Honey Badger vs Rattler vs PDW

[@slavikarlov]

Rattler LT 300blk Complete upper is 1800. Compatible with M4 lowers and all the previous MCXs and spears.

[@mudgunner]

That’s cool, I didn’t realize they made the new ones compatible

[@slavikarlov]

@@mudgunner it's fairly new.

[@PP-yf4kl]

Still a thicc boi lol

[@kingofkutz214]

Just conpleted my first 300 build .. used the Faxon 6 inch barre 1/5 twist. l.. picked up a lahar30L.. planning to use it as my home defense weapon. Haven't shot it yet but im excited to go out to the range and hopefully i dont have any issues with it.

[@mudgunner]

Keep it cleaned, oiled and run subs suppressed. It should run great for you!

[@arnaldomata5742]

That sandman did the pdw no favor lol. I got that exact same setup. A nomad 30 would’ve been a comparable can to the other two

[@NeedMoreMags]

Currently have a sandman on wait, what causes you to make this comparison out of curiosity?

[@mudgunner]

The Sandman is probably Dead Air‘s most popular suppressor right now and honestly, it is a good suppressor for the set up. If I were to compare it to any other normal AR chambered in 300 blackout it would’ve done pretty well

[@Svnd_man]

I have the same exact setup just different light & optic , you think I should switch to the nomad?

[@16apec]

@@Svnd_man The nomad is quieter and lighter. The sandman is pretty durable but not the quietest can

[@16apec]

@@NeedMoreMags The nomad is quieter and lighter. The sandman is more durable though

[@deekay270]

Awesome vid! I have the HB and being bored I bought the KAK downward venting carrier and shaved the rear end down to match the HB carrier. It definitely made it even quieter to the shooters ear. Nothing crazy drastic, but definitely noticeable.

[@mudgunner]

Right on! Thanks for watching. I’m a big fan of the HB

[@GldenRetriever]

Not surprised the half Nelson was the quietest as it has the most volume. The HB is a smidge thinner and the sandman is really thin and short (without the keymo).

[@mudgunner]

Next 300 can on the to get list is the Q thunder chicken for my Noveske. I bet it could compete with these three.

[@GldenRetriever]

@@mudgunner I'd say it will beat it as it's longer than the half nelson. Should be on par with the nomad LT, which is extremely hard to beat for a lightweight subsonic 300blk can.

[@larkules]

When you referred to the bcg the D.D. seemed to sound a little more gritty like a standard AR. For some reason they all seem to sound like that, the others seem to run more smoothly.

[@mudgunner]

It does sound a little bit more gritty, but that may break in over time

[@r12clark]

I'm having a hard time deciding between the two. Nice shooting spot. Looks like the Roosevelt lake area.

[@-anASIANguy559]

OG Rattler ftw. Coincidence how we both run the half Nelson on our rattler. Originally I wanted the mcx tacops but specifically in 300BO so I went with the rattler and running the virtuous concepts XTN adapter to bridge the mcx 10" handguard to run mine suppressed under the handguard. For optics I'm running a sig romeo for now until I can save up for an aimpoint. But it's sitting on a hydra mount with the DBAL

[@mudgunner]

That’s a nice build! I’m very impressed with the half Nelson so far!

[@stephanarizona9094]

Both platforms are amazing! When I got into that platform I think the Rattler was just barely out, I wanted the Honey Bader but at that time they did not offer a brace so you had to get the Honey Badger SBR and I did not want to wait to potential NFA time, so I purchased a Q Sugar Weasel then did a Honey Badger conversion with Q Shorty Stock and Thunder Chicken, did a Form 1 SBR and its was approved in 30-days, was going to swap the trigger but the OEM Trigger is honestly as good as any high performance trigger, Q might be posh and snobby but holly cow do they make good products, topped it off with an EOTech EXPS3-0 and laser.

[@mudgunner]

That’s a sweet set up and I bet it’s super quiet with the thunder chicken!

[@briandaly6868]

Just did a eForm 1 to convert my Sig Rattler LT and it got approved in 46 hours

[@ThinkBIGBodybuilding]

great video. That Rattler looks and sounds wicked!

[@mudgunner]

Thank you! I’m super impressed with it

[@callofdutybeast8]

Just ordered my sig rattler lt this weekend going to start my paperwork for suppressor when it comes in might copy you!

[@mudgunner]

Sweet!! I looked up the LVAW on Clone Rifles to get inspiration for mine

[@selfrelience9384]

Which radian charging handle did you add? They say that the MCX charging handle isn’t set up for the Rattler.

[@mudgunner]

Mine is just the Radian MCX charging handle

[@milesrost6674]

The Daily Dose. Cheers Brother, Thanks!!! - Godspeed

[@mudgunner]

You bet!

[@JohnZ556]

Sandman for 300aac is totally a overkill for weight and durability. You can direct thread a Nomad L for the almost same weight and make it wicked quiet.

