Horrific Penalty Shootout Performance

[@Damian_1989]

I love how Z, being someone who was a goalkeeper, sounds like he's *personally offended* by Raya's performance

[@enidtaric3679]

Zealand goalkeeper? It's like me calling myself swimmer. Getting into the pool doesn't make me swimmer.

[@j.ackermann9110]

He just claims he was a keeper so he doesn't have to explain why he was never running

[@andredetoni897]

​I played as a keeper untill college and I don't see a problem with that. Sure we're not 10% the keeper raya is, but I don't even think you need to have ever played as one to know raya didn't do the best job there​@@enidtaric3679

[@jamesbaurus5928]

​@enidtaric3679 he was a decent keeper at a amateur level (high school soccer). He was a backup, but did play a decent amount. He does have some authority to speak here. In European terms he's probably played at low level non-league as a backup.

[@LiftandCoa]

​@@enidtaric3679But playing in goal for a football team that has regular competitive matches makes you a goalkeeper.

[@TheSpartanman9]

How did you skip over the Yoro penalty. That one was so hilarious. Raya dived outside of the goal frame.

[@PhilliesNostalgia]

It seemed like he did for the Fernandes penalty too

[@TDBTylerable]

Someone in my family, at 75+ years old, while watching live said that even he could score past Raya in that shootout, not because he'd hit the ball with any meaningful power, but because Raya was basically already on the floor before the run up was done xD Raya's incredible but shootouts just aren't for him, he basically put a huge neon sign up telling everyone which way he was going each time!

[@lost1head]

Did you think the same after the penalty shootout against Porto? Or after his penalty save against Atalanta?

[@TDBTylerable]

@@lost1head The penalty save at Atalanta was fantastic, but actually rewatch the Porto shootout. He always dives to his left hoping that the strikers gonna put it there... and fair enough it can absolutely work. But against Man U? He was pulling the trigger on the dives waaaay too early. Even if someone initially wanted to put it to his left they had time to change their mind.

[@ganaed]

They never said that

[@TDBTylerable]

@@ganaed Ah, but they're asking me to recall my opinion of a shootout from 10 months ago that I didn't catch live, so, no, I didn't think that immediately after that shootout. It's okay to think he's a good keeper whilst critiquing his ability at a shootout, especially after this most recent one Heck, I have Raya in my dream team xD

[@ganaed]

@@TDBTylerable what? Lol

[@crobias]

the ways raya dives is so graceful

[@OhJustSomeRandomGuy]

Thing is, you just KNOW the ManU players were going back and telling each other that he was diving too early, so if they just took a bit of pace off he'd already have gone one direction and they could just pass it into the goal once they saw which side he'd vacated. Arsenal could've swapped in an outfield player and he'd have done better at these PKs.

[@dacr8928]

Bruno was laughing hysterically almost looking like he was offended walking back to the team after his pen, I think he knew and did exactly what you said.

[@marcoreus3091]

"tbf if he goes the right way he probable saves them" this is almost as good as "you want to start from the front, because it means the other 19 guys are behind you"

[@Ghost_X_Ghost]

The most pointless statement I’ve ever heard honestly…Should’ve known what to expect when he said “if”…IF I were the arsenal goalkeeper, IF United had gotten 4 red cards in the game, IF bayendir dived the wrong way for all Arsenal’s

[@ordotectonicus8585]

As a goalkeeper, Raya was signalling which way he was going to go 5 business days before the man utd players kicked the ball. And he dived 3 times to his left for 3 times in a row . I feel like after going that way 2 times, he tried to reverse phycology by going it 3 times. He wasn't great in that shootout.

[@rafael_lana]

Tbf going same side in a row can be very effective, specially if you're getting close. Most players when nervous default to the opposite of the dominant foot anyways, the most comfortable place to strike it, more prevalent in lower leagues too. So that part I don't blame him, is the obvious body language that ends him

[@ordotectonicus8585]

@@rafael_lana yeah fe, but telegraphing which way you're diving does negate the effectiveness of going the same way

[@parmaman8551]

I have a theory. Because Raya is only 6ft with t-rex arms, he needs to dive earlier to get to the corners. And I reckon he was basing his dives simply off research of the takers, not actually reacting to what they were doing live.

