The backing track thing is so real. It's like the idol is supporting the backtrack at this point instead of the other way around.
@chickenwings22484 сағат бұрын
Thats actually an amazing way to put it
@springss186120 күн бұрын
I’ve heard from people that go to live events that idols/groups would sing live, but when it gets uploaded to KZbin, all the vocals have been edited
@Kookliet_and_jimeo20 күн бұрын
i agree , fancams are the best
@fathemamerdha491020 күн бұрын
I agree, I mean just by watching fancams they are 100x better
@skyofbob20 күн бұрын
yeah I went to lollapolooza and ive was mostly live with a small backtrack, but on the online livestream, the track was boosted completely
@Kookliet_and_jimeo20 күн бұрын
@@skyofbob koreas obsesstion with perfection , its a part of their culture
@user-je6io6cv5d20 күн бұрын
Yeah you can see the difference in the fancams
@paumaster20 күн бұрын
You're absolutely right about (G)I-dle, them singing live and raw makes the music sound so much more enjoyable.
@vixxexo685520 күн бұрын
(G)i-dle always try to sing live especially Soyeon. I can always tell Soyeon’s mic is on.
@thundercloudss20 күн бұрын
Whenever they perform, you feel that you're watching an artist executing their art. So charismatic. Theyre on another level
@amadadam662020 күн бұрын
but thier voices just ears bleed😵
@sso.oi_pao20 күн бұрын
@@amadadam6620 lol still better than your bias live vocals
@cookiemonster818419 күн бұрын
@@sso.oi_paoand if their bias is exo? 😂😂 y’all just be saying stuff
@chanelasthepoki20 күн бұрын
I absolutely agree on belle, I started noticing the ariana grande technique heavily during k-star (when they sang touch my body) she was super thin and tense. I even had a conversation with other fans online that had the same thought about her kind of using ariana grande old unhealthy singing habits/technique or style . She's my absolute bias in the entire kpop industry right now together with haewon. I hope she stops overusing it and finally just be Belle instead of being the"Ariana grande" of kpop It's a great title but she's also just great and amazing herself and she already have that title anyway she doesn't need to push her voice to sound more like her.
@vixxexo685520 күн бұрын
Well Ariana Grande is still technically a better vocalist then any kpop idol so it makes sense to have Ariana Grande as a role model.
@artistman553320 күн бұрын
Trying to imitate, but not learning to arangement, including weak fundamentals. It's different, so it always yields different results. Simply put, there's no intelligence.
@BernardoFerreira1520 күн бұрын
@@vixxexo6855no she’s not??
@jadebayoba707320 күн бұрын
She has already stated that while she DOES use her very own technique, she also said her company forces her to use another technique to make herself look "prettier", she has also stated she can go way higher with HER technique, but since the company forces her to use another technique, she cannot fully show what she can truly do
@jadebayoba707320 күн бұрын
@@vixxexo6855not really, there's plenty idols that have better vocals and overall better singing than Ariana Grande, asian singers are better than Ariana by mamy factors
@halane479020 күн бұрын
Idle are the queens. They are not the best vocalists, but they perform their own songs incredibly well.
@nightingale478620 күн бұрын
tbh, not just their own songs, but i don't think i can ever think of a cover they did that didn't sound great as well. soyeon really understanding each member's voices and being able to use their tone/range the best definitely helps as well!
@halane479020 күн бұрын
@nightingale4786 yup. Also they have gotten so much better that sure, they are not the best, but atp I think they are fairly solid.
@vixxexo685520 күн бұрын
Miyeon, Minnie and Yuqi are good vocalists. Especially Miyeon is, she always deliveres live. Let is not forget Soyeon always doing her rap parts live and even her vocal intro for Super Lady, Soyeon do well live. Shuhua is the only dozen in idle.
@sso.oi_pao20 күн бұрын
@@vixxexo6855stop hating one member
@raph-san369920 күн бұрын
@@sso.oi_pao They are not hating on anyone though. Shuhua doesn't have good vocals, and is by far the worst vocalist of (G)-Idle. Try to listen to Klaxon stages. During her pre-chorus, she's always off-pitch and off-timing. Girlie has some skills, but her vocals aren't one of them. And again this is not hating but stating facts
@that_ace_simp20 күн бұрын
2:34 lmao seventeen were fighting the backtrack SO hard that performance- it sucks because they're all such good live performers, i don't know why the backtrack was made that loud
@you_dropped_your_crown20 күн бұрын
As for Belle, I remember her saying that she likes to experiment with her voice. Ariana has become her role model, but she doesn't always use such vocals (we can hear it in lee mujin service, and in their own tracks). Belle uses the vocal style and technique that she likes at the moment, as she is a producer and experimenter herself. I love her sm!
