I had no idea that Lovecraft collaborated with Houdini. That's freaking awesome! Great story too.
@julietfischer50564 жыл бұрын
It was based on events Houdini claimed had happened, but given the Lovecraft touch.
@TexasFriedCriminal4 жыл бұрын
"Facing financial problems, J. C. Henneberger, the founder and owner of Weird Tales, wanted to associate the popular Harry Houdini with the magazine in order to boost its readership. Following the introduction of an "Ask Houdini" column, as well as the publication of two short stories allegedly written by the escape artist, Henneberger sought out Lovecraft in February 1924 and commissioned him to write the tale of a supposedly true experience that Houdini had had in Egypt. Lovecraft was paid $100 (approximately $1492 in present-day terms) to ghostwrite the story,[4] at the time the largest sum he had ever been given as an advance. This was a major factor in motivating him to take the job[5] as, after listening to Houdini's story and researching its background, Lovecraft concluded that the tale was completely fabricated and requested permission from Henneberger to take artistic license. After receiving clearance from the editor, he began his writing by spending considerable time researching the setting in books issued by the Metropolitan Museum of Art as well as by frequently visiting the museum's Egyptian exhibits" From Wikipedia.
@setamonkeytoy4 жыл бұрын
love your name ! i can't agree more it is freaking awesome !
@sub-jec-tiv2 жыл бұрын
Facebook can also kiss it. 💋 🍑
@sniffinglue7236 Жыл бұрын
I'd hardly call it a collaboration.
@themischeifguide4 жыл бұрын
Once you hear antediluvian you know you're in a Lovecraft story. Another good one.
@WhizzerdSupreme4 жыл бұрын
Or “overhanging gables” 🤣
@Samphetamine4 жыл бұрын
Cyclopean
@scottkenney80023 жыл бұрын
Squamous
@Shapes_Quality_Control3 жыл бұрын
“Decadent”
@aaronm.43163 жыл бұрын
Prodigious
@122011852344 жыл бұрын
Ian, your voice is right up there with Sir David Attenborough, Vin Scully and Morgan Freeman in my book.
@Drcrashbandicoot4 жыл бұрын
@Corvus Morve Indeed, but Ian and Baldermort do narrates in different ways. Mr Gordon does a more professional take, and have to tangle with lovecraftian words like "C'hlaytgh" and other such random nonsense. Baldermort on the other hand is truly inspiring in his narration, with a passion for the subject that is hard/nearly impossible to find anywhere else.
@chrislevack405Ай бұрын
Dodgers fan here... can totally agree with the Vin Scully note.
@ianauck3184 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of my favorite Lovecraft stories. The undead legions seem to be organized rather than chaotic, and the overall mood is that of constant escape. To boot, my favorite person from history colabs with my favorite author!
@thelastsausage6353 жыл бұрын
‘The overall mood is that of constant escape’ - love the way you put that!! I absolutely loved this story and the completely gripping way Ian reads it!👍🥇
@nathanharper56704 жыл бұрын
"Redolent of aromatic putrescence" - some of that classic Houdini prose.
@simone2224 жыл бұрын
As a lover of anything in relation to ancient Egypt, I've re-read this special Lovecraft story for many times over the years. But it feels like I'm encountering it for the first time with this superb narration. Immensely enjoyed it. Thank you so much.
@PowerLvL9000 Жыл бұрын
The more I listen to this channel, the more I appreciate the tone and cadence of the horrific tales of Lovecraft. And, as I listen further with an eager, yet unsatisfying appetite, I’m learning the only thing greater than these grotesque writings, is the love and ferocity of this particular fan base. Thanks for cultivating and promoting these amazing stories.
@bobbymarcum7724 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I wonder if Mr Gordon feels insulted when all of us tell him his work helps us fall asleep quickly lolol
@122011852344 жыл бұрын
Nah, I think he feels flattered more than anything.
@jonshepherd25504 жыл бұрын
His voice is very soothing and I often fall asleep listening... I wonder what all that horror is doing to my subconscious..Eek
@ArnoldCampbell4 жыл бұрын
I've wondered that too, I'm one of the many. However I always relatedness until I finish the story.
