House of the Dragon 1x4 REACTION!! "King of the Narrow Sea"

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[@SnailHatan]

Just lyk the show audio is very quiet. Subtitles would help a lot

[@texasrattlesnake31637]

Great episode & reaction Wave Crew! Can't wait for next week!

[@ennesshay5040]

George W. Bush is a distant relative of the Queen - so....inbreeding has NO affects, apparently !

[@ItsShaz1]

:)

[@tbcalex]

@@SnailHatan you should know what is being said if you've watched the episode

[@Rojtenberg1]

i love the fact that Otto, after so many plans and deceptions, is fired for telling the truth for once

[@hclw3589]

@Darkstar what was the risky play here? Telling the king information that any hand should tell him? He got kicked out for his past shit. But Otto was not in the wrong for being a hand and having spies everywhere.

[@lshe97]

What he reported wasn't the truth though. Daemon and Rhaenyra weren't "coupling". It boggles my mind how people miss this, and then turn around and criticize Rhaenyra for "lying" about her and Daemon not having sex; even if you go with the whole "aChTcHuAllY Daemon DID touch her" route, the context of the accusation clearly involves *sexual* touching, which never happened.

[@HavokTheorem]

@@lshe97 Bruv, they were removing clothes, making out and seemed ready to go to pound town. How you call foreplay non-sexual?

[@lshe97]

@@HavokTheorem I was more so talking about straight-up fingering, handjob etc. as overtly sexual actions that involve physical touching. Removing clothes, kissing, and seeming ready to go to pound-town is the "one thing led to another" part of sex... and in this case, one thing *didn't* lead to another. Well, technically it did, but that was with someone else 😅

[@zied6456]

@@HavokTheorem Still not coupling.

[@fasstaerke]

I could watch and listen to Matt Smith and Milly Alcock speaking Valyrian all day long, their chemistry is captivating

[@sonia6993]

Yeah right? And I don't but in this episode it felt more fluent ( specially when speaking about his wife)... Felt like they mastered it perfectly 😌🔥

[@perseusveil9376]

Damn its super boring to me. At least Emilia Clarke made funny faces.

[@allysoncurtis4732]

It's crazy how despite everything I still felt the intimacy scenes in this episode were more tastefully filmed than the majority of those in GoT.

[@ObligedUniform]

Big part of it being the person who directed this (and I think 2 other episodes?) Was a woman and very much tried to approach it from a woman's PoV in the pleasure house. That's stated in the 20 min bts for the episode, but yeah it is quite different in feeling.

[@unc54]

I think its because it had a purpose. Sex scenes in GoT rarely had a purpose beyond "We're HBO and we can show tits"

[@MesaTheoryKid42]

@@unc54 well they were also there so D&D could hang out with the actresses on-set

[@dfunkt2291]

They made a scene between an uncle and niece, in a brothel, one of the hottest and most intimate scenes in the franchise. That's well done. Hotter than the aunt and nephew scene we had toward the end of GoT, and that was one of the hotter ones in that series.

[@MrRorza10]

Female director, that’s why

[@CVNVET]

ser harwin "break bones" was shown in third episode. he was the one holding one of the ropes restraining the hart, and the one who tells the king its not white but he's a big lad. he is also the one grinning at Rhaenyra as she enters camp covered in boars blood. he is peeling the skin off of an animal.

[@swwagner1]

I hope they build his character

[@CVNVET]

@@swwagner1 as do i

[@mellowenglishgal]

I loved the smirk he gave Rhaenyra!

[@-6ix559]

That’s a badass name for a badass motherfucker I can’t lie

[@anonymouszebra1239]

@@swwagner1 spoilers below 😭

[@jking4973]

Paddy Considine is phenomenal in this series

[@centripetal6157]

First episode I thought this king is worthless. By episode 4 I thought: he's a dragon too.

[@MinscS2]

Not gonna lie, I was abit distracted from his roles in the Cornetto Trilogy at first, but yeah, he's indeed phenomenal.

[@pcgaming4944]

@@MinscS2 same haha but then I saw him in Peaky Blinders and it's a lot easier to take him serious now >.

[@larochejaquelein3680]

He is definitely better than Aegon the Obese or Mad Aerys. I would say he is just a bit worse than Baelor the Blessed

[@2010Failbrids]

@@larochejaquelein3680 ?

[@EnzoCampos721]

the acting in this show is outstanding, can't wait for next week

[@uhneeuhnjee1031]

@@iLadyEbonyYo I mean, if you don’t think the acting in this show is amazing, you’re just objectively wrong

[@kavinsuresh5468]

@@iLadyEbonyYo lol what? Everyone in this show is easily as talented as the original cast of GoT. In fact some even better.

[@pablorevlatin1774]

@@kavinsuresh5468 Daenerys aka Emilia is not better

[@kavinsuresh5468]

@@pablorevlatin1774 she's very good but Milly Alcock ( young rhaenyra ) is so much better. Her pronunciation of the valyrian tongue is better, and has natural talent for acting too. Her expressions are very realistic.

[@pablorevlatin1774]

@@kavinsuresh5468 I totally agree

[@thihaaung647]

Maid : "The King has requested your presence, Your Grace." Alicent : *Ah...shit, here we go again.

[@perseusveil9376]

The dude the child killed isnt a Baratheon, he was a Bracken. The child is a Blackwood, and there's a historical and constant feud between Blackwoods and Brackens. It was like an easter egg.

[@CoopHawke]

Think the question about love vs lust was the other way around. On some level there's love between her and Daemon and he's obviously her idol(he lives the life she wants). With Cole it seemed like her taking Daemon's advice about doing what you want. If she got what she wanted from Daemon I doubt she'd have pushed Cole into it.

[@kittyorasheepy]

I'm glad I saw this 'cus I was starting to think "Am I the only mf who sees it as Rhaenyra satiating her lust with Criston, and with Daemon it was just undeniable deep connection that we are all just too uncomfortable to admit?"

[@larochejaquelein3680]

Rhaenyra sexually assaulted Ser Crispin Cole because she FORCED him to bed her. That is a cruel thing to do, forcing him to break his oath and therefore to sully his honor. I hate how everyone says that only men can sexually assault women. This is an absurdity

[@CoopHawke]

@@larochejaquelein3680 I think you're generalizing a bit there.

