Hornby Completely Retooled Their TTA Tanker! | Unboxing & Review

[@mikeking2539]

Not all of us want 3 link chain couplings on 00 scale models, re the dodgy coupling, I would simply unclip the hook from the coupling bar, and just check the fit, perhaps it just has not been put in place properly! It really is no big issue! I know that you might not like some of my comments. But on the whole I feel that they are fair.... ... I do like your reviews and they do help when considering a new model!

[@jackstrains4468]

At first I saw the thumbnail and thought you had accidentally responded the tt review😂😂 great video as always sam, nice looking model

[@SamsTrains]

haha the fact that the TT one looks exactly the same just shows how good it was!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@BrewPub]

Those accessory pipes are finely painted and molded. While I lean towards prefering a matt finish, the satin finish and text on the tanker is really well executed. Surprised at how detailed the underframe is.

[@Terry_Fritz]

How refreshing for Hornby to release a model that Sam can praise.

[@bryantan863]

Hornby's new TTA tanker wagon looks amazing. The detail and quality on model are amazing along with being top-notch. It is a pity that your model has a few quality problems but it is still a fantastic model Sam.

[@SamsTrains]

I think so too - a really wonderful piece of rolling stock! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@davidmolin8944]

Hornby really went all out on this retool, would be epic to see them do the same to a lot of their other re releases

[@davidhinks8384]

Nice retooling of a classic wagon. I certainly had one or two of the original back in the day. Glad Hornby has demonstrated they can produce a decent model at a reasonable price at the retailers. Cheers Sam

[@alan_mythicalgnome]

I have always liked the Hornby TTA and have several different liveries. This new one looks very impressive and I'm sure I will be continuing to collect TTAs with these. The detailed underframe makes you look forward to them derailing so they can be appreciated.(Brakedown cranes at the ready!)

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I have a big trayful too - always found them very collectable! haha exactly - let the derailing commence! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Wow these wagons are amazing!! Just shows what Hornby can do when they try!

[@David_Mattox]

Hello again, Timber. I saw that the Class 40 sold for 75 pounds. Please tell me it was you.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - firing on all cylinders this time! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@timbervalleyproductions]

@@David_Mattox Not me unfortunately, if it's the one I saw for £29 or summat it had split box headcodes which are inaccurate for 106 :(

[@azuma892]

They should invest in retooling the Caledonian Pug and Class D 0-4-0s. Little industrial shunters seem to be getting popular these days, will be refreshing to see those basic budget locos reincarnated as top of the range model.

[@SamsTrains]

I think so too - that would be awesome to see! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@christophergarland7936]

I’m conflicted on that. On one hand, yes. Seeing a proper Class D or 264 model would be interesting. On the other hand, their existing renditions have become icons in their own right, despite their inaccuracies, ‘Smokey Joe’ in particular. Retooling them could only work if the existing models stay in the catalogue.

[@azuma892]

They will stay in the Railroad range if this happens. Hornby still have lots of prototypes in both ranges, LNER A1/3, A4, P2, HST, 31, 67, just to name a few.

[@johnblair8146]

This is the kind of model that Hornby should produce for the Railways range every time. They are traditionally the leading manufacturer of of British prototype model railways and there should be an expectation that a Hornby railways model is not an inexpensive model but a fairly priced high quality one. This will allow Hornby to be the leader in model railways as they were in the Dublo days.

[@SeaKing61]

Some of the first wagons I bought were the Hornby Railroad TTAs. They were also some of the first I sold when I found out how nicely detailed wagons could be!

[@linesided]

Hornby's "Sam's Trains" Division is working overtime to avoid further online humiliation :)

[@SamsTrains]

hahaha!

[@sabre0smile]

I can't help but wonder if all that underframe detail is really worth the effort... but golly it does look good doesn't it. The thin etched details add so so much in general.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah true - personally I really appreciate it! If I was buying 20 of them... I'd probably rather they were simpler and cheaper! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@duncanmcgill9752]

If I buy this tanker, I will have to stage derailments to show off the under-detail.

