Hornby's All New Class 50 in TT Scale | Unboxing & Review

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

Yours seems particularly jerky at slow speeds where mine in comparison has a really smooth crawl - probably the best of all the TT locos so far in my opinion. Interesting to see the difference between the two though.

[@trainfan5]

@@NewModelRailway1 Not a issue on DC either. My two were both run in on DC before DCC fitting and they were both perfect. Its ironically DCC I've had some issues but nothing a quick track clean couldn't fix in the affected areas.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

@@NewModelRailway1 Possibly but then we're always being told that adding a DCC decoder doesn't fix a bad/faulty model... I can't say I've had mine at top speed very much (the curves are pretty tight on my layout 😅) but from what I remember it didn't seem as fast as Sam's - still plenty fast for what I need though.

[@ThatModelRailwayGuy]

@@trainfan5 That's interesting to know 👍

[@trainfan5]

@@NewModelRailway1 tend to run at all speeds. Slow, medium and fast. My logic being if it’s a good runner on DC, then DCC should be easy. The crawl on my two is better than Sam’s easily. And yes, I agree. On DCC especially with Hm7000, they’re a bit flighty. My Dapol Imperium equipped one is better but on HM7000 it doesn’t half shift.

[@RobNicholson1234]

@@trainfan5 needs a video for comparison?

[@OlivierGabin]

I'm less pessimistic today about Hornby TT than I was six month before. Hornby shows us they are able to produce quality models, like this one. The unknown is if UK TT will gain traction or not on the middle to long term. Hornby have good points for their TT scale which starts from scratch : modern couplings and DCC sockets, and total new toolings. Hope for them they'll get enough customers to keep this range on sale, and develop it broadly.

[@gregmacdonald927]

Jump right in Olivier - the TT bandwagon is going beautifully!!

[@anthknill]

I received my TT-120 class 50 sir edward elgar yesterday. Absolutely stunning model and like you say very weighty too 👍

[@daystatesniper01]

Anything TT gets my vote 100%

[@little_britain]

I have yet to understand why you expect TT scale tp be cheaper than OO. That makes zero sense to me. Engineering a smaller model is harder in many ways.

[@SamsTrains]

The steamers were way cheaper than their OO counterparts, and Hornby managed to sell me this for £124 because I pre-ordered it less than 2 years ago… it’s now closer to £170

[@benbedothu]

@@SamsTrains They were obviously introductory prices. Also, engineering and manufacturing costs have increased by a lot, and since TT stuff is all brand new, obviously nothing previously cheaply created can be used in the process. New OO arrivals one or two years from now will break the 200-250 ceiling easily.

[@joelightrailway2362]

WOW, this class Class 50 in this scale is just so WOW. I seriously need to buy this one complete with MK1s carriages to my train set. Interesting fact of the Class 50 in this livery, there one coming to one of the neatest heritage railway to me and that is the Spa Valley Railway.

[@TrentFalkenrath]

Yay, more tt120 stuff!

[@MarkJT1000]

On the other hand, making things smaller and more compact usually ends up with them costing more due to the technical difficulties in miniaturisation.

[@kalicom2937]

Absolutely. Hornby themselves have said as much - the challenges of making things smaller AND to a more correct scale are, apparently, significant. It is easy to forget OO is not correctly to scale because, back in the day, making British outline in HO was too challenging and expensive. So we get HO track and over-sized stock / locos etc as a result.

[@trainfan5]

Interesting you had issues with performance. My 2 are both perfect runners and it seems the bulk of them are on both DC and DCC. For the money, you get one hell of a model in my opinion well worth the full price.

[@michaelwhite8031]

I've been waiting for this. Thanks for reviewing !

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Michael, hope you like the video! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@michaelwhite8031]

Great review thanks ! :)

[@adamwilliams192]

Very interesting review, Hornby still pushing ahead with TT which I suppose is no bad thing. I would encourage you to try a Dapol N gauge class 50, one of their better mechanisms and I would love to see the comparison.