@minervaaurora81094 жыл бұрын
omg! i am lucky to get through 20 mins before drifting off into the dreamscape to join all the horrors and beauty of the multiverse. i think its definitely flattering to know that your voice is the last thing many listeners will hear before they fall asleep lol
@spritenox59864 жыл бұрын
Soothing voice, solid readings so I'm not annoyed at the quality... Combined with stories I often know and love (some I don't)... And Lovecraft and the others save me from my own, much worse, nightmares.
@logankuhn75414 жыл бұрын
God damn that whole description of old Cairo around 8:00 is insane. One of the most eloquently written authors I’ve ever read
@MrRugercat45 Жыл бұрын
Much of what he wrote about Cairo and the stifling hot atmosphere of the pyramids is absolutely true. My mother went there on a trip in the mid ‘60’s and explored the pyramids before they had air conditioning and safety railings and lighting. She went down those narrow confusing alleys and had a wonderful Bedouin (forget the name-will have to ask her again) that guarded her by sleeping outside her room. Her room had no lock, and being a younger woman alone was an incredibly brave and unsafe thing to do in that place. So the gentleman slept outside her room and told her to be careful and not wander the alleys alone and especially not at night. Women disappeared especially often. She was from Czechoslovakia, and it wouldn’t be hard to imagine a lone tourist just disappearing, never to be seen again. She had many adventures in distant places. This story is similar to one my father read about a Czech (I believe) researcher who stayed the night in a pharaoh’s tomb and spoke about the experience. He wouldn’t even say the worst things he saw and heard in that hellish place. If I’m not mistaken his hair was white by morning. Those places are not places that any normal person would want to stay overnight in. Egypt was a notoriously dark pagan culture with terrifying dark gods and rituals that would be best forgotten. Lovecraft is absolutely correct in that regard. Those people we’re obsessed with death and death pervaded their entire existence. Even now people who collect ushabti and Egyptian relics have problems with demonic spirits and such, and the curses from that time have survived countless centuries, just ask Howard Carter and the guys who found Tutankhamun’s tomb in 1922. Many call it coincidence and just fanciful imagination, but if you truly read the accounts, you’ll understand that there was something behind it. Something evil.
@couchpotatoe914 жыл бұрын
That "ancient egyptian duel" is the most British thing ever 😂
@jonathanwells2234 жыл бұрын
Okay, then what would you call it smart guy?
@couchpotatoe914 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwells223 I was referring to the way Lovecraft, an English man, described this "old ritual". He obviously was heavily influenced by his own culture and I bet never even visited egypt.
@MacobstonProductions4 жыл бұрын
@🏺Normapollo🏺 It's time to du-du-du-du-du-du-du du-du duel !
@julietfischer50564 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwells223 - BS by the 'guide' to lure Houdini.
@julietfischer50564 жыл бұрын
@@couchpotatoe91 - Unless the phony guide was lying to Houdini.
@miarencrowsdaughter64342 жыл бұрын
This story and The Shunned House are the two Lovecraft stories that tickle me the most. You get up to the denouement, and there's this exquisitely detailed description followed by 'And *that* was just its [insignificant body part]!'
@edennis32024 жыл бұрын
Thank you doing this story! I found it yesterday by another narrator but it was unsatisfactory; I couldn't get halfway through his narration. Now my wish has come true! A terrific story read by my favorite narrator!
@bittybitty82334 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy to see you at 103K. !!!! FINALLY, FINALLY Our H.B. family is growing....Congratulations !! Can't wait to hit our 1st million. Y'all more than deserve it, 2 best voices on u - tube.
@williampizzimenti38744 жыл бұрын
You've done more for me than you will ever know. Thank you for everything you do. Keep up the entertaining and high quality work.
