Horizon Insider Tech Talk: AS3X Programming Overview - Part 3 of 3

[@BE60IFR]

This IS AN EXCELLENT 3 part series! Thank you! As another has commented, very easy to understand and contains the information we need to setup!

[@keithbinder1169]

Thank you for this video. The 16 part series left a lot to be desired. Your hands on showing what the adjustments actually do to the plane clears up a lot of questions.... well done.

[@TimBleazard]

Best explanation of gain, heading hold and priority I've seen.

[@stevecoggins2591]

Great job guys. This is what a lot of guys needed.

[@Gary1H]

I’ve been using the AS3X 7350 in two nitro planes for a while. Love the as3x system and I find it’s a breeze to setup on my iPhone with Bluetooth. One thing that some may not be aware of is that there is an 8 channel on the 7350 or a 10th channel on the 9350 which is AUX 3. It’s considered a “ghost” channel and I use it to control my three way toggle switch for flight modes. This keeps the 7 channel ports on the 7350 open for servos or as I use an optical CDI ignition kill switch on the 7th channel with my plane with flaps.

[@goaheadmakeourdayscooterpe9644]

Thanks for the actual step by step using a model and showing results for us new to this technology,do more please for us new to this.

[@alanbier]

Excellent video series. I was going to return an AS3x receiver I purchased - but now gonna dive in.

[@michaelcuthbert6956]

Thanks guys. A great explanation of priority gain, something I have been trying to get my head around for a while.

[@gregsmith-em8ir]

I agree this video is helpful. It got me closer to bright but I still had to call Horizon and speak with a tech support person. I'm glad I did as my specific issues could not have been solved without expert help. The system is impressive when it works, but getting it to work can be a challenge. If you are stuck and fighting with the software as I was, call for help.

[@Mrtcoltpilot56]

Explained a lot. Flying for 50 years and just now getting into gyro use. AR9350 which I believe has been discontinued. MIG-29 and should maiden next week.

[@vittoriodc119]

Thaks for explaining! IT was useful!! For the behaviour illustrated at 18:40 timeline, can a Ail - Rud mixing help to avoid it?

[@406life]

I crashed my airplane do to miss information and not understanding the as3x thank you for this video series. I fully understand what everything means now.

[@alanbier]

Now having dived in to my new AS3X receiver one thing I'd like to see - As I am understanding it, the dual rate function on the app is linked to the Flight Modes. These I think should be unlinked. Like, maybe you want to fly with the AS3X disabled, say flight mode 1, but still take advantage of dual rates on a different switch. So I'm setting up dual rates on my transmitter and will have that on a different switch and set the gains and priority on the app. so far it seems to work ok and not cause a problem, but it is a little weird.....

[@davidbrown2806]

Looks like the NX transmitters and the new receivers have changed everything you showed here. Is there an update coming ?

[@TimBleazard]

What about setting up safe select on this. Loads of videos about as3x but how do you setup safe select and assign a switch etc?

[@kathrynsnow6073]

Tim Bleazard If you get an explanation or video regarding switch can you please share

[@corvairchris82]

You showed adjusting either Rate or Heading independently, can both be applied at the same time and if so what is the effect.

[@bernfranfrancis3012]

When you are talking about heading rate on the rudder, what if you mix the ailerons and the rudder together so the rudder moves when the aileron stick is moved in a turn. Will the heading on the rudder stop the turn or will both surfaces then work together?

[@horizonhobby]

We will send this to the Spektrum team and see what their response is. Stay tuned! - Kyle

[@trickmustang1994]

That's a good question Francis. I was wondering the same thing.

[@horizonhobby]

Okay, so if you do the aileron to rudder mix in the transmitter, anytime the aileron or the rudder stick is moved, heading hold will turn off on both Roll and Yaw. If the mixing is done in the application the input for aileron will only turn off roll and the input for rudder will only turn off the yaw heading gain.

[@bernfranfrancis3012]

Thank you for the quick reply and your answer is as I suspected, but wanted someone else to confirm. I remember one of the club members putting in Yaw Heading in programing and as you said in the video, it just kept flying straight when he gave input to the ailerons, crashing the plane. So from your answer then by programing/using heading rate/hold in both Yaw and Roll and then mixing in the transmitter you have the best of both worlds.

[@williewonka1970]

I have the Carbon Cub and I'm setting up AS3X in it. Your video helped me a bunch but the motor controller beeping is distracting to most people. Next time plug a battery into receiver and unplug the motor controller. Your viewers will thank you I'm sure

[@wtfmimshag]

Brilliant. Ali does such a good job of conveying these concepts. Have to laugh when I see all of the old school guys raging against this tech. They must enjoy rebuilding planes more than they enjoy flying them.

