Horse Training for the Stop & Back Up - Basic training to sliding stops for reining & cutting.

[@Lillybust]

This has worked so well with my paint gelding. I visualize the brick wall and squeeze his sides and he backs. Amazing! No one has ever taught me this before.... it's so different than pulling back on his mouth...! Thank you!

[@niocreysekatem]

Walking off is a problem I have had for a long time. Your instructions are so clear thanks for this lesson.

[@shequest1]

This video is very clear and concise... cueing the horse and explaining at the same time, makes it very easy for any level of riding.

[@karebear41486]

This video is great! Your explanation of how improper position in the saddle can allow the horse to pull you forward and pull through the bit is the exact problem that I am having. Thanks a bunch! Can't wait to start utilizing your technique!

[@maukequine]

i watched this video a couple of days ago...rode my horse today and felt that i was better but still not as good as i'd like to be..just watched again and plan on working harder on my form...you do a great job covering all the pieces and parts of stopping for the horse and the rider..if i can ever lean to sit on my butt i'll be able to get a good stop...

[@ltrocha]

You ask a very good question. Because of that, I'm happy to help. It's my opinion, a horse should be shod behind when he starts stopping hard enough to slide a few feet. If the horse is going to be a reiner, I'd put 1" sliders on him with a rocked toe. Do NOT extent the trailers past the bulbs of the foot. Larry T.

[@OpHondseWijze]

Thanks so much for this video! It was very helpful for me. My horse had already learned how to back up with his previous owner and after I tried it after watching this video it went perfect!

[@JTsHorses]

I want to thank you for taking the time to make this video.It has been helpful with my new horse that just doesnt like to stop..The pressure and release method seems to work with most horses.

[@samcordingley2052]

Hi Larry, I'm glad you put this video up as I used the "set the wall" method with my girl today and there was a remarkable difference when it came to stopping her...thank you so much! You helped a lot!

[@ladyvistas]

Thanks Larry!! I liked how you broke this down to help me understand how to apply this concept. I can see this should work and look forward to trying it out and getting a better stop on my horses. I also enjoyed how you broke down the body position arm and fingers, these are all important to know if we want to get the same results that you are. Thanks again!!

[@herbalmother1]

Fantastic! so well explained and easy to understand,I am telling everyone to watch I wish I could get some lessons from you but you are too far away. I often just go back and refresh my technique after watching your lessons.Really inspiring! Thank you!.

[@SelenaDemiLover510]

Thank you for this video! I had a accident on a horse before. And it took off galloping and i tried to stop him and i flew off his back. I lost my confidence and havnt ridden at more than a trot for 3 years. This video has given me more confidence and im ready to move up and regain that confidence that i lost that day! So thank you!!

[@DiamondSpirit1]

Thanks, Larry. I'm learning so many simple and effective tips from your dvds and newsletters. My horse just "gets it" so quickly - it leaves us both with such a great sense of achievement. No doubt I should also work on my timing and feel. Can't wait to get in the saddle and try it out! Thanks again.

[@annedavison7628]

I'm in the beginning stages with my mare. Going toward reigning training. This video hit the spot for today's work on stopping - brick wall.

[@kbellmck]

Can't tell you how much I appreciate your videos. Love getting your emails. Horses benefit from your clear, concise instruction. Thanks again. I have bought your videos and some training equipment, highly recommend them and they've been a huge help in making some pretty good horses for us.

[@ladyvistas]

I really enjoyed this video and your excellent way of breaking it down so that I can understand it. I look forward to trying it out, and getting a better stop on my horses. Thanks for also including the body position, arm position, and fingers as sometimes without someone breaking it down we don't always see it all and then we don't get the same results, so thanks again. I look forward to learning more.

[@KellyNMav]

Watching you along with listening really helps me "get it". I just want to go out and work my filly now! You are an exceptional communicator! Thanks!

[@MsRodeoFan]

This is excellant, can't wait to start working my mare with this stuff. Thanks for posting!!!

[@laurahmartin]

Excellent Larry...it's the simple stuff we all forget!

