Hornady SST 250 grain Sabot Muzzleloader Performance

[@tomthomas4444]

The expansion your showing is the same I'm getting out of my shock wave bullets. BUT my bullets are several years old and I'm down to my last 6 or 7 bullets. So I believe from what you have found out I will replace them with hornady SST. Thanks a lot saved me a lot of testing. 😊😊😊😊😊

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I think you hit the nail right on the head .It sure seems to me that the Shockwave bullets I used in the past performed better on deer than they do now. I wish I could find some older ones to do a comparison. I think my brother still has some, so I'll ask him. Thanks for watching, I appreciate your insight.

[@beasthunter2591]

I have used Hornady SST s in my flintlock muzzleloaders with 90 gr of FF or 100 gr of pyrodex in my inlines. The twist on my flintlock is 1:48, inline is 1:32. Always group well and have taken many deer with them. I also use 12 ga 300 gr SST for deer in the Midwest. Perform great and shoot about 3 in group at 100 yds. Great video and very informative.

[@ryoung6725]

I hunt in Arizona and Tennessee so I want to shoot something consistent so i recently changed to the Hornandy SST with 300 grains. Most of my shots in Tn are less than 50 yards with my Knight 50 cal. After suffering through two earlier seasons with the PowerBelt 245 grain Aerotips, I got tired of them not making a complete pass through (or even bouncing off on one occasion) on any whitetail deer it hit. So, I switched to the Hornandy SST 300 grains last year before Tennessee opening Muzzle season. Added three pellets instead of two. Got gun sighted in at 100 yards. By the end of the first week, I had taken my buck limit. The first one was at 40 yards, dropped him right there, good pass through and plenty of blood, not that a trail was needed. The second buck was behind my stand at 20 yards. Bam, he ran 20 yards and dropped like a lump of dead meat. Again, plenty of blood due to a complete pass through, but minimal meat loss. No question as to my new go to!! If i ever get drawn for elk in AZ, I wouldn't hesitate to take the Knight for up to 200 yards with the three pellets and these 300 grain Hornandy.

[@nathanhileman3848]

Great video, thank you! You can't beat the performance of those bullets.

[@rodneyhanbaum697]

outstanding information! thank you. I use the SSTs in both shot gun, 20 ga.and 50 CAL. MLS, both TC Encore and CVA Accura,

[@carlcox7332]

I've been using regular Hornady xtp 300 gr pistol rounds with harvester crushed rib sabots. I'm getting under a inch group at 100 yd with my cva wolf and they will drop big 200 pound boar where he stands. Haven't tried on whitetail yet but the ones I've recovered look like a rivet head on ironwork. And they're way cheaper than any of the actual muzzle loader bullets. I just paid 26$ for 50. The 200 grain are only 38 for a box of 100 which are what I use at the range for plinking and getting my scope zeroed. I just bump my powder down to 90 for the 200 grain. The best part of ML is experimenting with different stuff and getting your favorite combination.

[@johnnymccann5607]

hello from the foothills of the blue ridge mountains in north Carolina.when they came out with the sabot so long ago I used a green sabot and still do with a Hornady 44 cal 180 xtp I'm side hammers to inlines 80-100 gr pyrodex . accuracy from good to great,1 inch groups at 100 yards.what few bullets I retrieved we're quartering shots with bullet under hide of opposite shoulder.just like my water jug tests on deer it had massive expansion and vital organs massive destruction..I used outher bullets and lead bullets through years but none as destructive as the 44 180xtp with exception of serria 180 gr jacketed hollow cavity which is equally distructive.easy blood trail.the only bullets in a muzzleth loader I have had it to blow blood as high as my head on a tree behind them. I think might try the sst

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

Hello. I agree, those XTP bullets are devastating. If I can find an accurate load, I would be happy to video a test, especially for folks like you that have taken note of their bullet/rifle combination's performance. I will do some experimenting and see what I can come up with. Thanks my friend.

[@pensnut08]

I got some of the 240 grain hollow points try out (CVA Optima). They ONLY "issue" I've had with the SSTs is it seems to take a bit before the blood trail starts. The devastation on target is great. And the deer go down fast. Just something I've noticed. It was ok when I hunted in the People's Republic of New Yorkastan as there was snow by the time muzzleloader rolled around, but here in the Southeast... Nope lol

[@chasesantiago3176]

I think the hornady sst likes Thompson center muzzleloaders because I’ve always gotten good groups with them.