[@dansmodelrailways7886]

Sam, This model represents 50040 pre-July 1987. After that date 50040 was renamed Centurion. So with another set of etched plates you could pick and choose which era you could run it.

[@xXXH4RR15XXx]

With regard to price, I saw an interview with Richard Lines of Triang who said when they launched TT back in the day it wasn't popular because the price was almost the same as 00 and they had to reduce the margins to a point where it wasn't feasible. Hopefully history doesn't repeat itself. I'd love to get into N gauge and TT but when you see the prices I can't bring myself to spend the equivalent for 'less' model.

[@eurovnik]

I find N is incredibly cheap in the form of Kato bought direct from Amazon Japan.

[@EsotericArctos]

You'll likely find the "brass inserts" are not actually glued in to the model, but are what are called heat inserts, which are heated and inserted into the model, which is stronger than just glue

[@ianjeffery6744]

OK, if a bit lacking in some areas - maybe the slower speed will improve as the model is used more? At least there are some nice Mk2 coaches in the range to go with it!

[@Michaelgoestofrance]

I bought the sound-fitted versions and I'm delighted with them. Both of mine will creep along quite happily under HM7000. Maybe you got a dud? I've had quite a few issues with TT:120 but I'm sticking with it because I love the scale and, it has to be said, Hornby seem to be quite good at providing repair/replacements when there's an issue. Bit of a pain but worth it once you get everything sorted. I don't have any Hornby OO. I wonder if anyone could tell me if the QC issues are similar in that scale?

[@zacsteamlocomotive1800]

the bachmann beau is just release now please do review it sam

[@JulianSaunders]

Class 50s DID do express passenger work - it's what they were built for.

[@Gatherleymodeller.]

Your videos are so incredible. Can you review more British oo gauge locomotives because a lot of other scales and countrie's locomotives have been reviewed by you recently! I still love your videos 😊

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you so much! I sure will review more British OO! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@jackstrains4468]

Awesome video sam! I really love the look of the class 50s, I must have a look at the 00 gauge hornby version.... it does make it shameful to the manufacturers (*cough* EFE rail *cough * )who add absolutely no detail onto their locos in 00 gauge, yet hornby can make a much smaller loco more detailed?! Having said that it's quite a stark difference from some of Hornby's models, as some can be truly awful, but this loco is definately not that! Like I say, lovely loco and great video!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks a lot Jack - yeah this is very impressive! I hear their OO one is very detailed - but I wouldn't recommend it now that Accurascale have one on the way! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@clivedudley5602]

Hi Sam. Excellent review as usual. Just one question, how do you convert your 'star' rating into a 'score' and then 'grade'?

[@PhilBender612]

Sam, speaking of O scale, got any? if so 2 rail or 3 rail? I have yet to see O scale on the channel. 3 rail O scale is what i mostly collect but I do have plenty of HO(american)

[@gmaster5754]

Hey @samstrains I was just wondering if you had thought about doing a review on the cavalax OO class 56 I’ve just seen a review on another channel and thought it would be right up your street looks awesome but I think it needs a Sam’s trains review

[@LNER985]

The TT club isn't dead.

[@aberfordwest4003]

Yet

[@SamsTrains]

No, it's still a thing - but you now get no discount or any other perk of value! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@kimcason8764]

It is to me..! At those prices, I will just stick with my OO set up, Thank you..! 🤗

[@IC-qf7ev]

LIES!!!!1111!!111!!!!1!

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

Yet another great BR locomotive.

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely! :D

[@SkyeSoarer04]

I love the class 50 nice big industrial engines great video sam

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - quite the impressive beasts aren't they! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@carolinecleaveley-q1r]

Hi Sam . I will wait for the gbrf one to come out but thanks for the review. caroline

[@bbej2016]

The only thing i didn’t like on this loco is the shiny wheels.could have been blackened. But great otherwise.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I suppose that would have looked better actually - thanks for sharing!

[@bbej2016]

The Duchess and coaches are out now too in TT120.

