Honkai Star Rail Design Fatigue - What Happened?

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Noxaura Nyx

Noxaura Nyx

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@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Thank you all so much for not only the love on this video, but for sharing your love for the characters! It's been so fun reading your comments expanding further on why you love certain designs! Gallagher fans, I'm sorry I memed on you at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="415">6:55</a> Here are my legit thoughts: - I like that we got a more manlier design in a gacha game! His colors are well used throughout his design (black/white/red) making him look cohesive. He does have a lot of belts which I'm not sure is completely necessary (around the shoulders, thigh, etc.) but it's not distracting from the overall design. He's cool. "Hes Thirteen". And he will be missed. :')
@Dem0ns0fCha0s
@Dem0ns0fCha0s Ай бұрын
i thought i was insane when you skipped gallagher lmao
@ouroboros6738
@ouroboros6738 Ай бұрын
He's thirteen = dead 💀 nice pun
@commissar6860
@commissar6860 Ай бұрын
5000 years of Chinese culture to draw from and it's just qipao's with leg slits every single time.
@saiichwu
@saiichwu Ай бұрын
THISS
@user-gb5wb9vy2w
@user-gb5wb9vy2w Ай бұрын
Wait, are you even allowed to say that its not China's fault? What the fanbase says and what you're supposed to say is that the Chinese are incapable of creating or innovating new things. You're really earning that screen name.
@user-ll5fq3tl1j
@user-ll5fq3tl1j Ай бұрын
Agreed. This game does not feel made by a Chinese company. The same with Genshin maybe except Chenyu Vale.
@-amel-9896
@-amel-9896 Ай бұрын
​@@user-ll5fq3tl1jgenshin's liyue characters still all look really different from each other
@tash4995
@tash4995 Ай бұрын
righttt they all feel like sexy halloween outfits 😭
@Ionic_Glace
@Ionic_Glace Ай бұрын
Tldr: - Penaconian have good design - Belobogian have great design - Other space organization have uniqur desgin - Xianzhou desgin are...
@tatarsauce6314
@tatarsauce6314 Ай бұрын
Common belobog W
@spacezeppeli7358
@spacezeppeli7358 Ай бұрын
belobog is iffy considering seele's design
@ashrafhakim379
@ashrafhakim379 Ай бұрын
Seele barely has that snow planet people feel lmao
@Ionic_Glace
@Ionic_Glace Ай бұрын
@@ashrafhakim379 @spacezeppeli7358 Considering Seele was my favorite character back in HI3, I did overlook her flaw in design. Other Belobogian have 2 distinguish style - The Dark Blue, White, Black and Gilded Gold one represent the nobles and the leaders as a whole and an Old fashioned & washed coloring represent the Underground dwellers. Seele not fitting on any of these category make her design a bit wacky. BUT there might be some lore to it *wink wink*. Some small lore bomb include Seele Scythe was brought from Sampo, who is notoriously (with Sparkle and The Masked Fools) dangerous and mysterious. Also Seele clothing isn't like that all the time, since we know how baby Seele looked, so it theory that Seele clothing was warped by the Quantum power (either by entering and existing her stealth mode, or she have warped into the Sea of Quanta once), giving it the distinguish Quantum color.
@ellyevans176
@ellyevans176 Ай бұрын
Xianzhou getting the short end of the stick again 😭
@titandarknight2698
@titandarknight2698 Ай бұрын
One thing I hate is how all the dudes have pants. Like the same copy paste pants. I wish they had the same variety in pants as they do for women.
@wendyart7142
@wendyart7142 Ай бұрын
Only boy/teen characters (Misha, for example) wear shorts. Tall men wear same pants and shoes, well maybe exept for ratio, he wears sandals
@catbear128
@catbear128 Ай бұрын
tbf the women barely have pants
@merusotajio2222
@merusotajio2222 Ай бұрын
​@@catbear128LOL I love this 😂
@desiredsweets
@desiredsweets Ай бұрын
Where do you see pants on the women? Cuz apparently I'm blind.
@lucianofyro3445
@lucianofyro3445 Ай бұрын
​@@desiredsweetsTopaz? 😂
@WhO-tv4ls
@WhO-tv4ls Ай бұрын
Bronya's earrings match with Cocolia's! That's why they look out of place. She wears them because she loves her mom! Edit: you can see it on the lc Memories of the Past :')
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
I just took another look and now I'm sad :') Now it makes sense
@hatsunedkaname
@hatsunedkaname Ай бұрын
They're also a reference to Herrscher of Reason's earrings as they're the exact same (and most Bronya designs from HI3rd and GGZ), so if they stand out from the general colors it was made on purpose as they also do in her other designs
@WhO-tv4ls
@WhO-tv4ls Ай бұрын
@@hatsunedkaname ooh I didn't know that. Tysm for telling me!
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
@@noxauranyx And those earrings kinda resemble to Fabergé Eggs, at least for me the first thought was the Fabergé Eggs when i first seen her earrings. Which makes it even better, since those eggs are known for being Russian (the eggs were created by the jewellery firm House of Fabergé, in Saint Petersburg, Russia for the royal family) and Belobog is kinda seems like a Russia reference and the Supreme Guardian is kinda a royalty in a sense (especially with the many slavic sounding names you would find there).
@sakiamira
@sakiamira Ай бұрын
And when SPOILER: COCOLIA DISINTEGRATES, THE FIRST TO GO AWAY WERE HERE EARRINGS.
@Sinc3r3ly
@Sinc3r3ly Ай бұрын
“Diluc if he didn’t go through trauma” Argenti: *an orphan who grew up in war and killed one of his friends because he was so indoctrinated*
@mimo__.-
@mimo__.- Ай бұрын
Oh damn, is that from his character story profile?
@bee_wannabe
@bee_wannabe Ай бұрын
Wtf i should read his story's 😢
@SmashTheAdam
@SmashTheAdam Ай бұрын
Holy moly goly shit, Argenti actually had a sad past?, I would have literally never thought that
@Otherface
@Otherface 17 күн бұрын
Hold. The fuck. Up. His backstory is really that sad?! Like, i always thought that he was just a crazy man who rizz up everything that is infront of him!
@HexaDecimus
@HexaDecimus Ай бұрын
Honestly it's the Xianzhou designs I'm getting sick of.
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
I'd have to agree. They're pretty but a lot of it is repetitive now.
@mangosday
@mangosday Ай бұрын
I was already iffy about it way back when Yukong came out (too similar to Tingyun), then they just kept using the same template over and over again.
@ax_xton
@ax_xton Ай бұрын
I'm so glad someone else agrees. Penacony designs were getting better but as soon as they announced we're going back to the xianzhou I knew the designs would be doomed. I mean, lingsha just looks like sparkle 😭😭😭😭 it's a shame, bc they obviously have the ability to make unique designs (boothill, aventurine, Gallagher, etc) but they just.. don't in the xianzhou. Even firefly was boring to me tbh, SAM is cool but not her. Idk, the hsr designs always feel so half-assed as is, but it's particular a problem with those ones
@foggyfrog
@foggyfrog Ай бұрын
Agree it feels like they don't even put too much thought into it and it's always the same concept and shape but recolored with different accessories, like I want to see something else I don't want to pull for reskins. Even Yunli and Jade aren't so well designed, it's like they're not putting that much passion in them, and it mostly affect the female playable characters. Don't get me started on the female Xianzhou designs, I was already irked when Ruan Mei came and then they keep doing that with Sparkle. When Lingsha came my hope died, I guess there are still like 5 more new Xianzhou females with this designs.
@ZoeCuiM
@ZoeCuiM Ай бұрын
I think everyone feels this way
@alonelyqilin4613
@alonelyqilin4613 Ай бұрын
This is honestly why Hunt March 7th stood out to me in a good way. Her fit's color palette and smaller accessories are genuinely so pleasant to look at, especially as a contrast to her pink hair. Plus points for being one of the most tasteful and modest fits in the entire game as well, just goes to show that you can make pretty designs without relying too much on fanservice. Another character that stood out was Feixiao, she's genuinely just a breath of fresh air as far as Xianzhou designs go, and I really like the blending of her colors!