[@ditchdigger93]

I bought two boxes of the Hornaday 250 gr. SST Muzzleloader bullets recently. I own a CVA Hunterbolt Magnum rifle I bought in a pawn shop a few months ago for $109.00 and I honestly don't think it had ever been fired. Also got a .45 caliber barreled receiver, ram rod, breech plug and ail with the .45 barrel. It had and still does the .50 cal. barrel on it. I own a farm and have lots of room to shoot so I set up some gallon jugs yesterday at right at 300 yards just to see if I could get into the same zip code with this Open Sighted rifle. The only time I'd ever shot it I was limited to 75 yards so that's where I zeroed it in with some Power Belt bullets I had. I was shocked to find that with three Triple 7 FireStar pellets I could aim at the top of the jugs and hit them at the bottom. I'm guessing maybe ten inches of drop and extremely accurate. It would just put one bullet after another in the same place. It is a Magnum Rated rifle so I tried using a fourth pellet twice for a 150 grain equivalent load. Recoil is an understatement but with that load it was shooting about ten inches high at 300 yards. Out of fifteen shots I busted two of the jugs and every shot I fired would have killed a deer with a dead center aim. It has extremely good open sights being fiber optic but still, 300 yards with open sights and hitting? That FireStar powder burns very clean, very little smoke and I did run a cleaning patch down the barrel followed by a dry one twice during shooting but I found this Bullet to be very easy to load even with several shots threw the gun. I'd also like to try the Flex Tip 250gr. bullet in it as they are a solid copper bullet and much tougher and claim good expansion and accuracy. Also about eight bucks per 20 bullets higher priced. Yesterday sure gave me a new found confidence in my $100 rifle anyway.

[@dwaynek.1293]

Love the video. My brother started shooting the federal all copper bore lock bullets last year. He really likes them and they load easy everytime In his CVA optima pro. They offer a new loading technology. They remind me of those huge shells loaded into the breach of artillery guns with powder bags behind them. They have a driving band than engages the rifling only when they are fired.

[@ditchdigger93]

I shot three in my new CVA Optima V2 LR yesterday with just a hundred grain load and they were very accurate. 200 yards.

[@harrycombs2724]

I totally agree with your conclusion on the SST. Every gun has something it likes to eat better. Just like me and most anyone else we don't eat the same thing and neither do our guns. Well stated Sir and as always, Great Video!

[@longstrangetrip3535]

The XTP is not the issue, it's the sabot. Try MMP sabots, you can get them bullet diameter specific.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

You are most likely correct. I was scratching my head wondering why these bullets were spraying all over the target. Thanks for the suggestion. It would be interesting to make another video, and actually improve the accuracy of these bullets because I know they would perform well on deer.

[@dennisst.pierre210]

Yu are so right diameter specific is the way to go

[@lawrencecardente533]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman I have had better accuracy from the now discontinued Hornady 325 grain 47 cal. XTP Mags over the 300 grain 45 cal. XTP Mags.

[@iammee1111]

​@@lawrencecardente533the 325ftx .458 with an orange mmp sabot shoots out of every gun I have tried

[@davidervin8217]

250gr. Bullet. Two white hot pellets and the deer don’t run far!! this was my first year using a muzzleloader. I had done a lot of research about muzzleloader projectiles. I liked the idea of powerbelt bullets but I read they have a-lot of problems with expansion. I hunt in timber so my furthest should would be 75 yards, it is every important to have good blood trails when hunting in thick timber. I shot a big mature doe with these bullets. The blood trail was great and they bullets hit right where you aim. I would recommend these to any hunt that is looking for a good reliable muzzleloader bullet,. I hope this helps someone out

[@savagehunter3739]

I used the Hornady SST for a couple of years in my CVA Optima. The 250 Gr SST is the EXACT same bullet that Hornady uses in their 450 Bushmaster load (verified by a Hornady technician). However, in both my Optima (with 82 grains by weight of Blackhorn 209 @ 2100 fps) and the 450 Bushmaster at 2200 fps, with the 250 gr SST I had a few bullets that resulted in kills, but tough tracking because they did not pass through and left no blood trail. On examination of the bullets, I had jacket / core separation. I switched to the Barnes all copper 250 gr Spit-fire T-EZ for my Optima Muzzleloader and the all copper 275 gr Barnes TSX for the 450 Bushmaster. Now I get great expansion AND better penetration with complete pass-throughs and good blood trails. NOTE: The SST was effective in terms of killing - no deer or hog (with the 450 Bushmaster) ran more than 40 yards. However, I'd rather have a good blood trail just in case I need to track an animal more than a few yards.

