Hop Versus the Top 5 Trends of SHOT Show 2024

[@slickwillie5681]

I can't wait for shotshow 2028 where every manufacturer rolls out their new line of tactical muzzleloaders.

[@sgthop]

Just like the founding fathers intended.

[@mghegotagun]

@@sgthop I own an M-98 widow for home defense...

[@Pyreleaf]

​@@mghegotagungod, I fucking loved that rifle. The black version was the first ultra-rare that ever dropped for me, and it was a match made in Heaven. Too bad Bioware got eaten by EA.

[@mghegotagun]

@@Pyreleaf I usually used the valiant for headshotting trash in short order in the mass effect 3 multiplayer days, but the black widow was a boss shredder for sure. Anyway, the M-98 comment is a video parody of the 'as the founding fathers intended' meme.

[@Pyreleaf]

@mghegotagun oh yeah, i'm familiar with the meme, just had to reminisce about good ol' days.

[@theBullStarr]

"give me a tactical lever gun" "You want mlock down the whole handguard?" "Yup. but I'll never mount anything on it" "Full top rail the whole length?" "Yes. I have a micro red dot to mount in the very rear." "Skeleton rear stock?" "Of course. No cheek weld for me." "Is it ok that it only comes in outdated or overpriced calibers?" "Oh, I insist."

[@cyrusfreeman9972]

This is too accurate, rofl!

[@shmoopsIII]

Free can of mustache wax with every purchase.

[@handroids1981]

Chef's kiss.

[@jmanswat2457]

Though the ammo is being modernized. More effective now on that point. And industry remains on point for the PCC but lever action.

[@mtnbound2764]

SOLD!

[@BehindTheGoldenCurtain]

Can't decide if Hop is just jaded by everything, or if he is actually the voice of reason inside our heads.

[@CertifiedSunset]

He's realistic and utilitarian first, but he has expressed interest in odd guns or gear before.

[@nilknoc101]

It’s a tasteful combination of both I think

[@G0ldL3ader]

Well it doesn't help only half his face works

[@jerrymayo4571]

kindred brother, always skeptical, untrusting, and honest - "F" your feelings kind of guy................I LOV IT!

[@smokingcrab2290]

He should be my lawyer

[@gypsonny2]

This is why Hop mever gets invited to exclusive events from manufacturers. This is why we love Hop

[@jaeger1447]

Damn, TFB is doing well enough to commission an AI-generated Max Headroom simulacra. Crazy times we live in.

[@ChuckThree]

*lesbian Max headroom

[@lungeranon7645]

😂

[@TheDoomWizard]

Yeah 2023 was the hottest year ever recorded. Guess we can't even talk about it huh

[@desertpunk6705]

Ha ha ha, you said “simulacra”

[@favor4afavor823]

Simuwhatta?

[@PolymerLad]

The one lever you missed that has promise to do things right is Henry's newly announced one that uses STANAG mags, in 5.56 and .300blk. It's more appealing to me than hunting down a lefty bolt gun with the same features. What's probably driving the industry as a whole is people wanting to Yellowstone larp.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Wow I totally missed that one. Lever guns redeemed??!!

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

🤔 What is a Yellowstone larp?

[@longshot7601]

I blame the John Wick4 movie for the lever gun trend.

[@PolymerLad]

@@WALTERBROADDUS It's a modern western show for people that still watch television, like my grandparents.

[@Saltpork305]

​@@WALTERBROADDUSSoap opera around cattle ranching, horses and cowboys.

[@Armadillo223]

Every time I get tempted to get the latest I try to calm down by buying a case of ammo.

[@favor4afavor823]

It's a struggle, but it's the right decision

[@matthewbeaver5026]

Yep, gonna continue to feed what you already have. Not add more mouths to feed. 😅

[@doc-t-8648]

same. just try to use what i have and train and stockpile ammo.

[@cin426]

I love when trends get left behind, and the market gets flooded with it for 1/2 price.

[@cyrusfreeman9972]

based

[@rickgeorgette9657]

Your honest straight forward approach to this subject is truly refreshing. You cut through all the BS marketing and tell it like it is, thanks!

[@joker747A]

The B-roll footage of the forklift moving the port a potty summed up shit show nicely 😏

[@crazysilly2914]

it was BAD this year….

[@onpsxmember]

​ Better than last year.

[@laskalives]

Biggest fad this year: saying they made innovations but their innovation was akin to painting an existing product another color or bringing something to the market that no one asked for. (PSA and Holosun aside)

[@baddadjokes9330]

Really impressed with the holosun new product lines. Even if they don’t go mainstream they at least attempted to bring something new and innovative to market.

[@pdxmarine1430]

I love the Holosun thermal pistol dot...not because it is actually practical, but because it is a cool proof of concept that can lead to other ideas. I can see that being way more useful as a piggybacked or offset dot set up on a rifle that can be used to scan at night, or as a regular red dot during the day without adding a ton of bulk and weight to the rifle.

