Hot Brakes vs Cold Brakes! BeamNG. Drive

Another braking test!
This time, we're gonna see how much ambient temperature affects stopping power
on both drum and disc brakes!
Enjoy!
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[@Al93271]

Idle car's brakes: 29°C Driving car's brakes: *89°C* F1 car brakes at peak: *_1 0 0 0 °C_*

[@rafaelcerqueira6117]

Lol

[@anaccount1]

Ikr not that hot

[@BR_UH0007]

My pc while playing: 95°C

[@mrpiese1295]

@@BR_UH0007 My pc while OCCT

[@HaXD1209]

@@anaccount1 it is THAT hot. In fact nearly all racing cars brakes can reach that temperature. Going from 300 to 0 in 150M requires heat

[@SkyboundMar]

I noticed how you used the red cars for hot and blue cars for cold lol

[@szpecunio]

Congrats

[@T-y-39]

Quite clever actually

[@justinjefferson1888]

Bruh, ur a genius

[@phoneticalballsack]

they tought us how to write cursive, and they teach this guy to recognize that the color red is associated with heat... what a prodigy

[@ch0005649]

Brilliant

[@cameronjones1283]

I think these tests were inconsistent especially if I can visibly watch the cars break at different points. Plus I think there's a screen app that would show you your stopping distances to give us a perfect accurate data.

[@robert.39]

To incosistent for me :))

[@fishrsa9046]

the app kinda sucks because the timer will continue to run because of the car swinging on the suspension even after the car has stopped driving

[@brunoseabra8089]

Also the tire temperature changes too cuz of the way he changed the temperature

[@keloduma]

Yupp

[@xlii_]

Plus you would have to run without abs

[@deadmemes2053]

I think if its 150C out side ill have bigger issues than the braking distance of my car

[@theyhatedrizzyyy]

150Celsius is 302 Fahrenheit that's hot

[@AdamSchell303Racing]

That would be hell on earth for real.

[@zerosd15ds43]

The brakes are 150°, not outside 💀

[@lesdentsdefreezecorleone8908]

@@theyhatedrizzyyy for a brake, nooo

[@theyhatedrizzyyy]

@@lesdentsdefreezecorleone8908 yeaaahh I know

[@J2ko]

everyone gangsta till it's engine operating temperature outside

[@kjp-sy8uf]

Or graphics card operating temperature, most engines operate at 90°c and my gpu hits that

[@Noooo23523]

@@kjp-sy8uf oil or water in the engine is at 95 normally and gets cooled nonstop to not go over overheating point the engine has parts in it that work at houndreds of degree i think

[@Noooo23523]

@@kjp-sy8uf and cpu cores can make heat in such a small point its like the sun

[@reactandgame7215]

This man's reaction time is fascinating 😂

[@safersisic9562]

he have the reaction time of a dead horse xD

[@Dia1Up]

As the video went on, he got much more consistent heh

[@jjmmjj9999]

Could I suggest a remake of this? Prehaps, using a macro to brake after a set amount of time? I think a fail proof and very repeatable macro would be: Left mouse click After 7 seconds brake key Hover mouse over the cruise control button Initiate the macro - click and then countdown and brake This way, both cars and all speeds will brake at the exact same time to leave absolutely no room for error Curious to see how they'll perform then

[@midlifeparty]

Isnt there also a braking distance app in beamng.drive? So the accuracy would be great with the macros and the app

[@DarkIzo]

and same tires for every test car

[@feiks420]

yeah thats what i also thought about - the braking time is very inaccurate

[@mxblaze6784]

Breaking is very in accurate he breaked too late and too early almost every run

[@chaboiethz7483]

In addition all cars should be the same,eliminating variables like weight etc

[@RAPXZibit]

1. Use brake distance timer, app called “performance”, included by default - measures distance and time 2. Test stock brakes with upgraded tires - less room for variables 2.1 Great accuracy can be achieved with increased total grip of surface and increased speeds - test brakes on sticky drag strip (ofc you need to change stickiness of this road, or maybe increase grip for tires via file) 3*. Test also different types of brakes on one car, stock discs, sport and race variants

[@Domestic_Tedster]

Oooooo!! I wonder if turbos are effected with temperatures in beamng

[@johnnygeorgopoulos4072]

Well, once they go over about 1500°c they overheat and then bye bye boost

[@justagamer182]

@@johnnygeorgopoulos4072 well I'd say it goes at 69420

[@99thpeanut59]

I’ve overheated one a few times before. Slowly loses boost.