[@aspannas]

@@larochejaquelein3680 What are you on about? She didn't sexually assault him nor did she force him. She gave him time to deny her and he was only hesitant because of his VOWS of his knighthood. He could have left at any time. Literally NO ONE says only men can sexually assault women, stop making up shit because you're projecting something from your own life.

[@alucardwhitehair]

@@CoopHawke Nah, they’re right. The power dynamics are unreal. Imagine he gets caught breaking his oath and sullying the princess - potential execution. Imagine he denies the princess’ desires and she decides to accuse him out of spite- potential execution. Even if he does love rhaenyra, the act was orders of magnitude more immoral than a ceo and a worker having an affair.

[@stevetrevor7004]

The look Rick gives Eric as he writes down during the sex scene 😂😂😂

[@chaost4544]

Aaron's point about Rhaenyra abusing power is spot on. It's interesting Rhaenyra is stuck in a situation she can't control yet she also has enough power to abuse it.

[@kevinvanhove5834]

Except in the scene with Ser Criston she did not abuse her power. Ser Criston is a grown ass man who could've said no at any point but he wanted it just as much as she did. Look at the smile he had on his face.

[@d3l3tes00n]

He could've stopped. It's not liked she'd have him killed or something for not continuing as he might fear from other royals.

[@samscholz5024]

She can control it though. She’s a selfish child that wants to be queen but doesn’t want any of the responsibility of being queen. She constantly complains about everything but does nothing to change it or resolve the things she dislikes.

[@athenstar10]

@@samscholz5024 As you mentioned, she's "a child". She's probably 18 or 19, and how many people below 21 yo were even thinking when they're at the height of their emotions/urges? As Emma D'arcy explained, Rhaenyra just had to make good use of her energy, hence this happened. Being the grown a** adult, Criston could've stopped it.

[@Scott-ql2kx]

@@d3l3tes00n And he can be sure of that... How, exactly?

[@juanitajones6900]

"House of the Dragon" is based on one novel. I heard this series is slated to last at least four seasons. And the meat of the story occurs Rhaenerys and Allicent are older. So, I don't mind the time skips.

[@FlyingwithFire]

hell some of our main players aint born yet

[@RestlessTome]

Three/four seasons at MOST. After that, it'll be other Targaryen stories.

[@yohanespaskal9352]

@@RestlessTome blackfyre rebellion would be perfect

[@blairsinclair1797]

@@yohanespaskal9352 Blackfyre rebellion is probably too similar to this its pretty much the same basic plot

[@vincentvalentine5995]

​@@FlyingwithFire "we have come to die for the Dragon Queen"

[@edzot77]

This episode is unique, everyone literally make mistake/bad decision.

[@claudiareyes1759]

What bad decision you think the king made?

[@StillRooneyStarcraft]

@@claudiareyes1759 Pushing Otto out like that. Viserys already committed to siding with that house before, and it cost him the Velaryons. Alienating them both makes no sense.

[@Killerkwoi13]

poor decision making by Rhynera for being seen with her uncle (probs a poor decision with Ser Criston but not as poor for Ser Criston if its ever discovered), poor decision by Daemon to be seen with Rhynera, poor decision by Viserys to alienate hightower (having already alienated the seasnake)

[@TheStickyDynamite]

@@Killerkwoi13 Daemon wanted to be seen with Rhynera. The kid who told Otto about the two of them is seen later with Mhysera and Daemon. Also, Daemon never denied that he slept with Rhynera when questioned by Viserys. This whole thing was Daemon's play for the throne.

[@Killerkwoi13]

@@TheStickyDynamite true, but it didn't work really he just got himself exiled (again)

[@Wolf6119]

"I wanted to know what the lady with no eyes was gonna say" Well, they did cut to one of the fire-breathing dragon torches immediately after...

[@insertgenericusernamehere2402]

The "he called me boy" line seemed so genuine 😂 was such a sweet line.

[@tonedogy]

FYI Daemon couldn't get it on with his niece because he felt a great sense of guilt etc. It was explained in the after the show breakdown episode!

[@Kirkaloozenstein]

Or Daemon is a control freak and had problems maintaining his erection (hence him slamming his hand on the wall) which is foreshadowed in the first episode with him and Mysaria. He probably also felt guilty as she was still a Virgin and unmarried. I fully expect Daemon, Harwin Strong to end up sleeping with her at some point after her marriage due to Laenor being a possible homosexual man, and her children having blackish hair in the future. Daemon and Rhaenerya is a must need romantic relationship and its scary how good this show is at making us want that. Incest isn't cool yet somehow us as fans are willing to look past it lmao! 😂

[@tonedogy]

@@Kirkaloozenstein yeah the control was another big aspect of why he couldnt go through with it, she was more into it than him and he lost that sense of control. Yeah, I can see what you're saying coming to fruition... if it follows the books we are in for a treat! Enjoy it!

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

@@Kirkaloozenstein Leanor isn't a 'possible' homosexual man. He is homosexual lol. None of their kids are actually from him.

[@vanessalore9942]

I really wish they didn’t have those after episode explanations. They might as well tell me why during the show. I’d rather interpret these things myself

[@vanessalore9942]

@@Kirkaloozenstein @tone So are you telling me that a woman getting excited would turn a man off? Seriously?

[@jameshughes7946]

I like how we see Rhaenyra with her 3 rumoured lovers all in one night showing the birthplace to the scandal that will follow her

[@samuel_338]

Why 3?? Ser Cole and Daemon, who is the third one? Am I slow?? Lol

[@zeddy2284]

@@samuel_338 alicent 😈

[@user-iw5ou5yo6u]

@@samuel_338 Ser Harwin Strong is rumored to be the father of Rhaenyra’s future children. In this episode she bumps into him in an alley.

[@jameshughes7946]

@@samuel_338 Harwin Strong. The Gold Cloak she bumps into when she's running from Daemon

[@Wolf6119]

It's DEEPLY ironic that after all the half-truths and well-timed manipulations that Otto has gotten away with, the one time he actually tells Viserys the truth (as far as he knows it) in the most sensible, considerate way possible (bringing it to him privately instead of telling the whole Council, or even spreading rumors among the populace) is the one time that Viserys gets in his face for being too ambitious and fires him.