@g_i_n_d20 күн бұрын
I love her in Lee Mujin service 😭😭😭 the cover she made of "Ringtone" makes me so emotional
@jadebayoba707320 күн бұрын
Real, this guy and the comments saying "oh she's using Ariana's old technique its so bad" its really incorrect and truly just hateful excuses, do these people actually think?
@tuan448220 күн бұрын
@@jadebayoba7073why cant fans accept that their favs have flaws... how is it hateful if it's discussed politely and in a constructive manner? Ariana's old singing style is INDEED bad for the voice, that was said by Ariana herself, and sometimes even sonically bad.
@chanelasthepoki20 күн бұрын
@@tuan4482Thank you for explaining, I wasn't really hating too, my ult bias is belle I was fumbled that they labeled me as hateful T^T
@troua200119 күн бұрын
@@tuan4482 fax "its really incorrect and truly just hateful excuses, do these people actually think?" refutes the statement by providing zero reasons for it being incorrect and has the audacity to insult others
@nightingale478620 күн бұрын
as idle themselves say, 'we may not always be in sync but we always sing live (except for our debut showcase)'. they all said they were having major in-ear issues for their MAMA performance but still performed live despite not being able to hear themselves well. the fact that they still sounded great shows that their live singing practice paid off. and i agree! i hate when you can tell that the idol is singing live but the backing track is so loud, the members basically have to scream to be heard or their voices get edited to hell and back.
@moriko-chan105920 күн бұрын
Belle is still in her rookie group years...she can improve this but still one of the best.
@g_i_n_d20 күн бұрын
And only that, she sounds more like herself in her recent songs. She sounds more like "Belle from KIOF" and not "Koreana Grande" and I love it. She's finding her true voice
@Jeezthatbitchsexy20 күн бұрын
She sound good both as belle and koreana grande @@g_i_n_d
@II_II55519 күн бұрын
@@g_i_n_d Koreana grande😭😭😭
@maddiejung97420 күн бұрын
Killing voice is the worst culprit when it comes to editing vocals.
@user-je6io6cv5d20 күн бұрын
Nah it’s live is worse
@OleDirtyBastard6820 күн бұрын
@@user-je6io6cv5d Call it by it's real name: "It's Nowhere Near Live".
@Samuel-hu8uk20 күн бұрын
@@user-je6io6cv5d I agree, the amount of editing on red velvet cosmic is crazy especially Wendy’s high note 😭😭 Korea’s culture on perfectionism is insane
@loopy-q1h19 күн бұрын
no because i asked to hear LIVE. if i wanted to hear highly edited vocals, i would listen to ai covers and tiktok singers. tiny desk korea is the only place where i can trust that they didn't heavily edit the vocals. it's kinda sad that i can't hear the og version tho. i can only hear it jazz (which i still like, but not all songs on tiny desk korea fit that vibe)
@jeo519819 күн бұрын
@@Samuel-hu8ukthey made the high note sound robotic, it's insaaannnee and such a disservice of her instrument
@luisamaria298320 күн бұрын
So real about backing tracks, It's a support, not the main voice, nobody gets angry because they use it, but they use it as it is supposed to be, a support. 😢
@slay-day20 күн бұрын
Aww 😢
@g_i_n_d20 күн бұрын
As a KIOF fan, thank you. I think Belle has improved since her debut and sounds more like herself and not "Koreana Grande" sometimes. She's still doing too much sometimes but she has improved imo. KIOF recent album has songs which are not pushing unnecessary high notes and I love it so much because Belle medium and lower register are way better. I'm obsessed with the cover of "rigntone" she sang in Lee Mujin service
@Hellokitty_39120 күн бұрын
Never understand why they used backtrack for svt like.... they for sure CAN sing lmao 😭 svt did NOT need that shi
@Hellokitty_39120 күн бұрын
@manuelrengeldiaz kinda makes sense
@JudezaJairaIbarra20 күн бұрын
Most of the times idols used backtrack but sometimes the company make it louder that their voice
@4niasomnia57320 күн бұрын
If Jihyo can slay Moonlight Sunrise at Billboard with an essentially nonexistent in-ear monitor and only show the slightest sign of being pissed off about it, it shouldn’t be an excuse for bad singing.
@depressed_firefly20 күн бұрын
Taemin threw out his in-ear during SuperM performance and kept dancing without missing out a beat during the song. They were lip syncing so there was no issue with singing at least, but dancing on the stage without in-ear (I believe it was some sort of debut stage with bigger crowd capacity? don't remember for sure but doubtfully just a handful hundred of people) so hearing the music for dancing was still essential so yeah, not having a working in-ear shouldn't be a big excuse, unless your in-ear makes it look like it works but in fact sounds wrong in your ears (and you don't realize it)
@4niasomnia57320 күн бұрын
@ when Jihyo does the “Cards out on the table, what you say” part of the Billboard performance, her in-ear is clearly hanging down and she was fiddling with it earlier in the performance, hinting that it was working either inconsistently or not at all. And she still sounded good and kept dancing with the rest of Twice. The only hint of (understandable since it was a major international stage) irritation that you see from her is when she briefly adjusts her top.