[@faryldaryl3975]

Innovation could be defined as bringing something new to market that people didn't know they wanted/needed. “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.” ― Henry Ford

[@shmoopsIII]

Imagine writing this comment and being able to show it to someone in 2017…psa and holosun leading in actual innovation.

[@mtnbound2764]

seriously, daniel defense really screwed the pooch this time around. the h9..pshh please.

[@Helfirearms]

Lever action trend is because they are great suppressor hosts and suppressors are ever increasingly popular

[@richardknickmeyer9596]

This is why I want one. Subsonic 38 and short range deer rifle with 357. I'd rather have this then a 300 blackout.

[@poopoo7705]

It's for cucked AWB states

[@luked8101]

The only reason I bought my Henry X. 38 special with my can is ridiculously quiet.

[@nonyabiz9487]

I find that hard to beleive since silencers require way more BS to get not as many people have them as you think.

[@richardknickmeyer9596]

@@nonyabiz9487 Yeah but the people who have silencers are buying WAY more guns then the average gun owner. Small percentage of gun owners but high percentage of the guns.

[@NunyaBesnas]

I think the explosion of lever guns is also nostalgia. A lot of us grew and with these firearms but not all of them get passed down to us. My grandpas 30-30 won’t end up in my hands. Plus they are a lot of fun and are pure American in spirit.

[@Clockwork0nions]

This. All of my grandpa’s guns were ended up with my uncle…..when he died his bitch ex-wife sold them all.

[@CertifiedSunset]

I think the proliferation of retro AR's and lever action rifles is just a natural response to people being burned out on the copy+paste tactical freefloat AR-15's we have had for so long. People just want something different now, and once the consumer market for these guns is met the popularity will die back down again. But the fact that PSA is bringing old designs like the Department of Energy 9mm AR to market is very cool and they will become collector pieces in my estimation since the originals basically don't exist anymore, at least for the common man.

[@zen-Tii]

“Convicted Glock fan.”😆

[@mtnbound2764]

most glock fans get convicted at some point!

[@Gojeto346]

the intro alone is why I trust you over 90% of people on here

[@weekendwarrior8334]

I could feel the hate flow thru you during that DD PCC video 😂

[@marlowek1936]

That PCC is straight up dumb. For the price you can get an mp5 clone or literally any other fun size PCC with accessories.

[@stevem4783]

Daniel Defense: for when you want something you can get anywhere else, but you want to pay twice as much for it.

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

And it not work very well

[@pauledwards9493]

Yellowstone probably started the lever gun trend "get off my land" but why would you want one apart from fun or laws?

[@timunderbakke8756]

Fun is a pretty strong reason. One other thing I can think of is suppression. A subsonic lever is going to be stupid quiet until you cycle it.

[@basedWisco715]

99.99% of guns are purchased for fun Not that that’s an argument, it’s just funny to see people who’ve never shot a gun in anger lecture people about buying guns for fun

[@akmarksman]

I live in Alaska, a .45-70 makes sense because bears and moose aren't small cutesy disney characters you see on tv.

[@irregularrex4004]

People forget how light and handy lever guns are. You don't always need to ruck around a 20pd AR10 to walk through the woods.

[@archaotist3365]

I want one because they look cool tbh. But like someone else mentioned, I also want to run one suppressed. There's 3 companies doing lever actions that can take stanag magazines and they're all planning to do 556 and 300 blackout. Fightlite and Bond Arms announced/revealed theirs at last year's shot show and Henry revealed theirs at this year's shot show.

[@atomicsmith]

I agree. The PSA 570 was the most interesting thing they showed. Unfortunately their meme guns got more votes like the X5.7 and the VUK.

[@762Coolhand]

I want the .308 jackal.

[@stevem4783]

The bolt-action has real potential. Buying something from the factory floor fully customized the way I want, and probably coming in cheaper than a floor model Ruger American or Rem 700? Yeah, I'm in.

[@DTreatz]

Ain't nobody memeing about the MP5.7, that shit looked pretty deece

[@Fadaar]

@@762Coolhand the 308 jakl is 100% on my to-do list. i want another 308 but dont feel like breaking the bank on something new since i already have an AR-10 and M1A.

[@atomicsmith]

@@762Coolhand agreed

[@Zundfolge]

My theory on the lever gun thing is that with several rounds of panic buying for the last decade and a half, everyone has all the ARs they need and now want something fun and different. With maybe a little bit of "at least they won't try to ban this" (news flash; yes they will).

[@zexstrow376]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's seen the rise of tactical lever guns over the last few years and been confused

[@Bearsfan131]

I think the only one I'm cautiously optimistic for is the new Henry supreme that takes AR mags. I think that concept is the best for a very legal gun with affordable ammo.