[@palazard95]

He fired him for spying on Rhaenerya, which he'd only be doing if he was working against her. Whether that's the truth or not, it's the reason

[@hclw3589]

@@palazard95 he’s the hand of the king of course he has spies everywhere rhae got doing some shit she knew she wasn’t supposed to be doing. Any reasonable hand would give that information to the king. He got kicked out because of all his previous bullshit.

[@observantwonderer7401]

@Jonathan Jones sure yes in ANY OTHER circumstances, but these circumstances are vastly different, Otto and always been playing his own game, he has always been "helping" with ulterior self serving motives, emphasis on _motives_ which have always been and still is the the issue. Whether ot he tells the truth or a half lie doesn't matter after bc his ultimate go al is his own gain, however in THIS instance he didn't tell the truth, he said the princess and prince were spotted in a brothel (true) and ppl _saw_ Rhaenyra and Daemon have _sex_ (a lie!) For one the spy saw them entire and leave that's ALL he saw (so L spy tbh) so either Otto made up that last bit yo suit his narrative of the spy lied ,either way facts where not cross referenced and what Otto told Viserys suits his own agenda 2) all Rhaenyra and Daemon actually did was have an intense make out session that got to 3rd base that last 5min or less, was there intent for sex? Maybe (with Daemon we can never know all we know is that Daemon intended to put Rhaenyra honour and title in jeopardy) but intent is not the same as the action, Rhaenyras virtue as in her VIRGINITY was not sullied by Daemon. So either way Otto didn't say what was true and definitely only said anything to further his own goals

[@Tenescra]

Alright, who's the prankster that thought having a Blackwood and Bracken in the same room WASN'T gonna cause a fight? Lmao, kid went ham on his ass.

[@Atlasss97]

isn't this the origin of the beef

[@CABRALFAN27]

@@Atlasss97 Oh, no, the Brackens and Blackwoods have been at each other's throats for longer than anyone can remember. The feud has been on and off, but it's thousands of years old.

[@0xLimas]

Been spending hours on reddit and twitter after this episode and it's so fun to see how different the audience has interpreted the events of the episode, which is definitely the point. Really looking forward to the audience argue week to week on who to support between the Greens and Blacks. THIS IS ENTERTAINMENT AT ITS FINEST PEOPLE.

[@44r0n-9]

The reddit discussions were extremely heated and the amount of posts saying the other side (on Sir Christon sleeping with Rhaenrya) are idiots and wrong was extremely annoying lol

[@yohanespaskal9352]

@@44r0n-9 redditor just bunch of troll who lived on their mother basement

[@manvirshergill1739]

that's just sad.

[@SirRockXIII]

well then since you wanna know.. this episode disgusted me. as someone whos religion is true love and real sex.. this was too much and just gross. if it was a 3 way.. sure fine. but no you slept with 2 people.. including your uncle. I now hate every character in this show solely from ep 4 :( Except the Guard lol wasn't his fault he got screwed over.

[@yohanespaskal9352]

@@SirRockXIII watch Disney series lmao

[@jcompton8507]

"A Dragon alone in the world is a terrible thing." We have remember just how lonely Rhaenyra is. Her mother dies, and her father takes her best friend away from her. (I know Rhaenyra and Alicent _could_ have remained close, but in any scenario it adds a lot of extra baggage to the relationship.) Also, it's really unpopular that she's named heir. So she doesn't really have a supporters or a "loyal following." And she knows that those that _do_ try to cozy up to her are insincere. At this point, her closest relationships are: (1) her former friend who was politically maneuvered into marrying Rhaenyra's dad and who then gave birth to her replacement (2) her unstable uncle who seems to care for her but also wants to replace her and/or use her to bring himself closer to the throne (? Maybe? Daemon's motives always seem a muddled mess of his ambitions and his longing for a place in his family. Even in this Epi, although he plays off what happened with Rhaenyra as a plan to "soil her reputation" to bring himself closer to the crown, a part of me wonders how much of it was instigated by their conversations about her concerns about marriage. Is there a small part of him who believes he at least understands her enough that she could be whoever she wants to be as his "wife.") (3) Her bodyguard of the last 4 or so years who she regularly confides in (and has always found attractive) Other than that, she's a loner who doesn't really fit in anywhere. And even Daemon points out to her how sad that is.

[@jcompton8507]

@Darkstar At no point did she seem as though she did not understand the people at the play. She wasn't confused, she just was trying to vocalize support for Rhaenyra and possibly encourage more to join in. (Sometimes it only takes that first loud opinion to be voiced for others to join in.) Practically every episode in the show is full of her observing and reacting to how unpopular she is. Everywhere she turns - at both court and now out in public, she sees plenty of evidence of it. IMO, more than anything watching the play she seemed a little hurt that the common folk also feel this way when they have no reason to like her any less than Aegon (Or really any of the royalty or nobles), other than she's a girl. So she tries to play it off with bravado, essentially saying that the common people are beneath her so why should she care. But she cared. It was in the same vein as saying you don't care what someone thinks after you hear they criticized you...even if you do care on some level. "...my lady doth protest too much" and all that. But, really, more than anything the purpose of this scene is just to set up future events....

[@Riku-zv5dk]

Blackwood killed a Bracken, their archrivals. Theirs is a hatred that is old and well-tempered, alas whenever they share a room blood is often spilled.

[@aboubacaramine8689]

Would be funny if a whole war broke out between those two houses in the background of the show. They would just reference it from time to time..

[@Mondy667]

@@aboubacaramine8689 Their feud is literally millenia old

[@larochejaquelein3680]

@@aboubacaramine8689 Just wait for Bloodraven in Season 5 of House of the Dragon 😈

[@SpiralSine6]

Stupid Bracken brought a knife to a sword fight

[@anndruh]

The Westerosi Hatfields and McCoys

[@bloatus7611]

I think it should be explained that Viserys WAS a dragonrider. It's interesting because he rode Balerion, the original conqueror, but in its declining years which could be thematic as hell.

[@mt6897]

This has been mentioned in the show more than once tho

[@qbc_03x65]

Yeah, he only rode Balerion once, but he was too big and slow to fly for too long, and Viserys was concerned that Balerion wouldn’t be able to make it to Dragonstone. Balerion died a few years later and Viserys never bonded with another dragon

[@emmaatkinson7379]

So odd. We're used to Dragons in other media having super long lifespans. But here it seems like they live roughly as long as their riders? Syrax being in Rhaenyra's cradle and now being almost matured, and also thinking of how quickly Dany's dragons came to full size. Like they almost have dog years lol

[@bloatus7611]

@@qbc_03x65 I think it's most interesting that he bonded with that one specifically of all dragons. Dragon bonding is not a terribly easy thing to do.