[@mudgunner]

There’s lots of options, but the Sandman is a very popular can right now for a variety of calibers

[@abdulalshemery8990]

I live in az and I’m struggling to find places like where you were shooting to shoot if you don’t mind can I ask where this is?

[@offroadkings379]

What part of AZ do you live? There's a lot of BLM land that's shooting friendly.

[@Starcraft98marine]

Would you be able to test your longest barreled .300blk in brush on a target against 5.56? I’d love to see deflection differences. Subs and supers in 110-125 range

[@slavikarlov]

With a discount code its $1,720 after tax and shipping.

[@mircnasty]

Bro you shoot in Buckeye?

[@mudgunner]

This was my first time

[@Phx_Cisco_Kid]

I believe that’s the same spot I go shooting. South of Riggs rd?

[@mudgunner]

I’m not sure, my buddy took me out this day

[@danquenell]

I assume the correct spring was in the Daniel Defense for shooting suppressed? DD over gasses their guns because they want them to run with any ammo and in any situation (push thru the carbon build up, dirt, mud, grit).

[@JimmyDickens1]

I run my Rattler LT with a Banish 30 can and sub ammo. Quiet as a church mouse!

[@mudgunner]

Sounds like a sweet setup!

[@JimmyDickens1]

@@mudgunner You have some sweet setups as well!

[@mudgunner]

Thank you!

[@dauntusgaming]

Is there a difference between the black rattler and the canebrake or is it just the color? I know you bought the handguard aftermarket, but I’m trying to decide if I just go with a canebrake or a black rattler that is more updated and get a canebrake handguard

[@mudgunner]

They are basically the same but the canebrake also has a different trigger

[@dauntusgaming]

Thank you!

[@senselesskilla7275]

I love your guns they are straight from cod

[@mudgunner]

Thank you! I grew up playing a lot!

[@whisperastra3637]

What’s the handstop/grip on your buddies gun?

[@lurtiskoe]

so i really dig the honey badger, hows the weight differences between that and the rattler? also, which is balanced better?

[@mudgunner]

The rattler is noticeably heavier. The Honeybadger balances better in my opinion

[@user-yt5uw4kh5u]

Is that the 6.75 or the 5.5 og rattler barre?

[@mudgunner]

5.5 Rattler barrel

[@user-yt5uw4kh5u]

@@mudgunner I have the same rattler and I’m liking the look. Do you remember the name of the exact name of the hand guard and the inches of it? I’m going to get that one and put a 300sps suppressor on mine

[@mudgunner]

I don’t know the exact length of it but it came off a Sig Canebrake Rattler

[@theGatologist]

DD PDW has a 7inch barrel or did your friend change the barrel?

[@mudgunner]

No he didn't, I just didn't realize the barrel length when I said it

[@PDevoLi]

Good comparison of all 3 platforms. I honestly found it hilarious when you said you don't have a lot of 300bo ammo because the rounds are pricey. But yet you have probably close to $10k in 3 rifles.😂 I went the cheaper route and built out my own 300bo rifle but yeah buying the ammo always hurts my wallet.

[@mudgunner]

I mean I have ammo, just not as much as all my other calibers. I can’t do a multi hundred round day on this caliber right now.

[@vltraviolence7640]

Price difference?

[@baptistgaming91]

For my 7.5 PDW i run 5.56 simply because its cheaper to practice with. Yeah it sacrifices energy and typical 5.56 ammo doesn't perform so well. But for defensive use TSX loadings can make between 800 to 850 pounds of energy out of the 7.5. Thats about what a 10.5 5.56 makes with mil spec ammo. 300 blk is overall better and more versatile, but most just can't spend the cash to train with is regularly.

[@msquared9605]

I’m not knocking your build, but there are more potential issues with 5.56 out of shorter barrel than just energy. You also have to think about reliable expansion of the projectile. Even more so with copper because they typically need a higher impact velocity to expand reliably

[@baptistgaming91]

@@msquared9605 I know you're not knocking it. And for most projectiles you are right. TSX is any grain will expand in a 7.5 between 75 yards with the 50 grain and up to about 125 yards with the 75 grain. That's from Barnes themselves. Dr. Gary roberts tested the 50 grain out of a 8 inch barrel and found the wound cavity almost identical to the one produced by the 20 inch rifle. Somehow the TSX loads make unusually high velocity in short barrels. People have clocked the 50 grain at over 2700 in the 7.5 inch barrel. 7.5 5.56 can be an effective PDW. It just needs very specific and expensive projectiles to do it. But the benefit is you can still use the cheap ammo to train with while only buying a few boxes of the 2$ per round stuff for self defense.

[@msquared9605]

@@baptistgaming91 good deal at least you know your shit 🤙🏼 Me personally I went with an 8.5 300blk for my “pdw/home defense/truck gun/ranch or woods gun” been loving that especially since I got it paired up with my first suppressor

[@Barbent1317]

7.5 is shorter than I have experience with for 5.56 but it’s all around a superior round to 300 blackout… 300 blackout is much quieter and that’s about it. 5.56 was a great choice bro!

