House of the Dragon S2E08 Explained

[@AltShiftX]

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[@jeradwood8964]

Should do a Video: *' D~&~D:* The *_Fake_*_ Hollywood Writers/§how-runners '_

[@alexwitherden5326]

Please do more 'Fake' videos

[@KevinZeigler]

This video is the only reason I keep paying for nebula. Just to listen the whole thing again!!

[@slayyydan]

hey just curious is that video the only thing different available on nebula? i’ve noticed the video times are the same mostly so it’s not like extra content 🖤

[@crscrs1078]

You are THE MAN!

[@jorgerangel2390]

George messaged alt and told him "dude I need a distraction"

[@made-line7627]

I always just assumed they were the same person

[@dirkdiggler5581]

Why is he yapping about House of the Dragon season 2 so much but GoT season 8 was totally fine 💀

[@rohanrajput_9]

He's writing everything else, but what he's supposed to write

[@ekn_38]

Because him not finishing his story is what led to Season 8. He gave Condal and Hess a finished story and they absolutely messed it up. He was too kind with his criticism too

[@proofofmyexistence]

@@dirkdiggler5581Season 8 couldn’t have deterred from the books because they haven’t been written yet…HoTD however? Evidently the changes made to his already established source material managed to bother him enough to drop a nuclear drama bomb.

[@akakak12-w1b]

“It’s taken 6 episodes of magic, drugs and therapy, but Daemon has finally learned to respect his wife”

[@bronmill33]

sounds like every middle aged dude who go on DMT therapy trips with their friends just to learn empathy for others lmao

[@crylec6534]

More you can say for some dudes. But unfortunately we don’t have crazy vision ladies sadly.

[@pderham26]

Because the writing sucked

[@kalecraft8906]

​@@pderham26daemons plot is the best part of the entire season and people who think otherwise are stupid and wrong

[@Dell-ol6hb]

@@kalecraft8906 are you being serious?

[@awesomehpt8938]

Criston cole sees one dragon battle and he’s suddenly Robert Oppenheimer.

[@alanpennie8013]

He's always been mercurial tbf. Maybe he has bipolar disorder.

[@alexisaguirrevideos]

😂

[@reyagu4607]

😂😂

[@BigBoyBillSneed]

I am become Balerion, destroyer of Gardeners

[@william32811]

i mean to be fair he did kind of cause it

[@ferran273]

He hasn't said "maybe incest is bad" on this video, so maybe incest is not THAT bad.

[@friedkeenan]

I'm sure the matter is currently being investigated, let's wait for the facts to come out before making hasty conclusions

[@SapphireSolstice67]

Does Shift need to end every video with “And seven times never pork sister”

[@rohanrajput_9]

Yes, I always thought that, I'll let my mom know

[@end.olives]

Incest is actually pretty good, just not that good

[@viderevero1338]

@@SapphireSolstice67 Yes? How else am I supposed to know what to do with my dragon-uprising and royal dynasty?!

[@Wicketor]

Unlike winter, i thought this video was never coming

[@lolasdm6959]

Procrastination lmao

[@wowwee0]

Omg I thought I experienced a glitch

[@jaketheberge1970]

He was pumping these out once a week for like two months while doing Dragon time with Glidus too. He probably needed a break.

[@lolasdm6959]

@@jaketheberge1970 no he was pumping out episodes explained right before the next episode he was always procrastinating.

[@cdespota]

I already forgot the whole season. Who won the big final battle again?

[@lutherfloyd597]

Now all we need is a breakdown of GRRM's blog post

[@QueensBeryRules]

What he say?

[@AltShiftX]

The Real Maelor

[@cinnymunbuns]

@@QueensBeryRuleshe said he doesn't like the show and he's not going to finish winds of winter

[@honkler5974]

@@QueensBeryRules”Beware the Butterflies”

[@katonasanyi3735]

​​​@@cinnymunbuns and he mentioned it's because of Ryan Condall. His behaviour was the last straw. GRRM is taking a sabbatical from writing, for an undefined period... He is going to focus solely on his collectibles. Because, and i quote "My figurines have not betrayed me, unlike those HBO j*ckasses...".

