Horizon Forbidden West - The Story of GAIA + All Subordinate Functions - All Scenes

[@chexfan2000]

Idk why but I got goosebumps when MINERVA asked “Misery… will cease?” It also took me by surprise I figured that MINERVA would just want to keep existing as a “free” AI. Realizing that she was in pain, and was being hostile bc of that, was such a surprise bc how “human” it was. The signal really did transform them, and that rly brought it home

[@omaralqau9008]

poor girl 😭

[@joelstep8288]

makes sense, because Minerva was the only sub-funtion that completed her objetive, disabling the faro machines, and last would be free without a purpose and contained in a cauldron.

[@omaralqau9008]

@@joelstep8288 elethuia too. She breaded and nurtured humans.

[@omaralqau9008]

@@joelstep8288 breeded

[@omaralqau9008]

@Lorne Pribbeno that’s what we like to hear.

[@nalluvsuxoxo]

33:27 I like how Aloy is watching Beta do the puzzle and learns how to do it. The attention to detail is insane.

[@abirbinhabib7669]

the Sobec sisters should've gotten more time together

[@markcronkright4610]

Aloy: "wanna come home?" Demeter: "THE SEED OF LIFE! yes"

[@LeafyTheLeafBoy]

Im kinda sad there is only very few dialogue of all subordinate functions. i wanna hear more Poseidon and Aether voice

[@Mrbluefire95]

This is one of the main reasons why I dislike the Zenith plot line. The game focuses on it way too much and because of that the remaining subordinate functions get no characterization at all. Worst of all the Zeniths end up being cartoon villains. All of that time lost for nothing.

[@froilanflorentino1252]

@@Mrbluefire95 I mean it's not exactly "random 🐂💩 go" kind of plot. APOLLO got deleted by Ted Faro, it's copy is within Far Zenith's ship. MINERVA is powerful enough to defeat the Faro Plague but serves no more purpose other than being additional part of GAIA NEMESIS only intends to awaken HADES but it's awakening caused the other functions to have partial consciousness of the others. HEPHAESTUS was purged by HADES and humans HADES doesn't have any reason to fully awaken the others as their functions are too pro-humans, specially ELEUTHIA. HEPHAESTUS would never eat AETHER and POSEIDON as they are pro-ecosystem. Same goes with ARTEMIS and DEMETER, both are vital to ecosystem and can't exactly mass produce their seeds like HEPHAESTUS. But I also agree that they should have at least gave a short cutscenes of Far Zeniths and how they collected ARTEMIS and ELEUTHIA. I believe Far Zeniths are only tools to introduce NEMESIS as the main villain.

[@Mrbluefire95]

@@froilanflorentino1252 Hence why it would’ve been more interesting if the Nemesis signal awakened consciousness in all of them. Would’ve been more effective for its goal anyway.

[@froilanflorentino1252]

@@Mrbluefire95 ELEUTHIA, DEMETER, ARTEMIS, AETHER, and POSEIDON's purposes contradicts NEMESIS' goal. But if all of them have ever been fully awakened. We would see an A.I vs A.I war that would destroy the Earth within a month.

[@Mrbluefire95]

@@froilanflorentino1252 Did you even play the game? Poseidon and Demeter weren’t easy to get to. Their functions were running amok, hell some explorers nearly drowned.

[@edwinniwed3222]

It was obvious Hephaestus would escape. A next Horizon without machines To kill and threatening world... Maybe a dlc in order To capture it because i understood Nemesis destroyed Zenith colony with its machines too.

[@Jhertzog83]

I imagine the DLC will be attempting to hunt it down, but at some point during the hunt Nemesis will be broadcasting a coded signal to it like it did to Hades to try and integrate with it so it can hijack the Cauldron network before it arrives, giving us a chance to possibly interact with Nemesis.

[@edwinniwed3222]

@@Jhertzog83 Maybe but I don't think so.

[@PRchris13]

The dlc would highly be us getting a copy of hephaestus The third game is deleting the old hephaestus Since I’m this game it is said with Apollo knowledge we can technically make a copy of hephaestus So my guess is that the dlc of this game will be that … is getting the hephaestus copy and probably in the Third game we kill the old one Maybe old hephaestus joins Nemesis or gets controlled by it Since we heard from Zeniths that Nemeis hacked their system and robots and all .. It would make sense the dlc is about a copy of hephaestus As shown in Zero Dawn it was a dlc about another AI So it makes sense I’m this a gem we get a DLC of a Ai this time is hephaestus My question is how are we sure Nemesis won’t take over Gaia when he arrives?