[@ThatGuyHarvey]

Being in stands and watching this was excruciating. He's a class keeper, but that was actively the worst keeper performance in a shootout I've ever seen.

[@dezmondsunflowerviii]

"His left's on the ground. HE'S LEFT FOOTED." 😭😂😂

[@madgaming476]

They trained that corner kick routine a little bit too much they forgot to train penalties 😂😂

[@lukee7442]

this video didn’t even show the leny yoro pen, which in my opinion is the worst one for raya

[@randomguy17399]

Seriously. The yoro one was comical

[@wolfhaize]

He actually also did this in that UCL game against Bayern with the Kane penalty. He dived so so early. I think a tactic coaches tell players is with Raya, just delay your shot for as long as you can.

[@nestor8347]

He also did that against Atalanta vs. Rattegui. He managed to save that one because Rattegui was looking down the whole time, and the followup save was beautiful. But I couldn't help but notice just how early he dived.

[@nolannguyen2]

If Zealand saw the Leny Yoro penalty, he would rage quit the channel 💀

[@Ac3man]

That was so bad it feels like one of those moments you look back on after a match fixing scandal is exposed and think he made it too obvious.

[@marce6446]

Thats probably why he doesn't start as GK for Spain and Unai Simon does

[@ganaed]

Simón has been better all around not just because penalties

[@muhammadrusyaidi2468]

Nah, unai simon is better gk for Spain right now

[@ChikaTC42]

I was expecting to see "David Raya has disconnected" in the bottom corner of the screen 😂that man was playing on 300 ping

[@lamuerte8687]

After watching the first penalty from Bruno, I was 100% sure Raya was not going to save any unless the player actually missed the target.

[@karsenhippolyte8721]

Always love when zealand covers ManU whether good or bad as a ManU fan

[@alextimemit9454]

8:16 first note from Idoteque by Radiohead

[@Faltaire]

To be fair, Raya is also half a foot shorter than Bayındır, so it’s not the fairest comparison.

[@drex5160]

Eden Hazard & Ivan Toney would have loved Raya's early dives ↪️

[@Dripsoka]

More like horrific Referee performance

[@hugolouessard3914]

Both can be true at the same time

[@dezmondsunflowerviii]

The ref didn't make Raya be bad at stopping the penalties though

[@Dripsoka]

@dezmondsunflowerviii what do I do with this info as a united fan

[@Ghost_X_Ghost]

@@DripsokaWhat do I do with this info as a Liverpool fan?

[@Dripsoka]

@@Ghost_X_Ghost idk this kinda has nothing to do with liverpool fans

[@IHamilton9320]

Put Emi Martinez in goal and I wonder how Arsenal’s last two years might have gone. I also wonder how Aston Villa’s last two years would have been with a different gk. It’s not even about the saves, just the intimidation. Exactly right

[@chosone2]

It's funny how Arsenal keep fumbling with their goalkeeper decisions. Ramsdale would have done better at penalties than Raya did. Important moments like this decide cup competitions

[@BengShwallock]

(IMO) Even Szczesny wouldve had a better shootout performance, lucky for united they didnt repeat our last europa league final shootout performance

[@cxzier]

@@chosone2 Ramsdale, I can say with 99.9% confidence, saved not more than one penalty for us, which if memory serves correctly was in the community shield. He's possibly the worst example you could've given for this considering the penalties he also should've saved vs sporting a couple seasons back.

[@chosone2]

@@cxzier I've just looked up the stats for both keepers and they're both about 10.8% save success rate 😂 but Raya has faced more penalties for Arsenal than Ramsdale did

[@chibbyranjo]