@hyunjinsanity20 күн бұрын
@4niasomnia573 and her mic was so quiet aswell 😭😭
@Soufriere8420 күн бұрын
I watched that performance. It wasn't just Jihyo's IEM, her mic was also busted. So, in typical Jihyo fashion, she just sang louder. Also she looked more than just "slightly" pissed off. I'm a dumbass and I could tell she was FURIOUS about the whole thing and trying to hide it. At least no one could accuse her of lip-syncing.
@omgwhtvr12319 күн бұрын
expecting someone to sing well when they cant even hear themselves is so inconsiderate and shows your lack of knowledge. jihyo being able to sing well despite issues is fantastic but its essential to be able to hear yourself to give a good vocal performance
@kuaufaulya791820 күн бұрын
gidle been killing it everytime
@michinaaa20 күн бұрын
The point of the super loud backtracks is probably so that people can't criticise them for not singing live, because they TECHNICALLY were. But what's the point of singing live if all I'm hearing is the pre-recording anyway?
@MISOOLUCKIEEE20 күн бұрын
I feel like (G)-idle, IVE, NMIXX, and Rosé are really showing as of late live vocals, especially cams at the events and i really hope new groups use them as inspo so more groups are live
@nadamusta86617 күн бұрын
Ive just had two members who sing live
@currentjelly34620 күн бұрын
I saw I-dle at their Houston show and September and ur 100% correct their live vocals ate. Not to mention they all have great stage presence it was a great concert
@deepanwitasinharoy452420 күн бұрын
Idle are beasts. They only compete with themselves. No one can accuse them of not being able to sing their own songs. And that is what we need. You dont have to be better than everyone else to be good
@l0velyfl0wer20 күн бұрын
Calling them beasts is an overstatement imo, they are just doing what should be the standard
@deepanwitasinharoy452420 күн бұрын
@l0velyfl0wer I'm appreciating a group doing their best. Let's not be bitter shall we?
@l0velyfl0wer20 күн бұрын
@deepanwitasinharoy4524 it’s not being bitter it’s just being logical
@manogaming653420 күн бұрын
Idle are over hyped.... There live performances cause me ear pain... Especially their rapper... Ah God.. Ahyeon gets hate for “ screaming " But that girl doesn't.... The industry is a joke
@hellhound150520 күн бұрын
@@manogaming6534 then u don't know s**t cause Soyeon has literally gotten hate since even before her debut for her voice. The industry is a joke because of people like you who want others to also get hate because your favs get hate
@hypeboy0020 күн бұрын
I totally agree with you about Belle. She's an amazing vocalist and has so much more potential to become legendary, but I'm concerned with the overuse of her voice, she's pushing her voice a lot in the past couple of months. I hope she finds her vocal balance and use more techniques to keep her voice healthy, I mean WE LOVE the ariana grande's influence, I myself am a huge fan of hers, but it'll be nice to see her find her style, and of course she has plenty of time to do so. And regarding live vocals in kpop, it's been so frustrating to watch performances for a while, I can't stand the fakeness and lipsyncing anymore lol, especially with sm artists, the so-called vocal company that don't let their artists sing live ugh. However, the groups that do care and choose to sing live have my utter respect.
@allieannette371220 күн бұрын
I'd rather hear good vocalists with a quiet backtrack than amazing vocalists who are being drowned out. The mental gymnastics some kpop fans go through to justify their favs NEVER singing live is wild. "They are singing. There's just a backtrack too" If you can't hear their vocals, what's the point?
@graceababan20 күн бұрын
8:12 Chiming in on the inear monitors. I want to flex Wheein who had an in-ear monitor malfunction on Musicbank 231013 while performing IN THE MOOD (blue denim). She was slightly out of tempo (same w Jennie) in the first few seconds but was able to catch it immediately and removed her in-ear before the chorus came on. People commended her for her professionalism and even said "NOW THATS LIVE"
Thank you for mentioning that incident. Mamamoo's and Wheein's professionalism , vocals , performances are all worthy of praise. The in ear malfunction needs to go tbh.
@II_II55519 күн бұрын
Girl Jennie slayed that performance but some lipsync lovers critised her for off tune but singing LIVE. Gurl she joined the live last time but still have her best
@carly603720 күн бұрын
lots of times people praise idols vocals on lee mujin service when it's the show where they get edited the most! i don't doubt the idols' abilities to sing, but whenever i hear the obvious editing in the voices ugh...
