Honest First Thoughts Into Honkai Star Rail (As a Genshin Player)

[@poklours4257]

For now, I love it. The overall writing feels different from Genshin, it's both more adult (they openly talk about people death and misery), and at the same time, it's more comedic, and sometimes completely absurd in some interactions. You can feel that they had a lot of fun in the writing. It gives me some old school japanese RPG vibes. I didn't play Honkai impact, and that was the most worrying part for me, but I haven't felt bad about it so far, everything is properly explained and the characters don't feel like you should know them.

[@nyes4596]

Didn't Genshin also talk about death many times (and misery) ?

[@rushalias8511]

@@nyes4596 yes....yes they did I'm trying to figure out what game pok is playing, because we have cases of human experimentation, wars, various characters who suffered loss and so on. Like the only difference between the two, is Genshin hides some of its dark side under all the bright colors. Like...Genshin's world is actually kind of disturbing when you think about how some of the people suffered. Curse to be monsters/immortality for Khaenriah's, forced to commit suicide like Orabashi, child puppet kins and sacrificed for enkanomiya, total genocide for sal vinyl, fallout from the archons war, the entire golden dirge questline. The list goes on.

[@nyes4596]

@@rushalias8511 Yes, exactly!

[@poklours4257]

@@rushalias8511 Yes, that's what I meant, in Genshin it's kind of hidden everywhere, not in plain sight. I remember reading about cannibalism in the Gurabad chronicles and being like "ok wtf" xD In Honkai, I just ran into people straight up telling me there were casualities in the initial attack on Herta's space station. I don't remember hearing about that after the Stormeterror attack for example. But yeah, that was a super early impression, doesn't really mean it's true. Take it as a random thought I had while discovering the game.

[@reezwave]

@@nyes4596 The thing is, genshin is more subtle because the game is more focused on kids, especially how Paimon treat us, explaining everything like we can't understand shit.

[@Mizukiluver]

As a fan of Hi3rd and turn based games, I've had a blast playing so far.

[@diegoquintana4051]

same

[@Enes-uv6su]

As both Genshin and Persona fan this is dream come true i love every aspect of the game, also devs really improved quality of life changes and im here for itt!!

[@Shokukun]

Very disappointed Seele and Bronya didn’t start immediately making out in their first interactions but still.. good game

[@arkoprobhoroy9778]

Cocolia getting in their way ..AGAIN

[@jnliewmichael4235]

​@@arkoprobhoroy9778 I swear, every iteration of Seele and Bronya in future Hoyoverse games are gonna have Cocolia fuck something up between them!

[@ErisCalamitasButFR]

Cocolia really said "screw the gays" huh

[@arkoprobhoroy9778]

@@jnliewmichael4235 Her intentions always start of nice but she somehow finds a way to fuck up royally.

[@bazah23]

💀

[@wendigoxavier5977]

Hoyoverse having diverse games in their portfolio gives me confidence that video games will have a good future (just don't look at AAA western games which are mostly copy-paste and unfinished)

[@ChillwithAster]

Yes! It being a TRPG was such a massive reason I got interested in HSR

[@domb.1522]

Yep, so true. At least companies like mihoyo, or yes even western indie game developers, put actual work into making a good product. Unlike AAA developers like EA or Activison that are all about making money.

[@captaindanger13]

@@domb.1522 i mean mihoyo also is trying to make a bunch of money, but they actually put effort into their games so they can earn their money instead of putting out unfinished sequels or the same game but buggier with better graphics and getting money from super fans who only buy the games cuz of either nostalgia or the company has exclusive rights to make that official sports games (lookin at you, EA).

[@THexas]

@@domb.1522 but mihoyo literally making money with this game with all the bs gacha. WDYM BRO

[@tragictraveller]

@@THexastrue, but paying for the game is 100% optional, unlike most western games that you usually have to pay to play. i think they just mean that while the gacha business model has its flaws, it makes the full game accessible to more players

[@daydream10.18]

The item system is called "Relics" (like artifacts in GI). You can access it at LVL 15 but actually open the domain to farm them at LVL 24.

[@BladeSerph]