There are schools of thought to penalty saving, but Raya failed the entrance exam to all of them with this performance. Keepers quite often have a dive planned ahead of time. Think Jordan Pickford for England against the Swiss in Euro 2024. He makes it a mental process. “All I have to do is save ONE and it gives my team a chance.” But it’s clear that Bayindir’s process was all about giving the taker the bare minimum of information ahead of striking the ball, and a reliance on his size and agility to react in time to make saves. You wouldn’t accuse Pickford and Bayindir of having the same approach to the physical art of saving penalties. Maybe it’s harsh on Raya. With the exception of Bruno Fernandes, there’s not a lot of historical data on penalty taking from the rest of United’s chosen five. Raya may have been flying blind heading into the shootout and decided that the only thing he could do was to go early and try and treat it as a 50-50 chance of saving. In reality goalkeepers only have a roughly 25% chance of saving a penalty. And all this from a United fan. Penalties may be a weakness in Raya’s repertoire. Statistically speaking though, concentrating heavily on a 25% chance of success is not good gambling. Raya is a sweeper for his team, an extra player in possession and allows Arsenal to push an extra man into attack, especially against ten men. It wasn’t his fault that his teammates threw him under the bus after 120+ minutes of play, by performing so poorly in front of the opposition goal. On the day Bayindir demonstrated the average odds of saving penalties in the shootout, and Raya didn’t. I watched twelve years of David De Gea in goal for Manchester United. He wasn’t good at saving penalties. And yet, probably one of the finest goalkeepers of the last 15 years. You’d never say De Gea was incapable of making incredible reaction saves, it was his whole game. He played like a hockey goalkeeper, with his legs, and it made him unique and a world beater on his day. But it remains, he wasn’t good at saving penalties.

[@Saaarmbii]

"is he having a stroke" almost definitely shocking goalkeeping 🤣

[@MrTwoojStary]

oh my god, i was so afraid it was just me being armchair specialist thinking that his perofrmance in those penalties was utterly shit

[@houdinisplug]

Lmaoo same here, it was probably the worst penalty shootout performance I’ve seen from a GK since De Gea vs Villarreal

[@yuna91203]

Every time you said Lisandro I kept expecting you to say Lasagna

[@ffhsluighssgdfg1716]

Goal keeping master class from zelandism before fm 25

[@KittenCritters]

Nothing will ever come close to the horrible pen shootout between the Swedish and US Women's teams in the last WC

[@johnck5775]

Disagree, most penalty takers don't have the confidence to change their target at the last millisecond, especially young players or those not aren't used to taking penalties like Leny Yoro, Lisandro Martinez, and Amad. Diving early is a risk, but if he'd just chosen the right side it would have paid off.

[@Bagster321]

Z has the same energy when I watch rugby forwards tackle badly or screw up an offload and i am here for it

[@Tris2000]

Why doesn’t Arsenal play Neto in goal for the cup? He’s one of the best penalty stoppers in the world! (His stats at Valencia were amazing!). Why did Arsenal take him on loan if he isn’t even getting played in cup competitions where penalties are possible?

[@KT-ki6gz]

“But my bottle said he always shoots right 😭”

[@cxzier]

The weirdest part of this is that Raya is usually so good at penalties, so frustrating.

[@harrysiddall3392]

"If he goes the right way he probably saves them" 😭

[@max_6763]

As a Dutchman, thanks for mentioning Cillesen and bringing back my trauma

[@adaldi_]

16 seconds, this is gotta be a new record for me 🎉

[@clarenceonyekwere5428]

Keepers and penalties are a very interesting topic. One example is Vincent Enyeama at AFCON. One of his first AFCON, he was genuinely cheeks in a shotout vs Tunisia. He may as well have been a cone. He was already a great young keeper but the shootout was dreadful. The next AFCON it was Nigeria vs Tunisia again and if I can remember he saved 2 or more and was good on those he didn't. He clearly worked on it. Going forward he was solid at least at pens.

[@sohammishra2475]

Emi Martinez is one of the best goalkeepers in terms of penalty saves i’ve ever seen. Always puts the attacker off by doing those fake dives and manages to get into their head

[@andrearossi5402]

you really are my favourite soccer youtuber!

[@smaddison3854]

Its because all Arsenal players are professional divers.

[@bipedalame]

Helmut Duckadam passed away last year, A Legend

[@roon7778]

Harry Kane last year in the champions league said how early he dives

[@gezblair]

I did wonder why so many strikers did that My Little Pony dance thing before taking a pen. Thanks for a good explanation.