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Someone hasn’t see Wind River lol. I’m only half joking it’s an excellent movie but that Marlin was in Jurassic World right around the same time. It think that’s what started it.

[@CosetteTape]

It's half legal paranoia and half dorky LARPing made real. That said, I love them foe their novelty

[@UnderBakedOverEngineered]

Tactical tube magazine/classical design lever actions make no sense (short of quality of life upgrades like better or easier mounting of optics and lights). Now magazine fed tactical lever actions...they're Welrods on steroids. No gas issues from shooting suppressed, you control the cycle noise, and you can shoot fairly fast if required. You can also make shots pretty far out on modern sub-sonic chamberings due to their high bc bullets and rotational inertia. So a proper rifle setup helps you take advantage of braced/supported shots.

[@irregularrex4004]

​@@UnderBakedOverEngineeredIn a scout or recon roll a tube feed lever gun isn't a bad choice. Most calibers they come in are good to around 300yrds, they're great suppressor hosts and can get very low to the ground when prone shooting. They're also light and very handy. Not the worst option honestly.

[@rickh9396]

As I grow older I gain more appreciation for older guns. The same nostalgia-cool factor at play with retro ARs is what makes lever actions popular. Might as well be updated so it can be used tactically if needed. If you're a purist, go with wood and skip the picatinny and M-LOK. It's always good to get other perpectives, which makes Hop's style and preferences a great contrast with James.

[@qp6563]

I'm convinced Hop hates everything except glocks,NV and AR-15s. also,hop did you get shot show flu?

[@whitediggity]

But If someone found a warehouse full of 1980’s Spanish pistols with a MSRP of 50$ he would pass out from excitement.

[@paleoph6168]

Glocks and AR-15s... yep, he's a general utilitarian. Quite mundane, yet practical.

[@hakjobtm7472]

Outwardly yeah, but I think deep down he loves all sorts of weird obscure stuff. Just look at his 'modernizing' series, you don't put yourself through that amount of bullshit unless you secretly love those guns lol.

[@sertank735]

No, but he did get shot show herpes.

[@2bitmarketanarchist337]

Nah check out the older videos on his personal channel. Man *loves* late 20th century forgotten Spanish handguns. This very video he mentions that he's hopeful the 570 makes it to market.

[@kfranklin308]

I agree 100%! Some very weird trends going around that just “look cool” but don’t really have a purpose.

[@eriesniper]

They shoot bullets, right?

[@CertifiedSunset]

A gun is a gun, just because it's not a Glock or AR-15 doesn't mean it doesn't have purpose.

[@vrilcel]

@@CertifiedSunset What purpose does a modernized .45-70 with a skeletonized stock hold?

[@Bubben246]

@@vrilcel Being able to take damn near any game on the North American continent, and hopefully being cheaper than a "classic" model.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@Bubben246As if there are *that many* people doing that that also want a tactical version

[@johnsanko4136]

Even when explaining the DDPCC, the Daniel Defense rep basically said it was a company afterthought. They started making 9mm barrels for the H9, so making a PCC was kinda just a thing they could slap together. Rarely have I seen a product made with so little enthusiasm behind it. Not saying it's bad or poorly made, just that it basically exists because why not.

[@bennyjallen]

I can't help but wonder if this was a bean counter decision that literally everyone else was against. It really shouldn't exist

[@jasonchatham4170]

Hop keeping everyone grounded as usual. No BS or flashy trends are appreciated 😅. Thanks for bringing your Dad (James) back down to reality!

[@go4ride]

"Alternate history of Cerberus Group" HAHAAHHAHAA That is hilarious...and dead on.

[@6foot7dad]

I was skimming the comments to see if any of the soy boy's in skinny jeans that mostly make up his viewers would catch that. Good on you 👍

[@go4ride]

@@6foot7dad Skinny soy boys with AR's???? I thought that would upset their mental health.

[@Dive-Deeper]

Hop is looking a little like Max Headroom. Love this guy's reviews. No BS, no fluff, just straight truth.

[@rondobrondo]

one day he'll snap and reveal MAX

[@jackwalsh5270]

Next HOP vid should be his ideal Shot Show - companies that are usually there and what the top 5 “should pursue” topics for them are.

[@bennyjallen]

This 1000%

[@TommyPinto]

That was a great video - I can rarely sit through these KZbins, but this one had me snickering at how "real" it kept things. Much appreciated!

[@Ztram2]

Curious on your thoughts of the 300blk Henry lever action that takes pmags. Of all the lever guns at shot, that one actually sounds interesting.

[@Borderline5440]

That's the "killer app" as far as lever guns go.

[@EricPardo]

Love it. Refreshing no bs delivery…yet informative and entertaining. Thanks!