[@davidbarr9343]

@@duncanmcgill9752 Snap!🤗

[@mikeking2539]

OMG the underframe detail is just nuts!

[@hughoconnor9172]

My description would be ridiculous! What is the point of having all that detail which will never be seen??? At normal viewing distance it doesn't look that different from the railroad version and @ £27+ each, who can afford to run a realistic train length?

[@Jimyjames73]

Hey Sam - W😮W @ 0:54 - That was the year I was born!!! Also good to see it has sprung buffers 😊🚂🚂🚂

[@DJ_K666]

Oh blimey, I have 10 of the old ones. These are the kind of wagon that turns up at the bottom of the box and you can never remember acquiring it hehe. Looks like Ill be selling my current ones off to fund a rake of more modern ones. Tbh looking at the quality of it i wonder if a boot has been firmly planted in Hornby's hind quarters. That looks awesome!

[@ItsTrainFun]

Why are tankers so interesting! 😍 I just ordered 3 tankers for my Livesteam Accucraft Victory and I can't wait!

[@SamsTrains]

haha they are aren't they!! Ooh lovely - hope you enjoy! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ernestpayton3114]

Superb model. Definitely looks worth the price visually.

[@davidstrains4910]

Only have a couple of hornby TTA tanker wagons but they are the really old tooled ones, I did recently get a rake of 10 tanker wagons though but they are not these TTA ones, they are actually TEA bogie tankers made by Lima. Personally I wouldn’t mind getting some of these myself, tankers have always been an interesting item of rolling stock to put behind locomotives

[@adamhickey396]

The cow is back!!!

[@SamsTrains]

haha yes!!

[@tobyytlai]

As you speak, the price of a TTA has increased by 18% from £28 to £33 (£99 for a triple pack) at your affiliate link. But it's good to see Hornby release wagon packs instead of one wagon per livery

[@Bugulasy]

Im glad they upgraded this TTA Tanker. Its quite in Evolution! Hornby really did a Great job on that new version of it. The Tanker is Weighty is it?

[@Alpha-oo8]

Solid work Hornby, you did good on this one

[@StormmyStormmy]

Wow! This is a seriously nice tank wagon, I’m not a Hornby fan but I must say credit where credit is due, if they retool the 102 ton TEA wagon’s then I would buy a rake, for a company what flogged the ex Lima mould vault to death they come up trumps this time, thanks for sharing.

[@FormallyknownasE100]

Great review as per. Real shame about the running resistance but nothing a bit of graphite / oil / bearing adjustment can’t fix. Interesting that Bachmann announced a slew of their older ones an announcement or two ago. Definitely need a few for my layout.

[@RichardKuivila1947]

SAM _ Underside is WOW ! . Is a mirror on the sleepers OK ?

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

I think Hornby's did a great job on the wagon Sam, I might get one of these for my layout. Although I'll probably wait until the price come down a little. Cheers Jasper & Willow

[@PeterJewell2]

Wasn't aware of this until your video, thank you. A fair review. Looks impressive. Underframe detail is insane! How does it compare with the Bachmann model? I think I have one Bachmann TTA, but cost prevents the fleet from expanding. Instead I am slowly adding to my fleet of (grey (Shell) or black (repaint)) Hornby TTAs -- the old design. They have many shortcomings, but still look the part as a rake of 10-15 wagons.

[@jamesdunloptrains]

Awesome video today Sam what a really nice looking wagon might have to get some

[@thomasfrancis5747]

Wonder what other liveries they will do this model in and whether there will be multipacks of 3.

[@FerroEquus-262]

Plastic detailing on model trains have finally caught up to brass. 🚂

[@Simon-Davis]

Credit where it is due, Hornby can produce some cracking models when they try. Its not quite up there with the very best on offer these days, but it is still very good indeed. I'm hoping for a future release a bit more relevant to my modelling period so I can buy a few more of them.