[@mkaustralia7136]

Off topic for this model, but Sam is obviously making progress with his constant criticism of droopy running boards on engines from different manufacturers. Rapido’s new S160 release has many features, but straight running board is expressly stated. 😂😂😂😂 (It is a USA type and those may have had a version with stepped running boards - I assume)

[@anthonyaddison7321]

Sam have a good look at the price for new g f engine in n gage 😢

[@eurovnik]

General inflation is based on a basket of goods and services. Cost inflation for specific sectors and products can vary dramatically above/below it. E.g. Wage inflation, commodity inflation, energy inflation are all different. So there's no reason why Hornby's costs might not have increased more than general inflation. More importantly pricing has much less to do with cost inflation than Sam's commentary implies. Companies haven't been basing price on cost+markup for decades. It's much more about what the market can bear.

[@miniroll32]

Crazy to think a TT model could be this well made, be so heavy, and have two flywheels, yet the new 5MT on OO gauge has no flywheel, no diecast boiler, and has quality control issues. I don’t get it…

[@robinbrowne5419]

The plows would be good for clearing lego bricks and other debris off the tracks.

[@blackjockofmangertonpele]

How random! 🎉

[@joek5882]

Sam, as a long time subscriber I think you need to revaluate your "value for money" matrix. When my son and I see a new video we laugh and joke "lets see what model Sam hates today even if he loves it". See, I've been in N scale for over 30 years and the reality is the price is always the same or more than HO. It comes down to labor basically...it's a much more fiddly process assembling smaller models. Be it my model trains, planes or ships, the smaller the model the more expensive it is. You either accept that or you go for the larger scale...so this argument is indeed VALID! While I don't have much interest in British diesels this model is phenomenal in very aspect that one could expect of a smaller than OO scale model train. But your rating was "meh" mostly because of that "value for money" thing. Price is a subjective thing really...how much is the individual willing to pay? I would have paid the money for this model and not look back...spending time enjoying it rather than wondering if I really got my money's worth because usually when it comes to Sam....you never will! 🤷‍♂

[@DTChapman1]

Dare you to try the class 50 in 00

[@-FreeMiner-]

You would of thought looking at this with its details it would be from heljan or bachmann

[@blackjockofmangertonpele]

Again, random and unsubstantiated comment which is neither negative nor positive.

[@finlayfraser9952]

Sam, you are going grey!

[@davidhinks8384]

Great looking model of a beautiful British diesel. Shame Hornby are still overpricing.I think you need a bigger baseboard with longer straights Sam. Can't wait for a TT Bullman. Cheers.

[@Alextrains502]

Cool

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Alex!

[@drevo50]

Terrible slow speed performance. Beats me why they keep pushing TT, other than Hornby's desire to be a monopoly supplier in this scale.

[@benbedothu]

Curiously, every other review shows great slow speed performance. Since housing becomes more and more expensive, so people have to reduce the size of their flats and houses, it's more than reasonable to offer a scale that fits in better in these living spaces but offers the same level of detail as OO. Also, it's finally to-scale, which is also a good enough force to pull in consumers. So TT:120 can be appealing to folks looking for more realistic models, to new modellers, as well as to those who want a more realistic track-to-scenery ratio on their layouts without the numerous problems N scale has. It's no surprise TT is a very popular scale in Eastern Europe, where small flats have been typical for decades. Also, European TT:120 models are roughly the same size as US N scale, which has a huge market, so it's reasonable to believe there is a huge market for TT in Europe as well.

[@guyclark2975]

Hope you are happy now Sam. Locomotion Motion has closed his channel down citing threatening comments of a personally nature following the recent fiasco between the two channels and the way it was handled.

[@andrewsgarage796]

My Minitix Warship in N scales runs much better, Ohh from 1972 not built in China to the chaepest price to Maximize profit Best Regards Andrew

[@jamtart606]

Gonna be honest and say for £150 the fidelity of the detail on that 50 is pretty poor. Zero depth to the moulded detail, poor looking ventilators on the sides and that roof fan vent looks nothing like the real ones at all! Hard pass from me.