[@fatheremmons85]

How much blackhorn you using with the barnes tez? I switched to both of those last year and it seems 62 gr by weight did ok, but i feel my accura v2 could shoot tighter. I'll be shooting tomorrow and trying different charges.

[@savagehunter3739]

@@fatheremmons85 I found the max charge by weight (blackhorn recommended limit) of 84 grain to be the best accuracy in my CVA Optima

[@fatheremmons85]

@@savagehunter3739 how many shots before you run a patch thru?

[@savagehunter3739]

@@fatheremmons85 Even though I can load another bullet without cleaning,I usually run a wet patch through about every 5 shots, an clean (remove breach plug, etc.) every 15.

[@fatheremmons85]

@@savagehunter3739 I'm at a loss with this gun. I bought it new past year but didnt get to really take my time and find what it likes best. I did try a few varieties with nothing really standing out at all. Triple 7 loose powder, white hots, blackhorn, jim shockey pellets and barnes 250 tez. Fast forward to today. I'm shooting the same barnes 250 gr tez and blackhorn. I shot 3 shot groups with 90, 95, 100, 105 110, and 120 gr equivalent, and nothing will group under 2.5 to 3 inches. Nothing. I have never had this issue with any other cheaper bp. I'm wondering if i need ti try a heavier bullet or sell this thing and get a tc. I really mostly great things about the accura v2 but so far im extremely disappointed. I have no idea which direction to go now.

[@carlcox7332]

Also. As far as I can tell, the Hornady xtp are almost identical to the sst bullet just without the red plastic tip. I can't see any accuracy drop at 100 yds and definitely doesn't stop them from expanding properly. I haven't tried them past 100 tho so I'm sure its only to help with ballistics at longer ranges, which isn't an issue here in SE and East Texas. Your rarely gonna get at shot past 100. If I was in Oklahoma or Wyoming or somewhere that's wide open, I would probably opt for the sst instead.

[@JamesLewis-tr4zg]

Great video! I just found the SSTs after terrible results from powerbelt bullets in my traditions buckstalker. These things will put down hogs and deer with no problem. 100gr whitehots get it zipping down range just fine for me. Like I said great video! STAY AWAY FROM POWERBELT AMMO!

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I'm glad the SST bullets worked out for you. Thanks for the advice as well. Hope you have a good season.

[@JamesLewis-tr4zg]

Just a foot note. I only use the 20ga copper brush to clean out the bore. I noticed that I had greater accuracy NOT using a wet patch until I was completely done at the range. I shoot 4 primers only to foul the barrel before hunting. What a difference it has made in groups

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

@@JamesLewis-tr4zg I never though to use a brush on my muzzleloader. That's interesting, and well worth giving a try.....thanks.

[@danielbutcher5836]

@@JamesLewis-tr4zg if it has a removable breach plug, could one theoretically use a bore snake instead?

[@7979Army]

With my Buckstalker I’m using 70gr by volume Blackhorn 209 power and Hornady XTP’s. With my friends CVA Optima V2 he’s using 110gr by volume Blackhorn 209 with the Powerbelt ELR’s. Those do great for him. So it really depends on your set up and what you’re using.

[@rognkidder7413]

Good information and great video. Just a question or two to satisfy my curiosity. First would be interesting to know exact bullet weight before and after firing. Also powder charge and velocity. Keep on the good work.

[@boomerrangerron]

Nice video review with impressive expansion results! I’m still experimenting with my CVA ACCURA V2 and should know well before Fall what bullets it prefers! My old Thompson Center love any 45 cal bullet with a 50 cal sabot. It loved Nosler partitions and shot great accuracy with any 200 grain pellet leadings,

[@danielcurtis1434]

Im not a hunter but I do keep an optima V2 .50 caliber pistol for predator protection. The SST I keep for anything smaller than bear. I have rounds that can take varmints with a .400” 60 grain aluminum bullet. I also have 360 grain cast minie balls. I have hard cast saboted “hornady hard balls. I can literally take any animal on earth with my optima V2. Still having a black powder.454 cassul is just too cool!!!