@twice__drippin_stan467620 күн бұрын
Twice's Strategy fancams are amazing! You can hear them without backtrack and without post-production editing and it honestly sounds better that the broadcasted version
@luisamaria298320 күн бұрын
Kazuha has a beautiful voice, if she keeps training, she could be even better and maybe have more difficult lines.
@david338820 күн бұрын
I love Rose, but I have to disagree, her album doesn't push any boundaries. It's the most basic pop album, even tho it's good, we can't deny this. She's basically the Korean Taylor Swift. Not sure if it's a good or a bad thing, tho.
@mWkokono20 күн бұрын
The songs sound as if they were written when she was in her late teens or early twenties. They feel somewhat dated for her current age and the present day, but I guess the honesty is a positive aspect 😊
@shahdmohammed704420 күн бұрын
Females and makes got harassed when the news come out that some of them r dating, so for rosé saying it loudly that she is dating without being afraid is impressive and indeed push the boundaries in kpop
@nylehjohnson456020 күн бұрын
He says " Rosé pushed KPOP boundaries with that album because she showed an honest and vulnerable side of her and it's true. Les idoles doivent souvent montrer une façade et ne peuvent pas parler avec honnêteté sur beaucoup de choses surtout concernant les relations amoureuses.
@david338820 күн бұрын
@@nylehjohnson4560 + @shahdmohammed7044 No offense but I can mention 100 other Idols who did the same thing or even more. Just listen to a couple of Mamamoo songs, for example. They literally wrote songs about gay sex, and diss tracks about the whole industry and haters. That's what we call pushing the boundaries, not writing love songs. Literally, 80% of Pop music is about that.
@alvi_omi20 күн бұрын
Album wasn’t bad as her first self-written album
@luisamaria298320 күн бұрын
1:47 I hate it too 😢 Yes, it's live, but it goes from the microphone to a processor, and that's what we hear, it sounds live, but not human or natural, they sound like AI even on stage. Not all groups do it, but if it's very common to see that practice lately.
@アウエン20 күн бұрын
Oh, I totally agree for (G)I-DLE ! I loved their performances lately ! It's true they aren't the best vocalists out there, but they do the work, their lives were fire, I got chills, it was soooo cool ! I wasn't fond of Super Lady as a song with just the studio version, but the live version ? So fun ! I'm also part of the people who were very happy to see improvement with Le Sserafim ! I truly wish them to continue to get better, I'm sure they will also be happier with themselves like that and will find out they have so much more fun with skills to back up their projects ! As a lover of Belle's lower register, I also wish we heard more of it... é.è In general, I hope 2025 will have many surprises for us when it comes to K-Pop vocals... Like I would love to hear improvments coming from many artists, to hear more live vocals (aespa please omg), and to discover new talents... I'm also personally excited about Ablume's debut (it is rumored to be this summer ?), since I'm really fond of Aran and Sio as singers (Aran has a very "jazzy" voice I find very interesting. Like I'm curious how it will be used in Ablume's songs in the future, and I do wish to follow this group's journey)
@nia728720 күн бұрын
The in ear monitor excuse always makes me roll my eyes
@clara-rq9my2 күн бұрын
i think belle is still developing her own style. she uses the ariana style a lot on covers but on kiss of life's music he's very much herself
@acewalker20 күн бұрын
I rather have my voice crack than lipsync 😂
@antaniabrewster857920 күн бұрын
You don’t have to be rude lip singing is not a bad thing it’s just about how much you do it
@zackzzz351320 күн бұрын
Knetz will drag you for boice cracks
@vanshika_720 күн бұрын
So true I like those Grps who always sing live even if they have voice Crack It's like they r brave they wanna give their fans the best
@kazura956120 күн бұрын
Because you're not an idol. It's not an idol's job to be a singer
@Raimu_u20 күн бұрын
@antaniabrewster8579 lmao. What do you mean Kpop tickets can cost thousands of dollars no one in their right mind would be happy going to a concert where the idols are not even singing. At this point it should just be called A Dance performance cuz sometimes they don't fully sing at all. It isnt even live and I wouldn't pay so much to see a "concert".
@Nameless_mixes20 күн бұрын
I think in conjunction to the in-ear argument, we need to look at consistency. Maybe it was the in-ears? Maybe the idol was just having a bad day (they were sick, their voice was fatigued, etc.). Try looking for more performances of the song and see how they sound. Are they doing much better? Are they staying on key? Or is this a habitual issue? If it keeps happening, I don’t think we’ll be able to fully blame the in-ears for the lacking vocals.
@BernardoFerreira1520 күн бұрын
Exactly… there is a lot to consider
@sketchyarts1020 күн бұрын
I love when idols (gidle basically) stop to take a breath and prove it's all live
@mylittlepeonies869319 күн бұрын
5:59 yeah but there is no way she can recreate that during a live performance especially if there is choreo. Singing while standing still in the studio is completely different and the very least we should expect for singers
@mayiluvu319 күн бұрын
There’s no choreo for crazier
@mangoqrwslk92vina20 күн бұрын
Dreamcatcher and NMIXX should've been mentioned with gidle!