I know its a dated response but very sure they meant `consumables`, not equips. -Relics are Star rails` equilvency of genshin`s Artifacts, system is basically 1:1 with main affix and sub affix. Being almost the same exact lines with a few swapped out such as having things like `effect hit`, `effect resistance`, `speed`, etc. but you still have flat hp/atk, % atk/hp, specific element dmg (especially on main stat), crit chance, crit damage, etc. Even goes thru the same farm method of burning resin on a `domain` to roll a chance of a half a dozen or so relics, typically 2 purples (since i think only whalers would be above trail blaze level 40 and have access to GOLD relics by now) and a crap ton of disposable blue/green relics to burn for exp. The only BOON i can tell so far is the fact you can scrap relics for relic EXP if you wanna clean your inventory, though you could still end up burning dozens of relics in the 9~12 upgrades and likely gets way higher with the `gold tier` ones. -You also have Planetary relics which basically replace the 5th slot with a separate 2 slot system aka MOAR relic grind that is basically the same, just with a 2 set effect specific to a % bonus plus a boon typically about having high speed (120 for most with the break one requiring a whooping 145!!!) that pretty much doubles up the first bonus or some other effect like a small team dmg buff long as that unit`s speed is high enough. Ultimately, same exact stupid genshin artifact grind of constantly rerolling fresh copies with resin burn and lvling till you have the right main affix, the right batch of sub affixes you want and all random level ups land on the sub affix you WANT to level. -CONSUMABLES, are pretty much a dumbed down version of cooking recipes, most are just ways to heal, revive and recover TP/ultimate energy. Though a few do give sizable stat buffs, which are gonna be abused like CRAZY, to deal with higher level content.

[@emperormaxwell432]

The auto battle is a life saver for me since this will only be a side game, something I can have playing in the background while playing something else. Like I had this playing for a couple hours while farming in FGO.

[@nothingbutsomeone3934]

So.. you' re not really playing the game, what' s the point of it? Genuinely asking, because I see no reason to play a game if you just leave it on the background to play other games besides "being efficient" or something like that

[@ezzyshian]

​@@nothingbutsomeone3934 Farming in turn-based game is REALLY slow if you're not auto, basically a life saver. For quests however, why would you auto lol.

[@nothingbutsomeone3934]

@@ezzyshian Yeah, haven't thought of that, it' s just that they generalized it as playing it auto all the time which.. I don't understand xD Autoing farming tho? Yeah 100% understand that

[@emperormaxwell432]

@@nothingbutsomeone3934 I still read the story, farm for my characters its just you may find the process of pressing X or square at nauseum entertaining, but I do not.

[@emperormaxwell432]

Sorry but another thing I forgot to mention is that HSR is my 10th gacha I actively play and after work, I generally only have a few hours to play anything. Much of my daily grinds get done while at work so games like Arknights, Azur Lane, Blue Archive, Project Neural cloud, and others can be played on auto while I’m working. Unfortunately HSR will likely have to be played during my limited home time as Hoyo games freak out when I’m on my vpn at work.

[@JohanKoken]

As a day 1 Honkai Impact 3rd player i can say you don't need to know the lore of HI3 to get the lore in HSR. Only thing is seeing Himeko here brings tears to my eyes. :S I know more HI3 players will get me.

[@websiter]

..... I'm not crying.....my eyes are sweaty. v_v

[@studiesinflux1304]

I had the tear jerker moment in Honkai Impact 3rd but feel no such thing for the HSR Himeko… do I need to get farther in the plot to relate them more? (I am currently at the story that needs you to be trailblaze rank 14 to pass.)

[@ayamii37]

Another HI3 player here, I cried too

[@fabricio3185]

@@studiesinflux1304 I really hope not!!! They better not do my girl Himeko wrong again. I have no more tears to drop if something happens to her again!! But answering to you a star as I know so far HSR Himeko is fine so no reason to cry for her. I guess what OP meant was he got emotional seeing her again after what happened to her counterpart on HI3.

[@ExtraExcessive]

New games is always a good hype. I wonder how the game is going to feel in the lnog run!

[@unclechair2208]

As a Honkai and Genshin player I am pretty happy with it, thought I would not like the turn based gameplay but I tried due to my man Welt being there and talking to trash cans made me love the game, story is pretty interesting so far so I might stick around

[@A_KawaiiPotato]

I quite enjoy it so far, and I personally don't mind it being pretty casual. It's pretty chill and I like the atmosphere. Hope you have a good day Aster

[@captaindanger13]

Yeah I like how casual the game is. I wouldn’t be able to handle another grindy game on top of genshin. Lol

[@_xadrnx_6371]

The Story pacing is so good I usually get bored easily but I was so focused and listened to what everyone said, must be the years of playing genshin

[@whoami_whyami]

ive personally been having a blast playing star rail, yesterday i played for about 13 hours straight 💀

[@Devenvb]

I played it too its kinda fun to play if you have more characters and stuff🙂

[@brainrot7956]

I actually was hesitant to pick up hsr because I didn't think i would enjoy turn based rpg. I guess turn base rpg just isnt as fun to watch (since my impression on the game previous was from watching videos about it)? but when i play it myself I actually really enjoy it. And the character movement in open world is so smooth. I also really enjoy mc character, they are such a troll and their interaction with danheng and march, the dynamic between them is so fun. It's also nice that since mc doesn't know what's happening and a lot of players like me barely know much about honkai universe, it's good to follow the story from their stand point.