[@jwmbam3tx]

I loved it. It is a good refresher on what I learned a few years ago but have gotten a bit sloppy at. It also gives me a good program to follow to do some good concentrated training.

[@ltrocha]

@ladyvistas You are absolutely right. The way the rider uses his body is actually more important the the training method used on the horse. Take care, Larry T.

[@LilyAndBreesJourney]

I love your videos! Sooo incredibly helpful, I refer to them daily! I'm currently training my own cutting/reining horse and your videos are the building blocks of my training.

[@OhwhataCruise2]

Makes perfect sense. Good video TY. I am working two 4-5 yr old very green AQHA mares. I have just been trail riding since the 1980's when I quit showing and dealing with youngsters....lost all my training UMPF! Simple explanation. TY

[@ltrocha]

That's nice to hear, Bree. I'm glad you like them. Good luck training your horse. Larry T

[@mrschocolate87]

Brilliant. I like the way you explain and show that stuff. At this time I´m training my first Quaterhorse and since I saw the first videos of you here, I akt like this and hey... not a big surprise for you hmm... it works so well. Thank you to the best online trainer ever.

[@Melissaa1997Dressage]

This is great! I'am from Belgium and my english isn't that good but I understand it very good. I learn a lot from your video's

[@Horsegirl1789]

Hey Larry, I love watching your training tips and tricks. You are a great trainer! I am trying to teach my horse to pivot or turn on the haunches on the ground and mounted. And then gradually get faster for reining patterns. Also slowing down her lope and jog, She starts slow and then speeds up especially in the show arena when other horses pass her and she wants to catch up to them or other horsey friends! Thanks so much!

[@ThePippers]

I thank you alot for putting this video on KZbin :) You answered all the question and problems I happend to have when I tried to stop my horse :D Good job and thnak you !

[@nagasama75]

EXCELLENT, as always! look forward to trying this out, its pretty much what i have been doing but a little more refined. thanks mr trocha!

[@4mustangsandapaint]

Good Video, can't wait to try this, was wondering how to get my horse to stop better and back. Also explained why you use your feet to back a horse. Thanks Deann

[@sarahsheard4627]

that triple set-release was an aha! moment for me. Thank you.

[@TheCountrygal123]

you have the most helpful videos on youtube. thanks!

[@ltrocha]

@kbellmck Good to hear from you. Thanks a bunch for ordering my DVDs and training equipment. Your business is much appreciated. Larry T.

[@fernandorodriquez]

Good job Larry i learn a lot from your videos thank you

[@ltrocha]

You are welcome, Fernando. Thanks for your feedback.

[@ltrocha]

You are very welcome. I'm glad it worked well for you. Larry T.

[@pedanticvindictivema]

Got my pony going nicely with the Rein release kneck reining, going to try the stopping backing up as well, cool stuff :-)

[@herbalmother1]

great! clear and easiy understood,thank you for explaining so well these basics

[@ltrocha]

Boy, it's really nice to be appreciated!!! Thanks. LarryT.

[@ltrocha]

You are very welcome. I'm glad the information helped. Larry T.

[@RightOnQ62]

Excellent! I continually tell people of your videos.

[@ltrocha]

@downundercolour I'm glad this training technique worked well for your mare. Good luck with your future riding and training. Larry T.

[@piersremus]

that was a very good video! I will go now and check out some of your other videos! well done and really crisp in what you say and do! good job!

[@GypsyTarot]

Hi Larry. Thank you so very much for your super fast video response to my questions. I will fav this and work on it. Weeeeeeeeee !! Thanks! :)

[@LynelleHinkley]

Nice! I show my horse in Hunter under saddle and he hasn't mastered the back up yet. I think this will definitely help him. Adding releases during downward transitions is a great idea. I've gotten horses to do a smooth transition with just one set and release but it's difficult. I will definitely try adding more.

[@ltrocha]

Good luck and thanks for your feedback

[@1rls]

Great tips. I believe my horse does not have a handle because of his age and arthritis issues, but, this will help determine if that is really the case. Thanks, Larry.

