Horizon Forbidden West [PC] vs [PS5] | Direct Comparison

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Nick930

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@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
Seeing a lot of comments about "frame generation" being on: 1) i ended up turning it on/off several times after recording the settings menu to test it 2) closeup images are captured using photo mode, so even if it was enabled, it wouldnt impact anything. Photo mode wont freeze a generated frame in place with artifacting Frame gen is basically only ever used in this video during those sound comparison sections to demonstrate the smoothness of the gameplay versus the old 30fps fidelity mode on ps5. I'm well aware of the disadvantages of frame gen, but even still - artifacting is not nearly as prevalent as it was when this feature was first introduced
@Afroz10x
@Afroz10x 6 ай бұрын
How to enable frame gen in game
@ddd45125
@ddd45125 6 ай бұрын
Well said my friend
@malyman316
@malyman316 5 ай бұрын
Inthe options but you need geforce 4xxx to use it​@@Afroz10x
@danieleder7510
@danieleder7510 5 ай бұрын
Then you might want to increase your sharpening. You set it to 5 on PC, PS5 might just have a higher value for that.
@jyvids
@jyvids 28 күн бұрын
There are still issues. Capture card stuff is completely mismatched. Enable HDR in windows. Ensure 10 bit colour caoture. Tone map if appropriate. The colour mapping is all over the place
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa
@Kdkjdjewerdnxa 6 ай бұрын
The fact that cross gen games can look this good makes me think that very few ps5 titles actually utilize the hardware adequately. Devs used to need to optimize around hardware limitations but now the solution is FSR and a pro version of a console that’s had very few major exclusives that aren’t also ps4 games
@supremancy
@supremancy 6 ай бұрын
I think it is more of the fact that the PS5 is using essentially the same hardware that is used on the PC. Just a much much weaker version so that it can fit in a console and stay within the much smaller power constraints of the PS5
@Da-iken
@Da-iken 6 ай бұрын
Developers statement is, that the PS5 is not at the limit and PS5 pro is too early. And i also agree. People looking too much to naked hardware specs. But you have to use them. It is a waste of hardware if you jumping on a next more powerful hardware when you not have reached the peak. It also makes optimization worse (also for PC at the end)
@Frank_Dietrich
@Frank_Dietrich 6 ай бұрын
@@supremancy Yes, but even without an operating system that eats up resources and does things in the background.
@IPaid4WinRAR
@IPaid4WinRAR 6 ай бұрын
It's also interesting that a lot of the cross gen games that have versions for both PS4 and PS5 (like HFW, GoW Ragnarok, Ghost of Tsushima) run very well. Meanwhile we got recent titles like Dragons Dogma 2 and Rise of the Ronin that can either barely run 30 fps or have to have major drops in resolution for performance mode.
@ihanak8814
@ihanak8814 6 ай бұрын
the crazy thing is that sony first party developers can pull these kind of graphics out of a ps5 just think about the potential of a 4090 if a developer really knew what they were doing.
@ZykopathOfficial
@ZykopathOfficial 6 ай бұрын
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how good game graphics have become!😘
@gamingSlasher
@gamingSlasher 6 ай бұрын
The skin on Aloys close-ups just boggles my mind.
@Олексій-г1в
@Олексій-г1в 6 ай бұрын
Graphic is good, but game itself not so good. Zero Dawn felt noticeably more... finished? Like if I needed to get somewhere I walked there, it makes for good immersion. But in Forbidden West some of such travels are just cutscenes and lot of events are just hard-scripted, often Aloy just taking in dialogues by herself, game didn't give as much dialogue choices than fist part did. It feels like I not controlling character as much. It breaks immersion a lot. Also key bindings on PC is kinda awfull, double click on any movement key jumps in that direction, tab open map, F opent weapon selector, r use item. After playing fist part this is very, very distracting, and at this moment there is no possibility to change key bindings. Game needs a few patches.
@trekker59
@trekker59 6 ай бұрын
@@Олексій-г1в there is just a more cinematic feel to the game. It is wanted not an matter ff finished or not.
@duranted6120
@duranted6120 6 ай бұрын
Theres loads of games that came out this generation with bad graphics.
@fadeeeed
@fadeeeed 6 ай бұрын
still quite rare
@NotLanny
@NotLanny 6 ай бұрын
Finally, I’ve been waiting for this video. I’m so glad this game is finally out in PC.
@NotLanny
@NotLanny 6 ай бұрын
Sony should always send you review copies.
@LeeC_808
@LeeC_808 6 ай бұрын
Yea, agreed. I’m a pc guy but I’ve been playing all the recent Sony games on pc in 32:9 and I love it. Just finished dats gone and a rift apart and loved it!Horizon Zero Dawn is next
@DarkoBert-ob6yr
@DarkoBert-ob6yr 6 ай бұрын
Horizon2 looks like black magic on a Ps4 Pro
@EarthWalker0
@EarthWalker0 5 ай бұрын
Decima engine is god tier. I cant believe it ran so well on my ps4 slim, then after buying ps5 i played it again. Hats off to the devs for optimisation. PC version also looks great.
@s0ad29
@s0ad29 6 ай бұрын
The 'Decima engine' is just incredible, Death Stranding also runs great.