[@versatileintrovert]

I see... I may like it, looks more simple to pick up than Tower, but the thing is I'm quite busy as is, usually I read people complain that in Genshin there's nothing to do, while I haven't finished my hangouts, world quests, Enkanomiya, character story quests and my favourite characters still struggle to clear the abyss T.T I'm not about to pick up another game and then be frustrated I don't have enough time, lol

[@hermdude]

7:40 With regards to skill trees, that's an import from HI3 rather than Genshin. Perhaps the dev team also see that Genshin's skill tree is too simplified that they use HI3's skill tree instead? Only they would know.

[@maty9841]

let me just say that i enjoyed SO MUCH that the characters so far are actually clever and not leaning into the 🤪🤪🤪i dont get it explain it to me slowly. while i agree that the lore is progressing quickly, i am enjoying the chemistry between the trio so much so far because they so far are being very well developed. and the voice acting is so✓✓✓✓✓✓

[@jonathandavies1716]

Combat wise sounds like it would suit me. I find I tend to lean towards passives and end up leaning on a couple of core skills and ignoring the rest.

[@zyzhang1130]

The thing with non gatcha turn based games is that u will have much fewer playable characters, so it makes sense to have a much larger skill set per character. I don’t think gatcha game can afford to do that

[@ChillwithAster]

A par for the course in terms of design I guess, I hope it doesn't bog down the game in the long run - and by long run, I mean YEARS into the future

[@zyzhang1130]

@@ChillwithAster i agree with you. I really like that lore aspect of it (had HI3 background) so I also hope I won’t get too much fatigue from the gameplay aspect to the point where it hinders me enjoying its story

[@daydream10.18]

​@@ChillwithAster they did remove the daily commission so that'll significantly help the players from feeling burned out from the game.

[@iosis9324]

@@daydream10.18 Em, no. They just changed them a little and now you can choose commissions.

[@daydream10.18]

@@iosis9324 yeah, but you can only do like one commission a day, though?

[@aoki395]

I actually love the auto battle, I think it fight better than me. Maybe because I’m still getting use to the system. Right now my focus is on the plot, story and character interaction. They definitely deliver on that plus the trash, toilet portal and other surprises waiting.

[@LadyL2121]

As Genshin Impact player this is so different with some similarities but overall I really enjoy the game so far and I’m already on level seventeen. And this time I am going to try not use my gems right off the bat.

[@mmm4093]

it's pretty good so far, and the characters will definitely carry it, story-wise I got hooked almost immediately unlike Genshin where it took Signora to kick Venti to get me interested in the story.

[@blame4213]

The fact that pimon Is not in this game made me more engaged to read, after finishing the story I got the gist of it and over all plot. I'm excited to meet other eons and who elio is

[@BitSharkGames]

I've really enjoyed playing this game and so far I'm still loving the story. But I also agree a lot of terms were hurls at us in the beginning which resulted in a bit of confusion on my end haha

[@tragictraveller]

it took me some time to get into it, but now I love it. the story on Jarilo VI is sufficiently engaging and the final boss battle for that works was a banger, it gave me goosebumps. currently grinding to get my adventure rank up (or whatever Honkai SR calls it) so i can progress in Xianzhou Luofu while waiting impatiently for Fontaine’s release!

[@TheHetzer-xy9lb]

The biggest problem with the early game for me is the rapid fire new terms. That will probably be only a problem for early though.

[@ChillwithAster]

Same, that's my only problem with how they did the story hook. BUT BUT BUT that's a problem that should only be for the beginning so I aint bothered by it

[@batatapalha1241]

If they do like Honkai, is going to be a always problem

[@lenoria]

happy to hear your thoughts are very reasonable and well thought out. star rail makes me a lot more hopeful that ZZZ will be a good game when it comes out, even though i'm not very interested in it right now i'm sure a lot of people will be. star rail is so relaxing to me i'm definitely playing it for the foreseeable future.

[@mikov6486]

I think the simpler, three-skill turn-based combat is actually a good thing. It fills, or maybe even creates, a new niche for casual turn-based players. Hoyoverse makes its games with mobile players in mind. If I'm gonna play a mobile game for like fifteen minutes at the cafe, I don't want to have to consider ten different options for four different team members. If I wanted a more complex, 5-head RPG experience, I'd sit down with my Switch at home and play Persona Royal for two hours, or sit down with my friends and play D&D for four hours. That's why I say that HSR is in a new niche; its simpler gameplay is adapted for its medium.

[@Roihclem871]

It’s real fun and story starts picking up 4 hours in or so

[@charliesheet6699]

i love it! i havent played turn based game in a while, last was ff vii back in ps 1 and this just made me happier than the ff iv remakes out there. yes, the gacha still stings a little since there are elements i need but still playable as an f2p. not fan of a honkai impact, but this and genshin both on top of my list on games to play on my free time. love the cinematics and music too, damn that fight vs the "ice queen" is superb.