[@KWayneWord]

Tried all types of bullets in my CVA Staghorn 50 cal and Hornady 250 grain SST are the best. One inch groups at 100 yards and that's on a bad day. I won't use anything else for hunting. Killed a lot of white tail deer with them and haven't had to track them more than 50 yards.

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[@dennisst.pierre210]

My x7 omega loves 240 and 300 grain xtp with green sabot on top of 90 grains blackhorn 209 many white tails went in my freezer with this combo

[@jtoler5498]

Yes sir I been using these for 2 years now and I like them

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Well done. Appreciate the insight & diligence. Looks really good to me.

[@matthewlyness8161]

I shoot the Hornady SST 250 green as well am I best group was 3/4 of an inch at 100 yards with triple seven absolutely love the Hornady SST!!!

[@garyedwards278]

I'd like to see a comparison between a Hawkins with a 1 in 48" twist and an in-line with a 1 in 24" twist for accuracy and velocity with different bullet weights. Good show and thank you.

[@lawrencecardente533]

The Thompson Omega has a 1 in 28 twist.

[@Gokywildcats11]

I am considering these for my cva accura v2 sst 250 with 70 grain of blackhorn

[@benrinehartjr2345]

I shoot TC Encore, have tried all sorts of bullet combinations and have yet found 1 I can push all the way down without knowing if I crushed the pellet. By the way, pellets set on top of the breech plug and loose powder falls down into the breech plug chamber. I am going to try the red tip you like but will never use pellets again. Also why are you using 110 gr. Mine says no more then 100 and the guys also said no more then 100. At 80 mine sounds like cannon going off and the recoil is pretty harsh. Response please. Maybe it's the difference in the firearm. Hmmm.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

Actually I know of several shooters that have used three pellets. The 110 grain loads seem to shoot a bit more consistently in my gun. I am not aware of limiting the T/C Omega to 100 grains, but I could have overlooked something. I don't particularly like Triple 7 pellets because they leave a "ring" behind in the barrel close to the breech, so I tried Blackhorn 209, and it really cleans up well. It produces high velocity with stellar accuracy. The model I have is the Z5 Omega, so perhaps it is somewhat different from the standard model.

[@randyjohnson6845]

Should have tested 250 and 300 grain shockwaves in the blue tip.there bonded and that is for very controlled expansion

[@frankpatton5844]

Try the Hornady American Whitetail 300 grain, I shot a button buck at 15 yards and it slammed it to the ground from a ladder stand...

[@darrenmartens9140]

I tried the SST 250 grain on my traditions pursuit, and I got bad groupings. I switched to 300 grain SST and my groups tightened up at 100 yards. I would like to use the 250s for may be a little longer shots, any thoughts? i used 2 777 pallets.

[@danoneill2846]

I had good luck with the 300 gr XTP Sabot 45 cal

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I saw some 300 grain SST's when I got the 250's. I may do a follow up video with that bullet. My hunting buddy uses them, and has had good results as well.

[@danoneill2846]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman My rifle is a 50 cal Knight , I think I used 2 - 50 gr pellets . They were very accurate . The 240 gr is 44 cal ? that could be the difference .

[@danoneill2846]

I use the 240 gr lots in 44 mag & they work great .

[@JH-ii4xi]

I have heard complaints about the TC shockwaves not expanding fully. I shoot the TC shockwave and have never had any issues personally but I am shooting .45 so maybe that makes a difference? I shoot Hornady ammo in many of my guns and its always proven to be reliable in performance and expansion. I also saw where Hornady released their version of a “powerbelt” bullet. Might be worth looking into.

[@kariking171]

My longest shot on a whitetail was 153 yards with 150 grains of powerdex and 300 grain shockwave, it never took a step .

[@baboonbuttz]

use sst low drag in both ML's H&R huntsman w/ 777 ff 120gr and T/C encore pro w/ 777 pellets 150gr both very accurate.

