Arrogance of Ignorance: The Decline of Classical Education & Rise of Wokeness | HISPBC Ch.2 (Hanson)

[@livetohash6152]

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

[@sergioreyes298]

We are fortunate to have a man of the intellectual breadth as well as the integrity of Victor Davis Hanson in our discourse.

[@kevinjenner9502]

The Classicist who sees Donald Trump as a tragic hero.

[@justicewokeisutterbs8641]

​@@kevinjenner9502 A man who is infinitely smarter than you.

[@TeaParty1776]

The Greeks knew that democracy causes tyranny. Trump is clearly a mindless powerluster. Yet Hanson likes Trump

[@unkonkrable]

Give credit where credit is due. If folks can't acknowledge that (respect Prof. Davis, Pres. Trump), only discredit, then where does that leave you, your credibility...Bankrupt?

[@zeenuf00]

​@@kevinjenner9502derp tds

[@garcia83viz]

"It's not what you don't know that will hurt you. It's what you do know that's not true. " -Albert E.

[@leonorfraga68]

If only every student in America would watch this!! Very necessary video! Thank you!

[@GlassEyedDetectives]

Victor Hanson is one my intellectual mentors, thank you for these pieces. With regard to the teaching of the Classics - to study the Classics is ultimately a study of Power...how it is used and how it is abused. It's a damming shame that the access to this knowledge is possibly being denied to future students and it is imperative people generally take the time to seek out and familiarize themselves with them. I feel that the attack on the Classics is an attack on true empowerment and enlightenment, and of course only serves those who want an unquestioning, pliable pool of 'human resource', and ultimately abused by Power.

[@carlT1986]

May God bless VDH and his family and all of the USA

[@kimihuff7645]

Victor Davis Hanson may be the greatest man in this country.

[@vijay-1]

Kudos to victor Hanson for standing bravely against dei mania

[@elsenored562]

6:25 Hanson: "If a person takes Greek and Latin and they understand the grammar and the syntax and the composition, they are innately better writers of English."

[@threethrushes]

The utility of learning Latin, in particular, as a native English-language speaker, is three-fold: - a vast number of English words have Latin roots; - Latin was the lingua franca of the civilised world for centuries; - it gives us an insight into Roman history and culture. Understanding the grammar of any foreign language will make one more skilled in one's mother tongue.

[@stephenarnold3015]

Innately? That's a shocking solecism for a classicist. It reminds me of the Clown in a Winter's Tale: Clown: ...try whether I am not now a gentleman born. Autolycus. I know you are now, sir, a gentleman born. Clown. Ay, and have been so any time these four hours.

[@raymondfrye5017]

​@@stephenarnold3015 Exactly, what point are you trying to make here, besides the quote from the classic?

[@abick8725]

@@raymondfrye5017I was thinking the same thing…lol.

[@blueskymut]

Why don’t men like this run for president?

[@craigericanderson]

To illustrate the global pervasiveness of wokeness, my wife´s son, attending a high school in Peru, was given a task by his math teacher, to write do a paper related to the statistics of people in Peru who were "racist."

[@abick8725]

Thanks for sharing this. It doesn’t necessarily surprise me, but at the same time is eye-opening…

[@donnied9432]

The reason he has to explain it , is the whole point of it. Never been indoctrinated , just a working brain.

[@chrisfarrell9894]

In 1980 I quit prep. school, Brooks in North Andover, Mass. My two years of study of Koine Greek and Latin profoundly affected my religio-political worldview. After I had left school, some months later I was in the library in Lowell, Mass. and they were having a Book Sale. I found half-dozen or more books in various Greek dialects and bought them for--and I'm guessing--a quarter or a dime or a buck--I don't remember how much, and drove with my girlfriend out to Brooks and brought them to Mr. Poirot. It never occurred to me then but looking back it is clear that the library was being purged of Western Judeo-Christian culture. Have you ever noticed that libraries are always staffed by Fascist liberals who are frequently homosexual or lesbian? You have to give the Fascists credit for sticking with a plan diligently. They've moved into Academia and the Judicial System, Hollywood and other Entertainment Industries purposefully.