[@FaddaJoe]

H&R is definitely the reigning king of retro ARs. Beyond them being "rare" at the time the craze kicked off, they're fun to build and shoot, and even somewhat practical as bare bones rifles without the complication of debating the pros/cons of XYZ brand of optics on a flattop. I love that H&R is making it possible for the average shooter to own what is essentially a functional "museum replica" to hang on the wall that they don't feel bad about taking to the range. I'm also really hoping PSA's .308 JAKL makes the cut.

[@aetius9]

DO NOT give them ideas on a resurrected Volcanic. That was a bad system that should remain a historical oddity. :P

[@tfbtv]

But I WANT it

[@Saltpork305]

I agree with this. Volcanic was a weapon of its time and quickly overshadowed. S&W saying they're innovating by introducing a design from the 1800s did make me laugh though.

[@shoelessbandit1581]

Im curious with the invention of modern powders and copper jackets if we can make rocketball ammunition only suck a little instead of a lot

[@motherurck7542]

Nah, we need more bad idea guns out there.

[@700tgizzle]

I liked the idea of lever actions that take ar mags. Just for the reaction of the mommy’s looking for action group.

[@jarink1]

Yeah, Hop missed that one. To me, the Henry Supreme is the most interesting lever gun of the last few years because of the AR mag compatibility. Since it obviously uses rimless cartridges, I'm hoping they will expand the line to other calibers. A modern lever gun also makes sense if you put a can on it. The Henry was also set up for that very well with the enclosed hammer, vastly cutting down on gas blowing in your face. Interestingly, Henry used more traditional styling, and the only nods to modern "tactical" trends were the pic rail and threaded muzzle.

[@JustARandoChannel]

It's great that you and Othais had the same reaction to the S&W & the Volcanic

[@TTime685]

Shotguns arent sexy? You're trippin. The Mossberg 590a1 Retrograde is one of the sexiest things Ive ever seen..

[@johnmoon9562]

Plus, Genesis type shotguns will be replicated, made less expensive and more accessible, and there may yet be an era of mag fed 12ga ahead.

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

Oh don’t get me going

[@randomidiot8142]

Some people think feet are sexy.

[@mrobinson57]

I have 2 H&R pardner Pumps (All steel 870 Clones) that have been running tons of shell for the past 15 years. 1 is a Truck gun and 1 is in the bedroom for self defense.

[@johncrauswell1781]

the lever action thing is for the inevitable coming gun bans. they did it in uk and Australia.

[@DesertGhillie]

I'm confused with the Beretta frame mounted decocker analysis. When were these full size heavy guns marketed as CC guns? I've always thought I might get a 92 as a duty/range gun... now it's offered by Beretta with a frame mounted decocker which I like more than the slide mounted option. This is a good offering for those who prefer this manual of arms (like me). Why are you analyzing these duty guns as CC guns... of course they suck if you grade them by that criteria lol.

[@servicerifle16]

Probably just having a "It's not a Glock 19" moment.

[@Kesssuli]

@@servicerifle16 Team glock seems to be against anything else. Like every gun had to be meant for CC ?

[@2a0wen]

The assessment and questions about the lever action market here are spot-on. I don't understand the appeal other than they're faster than bolt guns and they get around semi-auto ban shenanigans. I'm reminded of that hideous Mossberg offering from a few years ago. I classify them as FuddARs and ignore them.

[@leeroykelly781]

“FuddARs” most likely to be used to get around bs laws that are approved by fudds rather than the fudds themselves. Especially since these guns do not have the “friendly” wood furniture on them.

[@huntermorera]

I liked the Henry supreme. Still that classic wood furniture but takes AR mags in a lever action platform. Plus Henry makes great guns!

[@TheOlfactory]

Hey Hop, what did you think about the Henry AR mag lever action? The one firearm I was hoping you would comment about.

[@xXCigarXx]

Palmetto is just doing amazing stuff and I'm here for it. I love that they get community feedback and use it.

[@randyreviewsit]

1. the PCC's were bad: New scorpion is still a bad blowback gun, the daniel defense one is meh, the ruger thing was pretty bad too. 2. the lever actions seemed pointless 3. 10mm/5.7 guns are very limited purpose This was a great list though man, you are great at calling out the impractical stuff.

[@leeroykelly781]

I’m sure 2. Is more so trying to circumvent anti-gun laws like Hop said, and honestly I do not blame manufacturers for seeing that problem. Hell they banned the AR platform in Canada from what I heard. It’s a solution for a problem that SHOULD NOT exist.

[@rondobrondo]

What's wrong with the Scorpions? They seem completely fine to me?

[@charlesreid2141]

I wish there were more people on KZbin that would be brutally honest about not needing to buy all the latest crap that this industry needs to shill to us so that they can report higher profits to their shareholders. Let's face it, the vast majority of shooters would benefit more from increased training and practice than from wasting their money on "retro" (read old technology) junk the marketing people are pushing these days. Sorry, but I am a 66 year old guy that believes in use what you have got and get really good with it. Good work Hop.