@Soufriere8420 күн бұрын
ANOF has made several videos about NMIXX already so mentioning them yet again would be redundant, and I don't know enough about Dreamcatcher to have an opinion
@mangoqrwslk92vina20 күн бұрын
@Soufriere84 I see, thank you!
@사랑해요-v3o20 күн бұрын
Belle은 어렸을 때 Ariana Grande 노래를 듣고 감동을 받아서 따라불렀지만 그때는 가수를 할 생각이 없었습니다.그러나 데뷔하고 실제로 노래를 부르면서 스스로 많은 시도를 하고 있습니다.이번 서울 콘서트와 미주투어에서 보여준 라이브실력이 그것을 증명합니다.아직 나이도 어리고 실력도 있으니 누구의 아류가 아닌 진정한 자신만의 창법으로 새로운 길을 개척할 것입니다.
@nabibean20 күн бұрын
I agree. Belle has been exploring her unique vocal styles and you see that in KIOFs music and live performances. She always switches it up.
@사랑해요-v3o20 күн бұрын
@@nabibean맞습니다.😊
@frozenoat20 күн бұрын
Yu Huiyeol's Sketchbook, Yi Young Ji's program, and Lee Hyo Ri's show are all recorded in the same hall/studio and likely share the same audio production team. As a result, any live vocals in these programs are edited in a similar way. However, they still sound kind of natural, unlike other programs such as It's Live, Killing Voice, or Lee Mu Jin Service, where the vocals often sound overly robotic and heavily autotuned.
@imtherealone.6268Күн бұрын
There's a difference between Auto Tune and Pitch Correction. The reality is it's how you precieve how it sounds because another person might say the opposite.
@LuvKpopforlife20 күн бұрын
Backing track should only be used when the choreography is difficult to sing well live but not used to cover up someone actually singing or cover up someone who can't sing...
@ako835719 күн бұрын
I think the absence of in-ear monitors could be an issue for some groups, not bc of the technical aspect (venue size) but the unfamiliarity of it. Groups like Itzy and NMIXX famously sing during dance practice so they're used to singing with no backing track in an echo-y space _and_ to keeping the tempo in their head. A lot of in-ears for singers who dance have that metronome sound to count them in and keep them on beat. I think the more groups familiarize themselves with ALL of the conditions of an encore stage, the better they'll do.
@jasin156220 күн бұрын
I really hope Belle stays in her comfortable range, she has the most potential in 5th generation imo but if she keeps on using the technique she uses it's not end gonna end well
@xvimie421020 күн бұрын
Its crazy that people only shared the part where jennie messed up little bit which guess what? It was in the last of the performance 🤦🏻♀️ watch the whole thing and you will see how she sang live very well most the time.
@casuallydelulu13 күн бұрын
7:53 WHOA!! she needs to sing in this register more!!
@PyramidGame-dib20 күн бұрын
Jennie getting hate is something that happens on a daily basis so I wouldn't be surprised if she got hate for this.
@VideosForYou9020 күн бұрын
True, I don't even take that seriously anymore. Her and also other idols have been victims of clips getting cut out of context and evil edited to make them look worse than they actually are for years now. Especially Twitter loves to use 5 second long clips to bash idols they dislike and act like they're completely talentless because of that. I saw Jennie live with Blackpink x2 and also other kpop groups so I know what they all are capable of, don't trust the internet.
@xvimie421020 күн бұрын
If you watched full the performance she did very well the whole time until last part thats when she got problem with ear monitor so yeah people will only look at one bad part and ignore when she does well 💀
@Avan_1920 күн бұрын
Honest, harsh and unpopular opinion video: Me: singing party o’clock music in the background 😓
@br1ss20 күн бұрын
If I see you in the comment section, I just know it has something to do about NMIXX. NMIXX BEST GROUP🙏
@BernardoFerreira1520 күн бұрын
@@br1ssNMIXX GANG😂🎉
@br1ss19 күн бұрын
@BernardoFerreira15 YESS🙏🙏
@pipicute61520 күн бұрын
Most K-popers don't know about the backtrack & editing vocals, they really think idol sing live just because the title says "Live performance" 😂
@SávioNunes-n2x20 күн бұрын
Delete! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@kiriel0920 күн бұрын
I DIE inside when I see a super robotic pitch corrected "live" stage and there's 1.5k comments all talking about how "stable" they are. YOU ARE LISTENING TO A COMPUTER.