@cloveangel
@cloveangel Ай бұрын
I REALLY ADORE her design, and I’m so excited to play her! Some people find it weird, but the deep red really compliments her light cotton candy colours and the black makes her look really clean and well-fitted, she just looks comfortable!! And yeah, the modesty with that beautiful shirt is everything to me (hsr when will you release a woman with pants)
@alonelyqilin4613
@alonelyqilin4613 Ай бұрын
​@@cloveangel I'm also in love with the red, it's such a gorgeous shade to compliment and bring everything together nicely! Also, same, I've been itching for a playable woman in pants, especially someone from the IPC or Genius Society, for a while now, hopefully one from the Ten Stonehearts^^
@Riealomea
@Riealomea Ай бұрын
Lore thanks: Give Yunli the credit since she choose and give march those drip and this is canon
@staeriix
@staeriix Ай бұрын
yes it’s so cute 😭 red works well for her character
@alonelyqilin4613
@alonelyqilin4613 Ай бұрын
​@@Riealomea Bless Yunli for giving March one of the prettiest outfits in the game 🙏 Although I'm actually curious whether the dress she gave is standard fashion for the Xianzhou Zhuming considering it is far too different from the Luofu and even the Yaoqing folks.
@tatarsauce6314
@tatarsauce6314 Ай бұрын
How many years will it take for a playable girl to put on some pants like Arlecchino?
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Right?? Arlecchino's design is so good too.
@yaycoolgirls
@yaycoolgirls Ай бұрын
What’s funny is that Jade was supposed to have pants! There was a leaked model that released way before her appearance and she had cool looking pants. :(
@AgsNfz
@AgsNfz Ай бұрын
Maybe the bartender will come one day
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
A certain Bartender
@opalwisdom9780
@opalwisdom9780 Ай бұрын
@@yaycoolgirlswait legit? Damn we were robbed. 😢 I remember the first time we see Jade in the story we only saw her top half and I liked it. Then the full body art came out and I’m like, really? A short skirt? It doesn’t suit how elegant the top half of her design looks.
@mercier390
@mercier390 Ай бұрын
Isnt there a quest where all the people Clara helps give her shoes and she basically goes "ahh thanks but these are weird"
@Aiolet
@Aiolet Ай бұрын
Yes, but the majority kinda don't know 😕 🤷
@heenthousiast383
@heenthousiast383 Ай бұрын
she also says she can't walk with them and keeps twisting her ankles
@nexaaaaaaa
@nexaaaaaaa Ай бұрын
​@@heenthousiast383 yep! Honestly the weird side of the community makes so many weird jokes about her feet, like WHY are they making the feet, especially on a child, sexual?? I get it's a kink but still it's so gross
@Aiden-iy9du
@Aiden-iy9du Ай бұрын
@@nexaaaaaaa lol. lmao even.
@Elyssa_00
@Elyssa_00 Ай бұрын
Yes. And she told us in the chat the reason why she doesn't wear shoes after we finish the mission. Most people I see either forget about this fact, don't know about this fact (because they either haven't finish the mission yet or they don't do their own research), or just brush this fact off. That's why most people I see tend to ask "Why doesn't she wear any shoes?" or just feel weirded out by the fact that she doesn't wear shoes, when the game already provided us the reason why she doesn't wear shoes.
@lachucholayil
@lachucholayil Ай бұрын
Hsr art director is obsessed with women's shoulder. Bro has a fetish. There's no other explanation why 99% of the women from Belobog to Xianzhou to Penacony all have the same off shoulder design.
@gh4939
@gh4939 29 күн бұрын
Considering that the male creator of Mortal Kombat explicitly talks about his thing for thighs in great detail, and that’s exactly why he created Chin Li, I wouldn’t put it past them
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
And hands, hands definitely
@kaenryuuart543
@kaenryuuart543 28 күн бұрын
Dude’s the reason girls can’t show shoulder in school
@chifffy
@chifffy Ай бұрын
I really love her designs but God when they don't know what to do they just default to the same open shoulder brown chest area, fabric pulled around hips, god it's boring Ruan mei, tingyun, yukong, lingsha, hanya you have a lot to answer for
@chifffy
@chifffy Ай бұрын
Jingliu too I forgot about her design as usual
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
Well, Tingyun, Yukong and Hanya are all 3 from the same Xianzhou ship, so of course their clothes will be similar because of local fashion. And as for Lingsha, she is also from the Xianzhou alliance (though i'm not sure which ship), so obviously the Xianzhou ships will have somewhat similar clothing overall even if there is some difference ship by ship.
@funfactmaker4924
@funfactmaker4924 Ай бұрын
@@tovarishchfeixiaoYou can just take any Chinese outfits and say it’s on the luofu fashion,they don’t need to look THIS similar
@asafesseidonsapphire
@asafesseidonsapphire Ай бұрын
​@@tovarishchfeixiao There's actually a huge difference in style between ships, it's just that we have too many Xianzhou characters that are from the Luofu, which basically sets a precedent that at least 80% of the characters 3 years from now may end up being people from the Xianzhou Alliance.
@haestya
@haestya Ай бұрын
I've always haaated how they just slap on the same pair of pants and a garter belt on every male character. I still think Dan Heng IL would look miles better with a long skirt, but they're as scared to do that as as they're scared to give female characters some pants, or even short hair. hell, I'd be beyond happy if they explored the myriad of hanfu types that are out there! traditional chinese clothing is more interesting than just this. furthermore, the maximalist design loops back to being utterly bland. effective character design usually relies on few key characteristics, and I wish they'd bank on that instead. the closest to that I can think of are Clara and the MC.
@sor4104
@sor4104 Ай бұрын
same for Jiaoqiu he would look so good if he wore hanfu or a long flowy skirt😭
@stevendao8303
@stevendao8303 Ай бұрын
to be honest...I agree with this take as the repetitive concept of lingerie is just so... boring tbh, even Genshin had more variety despite them using bodysuit as their usual trope
@stevendao8303
@stevendao8303 Ай бұрын
21:45 you forgot black swan
@RyougiVector
@RyougiVector Ай бұрын
Ruan Mei would look so good in a simple lab coat, turtleneck, and glasses...could add teal streaks to her hair to make her stand out more too.
@foggyfrog
@foggyfrog Ай бұрын
There are soo many ways to make her personality shines through the clothing, but they slapped the overused female Xianzhou outfit instead, and it really doesn't tell anything
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
@@foggyfrog But isn't she originates from one of the Xianzhou ships though?
@foggyfrog
@foggyfrog Ай бұрын
@@tovarishchfeixiao it's surely possible to make her look like she came from a Xianzhou ship without using this overused dress design, doesn't even have to be strictly using a usual lab coat. It's also the way that nothing really stands out in her design and her outfit doesn't really read as manipulative twisted scientist
@hdmaad
@hdmaad Ай бұрын
​@@foggyfrogThe only good part os the belt around her tigh that is shaped like a DNA which gives you hints of her function. Other than that, her design is pure soft corn and fanservice.
@foggyfrog
@foggyfrog Ай бұрын
@@hdmaad even then the dna pictures are just pasted into her clothes. It's a nice touch but it seems lazy. And yes, they waifued her and her design so bad. Even in the story they make the trailblazer simp for her after what she has done, it's just nonsensical. She could be a more compelling character and villain if they didn't force fanservice into her, now she is seemingly just evil but without charms, sad because her characterization got so much potentials.
@x3AnimeFanXD
@x3AnimeFanXD Ай бұрын
Blade's pants give you that impression probably that he would be wearing a fantasy school uniform... I hate it xD. However, his jacket itself is a reference to a historic chinese tapestry (Lady Dai's Funeral Banner) which may or may not tell you more about his past and immortality.
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Oh that's so cool!!
@firelight3806
@firelight3806 23 күн бұрын
Neat!
@fandomowytoscik7885
@fandomowytoscik7885 Ай бұрын
Misha's design in terms of foreshadowing and storytelling is superior
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Yes! I had a feeling when he was realeased that he may be important and it was so nice to see that come true. It was the eyes that gave it away for me.
@yaycoolgirls
@yaycoolgirls Ай бұрын
I love HuoHuo’s design so MUCH! when she was first dripped market, I didn’t even care if she was a meta healer blah blah or whatever, but upon seeing her TAIL and that nice design, I knew I had to get her.
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Yeah! I was blown away with her drip marketing too.