[@TotalHorseMedia]

Fantastic instructions well communicated. Thank you for the free advice! Sal

[@ltrocha]

@williamskl1 my hat is off to you. It's refreshing to hear a person tell the truth concerning their horsemanship. It's been my experience that most folks exagerate quite a bit. We all have to start somewhere and it's no discrace to start at the bottom. I did. Good luck, Larry T.

[@shyleechambers1144]

i love the brick wall idea! definitely gonna try this with my mare :)

[@melissanewton-wilkerson4969]

Love your videos, you explain well what you are doing and you are easy to understand. Thanks

[@ltrocha]

Melissa Newton Thanks Melissa

[@bewildered75]

Thank you for replying to me. I've so far done nothing about buying one so I might look at the barrel saddle as it would work OK for trail riding and give me and the horse a feel for something different

[@HeatherDMorris]

Good stuff ! Love your videos . Thank you

[@ltrocha]

@KellyNMav You are welcome Kelly. Good luck with your horse training. Larry T.

[@ltrocha]

@pedanticvindictivema, that's the way to go! Good luck with the stopping. Larry T.

[@tinkerbelllove151]

i wish people in my area cared as much for horses as this guy does.people in WV seem to only care about four wheelers to go mudding and not having any intrest in one of the best creatures god put on this planet...i wish i knew people like this cowboy.

[@ltrocha]

Glad it worked for you, Sam. Larry T

[@nagasama75]

it works it works it works! this simple video has made a tremendous difference in how my green broke gelding stops and backs (and he is almost 8yo)...in like 3 days of training! still opening his mouth a little on backing, but he is getting better every day. thanks mr trocha, so useful as always! one question that i have been wondering... do you put a wrinkle at the corner of the mouth or no wrinkle? i use a 7/16 o-ring currently with 1 wrinkle at the corner of his mouth. seems to work well.

[@mihakabercic4457]

11 years ago jeez

[@gwp1ohio]

Excellent breakdown for a short video.

[@caz3e]

I really love these videos! The exercises help a lot! I love your training methods.

[@Oblivias.]

This is great!! this is a lot of help! thank you!

[@ltrocha]

@nagasama75, glad you are getting good results. I personally seldom have much of a wrinkle on most horses. However, you should go with what is working well for you on your particular horse. Larry T.

[@ltrocha]

@eza0911 Congratulations on your success. I'm glad this training technique worked for you. Larry T.

[@2phg2]

I can't wait to try this! Any other advice for softening a horse? My horse was ridden with really heavy hands with his previous owner... So he is somewhat difficult... And whenever i put pressure on the reins he just drops his head and runs right through it... I have always been as soft as possible with him, and release when he does stop, but it takes a lot of pressure to get him to stop...

[@downundercolour]

Excellent video Larry - thanks! I just watched this last night, and worked with my mare for a couple of hours this morning applying these stopping and backing techniques. It worked like a dream! I am just learning to ride, and your videos have been a huge help. I can't wait to get your DVD's. _______________________________ Scott Nelson Down Under Colour Home of the Most Beautiful Paint Stallion ever :-) ! Sonnys Mister Trubar (aka CHIEF) See videos of Chief on our channel!

[@sassyaussie94]

Hi Larry, I subscribe to your online newsletter, and its fantastic. At one point in your video you say "shake his head down" when you go to back up your horse.I assume you mean asking him to break at the poll by doing a see-sawing motion on the reins, is that correct? Also, what are the steps to get a horse to break at the poll, I understand that on a trained horse will flex like this, but what about when a horse resists? As in, they stiffen their jaw and neck. Thanks!

[@sunnydaz33]

Loved your video! It is very helpful. My newly trained horse seems to be stopping with his front end. What is the best way to change this? Thank you! Diane

[@honeycolonna283]

Thank you for this amazing video im a beginner and this helps alot

[@ltrocha]

+Honey Colonna You're welcome, Honey.

[@ltrocha]

@idelarr , yes, it is possible but more than likely it's more of a training problem than a wrong bit problem. I would use a standard, ring snaffle bit first.