[@johnz8843]

I agree with what Prof. Hanson has to say about the value of the classics. But the classics were in deep trouble for a generation before the far left took over the university. The death knell for the classics was the emphasis on career education as it infiltrated most all academic environments. There was no way in the 70s and 80s many university students would take any interest in classical languages as expected earlier in the 20th century. Business, sociology, psychology were the programs of choice. Further classical languages were seen as time consuming obstacles for the intense study of the sciences. "Wokeism" simply followed trends all well in place.

[@PTHastings]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 00:10 *📜 American culture under assault* - Discusses ten aspects of American life under attack, including free expression, justice system weaponization, and media bias fusion. 01:02 *🎓 Decline of universities* - Victor Davis Hanson reflects on the transformation of universities from centers of open inquiry to ideological conformity. 03:26 *🏛️ Attack on Classics* - Explores the efforts to dismantle the teaching of Classics in academia, highlighting ideological motivations and historical context. 06:05 *📚 Value of Classical education* - Emphasizes the enduring practical benefits of studying Greek and Latin for language skills and analytical thinking. 09:20 *🌍 Global implications of wokeism* - Examines the global impact of woke ideology on culture and education, advocating for a balanced approach to historical understanding. 17:23 *⏰ Sustainability of wokeism* - Discusses the sustainability of woke ideology in society, predicting potential repercussions for meritocracy and societal cohesion. 20:04 *🎤 The Shift Towards Class Over Race* - The discussion highlights a cultural shift emphasizing class over race in societal narratives. - Pop culture phenomena like Oliver Young's song "Rich Men North of Richmond" reflect a rejection of race-focused narratives. 20:32 *🎓 Campus Disruptions at Stanford* - Stanford University's incident involving a federal judge illustrates campus disruptions and the suppression of free speech. - The episode sparked significant backlash, signaling growing discontent with campus activism and its tactics. 20:56 *📚 Impact of Woke Ideology on Language* - The emergence of restrictive vocabulary guidelines at Stanford, such as banning words like "immigrant" and "patriotic," exemplifies the influence of woke ideology on language. - This enforcement mirrors historical censorship patterns during revolutionary phases, drawing parallels to the Jacobin era of the French Revolution. 21:22 *🔄 Potential for Backlash Against Wokeness* - Concerns about the escalation of woke culture prompting a backlash akin to historical periods of radicalism, such as the Reign of Terror. - Calls for moderation in response to the current cultural climate to avoid more extreme reactions. Made with HARPA AI

[@stallonelockley2718]

We need the full version ASAP

[@hands-on-m8c]

I love the intelligent, rational conversation, thank you

[@PaulArthurTV]

I was taught HOW to think, not WHAT to think.

[@orvos1459]

I’m planning to someday start a garden village centered around a traditional education system in the U.S. It’ll be free from LGBT, feminism, woke ideology, multiculturalism, leftism, secularism, inorganic food, GMOs, nihilism, garbage, etc. I hope i can teach math, physics, chemistry, biology, Greek, Latin, French, history, literature, religion & philosophy, moral philosophy, and physical education.

[@merewynyard5813]

With A I??

[@thegeneralist7527]

Free markets rely on the free expression of ideas, the free exchange of labor and capital, and free access to markets. All the wealth and prosperity we observe in the world is a result of freedom of people to create and consume goods, services and ideas. Free competition in the marketplace ensures only the best goods, services and ideas are retained in the future while improvement is continuous. Wokeness seeks to level the playing field, so that goods, services and ideas that would otherwise be eliminated are retained, and the result is a decrease in the prosperity that would otherwise be attained. The utopia wokeness seeks to attain is prevented by the restrictions placed on those segments of the population which have the most to contribute to the improvement of society. Not only is the morally wrong, but it is economic madness.

[@TeaParty1776]

Communism is an ideal, destructive, but an ideal, Wokeness is nihilist, destruction for the sake of destruction. They just want to destroy the West.

[@timsmith3377]

политрук (Political Commissars of the Soviet Union) and DEI positions in government and corporations are pretty much the same animal.