[@bibby659]

Considering the enemy coming, it is understandable that they will need Hephaestus to remain the antagonist for just a bit longer. Can't have humanity gain a formidable army of machines to face it too easily. But also your point is just as valid. Since you will need things to kill and fight until Nemesis arrives and makes everyone regret their choices. Though with all of Zenith leadership basically being dead (no fault but their own since they basically brought it upon themselves with their megalomaniacal tendencies) It makes me wonder just how Humanity will stand a chance where a race of century evolved humans with far more superior tech failed. Unless they can have GAIA reconstruct the Cauldrons and its systems to function like the Zeniths basically printer machine like how she used it before. Would certainly make things 100x faster and more efficient but even then with that they would be running on little less they can fully integrate Zenith tech into Earth tech, making all the systems and buildings slightly different so that nemesis can't easily take control of the whole network and system. Like Nemesis did before.

[@koenwaalde]

hepheastus is the final key to restoring the planet, even with nemesis coming the planet would still end without him being captured, I think he either will be a midgame boss in the next game or a final bos before destroying nemesis

[@lepidlover0557]

Man I wish they kept HEPHAESTUS's voice from the Frozen Wilds DLC. It was perfect for him!

[@ThePreciseClimber]

It is the same VA, just with a different filter. Hades, on the other hand, was voiced by someone else. In the 1st game he was voiced by one of the writers.

[@BladeSky13]

if you know notice they change gaia face model to a new one . i like how it represent that even if her voice and memory are the same her face change to mean this is the new gaia and not the old one from zero dwan.

[@doubt3430]

This is probably one of the ones that customers hades in a test

[@Woodsman9273]

Since Hephaestus has once again been released in to the global cauldron network, I hope we are able to visit other continents in the final chapter of the trilogy, like Africa or Asia. To think all the interesting new machines we could get from such travels

[@Zeknif1]

Or Australia… Aloy: I’m not a big fan of your latest creations. Hephestus: I wish I could say they were my finest work. This Continent… did things to my creations. The Corrosive Fusion Plasma Projectors were… an inspired evolution.

[@Woodsman9273]

Any other continent besides America would be cool to see for the next/final game honestly. Still disappointed we didn’t get a dragon type creature like I had thought when the pre-release trailers were making the rounds

[@R.-.W]

We know now that the Quen have a homeland across the water somewhere in Asia at least. Maybe we’ll be able to visit next game.

[@RuberDildo]

Nah, I want to see Europe.

[@Bionickpunk]

Hephaestus is free primarily so that we can still have enemy robot animals in the third game.

[@narulovechannel2249]

Hopefully, Aloy will have 3 backup copies of Gaia stored in those flash things.

[@ricardobrands9736]

computer says nooo

[@The-No-one]

What about Apollo we can't lose that again

[@jonathon.colman]

​@@The-No-oneyes we can use Apollo subfuction

[@FJF1085]

An immortal guardian, dedicated to the reflourishing of life.

[@SupportPikminXOXO]

It would be nice if the last 2 subordinate are collected in the last game. Hephaestus staving off nemisis, while going full circle and getting a reborn hades to destroy nemisis. and hades will now act as a emergency kill switch for all beings that threaten earth. as new renewed purpose for its original role of just destroying.

[@ThePinkfreak2011]

Does anybody think that when NEMESIS transmitted the code to all of the subordinates, he transmitted his pain and suffering as well? Why would MINERVA be acting like she’s in pain? I would think she would be happy to have her own free will. But in that scene all I heard was suffering in her voice.

[@joelstep8288]

Minerva was the only subrole that completed her goal, disabling the faro machines, and last would be free without a purpose and contained in a cauldron, maybe that's why she was in suffering

[@ThePinkfreak2011]

@@joelstep8288 she is just like HADES. He was created as a failsafe so that if GAIA while trying to re-stabilize the biosphere ended up failing he would step in and wipe everything back to its original state. Well by the time NEMESIS sent the signal, GAIA had already accomplished her goal meaning HADES was no longer useful. He couldn’t do anything but destroy things so she stuck him somewhere to rot away. It’s the same with MINERVA. But it’s interesting. MINERVA could have also found a way to deactivate GAIA if she really wanted to and yet she just chose to flee and live out her days feeling nothing but pain but HADES chose to retaliate. Same with HEPHAESTUS even though GAIA still considered him useful. I think these AIs also learned to feel when NEMESIS sent the signal

[@ThePreciseClimber]

It's pretty interesting most of the subordinate AIs don't even want sentience. And the two that don't want to return to Gaia are consumed by hatred towards humanity.