@GForceIntel
@GForceIntel 5 ай бұрын
There barely anything going on on death stranding. Of course it will run great
@s0ad29
@s0ad29 5 ай бұрын
@@GForceIntel Well, Forbidden West is a different story and it runs excellent 👍🏽
@GForceIntel
@GForceIntel 5 ай бұрын
@s0ad29 It's the developer, not the engine.
@hxhx
@hxhx 6 ай бұрын
Im still impressed how well optimised was HFW for PS5 looking amazing and running great at VRR. I wish more games would be like that.
@DarkoBert-ob6yr
@DarkoBert-ob6yr 6 ай бұрын
Horizon2 looks like black magic on a Ps4 Pro
@taladrocule
@taladrocule 5 ай бұрын
Y en la PS4 base
@cristianibarra1330
@cristianibarra1330 5 ай бұрын
And that's why I buy Playstation Exclusives (the ones I like) Day One, because I like to support developers so that the business works and they continue creating technical wonders
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 5 ай бұрын
Playstation studios knows how to make games. They are up there with the very best studios .
@marxed
@marxed 2 ай бұрын
Yes its incredible ps5 is around max getting or close to it thats very incredible that he can run with vrr at 40fps
@user85937
@user85937 6 ай бұрын
The PC version seems to have a graphic setting bug, setting the details lower than actually selected.
@exoticspeedefy7916
@exoticspeedefy7916 6 ай бұрын
No, I think it's just better able to be optimised on console. And since it's a console api exclusive optimised for the PS5 hardware
@brzimtrco6142
@brzimtrco6142 6 ай бұрын
@@exoticspeedefy7916 nope, you just have no idea how this works
@tlevs7621
@tlevs7621 6 ай бұрын
@@exoticspeedefy7916I don’t think you understand pc gaming
@DepresjaToFikcja
@DepresjaToFikcja 6 ай бұрын
who care about Pc, most games are bugged af lol
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 6 ай бұрын
​@@exoticspeedefy7916Bro... why do you feel the need to explain something you know nothing about?
@muhtasimmahin5057
@muhtasimmahin5057 6 ай бұрын
Pc verson has graphics bug. they wouldn't reduce quality for pc. texture will be fixed in future updates. marvel's spider-man also had similler kind of graphics bug .
@Motion_God
@Motion_God 6 ай бұрын
Yup idk if they fixed it in todays patch
@paranoid9678
@paranoid9678 5 ай бұрын
still not good that it has that bug also wht with the building but on console it still not fixed ?
@darknesschilled
@darknesschilled 5 ай бұрын
i hope they do.. bcoz at 7:28 aloy's face looks better then the pc
@kiekeyz
@kiekeyz 6 ай бұрын
This game honestly has some of the best cutscrnes. I love how characters move around and stuff even in minor cutscenes unlike games like Stanfield with fixed views. So immersive. I just destroyed hades and having a great time playing it for the first time on PC. Awesome game
@kiekeyz
@kiekeyz 4 ай бұрын
@K.C-2049 lol same here. I feel so bad skipping dialogue… and I’m a big mass effect fan and skipping dialogue has come back to bite me in the butt before 🤣. I really need to check out BG3. Been hearing great things abt it
@hicarodestrui
@hicarodestrui 6 ай бұрын
Ps: Aaparently Photo Mode is bugged in Alloy's Model. The gameplay itself the model quality are the same as PS5. But once you enter in Photomode in PS5, the model changes to a Cutscene quality version, while in the PC, it still uses the Gameplay quality version. It's a bug in photomode, not a Downgrade, since the cutscenes uses the same high quality cutscene version as in PS5.
@mooncalf_69
@mooncalf_69 2 ай бұрын
I played in both PS5 and PC and this is what i think In PS5 you need to play on performance mode otherwise the game is unplayable at 30k and being a game where you need to shoot and aim with less fps is a nightmare and feels cluncky, this said we will discuss only performance mode. The game looks blurry if played on a good monitor or TV and overall the PC versión even on low or medium graphic quality is way better looking than the PS5 version
@sepplschpeedruns281
@sepplschpeedruns281 5 ай бұрын
The fact that I can play the game with the same picture quality of ps5 but at 144 fps (1440p display, 4070) is a game changer. I love this game so much!
@JonathanGodoy-wi7jf
@JonathanGodoy-wi7jf 5 ай бұрын
Y si lo pones en 4k a cuantos frames va?
@technologicalelite8076
@technologicalelite8076 5 ай бұрын
​@@JonathanGodoy-wi7jfI hope this translates well, when going from 1440p to 4k, the average performance drop is about 26%, despite the resolution increase being about 75%. This is because oh how GPUs render data from game engines, it has to throw away less of it's work putting calculated data and fit ot into pixels. It's a bit more complicated than that, but it can be more efficient. Anywho, 144 fps - 26% = ~ 107fps.
@ChrisBtw
@ChrisBtw 5 ай бұрын
I promise you're not running the game at 200fps like me lol
@Steffox1312
@Steffox1312 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Damn Forbidden West graphics are surreal. The Horizon serie became one of my most beloved games. I love the universe, the combats,... Kudos to Guerrilla Games !