[@amariner5]

Doctor Hanson, Thank you for your defense of St. Junipero Serra, Founder of California. amariner5

[@vincecollura4004]

anti-woke liberal here but I can't get enough of VDH. We're gonna take back this country left right and center 🤝

[@TeaParty1776]

> We're gonna take back this country left right and center. ?

[@neilreynolds3858]

But we're "unburdened by what has been" by memory holing the classics. Isn't that wonderful?

[@elinope4745]

Their ignorance (lack of knowledge because of inexperience) is not equal to my knowledge. Too many experts are required to misunderstand their subject of expertise.

[@collinpandorf780]

🎉 yeah it's like everyone went back to the 1200s without the Mongols and ended up retarded 🎉 😮

[@codinghusky5196]

Ignorance is not lack of knowledge due to inexperience. The whole point of schooling is to unmarry knowledge from experience. That's HOW we manage to learn things passed down through thousands of years of human experience in 10-20 years of schooling.

[@peredavi]

Another awesome discussion. I have something to put in my earphones while doing yard work!

[@gretchenboyle481]

Thank you. Thank you very much

[@LorenzoMelchionda-lp2cu]

very profound and very tragic, let's hope it will change

[@ericswain4177]

We have all these great Thinkers and Armchair Philosophers but very few give workable real-world solutions and even fewer that actually do anything effective about it. Let us look at what is right with the world and people and foster and push those things and see what happens.

[@eddiewouldgo6328]

VDH is the smartest man alive!!!

[@melvincunningham5660]

The late David McCullough said that teaching Latin helps students with their writing.

[@Petra2013able]

Intellectual humility is integral to human wisdom isn't it ?

[@shadetreemechanicracing22]

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

[@rogeralsop3479]

Victor Davis Hanson hombre.

[@bluorion4360]

This is what Yuri Bezmenov was taking about.

[@thinkingoutloud7425]

Facts not feelings.

[@TeaParty1776]

Facts as known by the mind.

[@unkonkrable]

@thinkingoutloud7425 - As evolution is designed to be; rather, assign ~75% emphasizing facts, the rest, feeling, to taper things off. @TeaParty1776 - Deep thought proffered. Imagine if all the facts, self-evident truths (historically, biblically, in terms of the cosmos, meaning of life) lost to time - and discovered, rolled out in time - resulting in heavy ponderings, specious speculation, debates (scientists have to rethink, reconsider theories all the time); and merely if we poor subjects had them to place and piece this puzzle called life complete; or avail slightly "easier" or more so understanding than what is mainstream accepted? But, then again, what fun would life be, right? Of which I believe to be - the mysteries thereof - on purpose, preordained; but not in any way, no way, in disagreement with the this topic of arrogance and ignorance..a direct correlation as it relates to "wokeness" and the very enorganic or inorganic inherently absurb nature of the business.

[@neildaly2635]

Paraphrase from English Fathers and Sons by Ivan Turgenev: “We studied hard not to be thought a fool, now they say everything in the world is rubbish and the trick is done.”

[@grzegorzVIIwielki]

Przed Wami bardzo przykre widoki na horyzoncie. Szkoda, że to się odbije czkawką całemu cywilizowanemu światu!

[@ronaldmcdonald3965]

Pet Peeve: They don't understand how Nation States evolved, and why. Tribes, Greeks, Feudalism, similar developments in China/India. It is amazing how little we know nowadays.

[@violette4841]

I had a class of American Pacific Islanders I was supervising. It was a US elementary school. They liked my accent and asked where I came from. I told them I came from an island, and I started comparing my island to the ones their parents came from. They loved it. And I showed them a map. My island was the UK. I told them about how we mined and built ships and came over to see them. They were shocked that we didn't grow oranges or grow tea or sugar and we were on the hunt for them. I told them about the weather and where our different islands were situated. Their teacher told me to teach them from her book which was utterly boring. I did what I was told, and the kids cried. What a witch that woman is. Never went back to the school. Same when I read about the old animal folk tales and the Greek myths. I was seen as a colonialist from the old school. Get your own home library for your family and learn on your own. Lots of old books for sale and they are classics and about history.

[@huntersmillie00]

I'd like to see a debate between VDH and Bill Ayers.