[@jediknight1294]

The PDP is doing a lot of work in the comp scene, Stoeger and Kwansik love it.

[@jarink1]

The PDP is not supposed to be a CCW gun. It's a full-size duty pistol, which is literally part of the name

[@jediknight1294]

@@jarink1 the metal frame I really want to play with for IPSC.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Almost as much as they love... Glocks

[@jediknight1294]

@@Hoplopfheil except they throw away almost everything Glock in the gun

[@DinoNucci]

The PDP slide is HIDEOUS

[@MrSumGuns]

Your the man Hop! Love your analysis of the industry.

[@valentinezehel54]

Hop Is Built For This !

[@Jon38]

One thing I noticed in the lever gun explosion is the Henry (of all companies) was first to come out with one that uses ar mags in 5.56 & 300blk! I think this might be the 'real hype' of modern cartridge in a modern mag that has the versatility of subs & supers with a locked action that makes subs quieter. Also, BCA has a lever action lower...YMMV...

[@John_Redcorn_]

We’ve already had that for decades with bolt guns/aics mags

[@Jon38]

@@John_Redcorn_ Bolt guns and lever guns aren't the same and there are no 30+ round aids mags

[@John_Redcorn_]

@@Jon38 30 rounds in a lever or bolt gun is pointless anyways. And no they arent the same: bolt guns are more accurate, easier to work on and replace parts, and more calibers

[@Jon38]

@@John_Redcorn_ How is it pointless? More ammo is always better. Lever guns are great woods guns, handy & fast follow up shots. If a bolt gun is all you need, that's great. I like a bit of variety.

[@John_Redcorn_]

@@Jon38 yes more ammo is better but all the benefits you mentioned already exist with an AR. In 5.56 and 300blk, it does everything a lever gun does but better. You could say that its for the commie states that dont allow ARs but i dont find spending all that r&d, prouction cost, etc. on a niche market a good business model. I could see if only few companies were making the ‘tactical’ levers, but theres so many now. Also, the sound diff from a suppressed AR vs bolt/lever gun isnt enough to matter.

[@Funting3417]

I'm looking forward to the psa 10mm dagger 🗡 I'm a big fan of the 10mm and 40s&w but I'm not gunna hold my breath for a 40 dagger

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

I found him! The guy who likes .40s&w!!! (I’m kidding. It sucks but you do you)

[@captsam54]

Your spot on Hop... I own four 9mm Carbines.. And lol, might let all go for the "Flux Raider".... The 22 Lever rifle is cool.. I did actually own a carry handle Bushmaster.. I am getting away from AR DI rifles... and going to gas pistons.. Now if the delayed blowback or roller lock varieties would come down in price.. That would be something..

[@MandoWookie]

The lever gun thing wouldn't be as bad if it wasnt just every company putting out either a Marlin/Henry copy, or some Frankenstein AR upper lever gun thing. It's obvious it's mostly just a 'follow the leader' thing. Henry's new AR mag lever gun is the stand out, as it's the only one I can see that's trying something actually new. It's a completely new action, not a kludge of something else. But it's also in that 'prototype don't know when they will actually be on shelves' category.

[@irregularrex4004]

There's been mag feed lever actions before, and in full size rifle calibers. They just weren't very popular.

[@nebowictz7707]

They said it should be shipping out in the next couple months. It still may need to work thru some growing pains but it sounds like it's way beyond prototype. And unlike past mag-fed levers, they are using standard mags and also designed the lever to work with full length mags.

[@MandoWookie]

@@nebowictz7707 ? IIRC they said they had no timeline because it was too early and they still had patent and production things to work out. At least IIRC the video I saw said they weren't sure they would even have it at SHOT until the last minute. Ironically Othais on C&Rsenal actually had some involvement with the project because he's in SC and friends with one of the designers.

[@carlneiper8056]

You are so spot on! Spending my money on ammo and reloading and some optics!

[@CyberCrusader27]

I was really hoping Olcan gets made... A bullpup lower is a real innovation.

[@SpecOpsGear]

Can the bullpup be a lever action though?

[@CyberCrusader27]

@@SpecOpsGear Perhaps. Take a look at the Desert Tech SRS or HTI. They are both bolt action. So I guess somebody can make a "Broke Back Mountain" special... I mean lever action.

[@SpecOpsGear]

@@CyberCrusader27 i was joking.

[@CyberCrusader27]

@@SpecOpsGear Lol. With the Shot Show this year its hard to tell. It was lever action fest. I was waiting for some upstart to roll out a drum fed lever fire semi-auto.