@ThwipThwipBoom
@ThwipThwipBoom 5 ай бұрын
Crazy how FW is a cross gen game as well. Just shows that game devs are not using the PS5 hardware to it's maximum potential. It's a bad joke that DD2 runs at 30 FPS on the PS5 and XBSX when 99% of other games run at a smooth 60 on them.
@doomslayer8985
@doomslayer8985 6 ай бұрын
main difference between both versions is the resolution and the FPS, but in terms of graphics fidelity (textures, shadows, LoD, etc) are practically near the same even on maxed settings on PC
@BumbiPuck
@BumbiPuck 5 ай бұрын
I understand your point of view that the PC version is the superior way of playing the game, better framerate etc. But i think that most people (probably) dont have such a powerful PC, at least now when prices are crazy high for PCs. So i would argue that for some people, the PS5 version would be a fantastic way of playing it :)
@Cund
@Cund 3 ай бұрын
Anyone know what happened to this channel? The guy uploads at least once a month, especially if there's something new out, but he hasn't uploaded in 2 months. I don't have a Twitter account, so I can't tell what he has posted there. Edit: Woops, always make sure you've checked everything before asking lol. Just checked his community tab right after posting this.
@Aro_94
@Aro_94 3 ай бұрын
Nick, are you alright? 😢 Where are you? A lot games are waiting to be compared now… I'm worried I hope you're well, please let's know if you're fine.
@datazen936
@datazen936 2 ай бұрын
Played in on PS5 + Sony OLED TV. I was so amazed by the graphics and haptics feedback
@RafidW9
@RafidW9 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the best PC ports I've played. Only encountered a single bug throughout the whole playthrough.
@fastica
@fastica 6 ай бұрын
The quest log is bugged. Everytime I select a quest category, it remains yellow, as if it were selected.
@NostalgicMem0ries
@NostalgicMem0ries 6 ай бұрын
its because nixxes ported this, they did both spiderman ports alongside ratchet and clank, best ports ever imo. im so happy they doing ghost of tsushima in may, what a relief after all the bad ports we had last 4 5 years
@chs_ambs8356
@chs_ambs8356 6 ай бұрын
You beat it already?? Did you take time off work lol.
@joseandresgonzalez7258
@joseandresgonzalez7258 4 ай бұрын
The fact that this guys got this game on PC as well is a fucking huge W for everyone that loves gaming and also a great story.. Thanks Sony!
@Norightnowrong1
@Norightnowrong1 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, the 40fps version on console serves me REALLY well, is is one of the only games I didn’t feel jealous of not having a high end pc Guerrilla is amazaing!
@random_gamer_guy82
@random_gamer_guy82 6 ай бұрын
Same honestly
@Zlatan78wakeboards45
@Zlatan78wakeboards45 6 ай бұрын
The problem is, to get graphics as good as this, you will need a gpu that costs twice as much as a ps5
@pravnav
@pravnav 5 ай бұрын
Sony has literally admitted each ps5 is a loss because they know they can charge their users subscriptions for everything 😂 Ps+, online fee, all that crap adds up and in the long term pc is literally cheaper
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
100 percent incorrect.
@antonio14799
@antonio14799 12 күн бұрын
#1 PS5 Slims are sold at a +net profit #2 you don't need PS+ to play HFW that's just for online gaming and streaming, the point is, it's not worth dishing out 1500$ to 2000$ or more just to have improved frame rates.
@StreetComp
@StreetComp 5 ай бұрын
Somehow Guerrilla and their Decima engine does faces waaaaaaaay better than anyone else, two years ago and it’s still the best by far
@SimonLacey-MySleekDesigns
@SimonLacey-MySleekDesigns 6 ай бұрын
They look 99% the same
@vanceg4901
@vanceg4901 5 ай бұрын
Nixxes really screwed up if they have a less detailed Aloy in the PC version. What the bloody hell Nixxes?
@Aro_94
@Aro_94 3 ай бұрын
Nick. where are you man? Are you alright? Have you lost your password? Say something to know you're fine
@Kingolaconny
@Kingolaconny 5 ай бұрын
The PS5 PRO is going to play this at minimum 60 fps in fidelity mode (maybe even better visuals)
@thomas47289
@thomas47289 6 ай бұрын
I feel like frame-gen should be disabled to improve visual quality
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
Aside from the occasional artifact, framegeneration does not degrade quality in any way. Tested this a lot, and it would never even be noticable in some of these comparisons considering they utilize the games photo mode
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 6 ай бұрын
Frame gen looks/works great in this game
@00Clive00
@00Clive00 6 ай бұрын
Most like people don't have it set up correctly if they think it looks a lot worse or have only ever tried fsr3 frame gen. On a side note, the compass at the top of the screen looks like a lower frame rate when ​panning the camera, this is with frame gen off at 116fps. It might just be a technical limitation, but I find it a bit jarring.@@Nick930
@thomaseruchie1262
@thomaseruchie1262 6 ай бұрын
​​@@Nick930 it is really shocking to see a 500 dollar console delivering superior visuals over tge pc version with extremely powerful gpu. What the heck are the devs even doing. This should not be possible.
@L4veyan
@L4veyan 6 ай бұрын
@@Nick930 Frame gen blurs the image in every single game I've tested it, I'm pretty sure Horizon is no exception.