[@joefagan9335]

Is it possible to play with AS3X programming on an AS3X enabled plane (like Timber X) inside RF9?

[@patcarletto7310]

Can you make the same adjustments through Bluetooth as you can using a laptop?

[@anthonysmith5979]

So do I bind first before programming using the bluetooth programmer

[@horizonhobby]

Yes.

[@genes6703]

Hi, I am programming my ar636. When I set it up with telemetry in the transmitter so that I can adjust the gains during the flight am I able to use the roller knob for this. I have a DX8 it only adjust the gains with the roller wheel, not the knob. If you know please let me know. thanks

[@horizonhobby]

Gene, we just forwarded this to the Spektrum team. Stay tuned! - Kyle

[@horizonhobby]

With the original silver case DX8 the gain can be adjusted from the Knob. In function mode go to the Mix Menu and select knob as the master and whatever channel is selected in the AR636 to adjust gain as the mix to channel. See the following video for setup information. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJTClmV7btasbLs

[@mikeworth6404]

@@horizonhobby I'd say that most of us that really want to program the AS3X in a responsible way have seen John's videos many times. A couple sayings for you to consider. First, Easier said than done. Second, a little knowledge is dangerous. Understanding the concepts is not a problem, executing them is. A demonstration at the field by one of the guys that actually determines the gains in flight for the different planes would go a LONG way in calming our nerves in trying to do the same thing. The DX9 is capable of 5 flight modes for air and 10 for sail planes. I imagine that it's similar to the other DX transmitters. I really hope you guys can do this for all of us nimrods out here.

[@ibsilly4u568]

Ok so im setting up a as3x receiver when I get home is the heading gain will it work like safe and hold were I set the plane at its for an fpv build on a timber 1.5

[@horizonhobby]

Unfortunately, no. Heading hold is NOT safe. Heading hold will attempt to keep the plane "heading" a specific direction. Also, if you were to change from a non-heading hold flight mode to one that has heading hold (during flight), the plane would then lock into that position and try to remain "heading" that way.

[@petercyr3508]

Wow this helps alot. Did I miss it or do you set up the TX wing and tail type to match what you put in the RX?

[@keithbinder1169]

Set it up to match what the receiver input was.

[@BCJ725]

Hello HH. This series is nice BUT it would be even nicer if you could do a similar series based on using the PC instead of the app. (You may have heard that the app is REALLY problematic and does not work well. Everyone I know has ditched the app and uses only their computer.)

[@ironmover5800]

Great info ,

[@stevegubala9429]

can i leave the blue-tooth plug into my receiver once i am all done programming and fly like that

[@horizonhobby]

Steve, yes, but only if you are using one remote receiver. If you have two remote receivers plugged in, it basically "shorts" the system.

[@lextek595]

How can a file that is emailed be loaded into the app in IOS?

[@gpxrp7520]

we need a cg video!!

[@organgrind]

The relationship between Tx and Rx is NOT clear. On an AR636 for example, what IS a six channel rx? how many actual channels exist ? six ? can you run six active channels plus Flight Mode plus Gain adjustment ? How do you run flight modes from the tx ? which channel ? why is there apparently no facility to upgrade the apps ? I'm running an early version because there seems to be NO upgrade option. Lots of questions and for some reason I am getting NO ANSWERS. BTW, I'm a fan of AS3X, more or less the only one at my club, but I can't sell the benefits of the system because there is still so much that I don't understand and there seems to be very little support or education. The 'manual' supplied with new receivers is insultingly basic, and utterly FAILS to explain obviously vital questions. There should be a downloadable book by now. Are people actually being paid for sitting on their hands? I've invested in several of these receivers and am... frustrated shall we say.

[@christianbaan7000]

Graet thanks

[@twistedsd]

So, is heading hold SAFE select

[@horizonhobby]

No, but that's a great question. Heading hold doesn't take into account the original flat/level position as a SAFE enabled receiver will. It ONLY accounts for the aircraft position when that flight mode is selected. So, if you are upside down and switch from a non-heading hold flight mode to one with heading hold, it would fight to keep the plane UPSIDE DOWN. Does this make sense?

[@GRW3]

Could not see numbers on the screen.

[@gregkienle3378]

I happen to think a lot of inexperienced flyers not familiar with these 'helper' systems consider them as anti-crash devices. Gyro systems are not a substitute for learning proper flying technique. There is your disclaimer.

[@mark-e-tect5774]

I thought you were going to set up three flight modes. So much talking, which is good, but you never completed the tutorial on setting up the off , mid and high settings.

[@horizonhobby]

Basically you have an AS3X off flight mode, a mild AS3X flight mode, and an aggressive AS3X flight mode. There isn't much to show detailing it.

[@skypilot23]

Omg I love to fly but coming from opentx this is chineese