Hot Hatch Head2Head #7: Golf R vs Mini JCW

[@hampshirephoto]

Please accept my apologies for the dodgy audio in this video!! 😩

[@sirchickenfood8561]

Out of interest what size is are you number plates?, Thanks.

[@BOSS836]

What sort of app are you using to time the 0-60

[@leumamzepol121]

So have to make a new video the new 2020 mini jcw 306hp is a golf r killer

[@vitovw71]

Do it vs the Clubman JCW all4

[@Pablanguillas]

@@BOSS836 draggy

[@Marc-jz2sq]

The owner of the JCW could be a great car reporter, very natural in front of the camera .Good video

[@DueGreg]

I prefer the Mini.

[@rssummers7835]

Yeah

[@masmainster]

To be absolutely fair, this comparison should really have been against a VW GTI not the R.

[@2595220]

Again a 230bhp car vs 300? Whats the point? Id rather see the mini vs gti thats a much better comparison. Personally.

[@dha588]

The Cooper S is against the GTI. JCW vs Golf R.

[@2595220]

@@dha588 but there bhp are completely different to each other so AGAIN its pointless lol.

[@ADoughtyPhotography]

@@dha588 more horsepower AND a haldex 4WD system against a FWD Mini that starts at £10k less than a new Golf R starts at. Pointless test xD

[@froesesp]

The gti would have gone the same way.

[@blzy3333]

Mini def looks and sounds better. The Golf is just too plain looking imo

[@kevinrotge4774]

all thought I own a 2017 Golf R I think the mini cooper sounds better.

[@biggest_9956]

no

[@fastlane2111]

yes

[@Deathstaroya]

@Lolohi25Games ive got the pro exhaust.. is loud as fuck haha

[@RLT124]

@@Deathstaroya Omg me too haha

[@chirpywiggins5796]

Even with stock exhaust in sport mode it sounds better than the R. Can’t match it for pace but having driven both, the JCW is more fun to drive!

[@stevemelling8450]

Still confused why like some others have mentioned why compare a 300 bhp car against a 231 bhp car?next we compare a Ferrari 488 pista against a Kia picanto

[@hampshirephoto]

Can’t deny that a Pista vs Picanto video would be amazing.

[@Crespusk8]

Still confused why you write comments like a child :)

[@Lmbarrett83]

Explained in the video - Hot hatch head 2 head. They're both classed as hot hatches. The RS and A45 are more power than the golf in standard form. It's not like the categories lend themselves proper all round hot hatch testing - just a bit of fun.

[@tonytouchz757]

the issue isnt the comparison vs the 2 cars... but comparing speeds on cars with so much hp difference to tell which one is "better" is funny (made me laugh when he said that about 80 hp different isnt much, its 1/3 more ahah). As they say, if you judge a fish by its skills to climb a tree it will suck for sure. Everyone know you buy a mini for the fun go-kart feel that you cannot get in any other cars.

[@jvommen]

The only thing I see is chewing gum in his mouth…very annoying

[@gevorgnazaryan8720]

Well, the JCW still wins the cool factor

[@ng9033]

💀

[@Whiponized]

@@ng9033 what?

[@rssummers7835]

Yes

[@thefinestdetail7619]

Jcw all day The golf is an absolute beast of a car no questioning that but it’s just like minis have a more of a personality as a car and just seem a hell of a time to drive might be being biased here cause I’m a mini owner but hey 😂

[@adegreen2731]