[@bronmill33]

Its super nice of Helaena to give a pep talk to her uncle despite the fact that he was the one responsible for the murder of her 4 y/o son, what a nice young woman she is

[@bronmill33]

@MikeC-n8j k

[@tequilasunset4651]

​@MikeC-n8jit would be more in character for her to say something to the effect of "I know this was your fault", her role in Daemons vision spoke only to her mysterious visiony side but was totally detached from her usual personality.

[@balabanasireti]

​@@bronmill33 k

[@balabanasireti]

​@@tequilasunset4651 Meh

[@ItsButterBean1020]

God I fucking hated that and the Alicent stuff

[@kyekimler]

One thing that I loved from this episode is that Abubakar Salim (the actor for Alyn Velaryon) finally got a chance to show off his chops rather than being so stern and taciturn, and man does he blow it out of the water. That speech to Corlys was powerful as hell, well done to the actor and to the writers.

[@Marcellodelivera]

Best part of the ep, tied with daemons vision Quest imo

[@Salazatl]

His name is so badass. Abubakr damn.

[@edmonddantes563]

His face at the end on the boat preparing for battle is badass

[@Mrraerae]

​@@Salazatl It's so nick-nameable too. Abu, Bakr, Buba, Abukar, Bubak, I can think of so many good nicknames from "Abubakar"

[@sheldoneasy8602]

11:08 Corlys said Adam is a decent man, well sadly that’s not what we can say about Corlys😂

[@QuinnTheGM]

Alt Schwift X posted an Explained for this episode, but HBO called and made him take it down within a couple hours.

[@Astro-uc1pi]

We need a winter is coming for HBO video atp😂

[@jabrondestoroyah]

Its okay when David Zaslav is found dead on his cheaper gaudy yacht Schwift will have his last laugh

[@mochdewana2072]

is this real?

[@gsmanage6734]

No way

[@jabrondestoroyah]

@@QuinnTheGM who deleted my comment about David Zaslav? Pussy

[@zw3in]

The white walker and number 8 on the thumbnail gave me Vietnam flashbacks

[@giuliacoene2445]

😂😂

[@skilledwarman]

2 things: 1. I found it really really funny that after Shift revealed on stream that Glidus is the one editing the vids this season they instantly stopped coming out on time (I know yall were taking a much needed break. Thats not a criticisim in any way I genuinly just found it funny) 2. Good choice on the thumbnail change. White walker was goofy

[@ReaperAHHH]

I miss the connected editing style, then at the end of the video it zooms out

[@skilledwarman]

@@ReaperAHHH it'll most certainly be back for the normal videos. Glidus editing these ones was probably so Shift and the team didn't have to put their other projects on hold for months again

[@emceesmith6665]

8:09 I'm convinced Helaena wasn't part of his vision, that was her stumbling into someone else's vision quest while she was tripping in King's Landing.

[@AltShiftX]

V awkward to bump into your estranged niece on the astral plane

[@HOTD108_]

​@@AltShiftXIt's very kind of her to give some guiding advice to her uncle after he had her son assassinated. Queen Bug truly being the better man.

[@made-line7627]

​@@HOTD108_Helaena is the king we need 🤍🐌🪲🐝🐜🦋🦗🐞

[@BraidyBrown]

Bloodraven: 👀👀👀

[@dylanchouinard6141]

“What are you doing in my hallucination?” “I’m not in your hallucination you’re in my dream!”

[@andres00937]

"Haelena almost broke the 4th wall, saying; its all a story that their lives are but an episode streamed on HBO" HAD ME DYING ON THE FLOOR

[@trashkills2802]

That character keeps ruining prophecies. She can see clearly how her brother dies but cant see how her son dies (talking about rats instead, convenient)?