@mochiandturtles5642
@mochiandturtles5642 Ай бұрын
Huohuo is actually a decent healer (blast heals to adjacent team, ATK boost and regen energy on ult, she even has a passive that heals your character when they ult)
@SleepingImp_
@SleepingImp_ Ай бұрын
The thing i see is a lot of the females have one thing very similar, shoulders, chest, and legs are usually exposed. Theyre always wearing heels. Meanwhile the males usually have different and unique designs where they can be completely covered up like Luocha and argenti, or more exposed like dan heng imbibitor lunae or (technically) boothill.
@chesspiece4257
@chesspiece4257 Ай бұрын
but always with the same pants and pose TT
@muhammadfarisaulia567
@muhammadfarisaulia567 Ай бұрын
One thing that I find really cool about Firefly's design is that in isolation Firefly looks pretty and that's it, her outfit wouldn't look out of place in a line of fairy-themed Barbie dolls. But that's just half of Firefly's design, because she's a two in one deal, she's both Firefly and SAM. When you look at both of the designs you get some interesting contrast Firefly's shape language use a lot of rounded edges while SAM is all sharp angles. Firefly's color scheme is soft while SAM is all silver. Firefly's outfit looks highly personalized, like she picked the outfit and all the accessories herself, while SAM looks like it was made in an assembly line. SAM does not have any kind of personalization anywhere in it's design, this is not the armor of some general who need to stand out in the battle field or a proud warrior displaying their trophies and battle scars, SAM's design looks like it was not expected to survive a battle, it looks expendable. The Firefly unit is expected to die fighting the swarm and be replaced by other Fireflies, the pilot does not matter, the armor does not matter, what matters is that they fight, if they live then they have to fight again, if they die then they get replaced. And just by looking at the design of both Firefly and SAM we can get a sense of the story and character of Firefly without ever seeing the trailer or even playing the Penacony story. We have a character who is highly personalized piloting an armor designed to be expendable, Firefly does not want to die and yet that's all she was expected to do.
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
This is such an excellent deep dive into Firefly and SAMs design. As a mass created weapon that was even given a syndrome as a 'failsafe' and was all created to look the same, Firefly's design goes out of its way to be very custom and unique to her. Because she is no longer a mass produced weapon, but her own person. Completely agree with you here that not only is it a well thought out design for both of them, but their two designs further expand on her story!
@Josh-qt5zi
@Josh-qt5zi Ай бұрын
​@noxauranyx poor Firefly is disabled that she had to be inside her S.A.M suit,that she even completely naked inside cause the council of Glamoth never considered her human
@runic6452
@runic6452 Ай бұрын
Also, her "firefly mode" SAM is a great fusion of the two designs, so it actually makes a 3 design for 1 unit
@ethanleongsem7582
@ethanleongsem7582 Ай бұрын
but can't she customize her armor now.
@Josh-qt5zi
@Josh-qt5zi Ай бұрын
@ethanleongsem7582 atleast she still wearing her hair associates while begin naked inside
@ichikasolos
@ichikasolos Ай бұрын
Ruan Mei would've looked so much better in a lab coat.
@Mutualititve
@Mutualititve Ай бұрын
I just really, REALLY, hate going back to Xianzhou again for the N time just to see the same ass repetitive outfit and the same characters over and over again. Like cmon, even Herta Space Station and Belobog can be a more interesting place for another patch, give us actually Sci Fi characters, give me someone in a suit, just give me someone that isn't from Xianzhou or have a fit that is just Xianzhou in disguise.
@kawviedmond
@kawviedmond Ай бұрын
same
@foggyfrog
@foggyfrog Ай бұрын
Would love to see more sci-fi looking characters and places like Herta Space Station, soo many potentials for cool looking characters
@hdmaad
@hdmaad Ай бұрын
Xianzhou's main writter did such a terrible job that he got fired lmao don't worry, his successors will make it better
@hang5797
@hang5797 Ай бұрын
​@@hdmaadthat explains so much LMAO
@Soggycereal737
@Soggycereal737 Ай бұрын
​@@hdmaadwait are you for real? THANK GOD BRO 🙏🙏😭
@CherryArtemis0
@CherryArtemis0 Ай бұрын
A little thing to note about Robin is that her dress shares some similarities to the Halovian performer npcs. The split on the side, an ornament at the top of the split, she wears gloves (though not ballgown gloves), and the wing designs mimic the wrapped fabric on the npc dresses. And with the Belabogians, a lot of them share the white, blue, and black because of their association with the Silvermane Guards. Despite their unique designs, you can tell they are a unit when you group them together. And even though Serval isn’t a member, she used to be. Hence her sharing the white and blue. Lynx is an exception, but her siblings and bestie Pela are associated. So she kind of matches them by associating with them. It’s all so good!
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
For a game that travels to multiple universes, cohesiveness of the cast within the worlds we visit is such a nice touch. Belebog did a good job of keeping them tied together while the characters still are unique in their own ways.
@sonyac.8205
@sonyac.8205 Ай бұрын
Yess, I loved how the Silvermane Guards actually have a uniform and match with the npcs. They have the blue and white and the little metal badges and button designs match too they just vary in gold and silver. Contrast this with Genshin where characters like Gourou and Sara don't even match their soldiers :/
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
I think in case of Lynx they maybe tried to make her fit into the snowy nature of the planet, since she is well known for camping around in the snowy wilderness. And i guess she maybe have a somewhat different shade of blue compared to the Silvermane's blue.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
@@sonyac.8205 But isn't Gourou and Sara on a General's level in rank in their own army? That would make a logical distinction for them to be different from regular soldiers, especially in a time period where the whole Inazuma design came from. While the Silvermane Guards in HSR is more like an organization to be kinda like the police of Belobog in a knight-like style, kinda like what would you see in a medieval style movie in the castle and in the capital marching around like some police/body guard.
@sonyac.8205
@sonyac.8205 Ай бұрын
@tovarishcheleonora8542 Cocolia has some unique things about her too like I think she has a pin or metal that is unique to her and no other character has the green shawl she does either. But still her outfit shares the color scheme and feels like a high ranking version of the silvermane guards. I wish the Knights of Favonius had a more cohesive theme to them also. Even if they are from different departments or whatever the way the npcs look doesn't resemble the playable characters at all. There's not a single badge or pin or symbol that is repeated in any design that makes me think "oh that's the symbol of the Knights of Favonius"
@lillyie
@lillyie Ай бұрын
sparkle is not from xianzhou but with her design you would think she is from there at first
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Yeah! That's what I thought when she first was introduced but had to do a double take. Ruan Mei too.
@andytlwang
@andytlwang Ай бұрын
@@noxauranyx Xianzhou is inspired by Chinese where as Sparkle's design more based on Japanese with the kabuki fox mask on her head and obi-kimono belt. Just saying.
@samuelsalvatore4511
@samuelsalvatore4511 Ай бұрын
@@andytlwang and yet despite being inspired by two different cultures the designs have so many similarities that it's almost impossible not to believe that sparke is from the xianzhou
@vermilion6966
@vermilion6966 Ай бұрын
Both are asian themed. Loufu is cinese and sparkle is japanese. So obviously similar
@vermilion6966
@vermilion6966 Ай бұрын
​@@samuelsalvatore4511they arent "entirely different" 😂 japan took a lot from china including the language. Its like saying uk snd us have completely different cultures 😂
@andrewcook4873
@andrewcook4873 Ай бұрын
The xianzhou designs do seem a bit samey. They’re good but they’re too similar to each other and I don’t think it helps that the other characters have designs that also share similarities. I read the xianzhou characters as Chinese inspired but Ruan Mei and Sparke as Japanese inspired yet their designs seem so similar to the xianzhou characters that you can’t really tell. I like Himeko’s dress, it strikes me as Ancient Greek inspired, similar to Dr. Ratio. I like that Himeko’s design seems to pull from a different source than the other characters that sets her apart. In general a lot of the character designs in HSR use a lot of the same elements and it’s nice to see a different style used for some characters like Himeko and Herta(with her Victorian doll look).
@rafaela00002
@rafaela00002 Ай бұрын
isn't ruan mei also a chinese name?
@andrewcook4873
@andrewcook4873 Ай бұрын
@@rafaela00002 I don’t know about that. I guess it feels like that to me because she has a sakura/cherry blossom thing going on which I associate with Japan. There’s no indication, as far as I remember, of her being from a xianzhou ship so I guess I assumed that she wasn’t.
