win Mekado, Honda Win Ferolli etc etc etc

[@alexspeciale7748]

Wrong. Honda Wins are made by Honda, and they were all assembled in Indonesia. If it came from somewhere else, it's not a Honda Win.Everyone who calls non Honda bikes Honda Wins is wrong.

[@matteonguyen6324]

Are U Australian or British ?

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

British

[@vidhipuri3252]

「ビデオコンテンツはとても素晴らしいです、おめで

[@soongpark683]

indonesia has better condition honda win and honda win is good model honda

[@onizuka4534]

Well, show me the bike better for this price

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

My gut response is, any bike on the planet. But link below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/moHLl4yfhtV7fKs

[@pinospin9588]

If you need the manual bike that have best quality to money ratio Get Suzuki Axelo

[@TeunS133N]

Thank you so much! Won't get this shitty bike because of this

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Good decision.

[@jcyber69]

got mine for free of this cute Danish chick, runs like a winner! this dude is just thing to promote his business or a friend's

[@Tigitmotorbikes]

Ah the brainless comment from 1 guy with 1 bike on 1 holiday and 0 experience. I am happy you have bought a working Win from a cute chick, this does not mean that other people will be as lucky as you are. Not sure your cute chick will feel the same way when she sold the bike "for free" and presumably made a significant loss on it. A numbers game, I can buy (x) amount of Wins and (x) amount of them will work. This is common sense. I can buy (x) amount of $300 cars and some of them will work. This does not make it a sensible statistical purchase. Putting this aside though, Wins are toys and drive like toys. Drive a toy or drive a bike, different holidays for different people. My video is simply here to educate and inform about this so travelers can get the right bike and have the holiday that is correct for them. Be it a Win or something else. Thanks for the comment!