[@kyledeweerd8870]

It was weird to watch. He actually has been decent at penalties so far in his Arsenal career. Just weird that he went so early literally every time. Almost like his timing we just off the entire time

[@fmdnegreiros]

After playing in tier 3 in Portugal, stopped playing and restarted in Saturday league in London at 29 with 10 extra kilos, even I don’t do this! Come on man 😂😂

[@JoDyMa]

As somebody who was also a goalkeeper until I was 18, and also managed to get myself a fractured cheekbone, I can confirm, he fucked up. Raya did what I used to do, but there was a slight difference between the two. He commits so early, and I used to as well, but as I shifted my weight to one side, the same way Raya has, as soon as that weight planted, I would shift my extremely low center of gravity, and throw myself the other way, easily getting to the post, to purposely throw the striker off cue. Worked at least 75% of the time, if it wasn't a save, the sudden change would cause them to mis-hit it entirely

[@mikeyfoley2240]

Another horrific penalty shootout in the all ireland inter provential series final between Ulster and Connacht It went to sudden death with both teams only scoring one penalty In the first round of sudden death they both missed again on the 2nd round connacht missed again and ulster won it So in 14 penalties 3 were scored! and it wasnt like the keapers were amazing or anything they made one or two saves each but the penalties were so bad. Only excuse the players might have is that penalty shoutouts have only been in GAA for a few years

[@HartDynastyHD]

really didn't need to be reminded of this, but thanks I guess

[@JamesMilner-b8b]

Try ufl, maybe you'll get more engagement. Your channel looks dead.

[@MrMMAJER]

To think they used to have the best there is in penalty shootouts and let him go, kind of goes along with the Arsenal dna

[@caferustwat]

You should always just react as a keeper, then you can save almost any penalty that is not well taken. A perfectly struck penalty is almost unsaveble anyway , even if you guess the right way.

[@babyphat8965]

The problem is that Raya reacts about half an hour before. The Man Utd goalkeeper conceded 3 penalties, but there is no mention of it because his reaction time was adequate.

[@bazmoules]

Surely he is really scared so he tries to commit and go early rather than play the mind games. I play GK and I fake one way and go the other for pens in this situation

[@ryanfisch7047]

How many KMs are in a Country Mile? Anyone know?

[@Ryan-dq6nn]

Can’t beat Zealand talking about my beloved United 🙏

[@peeper2070]

This was probably the worst Arsenal match since they became good in 2022. They had so many second chances to win this game.

[@HWSimRacing]

I think this is in the same train of thought as the corners that they are doing. They told the keeper to just dive early as soon as you see which way they are going. It turns out not to work and looks stupid. But if it worked it would be seen as a genius idea.

[@Gunner_goat]

Finally somebody mentioned raya's horrible keeper in the shout out

[@bingle12765]

Can’t believe he didn’t mention the red once

[@rwalker0130]

you know dude played at a good HS team when he talks about his goal keeping coach lol. most schools in the US still have a PE teacher that has to ask the ref about the rules during the games

[@Gosleh]

He’s def banking on guessing the right way, going a stride before the shot. It’s giving him the leeway to dive all the way until ball hits the post and in. It’s a terrible strat. Like you said, Bayindir made it all the way to the post perfectly

[@roccco17]

As a United fan I have to admit it was an absolutely phenomenal performance by Raya. Enjoyed it a lot., ❤

[@joeyveloso]

Raya was for sure not tired, the man didn't even have to do his job for majority of the game, Arsenal had 71% of the possession

[@victorhugo3952]

He's just the embodiment of what Arsenal is: bottlers

[@HarriMuhindi]

Raya is still the only goalie in history to save 3 pens in one shoot out in the UCL

[@ganaed]

I thought it was just me.

[@miljan1399]

Agree with Z here,Raya just needs to dive right when the player hits the shot because 100% some players do look at the goalkeeper to see where he is going if he goes before the shot

[@cuauhtemocricardoorlandosa2188]

Now i really want to hear his goalkeeper opinion on Karius going to Schalke

[@melkipliehe280]

I think Raya should consider asking Zealand's high school coach to be his GK coach

[@InvadedOath]

The only reason for going this early is that’s the way the set piece coach has told him to go. All the praise they get they’ve got to take some flack as well

[@themightypenguintentacles]

I like that hoodie

[@McPilch]

Loris Karius five mins after THAT Champions League final performance, with concussion, would have performed better than Raya in this shootout. Honestly, that performance should spell the end of Raya's career, it was THAT BAD.