[@melit.]

glad to hear your thoughts on the game. And they are pretty generous with the rewards early on but I’ve been playing for many upon many hours now, and I’m at trailblazer level 33. And I have like 14,000+ wishing currency. Saving for my boy Jing Yuan. I was able to catch some of your stream a few days ago, something funny I was actually debating naming him Aster cause if the connections to stars and space. I went with Arion instead though, combined the names of my favorite constellation Orion and the ‘A’ from Astraios. I was curious if you were gonna upload the full vod. But you do so much already I’m happy with anything you upload. Great video and hope things are going well.

[@greenisnotacreativecolour]

This does look good, but I think I'm going to wait until Zenless Zone Zero before starting a second miHoYo game. It has a bear.

[@Charlett]

Not gonna lie as Honkai Impact player U don't need to know Honkai Impact knowledge at all Characters only really share the name and apperance Performance wise it is the best Hoyo game, its incredibly smooth even in 2x speed Graphic wise it's pretty too! Though it may become cashgrab like Genshin and overall game looks vanilla in terms of story which kinda sucks. Oh and overall it's closer to Genshin than Honkai in many aspects

[@ChillwithAster]

As I was told; I had severe doubts when I heard that claim since I needed to know how it actually *feels* for a non-honkai player, so I waited it out for the release. Great to see it delivered well.

[@alvinvalentino5797]

​@@ChillwithAsterAll characters are different except Welt which is directly from Honkai Impact

[@Charlett]

@@alvinvalentino5797 U mean that his personality etc. is same as in Honkai or u say hes only from Honkai Impact?

[@BlueDaisy33]

@@Charlett he’s the same Welt from Honkai 3rd

[@turanksu4033]

​@@alvinvalentino5797theres also void archives from honkai 3rd who came with welt to the astral express and is mentioned indirectly but is yet to appear in the game

[@KogawaYuri-ENVtuber]

I’m with Aster on this one! I not really a sci-fi fan either; I love fantasy rpg games or chill cozy games! But there’s something about HSR that makes you want to play more! I also play Pokémon games so I’m familiar with turn based. Also, March has the cutest room! You’ll see when you get there! 😆💖

[@thebeast5215]

Im very happy with the witty commentary that the mc has when interacting with random things. I hope they keep that up

[@DanielSouthards]

For me the story didn’t stick AT ALL. I played for an hour the night it came out, and I have no idea who we are. Why were we woken up over others? What exactly are we doing? I hope the story improves because that’s what will keep me invested

[@pozzsicle]

The whole story is going on an adventure, saving worlds, and learning who you are, is it not? So if you see us being an amnesiac as a problem with the story, it *will* eventually get better on that front lol

[@IAmEvla]

I've been having a good time playing the game, I was originally hesitant to try it since I'm not really into Turn based Strategy games, but the game hooked me enough to keep playing for a bit longer. As for the actual combat idk how long it's gonna take before it gets tiring/boring to do since I'm kinda already feeling the effects of repetitiveness. I just run past a few enemies just to avoid being in combat which is definitely an issue for me, the game having the combat an important part in it and all that but i Guess we'll just have to see.

[@tsukinoaijin1]

It is weird, but i feel the amount of agency you have is good. Fights can feel quite challenging if you don't have the appropriate elements or bad team comp, I like that (if you don't kraken your problems away, that is)

[@marcodepril4888]

Im hoyo player And as of april 27 4.hi3th (honkai impact 3th) 2.genshin impact and (tot) tears of themis 1.hsr (honkai star rail)

[@maythias1]

I grew up with turn based RPGs, mainly pokemon and such, really like the style in general and my feeling of the combat was, as described to a friend of mine, "it flows real nice so it feels good, not as good as baton pass from persona 5 tho, but very good"

[@adamcobb7892]

I was able to get the char I wanted and I know he's not "meta" but Welt is an awesome support. Trying to grab seele but won't hold my breath lol. 😅 I really enjoy the game so far

[@metalunderground2020]

I'm an at launch Genshin Player and I am loving Honkai Star Rail. I have very fond memories playing old school Square Soft turn based jrpg games back in my teen years. This game is bringing me right back to those days in the best way possible. This is as polished if not more so than any of those classic titles i played years back. Even compared to newer games from this genre it excels. Yes it's a gatcha game but they were very generous for this launch and even if you stay ftp and play your currency right you will get the characters you want over time. I for one have no issues putting money down on these games. I always purchase the daily currency pass sometimes the battle pass and a one time top up for the max currency to get my warps under way. I really wanted Seele since i'm also a Honkay Impact 3rd player and Seele has always been a favourite of mine. I highly recommend this game to anyone looking for a fun game with incredible production value. Turn based combat can be very enjoyable when you approach it from a strategic standpoint.