[@atwdoceanics]

Great video...I wonder about relaxing my feet in order to center my weight on horse as a cue to stop. What is your thought on this?

[@pteJames]

I am looking to learn to ride thanks for the info!

[@ltrocha]

@mary95220 You use your legs to get the horse to move and the bit prevents him from going forward so he's forced to step backward. You reward his backward steps by a release of pressure immediately following each step. You ask for more steps gradually over time. If the horse isn't responding to your legs, he's not going to step backward. The key is making the horse respond to your legs. If he won't respond to your bare leg, then spurs probably will. Start with a medium-sharp 10-point rowel.

[@ltrocha]

@wiltonserenity You are very welcome. Glad you liked it.

[@jzr25]

Great way to the teach the horse to push against the bit - Just release the reins before the horse gives and softens.

[@surrak]

Thank you for all your helpful videos, I had one question. I have a 5 year old gelding, who stops with "whoa" instantly. I've been working on stopping using my body and have been successful in the walk and trot, but he does not respond to any sort of body cues to slow down or stop in the canter, any suggestions? Also, do you know any techniques to control a runaway horse without using the one-rein emergency stop? Thanks again!

[@sierramadrigal6536]

Howdy, my name is Sierra and I recently rescued a handsome, 9y/o, blue roan, geld out of Peponita blood lines. He was abused and turned aggressive by previous owners. I've done a lot of work with him to gain trust and took a certification class with this horse that was taught by Clay Harper. Clay was taught by Josh Lyons. My horse is no longer aggressive and has excellent ground manners. He is, however very spooky under saddle and pulls against the bit. I've been very consistent in "pressure and release" training and he is slowly making progress. He was orginally sold and trained as a cutting horse but the buyer made it all go south. My question for you is this; will training him back into cutting bring back any of the old aggression and memories associated with it? I work on a cattle ranch but is it even worth it to "re-start" an almost 10y/o in cutting? He's a spitt'in image of Pep!!! Sorry this is so long but the boy has quite the story behind him!

[@ltrocha]

+Sierra Madrigal I'd need to personally know the horse to answer your questions.

[@LuisFernandez-lk8ve]

Thank you very much for the video! Helps a lot

[@thedogtrainer1964]

Nice video, and very helpful.

[@Westernfarassi]

Thank you for the great input. I just learned the spur stop and it works well. But the problem now is that my horse is thinking to much backwarts. Sometimes when I am asking for trott my horse starts stopping. What are you thinking about the spur stop ? Greetings from Germany

[@Naturheilkunde1]

Thanks, that video helps finally

[@EmmyMoo87]

Hi Larry! Great video! Do you have any videos about making the green horse more supple? My AQHA gelding flexes and the pole great when he's backing up, but sometimes in the stops he shoves his nose out and tries to run through my hands. I always make him stop and then back him up (with leg, not just pulling backwards) when he does this, but I think its more of a flexion problem and less of a behavioral problem. Any tips? Thanks! Kate

[@HitsOutdoors]

Excellent video, THANKS

[@ltrocha]

You are very welcome. Glad you like it.

[@MaeIsMyBay]

Thanks so much!! Very helpful!

[@mechatapia1]

good video! there is a chance to do a clinic for a week? Im rider from argentina

[@ltrocha]

@DiamondSpirit1 you can improve the "propping of the front legs" by doing a 360 and leaving, immediately after the stop. Make certain you are NOT pulling on him when stopping. Larry T.

[@ltrocha]

@dutchfilly You are very welcome. Glad I could help.

[@AgentBlonde420]

My horse is really hard to stop and i WILL try your tecnique.....Thank u summerider12

[@ltrocha]

@RightOnQ62 thank you. I appreciate that. Larry T.

[@AveryWiersema]

Hi Larry, My name is Avery, and my Horses name is Coolest Rock. Rock does all around to the limit. I seriously can't think of one thing he doesn't do... But I've lately been having trouble with his reining. I would like to re-start his training in Reining. What bit do you recommend for Starting Reining? What would you recommend once we're at an experienced level? Thanks!