@KD-zl8nt20 күн бұрын
I love this honest review. No hate towards the idols. Just pure analysis on how they can improve
@michinaaa20 күн бұрын
gidle was my ult for a long time, and they're so genuine when it comes to their music and performances. they don't hide a single thing on that stage, and they give absolutely everything at every chance. super ladies since day one :>
@nabibean20 күн бұрын
as a someone who watches a ton of KIOF content, I’m gonna disagree. Belle doesn’t always sing in a "ariana voice" I’ve noticed she has a unique vocal and she changes her tone, style etc. depending on the genre, mood of the song etc. For example, shh vs nothing. I’d say shh is more ariana grande vibe where nothing isn’t. Belle is just belle when she sings to me
@jjuaassol20 күн бұрын
Your opinion is simply candid 😊 I all agree on your points.
@Rozzness15 күн бұрын
I througoutly enjoyed Gidles end of the year performances because I could actually HEAR them singing👏🏽 while most of the other performances had the backtrack on 100.😪 And congrats on Kazuha for improving but ngl that was still rough to hear with headphones on.😅
@antonellarosanova76320 күн бұрын
I-dle performances are always iconic and beautiful.It's so good to listen to their voice
@notyourdaddy214820 күн бұрын
rose’s album was so uninspired and lackluster
@SoleriQueen20 күн бұрын
If dreamcatcher can make a good encore stage while crying during their first win, in ear can be an excuse
@ChloeBx20 күн бұрын
Real
@sere714519 күн бұрын
Can you do a video analizing Onew's voice? And the live performances he is doing lately. Just to bring a different perspective to the discussion
@clara-rq9my2 күн бұрын
the back track struggle is REAL i remember that on stray kids' performance on one of the year-end shows they were almost screaming in order to be heard
@thundercloudss20 күн бұрын
I hate Its Live and Sketchbook because of the amount of pitch correction and editing. I applaud GIDLE for singing REAL live. Like you dont need an mr removed video just to hear their actual singing voice. The stage looks so full and powerful because of live singing
@rienet471515 күн бұрын
3:20 No, i would very much prefer backing track than no live vocals at all. You're a singer, your job is to sing. I would rather sacrifice some complex choreography moves if need be. I don't mind the vocals being a little unstable. I prefer a bad performance than a fake one
@iagreewithyou347820 күн бұрын
Bigbang is the best example of artists who use backing tracks as they should be used.
@BernardoFerreira1520 күн бұрын
iagreewithyou
@BernardoFerreira1520 күн бұрын
1:51 I actually think this is not the case. Red Velvet has been consistent for the past 4 years and no one seems to notice their effort. The K-Pop world is really starting to look like shit. We need to make K-Pop old school again. NMIXX GANG
@imtherealone.626820 күн бұрын
Not necessarily, in their Russian Roulette comeback, you can only hear Seulgi and Wendy, not really Joy or Irene or Yeri. And in the 2017 melon music awards, Joy definitely lip sang her part in Red Flavor. RV used a backtrack 100% on Russian Roulette because they had a stutter effect on Wendy's voice but she always sang over it. It's kinda obvious. Don't need MR software. Even so, in the early 90's people were still using auto-tune and backtracks. Nobody wants to mention this because it's less used in Rap but more so pop.
@nakyumleftnips863318 күн бұрын
Belle is one of the most interesting vocalists in kpop rn. God forbid if she wanna play around and try new sounds
@GorillickyShen19 күн бұрын
(G)I-dle really are amazing at performing live. Their live vocals make their performances more authentic and it makes people more interested in watching them, including me despite not staning them (yet). More groups should take notes to be honest.
@antonellarosanova76320 күн бұрын
Minnie's in ear wasn't working at Mama performance but she was really good
@lauren290620 күн бұрын
Completely agree with the backing track thing. I've been watching a lot of ILLIT stages lately and you can hear them fighting the backing track so much
@kunpunko19 күн бұрын
5:32 the bar is in hell…
@Adrex-ei7im17 күн бұрын
She sounds good shut up
@nvis787317 күн бұрын
Please don’t be fing dense. Kazuha isn’t a strong singer and yall know this,it isn’t her strong suit and that its dancing. She has shown she has somewhat control of her voice she doesn’t show and overall her voice sounds better here
@citrusfroot734112 күн бұрын
I’m pretty sure he’s an expert in vocals..
@jeffrianbanton51386 күн бұрын
Yawn y'all are annoying
@nvis78736 күн бұрын
@ your moms chest hair
@elina301613 күн бұрын
Every time someone mentions Idle's vocals, I'm reminded of the time they were doing a small fan meeting after (or before? idk) a music show and they just. started performing Nxde a cappella, using these crappy mics that were not made for singing and dancing, no fear or hesitation whatsoever. It's one thing to be able to sing and another to actually sing, and Idle just go for it every time! And they're very proud of it!