[@ditchdigger93]

I bought a 15 Round box of TC Shockwaves in a pawn shop the other day. Mine say 250 grain Bonded Bullet and have a yellow Sabot and a Blue tip on them. ( Super Glide Sabots ). Part number 8245. Haven't shot any yet but they sure look like good bullets. Were the ones you had fail Bonded Bullets? I hear a lot of good things about the SST's and I've watched videos where they said they didn't expand either. I'd be tempted to try the Hornaday XTP's. I've loaded thousands of them in centerfire pistols and they Work! Every time.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I think you hit the "nail on the head" so to speak. The T/C Shockwaves I was shooting are bonded, and the SST's were not. I really need to do a follow-up video on this, comparing both bullets side-by-side in one video that shows conclusive proof of my theory.

[@ditchdigger93]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Sense my last comments I've bought a New CVA Optima V2 LR and of course you know that inspires a lot of shooting until you get that ''New Gun Smell'' worn off. I was fortunate enough to have ordered six boxes of the SSTs in 250 grain and three more in the 300-grain loading before the price went up by six bucks per box the first of the year. They shoot great in the Optima as I was sure they would but due to the Artic moving into Kansas It's been too cold to enjoy shooting for a while now. I also bought several boxes of the Berry's 250 grain ''Blue Diamond'' bullets that seem to shoot every bit as accurately as the SSTs. I'd like to see you do a video on the Berry's bullets too. I'm willing to bet they are a plated bullet as that's what Berry's do and probably softer than the SSTs. Would be interesting to see how they react to the same tests you put the SSTs through. I shoot Tripple 7 Firestar pellets because that's what's available in my area. That and the old dirty Pyrodex. I've never even seen a can of Blackhorn 209 and at right at five bucks per (Ounce), don't know if I would buy it if it were. I did buy the Blackhorn 209 breech plug though in case I want to shoot loose powder as I have quite a supply of it on hand. Again, great video and good shooting.

[@jamesholt6032]

Another great video ..!!! Thanks for Sharing

[@seeknknowthetruth]

I still shoot round lead balls out my CVA Hawken 50cal. Unfortunately here in Hawaii, we can only get pyrodex p & rs. I was going to try conicals to stretch out my distance. I'm shooting 50 to a 100 yards.

[@Gokywildcats11]

Nice muzzleloader. How would you rate the z5 out of 10. Is there something out there that compares better than the z5

[@littlewoody5539]

I shoot the same bullet but it’s the 300 sst great bullet .

[@danielbutcher5836]

Thanks for the safety tips. I’m thinking about getting one this year to extend my season. What are your thoughts on using the powder pellets? Any safer? Do you prefer to be able to measure an amount other than the sizes they offer?

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I have used both pyrodex and 777 pellets in the past. They are more convenient in terms of loading, and ease of handling, but I noticed a "burn ring" about four inches or so inside my barrel when I used these propellants. So, after doing some serious scrubbing I actually had to make some patches out of fine steel wool. I soaked them in solvent and worked them through the bore. I finally got the bore bright and shiny again, that's when I switched to Black Horn 209 and I never looked back at the other powders again since using it because it cleans up so easily. I also like the fact that I can load in finer increments such as 120, 130, or 140 grains instead of being limited to 100 or 150 grains as is the case with pellets.

[@danielbutcher5836]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Thanks !

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

@@danielbutcher5836 You're welcome. Glad to help.

[@raymondcava4669]

Great presentation and information thank you

[@johnjenkins2024]

are they not the same bullet with with different tip?

[@kengamble8595]

Absolutely must do the homework, like you're doing, before season opens! 👌 I think you're correct about the shots being a tad bit higher as the barrel gets fouled and the pressure goes up! Sure seems the same with my flintlock anyway! 😊 Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I am seriously thinking of featuring my T/C Hawken, and hunting with it this year. Thanks for watching.

[@danoneill2846]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Do you run a damp patch between shots ? I am new to B P so I just do what the book said to do . I do that every time .

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

@@danoneill2846 I always get the best accuracy when I run a wet patch, and then follow up with a dry patch before loading again. That's actually the recommended way to treat the barrel of any muzzleloader. So you are correct by doing that. Blackhorn 209 is much cleaner burning than pyrodex, 777, and certainly real black powder, and is way easier to clean up after shooting. If you get a chance give it a try, I now only use Blackhorn 209 in my inline rifle. Traditional sidelock rifles won't ignite it, so I use real black powder or pyrodex in my Hawken.