[@gktte2574]

i love Genshin's battle system so I was also hesistant, like Aster, to play Star Rails. I did actually tried it and it rekindle my love for turn-base game. I was fan of flagship pokemon games and its rom hacks (Especially Radical Red hardcore *chef's kiss). I still think im in honeymoon phase with this game tho because it's not an open-world where I get to waste my time in exploring (something that Pokemon have)

[@_Bleh_83]

I actually love the turn base combat system and this is my first time time playing a turn base game

[@Lampent12]

I might try it out on PS5 when it drops for that, but I've invested so much to Genshin that I really don't have the time to fit in another free to play with my obsessive character collecting, especially with Xenoblade DLC and TotK to contend with 😅

[@North_wood]

The humour in this game is on another level like the hotel closet shenanigans and the whole trash can obsession thing 😂 The MC appeared cool and clam at first look but she's more like a gremlin that shit post and do some trolling every chance she get.

[@late_prince8945]

Writing in it is so fun, And over all better for me than genshin's. Also, for the lore people, the archives are so well organized!

[@captaindanger13]

i also didn't think i would be playing the game mainly because i'm not a fan of turn-based combat, but the hype pulled me in on the day it released and the game is pretty fun and the combat is a lot simpler than most turn-based games i've seen (which is not that many tbh but still).

[@1Henrink]

The low amount of action options makes me understand that the biggest strategy is gonna be in the in the team making. And since you need to Gatcha to have more options, I'm sitting this one out.

[@Mikairium]

thankfully enough its impressively f2p. all of the starter character are usable, some even actually good. so if you ever decided to try it out, the gacha isnt absolutely necessary. the gacha is extremely optional.

[@1Henrink]

@@Mikairium The only fear is the usual : "For now". We can really be sure for the future, and with what I said it seems it can (in an easier way) develop the need for more characters, something that entails having to Gatcha

[@hi.8038]

@@1Henrink the power creep for support characters tend to be slower, and they give you a shielder and a healer in the beginning, and a attack speed buffer(but shes not very f2p). And the mc is decent too, you can also get a standard five star from the banner and 3 of them are support characters and a subdps with debuffing abilities. So you’ll have 2 characters that will be relevant for a long time and maybe a good 5 star support. Mihoyo has also gained experience from genshin so they should be able to handle powercreep better

[@Classica_1750]

and that's okay, it does get used to in doing this game, no rush, hope you enjoy HSR too!

[@fogease]

I'm happy with the system right now, but I can see targeting, burst order, and picking between the two abilities (restrained by skill points) as not enough mid-battle choices later in the game for even people who like turn-based like me. Being able to carry an item with an active ability on each character as another option for their turn would be nice and they could be targeted too. Of course that means another thing to balance and either gachafy or grind for, but I'm sure that will cover the costs of implementing some more fun for hyv

[@suechan4040]

i played this after playing genshin yesterday. i like star rail because it is a turn based game. but i got used by the graphics of genshin that i got a hard time adjusting my eyes especially star rail has this dark color palette (i'm not good in english so i'm sorry if i can't explain it well). i had hard time looking for treasures huhu but overall, i still like it.

[@feathercat9118]

i kinda like this game more than genshin, i do love the genre of hack and slash but artifact grid aint for me. its tedious and leveling characters is a chore. this might end up bieng more of the same, but it seems far easyier to manage.

[@xzaxar4856]

you do realise this game has the exact same artifact grind as genshin right ?

[@bobbybobster7932]

Im not normally a lore player. Like i enjoy lore in genshin a lot, but even i skip the dialogue. But in star rail, im really invested in the story and I probably will be playing this seriously i guess? Its just really cool (im trying not to spoil)

[@cyb3r_81]

Im playing this when it comes on playstation for sure

[@missing_names8001]

In all honesty, I really like Star Rail. It's really interesting so far, and though it did catch me off guard, I like the combat. I like the more open combat that's in Genshin, but I also like that I don't have to worry about collecting another enemy mid battle. All together, it's a fun game. Also, I just really love the fact that we can rummage through garbage bins.

[@Haizou]

I had low expectations for this game but it’s actually really fun! But when zenless zone zero comes out I might drop this game since it’ll be too much gaming in a single day and as a mobile player,it will lessen my storage drastically.

[@el_palito45]

i wanted welt since the first time i saw him then got clara with 15 pity and died inside, BUT i ended up putting her on my team and despite being a tanker/counter character, completely different from welt and something i usually dont like, i actually ended up really liking her gameplay not disappointed at all

[@TheHemingWay]

I enjoy it because it is slower. I can just play it passively while I work on other things. When I have more time I’m all into Genshin. When I don’t I slowly play this.