[@jeanettenorman7052]

I find my current world so disturbing

[@user-bt8vn3dj6o]

The D.O.D. is getting ready to review the Congressional Medal of Honors awarded to the soldiers at Wounded Knee, to see if the soliders deserve the award. I am betting Secretary of Defense Austin will ensure the medals are taken from these soldiers.

[@DevineTV]

"Ignore . . . ance." - Haiti

[@iguanaamphibioustruck7352]

"We never knew that" So much has happened and so much has changed. I am an engineer and inventor. And, I am an endangered species. The lawyers, Accountants and computer hacks and gamers have taken over our society. I have collected over 300 credit hours of formal education and I have worked for twelve corporations and taken their company training programs in; management,hydrausics, bearings and power transmission. I am not looking for wealth, I am looking to make things better because I was here. My competition is computer software which coded and programmed by people who have no experience in life, living and history. So, Victor, how are we going to change it. Certainly, we have Trump, but, can he survive? Iguana Dave. Ps. GET SMART, GET TRUMP.

[@simonboland]

Who is the person mentioned at 4:25? Is it Dan-el Padilla Peralta?

[@amariner5]

I think so. Bonkers.

[@johnvannewhouse]

Wow! That was GREAT.....

[@gretchenboyle481]

I would love to hear a couple depart of his respond to him. Could another person articulate their side with as much intelligence and gentleness? I would love to hear it.

[@dosesandmimoses]

Interesting. From my recollection, Classics majors were consistently the highest LSAT scorers. Maybe those metrics have changed or I may be incorrect in my recollection.

[@joelds1751]

He stole my words. I always refer to the Democrats as arrogant and ignorant, but it's easy to see for yourself. And sadly, the current situation we find ourselves in here and abroad, all easily preventable in November 2020.

[@TeaParty1776]

Agreed but Trumps mindlessness is one step from insanity. We need individual rights.

[@DrPhilby]

R. Sunak was nothing without his rich father in law

[@John-c3u9o]

The Hoover Institute uses the same PR technique as those late night infomercials staged as news shows or all the "native advertising" in newspapers. They set up a whole interview stage with interviewer and opposing chairs and a series of questions as if this was some kind of journalism. But they both literally work for the same conservative think tank.

[@leahben-israel2380]

Maybe so but it is content that matters. Ignore the background if you find it distracting and concentrate on what is being said. Then decide your stance on it.

[@solutions553]

We teeter on the edge between lights, running water, sewer systems, plentiful food ,..or barefeet , grass huts, starvation, desease and death....the collapse will be sudden and swift and violent..there you have it...

[@amariner5]

Not everyone sees that. To them, the world is full of friends you haven't met. They don't know how to start a generator, let alone fix one.

[@marciawalls]

With such an intellectual & educated body; why is sprawl something a country wants stopped? Sprawl expands culture and ideals, does it not?

[@stehes6531]

Where is chapter one?

[@Namelbmert]

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[@MichaelM-q2q]

Why would people write books about living without electricity and the phone or computers. Off grid, so to speak. They want that to be illegal to live off the grid.. 18:18 18:21

[@CSGATI]

We are now being raised to fail.

[@shayne881]

Post COVID crisis it seems like society suddenly woke up.to find itself wok😮

[@danl6213]

here's a comment.......why are they continuously changing KZbin's look/layout?! Leave it with the classic setup,... haven't u guys learned anything from Coca Cola back in the day?! New Coke?... it sucked! That being said, i agree with everything Victor David Hanson says

[@tomlauritzen9522]

The back lash should be great, enough is enough........ take America back by all means available...

[@jameswilkinson138]

"If A person takes Greek, THEY. . ."-- isn't one of the points of learning foreign languages to learn the agreement in number of subject and verb? Isn't this sort of misuse of pronouns one of the key 'accomplishments' of the postmodernism Hanson decries?

[@MaximusPeperkamp]

Of course, VDH in his own way - like B. F. Skinner - is also trying in vain to have Embodied Language (EL).