@Ace17nix20 күн бұрын
You need to check Belle duet with 10cm at Jonathan's show kStarNextDoor4 Summer Festival part 1 "When I Get Old", her tune is completly different.
@MattNavarro-ct5io20 күн бұрын
Hey, mmm, i just wanted to ask something that i discovered recently. Is your KZbin channel name inspired by Christina Aguileras "aint no other man"? Hahaha
@dailee12720 күн бұрын
yes
@dindapurki20 күн бұрын
Yes he used to make a lot of Christina Aguileras and other pop girls videos back then
@elina301613 күн бұрын
I've been enjoying what nugus have brought in terms of live vocals recently! Bewave has had some really nice stages if you know how to look for them, for example. We;Na has continually left me gagged, especially with their performance of Valhalla on 240628. The live track was so loud! Not really related to vocals but Wony (from we;na) would be such an it girl if people actually knew she exists....
@skyhideaway12 күн бұрын
i agree so much with what you said about belle! it seems like initially, her technique was vaguely inspired by ariana but she still had her own individual style. but these days, it really feels like she’s trying to copy ariana’s technique to a T, and it just feels off. it’s fine to be inspired by other artists but belle definitely needs to explore and find her own unique style instead of being the kpop version of a popular western artist.
@ghita286620 күн бұрын
Belle grande
@Aloozchipz14 күн бұрын
i dont know if you ever did a synopsis on dreamcatcher's vocalists but i really want to see one about them, especially siyeon. I feel like they are vocally quite great!
@alexandragabitto25736 күн бұрын
I have been binging fancams lately due to the fact that I have made the tough decision to no longer directly benefit the KPOP industry anymore until they change their abusive treatment of their idols. I was also pleasantly surprised by TWICE’s live performance! 😊
@linhtut141420 күн бұрын
I need a vocal analysis video on illit pleaseee.
@Rubeer-qe2me20 күн бұрын
the king is back?? hi Mr Doctor
@michinaaa20 күн бұрын
thanks for the outro that "byeyeyeyeyeyeyeyeeEeEeEe" was a great new year's gift
@ed324518 күн бұрын
The win encore stage 😭💝
@TheNazamChronicles20 күн бұрын
Belle’s low notes are so amazing
@xcosy_lemonx20 күн бұрын
5:47 I totally agree. I was wondering if that’s to do with why she doesn’t normally sing live. I don’t know what she thinks, but I feel as though she may think nobody would hear her
@Hellokitty_39120 күн бұрын
MY KING IS BACK I MISS SO MUCH
@Haifa38619 күн бұрын
the problem with isn't only with lack of vocal training but also they give their idols songs that are not made with their vocal in mind so with the songs having hard choreos and them being out of their range that can lead to more vocal strain and damage in the long term, it not as black and white as hybe artists can't sing but also hybe is think oh we are know for our groups dancing abilities and great stage presence so the choreo has to be as ellaborate as possible rather than how to emplement empresive choreo while also thinking about our idols vocals long term
@MélanieThomas-b6z20 күн бұрын
4:55 4th gen leader fr
@iagreewithyou347820 күн бұрын
Another topic you should talk about is groups using live prerecorded vocals as backtracks. They simulate the actual perf environment, record their singing while doing choreo, edit it, and use that as backtrack. You can hear the breathing, a bit of shakiness, mic sounds, similar to their raw live voice, but it's actually not. They're lipsyncing to their "live" vocals lol. I often see Illit and Le Serafim do this. Their fans say they improved, but... 😅.
@BernardoFerreira1520 күн бұрын
iagreewithyou
@ABIGAIListhis9519 күн бұрын
So true. They're just getting meticulous at not singing live yet getting praised for live vocals lol.
@kanelives60920 күн бұрын
Always loving your videos!
@2ndMostUnoriginalUsernameEver20 күн бұрын
A newer kpop group that uses backtracks appropriately are treasure, most of the time you can hear their vocals over the backtrack and only stop singing and letting the backtrack do its job at the very end of some songs during the dance break or a bit after. They still adlib though, which makes their performances better (jeongwoo serving vocals in bona bona outro, hyunsuk during dance break of mmm, and the list goes on). Its very frustrating to see your videos in which you keep on showing the problems of lip syncing in kpop, but video after video treasure is not talked about at all. They might not be as good as exo technically, but the performances are a great blend of live singing and stage presence. Please include them in future videos 🙏
@Butterflyemoji20 күн бұрын
Personally one of my favorite live moments is during Wheeins concerts. She has gotten so much more confident. Actually all Mamamoo members concert. Solar and blues OMWWW!!!!
@melonmw9 күн бұрын
Completely agree with the "live" performances. It's almost like their companies are just admitting the idols can't sing. Which we all know isn't (or shouldn't be) the case. Some might have better vocals than others but if given training and lines that suit them, even the worst vocalist in a group can be successful. If they can't, why did you debut them as a singer? Why make impossible choreo and songs that can't be sung outside a studio with tons of correction?