[@witchcandy3671]

Just started star rail, a few thoughts. Honestly it's a lot more fun then I expected. There's a lot of familiar faces from Honkai Impact 3rd. That said (spoiler) there are interesting Easter eggs, like the wind glider you can find early in the game. As far as turn based and the gacha system, if your a fan of Octopath Traveler then your probably going to really enjoy Honkai Star Rail. Also the beginning phase is pretty generous and there are a lot of similar functions to both Hoyoverse's previous games so if your familiar its pretty easy to pick up. Voicelines are pretty cheeky and helps make the game more enjoyable, plus I gotta say the music goes from catchy to soothing imo. Rather enjoyable. There's also 4 Star Characters you can unlock through normal(?) playthrough. Honestly it might be too early to call it normal but I'm pretty sure main progression counts. Fast tip: I'm pretty sure your stuck playing naked minus the holocones until Belobog so I recommend sticking with the main team and shielding pro- actively before going too wild. Last thing, I'm a miser about investing resources until 4 Star or blues and I still scrubbed my way past a lot early on until I got some, not sure if that helps any but it's doable. Oh and FINIALLY, an MC that actually doesn't feel like a welfare check. Batters up!

[@criccode2993]

I am also concerned about the lack of options on turn based combat. After playing persona, the one system I miss the most is All out attack. In early game a lot of time I feel like, there is not much incentive of breaking their shields since they only result in 10% damage loss. That means focusing on a single target all the time instead of getting everyone in a downed state. I dont have enough dps to focus down a enemy's hp in a single round so it feels unnecessary. Maybe this would improve in midgame endgame

[@chosoistryinghisbest]

i was a little worried about how much i would like hsr but then again i've played pokemon my entire life, so turn based wasn't something that's new to me. i think just the graphics of the game make me mentally think this is a open world game since i'm so used to genshin, like i catch myself trying to jump lmao so far i like the game. the starters trailblazer, dan heng, & march 7th are pretty solid. the combat reminds me of pokemon battles when you fight 2 on 2. the animation is really good and i like the character designs. i was initially going to stay for like the first week and drop it, but i'm actually pretty into the story so far

[@Olicia88]

I never played turn based combat game before and I never played Honkai. I just play genshin, so the turn based system is something I need to get used to. But I think that if I ever get bored of that, I'll still play HSR just fore the story and the lore.

[@ThefOf1000Faces]

You can find travlers glider in F1 lamo

[@pipedream2556]

Ive been playing both since Star Rail came out and its interesting how some of the differences from Genshin have turned out to be even better than expected while others have transformed into flaws. For example, i know that Honkai Impact has very few characters who have different suits that do different things in the gameplay, so the story focused on those characters and the suits were solely about investment in the battle style and maybe the story got you invested in a particularly significant change of suit that came with character development or something. Genshin, of course, has one character per unit that they can try to sell us so they put some work in and then pretty much abandon them to try and get us to pay attention to new characters. Star Rail? It does BOTH. The crew of the titular Express promises to be with us to the very end of the story and we already have one of them going through a character development costume change and power up that is itself a separate unit to pull for, who knows how many times that will have happened by the end! Plus, we are going to be moving on to new worlds and meeting new characters but so far we're also going back to the first ones a LOT instead of moving straight on to the next location long promised. Maybe itll be like Genshin and once we have more places to go we'll see less and less of these characters and locations but theres hope that that wont be the case seeing as going back to the first planet we landed on to help with a situation related to them being reintroduced to the wider galaxy after being isolated for a long time let us meet a character whos clearly got ties to many future story arcs given the organisation she works for spans the galaxy ans is constantly mentioned and even has relevance to the next location were going to...but she now ALSO has ties to THIS place. Theres set up for us to continue coming back to Belobog and helping them develop just as theres reason to believe the Loufu will never stop being relevant given we're clearly on a path to visit and help every one of the Xianxou ships its a part of the fleet of. If they can pull that off properly, a balance between progress and not making new stuff and the relevant characters entirely redundant right after, i wont lose interest in the story even if the gameplay isnt capturing me. Which, yeah, its gotten boring fast for exactly the reasons you brought up. There is an equivalent to the artifact system but it doesnt change up anything, just makes bigger numbers happen if you manage to get and build good ones. Its just...yeah, thank god for autoplay i think id have dropped this almost instantly if i had to actually play through the same battle 6 times to get through a quarter of my equivalent of daily resin, let alone the equivalent of bosses that are already at the point of having 3 phases and a truckload of health just to slow you down. So...yeah if youre in it for turn based gameplay i dont think this is for you. The story though? The characters? The themes of trailblazing and discovery? It might be a lot of fun.

[@scrappy_horns8139]

Its still on its honeymoon phase but HSR earnings in May broke its highest ever Hoyo’s sales records…even overtook Genshin’s highest figures since launch… HSR story telling is much more matured compared to Genshin which i really appreciate and like more… As a longtime Final Fantasy, breath of fire and many other various turn based RPG player eversince the Famicom and SNES console era I actually love HSR turn-based combat…cause im old…hahaha

[@Truck-kun11]

Luckily this game takes the best parts of Honkai Impact and Genshin and learns from their mistakes.