@snrenders6909
@snrenders6909 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I was waiting for this video.
@dsouthernflyboi
@dsouthernflyboi 3 ай бұрын
Has anybody checked on Nick? He hasn’t uploaded in a while. Just want to make sure he is ok.
@s.w.4409
@s.w.4409 6 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Dragons Dogma 2 runs like absolut dog sh*t and doesn't even look half that good...
@damianabregba7476
@damianabregba7476 6 ай бұрын
CPU. Dragons dogma have more going on in terms of systems. Graphics has nothing to do with it.
@s.w.4409
@s.w.4409 6 ай бұрын
@@damianabregba7476 Still really bad optimisation and borderline unplayable performance unfortunately...
@gotmilk6982
@gotmilk6982 5 ай бұрын
@@damianabregba7476 runs like dogshit on my 13900k
@Stoes94
@Stoes94 5 ай бұрын
@@s.w.4409 Y'all must not be playing the same game...I've played over 60 hours of DD2 and havent run into a single problem
@s.w.4409
@s.w.4409 5 ай бұрын
@@Stoes94 Really? For me it constantly drops below 60 fps even on mid to low settings. Especially in the big city, it drops down to 40 fps for me sometimes.
@svinjadebela6893
@svinjadebela6893 6 ай бұрын
13:49 "the game runs beautifully on my machine". you mean the highest end machine there is, lol. :)
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
Yup. And it runs beautifully!
@Marko-ij4vy
@Marko-ij4vy 6 ай бұрын
To be fair this game is well optimized and you dont need the most powerful pc to make it run well.
@sammyflinders
@sammyflinders 6 ай бұрын
Tbf that does not remotely guarantee great performance these days. Ask him how great Dragons Dogma 2 runs....
@christonchev9762
@christonchev9762 6 ай бұрын
well the game runs fine with my RTX 3060 at 1440p and as u can see if u wanna run the PS5 version at 4k max settings u must play it at 30 fps and i can run it at a4k also with my card tho thats cause we got DLSS
@Endermanv-ot2if
@Endermanv-ot2if 6 ай бұрын
Akshually you dont have the highest end rig. Where is your 14900k?@@Nick930
@gonzo1400
@gonzo1400 6 ай бұрын
Nick could it be that DLAA is causing that issue in reduction quality?
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
I checked this, and the image quality always looked better with DLAA. Something seems to be wrong with the shadowing on those details or the textures themselves
@Vantus4net
@Vantus4net 6 ай бұрын
@@Nick930DLAA redraws moving objects, like all DL*. And sometimes it doesn't happen for the best. A waterfall, for example, could be an example of such a change.
@Spadenace
@Spadenace 6 ай бұрын
@@Nick930 Hi, sorry I'm not that knowledgeable on DLSS & DLAA. May I enquire what's the reason we use DLAA for comparison rather than DLSS? is it that DLAA is superior than DLSS?
@timodelaender5077
@timodelaender5077 6 ай бұрын
@@Spadenace DLSS renders the game at a lower resolution but makes it look higher quality, DLAA is basically Native DLSS, so it's higher quality since it just handels anti aliassing and doesn't lower the resolution
@ricardofernandes6196
@ricardofernandes6196 6 ай бұрын
DLSS is an upscaller, DLAA is a antialiasing@@timodelaender5077
@kylargaming6676
@kylargaming6676 Ай бұрын
Please make a direct comparison on the new Age of Mythology Retold versus the original game!
@Vyyc-m9g
@Vyyc-m9g 6 ай бұрын
Nixxes is good at ports, but when it comes getting everything out of the PlayStation hardware guerrilla can't be beat
@45-will-prevail-to-the-47
@45-will-prevail-to-the-47 3 ай бұрын
Bro, where did you go ? It's been 2 months.
@Aku77777
@Aku77777 6 ай бұрын
Moral of the story..... you don't need a 3k PC to enjoy 4k gaming. I have a 3k 4090 PC and a PS5, but I use the PC to get high FPS when gaming in VR. Consoles have come a long way and more or less caught up with PC when it comes to Graphics.
@sweetamsterdam
@sweetamsterdam 6 ай бұрын
Consoles didn’t catch up with PC, rather game developers are being held back by consoles. Without consoles not enough games will be sold and that, unfortunately, means games will always abide by outdated console specs.
@christonchev9762
@christonchev9762 6 ай бұрын
and on performance to i dont think they can get to the level of the PC
@TheBorgey
@TheBorgey 6 ай бұрын
@@overover9607This
@mohamad-abdo
@mohamad-abdo 6 ай бұрын
Yeah keep telling your self that ​@@sweetamsterdam
@lilpain1997
@lilpain1997 6 ай бұрын
Consoles haven't caught up though??? Cyberpunk with PT on and Alan wake 2 look far better than what the consoles can push out. They will never catch up as they are always going to be behind, nvm they want to come in at an appealing price to many.
@Brolylover007
@Brolylover007 5 ай бұрын
I am a huge graphics enthusiast and the first time I played Forbidden West, it was on PS4 Pro and I was mind blown by how good it looked on a regular 1080p TV with PS4 Pro Supersampling mode. They truly have made one of the most stunning looking games ever made. Hats off to the devs 👏🔥
@rolandogarcia6383
@rolandogarcia6383 2 ай бұрын
Sony limita intencionalmente la Calidad de sus juegos en pc para no quedar mal con sus usuarios de consolas.