[@Tommy-nt6wv]

@@baptistgaming91 how is the blow back in your face ?

[@wokewoke]

6:00 that happens all the time with cali compliant mags lol

[@jbcustom3745]

i learnt this the hardly, the HB BCG is not standard, its about 2-3 MM shorter then Mil-Spec, Milspec can be ran but reliability is questionable with any other carrier other then the HB specific one

[@lurtiskoe]

i believe if you were an early adopter they had standard bolts. same with the trigger. I know now they ship with their own trigger. they've made running changes too the platform over time.

[@mudgunner]

I haven’t tried swapping mine for anything else, but it looks standard to me. I did buy it the second they released it. Mine came with an AR gold trigger.

[@henrygonzalez360]

Switch out the Q HoneyBadger for a Noveske Ghetto Blaster, you'll thank me later.😂😂. Love your content btw.

[@mudgunner]

I have a Noveske 300blackout as well! It's built like a tank! I just don't have a can for it yet

[@fastbanshee1999]

Which Radian charging handle do you have on the Rattler? I haven't found anyone who makes one specifically for the Rattler and ive noticed it's different.

[@mudgunner]

It’s the Radian MCX charging handle. I don’t think they say rattler on the package but the rattler, Virtus, etc are all just MCX’s

[@fastbanshee1999]

@@mudgunner thanks!

[@Nom_AnorVSJedi]

Awesome builds! How does the Rattler compare to your Virtus?

[@mudgunner]

They are very different, but I love them both. It would be hard to pick just one.

[@USAlivewithGOD]

I just seen your last video on your two suppressive you just got in three days. Congratulations. PS how come you're having all the fun?

[@mudgunner]

Thank you! My buddy got to shoot as well if that's what you're referring to

[@exoticlegend558]

whats the handguard on that rattler?

[@guntotinhippie7384]

Canebrake rail

[@mudgunner]

Yup the Sig factory canebrake rail

[@brighthought11]

Rattler piston 1:5 socom pdw of choice

[@mudgunner]

It is a sweet gun

[@The_Ren]

DD has a 7” barrel

[@mudgunner]

Thanks for the correction! In my head, I thought it was a 5.5

[@TheCasualSirenEnthusiast]

Battle of the Blackouts

[@ICanDoItMyself]

Rattler for me. No intention of ever buying either of the other 2.

[@josueneris1861]

🔥🔥🔥

[@juanh.8707]

Pretty sure the HBSD was quietest here.

[@mudgunner]

It's really hard to say but they are all extremely quiet guns

[@ixibladeixi2639]

Omega 36M …. That’s all you need.

[@mudgunner]

Omega is nice too

[@russellridge8623]

Need to spring for a decibel meter. You’ve got $10,000 dollars worth of guns and no way to do useable test

[@rcrinsea]

To me, suppressed 300 Blk is still very loud. I don't know why people say it isn't.

[@caryhealy7862]

relative to what though

[@rcrinsea]

@@caryhealy7862 - Relative to what I expect when I see people on KZbin saying how quiet it is. I would expect only a small click. As it is, at least with my setup, I would never ever use it without good hearing protection.

[@thehustle-withchris]

Nice 😎

[@mudgunner]

Thanks!

[@snoogmzsnoogmz4435]

PDW has a 7 inch barrel.

[@mudgunner]

Thanks! I didn’t realize when I said that

[@scen3kid666]

Love my mcx tacops i run mine with a trash panda

[@mudgunner]

That’s a sweet setup! I still want to get a trash panda!

[@scen3kid666]

It was my first can and got it just for the mcx. Now im at like 7 cans now.

[@Deep.Purple]

you folded up the rattler but didn't push in the stocks on the others which actually are quite small. Im feeling Rattler bias. Just saying.. you spent a lot of time on the "quietness" the cans were all different. Use the same can on all of the pistols for a fair comparison.

[@mudgunner]

I’ve done videos comparing sizes before but this was to show these 3 setups being shot. I understand it’s not a fair comparison. It’s just to show the potential of the setups. Also I’ve trashed on the rattler in a few of my previous videos for being ammo picky

[@KMondy]

Flinch much. Good informative video.

[@mudgunner]

Thanks for watching!

[@brandonseals6732]

you flagged yourself several times...

[@alexhutton155]

Oh em geeeee 😮

[@ericc2530]

Is Elon musk ur dad

[@mudgunner]

Not that I know of

[@mudgunner]

Not that I know of

[@wra33vr7]

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[@Slimeface-d6l]

Who buys most of your firearms? Is it mom or dad?

[@mudgunner]

Sugar mom

[@Slimeface-d6l]

@@mudgunner lmao no female is going to buy you anything. Who are you playing captain obvious?

[@Slimeface-d6l]

@@mudgunner your balls have to drop first.