[@ChillwithAster]

Guaranteed Selection at 300 is pog

[@hermdude]

Most mistakes... while having some steps back when the system from the other game is better than the other. Case in point - why can't I see the history of my interactions while the story is going along like in Honkai? They chose to follow Genshin for the storyline instead. By the time you go into the Data Bank to look for the history, you'd already lost interest.

[@Quanetria]

1:25 Same, as someone who HATES modern things and technology and is instied obsessed with fantasy worlds with magic, dragons, witches, elves etc. Genshin is so much better for me I still think Honkai is good game but its just not for fantasy lovers like me

[@thanonsss]

Love your old sprite❤❤

[@distritochristianangeloa.157]

I think Turn based combat is unappreciated since many game titles like Pokemon, Final Fantasy and SMT/MegaTen(Persona is a spin off) so it is always gonna have mixed reaction if a game is one. As for HSR, I think it is a decent game design and with some easter eggs hidden in the game. I really enjoy playing it

[@graver8476]

I usually don't like turn based combat games, but I really loved Honkai Star Rail.

[@itsmeskyler3706]

As a Genshin Player, I’m very surprised that I liked this game. Been playing since opening day.

[@PerceptualAbyss8777]

I know random question, but who would win in fight to the death Traveler VS Trailblazer

[@Razorrrrrrrrrrrr]

Arlen my beloved

[@_Bleh_83]

Dan heng best boy and lots of lore inside

[@ozzyomega8674]

I too went in knowing nothing but I'm really enjoying the game so far, my only complain about the battle system is that we cannot defend and have to rely too much on shields. Also, I'm still mad at March 7th for stopping Dan Heng from kissing us.

[@2265Hello]

Personally I doubt they will do more than the three skill thing anytime soon. But the combat for long term longevity could use an extra mechanic to spice it up/give it a bit more depth. So not everything is team building/gacha character based.

[@Lolahelm]

Just wait till you’re done with belebog, you will totally get a more fantastical interpretation of high- scifi

[@AnArtistInAVoid]

Just gonna answer the question for why the combat has an auto-battle mode. It’s because the game has grinding in it, and Hoyo learned from Genshin that only a rare sort of people like grinding. And now my opinion of star rail. In my opinion, the fun of Honkai Star Rail is building a functional team that clears content well, rather than having a massive variety of choices for skills. If I remember correctly, other rpg games have a massive skill list, but they also have one strongest skill for each type of skill, usually. In that way, some rpg games end up having a similarly limited set of skills. From my perspective, Star Rail simply streamlined the “using the strongest skill that a character has” process to simply giving characters three things, the basic attack, the skill, and the ultimate. Additionally the whole being able to trigger ult whenever you want thing is pretty cool and another layer to strategy in the combat of star rail.

[@dallNoki]

I think non Honkai veterans will never be able to appreciate this like we do, I’ve it since the year of release. Hearing Himeko, Welt, Bronya and especially Seele speaking English is so strange. You guys are about to jump deep into this crazy 4 years in the making lore.

[@lonelywolf777]

I've made the same mistake as you in the beginner banner lol

[@demonking-zm3rs]

I do wonder what's preferable for players some people dislike Paimon's exposition but some people don't like terms being inferred(though if you go and ask the characters they do give a good synopsis of what the terms mean) Persona seems to be everyone's go to but I often see SMT fans basically call it babies first RPG (which despite the praise it is really easy to exploit the mechanics) Genshin it's mostly you and Paimon in Honkai your jumping perspectives all the time and with HSR you have your base characters and the characters on other worlds I kind of like how there games approach and adapt the narrative and feels like they take different lesson from each game cool thing about a live service game They have the funding to make the game run for however long(people tend to forget Tear of Themis and GG exist and there going strong) and despite the whole "Mihoyo Greed" narrative They design the games how they want and stay true to their vision you can feel the passion in all there games and when you look at all of them they do add and change things Also love how the concepts always translate well Forbidden Knowledge Honkai Sterllaron feeling like the same thing just different adaptations

[@bluwu3698]

gotta say, even though it's early days, as someone who enjoys turn-based rpgs, I'm already seeing how the simplicity can get boring fast (although it is still really fun for now), and unfortunately, I feel like that's by design to encourage players to pull for new characters so that the gameplay doesn't get stale. Or maybe it's just to encourage people new to the genre to play, and I'm being unnecessarily pessimistic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@Jack_Ss]