[@Stanley88845]

They are, when they get too hot they loose boost

[@mrboss724]

@@justagamer182 no

[@hamstirrer6882]

Do any of the cars in beam have simulated carbon ceramic brakes? Those would show a very noticable difference between hot and cold.

[@alexmissio2230]

Yes, if you use full race brakes the difference between cold and hot brakes is noticeable

[@d.muller5944]

Yeah I would love to see a remake with race brakes.

[@michaelsmith7818]

I notice how almost every car passed the cone and brakes were applied at different points

[@Sak-zo1ui]

The real issue is the vehicles were in gear and rpms were at different points helping the vehicle slow down. A proper test would put the car in neutral and hold 60mph. Using time rather than distance would be an easier test to see the differences in braking performance.

[@Makarov13778]

*_Press F11 to enter world editor!_* Me with almost 1000 hours of gameplay: *WHAT????*

[@herraberg9272]

Is it just me or is he braking late on almost everyone

[@speedhunter7497]

Its the AI braking

[@sekutofu6471]

realisticly if u use the brakes at -100c° they will just crack to the sudden raise of tempeture

[@zebrahunter6956]

Realistically, you the driver would have frozen to death

[@sekutofu6471]

@@zebrahunter6956 exactly XD

[@ajemajh]

@@zebrahunter6956 big brain

[@alias_aka_alias]

Even if the Driver has an EV suit and the brajes wouldn't explode, the tire wouldn't react anymore

[@agrisimfarming]

*taps forehead “You don’t need to brake if you are dead”

[@jorge8596]

In order for this test to depend entirely on the brakes you should've used the grippiest tires available, heavier cars and higher speeds

[@tiutubanana7506]

Remember that he is not only changing brake temperature, he is also changing tyre temperature. Plus cold ambient temperature helps the brakes not to overheat. So not the best experiment in my opinion :c

[@Feliche2000]

Does beamng has tire temp?

[@phoneticalballsack]

@@Feliche2000 nope

[@Matt-di6nb]

YES! Thanks so much for showing how to change temperature!

[@spoons1153]

So basically hot drums are better than cold drums and cold discs are better than hot discs. I’d imagine the material has something to do with it as well.

[@hubertkam7647]

its different in real life cold disc dont work very well

[@FSXgta]

I think temperature slider might be added in full version/or later. but for now it seems the devs are more worried about the basics, details later

[@fishrsa9046]

Use slow motion (alt+left/right arrow keys) and a straight line across the road to have a more precise braking point, the points are uneven for the cars so they aren't lined up properly relative to eachother in the end according to how long it took for them to stop

[@---ls5qd]

Nice video! May you do another episode where you compare street-, sport- and racepads. Because the effective temps are much different for the different pads.

[@boilingcrab267]

bro i love your videos so much i have post notifications on👍🏻👍🏻

[@jamesstillgames]

dude! is your reaction time like messed up or something. it takes like a second for you to "stomp on the brakes" after the bollard

[@theblitz1687]

As long as brakes arent overheating, hot temperatures should consistently stop earlier.

[@rodromindustries8714]

excellent video, I love these types of videos, good selection red for hot and blue for cold. XD

[@wilbur6089]

Props to the Devs for making the brake diagram thing bluish to signify the coldness, even though it is almost never looked at

[@thatguyalex2835]

Developers are a talented group of people in general. It takes skill, way beyond any human, it seems. I can barely get Python 3.0 to work with me in Jupyter Notebook. Lol...

[@J-Crash]

Better way to do this video would be to sue replays. (while recording the replay) 1. Pause the game to allow all vehicles to accelerate at the same time 2. Once they get to the end, pasue game again to allow them to stop at the same time I'm pretty sure this would help.

[@Asgard2693]

Your braking was way off, I'll test myself.

[@nannettenieuwenhuizen1510]

I love all your videos

[@integrationofmanandmachine4714]

thanks for showing how to change the temperature otherwise i couldn't stand without searching about it :))))

[@brbeast185]

Thank you for that tutorial at the beginning

[@racer927]

Overall: it seems cold brakes fare better than warm brakes due to being able to absorb more energy to a certain point. When the brakes are extremely cold, I think that the shoes/discs have contracted to the point that the calipers don't squeeze as hard as they do on warmer, more expanded shoes/discs.