@MrsCaranAmy4 жыл бұрын
Bravo Ian. I haven't enjoyed a story so much as this one for awhile now. I loved the extraordinary detail and suspense. Thank you. Keep these coming♡
@mushroomGdog774 жыл бұрын
“The nethermost caverns,” wrote the mad Arab, “are not for the fathoming of eyes that see; for their marvels are strange and terrific. Cursed the ground where dead thoughts live new and oddly bodied, and evil the mind that is held by no head. Wisely did Ibn Schacabao say, that happy is the tomb where no wizard hath lain, and happy the town at night whose wizards are all ashes. For it is of old rumour that the soul of the devil-bought hastes not from his charnel clay, but fats and instructs the very worm that gnaws; till out of corruption horrid life springs, and the dull scavengers of earth wax crafty to vex it and swell monstrous to plague it. Great holes secretly are digged where earth’s pores ought to suffice, and things have learnt to walk that ought to crawl.” A excerpt from the festival by h p Lovecraft
@exileinderby514 жыл бұрын
As quoted by Brian Lumley in Lord of the Worms.
@TheEldritchGod3 жыл бұрын
Good times... good times...
@antondavidovic39962 жыл бұрын
So it is basically saying, the worms that eat a wizard's deceased body become possessed by the wizard's conscious or spirit, and massively amalgate into the form of a human body? I remember this excerpt from "The Festival", the protagonist at one point also says that as he brushes up against the hooded figures their elbows feel weirdly soft and their bellies feel "pulpy".
@nowhereman60192 жыл бұрын
This is by far the strangest crossover I've ever seen.
@MacobstonProductions4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that Lovecraft collaborated with Houdini. Fantastic story. Thank you Horrorbable !
@Bbergster4 жыл бұрын
Lovecraft created an opportunity he couldn’t get out of. Maybe he held his cat hostage. HH was driven to debunk all mumbo jumbo. I got to wonder if he knew the depth of The mythos? Can I try on that straight jacket, please?
@whatwhat984 жыл бұрын
A new Lovecraft story that I havent heard of. Good, this should help me fall asleep later today.
@BeastlyEwok4 жыл бұрын
Time to rekindled the nightly routine. Always enjoying the content Ian.
@rosiemcnaughton99334 жыл бұрын
I've read this story, and want to thank you for your excellent narration which really brings it to life.
@jeffreyjefferson5364 жыл бұрын
I just gave the 1000th thumbs up! I love this channel, the original Lovecraft stories are my favourites. Keep up the awesome work!
@stewartlancaster61555 ай бұрын
child
@chrisu70224 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this one fir so long now. Its amazingly narrated and kept me on rhe edge of my seat. Thank you H.B. I couldnt sleep without you
@evilpompom4 жыл бұрын
I love this story! You're definitely making it justice; your voice is perfect for Lovecraft!
@garthwhitely90124 жыл бұрын
Love these recordings, truly appreciate you and everyone that makes this channel possible
@Duchess_Van_Hoof2 жыл бұрын
Been a decade since I read this, and I can see why this is a favourite among readers.
@donaldmccleary9015 Жыл бұрын
As always, great job, Ian! Thanks for narrating this story. This is one of my favorite stories. I love everything that takes place. There is no dull moment! The descriptions of architecture and inner chambers are amazing. The descriptions of mummified beings and the story of the evil queen. I always wanted to know more about the "tour guide".
@soulreaver19834 жыл бұрын
Excellent another amazing lovecraft story thanks Ian!👍
@setamonkeytoy4 жыл бұрын
Ian your voice is wonderful ! It's slight drawl reminds me of Richard O'Brien, although i think your voice has a deeper more mellifluous timbre, it's truly perfect for the horror genre. Thank you for all your hard work and a merry Christmas
@jessevarney32984 жыл бұрын
I have been hoping you would do a recording of this at some point. I'm so excited! Thank you, Horrorbabble
@Bakiniyorum4 жыл бұрын
Really great work.Thanks Mr. Gordon.
@dynodon91824 жыл бұрын
Personally, my scariest story. Worst nightmare to be trapped under such an enormous structure. LOL
@ironixde Жыл бұрын
Superbly read - loved listening to the story!
@RyunosukeHachi4 жыл бұрын
Glorious. I have been waiting months for this. Excellent work as always!
@elfboy294 жыл бұрын
This is the one that got me into Lovecraft
@lunser90984 жыл бұрын
Took a little break now I’m back, now I have lots to listen too! Nice to see you keeping up the good work!