[@thatbrazilianboi]

2 minutes ago is crazy

[@GerberFlerber]

How many fingers have u broken/sprained playing goalie I think ive had all of mine sprained at least once

[@evidencegk3128]

Height and wingspan is important raya is pretty small for a goalkeeper and bayindr is very tall

[@simplesimonhadapie]

I said the same watching the exact same penalty. I was likee arsenal are cooked as the keeper is never saving anything from the spot going that early

[@Malam_NightYoru]

UNITED FOUND A GOALKEEPER? NO WAY

[@Diddy007]

Anyone know where that hoodie is from it looks nice

[@andredetoni897]

I cannot believe you skipped the worst one. Raya takes TWO FULL STEPS and yoro is still stepping into his shot. I swear to got if the shootout kept going raya would jump as the United player is placing the ball on the spot

[@MarcosGarcia-pj3pq]

david raya wes feening for chocolate turtles too much

[@pheonixblue9434]

Crazy he went the wrong way for every single pen like lmao!!!

[@jonathanball8237]

Actually I thought the Yoro one was the worst!!! Rays was basically in the car park getting in his car by the time the lad hit the ball….

[@phoenixfire6559]

I have to disagree. Yes Raya went early but only Fernandez punished him. All the other takers picked their spot, head down and just hoped. None of them noticed Raya went early and as such, if Raya had guessed the right way for any of them, he would have saved them. I do agree that he should be holding his position as long as possible but that wasn't the worst penalty keeping performance I've seen. Edit: A few days later, Burnley vs Sunderland ended 0-0 with Trafford saving both penalties. He moved very early on both which in turn meant he could cover the whole left hand side of the goal. Taker had his head down both times and went left - outcome? Both saved by Trafford. Like I said, going early can mean saving some penalties which would not be saveable otherwise - the key is to only go early if you are confident the penalty taker is not a stutterer.

[@nonso_]

I have to disagree with you Z, Raya’s 1,2 step to left on Yoro’s pen was definitely the worst 😂😭

[@poppyharlow4448]

I like how the first reply to that post is "Tbf if he goes the right way he probably saves them" like yeah dude if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle

[@liamcallaghan15]

Mark G with the highest iq twitter comment 👏👏

[@AndreyChichagov]

Sunderland will always love Amad

[@LearningNeverStopsEX]

The worst one was the one from Yoro

[@maxwellbarton7147]

You missed the Yoro one which was the worst one

[@mikesearcy9151]

Raya was in a FM shootout...

[@Rain.and.petals]

raya was hopping and skipping before he even dived ..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣.....martinez's penalty was awful, but he score cause raya was on his way out of the stadium before martinez even took it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alveuel]

Z, come on man... You have to do a little more research. What you said is true, most professional keepers can get to the corner without jumping early. But Raya isn't that guy. He's 6'0" on a good day with longer cleats on his boots. He isn't the best at jumping as he's been done over the top a few times. Him falling over with his hands stretched to max won't cover the goal, he won't get even close. In exact contrast to that Bayindir is 6'6"... It's like watching the NBA and watching someone a half a foot taller shot blocking someone. It looks bad because it's a huge size mismatch. Bayindir's height, let alone his reach, and jumping capabilities means he's getting to any corner and he can jump later due to his size. Raya can't, he's a small keeper. He's a defensive midfielder playing keeper who happens to have good reactions and can catch the ball. He was obviously coached to jump early as Man United usually are good penalty takers. His reaction save during the game shows when he's not coached to jump early(jumping to the side most often the taker goes) to get to the corners he's good enough to block most shots. It's like when you play lower league football and the goal keeper is 5'7" and the regulation goals are 24'x8'... I'm shooting high, I'm chipping you in the match for the disrespect.

[@peterwolf4230]

Absolutely awful goalkeeping

[@DrHydroxide]

Is it possible that he did that to compensate for his lack of height?

[@hugolouessard3914]

Arsenal paid the ref, Man U paid Raya lol, we saw what choic paid off

[@thehellyousay]

so ..., you are not running ... there is some reason for this, ya?

[@lexusstorm1393]

Raya felt bad playing 10v12 so he decided on a handicap fairs

[@jasonariyan]

Why did you not speak about how biased the ref was

[@CrookdMoe]

you skipped over Yoro's penalty. The worst one of them all.

[@mssfocus1801]

Hey chat 👋