@maxigabime5308
@maxigabime5308 6 ай бұрын
I like the ps5 version, of course the pc one runs better, but the physical copy for me it's fundamental. So Playstation for me. Great video, thanks!
@ViralWatchMedia
@ViralWatchMedia 5 ай бұрын
I am so glad I waited, PC got the superior version of the game and I'm happily playing it in 4K 200 FPS with frame generation. All of the patches that the PS5 version got carried over to the PC. They vastly improved the game on PS5 with the 1.16 patch and so damn glad to see they migrated all of that to the PC version.
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
liar
@krayzieridah
@krayzieridah 5 ай бұрын
The fact that I can run the game at 4K/60fps with an RTX 3080 and i7 9700K with DLSS (Quality) just tells me that this game is an extraordinary PC port. Other developers should take notice of this, so we won't get those terrible PC ports (I am speaking of you Iron Galaxy Studios - TLOU). This is such a gorgeous-looking game!
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
TLOU runs 4k maxed out HDR dlss quality at 120+fps on my rig. Upgrade your toaster.
@UngovernableU
@UngovernableU 5 ай бұрын
On god bro, I'm surprised how well this game runs I can play all high stable FPS no stutters with 2060 8 GB
@MrSeb-S
@MrSeb-S 5 ай бұрын
@@ProjectMore69 On my rig run at 8k 120 fps!
@eddiepuffy
@eddiepuffy 6 ай бұрын
I've just noticed your comparison with the PS5 version when it comes to the particles and especially waterfalls. I think it's to do with you disabling motion blur, it's the per-object motion blur that creates that illusion in the waterfalls and other effects. They don't really look any better on the PS5 they're just blurrier in motion which suggests lack of per-object motion blur on the PC. Perhaps you can have another look.
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
That section was initially longer in this video and i cut it short, because i disabled motion blur in BOTH versions of the game. The per object motion blur shouldnt be required to see a waterfall rendered properly. Most PC players on higher framerates want to disable motion blur effects because the higher framerates negate the need for such an effect. I initially wrote/recorded that this lower quality waterfall isnt necessarily a problem with the port, but rather the downside of switching to a higher framerate to render effects intended for 30fps w/ motion blur effects. I will say though that even when enabling the blur effects (because i had the same thought when i first saw this), the waterfall STILL doesnt look as good for some reason. Because of that, i reduced the length of that section of the video and simplified it.
@ricardofernandes6196
@ricardofernandes6196 6 ай бұрын
You need to disable the frame generation, cripples the image@@Nick930
@eddiepuffy
@eddiepuffy 6 ай бұрын
@@Nick930 Fair enough and I agree with you. Like I said before to my eye they don't particularly look any better per se on the PS5 (like the number of particles and or meshes look to be the same or of similar quantity in between the versions) just that the PS5 has that stop-motion blur effect applied. So perhaps it's an upscaling thing or the PC version is lacking per-object motion blur all together.
@AimbotThundah
@AimbotThundah 2 ай бұрын
Need more vids!
@CaioHartmann
@CaioHartmann 6 ай бұрын
Why did you turn on the frame gen? Doesn't make sense in a visual comparison.
@hicarodestrui
@hicarodestrui 6 ай бұрын
Frame gen Literally doesn't show any artfact in the game, and he only have framegen in the sound comparasion.
@jmangames5562
@jmangames5562 5 ай бұрын
@@hicarodestruiFalse I would guess you are PS5 fan
@hicarodestrui
@hicarodestrui 5 ай бұрын
@@jmangames5562 He literally stated in the comments that framegen was turned on only during the sounds comparasion. + I literally played on my 4070, dlss3 framegen does not degrade the image quality. And what this has to do with "Being oa5 fanboy??"
@zaselimgamingvideos
@zaselimgamingvideos 6 ай бұрын
Reflex latency : On+Boost lowers the fps drastically like around 40 to 60. Just only on ON does the trick and you won't be needing FG. I was getting around 100+ fps at native 4K DLAA and everything at max.
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 6 ай бұрын
Can you talk about resolutions and framerates when you make direct comparisons? Some game get extra assets when using higher internal resolution, which is interesting to see. Frame Generation on PC gives you a huge framerate boost too, even with hardware that performs similar to that on the PS5. It is something that some people may like to hear.
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
I usually discuss this towards the end as I want to avoid going into detail on things like resolution and framerates, areas that are already explored in great depth by the good folks over at DF
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
Games do not get extra assets on resolution increases, you are simply able to make them out more clearly lol
@resColts
@resColts 5 ай бұрын
​nah some games literally have higher quality textures while on 4k and give 1440p same textures as 1080p.
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
@@resColts no they do not its just the fact you need 4k in order to make visible use of the high res textures. They are still there at lower res but cant notice it as well
@resColts
@resColts 5 ай бұрын
@user-rt4ct6tq3r games with 4k textures as downloadable file exist you can go educate yourself on the difference
@davidliu3463
@davidliu3463 5 ай бұрын
If they replace the character with someone not so ugly, sale will be doubled.