Watched this vid and many others trying to decide between a 2 year old golf R or mini JCW. Didn't need the extra space of golf as wife has a Tiguan, but liked the idea of extra performance. It was that Vs the personality, looks and drive of the mini (think the golf just looked boring and felt a bit boring to drive). Ended up getting a mini JCW F56 in the end and still loving it 3 months later. Do I regret it yet? Not yet, although coming from a rear wheel drive it's odd getting wheel spin in 3rd in the wet as oppose to back end stepping out! There are a number of ppl that say it's not fair to compaire the 300bhp golf R with a 230bhp mini, actually I disagree. When you look at the power to weight ratios there is only actually 16bhp in it (176bhp Vs 192bhp / tonne).By the time you've then also taken into account the fact the golf also has an AWD system to drive the difference is even less. Granted the golf will always win a 0-60 shoot out by being 4 wheel drive. However, from 40mph to 90mph (where your most likely to use it) there is really is noting in it, well half a car length (up to 70 ;-) messing with a mate. This is kind of reflected in stats (see zeperf for example). So for me, I was willing to sacrifice the standing start performance of the golf for the character and drive of the mini. (Also one hell of a lot less of them about!)

[@jonathanpodmore5459]

Pleasure filming with you Luke. We know the speed thing would come up, nevertheless it’s all for fun!

[@hampshirephoto]

It was awesome, thanks again!

[@robfoxton9020]

It might be quieter but definitely sounds better. Mini has a bit of character and I think it looks better inside and out. The golf, to me, just looks a bit bland. Was surprised how quick the golf is though

[@petersothern2909]

didn't know the mini had 300 break and 4wd

[@bh2155]

I would buy the JCW just based on looks alone. In appearance it's a step above the golf

[@apfstig]

How can you make a video comparing these two... completely pointless test 🤬 MINI JCW all the way! Golf R boring

[@SeanWalkerSW]

Nice vid! Although the golf's exhaust was louder on start-up, the JCW's does sound good!

[@hampshirephoto]

Thanks Sean!

[@tackycomrade]

Those rear Union Jack lights are bloody gorgeous

[@MrDanielotterbeck]

I mean the Golf R and JCW are not even in the same price range... The Golf R is a good 12K more

[@paradox4431]

i love how during the audio test you stand a lot closer to your own car than the mini...

[@jeddeagleton4642]

Paradox but he also only went to two of the four exhausts

[@scottcampbell10]

1:21 is your spoiler extension lip coming off?

[@istevieee]

I agree with other, this is like comparing a hyper car against a super car. AWD vs FWD isn't really fair, let alone with 70bhp-ish more. It stomps the GTI though!

[@germi1]

I changed my manual Mini Cooper Clubman D (yeah, diesel) for a DSG Golf R MK7: The driving position is much better in the Mini (you seat lower), the clutch and gearbox was much better than that on the Golf R manual I tried (that's why I went for the R). As a conclusion having had the two cars, just for driving a Mini JCW is a funnier car to drive than the Golf. Needless to say the Golf is more practical and powerful.

[@tonytouchz757]

Exacly, 2 very different cars for different needs. Im going for a car that will be my own TOY car not a "our family car that does everything", to me yes the golf is nice but it isnt a "toy" car, it a well balanced car that does it all nicely

[@the___truth8038]

The golf R should be compared to the 306BHP, AWD Clubman JCW...or even better, the 2020 GP3!

[@gus_bz]

300hp car x 230 hp are you joking ??? Compare betwen gti .

[@bobka436]

very soon JCW will be a 306hp monster :)

[@YouriIsEenBanaan]

@@bobka436 Just the clubman and countryman for now

[@jduejfjffjffj]

Stage 1 +downpipe also 300 hp

[@gabriolinari]

i suggested why not taking the Mini GP3 instead, let's talk then ;-)

[@gus_bz]

@@gabriolinari Exactly

[@slamminx3]

Still waiting for the PP GTI 7.5 or even the new TCR, or clubsport?

[@Techjunkiero]

Thanks to this video I got myself a 2019 JCW in Emerald Grey color. Brilliant.

[@flipflopnhenny]

you should've compared the jcw with a golf gti instead as they have simillar engines..

[@HenryChinaski614]

Just took delivery of a 2022 Mini Cooper Countryman All4 JCW and wouldn’t trade it for the world. So much fun and so much thought put into design, both interior and exterior. Handles like a dream and is as quick as a rocket ship. Seems more of a proper adult vehicle and maintains a classic car feel. Thanks.