[@aowyn_]

@@emmaatkinson7379 ​ the dragons never stop growing, they eventually die because of how large they get

[@zrashad]

The only reason i do not want the time skips is i do not want to lose the Actresses for Rhaenyra and Alicent they are both great,espically Milly Alcock's performance is amazing.

[@dajointcf4803]

it has to happen... milly cant pass for older rhaenyra

[@alexandria6054]

regarding the daemon/rhaenyra brothel scene, i think he stops as well because he sees that she's enjoying it too. he wants power, and in those situations he always has it. but, with her, as soon as he realises that she wants it too and she can be as commanding as him (they are equal in title after all) - he's lost his hold leaving him frustrated. it's a game to him, one that he always wins and suddenly he's faced with someone who won't just let him win. that was the entire fun of taking her out of the red keep, she was supposed to be out of her depth and now he is witnessing her holding her own. still, i think he does genuinely want her, she is the one thing he asks for out of anything when speaking to viserys, but he also wants to irk his brother and maybe just slightly wants the throne in some capacity.

[@sang1342]

Pretty sure the tea at the end is a test. If she indeed didn't sleep with Daemon, then she wouldn't need it, and Visarys would have a better idea of if she's telling the truth. But she DID sleep with Cristin, so she actually does need it. But the king and queen don't know that....if she drinks it, they'll think it's bc of Daemon

[@Null041]

They can't tell if she simply poured it out instead of drinking it though

[@HackWilson14]

It’s not a test. The king loves his daughter and wants to protect her by making sure there are no pregnancy consequences as pregnancy is proof to all that she’s sullied

[@semoopjr6302]

Too bad i ship Daemon x Rhanerys

[@eurongreyjoy1008]

@@HackWilson14 dont tell them they always try to sound clever with telling stupid theories imao

[@eurongreyjoy1008]

@@Null041 they are just stupid man no need to argue

[@skyz6708]

I interpreted Daemon and Rhaenyra scene as him taking advantage of her to provoke Viserys but seeing how much she was in to it it upset him. I'm also curious if White Worm was paid by Daemon or not to tell Otto, imagine if it was a big brain play to try and remove Otto as hand.

[@michaelmegson2778]

I think the plan was to force Viserys into letting him marry Rhaenera, getting rid of Otto was just a happy accident. Daemons always said he thought Viserys was weak so I doubt he would have expected this outcome.

[@hafor2846]

Well, Daemon clearly likes Rhaenyra, so I could see all sorts of reasons for his hesitancy.

[@timothypolanco8622]

Man whenever a Blackwood is around and a Bracken is around you already know it's on sight. Also yah just know wherever lord Daemon is at chaos is not far behind 💯😂

[@MinscS2]

"Talk shit get split" - A common saying, but not House Blackwoods official motto.

[@vincentvalentine5995]

that boy : my momma ain't raise no bitch 🤣🤣🤣 i wonder what make this two houses hated it each other

[@ordisraru]

I mean, they're a Blackwood and a Bracken, they've had been at it since the Andals went to Westeros.

[@timothypolanco8622]

@@MinscS2 Bruhh 😂😂

[@Fordo007]

Except with House Justman where a Bracken and Blackwood wed and formed a royal house that united the Riverlands... till they destroyed themselves against the Ironborn.

[@christopherrios5749]

All I gotta say is Rhaenyra is taking that “vile accusation” to the grave with her 😂 unless the tea gets spilled over the next time jump

[@d3l3tes00n]

Hey no receipts & it didn't happen

[@twopeople158]

I really thought the drink was going to be a test to show whether she was still a virgin. It would show she wasn't (not because of daemon) and because of the accusation there would be great consequenses.

[@sean6277]

@@twopeople158 it’s called moon tea and it’s an abortive. They reference it in GoT

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

Anyone else feel like Alicent was jealous when she confronted Rhaenyra about Daemon, I felt like Alicent was jealous because Rhaenyra got to choose who she slept with and Alicent didn't.

[@616chloe]

Yeah, it really showed with the cuts on how different their nights went. Alicent imprisoned by her duty, while Rhaenyra roamed in freedom with men of her choosing.

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

@@616chloe exactly, I like this comment

[@tittrev]

“It’s quite cool” … subtle nod to Gandalf revealing the message on the ring to Frodo. Bravo

[@inkeriananas]

That cracked me up 😂

[@cooperhurst2639]

5:49 That boy was from house Blackwood and the other guy was from house Bracken. Those two houses have a rivalry that has lasted generations. Their rivalry was one of the catalysts for the Blackfyre Rebellions.

[@CaptainPikeachu]

The kid at the beginning is from House Blackwood, the guy who kept insulting him is from House Bracken. The Blackwoods and the Brackens has had a house rivalry for generations so that's why the douchey guy kept insulting the kid. This scene is an adaptation from the books where Samwell Blackwood lost a duel to Amos Bracken while both were seeking for a betrothal with Rhaenyra. The show changed it so that a Blackwood won, however these characters according to IMDB credits are show-invented characters named Wilem Blackwood and Jerrel Bracken.

[@majorianus8055]

i thought he was benjicot blackwood, someone who will be important in the next season

[@Lollordedk]

@@majorianus8055 “Bloody Ben” is a kid when the Dance starts

[@hellfish2309]

Bracken was running his mouth Dudley-Dursley style; jagoff triggered the school-shooter energy in baby blackwood

[@CaptainPikeachu]

@@majorianus8055 Benjicot was only 11 around the time of the Dance of Dragons so the age wouldn’t match up.

[@hirvale]

I love that there's like 10 ways to see everything that happens in this show. I was worried about how the writers would expand on Fire & Blood's more removed and succinct telling of the Dance, but they are doing an excellent job.