[@chrischiampo7647]

Nice Expansion On The SST 😀😊 Were Did You Find Them

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I found them at a local gun store. They are available in 250 and 300 grain at Midway USA, and Mid South Shooters Supply.

[@danielbutcher5836]

Bass Pro had a bunch in stock when I was there yesterday.

[@michaelkaran7244]

Very well done ! Informative, relative, and understandable. Do you know if the hornady American Whitetail 240gr interlock stacks up to the SST you tested ?

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I have never tried the 240 grain interlock bullet. If I run across some, I'll do another comparison video. I'm always on the lookout for new ideas. Thanks for the compliments.

[@lawrencecardente533]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman My best luck for accuracy and penetration has been with Speer 45 cal. 300 grain Deep Curls (the name may have changed) out of my old 50 cal. Knight Disc rifle.

[@j.r.tidwell3318]

Very good info friend. Thanks for sharing

[@mikeinlutz]

Weigh the black horn 65-70 grains. Shoot the .458 Barnes original in a harvester sabot. Get rid of the volume measure

[@rickdaniska1469]

How much 209 powder do you use in your Omega i have the same i run 120 of 777

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I once used 130 grains of 777, but now I shoot 110 grains of BH 209. I get good velocity, but really like how easy it is to clean up compared to 777, pyrodex, or any other black powder substitute. Two patches gets the bore shiny again.

[@savagehunter3739]

@@CumberlandOutdoorsman Anyone who tries the Blackhorn 209 will never go back to using pellets again because of how clean burning it is. Plus, for those who also have reloading equipment, you can tailor your loads by weighing your charges (Volumetric "weight" times 70% = approximate weight in grains. So, 110 grains by volume = 77 grains by weight. Montana states that more than 120 volumetric grains (84 grains by weight) does not give any higher velocities since more than that won't burn completely. So, reloaders can accurately WEIGH their loads for better consistency and can dial in by weight just as they would when reloading smokeless powder loads.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

@@savagehunter3739 Once again, Thanks for your insight. It is obvious that you are an experienced shooter. Thank you for the helpful info.

[@te243win7]

I prefer not to have lead peppered through out my meat. I only use solid copper projectiles for my muzzle loaders and hand load rifle cartridges.

[@tcburgess2939]

This is pretty common with what’s I’ve seen with the shockwaves..they are actually made by hornady. And said to be the same bullet as the sst just repackaged. But your tests shows different..I also know the hornady xtp is a great choice. And the Barnes series of bullets all work very well! Nice looking omega btw. I have 3 omegas myself. Try the 250 grain xtp that are .451.. if I remember correctly the 240 grain xtp is a .429 bullet.. thus requiring a thinner sabot. Usually the thinner the sabot the faster it can fall away in the air. Causing better accuracy.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

I never knew that these bullets (T/C Shockwave) didn't expand the way I wanted them to. That's the reason for the tests, and so I decided to share my findings in a video.

[@savagehunter3739]

The 240 gr Hornady XTP MAG bullet (Stock # 45220) is .452 diameter and can be used with the Black sabots. The 240 gr XTP bullet (for the 44 Magnum pistol) is .429 and can be used in a 50 Cal Muzzleloader with the Harvester GREEN sabots, which are THICKER since the .429 diameter bullet is undersized compared to the .452 diameter of the SST muzzleloader bullets.

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

@@savagehunter3739 Thanks for the information. I still have several XTP's , so I will definately try some different sabots. The ones I have currently have a yellow sabot, which is most likely the cause of my accuracy problems. I appreciate the insight, and you sharing your knowledge. That's why these videos are so important. It gives us hunters a chance to share our experiences, and could really help someone struggling with their equipment.

[@eco-beehive]

Fantastic. Good hunting

[@iammee1111]

The shockwaves and sst are the same thing!

[@CumberlandOutdoorsman]

No they are not. After extensive testing, and analyzing them, Hornady SST bullets expand much better than the new Shockwave bullets do. Perhaps I need to make a side-by-side comparison video to prove my point.

[@pepsiccolausa8857]

Swipe my barrel after every shot

[@upperroomtoo]

What velocity are you getting?

[@matthewlyness8161]

Out of my wolf with 777 100 grain I was getting 1930fps

[@tcburgess2939]

Also if your interested a friend of mine tests all sorts of bullets from his muzzleloader here’s a link if you want to check it out rchs61.org/completecapture.htm