[@OnlineHipHopTV]

My dream car. Happy for you

[@robinhosleftfoot]

The new Clubman JCW 300hp will be a fairer test against Golf R. Try and do a comparison when it comes out.

[@philjay6188]

You need to get the door sills wrapped or coloured. It does my head in everytime you open your door!!

[@hampshirephoto]

Haha sorry!

[@jimjamthebananaman1]

Compare it against the GTI performance package

[@philipnorth9606]

Comparing a Golf R to a Mini, hilarious.😂

[@saboonemagsino3683]

"310hp vs 231hp 80 hp is not that much of a difference really" REALLY???

[@twistedsanity623]

Where I'm from the Mini JCW is nearly half the price of the Golf R (dealers take advantage of the insane brand loyalty) so there is no contest. Mini hands down for value.

[@SM347YT]

Finally catching up with these videos, great content as always!

[@2595220]

not really comparison tbh a 300 bhp car vs a 230. you might as well of tested my modded A3 tdi with 230 bhp.. would of got to 60 quicker too with AWD

[@LanceVance305]

Don’t understand mini don’t bring similar stats to the rivals. Own a Mulgari jcw

[@GingerHamster19]

Dylan G they do, the mini doesn’t compete with the golf! It does with the polo

[@elliothall9207]

@@GingerHamster19 the mini smokes the golf GTI

[@chain2001]

Great Vid.... Thanks Guys... I have had my JCW for about 3yrs now, same spec as the one in your video. (The BEST Colour Combo!) I have about 280 bph and 400nm from a plug and play which as transformed the car. May change it for the same spec but newer, undecided as I am still VERY HAPPY with what I got. Will be upgrading a few bits over the next couple of months, which should take up a few levels. Evolve Automotive have a series on a Mini Cooper S and took a stock engine from 192bph to 265bph, the also added, which I will be doing to mine a Wavetrac Diff, Bilstein Coilovers, Supersprint Exhaust and a Eventuri Intake, which is what I will probably do first as the upgrade funtions the bonet/hood scoop and makes the turbos sing! Also in the process of ditching the run flats now Mitch PCS are available in 18s

[@YouriIsEenBanaan]

If yours is left hand drive I'll buy yours

[@JohnKing-lw2sb]

Interesting video. Once you get past 250bhp, you really need 4WD to put power down from a standing start. I have the Cooper S F54 and the torque steer is agressive in standard form, it must be savage once mapped to 260-270bhp.

[@ZKozak-hp5vb]

toss the rft's, get proper tires and you'll be good with a remap.

[@omariharrison2553]

Jonathan seems like a cool dude. Such a good sport... The only two small cars I would ever consider driving.. a mini or golf..

[@OnlineHipHopTV]

Mini or Suzuki Swift sport for me. Golf might be a great car but it appearance often feels a bit generic and boring. Also being such a common car makes it a bit less appealing.

[@tonymatheson4129]

Crazy how times have changed when I was their age I had a 1.6 Orion and could only dream about a golf r

[@gabriolinari]

hi there, MINI fan here, can you re-do this challenge with the Mini GP3 please? that would be more fair comparision since it has 301HP ?

[@Ashleycb97]

The Golf would probs still stomp on it from a 0 to 60 perspective. It's the whole FWD vs AWD , the mini just can't put the power down.

[@BMW7series251]

Love the video HL. My sister in law has a Golf R and loves it. I'm looking at a 280 bhp Mini JCW!! Might be a fairer test!! Cheers.

[@hampshirephoto]

Thanks John!

[@Civicky]

They do look good in that colour ✌🏽

[@johnferraro6933]

A fair comparison would have been the Golf R and the MINI Cooper GP.

[@Ashleycb97]

Even if the mini was 300bhp like many stage 2 JCW are , being FWD it still wouldn't put that power down. :(

[@tonytouchz757]

who cares, none gets a mini for drag racing lol

[@Ashleycb97]

@@tonytouchz757 I guess the people who watched this video might have an interest , lol .