@manson90834 жыл бұрын
Awesome!💣💥👊 thank you so much. Just about to take a nap, I can't wait to hear this. While I enjoy fantastic dreams of pyramids, sphinx's, mummies, and don't forget THE OLD ONES LURKING INSIDE THESE ANCIENT STRUCTURES.😁
@THESIXTHCHAMBER4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely marvelous
@andreasfilis90014 жыл бұрын
Perfect! When I read it, I read it twice just for the feeling of horror and the careful selection of words by the great son of Providence.
@nadiaminerva4 жыл бұрын
Right on brother 😉
@olalustig53974 жыл бұрын
Amazing reading to my favoriot hudini story ;-)
@thesinofpride94334 жыл бұрын
I know before having listened, this is going to make my day
@Duchess_Van_Hoof2 жыл бұрын
Certainly more terrifying than I remember it being.
@BenFrayle4 жыл бұрын
Wonderful recording, very well paced.
@WhiteLongSword74 жыл бұрын
Great narration as always!
@MacobstonProductions4 жыл бұрын
So what voice actor/voice over artist do you look up too. Me : Horrorbable
@austincorreia534 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always!!🤘🤘
@CJ-uf6xl4 жыл бұрын
Perfect!
@roryd48524 жыл бұрын
Find and listen to the Dark Adventure Radio Theater version of this story.
@jean-pierrefernandez24604 жыл бұрын
Been awhile, my favorite flavour
@mikereilly76293 жыл бұрын
Harry Houdinis real name was Erich Weiss.And the man was constantly training his breath control,and spending hours submerged in ice water.etc, etc. There is an excellent book called THE SECRET LIFE OF HOUDINI. He may have been a spy, because forbidden travel countries invited him to challenges.good book.love your choice of material
@nicholasgerrish6022 Жыл бұрын
A great story, which manages to recount a brief encounter with a “Shoggoth”, clamouring out of the pit, in the depths of the Pyramid….
@seasyrenn4 жыл бұрын
Lovecraft would of loved yugioh.
@stolasgoetia934 жыл бұрын
I would not be at all surprised if he had inspired most of it.
@seasyrenn4 жыл бұрын
@Howard Lovecraft failing no simp September
@maniakb4163 жыл бұрын
"Would have" or "would've". "Would of" is incorrect. Lovecraft would be so disappointed.
@StarboyXL93 жыл бұрын
Lovecraft likely would have adored season 0 (because the notion of an ancient Pharaoh's spirit coming back to render horrific and sadistic judgement on degens and scum would have appealed to him immensly) and liked the Duelist Kingdom Arc mainly for the Millenium Items and their role in the season. Hell I can even imagine Lovecraft working the Millenium items into his mythos, which Takahashi would probably be flattered by. Imagine if the two of them actually got along and their works referenced each other, we'd have better Lovecraft-themed Yugioh cards than we currently do that's for sure. I imagine his next favourite would have been the final arc, and he would likely have explained Yami Bakura as being Nyarlathotep in one of his countless disguises. The Atlantis arc coming a close third, given how it features in some of Lovecraft's lesser known works as being an ancient Silicon Valley of dark secrets and eldritch knowledge, so Dartz and Leviathan would be right up Lovecraft's alley.
@antondavidovic39962 жыл бұрын
So, the five heads were actually giant toes, and the "rigid tentacles" that came out of the "heads" were giant claws?
@danieltelon3606 Жыл бұрын
Good deduction. I hadn't understood. I thought it was a five headed entity. Thanks for the clarification.😅
@bigdaddydons62414 жыл бұрын
"I wanted to be incognito but some amateur just had to make me show him up"
@rheinhartsilvento25764 жыл бұрын
😆😁 He Real HAD to show him up😋
@AncientHistoryCriticisms4 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys. Shared.
@robertfullchim9233 жыл бұрын
I would love if some of Poe's work was read on this channel. Fall of the House of Usher would fit in well for sure.