@rafaela00002
@rafaela00002 Ай бұрын
@@andrewcook4873 yeah, i guess we'll have to wait for the game to give more information about her for us to know where she's from
@Pandaymonic
@Pandaymonic Ай бұрын
​@@andrewcook4873阮梅 or Ruan Mei is a chinese name, it also cannot be properly pronounced without adjustments in japanese Cherry blossoms are also not japan exclusive, it's likely they originated in chinese territory and found it's way to Japan during the Tang era That aside, Mei has Plum blossoms, which have held significant symbolic significance in China for centuries
@ethanleongsem7582
@ethanleongsem7582 Ай бұрын
hoyoverse absolutely cooked with dr ratio and boothill tho
@bunnybenadryl
@bunnybenadryl Ай бұрын
HSR NEEDS TO GIVE SOME OF THE WOMEN SHORT HAIR AND PANTS 🙏🙏
@ethanleongsem7582
@ethanleongsem7582 Ай бұрын
and were not talking about booty shorts.
@bunnybenadryl
@bunnybenadryl Ай бұрын
@@ethanleongsem7582 REAL
@RyougiVector
@RyougiVector Ай бұрын
I was kinda disappointed when I realized Feixiao didn't have short hair. I think she looks better without long hair.
@notatallfunctional
@notatallfunctional Ай бұрын
I can’t wait till Siobhan is playable
@dyingofdioxide
@dyingofdioxide Ай бұрын
xueyi sort of has that, her legs are fully covered too even if it's shorts and tights
@idkman6230
@idkman6230 Ай бұрын
Everyone is sick of the Xianxhou designs but at least that knew fox pirate girl who is technically from there looks different I’m hoping this is the start of new designs from them😭
@foggyfrog
@foggyfrog Ай бұрын
I was so happy seeing the new Xianzhou general Feixiao, but then they drip marketed Lingsha after her and it's still the same dress and I facepalmed so hard. I thought they're going to take a new direction.
@akarifuyuki9763
@akarifuyuki9763 Ай бұрын
​@@foggyfrog Lingsha is just Sparkle without twin tails
@_babagrill
@_babagrill Ай бұрын
​@@foggyfrogLingsha just look like an NPC with Sparkle's outfit
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 Ай бұрын
​@@_babagrillExactly
@notatallfunctional
@notatallfunctional Ай бұрын
@@akarifuyuki9763Combine the two of them, and you get Hutao 😅
@arlo493
@arlo493 Ай бұрын
Serval's outfit shows her scientist and rockstar roles btw!
@dan_chen
@dan_chen Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="938">15:38</a> the reason why she wears the choker is also the reason why her voice got affected so much when the Harmony in Penacony was tainted. And once you've figured it all out, her deal with Jade was even more tragic
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Yes :( It breaks my heart.
@Elyssa_00
@Elyssa_00 Ай бұрын
I forgot where I read this, but there's also another reason why she covered her neck. The reason is to cover "something" on her neck (I don't want to give too much context in case there are people who don't know about Robin's story that read my reply).
@dan_chen
@dan_chen Ай бұрын
@@Elyssa_00 that was exactly what I was talking about, and it was also why she has to rely on the vibrations of Harmony to produce voice. Now think about the ramifications of the deal with Jade with that fact
@moriex1608
@moriex1608 Ай бұрын
​@@dan_chenI'm a little lost can you explain what you mean regarding Robin's deal with Jade? I don't think I actually understood what Robin gave in exchange
@dan_chen
@dan_chen Ай бұрын
@@moriex1608 to free Sunday, Robin was willing to give her most important thing, which is her Harmony power. Also when we met her on the Radiant Feldspar she said that she had cancelled all of her tours and concerts to go on a "trip". Again, I'm trying to not spoil things here so sorry for being vague
@strudel_doodles
@strudel_doodles Ай бұрын
idk if it’s just me but lingsha’s design exhausts me. it’s just sparkle with xueyi’s outfit and a touch of hanya. feixiao’s outfit is a little refreshing with the shorts and tank top but lingsha makes me want to smash my head into the wall. even a touch of a unique clothing color like a flashy pink/coral or orange and silver accents or hair color like a silvery brown would make me hate it less but when she was revealed i just sighed and moved on with my life. i’m sick of the red and gold pallet that’s been used one too many times now.
@connorradcliffe1769
@connorradcliffe1769 Ай бұрын
I just rolled my eyes, sick of the females getting copy and pasted designs or getting exposed to the point they're almost naked
@sirensong1794
@sirensong1794 Ай бұрын
ive noticed that they LOVE the sweetheart neckline design and detached sleeves on their xianzhou ladies, and while i dont necessarily need a character's dress in a gacha game to be "practical" or fit for battle, the only characters i really felt like fit the look were guinaifen who's a more young, fun, and modern character and robin, who's also got a more modern inclination but also all of her other looks are either off the shoulder with a collar or go all the way up to her neck which cover her bullet scar, which is a nice touch. otherwise when it comes to charaters like jingliu, yukong, ruan mei, etc you can really see the dress silhouette being copypasted and it doesnt necessarily fit all of them! to me the biggest missed chance is black swan. i really wish she had a longer/flowy dress to emphasize her fortune telling aesthetics, and the fact she's floating would've let them do something cool with the animations. her current look feels a little empty, like she should have some other flowy bit of fabric The new xianzhou ladies are changing it up at least! yunli and feixiao both look fairly distinct, though im not too big on lingsha's look
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
For Xianzhou, it's likely a Xianzhou cultural thing and local fashion. While Yunli and Feixiao are generals of other Xianzhou ships, and it seems that generals tend to have clothes that look different from other people on the ship, maybe to emphasize the rank difference.
@asafesseidonsapphire
@asafesseidonsapphire Ай бұрын
​@@tovarishchfeixiao Yunli is related to a general, not a general.
@Diyergam
@Diyergam Ай бұрын
Oh my God, I agree with your comment so much and especially about Black Swan! Like when I first saw her in the Myriad Celestial Trailer I ABSOULETLY loved her design and even considered pulling for her. But after her full model was revealed, something just felt...off. It was as if she lost some of her gorgeousness from the Trailer... Idk it's just her lower body looks like a copy paste of Kafka's, except it actually fits Kafka while it just looks weird on Black Swan. She definitely deserves a long flowy dress, it would give her vibes/aesthetic more! :')
@Ghostfoxkori
@Ghostfoxkori Ай бұрын
> Looks once > Ya'll are delusional these designs are fire > Looks twice > Actually nevermind you have a point
@JH-no8sy
@JH-no8sy Ай бұрын
The women must almost all have bunions and sore feet, since most run around in pointed heels all day.
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
This is my key evidence that fanservice is top priority. Jade is all fanservice, no substance. My proudest banner skip of my life.
@history.fictionologist
@history.fictionologist Ай бұрын
yeah the moment i saw yukong, its too similar too tingyun but i said "maybe its just the skyfaring commision uniform", and then jingliu was released i was like "really🙄"
@animuswonder
@animuswonder Ай бұрын
i think huohuo is one of the best luofu designs so far (alongside dan heng) !! mainly for 2 reasons: 1. the tail. it stands out against the other foxians, also it’s literally a whole 2nd character! huohuo’s design *is* her personality. and i think that’s lacking in a lot of the other characters. 2. a cohesive color palette, an interesting design choice, overall taking a different route in terms of patterns from the other luofu characters.
@animuswonder
@animuswonder Ай бұрын
i’m so sad i didn’t get her on her first run (i had taken a break, come back the last few days and didn’t get her sadly)
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
She's on the banner rn. She's very adorable! The whole deal with her tail is funny too
@Danny-mp8dq
@Danny-mp8dq Ай бұрын
"Your final challenge. Make a female character who isn't just wearing tight thigh highs, short shorts, bare legs, a bunch of exposed holes, and showing a lot of shoulder and armpit." "Oh hell, nah player, you're tweaking."