[@SaraTiggs]

14:37 WHAT IS THAT?! Just something about how focused Eric was and how confused Rick was had me dying. xD

[@LuliD2]

Daemon knew they were being spied on and used it for his benefits. I think he started to seduce her just to get the rumors out but things were getting out of control and he was losing himself, so he left in a hurry

[@BlairKillgallon]

I think Daemon intentionally stopped himself with Rhaenyra. He took her to the edge and then either had second thoughts when he realised she was so into it for never had any intention of going all the way in the first place

[@LadyVenomWay]

Milly and Matt are such great actors and have amazing chemistry. I love it but I hate it but I love it

[@MinscS2]

During Cole and Rhaenyra's scene, I initially heard Tormund in the back of my head; "don't jam it in like you're spearing a pig", but after being blueballed by her uncle, Rhaenyra was probably more oiled up than my car...

[@MrGuy2121]

Slick as a baby seal

[@MayhapsYes]

Harwin strong is in the Gold Cloaks now. That's why he's wearing the cloak.

[@chandrixaranas3242]

Rhaenyra to Daemon: “For women it (marriage) is like to be a death sentence” -Daemon brought Rhaenyra somewhere and did what he did” Viserys to Daemon: “What Lord would wed her (Rhaenyra) now in this condition” Daemon just saved Rhaenyra.

[@MrHarshverdhan]

I don't know if this was his intent but God is he unpredictable

[@mooma0912]

He did it to her for his own selfish interest, he either succeeded to get rid of Otto or failed since he got banished again.

[@yohanespaskal9352]

That's one way to see it. Nice catch

[@temptationofmemories]

No, he knew Viserys would never allow him to marry Rhaenyra no matter what, so Daemon tried to force that outcome regardless of what Viserys wanted or thought by sullying her reputation through the rumour mill in Kingslanding. Because she is the King’s chosen heir. Only to change his mind out of feeling conflicted, partly because Rhaenyra was into it and reciprocating (by this I mean Targ incest gene activate) so he wasn’t in control, and because he felt guilty over Viserys. Perhaps Daemon was expecting Rhaenyra to be shocked and reject his advances, and for the sight of her in a brothel itself to be enough to affect her reputation. But when Rhaenyra responds with reciprocation and Daemon realises he could actually have her there, and she desires him also, he was unable to do it, got frustrated and bailed. Since at this point, he wants Rhaenyra for her position and was using her as a pawn for the throne as much as he also might desire and wants her directly.

[@nottherealben]

I guess marriage is a death sentence

[@212damon]

I've been waiting for this reaction all day!

[@garthharriott8893]

the dragons don't reject him, he's actually rejecting them.... he hasn't ridden since the black dread died.... he hasn't attempted to bond with another

[@Eleni1002]

That's because he can't. Humans only bond with one dragon in their life. A dragon can bond with more than one person. Balerion was Aegon's dragon and Viserys' dragon but Viserys can't have another dragon after Balerion died.

[@kobydark5418]

He doesn't have a choice. He can't bond with another dragon as the comment above said

[@sebastianugarte464]

18:11 Mysaria is called "The White Worm" (at least in the book) because she is of Valyrian ancestry and from the car's description of her she is practically albin.

[@tashaglam4824]

Next week is our last week with Milly Alcock and Emily Carrey playing young Rhaenyra and Alicent. It's gonna be sad to see them go but I believe that Emma D'Arcy and Olivia Cooke will carry the rest of this show gracefully and beautifully.

[@Kirkaloozenstein]

I'm sure Milly and Emily will have scenes in season 2 as well as possibly Paddy in flashback scenes/episodes

[@RestlessTome]

Probably flashbacks to bring them back later. :)

[@aj897]

The flashbacks will be already filmed though

[@majbrat]

I agree - stellar performances. The new girls better bring it or they will be roasted.

[@joshuarojas5543]

@@aj897 if you’re saying they already filmed season 2 scenes with the younger actresses? That’s not how it works my guy😂🤦🏻

[@bloatus7611]

I think people are misreading Otto's ambition for disloyalty. He 100% believes in the mission of this ridiculous monarchy. He truly looked hurt in this episode when he was being fired.

[@Riku-zv5dk]

Also, despite his ambition he was fully in the right to tell Viserys about Rhaenyra and Daemon, Otto did the right thing so Viserys could act before anyone else could find out about it. If he was putting his ambition first in that scene, he wouldn't have said anything to Viserys and let the rumors spread first. It would have required no extra effort from Otto and would have destroyed Rhaenyra's reputation, instead he told Viserys so they could preemptively do damage control on it, and it's clear he knew telling Viserys would enrage him so, as he was clearly hesitant. Otto is generally slimy and ambitious, but not in the situation.

[@marti9734]

This episode made me feel for Otto... Im not gonna lie. The actor is fantastic

[@judigemini178]

Lol I can't believe these comments...imagine sympathising with little finger 2.0...this man pimped his daughter out to viserys and even tried to pimp his grandson who is just a baby, likes starting shit between viserys & his brother, both rhaenyra & daemon can see through & smell his calculated bullshit...and I'm pretty sure he's gonna play a major part in causing some chaos in the next episode out of spite & his greed for power

[@bloatus7611]

@@judigemini178 I mean, he can be and do all of those things and still upset by what transpired lol. They aren't exclusive. I don't think he's a good person but it's not like his actions are necessarily out of line with the other characters. It's kind of a major point that all the women in this story are being used in that specific way. It's also very easy to see why he hates Daemon. He's a very clear weakness for the king who would rather placate him than set firm boundaries.

[@larochejaquelein3680]

Otto knows perfectly well that a woman on the Iron Throne is a big NO NO, and therefore he tries everything to stop a civil war. He is actually a good man, and certainly not a Littlefinger. The person who resembles Littlefinger the most is that Strong councillor

[@Kvmilla]

I cannot unthink the thought of Viserys getting all giddy as Alicent goes to him while he fiddles around with his miniatures and figurines 😂 Thanks for that.

[@adamhughes4387]

Funny story about Kingsguard celibacy. Not too long prior to this series there was a knight called Ser Lucamore Strong on the Kingsguard under King Jahaerys (the Old King we see at the start of ep 1, Viserys' grandfather). After about twenty years on the Kingsguard, one of his brothers discovered that he'd been visiting brothels, had unlawfully married 3 women and fathered children on all of them. For breaking his oaths and then managing to throw his misdeeds in the Kings face during a plea for mercy, he was castrated and sent to the wall. His children declared bastards and forbidden to use the name Strong. He was known after that as Lucamore the Lusty and there are mocking songs about him in the main books. Also, Blackwood killed a Bracken not Baratheon. Both houses were once Kings in the Riverlands and are fierce rivals. Like permanent US-USSR cold war rivals except extended over thousands of years and actual conflicts.