[@balabanasireti]

​@@trashkills2802 Not really

[@trashkills2802]

@@balabanasireti bro trust me

[@iliaponomarev1624]

@@trashkills2802 Well, obviously, her son died, she got a panic attack during the funeral procession and another one after the riot - and after that she unlocked the ability to control visions and project herself into other people's visions.

[@unc54]

@@iliaponomarev1624 I'm not sure if this comment is a satire or an attempt at a legit explanation given how backward people went to justify how out of nowhere he abilities developed.

[@andrekeith3836]

Aegon calling himself the realms delight read as a piece of dark, sarcastic irony to me. It seemed more like he was mocking Larys's idea than actually wanting or thinking he was capable of being 'the realm's delight.' I think the only reason he left with him was living elsewhere was preferable to dying

[@alanpennie8013]

Oh for sure. Mocking himself and Rhaenyra at the same time. Nicely done Aegon.

[@WeabooScourgeKiller]

I read his tone as being so done with everything that he genuinely just wanted to be liked by the small folk and feel some validation considering how little he gets from his family

[@ryankline1164]

I agree. Something I think people did not process. The way he talked; he knew his days of vanity were gone.

[@reyagu4607]

@@WeabooScourgeKillerThat’s how I took this scene, dude is a sad mess

[@walkingdeat4]

Don't think we are just gonna forget that we didn't get an Alt Schwift X and Glidus Dragon Time video for episode 8. Restitutions must be paid! Edit* After fully watching the video, restitutions are on the way!

[@danielaalba9735]

need this to be seen

[@made-line7627]

Gotta save the bestitution for last!

[@kangarooMonkee]

Winter is coming.

[@Gigipretty64]

@@kangarooMonkeechill. Winter isn’t that bad, it lasts one night, no one of import dies and the night king is killed by a skinny little girl.

[@megamovieman101]

Good luck, I’m still waiting for the Battle of the Bastards pisstake 💀

[@SoranotRoxas]

*"When the world needed him most... he returned"*

[@WallyWachell]

On the worst possible final ever.

[@pderham26]

What?

[@my_aiim_is_nasty]

So like your mother?

[@ShannonCarter55]

​@@WallyWachellbetter than Game of Thrones s8. The biggest issue was that the writer's strike and then getting the budget cut back they couldn't do Battle of the Gullet this season. The script didn't get the thorough look it should because strikers were striking.

[@gohabs8918]

@@WallyWachellI didn’t have too much of a desire to watch HotD until I heard about the season 2 finale. I’m on my second watch through now, I didn’t think it was bad, it just ended on a wild cliffhanger that episode 9 is typically there to cash out on. It’ll be a great first few episodes of season 3

[@WumpiniFuseini]

Brilliant timing with the George blog, Shift!

[@davidmontoyaramirez9392]

Shifty ate burritos with the man himself. It's all connected.

[@thatoneguyyouseearound7112]

In really hate how they made the Frey’s act the same as they do in Game of Thrones. Forrest Frey is actually a good person and is one of the first lords to throw in for team Black. I think George did this to show us that a house’s reputation really doesn’t mean anything about the personality of its current lord. Why should the Frey’s of HotD act like the ones 150 years later other than most causal viewers will think of them as greedy. Then there’s the scene where the demand Harrenhall! It just rubbed me the wrong way I guess

[@guerreiroazul3230]

They did that because they didn't care for the source material

[@Fire_Summoner]

Alicent S1 and S2: "I would do anything for my children". Alicent S2 Ep 8: "I never cared for my family. Children or otherwise".

[@DLo776]

if that's what you took away from alicent in episode 8 i suggest you watch it again

[@dv4497]

Alicent's character arch in season 2 was complete gibberish. No amount of copium will make it coherent.​@@DLo776

[@fayedunaway8]

Yeah after she sold her entire faction to die like Gwayne, Daeron, Otto and not just her sons, yeah that's what we took away ​@@DLo776

[@trashkills2802]

@@DLo776 Excuse them, I think he or she meant that Alicent S2 EP 8: "I never cared for neither of my sons, growing up or otherwise".