@platinai3541
@platinai3541 Ай бұрын
Something that contributes to the design fatigue that a lot of people dont talk about is the fact that they all have the same posture/ standing animation. Something that could easily break apart their designs is if star rail made an effort with giving characters custom idles and not just the same reused standby animation for every character
@wintermelody6917
@wintermelody6917 Ай бұрын
when could they recreate such a top tier design like kafka 😅
@Cuddle_with_Furina
@Cuddle_with_Furina Ай бұрын
Only Xueyi , HuoHuo & Fu Xuan show the difference
@Josh-qt5zi
@Josh-qt5zi Ай бұрын
Honestly can't wait for Feixiao cause she is wearing an different clothes
@samuelsalvatore4511
@samuelsalvatore4511 Ай бұрын
i love xueyi, it's so rare to see a female hoyoverse character that cover her whole body
@Josh-qt5zi
@Josh-qt5zi Ай бұрын
@samuelsalvatore4511 shame she kinda forgettable or being a punchbaging when it either Yanqing moment to shire or when he not present in the story
@Cuddle_with_Furina
@Cuddle_with_Furina Ай бұрын
@@samuelsalvatore4511 well Xueyi still have holes on left & right of her shirt .
@feedzuh
@feedzuh Ай бұрын
I would say Yunli is pretty fresh too, but moreso because she came from Zhuming. Same with Feixiao since she came from Yaoqing. Luofu's designs for females are just mostly boring outside of those you already mentioned.
@ekthepro
@ekthepro Ай бұрын
I think making the outfit somewhat more realistic will make it look better (as in the shapes not colours) cause some outfits just make the character look naked and not in a good way (its no even hot just kinda weird)
@kaiseayaandruis1597
@kaiseayaandruis1597 Ай бұрын
they;re trying so hard to be sexy they loop back around to being unsexy
@seiryuu305
@seiryuu305 Ай бұрын
I found them having a weird direction in character design that they're not focusing and sometimes ignoring silhouette. No character have crazy voluminous hair or big ass horns or ect... to make the silhouette stand out. I would argue thats Clara or Firefly have this by having a huge ass robot, or Topaz for having a pig pet, but on their body alone there isnt much they just a rectangle. Overall the design fell bland because no matter how much details you put on their minimal outfit to make it busy they're just going to look like the same thing in a different font. And at least if your design is bland, make their default pose different, everyone is just A posing didnt help.
@momochora
@momochora Ай бұрын
LOL you are so right here!!!! it's pathetic that they're all like A posing with blank faces in the character screen it rly emphasizes how bland their forms are. they seemed to put more effort in their like splash art but you barely ever get to see it. meanwhile in zzz I'm flipping thru menus just to watch my characters posing
@Tingling10
@Tingling10 Ай бұрын
I wish they have women characters that actually have them cover their shoulders. They can implement traditional hanfu for Luofu characters, there are like a lot of different kinds of hanfu dresses so it’s close to impossible for them to over use it.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
But then the problem of some people would be "it's too historic".
@goopwithahat7142
@goopwithahat7142 Ай бұрын
@@tovarishchfeixiao no they’re loser porn addicts who don’t what good character design is
@Sam-je2xj
@Sam-je2xj Ай бұрын
All the male design having coat at back I love them but it's kind of getting stale 😭😭
@ultravioletishere
@ultravioletishere Ай бұрын
i tend to find the male designs more varied when it comes to the front but yeah i agree with the back portion lol
@TheJH1015
@TheJH1015 Ай бұрын
the thing I love about Ruan Mei's design is the DNA-double helix spirals that are prevalent in a lot of places. Her hairpin, the sides and flaps of her dress, are all really nice since she's experimenting with creating life!
@thesimpnations8283
@thesimpnations8283 Ай бұрын
I always find it weird that both Ruan Mei and Sparkle having more Xianzou looking clothing. It makes less sense once you remember that Ruan Mei is a scientist with a few very loose screws and Sparkle is a very messed up entertainer
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
I'd love to see Ruan Mei with a cool looking lab coat.
@motivateddad
@motivateddad Ай бұрын
Xianzhou feels like an obligatory mandate to be included rather than an inspired setting. Rarely do Xianzhou characters peak my interest. Like the newest announced Lingsheng is just "older-looking" Sparkle. Yunli's design hits me all in the wrong ways in both character and gameplay design. Fei Xiao is alright. I forgot about the male Foxian just like Hoyoverse themselves. Older characters suffer too. Like Huo Huo having the worst disconnect between character design and gameplay, Ruan Mei looks too much like a Xianzhou character because there isn't much to differentiate herself to look more like a Genius Society member, Guinafen has nothing that conveys her "non-nativeness" to Xianzhou nor her being a streamer and Xueyi has nothing in her design that conveys she's an automaton. That doesn't mean all Xianzhou designs are bad. Bailu and Dan Heng IL both do the Long dragon theme and hit the mark in different ways. Fu Xuan conveys everything about her being a mystic/seer. Huo Huo (character design not gameplay) is one of my favorite designs and character dynamics. And can't talk about best Xianzhou design without mentioning Jingyuan himself.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
Ummmmm, just because Ruan Mei is part of the Genius Society that doesn't means she can't come from one of the Xianzhou ships. And as far as i remember, there is no uniform for the Society. And obviously Guinaifen will have similar clothes like the locals if she lives there for long enough and plans to stay even longer. And she kinda has a street performer vibe to her outfit, which she originally is.
@connorradcliffe1769
@connorradcliffe1769 Ай бұрын
Guinaifen makes sense since she's trying to integrate and be a citizen of the Luofu, but since her real name is "Guinevere" and her brother is Lancelot, it would be interesting to see her in a western style outfit
@goopwithahat7142
@goopwithahat7142 Ай бұрын
@@tovarishchfeixiao Ruan Mei literally DOES NOT COME FROM XIANZHOU
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
Hoyo did great for Liyue. The Lufou just ain't it..
@rafaelrose14
@rafaelrose14 Ай бұрын
the fact tht lingsha hv the same design even tho she’s suppose to be from a different ship lol
@alonelyqilin4613
@alonelyqilin4613 Ай бұрын
She isn't actually, she's still from the Luofu, thus, she has the usual Luofu dress tropes. Still though, I'm not too excited for her in terms of character design.
@dan_chen
@dan_chen Ай бұрын
@@rafaelrose14 she was born on the Luofu and is now returning on her post there, so not really that different. The ones that should come from different ships are Sus, Fu Xuan, Yunli, Jiaoqiu, Feixiao
@hdmaad
@hdmaad Ай бұрын
​@@alonelyqilin4613well she's part of the sanctus medicus experiment. So expect her to be a twisted vilain, not an ally
@smuglumine9379
@smuglumine9379 Ай бұрын
Not just the same design with lingsha, she also looks just like sparkle on top of that😭
@zefirdude
@zefirdude Ай бұрын
Honestly annihilation gang had a bit of fresh looks, but they are just gone with the wind.😅
@_babagrill
@_babagrill Ай бұрын
only ifrit is dead. hopefully we get his children as playable in the future
@Carlisho
@Carlisho Ай бұрын
@@_babagrillpress *X* to doubt
@passiveaggresivesquirrel2052
@passiveaggresivesquirrel2052 Ай бұрын
we will get them in the very distant future
@blankuser987
@blankuser987 Ай бұрын
honestly, the luofu designs bother me the most the designers are STILL doing the same damn design of qipao but it has to be sexy with a leg slits like lingsha, one of the upcoming characters deadass just looks like a brunette ruan mei with how similar their outfits are i don't mind designs that are more fanservice-y (it's a gacha game so it's expected) but i wish designs weren't so repetitive
@Qrockpot
@Qrockpot Ай бұрын
Sadly, we haven't even seen 5% of the Xianzhou alliance
@_babagrill
@_babagrill Ай бұрын
i hope they won't make more of these repetitive design at least 😭
@emptyvoid5272
@emptyvoid5272 20 күн бұрын
Oh hell nah we're all so tired already of space China
@zowie.nvermind
@zowie.nvermind 11 күн бұрын
​@@_babagrill Unfortunately they will, and we know it
@callmeandoru2627
@callmeandoru2627 Ай бұрын
Here’s a question. Should we evaluate character’s design just in a vacuum, or should we also take into account their lore. For example, Blades’s design looks a little bland but given that it’s Blade, it makes sense. Arlan’s design looks nice but really out of place given that he works on Herta’s space station. He looks more like someone from Belobog underworld.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
Arlan's design kinda gives that "bad kid" vibes, which somewhat fits his personality in my opinion. And yeah, Hoyoverse's character designs are very deeply detailed into the lore. You usually can tell a character's origin, element and some stuff about their background story and overall lore just by analysing the character design.