[@lol-de4lo]

Nah, they just forgot to program it

[@bmwe39racer]

Good video dude

[@marcs6970]

Awesome 👏🏻

[@kleetus92]

I think there's a glitch in the game. Cold brakes do not work as well as up to temperature brakes. Notice I did not say hot brakes. Each pad or shoe compound is going to have it's optimal operating range. This is why you should not use 'race' pads for street use on your car. If some idiot pulls out in front of you, by the time the brakes generate enough heat to start making serious friction, you've hit the car. I don't know that BeamNG has detail down to that level... maybe they do... but in any case for the same conditions, cold brakes should always take more time to stop than normal operating temperature brakes.

[@MrMattIsHigh]

Dude seriously thx for doing the tutorial to change the temperature I wanted to do that

[@GraveUypo]

initial brake temps shouldn't matter much, it'll shoot up to hundreds either way. for tire grip on the other hand, that matter a lot more

[@dima-ho6cx]

6:08 head blew.

[@thatsimracer666]

it looks his heating the whole car thats why

[@mitza3613]

*_Subaru_*

[@dima-ho6cx]

@@thatsimracer666 oh

[@dima-ho6cx]

@@mitza3613 LOL

[@jpleorx77]

I also wonder how well is tire grip simulated in BeamNG and whether changing temperatures had any affect on tire grip levels. If so the changes in grip would influence braking distances more than the actual brake temperatures.

[@pythonboi5816]

I liked the video just because you needed to know how to apply temp. Thx Oh and I’d just like to say this isn’t the too accurate. The time you start breaking is a bit off

[@shadup7571]

Tnx for showing me the world editor option. Now I dont have sky in the game

[@samjustice683]

Is the coefficients of friction on the surface changing with temperature? Or is the temperature change only on the brakes? Seems like the entire environment is affected by the temp.

[@yourbigfan1777]

I wish there was a mod to actually perform these kinds of tests much more accurately

[@Fregatte86]

Glow brakes mod? It's good

[@BRKZZ_]

Do you know how to put pops and bang in beamNG? Or flames in exhaust?

[@ekamjotsingh8705]

I want to know aswell

[@arthurlima176]

@@ekamjotsingh8705 just remove the exhaust

[@BRKZZ_]

@@arthurlima176 I just wanted to see a lot of fire coming out of the back of the car like the Nissan GTR, Supra or Mustang

[@arthurlima176]

@@BRKZZ_ a straight piped exhaust will do it

[@ForgottenMustard]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bavZgaVtac1-f5o

[@ryshawn87]

People have to remember that it’s simple heat transfer. No matter the temp as long as the brakes can transfer the kinetic energy they gonna do their job

[@simonw2631]

My question is, how do you not lock up the wheels bcs on these old cars when i play i can’t brake without locking up (on keybord tho)

[@ffran41]

Good video mate! But this is not only a brake test, it's also a wheel grip test. You realized?

[@ataro8271]

When the point comes he only brakes after he has passed it 30 meters

[@Gameboy-sj5nx]

Nice video

[@alias_aka_alias]

Tire temperature: Am i a joke to you?

[@leanderbuerger1660]

Thank you for explaining how to Change Temperatur! But how can i get in the editor when my f11 Key is a shortcut for my computer? Please reply Thank you

[@yunalesca_night_sky8998]

Press fn then 11

[@leanderbuerger1660]

@@yunalesca_night_sky8998 Thank you very much!

[@yunalesca_night_sky8998]

@@leanderbuerger1660 No problem!

[@Takazikano]

Me in the car: 😎🥶😳🥶🥵🥶🥵🥶💀💀

[@AutoSR]

Carbon Ceramics would be interesting.

[@beachmonkey1990]

I assume the tyre would also be at a different temp, that’d have a huge impact on braking

[@rextransformation7418]

Hmh... To be more precise there should have been an automatic breaking system that would activate by itself on the same exact position for every car. Breaking slightly later or earlier does change the outcome.

[@adnaneouarid189]

Tires played big role here

[@evanhadyanmd1313]

As far as I know, the max temperature of normal brakes is below 200 ° C, except for the caliper made from carbon ceramic

[@abysswalker2403]

u should have used the braking distance widget. these tests seemed slightly inconsistent with response times

[@user-lm6tx3bx7n]

On some runs he was so off on the braking

[@MrIggybo]

Look at the brake indicator, not the cars themselves. Brakes take some time to reach full braking power.