[@kathyraygoza3299]

Dr. Hanson, I'm of Hispanic background graduate of Fresno State. Nothing of note as I was in my So I have to be twice as good to be equal. I wasn't going to play that game, I came from an ethnic group that didn't believe girls getting educated. What I found so heart breaking is that they may know the popular entertainers of the day are but can't feed souls when needed by thinking no matter how bad things are remember Leonidas and a general fromm WW ll. If you don't surrender we will darken the skies with our arrows and Leonidas replyed. . .Good then we will fight in the shade. And an American General who was told to surrender replyed . . NUTS. Often times I thought youe were an elitest and discovered I was also because I was blessed by parents and teachers who valued reading and thinking and passed it on to mee and hope it was passed on to some of my students. You would be surprised th know we had a rarities in little old Hanford,Ca. Maybe someday I'll ite how Leila Lisle taught third graders t . . .United we stand. Divided we fall. Where are those teachers today. Teachers who can convince students that all history is important. Good or bad. Let me give you another hint on why Hitler shouldn't be forgotten but remembered for what should not be allowed again. When Putin let it be known he was invading the Ukraine it immediately brought back memories of Litist. You kno the famous saying . . Those who don't study history are bound to repeat it. Dr. Hansen you are a paradox to me . Your views of drumph make me wonder about that view Listening to this presentation makes me realize how often we may think the same. PS. Despite tthe side he defended both my Father and I still admire Bobby Lee. He knew what he was losing when he became a confederate.

[@kathyraygoza3299]

Sorry for my misspellings it's just that the essence was more important than the messiness in the spelling.

[@suzannebruner2922]

So depressing because it’s true

[@michaelandrewsalomonenewje4107]

It’s Junìpero Serra

[@kennethcfogarty]

Did C.S. Lewis get his knuckles caught in the door ?

[@other-phone]

Shut up and listen

[@craigenputtock]

The Polity of Beasts. --Everything American politics has become.

[@GenX-Memories]

God Bless Western Civilization

[@DrPhilby]

Stalin had his faults. so did Hitler...I just follow your logic

[@sgnt9337]

Get that guy a hearing aid

[@moanilehuajansson3382]

ALL SOCIAL PROGRAMMING

[@pds2621]

He is not smart audience, he is anti Sunak.

[@Mrbobinge]

Phew. VDH on FIRE (acronym, look this one up).

[@daisuke6072]

O tempora, o mores

[@jerrybell1766]

Your same old Trickle Down Intelligence?😂😂

[@pauldailey4477]

Nothing but the usual suspects.

[@rrickarr]

Has Hansen ever considered how we can have classical education if we are having books banned from libraries. The classics have an awful lot of controversial subjects that extremists don´t like? How do we have classical education if Betty DeVorrs attempted to destroy public schools? I know this angry man wants to blame everything on wokeness but he needs to look at his GOP cronies. Mr. Hanson, please tell us in what way the GOP agenda supports anything laid out in Plato´s Republic!

[@robertleebishop]

I totally agree! I so wish that my High School would have had “Juggs” and “Barely Legal “ but those right wing zealots kept it out.

[@robertleebishop]

“Angry Man “

[@rosesoulis1840]

The LEFT CENSORS....NOT THE GOP

[@ГалинаВдовенко-ж7п]