[@mirgjankupi128]

Tyrion was known to have owned the dagger it's the whole premise for why Cat takes him prisoner. He tells why would he send a assassin with his own knife? Tells her he lost it to Littlefinger

[@palazard95]

No, littlefinger explains that he lost it to tyrion as a lie. Joffrey was the one that sent the assassin

[@mirgjankupi128]

@@palazard95 yes you're right my bad

[@a.a677]

He wasnt a Baratheon, he was a Bracken. I'm surprised Eric doesn't know the famous Bracken-Blackwood blood feud that has existed for thousands of years, since he said he read the books.

[@LusiaEyre]

Power dynamic wise, she is above Criston so this is a bit iffy- especially because he seems genuinely reluctant when she takes off his cloak and then looking towards the door. We can't say if he's really not into her and just nervous they will get caught but it doesn't feel like he can refuse her? We know Kingsguard can be put in some questionable situations - just looks at Aerys'Seven and the fun time Jaime Lannister had in the first 2 years of his service. Admittedly, their source of shame was the King himself, but one would assume they are to obey whoever they are guarding at any given point? I wonder if this will be the seed of his dislike of her later on?

[@ezymz2670]

I think that he was into it and likes Rhaenyra but was thinking about his oath to the kings guard. If somehow the king found out about it Cole would have his head chopped off no doubt, however he does give in despite this

[@theawesomeman9821]

its a lose-lose situation for the knight. Disobey your master/mistress you die. Obey your master/mistress for something illegal you die.

[@isaacwilcox3010]

Criston’s reluctance probably just comes from a place of shame. He’s the son of a nobody. He is the most successful person in the history of his family. He is honored and proud to be a member of the Kingsguard. He is very obviously attracted to Rhaenrya but he is also very reluctant to break the oaths of the Kingsguard and risk loosing the position he and his family have worked so hard for.

[@thedarkknight2221]

The director of the episode Clare Kilner said that she wanted sex scenes to be from the woman’s point of view where people were mutually enjoying themselves. It really shows in the scene with Rhaenyra and Criston. She isn’t pouncing on him like a lioness, she carefully literally and figuratively takes his armor off piece by piece. And when they have sex it’s passionate, beautiful and even loving. Also I was so happy this episode had some levity in the beginning with both Rhaenyra and Alicent becoming best friends again and Daemon and Viserys being brotherly again. But then Daemon had to give in to his inner douchebag and fuck everything up again. And while part of me feels Otto should be forgiven for having Rhaenyra be spied on at the same time he is doing it to force out Rhaenyra and have Aegon on the throne, so he had to go.

[@ManSeekingMeaning]

I like the sentiment, but I have to disagree with your wording, implying that a woman who pounces on a man and isn’t “careful” or patient is somehow not a depiction of passionate or beautiful lovemaking or at the very least that they’re not “mutually enjoying themselves”. My wife and I’m sure almost every women out there would disagree with you vehemently. Lol. That may not be what you meant, but words are important. I also saw the behind the scenes of the episode as well, and I took it as the director just acknowledging what her approach was without necessarily saying it hasn’t been done the same way in the show before. Because it has. Ygritte/Jon and Brienne/Jamie were shot very respectfully. More importantly, I think you’re undermining what Clare Kilner actually brought to this episode specifically if you focus on Cristen/Rhaenyra, which was real nuance with the actors and restraint on set and behind the lense with the BROTHEL scene. There were multiple nude extras fornicating in and out of focus, betwix shadows, covered by other bodies, etc. The music was ambient and then passionate. There was a great focus on eyes instead of hands. It wasn’t filmed as gratuitous as we’ve previously come to expect from GoT in brothel scenes and that’s wonderful! And inversely, the scenes are purposefully left open to interpretation. So yeah, I’m your example they take their time and it’s kind of sweet and cute, but it’s still very much apparent that Rhaenyra is using Ser Cole for a heated fix; Ser Cole who has now sullied his honor and that of his family name if this were ever to get out. Not very loving in the grand scheme of things. Just an alternate opinion, though. Cheers.

[@infernityable1369]

That's a very pretty way to describe an aristocrat raping their servant.

[@shl4878]

"That's a space skip, not a time skip" "Yeah but the time that it would take them to get there was skipped" made me laugh so hard, wtf haha

[@evie_rosie9804]

I loved that you can definitely see that this episode was shot through the female gaze and wasn’t as the sex scenes we are used to watch. (More hand holding, softer movements, focusing on little details…) Also, loved the contrast between Rhaenyra’s scenes discovering her sexuality and Alicent’s totally opposite ones! As for Daemon, I think he orchestrated everything and wanted to take revenge on his brother and discredit Rhaenyra but the moment he actually sees her enjoying it and taking control, he is unable both physically and morally to continue and leaves! I do think he had something to do with Otto discovering what happened though, even if Otto doesn’t know it

[@itsjay6287]

I think it was Daemons plan all this time, make people think Him and Rhaenyra had a moment , he knew there's gonna be gossips, and thanks to that, Otto's fired:D I might be wrong tho, but he definitely didn't expect Rhaenyra to enjoy the moment

[@infernityable1369]

That's a pretty way to describe an aristocrat raping one of their servents.

[@evie_rosie9804]

@Darkstar I never stated the gender of the person directing this episode. The “female gaze” is a complex cinematography theory and it’s not just about “making sex scenes tastefully or in a vile manner”

[@chaost4544]

10:45 that would be horrifying for Rick. Getting lost in his own house.

[@Cheezeblade]

Sir Cole just hitting the whole ass jackpot. Makes a knight, then a kingsguard then a very well rewarded doorman

[@nekofreaks]

i prefer called him Crispin from now.