@HorrorBabble3 жыл бұрын
Here's a link to our Poe playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLeNNKRLWxwoPt-kZP-QxmUjvj3LtWKbvk
@SouthernSultan阿力16 күн бұрын
Australia and Egypt feature heavily in lovecraft's work
@dexterisabo31372 жыл бұрын
That was awesome
@jaymeVos4 жыл бұрын
Great story
@whynottalklikeapiratАй бұрын
This is like the Houdini Horror Bondage version of The Nameless City 🧐
@puparn934 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@TheEldritchGod4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the work of Gnarly-Hotep, the Hang Ten God
@cha53 жыл бұрын
Some Lovecraft scholars do think that Nyarlathotep was likely the narrator’s guide who betrayed him.
@andresr4880 Жыл бұрын
Great narration. Thanks for the upload. The 'normal' speed is a bit too slow; the breaths and the pauses. I put it at 1.25 and it was better, but it was at 1.5 that I could enjoy the reading.
@shimatta14 жыл бұрын
A random inspiration that popped into my head while listening: "What dire horror prompted the archaeologist to seal again the tomb away from humanity? And what vile necessity prompted him to do so *from the inside?*" ...and a random chuckle at the names given to the donkeys at 25:52. :P
@avramcybele90184 жыл бұрын
Hey how'd Houdini get here what the heck
@GodOfPlague4 жыл бұрын
He's a slippery fellow
@avramcybele90184 жыл бұрын
@Gary Lorette what???
@avramcybele90184 жыл бұрын
@Gary Lorette who the hell are you talking to? I was just amused by Houdini working with Lovecraft and I made a joke.
@moonchildsfaeryrealm.39714 жыл бұрын
AWESOME
@tobypack63282 жыл бұрын
Happy Halloween 🎃 2022
@sub-jec-tiv2 жыл бұрын
Love this reading, thanks Ian. And a great Lovecraft story (as usual, if you ignore some of the racist language… HP sure did love comparing non-whites to savages). But wow, the imagery near the end is riveting and horrific. He really was a unique voice in fiction, and though a product of his time, laid much groundwork for future combinations of sci-fi and horror. When you think about it, the unknown inherent in science fiction is perfect territory for horror.
@Ace010104 жыл бұрын
No way?!?! This is so cool. Also First lol
@mandolemite10 ай бұрын
When I visited the pyramids at Giza, I got overcharged for some postcards and missed the coach back to the hotel. I think that I got off lightly compared to this story!
@Thestephouse14 жыл бұрын
❤
@ryleeguy27634 жыл бұрын
I was just watching Yu-Gi-Oh with my kids and thought the Egyptian theme was a real good one, I didn’t know hp actually dabbled in it. Nor did I know that he wrote something with Harry Houdini, really? He always mentions Egypt in passing to say how old his gods are but this is neat. Your channels is very educational on his material, i’ve been entertained and learned so much.
@blakmajk35123 жыл бұрын
👍🏼👍🏼
@pawprints14033 жыл бұрын
You need to start a podcast channel
@eldonjamesnebriagabrownii25024 жыл бұрын
Ok had to cook breakfast dinner rewind
@Thomas-wn7cl4 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍
@fawndoll1903 жыл бұрын
as a nonwhite person i keep forgetting how uncomfortable it is to enjoy the horror made by a xenophobic, chronically depressed, chronically terrified of everything that wasn’t himself, person and an equally nutty magicianman. but damn your voice is nice.
@sarahstardust4 жыл бұрын
Typical Houdini, ever the skeptic! Comes face to face with the supernatural and convinces himself it must have been all a dream 😅
@julietfischer50564 жыл бұрын
Under the circumstances, wouldn't you? Especially without evidence?
@sarahstardust4 жыл бұрын
@@julietfischer5056 probably. I was just amused because it fits well with what I've heard about him. That's all.
@buukaczi3 жыл бұрын
They should've titled it ENTOMBED with pharaohs. Geez.
@Duchess_Van_Hoof2 жыл бұрын
Oh right, it was just a dream. And dreams are harmless as we know.
@luciddreamer6164 жыл бұрын
Dead less than two years later. Sad.