@yoursnatchedwig285620 күн бұрын
Viviz and gfriend did live without back tracks too they are just not famous enough unfortunately 😭
@xryvxctyrsyndry19 күн бұрын
THIS IS NOT ABOUT POPULARITY !!
@yoursnatchedwig285619 күн бұрын
@xryvxctyrsyndry yeah am saying they would have gone viral if they where famous
@xryvxctyrsyndry19 күн бұрын
@@yoursnatchedwig2856 nahh....viral ≠ famous.
@yoursnatchedwig285619 күн бұрын
@@xryvxctyrsyndry am sorry i don't know what that means
@SaminoSenpai19 күн бұрын
Can you do Stray Kids vocal analysis?
@necromancer19620 күн бұрын
Waiting on Lia's video😂😂😂😂
@user-je6io6cv5d20 күн бұрын
I would have better chance of winning a lottery than finding a performance where Aespa sings live and doesn’t lip sync lmao
@UrLocal_Toast2 күн бұрын
8:05 their b side igloo has this because there is no crazy vocals in her part
@jeongyeonyoo981119 күн бұрын
I love hearing people praise Jeongyeon.
@LuckyLurking19 күн бұрын
Inspired by live vocals, credit to live vocals
@T_Cup19 күн бұрын
Completely agree with all your points except maybe the Rosie album one. While I appreciate it from an artist's perspective and her wanting to be honest and raw, and I absolutely love APT, as a whole album, and especially a relationship-based/breakup album, it's very dated and kinda subpar compared to everything that came out in the same genre - like Olivia's album, Taylor's album, Sabrina's album, Chappell's, Billie's etc. It's not even close to being on the same level as any of these, so it doesn't make sense that her team thought it could compete with them. Also find it odd that she's the one member of BP that stayed at least adjacent to YG in terms of label and didn't release a single YG sounding song or Korean song, but that's small fish compared to the main issue, which is that it's not that fun to listen to
@hitmanbangsyellowcrocs421320 күн бұрын
That lil snippet of Katseye performing with LA Rams at Mama's sent me back to that awesome performance. What a show! My girls *ATE* !!😩🙌 I h^te loud backtracks. They made G-Dragon scream himself hoarse at the SBS Inkigayo 😭
@TereseAllam-ly4wd20 күн бұрын
can you make a video about TWS? a lot of their fans say they have been singing live with no backtrack but I have some doubts...
@suzyocean739220 күн бұрын
Please, that Belle tiktok snippet was just a silly cover of an Ariana Grande Christmas song, ofc she's going to mimic her vocal style
@사랑해요-v3o19 күн бұрын
맞습니다.😊그것을 심각하게 받아들이는 사람들이 문제입니다.이미 Belle은 다른 많은 시도를 하고있습니다.
@Ananastygirl19 күн бұрын
She's been singing like that for a while now... let's not lie
@사랑해요-v3o19 күн бұрын
@@Ananastygirl그럴 때도 있었지만 지금은 아닙니다. 많은 다른 시도를 하고 있습니다.그리고 정식적으로 데뷔를 한지 얼마 되지도 않은 사람입니다.😊
@lianacurry-desalas25657 күн бұрын
That song is by Mariah Carey, not Ariana.
@lisaelisa761820 күн бұрын
So satisfying when hearing/listening the real/raw vocal of a singer/idol kpop without music instrument that is a big/even huge evidence that they deserved to be calling/labeling as a Singer/Idol.
@foikiore130020 күн бұрын
Kazuha has always been solid with her voice! for the Unforgiven encore, the part was just too high for her so she cracked and was a bit offkey. other than that most of the time she sounded good and has always been good.
@nightingale478620 күн бұрын
true, you can even hear how her speaking voice is lower as well, but due to garam leaving, she became the de facto third vocalist after yunjin and chaewon.
@vixxexo685520 күн бұрын
Kazuha sounds better now atleast. Kazuha used to be a weaker vocalist then Sakura, but now she is better then Sakura.
@foikiore130020 күн бұрын
@@vixxexo6855 she has always been a better vocalist than Sakura. she used to be bad because she was a ballet dancer and had never really been around singing until she became a kpop trainee, she's only beginning but already catching up. Sakura on the other hand has been an idol for a very long time but she sounds bad and is afraid to improve. the hatetrain only made it worse and until she finds her confidence, there will be no further improvement. she doesnt deserve all this hate but here we are
@ThatGurl.008 күн бұрын
Edited live vocals is such a nonissue, so it funny u mention it, and how u described them sounding "nonhumam" despite the members of Twice always sounding like that, ig they're unpopular opinions because they're unheard of?