[@tonyfearn2452]

great and interesting review again Sam ,BUT I feel your being far too over-generous in giving 4-1/2 stars in level of detail as their are some glaring .glaring faults with the model- firstly- the wheels are far to large in their diameter and should be 2/3 mm smaller, secondly- their are no visible exhaust ports moulded in the roof -their should be 4 that are quite noticeable on the real loco thirdly -the marker light/ headcode box is moulded far to "low " and should be couple of mm higher above the windscreen resulting in less of a pronounced curve in the roof ,and finally the radiator fan should may be painted red and not grey ?

[@paranoidjd1351]

Received mine on Monday and I love it. The detail is crazy considering it's so small and I was almost shocked at the weight. I get the argument that scale doesn't equate to price, but for the price, I think it's a heck of a model. Really impressed!

[@MoleculeMind7]

You don’t love it.

[@gs425]

Sam, why do you think that tt should be cheaper than 00? You really aren't paying for the material costs when you buy a model in any scale. If anything I would expect the results of miniaturisation and less common scale to make the locos more expensive , not less. 00 gauge has a clear advantage when it comes to "economies of scale", scale of course meaning qtys sold. Cheers for an otherwise professional review as always my friend 👍. But I'm not sure that one of those 50 040 prints doesn't look level. The side where its towards the left.

[@eurovnik]

Agreed. Plus the fact that pricing is generally determined by what the market can bear rather than costs+markup these days.

[@gs425]

@eurovnik actually that is also true. Consider what you paid for that phone in your hand compared to its real cost as a perfect example! In fact, any business that doesn't price to market will struggle.

[@Ilmson]

I agree with that. You also have to remember that production here is still in smaller quantities than at OO. As a result, development costs and tool production have to be written off over a smaller customer base.

[@kenfox7917]

Got mine yesterday, runs silky smooth at all speeds, and crawls so smooth you wouldn't know it was moving. Sadly, Sam, you seem to have the totally worst luck when it comes to Hornby models.

[@eurovnik]

It really is a mystery 🤔

[@Ilmson]

Even the paintjob looks on mine a little more brilliant. Maybe they think, oh Sam, he doesn't give good reviews anyway, so save your money and give him the production runaway instead.

[@gamingwithlukeJToH]

if they release a class 37 i might just have to go for one, the mainline freight diesels look absolutely stunning so far!

[@damianinCanadaTT-OO]

Perhaps comparing apples to apples on price might help. A Piko TT120 0-4-0 shunter is £155. The Hornby OO class 50 is in a limited sale and normally about £200 even at the retailers. The initial prices and club discount were well publicized as a way to launch the scale. Probably nearly lost leaders when you factor in tooling. They are irrelevant now. Nothing to do with inflation. Other than that nice in depth review as always. Thanks

[@lukebarber9511]

Interesting bit of trivia about the class 50: it was the first class of locomotive where the whole class was delivered from the start in the Rail Blue livery.

[@andykopgod]

Hornby TT yet again blowing us all away with these superb models, il definately be picking one up, but weve got to keep an eye on these prices, we dont want them running away, success can lead to greed. overall, very impressed.

[@gregmacdonald927]

It’s a super model. If you get one then then dcc sound version is totally worth the extra. It also crawls beautifully!!

[@davidmiller6728]

2 years i had to downsize from OO due to less space. i chose 009 as my eyesight isnt great rather than n. I now very much regret this decision having read your reviews and wish I'd opted for tt120. I must say i think your 50 review is a bit mean. i agree with some others who say that there is no reason why tt120 should be cheaper than oo. the main costs are manufacturing and design and not materials. still a good review though.

[@bryantan863]

The new Hornby TT Class 50 diesel locomotive is a quality model because of its top notch mechanism and it is similar to the OO scale model Sam. Overall, it is a quality model.

[@primaveranz]

Also, unlike the OO model, it isn't narrow gauge ;)

[@Benjamin.Jamin.]