[@SpecOpsGear]

@@CyberCrusader27 make it a revolver bullpup lever action and you got a deal

[@CallanElliott]

"I cant think of 5 handguns that left an impression, much less enough to make a top 5 list..." He says with a video of a porta potty being hauled off in the background. God, I love Hop so much

[@coolguns689]

This was great, i casted my vote for the PSA inventory. Great presentation of shot show.

[@Zogger568]

Bushmaster has a lot of nerve showing up to the retro ar party when the acr still isn't real

[@Glandash]

Bushmaster doesn’t own the ACR anymore.

[@Derang24]

Hop, my guy! You’re killing it!! Thanks for the coverage.

[@ljfitz]

Can't help but feel the clip of the porta potty and CZ banner together was intentional lol

[@Kesssuli]

Of course you must kind of hate CZ if you dislike Beretta. Gotta wonder what team plastic frames have against guns which are mostly meant for enjoyment at range.

[@ljfitz]

@@Kesssuli I kind of get the anger right now. I love cz and Beretta but they don't seem to be catering to the carry crowd right now. Most of their recent pistol releases seem to be catered towards fancy race gun crossovers.

[@Kesssuli]

@@ljfitz Taking account how many options market already have for CC guns and both CZ and Beretta are least most part european manufacturers. So CC is not their market area in europe where most of their products are meant for competion. Just personal though but i think they dont see it worth while to invest too much for CC guns which are already more than saturated by cheaper manufacturers in states. Specially when people tend to whine why this is so expensive. I can get that and that for one third of price. So there you have it in nutshell.

[@ljfitz]

@@Kesssuli this is very true, really I'd be happy if they just started optics cuts from the factory for the sp01 and p01. They probably offer it for le in Europe but I think they have a deal with CGW in the US.

[@Kesssuli]

@@ljfitz Unfortunately im sure both guns you mentioned have been discontinued a while. First steel frame gun what they offer with factory ready optics cut is shadow 2 OR and second shadow 2 compact. Then we have p-10 series which have model with cut. But not even their most expensive competion line have those from factory. So it is up to local machinist to make those if you dont want to use plate for rear sight. So we have exacly same shit in europe. In all honestly i dont understand why they are so stingy to offer their guns with factory ready cuts. Even though it is already kind of standard for everyone else. Even Beretta have understood that fact.

[@athejumper]

Very interesting and informative no bs, just what I actualy want to hear

[@valentinezehel54]

Hop would be happy with a modern P series ruger an so would I

[@ETHRON1]

Always a pleasure to watch your take on things...The intellectual Sarcasm is always entertaining 👏 😄. You and James should do "head to head" video once in awhile....might be fun.

[@mustachedliberty]

My wife just walked by, saw Hop, and said, "He looks like a hotter Ben Shapiro. Like Ben Shapiro with an actual Jaw"

[@hustler-6922]

simpin' and cuckin huh?

[@bilzill1]

Ben Shapiro 🤮

[@blessedbaphomet]

Hopefully your wife isn't eternally dry like Mrs. Shapiro

[@DinoNucci]

What was she wearing?

[@John_Redcorn_]

A trans ben shapiro

[@JetorgXIII]

As usual Hop coming in with some of the most well thought out takes in the industry. Nice of him to plug his kid brother James, what a bro!

[@cornfedchris58]

Two good trends from the show: suppressor tech and less expensive 2011s

[@TheMikeshannon]

I got down to the 2nd to last one and was going to comment "what no lever guns?" I think the lever guns are coming from the compliance thing, but also the fact that they can be quiet as hell with a can

[@redjackgunner]

Pretty Hop vs James. Hahaha

[@diet_dr.demoncore]

As always it's been fun watching your shotshow coverage. This year my wife and I had our first baby on the 25th of January and we were stuck in the hospital for a few days so I really looked forward to when a new tfbtv showtime video dropped. I think the psa bullpup looks really cool and even the idea that they are considering such a thing is a good step for bullpups in the civilian market.

[@Manco65]

The space cowboy lever actions yeah .......odd how the one cartridge that could be a decent capacity and an ass kicker is only made by Rossi in a lever action. The .454Ca. Why no others?

[@mathildadeer]

S&W teasing a Volcanic and dropping an overpriced 44 mag rifle was a massive disappointment

[@TheHateHarbinger]

I just think "tactical" lever actions are cool, and that's all the reason I need to get one. And the 50 state legal for a military member like myself who could end up in a terrorist state like California, is at least somewhat appealing.

[@adventurfly879]

The taurus pt 92 is a jam-o-matic though. The beretta seems like it actually runs

[@alexjband]

Most baffling part about the lever action resurgence is that not one of them (that I saw) chose a novel caliber.

[@johnmoon9562]

True! Surprised to not see one in 350 Legend, especially for how well it suppresses.

[@miliusrex11]

Hop just answered all my Shot Show 2024 questions in one video.