[@The-No-one]

Maybe because she was alone for years

[@AsianIdiots323]

@@ThePreciseClimber Hephastus didn't even begin hating Humanity. It just kept doing its job, heck it was literally a One-AI-Army in terms of keeping the biosphere safe. It kept machines from going Deranged and maintained core ecological functions. It was literally a Mini-GAIA. Just humans kept hunting these CRITICAL machines that kept the biosphere alive so it went on the defensive (Creating War Machines), but when even that didn't deter humanity they started going on the offensive. Hephastus, besides HADES, was the only AI who truly thrived after gaining Sentience so of course it would try to defend itself. If given enough time, HEPHASTUS would've definitely saw HADES as a threat and began a counter-war against HADES due to it constantly hijacking the machines that kept the Biosphere alive.

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

Already knowing guerrilla planned this to be a trilogy before played knew something would happen to make HEHP escape a remain an antagonist to the player. There’d be no game without the main enemy combat machines. But maybe they can make some kind of plot hole that can keep some machine hostile while rejoining him to Gaia. Maybe Nemesis could hack many machines to destroy Humanity

[@ThePreciseClimber]

Yeah, I've been thinking about how they're going to handle Hephaestus in Horizon 3. There are 2 possibilities, I think: 1. He's captured at the beginning of Horizon 3 during the prologue arc. 2. He's captured in the middle of the game. Maybe if they're going to do naval combat in H3, Hephy's final stronghold could be an underwater cauldron. With option #1, I guess they would go with some excuse why machines are still hostile. With option #2, they could make the Nemesis machines the main enemy type during the 2nd half of the game. The Nemesis swarm doesn't have to all arrive at once - things could get progressively worse with deadlier and deadlier Far Zenith creations descending.

[@mancaratajc7861]

When I was getting poseidon he sounded way happier than the rest of the sub-functions I mean each one of them was a lost ai wanting to go back to gaia

[@Elysian-III]

I miss Varl... ugh watching that again made me shed a tear... WHY GUREILLA!!!! I started to like him :(

[@omaralqau9008]

I didn’t like him

[@heistingcrusader_ad3223]

@@omaralqau9008 why?

[@omaralqau9008]

@@heistingcrusader_ad3223 he was always trying to get into aloy’s business and trying to do things that are too hard for him

[@soumenchakraborty2450]

@@omaralqau9008 he was dedicated so he followed. maybe hard for him but I respect him cause he never gives up.

[@omaralqau9008]

nah

[@greenhat8978]

I always liked how Hephaestus listed off every cauldron you took from him. It always made it sound so personal.

[@The-No-one]

Since we have Apollo at the end of the game, what if in the next game we can make high tech gear.

[@simpleviewer1334]

GUNS

[@The-No-one]

@@simpleviewer1334 exactly

[@RuberDildo]

I'd be happy if they got rid of their ridiculous outfits and got some modern warfare suits.

[@Bionickpunk]

People would start uplifting themselves faster than Japan during Meji period.

[@Frostwho]

@@simpleviewer1334not guns, but electric magnetic propelled bombsling

[@eekenny]

Zero Dawn ending make me 'eager' for the sequel but Forbidden West ending make me... 'gloomy' .... 😕 knowing the level of threat for the final game. Poor Aloy.

[@omaralqau9008]

Aloy will kick its a$$

[@Landis963]

Hm. Aloy was able to push a firmware update to Alva's Focus. I wonder if they can do something similar with APOLLO access, perhaps over a wide area with MINERVA's capabilities. Would throw societies with Focus access for a loop if nothing else.

[@scudsturm1]

oh man, i love this moment, when erend realizes what Hephaestus did

[@DDragon1226]

2:02 that eye rolling and head tilting should be a great source for meme

[@nulnoh219]

You know what, I kinda want a USB drive big enough to use as a staff.

[@abelingaw5070]

Hades is the blacksheep, Hephaestus is the emo. 😂😂😂😂

[@ricardobrands9736]

I love the robotic typical dutch dude pronouncing english voice everytime she does the master override :P

[@Alphapkmn]

Surprised they chose a male voice for Demeter, when Demeter is a FEMALE in the myths.