[@PhilsAmazingBBQ]

Aaron : “How do you get the royal balls clean?” I lost it ☠️

[@Lerberfferller]

Made the mistake of watching this with my brother and sister-in-law. Talk about awkward

[@kylerhannon9791]

“Your Grace?” Perfect delivery

[@hpmedia9489]

I’m a fan of Strong as new hand, dudes got sound advice

[@refilwe9954]

I second that

[@refilwe9954]

@Darkstar while I disagree with him on that as well as his 'take a child as your wife' opinions, he doesn't seem self serving; Otto on the other hand, not so much and Daemon is hotheaded. The maesters are shady, the king won't like being advised by his daughter even though he loves her and let's be honest, the only difference between Daemon and Rhaenera on most days is that she doesn't have military. Strong is the best option all things considered

[@Wolfhunter5607]

ngl love daemon and rhaenyra tg😭

[@tylerjackson1806]

It’s so easy to tell when Rick is just not vibing with a show lol

[@XS_Overlord]

Well he didn't like GoT so I can't say I blame him

[@EnzoCampos721]

true, he doesn't try to fake at least

[@CoopHawke]

seem to be enjoying it alot more than GoT.

[@kristymcdowell6185]

@@XS_Overlord why didn’t he like GOT? I always wondered why

[@XS_Overlord]

@@kristymcdowell6185 I think partly because of how into history Rick is, including battles and politics. The show leans more towards spectacle than realism in that regard. Another reason that I think contributed to Rick's lave of enjoyment was Calvin being the one to lead him through it. I love Calvin, but he got a lot of things wrong when trying to explain things to Rick

[@Dankbuds]

" I thought he wanted to build models" lol

[@SunScourge]

Just little model Targaryens!

[@Vahki100]

The Lord Commander of the Kingsguard is none other than Graham McTavish - who will always be most well known to me as his badass portrayal of Dwalin the Dwarf from the Hobbit.

[@ketchup016]

GRRM is the one who told them Aegon's dream was the song of ice and fire, so I wouldn't call it retconning. He hasn't told us his version of the end of the story yet.

[@ianvera4299]

We will never get his version sine the books will never finish lol

[@7thHourFilms]

51:30 Rick: Can you make a dragon Hand of The King? Me: Ah, the Caligula approach!

[@stephenpodeschi6052]

Daemon knew he would be spied on as he was in episode one when he was reported to the king for disrespecting his dead son..... So it was a calculated plan to put his claim in to marry her it seems and it backfired.

[@michaelmegson2778]

Well he did manage to get rid of Otto so it wasn't a complete loss.

[@stephenpodeschi6052]

@@michaelmegson2778 Thats true plan b worked ...lol

[@kaindrg]

Lol I love that you guys mentioned the three eyed raven and the blackwood kid catches a body within minutes of the show. Both him and rhaenyra are ancestor of the three eyed raven.

[@scottkendall7789]

Calvin had me peeing my pants from laughing so hard with his Time Skip joke.

[@vibechecker3168]

I love the brackens and black woods getting a mention, they've been fighting for thousands of years.

[@procrastinator99]

Loved that kid gutting the bully. 100% approve.

[@iamantonio5305]

The little kid at the beginning is from House Blackwood and the dude that he killed that was trash talking him previously is from House Bracken. Houses Blackwood and Bracken have an ancestral feud going all the way back to the Age of Heroes i.e. thousands of years ago. Also Brynden Rivers aka The Three Eyed Raven , whose mother was a Blackwood, and his half brother Aegor Rivers, whose mother was from House Bracken, were rivals and fought each other during the Blackfyre rebellions.

[@inigoiraetau1903]

I wonder if Eric will ever get the name Rhaenyra right more than once at a time.

[@TheWindcrow]

Eric the Catpaw's dagger was in an old book that Gilly was reading at the Citadel with Sam. I'm sure it had way more history than what we first perceived it to have.

[@juansebastianfragozo674]

No one mentioning how we got to see the interior of Storm's End at the beginning, the Round Hall if I am not mistaken.

[@44r0n-9]

It's because that's impossible to know without knowledge of the books

[@Vahki100]

Agreed! It's our first ever look at Storm's End, granted from the outside.

[@Dan_G.R.S.]

@@44r0n-9 The Baratheon lord was clue enough

[@iatemyphonegaming]

When I first watched that scene with Daemon and Rhaenyra, I felt so weirded out. It wasn't so much because they're related, but because I still think of her as that 15 year old girl we first met.

[@goodaimshield1115]

She is like 17 in this episode, I believe. The first 5 episodes cover 3 years, in the first one she is in her late 14, quickly turning 15, so she ended up in her late 17/ early 18.

[@garrettskinner63]

Ohhh I’m excited for what they gotta say about this one

[@xxluchianxx]

Cole kept looking at the door like “yeah I’m gonna die for this”

[@phueal]

Viserys isn’t a dragon rider, it’s true, but in his youth he used to ride Balerion, The Black Dread, the biggest dragon the Targaryens ever had.

[@SeeFair23]

He only rode him once before Balerion died.

[@phueal]

@@SeeFair23 didn’t know that; fair enough!

[@carolusreks]

Oh damn, on my first watch through i didn't notice that the dagger at 22:50 is the same as the one Arya is given in GoT

[@TyrannosavageRekt]

I really hope the Catspaw Dagger gets a name in this show. It's Valyrian steel! Valyrian steel should always be named.

[@CoRLex-jh5vx]

I love how, despite everything, Daemon still clearly loves Viserys as his older brother. He's absolutely a little shit to him, constantly, yet he almost single handedly conquered the Stepstones and risked certain death just to spite him, and then he comes straight back home and just wants a hug and a laugh with his brother. I wish we got to see more of his grief for Viserys because its SUCH an interesting relationship

[@nltoriola89]

Joffrey didn't send the assassin to kill Bran. He wasn't the King yet because Robert was still alive. The assassin was sent by Petyr Baelish. It was brought up during Baelish's trial scene.

[@dito6483]

you should've read the books they'll show u the truth not the show.

[@kobydark5418]

It was sent by joffrey in the books

[@fuego8483]

The prince that was promised is Bran Stark. Let me explain. Brynden Rivers is a Targaryen bastard prince, Brynden Rivers was the Three eyed raven which now possessed Bran Stark. Therefore the Targaryen prince that currently sits on the Iron Throne is Brynder Rivers. Which means that the prophecy came true.