[@garyK.45ACP]

Marlin dropped off the radar for a couple years and are just getting back to production. I think the other makers are rushing in to fill the void. Lever actions _with tube magazines_ DO work better with rimmed cartridges, simply because of how the dual cartridge stops work to control feed from the tube magazine. It is _possible_ to chamber rimless cartridges in tube magazine lever guns, such as the .35 Remington, but they have had issues with reliability (cue all the Marlin 336 owners to say "I've shot my 336 20 rounds per year for decades with no problems!") That's why VERY FEW rimless cartridges have _ever_ been chambered in tube feed lever guns. None of that applies to _box magazine_ lever guns such as the Winchester Models 1895 and Model 88, Savage Model 99, Browning BLR, or the Henry Long Ranger which can work well with rimmed or rimless cases.

[@maximusjoseppi5904]

5.7 is the most useless meme trend of 23 and 24 🤣 Caliber is terrible but everyone ran out of ideas so resurrecting old calibers that never took off and old guns is the trend. Cough 10mm cough cough you too buddy. It's the same as movies, no one has an original thought in their head anymore so they just regurgitate old hits.

[@stevem4783]

Love the "10mm offers you .357 power!" dudes. No, it doesn't, and frankly it's stupid in a carry weapon as you can fire more quickly and accurately in a comparably-sized pistol with 9mm. Speed and accuracy far trump any minor ballistic difference especially against human targets. Not talking about bears here. And past that you can actually afford to train with 9mm.

[@case8987]

Facts. Anything other than 9mm is COPE

[@Audios2010]

Cant wait until blunderbusses/flintlocks come back in style 😤🙏🏼

[@Kesssuli]

As blackpowder muzzleloaders i dont think that is gonna happen. But i wont deny how those steampunk and other similiar alternatives have always least looked cool.

[@Audios2010]

@@Kesssulimakes me grin thinking about a future cyber punk style musket 😂

[@Kesssuli]

@@Audios2010 Ay mate take a look of this piece of handcannon! It have thermal optics and all other shit you can buy with a money. Yup there is very few of similiar things what in same time sounds so stupid and cool as fuck 🤣

[@favor4afavor823]

Hop, the grumpy cat of guntube 😆

[@CovertOutdoors]

I am with you on the PSA stuff. Excited for sure but would like to see more than the one or two we might get in the near future. I had trouble narrowing my votes down to 3. Maybe they can ramp up production faster?

[@newerest1]

A hop hypothesis 😂

[@whittler9000]

hopthesis

[@cokedaz]

My useless opinions: Any Beretta 92 I can get with a frame safety instead of a slide safety is good in my books. May be too big to conceal but for home use, target use and comp use its one of the most pleasing pistols to shoot imo. As for the lever guns. I like the classic styled lever guns, I prefer wood or laminate stocks and blued steel not stainless. Like mentioned before there is largely no point in MLOK rails when you aren't going to put anything on it other than a light at most. I certainly don't like the skeletal stocks either, unless it could fold or something. But I do think lever guns do need some modernization, we need some inexpensive lever guns that come with pic rail on top for optics and there needs to be a detatchable mag fed lever gun that doesn't suck. The Henry did seem appealing as it took AR mags so as long as it runs well that offers a lot to have larger capacities and shorter barrels and cartridges that would not work as well in a tube. I like the rail on top, and a detatchable magazine, everyone is stuck with longer barrel lengths in order to gain capacity, but past 16 inch its largely useless in .357. Maybe if Ruger could bring back the 96 but in 9mm, .45 ACP, 10mm etc with a magazine that holds a decent amount that would be good. Yes I get it, why bother when you can get a PCC, but there are a lot of countries that can't have semi autos, so a detachable mag fed lever gun is the next best thing. The main issue with these is price. Currently there is no point. We need inexpensive lever guns of good quality and so far everything is more expensive than mid tier ARs. The DD PCC looks kinda cool being a smaller frame with that skorp mag, but I feel like any PCC over 1200 or so should probably have some sort of better recoil mitigation system. For the price of that one you can get a lot better.

[@Echo-xe5gj]

All hail King Hop Reeves

[@seanmtak7573]

5:56 convenient timing also reminds me of the early Vietnam illustrated m16 manuals that had orange furniture… looks gorgeous.

[@intergalacticchicano]

I wanna go to Shot Show at least once and sell sling shots and slings

[@intergalacticchicano]

@danielkreher7066 thanks for supporting small business 🙏🏽

[@threaded4mypleasure818]

It's kinda ironic that cheapo psa is the only girls in town actually killing it with new releases. Price point, quality, and innovation, all come to mind.

[@jmanswat2457]

Yeah, why are no other companies taking these cues???