[@tonytouchz757]

@@Ashleycb97 nah, I watched because I like the jcw and just watch all videos. Also it doesnt say in the title "which one is the fastest?" else there would be no view at all because everyone already knew the golf was faster

[@Ashleycb97]

@@tonytouchz757 Those who are less informed would take the title at face value. Not everyone knows the golf is faster otherwise no one would watch the video. Anyways take care pal.

[@tunwicks]

JCW has character. VW's don't

[@JovanKorica1]

Just noticed you've got the blackvue dashcam setup, good choice. Had the same in my mk6 Golf, worked flawlessly! Another great vid Luke.

[@hampshirephoto]

Thanks Jovan!

[@k12rising]

Stage 2 JCW vs stock Golf R will be fair

[@SUPAPUCH]

Love the videos, just one thing I haven't been able to understand, and sorry if this is a stupid question, but what are you saying at the begging of all your videos? "I'm HONEST Luke here?"

[@hampshirephoto]

Haha thanks - I say ‘Hi everyone it’s Luke here’

[@ZKozak-hp5vb]

traded the R for a mini. Both manual. Reason I went to the mini was heal-and-toeing is nearly impossible in an R, the car just didn't seem as playful. It's so composed and will obliterate the mini when looking at the numbers. In the fun-to-drive category, the Mini obliterates the R. The amount of drama when going through mountain passes is hilarious. The R is built a little better, though the Mini seems more special and goofy. That's what it came down to for me - thrill factor. As noted, if you want to get there fast the R is the way to go. If you want to laugh every 2nd day at a swb car bobbing around as the wheel tugs left right and centre, the mini might just be the way to go for you.

[@jamiebrassett8554]

New Leon Cupra 290 DSG match up?

[@robbieleicester810]

jamie brassett or Cupra 300 perhaps 😉

[@jamiebrassett8554]

Robbie Leicester either would be okay, just a Cupra 👍🏼

[@andrewmontague2636]

I thought John accepted defeat very graciously! I really like the JCW but the R is simply epic. So quick but the 4wd makes it always feel planted. Understated and so cool and comfortable when you’re not bothered about going fast. For all of those reasons I bought one last year 😊 Your vid’s are always fun, keep up the good work 👍🏼

[@tonytouchz757]

Different types of car totaly, the Golf is a know, very balanced fun/practical car, the jcw is just TOP of the line fun that you cannot find on other cars under 100k$. As I got some cash to spend, I would totaly get the JCW for FUN only and another car for practicality. If you need fun and practicaty with a lower budget you can compromise with a Golf R

[@nazmipro7]

Can you make a comparison between GOLF R and the new JCW 2020? I cant decide which one to buy

[@VVS1920]

I was getting annoyed with him saying “LCI Model” so much but then I remembered who owns mini

[@MillieonaVespa]

Fab JCW Mini.....my dream car...golfs have become as boring AF....I have to drive a standard 1.6 drive one for work,.....it’s electric hand brake and 5 gears are a joke...

[@Jahmed5635]

Man I remember your a1 days and when you had around 800 subs! Keep it up pal

[@doglix69]

I just watched this, and I'm sure the VW would have won in a more proper place to do this challenge. Drier road conditions too. But as you said, the JCW did slip on the launch, with front wheel drive , wet road and didn't seem too fair.

[@dalomusic5509]

Dude specs all these lovely things, forgets the harman/kardon soundsystem.

[@davemurray2631]

Love this.

[@chriskeast7907]

My JCW with BMW pro exhaust wins round one by a mile

[@anthonycobuccio6841]

JCW is a very capable car. Not an even comparison though.

[@paperpilot8375]

Mini is better

[@Modernsoul2024]

I Love my MINI!!

[@cpandsooz]

Prefer the mini really and what a bizarre comparison.

[@watchingvideos4309]

$$$$$$$ THATS THE REASON I SEARCHED THIS. for just under $50k USD which is better? Not a GTI comparison. GTI is way less than the Mini JCW. So for the price. Golf R all day.