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

*GRRM* *On* *Daemon* Every author has their own favorite character whom they enjoy writing about. Interestingly, Game of Thrones author George R.R. Martin has revealed that there is a Targaryen he enjoys writing about. However, it isn't the Mother of Dragons. Martin is currently promoting his new book Fire and Blood, which chronicles the lives of the previous Targaryen rulers. In a new video, the A Song of Ice and Fire writer was asked about his favorite Targaryen. Martin admitted that he is fond of "grey characters" and confessed that he enjoys writing about Daemon Targaryen. "He's a notorious bad boy, a rogue in every sense of the word. He was a rival for his own niece Rhaenyra and then later he became the husband of Rhaenyra. He switches sides several times, you never know what side he's gonna come down on. He's a very colorful and unpredictable character." _ *Matt* *Smith* *On* *Daemon* In the books, penned by fantasy author George RR Martin, Daemon is referred to as “dashing, daring, and dangerous” with a hot temper. During an interview with Considine for “The Official Game of Thrones Podcast: House of the Dragon”, Smith said he sought to “subvert” the idea that Daemon was simply a “bad guy, good warrior”. “I wanted to make it slightly more delicate, fragile. I think he’s quite a fragile creature,” Smith said. In the story, Considine’s Viserys chooses his daughter Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen (Emma D’Arcy) to succeed him, over Daemon - the rightful heir to the throne. Asked whether Daemon would suit the role of king, Smith replied: “I don’t know if I’ve projected this onto him but I’ve found for someone who, on the page, looks sort of disloyal and irreverent, [but] actually, there’s a real sense of value and loyalty about him and there’s a weird sort of sensitivity to him.” _ I'm actually in agreement with Jessica (AKA Sesskasays). I'm also fascinated by Daemon because I really don't know WTF he really wants? He wants more power but at the same time doesn't want to hurt Rhaenyra or Viserys. He loves them but he's also egotistical, prideful, and selfish enough to want more power. He wants to restore House Targaryen as a great name like when King Aegon ruled or the days of Old Valyria. Daemon is a complicated man. Hence, I was surprised when he backed off from having sex with Rhaenyra. This is his unpredictability that GRRM has spoken about. There's also a weakness to him when loving family or friends so much as seen with John Kreese caring about Johnny Lawrence and Terry Silver exposed it at the end of Cobra Kai's S4 finale. I think whatever wrong Daemon does the rest of this season, his credit limit 💳 is high considering all the bad*ssness he did in The Battle of the Stepstones. He's got plenty of leeway from me. He can F around in S1 if he wants.

[@alysdaxei]

This episode was INCREDIBLE. 10/10.

[@CommonDaeze]

I think the reason daemon couldn’t have sex in the first episode is different than in this episode it seems like he felt guilty for using Rhaenyra because he could see how much she loves him but idk. Like in the beginning it was because it wasn’t her now it’s her but for the wrong reason.

[@blairsinclair1797]

I agree

[@cherrypi_b]

I don't think she loves him. She's kind of infatuated because he lives a life she wants for herself. She's going to learn that he just wants to use her as well (although he likes her).

[@CommonDaeze]

@@cherrypi_b I could see that as well but at the same time I feel like they are really similar in that way. I haven’t read any of the books so I’m just guessing.

[@ronin_2774]

The start of this video asking about the poll question and then talking about "Time Skips" made me think of something. In the cartoon regular show there's a character called Skips and his whole thing is that he's immortal. So when they said "Time Skips" I thought the fact that this character Skips through Time or that Time Skips him (as in time ignores him and Skips over him). Idk if the creatures had thought about that or if I'm reaching like crazy but it's interesting

[@roxy9562]

Is it horrible that I 🚢 rhaenyra and daemon 🤷🏼‍♀️ lol

[@allysoncurtis4732]

It's all fiction at the end of the day imo. I don't advocate for violence irl, but I still think seeing battles and fights on television is fun. I don't see how this is any different.

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

@@allysoncurtis4732 well...you...goddamn. That's a fair point.

[@RedHeadKevin]

Regarding the time jumps and recasting the characters: There's a reason they're credited as "YOUNG Rhaenera Targarean" and "YOUNG Alicent Hightower."

[@kaseykey7378]

I wonder if Rhaenyra will drink the “plan b”. It is kind of trap in a way. If she is telling the truth and is still a maiden she doesn’t need it. But if she drinks it, she is “admitting” that she is not a maiden and could be pregnant

[@KMoney410]

Aaron’s laugh gets me every time bro😂😂😂 1:18

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

Each episode of House of the Dragon just keeps getting better and better. There's literally no comparison between this and Rings of Power. Yet all of my friends still tend to because it's LOTR.

[@corynydam2361]

There’s no comparison because they’re entirely different shows trying to accomplish entirely different things. Rings of Power is trying to weld bits of the Appendices and and scraps of poetry into a cohesive whole covering what is, in canon, a period of nearly 5000 years. They also know that they have 50 hours of tv to work with, so they’re taking their time. Additionally, the Tolkien estate seems at best bitter, and often outright hostile towards any attempts to adapt LOTR. House of the Dragon is working from an actual completed novel with the living author there to give advice. It’s a different tone, with a much smaller and more focused scope; one that lends itself more readily to a faithful adaptation.

[@Crispifordthe3rd515]

@@corynydam2361 lmao, what you said about what Rings of Power is trying to accomplish is not at all what the show runners are tying to accomplish. RoP is trying to 'modernize' said scraps of poetry and appendixes with not-so-subtle messaging. HOTD is exactly what you said it's doing, so good job on being right about that at least 👏

[@2jz-boi]

rings of power is nothing but a political cash grab

[@layniebear1237]

heck yeah, loved this reaction thanks guys!~

[@d-snowden7906]

I think wanted to be with her deep down, but i also think he wanted to do it on their own terms or wait for the right moment instead of it happening spontaneously. Cause you can tell by his face during the scene that he wasn't fully comfortable, Rhaenyra was the only one to show "emotion" i guess during the scene. If that makes sense? LOL

[@TyrannosavageRekt]

I would say this episode took place anywhere between 2-6 months after the end of the last episode, which could indeed still make it four years since Rhaenyra last saw Daemon. Alicent was quite heavily pregnant last episode, but that baby (while large) was not already a year old.

[@6Rock6God6]

Aaron is just a couple decades early... Can't wait for the hour of the wolf.

[@Meanwhile-]

Every time Viserys gets a scene I can't help but spend a minute to picture his actor in his Hot Fuzz getup with the aviators and the moustache.

[@pcgaming4944]

Show got me feelin bad for Otto :P love the acting, makes it better when I'm not familiar with too many of the actors too. Can't wait for next episode