@blackthorne2001
@blackthorne2001 5 ай бұрын
one of the reason that you don't need Ray Tracing on a newer games look at this beautiful game it runs better because there is no Ray Tracing.
@ProjectsCity
@ProjectsCity 5 ай бұрын
running this game in 5k ultra settings is a huge honor. My game looks better on pc
@darkanraiden
@darkanraiden 5 ай бұрын
Its not that they couldn't give PC much better visuals, its that they don't want to.
@KommanderWar
@KommanderWar 4 ай бұрын
man, I had no idea that the audios changed in the PC versions or remasters, now I'm going to be paranoid...
@paprykszadolowski8796
@paprykszadolowski8796 4 ай бұрын
Ghost Of Tsushima PC/Playstation "Direct Comparison" would be great :)
@Alvar666
@Alvar666 6 ай бұрын
a really very good port for PC, probably no one will notice any major differences during gameplay, the noticeable difference will definitely be in the number of frames, probably adding the ray tracing option would give a greater advantage in the overall appearance in favor of the PC. Most likely, the modding community will correct some imperfections for the developers :)
@aterikasedi
@aterikasedi 6 ай бұрын
Mesut Çevik'e izletin şu videoyu. Sanmam ama bi nebze utanır belki.
@h3kam
@h3kam 6 ай бұрын
Turn off frame generation.... why do you need to boost fps for visual comparison?
@SuperUltrawide4K
@SuperUltrawide4K 5 ай бұрын
Go back to 3 minutes 41 and see the tower in the middle of screen, then tell me the ps5 version is better lol
@tedwilson1477
@tedwilson1477 5 ай бұрын
I didnt enjoy it as much on PS5, 6/10. On PC Ultrawide and a 4080 its a 9/10. I think this also has a lot to do with the kb and mouse controls being infinitely superior to controller.
@tsek4saken
@tsek4saken 6 ай бұрын
I don’t get why some people here argue about image quality on PC. This is a port not a game design with PC and PS5 in mind. IQ is clearly better on PC as is frame rate but that’s it. As it should be for a port of a game that is couple of years old.
@Aid3nn33
@Aid3nn33 6 ай бұрын
ummm buddy, the game is native 4k on PS5
@tsek4saken
@tsek4saken 6 ай бұрын
@@Aid3nn33 I don’t understand your point
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын
Image quality is the same.
@FNXDCT
@FNXDCT 6 ай бұрын
sucha beautiful game. on both devices. tho i really couldn't play it on 30fps, unfortunately. but for those who didn't see 60fps yet, that's gonna be an increadible experience !
@soumen08
@soumen08 6 ай бұрын
Why would you use frame generation to compare! Every frame you capture has a 50% probability of being a generated frame. Frame gen is useful for something like Alan Wake 2, which in its full version would not even be able to run on a console. Use DLSS quality if setting everything to max reduced your framerate too far. The main advantage of PC of course is that we can see this game at 60fps or more, rather than the choppy 30fps that we saw on PS5. Its a beautiful game, and deserves to be experienced on PC at high framerates and high graphical quality.
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
The images if these textures and character models are in photo mode... frame gen isnt going to mess with any of that And discussions of things like lighting or effects arent going to be impacted by this either considering what im looking for. Maybe when discussing the water? But even still, The issues discussed there happen with frame gen on or off And frame gen does not "reduce framerate".. what are you talking about?
@prismgames
@prismgames 4 ай бұрын
This game looks unbelievably good, truly shows how little of the next gen hardware’s potential devs are using
@artistrahhul
@artistrahhul Ай бұрын
I think it is done intentionally because purpose of these ports is to attract customers to the consoles.
@Bloodwalker091
@Bloodwalker091 4 ай бұрын
Are the weird downgrades patched? Or does the game still looks worse than on PS5?
@christopherm7248
@christopherm7248 4 ай бұрын
I would like to know as well
@blackdoc6320
@blackdoc6320 6 ай бұрын
Im ngl. Love these games, but Aloy's quips like "Going down!" or the ones she says whenever you run out of inventory space. Wish there was a setting for that.
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
10000% agreed. I like aloy... but she doesnt need to comment on EVERYTHING
@PeterPauls
@PeterPauls 6 ай бұрын
I don't know what could be the problem with those details, I didn't tested these minor detailes but I belive if you said it because I watch your videos for a long time now. I play the game on an RTX 4080 in 1440p, Maxed Out, DLAA + Frame Generation and I get a constant 160 fps (locked my monitor) and I would appriciate a "higher than console" setting because there are a lots of horsepower in the high-end GPUs and the game would definitely benefit from that and would age better. I don't complaining though the game is beutiful, one of the most beutiful games that I've ever played. Those who has lower end GPUs, we already saw that the game plays well on lower quality too on a wide variety of PCs.
@pqfire0950
@pqfire0950 5 ай бұрын
The game looks stellar on pc at almost every angle.
@LynxGGTV
@LynxGGTV 5 ай бұрын
might be on your end. I checked and compared the details on your video and mine doesn't look like that on PC.