[@harrytodhunter5078]

Rare W for Hornby! Great retool and the price is not too bad considering its a bit larger than some Rapido wagons that are similarly priced.

[@gavin18787]

Can't say that doesn't look amazing. Feel Hornby could pull a good trick here and do a railroad one. Keep the vastly improved tank without the seams but give a different chassis without the sprung buffers and less under frame detail. Lovely but you don't see it 90% of the time so would give better scope for some affordable rakes. Hats of for them going all in though. Tricky model to do with the amount of variation over the years but a very good effort.

[@DennisLora2001]

Very good rating Sam and excellent review 15:30

[@darreno9874]

It's obvious that Hornby can produce good stuff but it's a shame they didn't go the whole way with good couplings and better rolling. But it's good to see Hornby getting it right

[@edwardlawrence9916]

Have you considered doing a video on what the ideal finish for a model is? I know it is subjective, but everyone seems to prefer a satin finish to the often more prototypical glossy finish. Maybe you could get the airbrush out and try applying various finishes to a model and compare the results.

[@chasesrailwaylinesrr6447]

To me it seems like hornby cares more about their TT range than they do their OO Railroad or Railways range, It also doesn't help them that Bachmann and other UK companies are making better models, This tanker is the one Exception

[@SamsTrains]

They've certainly invested a lot more in TT recently - whether wisely or not we'll see! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@lindaoffenbach]

Fair review Sam. H certainly has stepped up once again with this one. A faulty coupling is of course an unforgivable sloppy miss which is a pity. How does the green compare to BP's corporate colour standard. We were wondering if BP have exchanged the RAL or Pantone colour with H, as well as for the TT version as we can remember. The camera can obscure reality for us viewers of course but it seems that the green is missing a dab of blue part percentage comparing to pictures of BP. Anyway, a good well overall step up by H. Cheerio.

[@sam-ej7sq]

Hey sam, since you have dabbeled in some other types of model trains, how about you review a marklin starter set maybe? Id love to see that

[@scottfw7169]

Oh, thought it was going to be for the Terran Trade Authority. _(a feature in a 1970s series of sci-fi art books with a story using the art)_

[@wolf-dogs1993]

You should do another cheap train set review I like those ones the best

[@chrissouthgate4554]

Do the newer models with NEM tension locks require the sprung buffers to allow turning on 1st radius curves? Because of course, they have less range of movement than the older D type.

[@pokemontrainermichael5551]

That's a Kool looking tankers, make me want one now

[@kclassproductions]

Somehow, I don't own any of them! great video Sam.

[@andrewcutts3197]

Just the thing for a topping up a refuelling bay, but which livery do I need?

[@JustinFrazier_360]

Nice job on the review sam

[@stephensimmonds184]

Surely the old tooling will soldier on in the Railroad range, two different markets, two distinct products.

[@williamsquires3070]

I think Sam needs some 33,000 gal. ethanol tankers in HO scale. 😅

[@OlivierGabin]

The price is in the same ballpark as the new Dapol tankers, not extraordinary one way or the other. With all the details, it's justified. Especially with sprung buffers ! (Get it Bachmann for your GBP 45 Presflo and your GBP 50 Dance Hall ?). To be petty as usual, I can say that Roco put kinematic couplings in their wagons of this size... For the axles, you have a tool by DCC Concepts, axle bearing reamer, you can use to solve the stiffness problem. I have one, it's an efficient and easy to use tool (ref. DCF-BR2).

[@NWRJ_WStudios]

14:17 lol, that was something

[@blatherskite9601]

With that beautiful green, yellow and white, and those lovely warning and data plates, would you weather this to look all mucky?