[@Walkingfenix]

🙄​@@trashkills2802

[@awesomehpt8938]

Why does it have to be Rhaenyra or Aegon? Why can’t Simon strong be king of the seven kingdoms? Then everyone can have venison and peas

[@alanpennie8013]

This is the kind of thinking I can get behind.

[@rugvedkulkarni1593]

And who has a better story than Simon Strong?

[@thor.halsli]

He better bring the red currant if am voteing for him

[@kinnbenet]

I'm up for a tasty meal, Simon Strong is a king I vouch for! Aye

[@travismcnasty51]

Why didn't Rhaenyra and Alicent just text each other? It's as believable as them having multiple sneaky conversations.

[@juiceyborger]

rhaenyra sending alicent a raven at 3 am, with a note simply saying "you up?"

[@tequilasunset4651]

"The queen who ever was" connecting Rhaenyra to Halaena and Daenerys sure is a concept that would have been cool if it was actually communicated in the episode

[@guerreiroazul3230]

"sure is a concept rhat would have been cool" is a sentence that certainly defines the show in many ways

[@vipersb1]

What does that title even mean? It's like not proper English and doesn't sound cool. 🤷 I guess it was fitting for an extremely disappointing episode.

[@telltellyn]

Is this the first time you've watched an Alt Shift X video and seen him point out some potential connections and symbolism? Welcome! This happens every episode, and you wouldn't believe how much more is in the books. This is not a series for knocking you over the head with every potential connection.

[@tequilasunset4651]

@@telltellyn This episode in particular did not communicate the symbolism its title implied. I am aware that ASX is good at highlighting this stuff, no shade to him.

[@telltellyn]

@@tequilasunset4651 Literally every single episode ASX will point out there could have been more symbolism that wasn't directly communicated. Every episode.

[@MrOtistetrax]

Note that among sailors, it’s considered extremely bad luck to rename a ship.

[@omranhaddadin5262]

Sailors in westeros or sailors in general cause if in general this isn’t relevant

[@SapphireSolstice67]

Ghyscari Dawn was renamed to Red God’s wrath by Victarion.

[@BudMasta]

@@SapphireSolstice67 he surely will have "good luck"

[@SaintSC05]

​@@omranhaddadin5262 This isn't real!? Holy shit!

[@MrOtistetrax]

@@omranhaddadin5262 Sorry. I didn’t realise it was essential that every comment posted was relevant to the specific context of the subject of the video. I thought that some people mind find the point of trivia interesting. Thanks for setting me straight. I’ll endeavour to do better next time. 👍

[@ipolygon1]

6:45 I love him saying their destiny’s are connected as if he doesn’t know they’re both most definitely gonna die in that lake.

[@guerreiroazul3230]

Show Alicent: Abuses Aegon physically and psychologically his whole life, forces him to be king, doesn't comfort him when he is mourning, berates him when he is at lowest, abandons him when has been scarred despite it being partially her fault, sacrifices him to save her own hide. Why does the show expects me to see her as not evil? Book Alicent is unironically a better person.

[@alanpennie8013]

It's not great. But Alicent resented having to marry Viserys and has transferred that resentment to her children. At least she's trying to protect Helaena now.

[@SapphireSolstice67]

You’re right Guerre. It would be better if she just had values that opposed to Rhaenyra and stuck by them. And for the love of the Gods, don’t forfeit your children’s lives.

[@MarvinT0606]

Show Alicent is a dumpster fire. Not even someone as vile as Cersei (book and show) would _willingly_ sacrifice one of her children in an attempt to end a war 😂

[@MarvinT0606]

Imagine Cersei and Catelyn Stark on a sit-down and Cersei agrees to have Tommen crippled because of what happened to Bran 😂😂😂

[@guerreiroazul3230]

@@MarvinT0606 a war that she started, the show tries to absolve her of her guilt over the war, but if she had helped Aegon escape none of this would have happened.