@Justapixie
@Justapixie Ай бұрын
Arlan works in security though so I feel like his design fits the theme of his job.
@hdmaad
@hdmaad Ай бұрын
Male chara actually have better design than female because it gives hints of the chara's function or personality. Blade's design is full of ancient chinese martial sword master references. From the way he hold his sword, to his shard sword itself, the pattern of his vest and the draconic pupils he inherit from Shuhu. But I guess everything is blank in the eyes of the blind.
@hang5797
@hang5797 Ай бұрын
i think you should always take the lore into account. character design matching the lore is one of the most important parts imo
@homozygous4063
@homozygous4063 Ай бұрын
character designs should give a read into the characters personality and background i think.. you should link lore with the design and see if the two are in unity.
@moondoor9031
@moondoor9031 Ай бұрын
The most unique female design in Honkai imo is Kafka and the male counterpart design is Gallagher.
@EternaMidnight
@EternaMidnight Ай бұрын
If Sparkle didnt have the same open shoulder and boob cup top as the Xianzhou characters it would have been easier to tell she's actually supposed to look Japanese... imo that kinda ruined the design and made her look like every other girl instead of a different culture.
@annie-chan9727
@annie-chan9727 Ай бұрын
I didn't even know there was a term for this lol, and thought I was the only one feels this way! When they announced we're going back to Xianzhou after Penacony I was so bummed, like why?? Can't we explore a new place before we go back there? And apparently the Xianzhou quest will span across 2 updates and we'll get more characters with the same design! I only returned for Penacony and now that we're done maybe I'll take another break from HSR
@girlfriend2287
@girlfriend2287 Ай бұрын
i also returned for penacony after quitting back in 1.2 ...its not helping my motivation to advance in the story at all
@charlottechen4499
@charlottechen4499 Ай бұрын
I think the reason hoyoverse doesn't release a new planet/region is because it would take to long to design it's easier to release 1 or 2 new areas of an already released planet every patch then have to create a new planet with a new aesthetic, story, mechanics and many areas every 4 patches. That's why they only release new planets every version so they don't have to rush the process and so they deliver a quality product.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
@@charlottechen4499 And that would also ruin the "new planet/nation in every X.0 patch" tradition.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
Well, the Xianzhou designs look similar because of Xianzhou cultural things and local fashion (Hoyo tend to be very deeply detailed about how they do character designs once you analyze them in small details), while Penacony had lots of people from various places around the universe.
@gh4939
@gh4939 29 күн бұрын
I want a new Belobog character. Justice for one of my favorite planets that I’m too sentimentally attached to and can’t move on from 🤧
@teeter8472
@teeter8472 Ай бұрын
I think servals design is meant to represent her 2 sides that being her researcher past and rockstar passions. The white side repeents the lab coat and more professional look that scientists and researchers wear. While the black side of her deisgn is meant to look like her rockstar punk look. It 100% looks super confusing without that knowledge. And this is just how i interpret her design!!!
@rinoakirova1548
@rinoakirova1548 Ай бұрын
I pray for HoYo to give us a skin for Sparkle wearing her red & black dress from the It's Showtime lightcone.
@ultravioletishere
@ultravioletishere Ай бұрын
i love her outfit in that lightcone!! it looks so cute
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
Our only hope are skins. I hate the price but Genshin skins have a lot of thought and effort put into them, we just need more.
@dennisisdoorknob899
@dennisisdoorknob899 Ай бұрын
The xianzhou in general is my least favorite "planet", cast of characters, and story by far. I am SO tiered of the luofu
@bluessyz
@bluessyz Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="82">1:22</a> “if Diluc didn’t have trauma” and his hair which is originally white is only red because of the blood stained on it from his planets war-inhabited people😭and that’s js a small portion of his lore
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
Wait... are you saying that Argenti never washed his hair since the war on his planet? lol
@bluessyz
@bluessyz Ай бұрын
@@tovarishchfeixiao game logic 😭
@tenta9876
@tenta9876 Ай бұрын
what I dislike the most is Sparkle's design, it's cohesive and pretty good, but if you took her design to a person who didn't know what a Masked fool was, aka someone who just did xianzhou or something, they would not be able to tell she wasn't from the xianzhou, just guanaifen kind of but different
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
The way my thoughts were very similar to this before her trailers released. But now Monodrama is probably my favorite trailer of all time from Hoyoverse.
@tenta9876
@tenta9876 Ай бұрын
@@noxauranyx yes omg I love her trailer, but what I really don't like is that there is literally no storytelling involved in her design, but maybe that's what sparkle wants because she doesn't want to give anything away, there's storytelling reasons for it but I think it would have been so much more interesting another way
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
Maybe you can't. But it's obvious that Xianzhou is more Chinese inspired, while Sparkle's clothing is very obviously inspired by Japanese kimono. It's just that you and maybe a very few others can't tell the difference because your eyes are not trained enough.
@tenta9876
@tenta9876 Ай бұрын
@@tovarishchfeixiao I wanted to talk about that actually, my main gripe was not the individual cultural aspects of the costume, but the silhouette and general cut of the cloth if you catch my drift, also as a chinese person myself I don't think HSR's outfits are really good representations of culture anyways, like tingyun to me is literally not super chinese inspired anyways, yukong, DHIL, it's fine, but yeah
@kibathefang6022
@kibathefang6022 Ай бұрын
I just think we're so saturated with Chinese designs. Most gacha games are from China and it's like mandatory they have China inspired region. But because you can only have so many Chinese designs, what happens is it's hard to make something that will stand out. Genshin, Tower of Fantasy, Star Rail, WuWa, all have Chinese inspired regions.
@feathersinthewind
@feathersinthewind Ай бұрын
Eh, I do think it's somewhat of an HSR specific issue. No one ever thought Liyue female characters (for example) were particularly similar looking, even though a lot of them are still chinese inspired. HSR just overused a specific silhouette imo, and they kinda need to change it up at this point if they want the complaints to stop. Chinese inspiration isn't the issue here, the boring silhouettes are.
@kibathefang6022
@kibathefang6022 Ай бұрын
@@feathersinthewind Good point. I suppose Genshin Liyue females do have distinct clothing styles.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
@@feathersinthewind What if they did it on purpose? Since in HSR we only seen a single ship of Xianzhou so far, which obviously will have clothing similar to each other, because of local fashion and culture, though other Xianzhou ships might be somewhat different but likely will have similarities amongst the alliance ships since they share their culture with each other. And Hoyo games tend to go very very deep in design details once you analyze them very thoroughly.
@Sky-rw5vq
@Sky-rw5vq Ай бұрын
They hardly tapped into Chinese fashion. They only use the same recent history dress types while there are many hanfu styles from different dynasties. Like I'm frustrated that they all use the Mandarin type collar when most traditional hanfu has y-shape overlapping collar. Maybe it's to distinguish from Japanese kimono because kimono borrowed that style? But man, it's just reinforcing people's stereotype of Chinese fashion while abandoning what were originally Chinese designs to be associated completely with japan, which is made worse by the fact that these games' Japanese characters all have those elements instead. If you look at past hanfu, especially Qin/Han era you will see that those styles were the ancestors of kimonos, but are no where found in Chinese (global gacha) games while always on Japanese characters. Maybe it's just the global-facing gacha games that are afraid to tread outside the stereotypical styles, there are internal-facing games and non-gacha games that are not like that. It's probably improving though, eg. some HI3 manga and stigmata art; Xiao with his demon mask (that people mistake for a Japanese thing when it has always been Chinese in origin); wuwa Jinzhou NPC wearing y-neck inner shirt.
@Da_Donke_Lord
@Da_Donke_Lord Ай бұрын
WE NEED SKINS
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Skins would be so cool!
@roarofgoomy
@roarofgoomy Ай бұрын
I NEED TOPAZ IN PANTS
@roboiago
@roboiago Ай бұрын
Xianzhou's feels like bootleg space Liyue. I will take Shenhe's OG outfit over any of the Xianzhou girls' any day of the week.
@TinkerbellJames422
@TinkerbellJames422 Ай бұрын
Haven’t seen anyone say this but I think Sam’s base form design is far better than the enhance. Yes the enhanced more resembles her molten knight title but Sam’s base form just screams intimidation. The kick looks so powerful and feels powerful just to do 3k on no break 😭. The move where she leaks up into the air could’ve been a very cool nuke if a different Sam ever gets released which probably won’t ever happen.