@richardwilliams53873 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's ironic but it's funny to hear a Lovecraft "character" bemoan "This country is too full of Western/white influences!" Lol.
@Saladin01272 жыл бұрын
55:00
@bholdr----010 ай бұрын
Re: Lovecraft and Houdini- apperantly they had, prior to the latter's death, planned to collaborate on an exposě of the blatant and cheap charlatanisim of the 'spiritualist'' movenemt which was popular at the time- seances, ouiji, ghosts, etc, with Houdini debunking their con-artistry, it's methods and fakery, and with Lovecraft contributing the writing of such. Unfortunately, Houdini's premature death and Lovecraft's lack of widespread fame and marketability at that time put an end to the proposed project. There is some evidence of such a project as it existed in its formative stages preserved in Lovecraft's correspondence. Lovecraft, like Houdini, despite their careers and interests which seemingly embraced the paranormal / supernatural, were profoundly materialistic and utterly atheistic- in particular when it comes to their categorical dismissal of the popular, contemporary 'Spirtualism' as exemplified and spread by A.C. Doyle, seances, ghost-hunting,. etc: but Houdini died: Thus, the aformentioned projected collaboration was lost to the vagaries of chance. It's something I would loved to have read- a 1930's era James Randi style exposě, written by H.P.L, of all people, with HOUDINI!. (As long as HPL could've kept his rampant xenophobia jn check, which is doubtful, TBH.)
@Rich-Richards4 жыл бұрын
Turin? On to something
@lylacor84013 жыл бұрын
Again Warren? I guess it's a good thing you figured the Konami code out.
@illmade24 жыл бұрын
Excellent reading, not one of my favorite Lovecraft stories but well done. Lovecraft's collaborations have more often than not, felt a little uninspired to me.
@bobbymarcum7724 жыл бұрын
I like the stories he ghost wrote where he takes the simple storyline, makes short work of it, and then goes on for 6 hours doing whatever the heck he wanted, like The Mound
@julietfischer50564 жыл бұрын
@@bobbymarcum772 - For 'The Mound' he was given the two Native American ghosts and the burial mound. That was it.
@bobbymarcum7724 жыл бұрын
@@julietfischer5056 precisely what I like. He kind of made fun of the Binger residents (incidentally binger is an hour from here and hometown of baseball hall of fame catcher Johnny Bench lol) when they said the sentry was a ghost or ghosts, but you know it is a really intriguing idea which he developed
@jehovasabettor90804 жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone had a bad trip, and then got excessively eloquent about it
@dianecheney41417 ай бұрын
I want to record a "You Fool, Warren is dead"
@myheadhurts19274 жыл бұрын
Freeky
@Hawbitten2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry. You did your best Mr Gordon. But nothing can make the phrase "Licked it's chops" scary. Sounds like something out of a book for children! :P (I still like you though)
@yogsothoth53704 жыл бұрын
I think this story might be made up.
@Turtles214 жыл бұрын
Yuo*
@alison13094 жыл бұрын
I love Horror Babble, and in particular Ian's narration. However when it comes to Lovecraft stories, I struggle to deal with the obviously racist remarks Lovecraft makes in many of his tales, (e.g. his remarks about the bedouin, and use of the term 'native' which, at that time at least, was frequently used in a derogatory sense). I do recognise the important contribution of Lovecraft to the horror genre, and whilst I also know these are historic viewpoints not shared by the makers of or contributers to Horror Babble, I do think, that it would be appropriate in 2020 to edit out those parts of the story, for, surely, we want to celebrate his craft in horror story telling, not his divisive cultural or political views.That said, Horror Babble remains one of my top channels and I do particularly like having access to the older horror masters and Ian's own contributions. Thankyou for your entertaining work its been a haven for me in this present time.
@robertprado51254 жыл бұрын
Why would you want to alter classic works of art because you have a problem with the way certain words are used?
@rheinhartsilvento25764 жыл бұрын
If you edited out all parts of classic or famous authors' works that had been found objectionable by various subsequent generations, there wouldn't be much left to read. You can't amputate a work of a part of its content, and then pretend to present the original. People are informed and mature enough to form their own opinion, and entitled to read/hear the complete work - including the objectionable parts. I want to read the real thing, not what some rando decided i should be allowed to read/hear.