[@ac12201]

Great information.. Thank you very much

[@ltrocha]

@Cheez183 Your mare is doing this because there is too long of a release between your "sets". The releases should only be a split second. Larry T.

[@ltrocha]

@Susification hi, the pad is a Toklat woolback with a suayed outer layer.

[@tgoodrum123]

Wondering whether a horse has to be shod in the rear to start training for the stop, and if not, at what point are shoes suggested? Are sliders recommended or is there something else that works as an interim shoe on the rear? Sorry for all the questions. Love the videos. Thanks!!

[@wyliecompany]

My 2nd horse could back up like this one. It was beautiful Yonaguni horse that I had met on the small Japanese island of Yonaguni in the southwest waters of Japan. "The pride of the island," is how the locals referred to their specific breed of horses. I won my horse and had it flown back to my small ranch in Van Nuys, California. I named him Seamus O'Brian after a mountain of a man that I had befriended in the years before. Seamus was a truly a great guy who loved his drink and welcomed all into his circle with quickness and ease. As long as you were true to yourself, you were alright by him. Seamus, my horse on the other hand didn't care for the social norms of humans and remained staunchly devoted to his equestrian studies over late night outings with friends or a chance encounter with a mare. Seamus was nearly 25 hands tall which was very unusual for the local herd, Seamus stood out like a big brown star in the company of his family. I chose him after hours of playing Pachinko, a mechanical betting game and losing all my belongings, clothes and all to a sweaty fisherman on a bad run of numbers. I stretched my luck and doubled down against my fishy foe and waged my plane ticket home and vowed to become his lifelong apprentice if I lost, but if I won, I would land a windfall of his entire Pugnose Grenadier, the local blunt snout fish with a bluish tinge on the abdomen, all of my lost yen and a pick of the herd of his Yonguni horses. As kismet would have it, I won, Seamus was mine and we rode off into the sunset, which was the name of the bar across from the airport. Supporting the locals this bar had come accustomed to fishermen bringing their horses as dates since the male to female ratio was so tilted in favor of the local males. This caused quite a stir since I brought a male horse to a straight bar but I was well on my way home and in no mood to discuss my selection with the battered up bar flies. A story for another time maybe... I believe Seamus is capable of every trick in this commercial, a magical champion just like this one. Thanks for posting this.

[@hildeehill8575]

Fabulous video!!

[@daneycia]

Well, when I ride 2 hour rails and I want to trot for some of it, It kind of hurts to bounce a lot because my horse has a very bouncy trot. Plus, EVERYONE posts, western or English it doesn't matter. Thanks for the info too I will try it.

[@tgoodrum123]

Thank you so much! That's just exactly what I needed to know. tj

[@DiamondSpirit1]

Hi Larry, I justbought a 4 yo with100 days on him. He is so soft in front and I'm wondering if he is too soft. He doesnt like to take contact and goes happily with slack in the reins, stops, backs , neck reins .... But his stops are abrupt & proppy with the front legs. I've been work him long and low to get more contact and swing from his HQ. which helps. Am I doing the right thing? I dont want to undo any fab training he has. Sincerely, Karen from Aust. .

[@waymire01]

If you want something you can show in, a quality Western saddle will be much heavier than the english you are used to.. there is a lot more leather and wood involved. One way to check for quality is to feel the weight, a well made saddle will be much heavier than a cheap one. If you want something light weight to practice in you might try a barrel saddle, they are designed to be light so you can still get quality without it being so hard to handle.

[@DiamondSpirit1]

Further to this, I wonder if he has had training aids used on him too early in his training - can easy stops, etc have this effect if used too soon? Which one of your dvds covers getting the horse to travel well and really use himself correctly? All the best, Karen. Could you recommend one of yours which covers these issues?

[@ltrocha]

@BrendenHoff Yes, if you practiced this consistently, it would work on your english horse. Start at using this technique at the walk. Once the horse understands, then you can move up to the trot. Larry T.

[@tatummaartje297]

Hi I have a paint made 13 years old she's English and western and i am dealing with. Horse that throws her head up in the air if I ask for a stop or back any tips please I need this asap thanks :)