Here's the thing about only having 3 attacks. This isn't a game like Persona with a limited number of characters. It's a game that will have dozens to get. If each character had 10+ moves then Hoyo would never be able to sell new characters. The strategy in this game will be switching out characters to suit different situations and battles. As for the combat. I actually had far more thrilling encounters in Star Rail so far then I've really had in Genshin. Due to the limited nature of healing abilities and attacks compared to Genshin I was actually in serious danger and couldn't just scarf down a dozen Sweet Madames. As for the auto battle, I definitely love it. Because it makes it so much easier to grind when you don't feel like playing. I'd love for a similar system in Genshin. Playing the same Domains gets so boring

[@serenediipity]

as someone who also hasn't played yet, i'm loving the characters but yeah, only having 2(?) combat abilities paired with it being turn-based is something i'm not as much a fan of personally

[@keetongu9511]

The main thing that makes me hesitant about playing it is that the enemies are huge bullet spunges and the animations are looooong. I feel like every fight will take way longer than it needs to and the animations will get boring. Imo turn based combat becomes less fun the longer the battle goes on since it'll end up repeating itself. I'd prefer something to Xcom or Othercide where you can instantly lose a unit when you make a stupid move which keeps you on your toes. At the same time you're a powerhouse in those games and you can punish the enemy just as much.

[@domb.1522]

There’s a fast forward system to increase the animations. The main thing I don’t like about the combat is that there is auto-play.

[@mattavarius5119]

My biggest issue is that I don't feel any connection to each characters' gameplay. I really like some of the characters' personalities so far, but actually playing each character feels the exact same. In Genshin it feels very different to play Xiao then it is to play Ayaka, but in HSR I don't feel any different between someone like Seele and someone like Welt. I can see the difference in the characters, but I can't feel the difference

[@randomguyblank1616]

Yeah Aster just a heads up you're a bit too early in the game to see the item system, the proper nuances of combat, the 2x speed mode, and why people praise auto battle. Auto battle is for farming, you know how in Genshin you have to manually farm domains and after a while it kinda gets boring since you're doing the same thing? Yeah auto battle nullifies that drawback, like imagine in Genshin you could just click a button and spend a set amount of Resin then a few minutes later you get a bunch of mats or artifacts. Overall as both a Honkai and Genshin player I feel like HSR is a good mix and sometimes outright improvement over the two other games. I also like the more dungeion crawler design over the open world design of Genshin because it means we get more tightly designed areas which is what I see as a big weakness for open worlds and what seperates decent open worlds to amazing ones.

[@Generallygeneral]

Star rails turn based combat depths is too shallow imo, combine that with auto battle and grindy progression just doesn’t feel interesting. Even Pokémon’s combat has more depths and strategy

[@pixelgriefer1880]

I even think that the auto battle can be really nice, in Genshin the farming of Artefacts is really annoying because of the repeating monsters in one domain over and over again, it can be more annoying when the enemys have specific mechanics, so I think it can be a huge load of our shoulders when it comes to farming relics in Honkai. But! The auto battle is sadly not far advanced enough to survive many times, it doesnt attack weaknesses and only focuses on the enemys left to right most of the time which makes the bot play like someone that doesn't understand the game mechanics at all

[@reiwa7702]

Seriously it hit me when I see Himeko 😢

[@witchy90210]

I got two 5 stars on my 20 pulls for the beginners banner. Then a third on like the last 50. It confused me.

[@Vaskalen]

I got two in my very first 10 pull. I was surprised, to say the least. Though, knowing my luck, they'll be my only 5 stars. But, considering my Genshin luck, I'll take it. xD

[@hollowficate]

3:31 FGO: *shit eating grin*

[@griponreality254]

The things the characters say are insufferably repetitive and weird. “Ever see a diamond this big, you can have it.” I already never want to hear “rules were meant to be broken” again and I haven’t even unlocked ways to use resin.

[@highwaytoheaven99]

I'm a huge fan of turn based games, in games like Shadowrun Returns, Divinity Original Sin and XCOM. But the difference is that in those games there is MOVEMENT, your characters can move in a 2D environment, turning the game into a chess-like strategy battle. I was never a big fan of JRPG-style turn-based combat, because without movement, positioning, range or hit chances the game becomes just "who can make the biggest numbers", and there is not much strategy in that... Also in those games each character can have dozens of moves, skills and attacks, and like you said in Star Rail you have... 4 moves? Yeah its not looking good for me...

[@bhavya5692]

Well i got welt and himeko in the same pull , and I've never won a 50/50 in genshin, I'm mad

[@rushalias8511]

As a genshin player my first thoughts were....goddam it I can't jump, climb, swim or glide anymore. Other than that its fun all things consider.

[@gxstyyyy]

in my opinion the combat itself isn’t what makes it slow, it’s the transition from open world to the combat stage. the turnbased system seems overkill to defeat a random open world mob

[@anyaaa2801]

Looks fun but I'm not into slow games sorry 😅