[@modelrailwaynoob]

They look great

[@JerseyBill-x9r]

I think you were a bit generous in your grading but your dance after all, lol. The coupling bothered me more than you, things like that are very aggravating for me but that may be a personal problem due to my former job. Great video, Jersey Bill

[@SamsTrains]

haha thank you - always appreciate feedback! Yeah the coupling was annoying to be fair! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@azuma892]

Sam, you must be very good at French! You took the liberty to nap in class because you knew everything the teacher was saying. Am I right haha. :)

[@azuma892]

I used to sleep in most English lessons, fully understand your predicament!

[@SamsTrains]

On the contrary - I didn't know any of it and didn't care to learn. I deliberately failed (or cheated on) all of my French tests, and dropped the subject as soon as I was able! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@darreno9874]

​@@SamsTrainsmy record for being sent out of French class was before I even got in the room. 🤣

[@Alfiegould7822]

I did French and German and I just looked at locos on eBay the whole lesson

[@mikeking2539]

@@SamsTrains lol.... I did not take well to French either!

[@drevo50]

It’s a brilliant model, makes the quite old Bachmann version look crude.

[@noahstrains1160]

Please review the new 009 double ended loco by bachman

[@carolinecleaveley-q1r]

Hi Sam. Hope Lewis did this one as well as tt one. Caroline

[@andressanchez4517]

Rake of those at DFR

[@Taggart00]

Aren't the 6 wheel milk tankers made by Dapol?

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Yep Dapol do make some 6 wheel tankers, if you're talking about the two maroon ones featured in the intro they are Hornby Railroad ones 👍🙂

[@SamsTrains]

Yep they're Hornby ones! I think they may have come from a train set/pack, can't quite remember though! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@michaelwhite8031]

I really like this !

[@mikeking2539]

Errm are not the 6 wheeled milk tankers made by Dapol and not Hornby? Can't see them on the Hornby website! And I do have a Dapol 6 wheel milk tanker, and the reason they derail is down to the centre alex not been made to "float" as it were, so as to give some compensation,.. my example 'rocks' on te centre axel, (Or did till I sorted it)

[@jkirk888]

A lovely model. However this again is a model covered adequately by another manufacturer. There are loads of other prototypes out there that could be created in 00.

[@dretety1]

Sam, please review some more "lionel" products, we all need a good laugh 😂

[@Cape_Cod_Steve]

👍👍 Nice one overall . 🎉

[@martinpattison1567]

They look amazing and well-finished. The Nem couplings are a good idea, but why must they stick out so far? To me, that spoils any model. The gap between the buffers is huge, they would not even touch The worst ones are on the Terriers. So why make them sprung?. Martin. (Thailand)

[@Furnessrailwayk2]

Sam heeree's Edward!!!!

[@Alextrains502]

Hi Sam

[@modelrailwaysandme]

They have the money to retool a wagon but not the 0-4-0 tank engines?

[@michaelbenton4117]

Back in the day , may be 1990's I purchase 3 in a pack for a £10.00. But of cause the detail is nothing on the one you have

[@joshuaW5621]

Guess whose in Glasgow today.

[@jimmeearle]

Oh it’s BP, be careful that tanker doesn’t explode and leak oil all over your layout Sam

[@1471SirFrederickBanbury]

I have to say that for what it is, its just too expensive. I could buy quite a few ALL METAL, easy to build wagon kits for such a cost. It's at least nice to see that Hornby improved their coupling hook tooling, including the little secondary hook at the top thats extremely hard to make at home without machine tools. I think it may be useful to run a test with a few printed wagons using: parallel bearings in plastic, plastic pinpoint bearings, Alan Gibson brass pinpoint bearings (they're lovely and cheap too), and unshielded ('open" type) ball bearings (which are amazingly free rolling), to see the difference that it can make, a bit like your test of locomotive bearings. Thanks as always Sam.

[@johnd8892]

Rolling stock is meant to run on a layout. So if the couplings are poor and it has too much rolling resistance then all the detail, not very visible on a layout, is not very important other than to drive costs up. Lucky this is from a less interesting recent era that i find no attraction to modelling. What is going on at Hornby with the pot luck approach to free running rolling stock? So many new releases run poorly.