I'm loving TT! But those constant price rises suck 😢

[@lukejackson8741]

A passing grade! Will say I’m impressed with this tbh, for scale and price it doesn’t really leave anything to be desired and the scores show it

[@tbrooke3016]

I do love how the 50s have a slightly shocked/worried expression at the front

[@1987TimeLord]

Mine arrived on Monday though I'm going to wait until the end of the week before running it as I have the green version coming as well. Makes sense to run them in at the same time. A good comprehensive review as always, Sam. I would like to ask out of curiosity, how big is that test track board of yours? Thinking of building one myself separate from my modular main TT layout.

[@MisterHampshire]

I think it fair to maybe point out that Hornby's OO 50 has to be 20 years old, or very nearly, so is arguably more expensive than it needs to be due to that: Hornby must have recouped its tooling costs by now. As to the TT, well, it's a brand-new tooling and with the level of detail I wonder if it's fair to try and compare the OO price which is arguably too much compared to a smaller yet brand-new tooling TT scale? Where I might find a minor criticism is the 'headlight'. They tended to be more high-intensity and would have produced a whiter light than perhaps a more 'orange' incandescent lamp. Whatever though I think Hornby have made a good choice for a loco here, even if you put aside my bias with the 50 vying with the 52 Western as my favourite loco. It offers a good range of liveries for the decades too - original BR blue, large logo as here, then the versions of the awful Network South East monstrosity, and the green Edward Elgar livery (50 007 of the 1980s).

[@eurovnik]

Could it be that an O gauge diesel costs more than a OO gauge one because of far lower demand and worse economies of scale? And little to nothing to do with the size of the product?

[@SamsTrains]

There are many factors - this may be one of them. But an O gauge diesel simply is far more expensive to produce and ship than a OO or TT scale one - they're more complex in their detail, contain larger and more expensive motors, heaver so much more material, larger so far higher shipping costs... the point was that models in different scales *are* vastly different in what they cost to produce. Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@eurovnik]

@@SamsTrains Those input cost differences are trivial. Please educate yourself about modern manufacturing, distribution, marketing and pricing rather than constantly sounding off from a position of ignorance.

[@SamsTrains]

They are not trivial - and if they are, support your claim with evidence. When Hornby hiked up their prices recently, they cited increases in material and shipping costs as the reason - if these factors are trivial, why did customers see such a dramatic price increase as a result? I assure you that I do not speak from a position of ignorance.

[@lukejackson8741]

I’d agree with the missing speaker, but as it’s HM7000 compatible, where a sound decoder comes with a speaker, I don’t see why it should have one tbh

[@BrewPub]

I think the price may be reasonable if one considers that Hornby had to have new tooling made and this is a niche scale.

[@IainDavies-z2l]

DP2 was the prototype for the class 50s, they are not like a Deltic in any way.

[@davidstrains4910]

The original plan for the 50s if it had gone ahead would have had the locomotives looking similar in appearance to the deltics, DP2 was produced at the same time as the deltics and they took a deltic bodyshell and modified it, after DP2 had shown the excellent capabilities of the 16CSVT prime mover and the order for the locomotives placed English Electric intended to make them as similar as DP2 as possible but the BRB (British Railways Board) had produced a standard front end and had specific requirements for how the engine room and other equipment was to be set out.

[@tobythehairlessdog8876]

poor DP2 - it got splatted... Woof!

[@IainDavies-z2l]

Yes, the Deltic design was well out dated. By then the class 47 was the standard design for locos.

[@Alpha-oo8]

I say sam, shouldn’t you have mentioned that the OO Hornby class 50, while right at this very moment is cheaper than the TT one, is on quite the limited time discount? It’s RRP is 224 pounds. I know you can see it in your footage, but still, it could be construed as being a tad misleading. Not trying to say you’re trying to mislead us, goodness no. Just giving a heads up so people don’t have ammunition to have a go at you.

[@trevorbell3571]

Most of your comments seem fair Sam. The one area I disagree with you on, is I price. I have a TT layout, and I honestly don't expect to get my models to be cheaper than 00. Yes they are smaller, but to get the same high standard must be harder in the smaller scale.