@darcyshaw49384 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice any racism. He didn't appreciate the native culture sure that's obvious. But it isn't racist. And who are you defending? Why are you offended? You're a native to a place and culture someone doesn't like. Is that person racist too?
@saulmighty4 жыл бұрын
If censoring authors has not been appropriate for thousands of years, why would 2020 suddenly be the exception? Listening or reading a book does not mean you agree with everything the author thinks or that you "celebrate" everything the author or the book. Don't you have the ability to ignore the parts and ideas you do not like? How come readers have been able to cope with authors they disagree with for hundreds of years of our history but suddenly this has become an issue now? Doesn't this mean that readers today have *lost* an ability that previous readers have had? If people can't handle light adversities such as reading a book that has content they don't like, they are lacking skills needed in life in general. Overly protecting people is a fool's errand and not good in the long run. I'm saying this as someone who suffered from an overly protective childhood... (The word "struggle" reminded me of this newer phenomenon, which requires people to have a certain mindset that thinks "people, even adults need to be protected from subjectively objectionable content (either intended or not) by any means necessary, even censorship". This is an extremely inefficient "nanny" type of system, where everyone needs to always think of how anyone else might feel about something. The fruits of this has not been good so far IMO. When you find out you can't control other peoples' thought and ideas, it can lead to elevation of intolerance and hatred towards them.)
@rheinhartsilvento25764 жыл бұрын
@@darcyshaw4938 As much as I stand by my earlier post, I must say that I find your remarks disingenuous, almost appearing to be deliberately obtuse. Lovecraft's remarks, repeated in numerous stories, referring to non-Anglo-Saxon people (in other words, most of the human race), are pretty much the definition of racist. I seem to recall words like 'half-caste', 'mongrel', 'dark, teeming masses' and other ominous, contemptuous or animalistic vocabulary used to describe non-Anglo-Saxons. I don't recall it all of course, but would definitely be able to check. These kinds of words, expressing a clear distaste, fear (yes, a lot of fear), contempt, distrust and hate, as well as distance towards other races, ethnic and social groups, ideological groups - were very much part of published discourse, of the nationalistic/communist zeitgeist of the 20's and 30's. Lovecraft's adult years. He was indeed not outstanding or remarkable in his views and vocabulary - it was shared by most of Western civilization. (Other civilizations not being at all immune from "othering" (sorry about this terrible word), diminishing and dehumanizing others: the Hindu caste system, the Muslim believer/non -believer (with non-believer being "less-than"), slavery in most civilizations, human sacrifice of the Aztecs znd Phoenicians), and so on. But i must say that quite independently of any of the latest "SJWs", public and personal sensibilities have very much evolved in the Western world since Lovecraft's time, so much that that i find many press articles, essays or books of the period quite unpalatable. And so do most people today. (As a very high-level example, check out Louis-Ferdinand Céline, for example) The overweening contempt of others, the hateful and or/condescending way of talking about others contained in gvese writings is not something i can personally stomach for more than maybe half a page. So no, it's not about Lovecraft "not liking" certain groups or cultures - he couldn't "not like" American Indian cultures for example, for the simple reason that he didn't know anything about them. And what he did read was very probably the usual negative projections mixed with ignorance and bad faith that constituted "knowledge" about them for most people. This ignorance clearly didn't stop him from considering them beneath his investigating and understanding efforts Such an attitude is pretty much the definition of prejudice and racism.
@whynottalklikeapiratАй бұрын
Discarded working titles list in chronological order of development: - “Something-something Antediluvian” - “Pyramid Games” - ”Hot Step-Mummy” (set in Machu Picchu on a particularly sunny day) - “Houdini In The Faroes” - “Phara-OH!” - “Phara-ohNO!!!” - “Impous Pharaos” - “Impertient Pharaos” - “Impersonated By Some Pharaohs” - “Impressed With The Pharaohs” - … At this point the creative team is said to have felt like they were getting close …