@resColts
@resColts 5 ай бұрын
Different game version
@AverageJoe-tu5sr
@AverageJoe-tu5sr 6 ай бұрын
I own both the PS5 and PC versions of the game. On my pc a medium rig - 5600x cpu, 3070 gpu and 32 gb ram - I used the dfs fsr mod to get higher frames rates and I got it. However the game suddenly does huge framedrops mostly in cities and some other areas (1440p/high settings). Its amazing how well optimized and good looking the PS5 version is.
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
12700k 5.2ghz here and ddr4 4800mhz ram. I get no such drops in the cities at all.
@Crackhonos
@Crackhonos 5 ай бұрын
5600x + 3080 here, I had huge fps drops in cities and cutscenes for no apparent reason (when camera was facing certain direction only), issue was fixed for my by latest nvidia drivers
@AverageJoe-tu5sr
@AverageJoe-tu5sr 5 ай бұрын
@@Crackhonos Seems like the latest update did some good. However the 3070 is really starting to show its limitation of 8gb vram now.
@MrDarcykampe
@MrDarcykampe 6 ай бұрын
DLAA will blur the image somewhat. Not as bad as TAA. Comparison should have been done without it. That's why there's a difference at 1:45.
@Nick930
@Nick930 5 ай бұрын
Tested with dlaa on / off. Just showing the footage i captured here
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
DLAA does not blur the image.
@nishitnalubola3535
@nishitnalubola3535 2 ай бұрын
The Sunwing episode felt like I was Toruk Makto. Those Visuals were just eye Candy
@MissAlice_646
@MissAlice_646 2 ай бұрын
How you doing Nick
@Ngkiii
@Ngkiii 5 ай бұрын
The most noticeable is smooth frame rate, other than that is almost identical
@CRF250R1521
@CRF250R1521 6 ай бұрын
good to see the game runs fine on an outdated i9
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
An outdated i9? Lol what?
@CRF250R1521
@CRF250R1521 6 ай бұрын
core i9 10900kf is outdated, the current 14900k isnt that great either tons of games are still cpu limited@@Nick930
@CRF250R1521
@CRF250R1521 6 ай бұрын
obviously its a personal opinion but the 10900k is outdated by todays standards. @@Nick930
@lostwarhead
@lostwarhead 6 ай бұрын
@@Nick930 yeah, in computer years the 10900k is a little old.
@niteridering
@niteridering 6 ай бұрын
this game must play with dual sense controller to experience the immersive haptic feedback and the adaptive triggers when archery.
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 5 ай бұрын
The trigger literally feels like your pulling on a bow string it has this woody feel to it.
@DedlyAidan
@DedlyAidan 6 ай бұрын
"some post processing effects will be disabled to provide cleaner images for comparison" *uses FG and DLAA* I understand the photomode stuff in regards to FG, but at least turn of the AA if you're going for clean comparisons
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
Since when are we turning anti-aliasing off for comparisons lol what?
@pravnav
@pravnav 5 ай бұрын
lol tf turn the aa off and it’ll look like a ps3 game
@ArcticVXR1
@ArcticVXR1 5 ай бұрын
Well yeah... if you have a pc that can churn out DLAA at high fps then your gonna use it lmao. Same with FG, which doesnt do anything visually but produces more fps. Pc version is far superior as always 🤷‍♂
@romeeaeron
@romeeaeron 4 ай бұрын
I was very excited when they finally made it available on PC. With all the beautiful textures of the game at the highest settings, I am now able to run it at 60fps only 😭😭😭
@jlb4685
@jlb4685 5 ай бұрын
The PC version has to be bugged on the highest texture preset. I'm sure they will fix it by the time i'm finished with the game like most PC ports.
@pontedaniel6713
@pontedaniel6713 4 ай бұрын
9:19 big difference between this to versions: The movement animation in the jungle, linke the movment of the plants 🌿. Much better on the PS5 than on PC. They have to fix it on PC! 🙏
@DoomPWNZ
@DoomPWNZ 5 ай бұрын
have PS 5 and gaming PC , PC version is much better to play, smoother experience , and mouse is much better weapon to kill machines then your DualSence ;)
@zareefkabir705
@zareefkabir705 4 ай бұрын
The legend himself
@SlipknotRevan
@SlipknotRevan 6 ай бұрын
I don't wanna shit on this video because it's good, but I'm getting tired of PC youtubers turning off motion blur in comparisons. Some games really overdo it and I get why someone wants to disable it, but in Horizon it looks great at 60fps even cranked up. If most people use it, and I think we do, I think it should be on in such tests. The PS5 looks better in many instances because the motion gets nicely accentuated by motion blur. Like the water simulation for example.
@William-Sunderland
@William-Sunderland 6 ай бұрын
Good video, this game is a masterpiece, hope everyone enjoys it.
@thefireslayer2011
@thefireslayer2011 5 ай бұрын
I hope they put everything at the same level with future updates. However, I'm still impressed about how well optimized this game is.
@fortunefiderikumo
@fortunefiderikumo 6 ай бұрын
man i wish this game would have had some raytracing, the shadows,global illumination and reflections in this games aren't up to par with the amazing textures and assets, just imagining this game with RTGI like in dying light 2 and the witcher 3 would be breath-taking
@NatsirtMats0
@NatsirtMats0 6 ай бұрын
Pc version's colors look a bit on the warmer side too.