[@Hornbyttgingernerd]

I received mine last week and I love it

[@timbervalleyproductions]

Awesome! You should try their 00 version... I think you'd be pleasantly surprised...

[@nigelarmstrong252]

One of my favourite BR locos. Your review was spot on and totally fair. One observation, seeing the 50 sitting on the track, it looks to me that the rails of the TT track look out of scale to the loco and its wheels. A bit like EM and OO I suppose. I don't have a model railway, not since the late 70s anyway, and this is the first time I've seen TT track close up. Does quality / accuracy vary between Hornby and Peco ? I know this is a bit off at a tangent but the immaculate class 50 made it look quite obvious.

[@TheCyberSalvager]

Nicely done review, as always. Seems to me that Hornby have done a quality job with this, however I have to wonder what Hornby have against HO? I have nothing against those who model in OO or TT, but it seems surprising that after producing models in the "mongrel" scale of OO for so long they decide to go into the niche market of TT when HO has such an enormous following around the world! Okay, maybe British outline would not have the same appeal as, say, Swiss outline, but I am sure that there are some international modellers out there who might take it up in the same way that many British modellers do international outlines. I know of many British modellers (Me included) that would absolutely lap it up!

[@mkaustralia7136]

Off topic for this model, but Sam is obviously making progress with his constant criticism of droopy running boards on engines from different manufacturers. Rapido’s new S160 release has many features, but straight running board is expressly stated. 😂😂😂😂 (It is a USA type and those may have had a version with stepped running boards - I assume)

[@cirseltoo]

My Edward Elgar did a day of running at Sleaford show straight out of the box (other than fitting a decoder) and crawled from first running with no issues at all (before chipping). There are NO sprung buffers in any make in TT scale- and I have stock from 9 manufacturers running. In terms of price it is about £75 cheaper than locos of equivalent standard from other manufacturers- you could be comparing its value with the wrong market here. Mine will be running again at Ruddington show later this month. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4rJdGuwrNl2i7M to see it.

[@formidable38]

Its nice to see thatHornby fixed the angles of the windscreens that the 00 version suffers from being too flat.

[@alistairkittow3648]

Got one, really nice detail and nice weight, just a shame during running in started to slow down after 15 minutes started to slow down then came to a complete stop and that was that, sending back to be sorted 😢

[@mikehitchen3153]

Shame Hornbys poor attitude stopped Heljan entering the market, a range of manufacturers producing stock would probably ensure TTs sucess, only Hornby producing may be its demise?

[@mikeking2539]

TT is not my thing, but I still like to see your review videos, I like the class 50s' in this large logo livery, I have the 00 gauge one, but sadly one of the sets of side grills is in a bad shape. But trying to find a replacement body is like rocking horse poo. they are not mant about, !

[@Rturn2609]

I’m not sure, do you have a comment on the price? I’m not sure you mentioned it?

[@SamBarr-cx5er]

Can I suggest you purchase a range of different pin decoders so as to enable you to fit a decoder and carry out your reviews with and without decoders, you can then remove the decoder prior to putting the loco into your stock.

[@petert9749]

Impressive. On slow speed seems to be cogging. Try pulse throttle or DCC? Thanks Sam (and Mrs Sam)

[@redsaints]

Who knows, maybe on dcc this would be better. Shame, I like the reviews, but as someone using dcc it is missing that extra step.

[@goarmysleepinthemud.]

It looks great. If the U.S would produce a decent amount of TT I would trade out all my OO and HO stuff and switch to TT.

[@RichardKuivila1947]

Oh-Oh ! Did you: CHASSIS - "remove the carpet debris with small tweezers" ?

[@andrewwalker8382]

No Hornby locos I have ever bought, have performed flawlessly at slow speeds.

[@timharrison2894]

So many times we hear you say"expensive and not worth it" so good to see Hornby creating high quality models. Judging by your words and not scores, world have have expected a better grade than C tho. Great review Sam.