[@dasharoundtheworld7118]

1:27 for brake test

[@terrantum4813]

hehe. teacher: what’s so funny? Me: nothin. Me: All Cars Have ABS 0:18

[@vincea1830]

Brakes work by converting rotational energy into heat

[@YansenHaryanto4547]

The limiting factor on this video is tyre grip during cold test

[@ataro8271]

killing reflexes

[@gigakubica3264]

Exactly

[@joshr7434]

How do you pull up the monitor for cars stats?

[@bryanross1100]

My only concern with this experiment is the tires. Cold tires get less grip. The ABS light flashing shows that the tires are affecting the experiment. But maybe temperature doesn't affect tires in this game in which case, ignore everything I just said

[@rosaliedollente1651]

What i learned: the more the heat the better the colder worser for disck brakes and its upside at drum brakes

[@cmdrratzass7305]

Well, I guess driving in temperatures around 150°C or -150°C would make a much bigger difference in real life. Somehow the tires don’t seem to be affected by ambient temperature at all.

[@slayerficated]

wouldn't this effect the tire temp and road temp too?

[@ferdi_the_shark577]

Ohh thas hot

[@PotatoeJoe69]

BeamNG seems to think that all brakes work like F1 Carbon brakes, where they need to be very hot to function well

[@zocker717]

How do you do this at the top left with the brake temperature

[@kanovic472]

Also it depends on your reaction time ;)

[@vectorcruzusa]

Were you trying to brake after the bollard?

[@lucasdilodovico5995]

Am I the only one who saw him brake late for cold every time but braked immediately for hot

[@psicho222]

with abs, stopping on any brakes will be about the same

[@LAPD071]

Хей бро, огромное спасибо за подсказку(как изменить температуру). если бы не посмотрел твое видео, дальше бы и находился в недоумении, ты просто лучший, лайк+подписка, красавчик!!!

[@chincemagnet]

Your reaction speed is the largest factor

[@AlessandroArgese]

Very good work, but let me ask: why ABS even to drum brakes cars?

[@elgrandecaro]

Just food for thought, these tires are at their limits, and you can only stop as fast as your tires let you. If you revisit this test, I suggest changing the tires to better tires, so abs isn’t kicking in and the tires aren’t at the limit

[@edward002gaming]

Cool a hudson hornet

[@lavalamp3773]

Imagine thrashing your engine at 6000 rpm on a 150 C day. 😂

[@kennysar]

Imagine 150°C day

[@alfire2345]

I learn one thing hirochi sunburst have a better coolant than the other ( I didn’t pay attention to that before )

[@Peresecta]

How can I see in the game the temperature of the brakes? I dont find any setting to see it

[@nancitomp]

I think that the tyre temperature also affected on the braking distance

[@MMT--Games]

There is no base folder how can i find it?

[@avinashdyasa]

Wont the surface temperature also change and play a role in this??

[@wtwyw9]

Bigger factors in breaking distance are tyre's and asphalt's temperature

[@29031994290]

this test was more about the tires than the brakes, since you have abs on

[@jaguarxj2208]

Читаю коменты и понимаю что никого ни русского не узбека 😐

[@yeah_channel6904]

плюс

[@theblitz1687]

it would be crazy good if you could somehow make them brake at the exact point. There seems to be some driver error here :)

[@ForgottenMustard]

I will fix that for the next video.

[@intiyazgamingchannel7344]

Which software your are using

[@MXMTBJASPER]

How do you change ambient temps in beam now

[@veladeignicao1864]

So at low speed temperature does not affect that much. Fading only shows up at very high temperature. It increases at high speeds too

[@vehicleboi5598]

average antarctic driver vs average saharan driver race

[@southernwulf3335]

So the conclusion is that disc brakes are better in cold than any other temperature and brake type. So what if you got both? Cuz I have front disc brakes and rear drum for towing.

[@Nathan15038]

Your brakes should be cool cuz then they will fade if u like break a lot which will lead to not being able to break

[@der_tijer5804]

I like that game

[@diaschtv8042]

How to enable ABS on any car? Because old cars don't have it

[@elisgrahn6768]

Am i the only one confused by the combination celsius and mph?