[@briandesens144]

Awesome video Sam's trains 🚆 😊

[@formidable38]

Interesting to note, on the old version, they used the same (incorrect) TEA label with TEA weights on the 2 axle TTA. Didnt notice that before now.

[@CopperCanyonRailway]

tank cars are a w

[@davidsheriff8989]

Very presentable......

[@DOCTORDROTT]

Shame its made in China and not Kent

[@johneshort]

Just being a little pedantic in reality a tanker should not be coupled to the loco , there should be a van or wagon in between (safety reasons).

[@jasonlee3247]

This is Sam’s channel, not Charlie at Chadwick.

[@johneshort]

@@jasonlee3247 If you review a model for accuracy then it is only right that they should be displayed accurately.

[@PeterJewell2]

Partly true. In reality, one or two barrier wagons might be required, but only for trains hauled by steam locomotives, to minimise the risk of sparks from the chimney igniting the fuel vapour around the tanks. If the train were mixed goods, the tank wagons would be placed a distance behind the engine for the same effect. This wouldn't apply when trains were being shunted, as the risk of sparks was much smaller. Having said that, there are plenty pictures of steam-hauled oil tank trains without barrier wagons, so the regulations were probably more complicated. Diesel/electric locomotives no longer needed to use barrier wagons for oil trains because of sparks, but certain other traffics still required them. Barrier wagons were additional load that didn't generate revenue, so would have been avoided if at all possible. Another possibility, if the oil terminal prohibited locomotives from entering the sidings, 'reach' wagons would be used between loco and tanks to allow them to be pushed into place. It is possible that some photos of diesel-hauled trains include a reach wagon that would be indistinguishable from a barrier wagon. So, Sam's train here would not need barrier wagons, but I think it very unlikely that milk tanks would be in the same train as oil tanks!

[@PeterJewell2]

@@jasonlee3247 -- true, but many modellers try to replicate real railway practice to make their model trains more authentic. The research involved can be very rewarding.

[@Cape_Cod_Steve]

​@jasonlee3247 I hope no one gets a look in my basement...as I sit here I'm rocking oo scale 1920's British steam pulling ho American Bakers Chocolate tank car that was still running in the eighties , it's my railway . Peace all 👍

[@Trainsaregreat365]

I'm the 601th like

[@joginns778]

Yet another rip of price for the railway modelers dont these companies realise c there killing their own industry the price is way to high for what you get , I've stopped buying new just cant afford it know more as a pensioner,

[@IainDavies-z2l]

So this Sam guy thinks he knows it all about model railways and loves the sound of his own voice, firstly that is a tank wagon not a tanker that goes on the sea. And why doesn't he build a proper model railway and not that stupid one on the carpet, he has plenty of space to do so. And gets excited about sprung buffers, poor guy.

[@SamsTrains]

They're known as tanker wagons - that's the name of the product. When I have the means to build a proper layout, I will do so. Sprung buffers are a feature that I enjoy. The sound of my voice is preferable to the sound of your winging, but thanks for the feedback! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@IainDavies-z2l]

That's strange, I worked on the railway as Driver for 43 years and they were always known as "Tank wagons".

[@SamsTrains]

Complain to Hornby instead of me then - they, and other manufacturers, have the products listed as tankers. I’m not about to call them something different in the review!

[@kellyashfordtrains2642]

The tank wagon is nice, my third favourite colour, but I don't have room for one. I've uploaded a video on my own channel, showing off my small N Gauge collection in its entirety. Beware! One of the closed vans is a very scary one of Dapol status. You have the Rapido version of this, and you have my permission to scream in terror. It is the dreaded GWR Gunpowder Van, which I braved my own terror of to purchase. Tell me what you think if you're brave enough.

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh well never mind Kelly - that sounds great, I'll have to take a look at that! Thanks for watching, Sam :)