[@trainfan5]

Doesn't deserve a C. Its easily the best TT model to date and should be a B easily. Its better than my OO version also from Hornby. Yes, its not the cheapest but you get what you pay for in this model. Easily better value than the Pacifics these days.

[@dilwich]

I really can't see the TT120 being a success long term.

[@jonathanpan6110]

Hoover boi

[@samgarnett9174]

I made somehow an embarrassing purchase this week in the way of the Hornby Coca Cola Christmas train set which I didn’t realise was in the basket however I’m going to keep it and store it away.

[@StevenTT120Layout]

I have on with sound

[@MikayelBousseksou-cl8ew]

When’s the June model railway news?

[@brianjacksongreen6691]

Excellent !! MORE TT 😁

[@supstersmodelrailways3202]

Hi. Love the review. Great looking loco. Wish I could start on TT but not for me…… so far! Anyways, could you check the height please. Watching the class 50 and the Mk1 coaches, the 50 looked a scale foot higher. But also noticed the Pullman looked higher than the Mk1”s too. Which height is correct? Or is it all correct and I’ve just noticed something that’s not in 00. lol. Cheers. Dave.

[@maringarvanovic8011]

Ahhhhhh!. It just frustrates the hell out of me. These are a great size and look great. It was all supposed to be about making them smaller and cheaper to get new people to the hobby. But it's just too expensive. I just bought a new Hornby 50 for £120. It is the latest one with 21 pin chip. If this was £100 people would be tempted to collect or jump scale. I do not know a single person who has done this.

[@lapiswake6583]

Mine arrived today after ordering it from Rails on Monday (along with a pack of Accurascale MHA Coalfish and a Sonic Models VIX Ferry Van). I haven't tested or run it yet, because its TXS fitted so I need to get my DCC controller out to power it, but it looks rather good. I hope the speaker doesn't rattle, like it does in my HST dummy power car. I do wish they'd done a more widespread class as their first large independent diesel loco, like the 37 or 47. But, they're coming, apparently. I was disappointed that both TMC and Rails said the blue and grey mk2Fs were on order with the supplier, as I thought they'd be in stock as well. But obviously not. The detail bag looks great, with its ploughs and etched nameplates, but the one thing I have noticed is the fan grille, with round holes that aren't very fine. And the underside of the bogies seemed to be covered in oil, so it was overlubricated too.

[@timstrainvideos142]

please compare it to a dapol n gauge class 50 sam. see which is better for detail and slow speed running.

[@Alpha-oo8]

I wonder how they come up with the class numbers for these engines? Like, the class 55 was before the 50? I wonder how they decide?

[@davidmolin8944]

Pretty cool that hornby is finally working on improving their tt scale compared to how it was at release, hope to see them improve even more

[@Jimyjames73]

Diesels or TT Scales are not really my thing but a nice review anyway 😊🚂🚂🚂

[@mytinplaterailway]

The packaging 'outer' is much cheaper looking than the 00 gauge version.

[@davidbugler4597]

12.50 Interesting that 50 014 in the photo has the usual orange OHLE warning stripe at cantrail level, whereas photos of the real 50 040 suggest that it never had this feature, even though the 'lighning flash' warning signs beside the cab doors are there -- so the model is correct, but nevertheless looks a bit strange without it.

[@JDCalvert91]

Always love seeing a TT review. I've recently got back into the hobby for the first time since I was a kid, and if I didn't feel so sentimental about my old models I'd have definitely gone for TT. One thing I'd love to see in these reviews is a section about how easy it is to fit a DCC decoder, and how well it runs on DCC compared to DC. I appreciate that would add a fair chunk to the already-huge amount of work you put in these reviews of course!

[@martinpattison1567]

When it comes to the Power rating are you still using the OO calculation or how you made a new one? 52 does not sound right to me if it is well done, Hornby. The tooling costs should be lower than OO because of less material, but the same labour time.

[@timchalk6810]

It seems to me that the handrails appear larger due to them being painted white maybe weathering would make it all appear more proportional?