@niteyknight503
@niteyknight503 Ай бұрын
REAL Baseform Sam is everything you could want from a classic scifi mech soldier, really showing off the size, the metal, and the intricacies of the design while the enhanced form feels like a bit too much. Also extremely sad about the swords in combat instead of punches/kicks. It genuinely made Sam feel unique, like the mech itself was the weapon. Adding swords just makes combat feel less brutal and impactful.
@TinkerbellJames422
@TinkerbellJames422 Ай бұрын
@@niteyknight503 EXACTLY
@jang2386
@jang2386 Ай бұрын
@@niteyknight503ong
@ashrafhakim379
@ashrafhakim379 Ай бұрын
@@TinkerbellJames422 the fact they add ponytail for Sam enhance mode 💀
@TinkerbellJames422
@TinkerbellJames422 Ай бұрын
@@ashrafhakim379 it’s part of the knight aesthetic the enhance form is trying to be. Just search up knight’s helmet red hair you’ll get what I mean
@ahyes99
@ahyes99 Ай бұрын
Nahhh we need more races and body shapes. It's getting boring if all we get is pretty man or woman. All those big universe and all we get is humanoid characters?
@sprixiedust
@sprixiedust Ай бұрын
But wouldn’t it be a bit difficult or time consuming to make different animations for nonhuman characters besides they wouldn’t sell as much as humanoids do which is a shame
@niteyknight503
@niteyknight503 Ай бұрын
​@@sprixiedust maybe but this is hoyo we're talking about. They can afford it lol
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
@@niteyknight503 They have no idea how many billions Hoyo makes. Can't we get more skins?? Fans already make amazing designs cmon
@firelight3806
@firelight3806 23 күн бұрын
I’ll preface this by saying that I am in complete support of unique designs, don’t get me wrong but there are a lot of factors that influence design subliminally. It doesn’t fit within their character design pipeline. The whole point of a pipeline is to streamline a process seamlessly and using their character physics engine and animation skeletons as much as possible. Non-humanoid animation is the furthest thing from streamlined. Just look at how unique Something Unto Death’s movement is and just think about how complex the skeleton rig is and all the potential clipping issues the design team had to wrangle with. These issues don’t easily get fixed by throwing money at it. The small lag in managing this much stuff at the same time can build up and delay other projects.
@zowie.nvermind
@zowie.nvermind 11 күн бұрын
​@@niteyknight503 or don't, that make millions while using the same character model and design. And if it's working for them, why would they change?
@sanguinesakura
@sanguinesakura Ай бұрын
i would give anything for a character that wears a hanfu or qipao on the xianzhou. tingyun and ruan mei would have been the prime characters for it too. also if they would include any different skin colors that would help some, but even then the same face syndrome for the female chars is crazy
@EternaMidnight
@EternaMidnight Ай бұрын
I will say though even though Ruan Mei's design suffers from the same problems, if you look closely she has little DNA helix shaped accessories, so that's a nice touch pointing towards how she's obsessed with researching life and biology
@EggoBeggo__
@EggoBeggo__ Ай бұрын
All the guys: long pants All the girls: revealing clothing
@mistymarauder
@mistymarauder Ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for a video like this. Like the top comment says, it’s mostly just the Xianzhou ladies’ outfits that are really off putting (including others, obviously, like Sparkle’s) Firefly’s design pleasantly surprised me with the lack of detached sleeves, thigh strap, half-covered top, etc.
@noxauranyx
@noxauranyx Ай бұрын
Firefly's design is so good and it was refreshing considering the context of the designs we've received so far! I hope I was able to deliver with this video and my silly opinions haha
@flyingorange2482
@flyingorange2482 Ай бұрын
Aren't her sleeves detached under her cape?
@mistymarauder
@mistymarauder Ай бұрын
@@flyingorange2482just realized. guess the design wasn’t as revolutionary as I thought it was 😭 (but I still prefer it over most of the xianzhou designs)
@kenzor4953
@kenzor4953 Ай бұрын
@@mistymarauder lol if they had ppl like u designin female chars, the game would never been anythin noteworthy, the genre wouldnt even exist. you will always live in the shadow of the value placed on the sexualized female form
@NMSITD
@NMSITD Ай бұрын
@@kenzor4953 goon
@Lockehart1289
@Lockehart1289 Ай бұрын
Guinaifen's real name is Gwenevere I believe. She got her Xianzhou name from Sushang. I believe she was a refugee
@andysabur4966
@andysabur4966 Ай бұрын
i really dislike the defense of "duh they come from the same region ofc they dress similarly" cuz like...do people think same region = same clothes?? in my area sure some fashion sense might be similar, but your clothes isnt just determined by where you live. A livestreamer, a cop, a politician, a strategist, a doctor will dress differently in their day to day. Money separates the access you have to stuff. heck even subcultures (even ones by internet) affects your style. gui isnt even a native right? she moved to luofu and assimilated that easy in terms of fashion? nothing about her stands out as an immigrant. an outsider becoming a streamer and she dresses like a native
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
Yeah exactly, also there's so many different Chinese cultures to pull inspiration from?? They did this with Yunli which is a step in the right direction.
@donewastingtime7939
@donewastingtime7939 Ай бұрын
My biggest issue with HSR is that its designs keep making me forget that this was meant to be supposed space fantasy game. HI3 looks way more like what one would expect out of "space fantasy" game than HSR. If you piled up pictures of all Xianzhou characters (upcoming ones too), perhaps even added characters like Robin, Argenti, Firefly (without Sam form), etc. and let someone who knows jack about HSR to guess in what time period/setting the game would take place... I'm putting my hand on fire that barely anyone would think of this being a futuristic setting, set in space. This wouldn't be a problem, if not for a fact that designs like these are in majority compared to, idk, actually fitting game designs like SW, Screwllum or Topaz? The fact that we are going back to Xianzhou brings me least joy precisely because Xianzhou is most guilty of what I'm talking about. Just look at upcoming characters and how they look. Jiaoqui and Lingsha being the worst abominations when it comes to those. One looks like NPC and the other looks like badly AI generated Sparkle if you asked AI to put Sparkle in Xianzhou clothing.
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
In HSR they obviously give an emphasis for reflecting the lore, and the planet's culture/fashion in the designs. Just like how you wouldn't walk around in astronaut suit on Earth even if it was in an era of Galactic tourism.
@Mavuika_Gyaru
@Mavuika_Gyaru Ай бұрын
It really does suck how similar most of the girls look, especially when they're side-by-side in a cutscene
@antivenom68
@antivenom68 Ай бұрын
Feixiao stepping out of that design zone Shes so badass
@hdmaad
@hdmaad Ай бұрын
She's different, but pretty dispointing for a general. Good design actually gives you hints of the chara's function or personality. If you show her to a random person who doesn't play the game, there is no way they'd guess she's a general. A pirate at best. A fancy stripper at worst
@antivenom68
@antivenom68 Ай бұрын
@@hdmaad she is called the "lazy/lacking general" as she calls herself It rings some bells that she is very much carefree so she isnt following the usual standard and is also mixed blood from the borisins with moon rage But i know what you mean lol
@connorradcliffe1769
@connorradcliffe1769 Ай бұрын
​@@hdmaad I do partly agree, having her wear actual pants instead of booty shorts would have improved the design to near perfection. the over use of long hair, only exposed dresses and need to expose the legs for female characters is getting really old, really fast. hurts when the 10 Stonehearts Trailer actually showed that Jade and Topaz COULD wear less exposed outfits
@krys9463
@krys9463 Ай бұрын
I'm playing through the new story on the Xianzhou and I just met Linsha, I think thats her name. Whoever designed her and almost every other female character on this space ship, needs to stop. I would have liked her design better if some of the elements weren't so common, but it just makes me appreciate Feixaoi and Yunli or when they introduce a male character.
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
Yunli had a lot of thought put into her design. I wish the male characters weren't ALL wearing pants come on now
@xianlotus
@xianlotus Ай бұрын
i’m a massive design dweeb and the large majority of the designs in my opinion are genuinely amazing; some personal favourites are argenti, huohuo, aventurine, bailu and boothill. one that sincerely pisses me off and has for time now is ruan mei. she’s one of my favourite characters lore and story wise but oh my lord they could’ve done SO much more with her design. it was borderline irritating to look at her because she’s such a brilliant and unique character (i mean come on??? she’s trying to be a god???) and the only reason people pay attention to her is because “haha boobs” lmao don’t even get me started on all the xianzhou designs; boring, repetitive, overdone. so much you can make and create and take inspiration from in terms of chinese culture and it’s just the same lingeriefied qipao, with smidgen of a hanfu/or longish sleeves. nothing remotely interesting. i’m full on blaming jingliu for this because after her release any character from the xianzhou ended up looking like repeats.