[@jamesbuchanan4414]

The AIs are genderless. Sex is meaningless to them

[@PrestigeLearning]

Sounded androgynous to me ... possibly even a distorted female voice. Maybe it should've recited some of the poetry it coded into its flower-triangles

[@theyincorporated5711]

It could be because the Subordinate functions weren’t originally designed to have personalities like Gaia so the engineers gave it the base voice that all the other sub functions have. Frankly I’d question it if they did give DEMETER a female voice because it to me would show that someone on the Zero Dawn project put needless effort into it as the world was being annihilated outside

[@jinx1987]

What if the original Apollo ai is still out there and since it’s data is empty it’s new priority is to gather as much history as it can to fill it’s databanks

[@carldoromal1117]

Thats a good theory

[@giuseppejoseph8890]

I wonder if Aloy will die just like Elisabet did in the next game. They both seem to mirror each other in terms of actions and priorities. I can totally see Aloy giving her life so that everyone else could go on living.

[@mr.shneeblie5330]

Aloy got pretty dang lucky that the 3 subfunctions that are still “alive” (other than Hephaestus) are all within reasonable travel distance. Also, now that they have a copy of Apollo from the Odyssey, I really hope by next game (if there is a time jump, which could only be a few months max but still) they will have more advanced technology.

[@charlie7mason]

Lucky yes, but also makes sense because they would try to find the closest processing facility large enough to hold them and with a stable connection. Since they were also not hostile, they would have no reason to run any further. After all, they were all just chilling in their hideouts without harming anyone directly. Hephaestus on the other hand found his natural home to be in his own cauldrons and used their network to move around believing it to be safe enough to isolate itself to but also close enough to control construction of 'deranged' machines that would help it quell human 'hostility' at the central location for Zero Dawn. No need to be at the other end of the world if the HQ want to protect or attack is close by.

[@ThemurOremor]

40:30 apollo is there? I counted 7 subordinate functions, but if you look closely there are two missing in the spinner.

[@kristoferdiaz1114]

Hades and Hephaestus are missing. hades was deleted and hephaestus was released to help with the zenith

[@ThemurOremor]

@@kristoferdiaz1114 ohh it's true thanks bro!!!

[@notthisnow589]

Apollo had a copy with the Zenith so after they were defeated probably Aloy took the copy with her

[@glennvanvliet3192]

But how did Artemis and eleuthia get back? Did the Zenith have them?

[@jonathon.colman]

​@@glennvanvliet3192I would assume so

[@alejandroevl5890]

If we analyze this situation: aloy is the mother of GAIA and the grandmother of the other functions, including ELEPHENIA that is the mother of all humans, special the noras SOO that means aloy is the mother of the noras goddess. Even the grandmother of the winds , water , animals and all the planet

[@Fikrikool]

I would have loved it if the AIs kept their individual personalities and stayed with GAIA.

[@XenoRaptor-98765]

When the next horizon story/ game comes out will beta have a wardrobe change and her own fighting style?

[@PonTran194]

i think so and it should be for her to have a higher chance to survive.

[@XenoRaptor-98765]

@@PonTran194 and think about of all of the fan fictions and fan art that will coming out about who or what beta will be. For starters beta should have her own style of both hair and clothes since everyone can tell both aloy and beta apart.

[@froilanflorentino1252]

Beta is more of a "girl in the chair" type of person. Her knowledge should be enough for her to prepare from expected dangers.

[@ricardobrands9736]

@@froilanflorentino1252 You might be able to train her and with a sun stone she will evolve in Ciera

[@TevyaSmolka]

i was hoping we would talk to the other functions.

[@attilakovacs5040]

Honestly i want to have the full satisfaction and that only will be done when GAIA gets whole again and will make Aloy some sort of ship with a jump drive so she can go for Zenith and eliminate them to their last traces. Imagine,GAIA,utilizing NEMESIS and HEPHAESTUS,or being able to maybe absorb a copy of HADES......those sons of bitches would get curb stomped by their combined war machines.

[@Eat_shit--die_mad]

I think Nemesis will be defeated by aloy empathizing with its pain allowing it to heal from the pain it suffered

[@PRchris13]

My theory is hephaestus will die or get controlled by Nemesis in the third game .. we need a third game with the focus of we fighting robots so it makes sense hephaestus escaped here As for how are we gonna get hephaestus… Syelens said it .. with Apollo knowledge we could achieve a copy of hephaestus So maybe HFW dlc is us making a hephaestus copy and stopping the infestation with robots In the third game either the old hephaestus dies or gets taken over by Nemesis

[@tychner4959]

Watch hades come back and save life or something

[@AD5550-r7g]

I've been doing side missions and upgrades for the past 3 weeks to avoid doing Singularity. Sadly, I finished it and now have nothing to do. Sigh

[@anthoniG]

I've restarted on NG+ so a certain event has not happened yet ;)

[@Nighthawke70]

Bring back Travis Tate as an virtual assistant?