[@TheDerbibulletpower]

The all4 countryman works cooper 2020 , 307hp ,awd , THIS WILL FUCK YOUR R , but you compare an orange between an cat shit

[@nasos5]

that Jon friend of urs is quite a good looking guy.. liked the video too btw. nice cars :)

[@andrewstait]

Awesome video once again. The mini owner just reminds me of Tom Daley 😉

[@hampshirephoto]

Thanks Andrew!

[@alkj6212]

JCW sounds better

[@m0skit0]

Missing the price for comparison as well ;)

[@vontrap6942]

Compare the golf R to the new 2020 JCW which is 300hp. Before that JCW mini's has been well below standard yet they charge a shite ton of money for them.

[@andrewomotosho3417]

Wether the cars are comparable or not, enjoyable video.

[@colinedwards4815]

Great video guys just found you on KZbin looking forward to more videos

[@chicky4444]

Mini all the WAY

[@lebogangmokogonyane8068]

Love the JCW

[@danielwoodland9576]

Really a jcw vs a r that's just stupid

[@TG-pd3ft]

silly little boys who prioritize drag race times over chassis and handling

[@st0ckjcw127]

well then

[@wajdhaikal]

You demonstrated wrong mini.. There is another Jcw with 300+ BHP 4.8 sec 0-60

[@3yar1983]

JCW looks better and way more fun than the R and its having a personality.. vw golfs are a bit boring nowadays

[@ValFinale]

Idk how but my gti feels smaller than the mini. The mini felt way heavier and mushier softer

[@jimjamthebananaman1]

You can't beat the golf R for value and performance

[@bee2677]

My favorite car is mini cooper jcw

[@EvOLuT1oN]

He should go up against my clubman f54 jcw😊

[@ADoughtyPhotography]

4WD haldex with more power against a FWD Mini that starts at £10k less than a Golf R, or maybe I'm just salty because my 140hp R50 gets chopped by both of these cars LOL

[@sikanderali1395]

Pay attention at 12:50, he states why he chose to compare these cars. Stop complaining unjustly and enjoy peeps.

[@gazmilner3993]

If your going to do a golf r should do it against a golf r32

[@henrybutterfield6591]

80 hp, not much????

[@Leviathan88RUS]

Track name at 1:13 anyone?

[@theteebox8735]

next video, compare a Boeing 747 vs a crop duster.

[@hampshirephoto]

Not a bad idea, thanks.

[@sirchickenfood8561]

Beauty ♥️

[@baghadahmed5045]

Music plissé ???

[@jjssll466]

Autos taking the fun out of buying a hot hatch

[@razbeats9474]

The new countryman jcw will have 306 bhp should have done that

[@chrismc1977]

I don’t get it. There is zero skill involved. Anyone can manipulate buttons and launch a modern DSG car. They might be quick(ish) but still so very sterile and detached to drive compared to older N/A offerings. Go drive some old school hot hatches and see what’s more fun. Hot hatches are meant to be seat of the pants/raw with great steering feel, gearshift, engine. Modern stuff just doesn’t hit the brief anymore. Integra R DC2 or Clio Trophy are the epitomes of the era. If you want to rate a Mini try the JCW GP. They aren’t bad as modern euroboxes go

[@iKyroja]

The i30N does a decent job, but ofc the experience isn't as good as in some older cars, but much better than in these DSG farting machines

[@panry172]

Your friend is fit

[@Bnkzy]

U still claiming its not on finance or lease or you given up

[@hampshirephoto]

By all means do an HPI check on the car to find out for yourself...if you know what that is.

[@DineshSingh-xp9ij]

What about the gp3

[@hampshirephoto]

It wasn’t out when this video was filmed

[@ISR403]

Im sorry but not a fair comparison

[@andrewgibbs5096]

Should rename “How to F**k your gearbox” Very unreliable way to test fuel consumption as the onboard monitor are between 5 & 10% out! The formula is: from a brimmed tank drive a number of miles, then brim it again and follow this: miles driven, divided by litres to refill, times 4.5467 (litres per gallon). Example: 300m/40L*4.5467= 34.1mpg