[@rondobrondo]

well they aren't really killing it because they have more quality control issues than ever because of massive employee turnover in their production line. They have horrible retention and the working conditions there right now are pretty shitty. So their quality control has gone off a cliff the last year and half, I think it was when they started going crazy with the new releases like the premium saber lines, the JAKL, the Krink, and a few other guns. They're spreading themselves too thin and now we are suffering for it. They didn't even get my barrel + handguard on my rifle straight. Both of them are crooked and tilted off axis

[@90ornothin]

@@rondobrondono they don’t you clown

[@onpsxmember]

Can you do a video on all the markings that are out there and where most are to find and rank them?

[@jjgourde]

You missed the Henry LR in 556. and 300Blk. It uses Pmags and uses modern non rimmed cartridges.

[@John_Redcorn_]

Thats an ever worse idea than using the rimmed cartridges. At least those make sense in a lever gun

[@basedWisco715]

@@John_Redcorn_how is that a bad idea? A lever action .300blk sounds like an awesome suppressor host

[@John_Redcorn_]

@@basedWisco715 just my opinion, 300blk in anything other than an AR doesnt make a lot of sense. The minute advantages you may get with a bolt/lever gun arent worth giving up semi-auto and AR customization. Not to mention the ability to run super short barrels. No point in having a 16-20” barrel when youre shootin subsonics

[@basedWisco715]

@@John_Redcorn_ that’s fair, although I’m not sure why you would need a long barrel on the new Henry that takes AR mags. There’s no ammo tube

[@sealove79able]

a great very interesting video and items Mr Hop.have a good one.

[@chrishelms1967]

The #1 Trend of SHOT 2024 was clearly the ORB 😮

[@Furluge]

11:46 - There's a few lever actions that aren't like that. Henry Arms has a box fed lever action that comes in 5.56 and .308 among several others. And Bond Arms and FIghtlite are making lever action AR-15 lowers. Edit: Also Henry has had the box fed lever guns for a while but they took proprietary mags but people in the comments are saying they have a new one that takes stanag mags. I dunno, I like the idea of them simply because it sounds like it would be fun to shoot. Just like a bolt action would be fun to shoot, I'm not sure it's entirely practical.

[@Hawtload]

the PDP with the DPT trigger and Sprinco springs is by far the best I've ever tried. Without that trigger combo in there, the PDP doesn't do much better than anything else except for maybe how good the grip feels.

[@jonah8133]

The pdp actually does everything worse than say a M&P 2.0 including grip. Pdp blows fam. Worst shooting polymer gun

[@adjacentchannel]

I've been wanting a Henry X since before COVID priced it more than I was willing to spend. Found one on sale last week, plus 10% off & free shipping. Came out cheaper than what it used to be. It's 45 Colt, not a popular cartridge but it's what I wanted. Just ordered some 230 gr Hornady HAP bullets to reload for some super quiet rounds through my suppressor. 45 ACP velocity with a soft lead HP out of a rifle should take care of anything I need to dispatch quietly.

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

The contrarian edge-lord strikes again!

[@dancortes3062]

The maket is saturated with modern ARs, so I think I'm going to pick up a retro AR. Now the market is saturated with retro ARS, time to go back to modern ARs. Gun trends are a flat circle.

[@keggerous]

A PCC is worthless if it is the same size and weight as a fucking AR-15 pistol.

[@DinoNucci]

Wrong

[@go4ride]

Cheaper to shoot and pratice with? More indoor ranges available? That's it, as far as I can't tell, although those reasons are not trival.

[@DinoNucci]

@@go4ride sound signature?!

[@keggerous]

@@go4ride If you're concerned with cheapness, get a 22lr I'd say. I do get what you're saying though. Another thing is some people may want their primary weapon to share ammo with their backup. Which would be easy if you ran a PCC. I just don't see the point though. You're better served in almost all areas with a full powered rifle cartridge.

[@keggerous]

@@DinoNucci 300blk is very quiet sub sonic and you can switch between subs and full powered rounds just with a mag change.

[@dairyletterkenny]

Good to see you at SHOT Hop. I think the biggest theme you missed is 3D printed titanium suppressors. While these aren't new, it seems EVERYBODY has one out now. In particular, using 3D printing to create low back pressure designs appears to be a big trend. Unlike the 5 trends you identified, I think this 3D titanium low back pressure suppressor thing will be with us for a while.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Man I think I got sick of that halfway through last year's show.

[@gavinmullet688]

Another set of objectively correct hop takes

[@ETC_Rohaly_USCG]

Have a Taurus PT92AFS. I love it and they did the safety/decocker right. Trained on a M9 in the CG, but hated the slide-mounted safety. My Gunners Mates would agree. Definitely a bi… to disassemble and clean.

[@Tarquin21723]

... In this episode of 'Hop hates Everything'...

[@MrGochira]

Levergun go click clack, make the good brain chemicals

[@Kesssuli]

Isnt it pretty much any metallic sound you can make with a gun ? Pump-action rack is one most easily recognize sound in world.