[@Killermudkip1]

Every time I listen to the hades cutscene I think he sounds so…tired. Defeated. Like he’s at the point where he’s begging for the release of death.

[@astephens3600]

All that's left is to capture Hephaestus. And we don't need Hades since he's dead.

[@joguterro8142]

What if they recreat Hades, but whit new order to kill whatever treaths gaya or subfunctions , like, create him to kill nemesis or something like nemesis in the future

[@astephens3600]

@@joguterro8142 I do not know if he will ever be strong to kill namesis. But it is a good thought.

[@petejp6189]

So from what I understand Nemesis signal did develop all sub to gain sentence?

[@lordrald09]

This or they developed naturally after severing their connections to GAIA. Remember, these subordinate functions are still coded like a normal AI like Cyan (AI from the frozen wilds dlc).

[@Mrbluefire95]

It’s not explained fully, mainly because of how different Hades, or even Hephaestus behaves in comparison to Poseidon or Demeter. It makes sense to me that Nemesis targeted Hades specifically, and then the others barely escaped. Only Hephaestus adapted to being on its own, which is why it became incredibly difficult to capture. The others captured in this game did not, living in a state of constant suffering and welcomed their return to Gaia.

[@petejp6189]

@@Mrbluefire95 hmm sound reasonable since the time signal struck only Hades is wake up and overide thing the other just escape because of Hades luach a virus to corrupted code that Sackle other sub

[@hansalanson3497]

@@lordrald09 they're individually already more advanced than CYAN, which itself was edge-cutting for its time, at least HEPHAESTUS is anyway

[@froilanflorentino1252]

@@hansalanson3497 Of course, they have wider capabilities than CYAN, each of them can affect earth on planetary scale after all. CYAN's expertise lies on Catastrophe suppression and machine management. It can prevent Yellowstone eruption for 4272 years without human aid. I wish Aloy would find a cauldron to be her new vessel. She's also isolated from the information about old and new world so Gaia could help her.

[@mspionage1743]

Love Aether's voice

[@CAlexRPG]

I find it unfortunate that Varl is the only Nora to ever lay eyes upon their "Goddess" and he already knew what she really was. I'd pay full retail price for a new game where Gaia gets transported to the Nora birth mountain where the matriarchs can see and react to her.

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

Horizon has the best story i have seen in a game in years.... and havent played horizon.

[@kyle2931]

I may have no choice but to get a strategy guide for this someday. I can get so far into the game before I end up having to restart.

[@voctul]

this game is phenomenal

[@somerandomdudeonline637]

I'm hoping in horizon 3 with the Artemis function we could play a type of minigame or something similar to where we would have to do a puzzle and could bring back a animal species of our choosing like giraffes or sharks

[@doubt3430]

Poseidon: meh ok

[@thecommentguy9380]

"Yey, take me back to mommy" -Poseidon

[@obsidian465]

@@thecommentguy9380 nah its more like demeter

[@Aerothick]

I remember that I somehow first recover Demeter, then Aether, then Poseidon. Let me tell you that this is a fn mistake. I like to explore the game and do everything you can do. Like collectibles, sidequest before main quests so it was rather hard without ability to breathe underwater. I hope there will be a NG+ soon. I also missed scan of Corruptor because at the time I was just thinking of killing them..

[@AVHD2]

I know it was the old antagonist, but I still feel like HADES could’ve done so much more

[@benm5970]

We still need to get the most important subordinate function of them all Chicken God

[@chasealan2166]

What are we ever going to do without Lance Reddick as Sylens in part 3? 😢😢😢 I’m sure the next actor will do well but he will be so missed he did so well as him…made me hate and like him at the same time so well haha

[@Mac12366]

Ugh, I forgot how that golden hue made Gaia's teeth look awful.

[@Trxshgxy]

Not sure why they didn’t call Minerva Athena instead like every other one is Greek mythology why isn’t she

[@Seven70307]

Dinosaurian Earth Robots VS Synthetic Alien Robots? Let's Mothaf***in' GO.

[@vrinnmetagen]

weirdly feel bad for hades.

[@glycrixe]

20:05 23:08 26:30

[@john90392]

I just wanna know why the subfunction wall doesn't have them all listed post game, yet the cutscene does. Also, why can't Alloy whistle & roll anymore? Smh. 😔

[@anujkalra6145]

I wonder who will play Sylens in the new game!

[@PatrickWDunne]

"Sarcasm...detected" lmao

[@PetersQuizz]

Idiot detected lmao

[@timchau8853]

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[@holyholyMariaofthesouth]

Aloy talk to Hades like i talk to ai model nowadays