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
I love Jingliu but I agree with you. Ruan Mei's outfit needed to be more scientific.
@CosmicWin
@CosmicWin Ай бұрын
Kafka GENUINELY reminds me of Attack on Titan.
@glukaszz
@glukaszz Ай бұрын
idk why I never noticed acherons boots being different size and now it annoys me
@MyssticalCanvas
@MyssticalCanvas Ай бұрын
Hi hello, I need to point out some things for additional info for the characters whose lore I do know "why doesn't Clara wear shoes" she addresses it in one of her texts, they make her twist her ankles easily because she's not used to wearing them. Do I think it's a good explanation? Sure. Do I think it's a good execution? Nah. At least cover her legs some more to have an "oh she compensates by wearing this thing" Guinaifen's design looks like Xianzhou fashion for the same reason she uses the name Guinaifen and not her birth name, Guinevere: Adapting to the culture of the place she moved to! Seele's design is a half/half thing, one side representing her tougher persona and the other representing the butterflies she associates with Serval's design is also a half/half thing, one side representing her attachment and love for rock'n'roll while the other side represents her past as a scientist, which she also loves and still treasures
@MyssticalCanvas
@MyssticalCanvas Ай бұрын
I would also like to add my own little rant
@NovaOrNeo
@NovaOrNeo Ай бұрын
One of the things that can make characters feel samey is the base model is the same for a set of characters, like the height. If they made the heights a little more different it would help the designs a lot
@SheetsInc
@SheetsInc Ай бұрын
I think black Swan is the character wearing the most belts. I'd love to hear your thought on the new outfits we saw for the 10 stonehearts in the myriad celestia trailer.
@Smitybible
@Smitybible Ай бұрын
ruan meis not my fav design but she has several DNA helix motifs pretty subtly woven into her design
@TheDanks
@TheDanks Ай бұрын
We need Ruan Mei in a Space Station uniform!
@youremotionalsupport194
@youremotionalsupport194 Ай бұрын
Stellaron Hunters so far is my favourite design.
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
Silver Wolf is the best version of Bronya imo
@gachagaming495
@gachagaming495 Ай бұрын
I don’t really have a issue with it looking similar it’s just the style the characters from the planet they wear
@linhmy7673
@linhmy7673 Ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="325">5:25</a> ..yes ..finally ..someone like og dan more than horn dan ..i would love love horn dan design more if he still has the coat
@John-ii6he
@John-ii6he Ай бұрын
when it comes a large of hoyo games they often use the same models to save on time. However there is a limit to when this eff just meshes into the "same face syndrome."
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
Skirk from Genshin and Jingliu from HSR. Compare. Oh may got
@gustavo555tani
@gustavo555tani Ай бұрын
As a professional gold digger for the marketing division, topaz outfits makes total sense, who would deny a loan from her hue
@hdmaad
@hdmaad Ай бұрын
She's not a gold digger but a debt collector. One is a joke, the other is a menace. And Topaz's design is anything but menacing.
@deductionsdiary105
@deductionsdiary105 Ай бұрын
You'd think that having a turn-based game combat system would let them have more creativity with character designs, but so far it just feels like they're focusing on the attacks itself than the variety of characters designs
@lukepattinson3108
@lukepattinson3108 Ай бұрын
I feel this just sums up Hoyoverse lol. Bland and uninspired. Unwilling to take risks. Half their character models are the same height ffs.
@mao4434
@mao4434 Ай бұрын
Yea, even zzz that started with at least some interesting variety, some the post release characters are just going back to bland girl designs
@HystericalDark
@HystericalDark Ай бұрын
I wish they would at least have different skin tones
@Tirana-qg1ft
@Tirana-qg1ft 28 күн бұрын
@@HystericalDark That would be so much more interesting too
@sarasaif-or7dl
@sarasaif-or7dl Ай бұрын
i think that one side of serval's design is supposed to look like the silvermane guard uniform from one side and a rockstar fit from the other!!!
@avej99
@avej99 Ай бұрын
You would think since china is their home country they would go super hard on the designs for the Xianzhou but nope its just YOU GET A XIPAO, YOU GET A XIPAO, EVERYBODY GETS A XIPAO
@rafaela00002
@rafaela00002 Ай бұрын
personally, i like that the luofu designs are similar, gives me a sense that there's a style that is fashionable there and makes it feel more like a real place, but i understand why it'd bother other people edit: fixed a typo
@mariaantonia-op8qc
@mariaantonia-op8qc Ай бұрын
I like the idea, but I feel they could have done that while still giving the designs more variety, yknow? They don't just look like they come from the same place they look like they just came out of the same clothing store... which is also the only one on the whole planet and only sells one type of clothing.
@rafaela00002
@rafaela00002 Ай бұрын
@@mariaantonia-op8qc i see what you mean, specially when sparkle also has a similar design to the luofu characters but she isn't from there. i hope they do something different with the new characters who are from the other ships
@tovarishchfeixiao
@tovarishchfeixiao Ай бұрын
@@rafaela00002 Well, sparkle has a design that inspired by Japanese Kimono. And there was multiple versions of Chinese historical clothing in real life, which is not impossible that there was at least one era when it somewhat looked similar to their neighbours, Just like how japanese Kimono and Korean Hanbok looks similar for people whose eyes are not trained enough.
@asafesseidonsapphire
@asafesseidonsapphire Ай бұрын
​@@tovarishchfeixiao I mean the reason why people think Sparkle's design is similar to the Xianzhou ones is due to some of Hoyoverse choices, they made her Yukata really small, like normally when people shorten a characters Yukata they add shorts to give the yukata some focus, but overall just lenghtning the sides of the yukata might be enough, if they flow well, the yukata doesn't cover her shoulders, if it went till her shoulders and stopped more or less where a t-shirt would've stopped, you could easily differentiate her from the Xianzhou females, in a quick glance.
@firelight3806
@firelight3806 23 күн бұрын
That’s not an excuse. Just look at the designs of their sister game Genshin’s Chinese inspired nation of Liyue. All the characters have incredibly unique designs that all evoke a Chinese vibe. HSR is simply not on par with GI’s design team.
@MurakamiTenshi
@MurakamiTenshi Ай бұрын
Almost every girl has a thigh ribbon or bracelet. It's very odd to see
@Carlisho
@Carlisho Ай бұрын
Every single character has the twin tail design on their backs, literally. Either the hair or a piece of clothing but they all have 2 symmetrical things hanging off. I have no idea whats up with that tbh
@embe_r
@embe_r Ай бұрын
they usually end up splitting the hair like that so the back of design is visible. I mean, you’re going to be staring at the character’s back most of the time while playing, so it’s gotta look interesting lol
@littleartemis
@littleartemis 22 күн бұрын
We first meet Sampo in Belobog (he's actually the first person we meet after getting off the train, and he was hiding in a snow bank from Gepard). It's never explained how he's immune to the cold, my theory it's Aha's influence or something from his home planet. And the hip windows are part of the appeal.
@Starry._El.
@Starry._El. Ай бұрын
Clara doesnt wear shoes becuase she hates how they feel ‼️‼️
@twinkletuinkuru
@twinkletuinkuru Ай бұрын
Xianzhou designs are either the same outfit or the same colour palette, even the new ones, with some exceptions Plus all male characters since Danheng IL have this weird chest slit and it kinda makes them look a bit similar to eachother
@spectralspooky
@spectralspooky Ай бұрын
The other female designs are amazing, its just the same xianzhou outfit over and over...
@jucksun3747
@jucksun3747 Ай бұрын
I wish we got more space station designs, like silver wolf asta, etc
@truskawkapoziomka6325
@truskawkapoziomka6325 Ай бұрын
Pretty fun fact: Vagrants from Belobog tried many times to give clara shoes, but she finds it really hard to move in them and if i remember correctly, she twisted her ankle once. So Clara just decided to not wear shoes
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