@Ravix0fFourHorn
@Ravix0fFourHorn 6 ай бұрын
did you try using the default anti-aliasing instead of DLAA? I know DLAA is supposed to be the ultimae AA solution but for comparison sake you should have used the default since the PS5 cant do DLAA. The loss of detail on PC might be caused by DLAA.
@btrazzini
@btrazzini 6 ай бұрын
I sold my PS5 Slim and bought a PC Gamer " but I regret it! " On PC Gamer you have a lot of adjustments and controls to manage which takes a lot of time, not to mention that I paid 3x more, the only positive point was playing 4k at 80fps On the console you just have to turn it on and have fun, but at 30fps.
@saphricpcgaming5182
@saphricpcgaming5182 6 ай бұрын
Water looks worse wtf
@object2b-bx1zl
@object2b-bx1zl 6 ай бұрын
$500 PS5 compete with a $3000 graphic card, bargin!
@rojo9909
@rojo9909 6 ай бұрын
Don't cry kid
@object2b-bx1zl
@object2b-bx1zl 6 ай бұрын
@@rojo9909 I think you are the kid here.
@jantoman4400
@jantoman4400 6 ай бұрын
Classic console bullshit. 500$ vs pc (in your case just the graphics alone, which is absolute bullshit) for 3000$. That toy of yours gets destroyed by a 800$ pc, which is just a small price for having a pc and being able to do whatever you want on it and guess what, we have online play and cloud saves for free :D
@mitsuhh
@mitsuhh 5 ай бұрын
You must be 11 years old@@jantoman4400
@frenchonion4595
@frenchonion4595 5 ай бұрын
PC gamers have a pedo vibe too them so i prefer console. Just the whole tiny screen and a desk in a room thing. I'm in the living room on a 75 inch.
@GOPNiK-47
@GOPNiK-47 6 ай бұрын
Is it true the "shadow quality" set to anything other than off causes severe stuttering inside caves or in other words in indoor environments?
@Nick930
@Nick930 6 ай бұрын
Didnt experience anything remotely like that. But it might be an issue with some other configurations if thats being reported as an issue.
@GOPNiK-47
@GOPNiK-47 6 ай бұрын
@@Nick930 hopefully I’ll have a chance to test it tonight. I’m running a 4090 and it’s annoying me experiencing this. I’m suspecting reflex too but we'll see
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 6 ай бұрын
Turn off reflex. It’s currently broken.
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
@@GOPNiK-47you should try adding the other components like a cpu and ram. gpu only rigs are a bad idea
@ProjectMore69
@ProjectMore69 5 ай бұрын
@@RicochetForcemaybe on your toaster
@mohammad-zabih
@mohammad-zabih 6 ай бұрын
hello mate ! great comparison like always , hope to see PC version gets some fixes for the Graphic issues :( should not be like this for a PC game , one question tho can you please tell me what software and with what settings do you use to Record gameplays ? they look SO detailed and clean , what bitrate etc
@RvkKJ
@RvkKJ 6 ай бұрын
I just finished the main story. Started last week when it launched and already have 80 hours on the game. Although I didn’t like certain aspects of the game like dialogue writing, parkour and the collectibles grind, they had improved a lot on many frontiers and it actually felt like a sequel unlike the Spiderman 1.3 named as Spiderman 2. Looked damn good on my 3080. For once PC players got a good port.
@oBergerr
@oBergerr 4 ай бұрын
This is one of the best looking games i've ever played, for real
@Ivangmer07
@Ivangmer07 23 күн бұрын
This game is the reason why you don’t have to use resolution upscaling for consoles! The ps5 version can run the game at native 4k 30 FPS with barely any issues!!! And you’re telling me that in jedi survivor or any other game that uses upscaling can’t do native 4k because it stresses out the consoles?
@MrSTabNa
@MrSTabNa 6 ай бұрын
30FPS is a pain man.
@razielospl
@razielospl 6 ай бұрын
with Vrr hdmi 2.1 you get 40fps minium. But better unlock fps 1800p and 60+ fps. You don't play 5 cm from TV and looking for hair details :P
@RicochetForce
@RicochetForce 6 ай бұрын
Seriously, 30 fps is just unacceptable for action titles. Playing Zero Dawn at 160fps was a revelation at how response and clean it looked.
@joaocharro1576
@joaocharro1576 6 ай бұрын
Performance mode is 60 and Run great on ps5.
@razielospl
@razielospl 6 ай бұрын
@@joaocharro1576with 2.1 vrr you can get 60 minimum avg 70 max around 90
@ghostblaze01
@ghostblaze01 5 ай бұрын
​@@joaocharro1576and low quality
@lawyerlawyer1215
@lawyerlawyer1215 5 ай бұрын
Im convinced Sony is purposedly forcing their developers to make the pc versions not be better than the PS5 version to over hype their shitty console... How is it possible that textures are worse on PC where you have up to 24GB of Vram on a 4090
@owlboi030
@owlboi030 2 ай бұрын
And ofc you can use some reshade to make it more colorful or improve the lighting in the pc version
@raiden_131
@raiden_131 6 ай бұрын
I noticed Frame Gen enabled have some artifacting in the low part of my screen, but well it doesn't matter too much
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