Интеллектуал intellectual no question !!! 😊I love him a grate deal, but as usual for utsider regarding RUSSIA history and WW2 war Великая Отечественная Война когда вся Европа , Япония и Америка с Труменом который сказал что пусть немцы с русскими побольше поубивают и Америке это выгодно и только на раздачу а конце войны открыли 2-й фронт в 1944 !!!!! вступили ждали на какую сторону прыгнуть где выгодно на сторону Гитлера или не на сторону Сталина зная фултонскую речь Черчилля и его план собрать SS и фашистов остатки разбитой Русскими гитлеровской армии и пойти уже в то же год с остатками фашистов вместе с британскими и американскими войсками и наметил десятки главных российских 😮😢городов для атомной бомбардировки. Так вот они , т.е США Британия с сожалением что победили РУССКИЕ во главе хочешь не хочешь нравится не нравится во главе со Сталиным прыгнули на его сторону , не с ним а с целью поживиться разграбить оккупировать Европу как до сох пор 2024 год Германию и главное главное о ужас англосаксы, чтобы русские как Победители не сказали , что они победители. Прошло 80 лет и вот сейчас любой каждый с промытыми мозгами школьник в США и Европе , Японии скажет что WW2 ,выиграли американцы и воевали они против Сталина и России кто в худшем случае , а лучшем , что США только одни воевали против Гитлера и только они США и победили , смех и грех комедия Учесть что США торговали снабжали Гитлера до 1944 года и Россия потеряла около 30 Миллионов солдат и гражданского населения и разрушенную страну на 50% , США обогатились поднялась экономика на войне особенно после 1929 great depression и за последний ww2 год войны потеряли около 300 тыс по сравнению с потерями и усилиями русских это математическая погрешность !!!! Ещё учесть что несколько раз когда они вступили в войну просили Сталина помочь так как воевать не могли. Бомбить Дрезден как преступление перед человеческой культурой и цивилизацией , это пожалуйста , с гражданскими и мирным населением где нет войск сверху бомбить кто" геройство " США страна торгашей как правильно абсолютный подонок преступник Черчилль сказал про США. . А вот пассаж очень умного Victor про то что Россия под руководством Сталина почти !!!!! Смех проиграла войну из за того там были политработники с идеологией и он их убрал и тогда начали выигрывать войну и победили . Это же просто непростительно такому умному такие вещи произносить . Только на идеологии на духе и победили !!! А на чем ещё вся Европа с Японией а 100 раз больше ресурсов по всем фронтам ...сами же знаете подневольные рабы не работают и не воюют на победу и эффективно . Значит дух значит идеология ...как боятся слова идеология . Да в каждом подразделении всю войну. И особенно когда побеждали , а не отступали был ПОЛИТРАБОТНК, не за деньги же русские воевали как американцы , а представьте себе за идею за веру и идеологию По идеологии русские победили гебельскую пропаганду , это показано историческими исследованиями именно духом и победили . А если почитаете выступления Сталина в первые годы войны про то как невозможно Германии выиграть Россию вы удивитесь этой уверенности 100% даже с юмором , а русские отступали , а ни на минуту не сомневались в Победе . Даже есть документ , что отвечали встретятся в Берлине и есть фраза что они ненормальные в таком положении и такая вера идеология . Спасибо thank you. Victor,прав , что кто латинского не знает тот в принципе и не может себя считать знающим образованным. Он думающий интеллектуал, хотя есть насчёт исторических событий фактов в отношении России поверхностная предвзятость некорректность и неправильное осмысление из за этого. Типа Сталин тиран на этом можно даже с таким аргументом и не дискутировать. Глупость поверхностность недостойна умного. Люблю умных.❤

[@ezra420420]

rename stanford😂

[@Aroncare]

DUNING KRUGER at its finest😅

[@jefflinsk8032]

Wokeism has gone too far. But not every woke activity is wrong. Statues are not necessarily history. Removing a statue, put in place in the Jim Crow era to memorialize a southern general, is different than renaming a university whose founding family built the damn thing. While I agree wokeism has gone too far, some of his examples/comparisons are poor.

[@Dude0000]

Wokism is extreme atheistic puritanical Christianity.

[@KountKalergi]

Wokism went to far the moment it sprout into existence.

[@idiotproofdalek]

Except it doesn’t stop there does it…?

[@Neema150]

Change is never painful only the resistance to change is painful. Old man.

[@knine1652]

"I Love the Poorly Educated" - D. Drumpf

[@amariner5]

And here are the Trump voters, listening to VDH, teaching their children Greek and Latin. Imagine how poorly educated in civics you would have to be to accept Harris as the Democrat nominee, AFTER they punted on a primary.

[@robertleebishop]

Is that your takeaway from the interview?

[@1Smendrik]

In Victor's first example, whilst I'm sure he's correct in what he says he omits the fact that there's some science behind the climate change where as there's naff all science behind the Jesus story

[@chrisrecord5625]

Trump is today's Alcibiades.

[@larryburgess4816]

right-wing propaganda.

[@pamcornelius9122]

aka TRUTH

[@Dailydoseofstupitity2]

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