[@AlexTekle]

I liked the friction between Rhaenyra and Ulf, given what we learned about her in her youth. Despite being princess, she loved acting out and mingling with the smallfolk. Now that she’s invited the bastards into her house and gifted them the power of dragons, she’s seems less forgiving of insubordination.

[@SapphireSolstice67]

I don’t think she interacted much with the smallfolk until she was 18 in episode 4. She seems surprised by everything she sees.

[@boarfaceswinejaw4516]

when did she interact with smallfolk?

[@simonandsimbagaming]

I genuinely don't see how they're going to fit everything in two more seasons. There is still so much ground left to cover, and season 2 moved so painfully slow. We're halfway through the show and there has been precisely one battle (two if you count the Burning Mill). The show's either going to have to cut out a load of them going forward, which will hurt various characters development, or be incredibly densely packed with battles if it wants to have enough time to wrap things up as well. As much as I loved the first season, some of the choices back then will have very weird consequences going forward. In the book Rhaenyra's younger children, Joffrey, Aegon, and Viserys are meant to be 12, 9, and 8 respectively. In the show they look to be little more than toddlers. Unless they drag out the timeline they're going to have a hard time establishing them as actual characters, especially as two of them are pretty important to the story.

[@playoffp2738]

Whatever they do it won’t work the damage is already done

[@clairikus9743]

2:31 Alys is definitely crying because she saw season 8

[@chontellaa6651]

She’s crying bc she knows Aemonds coming for her 😭😭💀

[@patrycjazak9753]

She’s crying because the writers took away everything interesting about her character and made her “Daemons’s therapist” 🫠

[@outinspace8760]

This "season finale" felt like a half season plot peak. If even that.

[@Kyles_Money]

I read somewhere that the people above moved length from 10 to 8, so they were scrambling to finish at 8. I dont think this was meant to be the last episode

[@ryankline1164]

If even that.

[@Marcellodelivera]

Out before schwift and glidus dragon talk ep 8. Schwifty in shambles rn

[@AltShiftX]

The Late Alt Schwift X

[@jackchilton7596]

​@@AltShiftXI signed up to Nebula with your code specifically for Lizard Hour. I'm so excited that Shwift's friends might be able to help him look for the YT password. He and Gildasus's insights are highly respected. I'm keen for the day it arrives.

[@jackchilton7596]

HBO probably won't get my money when S3 drops, but Geeldust and Shwift absolutely will.

[@Marcellodelivera]

Just waiting to hear how this episode affects the S tier "Harwin warged Corlys" theory

[@aussieflintknapping]

Just watch the Fake Jon Snow video to pass your time 😂

[@_moops1820]

Alt Shift X kind of forgot about S2E08 Explained

[@oeurydice]

I wish I could kind of forget about S2E08 of HOTD ngl

[@frostycane5134]

But S2EO8 certainly didn’t forget about him

[@chrisdobson4597]

GoT meme lore goes deep

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

Ryan Condall kinda forgot about Maelor.

[@Monotremewisdom]

My partner is asleep next to me. You bet your ass I’m putting in earbuds and watching this immediately

[@AltShiftX]

Don't put earbuds in your ass

[@dnh2180]

@@AltShiftX Please don’t kink shame.

[@mathiasgreyjoy1611]

@@dnh2180 What if kink shaming is his kink.

[@kevinw712]

@@AltShiftX the echo inside those intestines must be insane

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@AltShiftX LMAO!

[@Shelbygreen]

Jace got robbed of his best moments this season

[@fayedunaway8]

Ryan on the podcast, George's blog and Alt Shwift's video all coming one after the another. The timing is fucking hilarious.

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

what podcast

[@skate60331]

What podcast

[@homonym7638]

I love how characters like Christen Cole and Jaime can shift from being some of the most despicable to the most dense and layered characters in this world.

[@bhavishnadar]

Maybe the kingsguard is the lawful school to train misfits

[@BizarreHD]

That’s what makes asoiaf so great, let’s just hope they don’t ruin it like they probably will

[@AlphaMelGibson]

@@BizarreHD I think it might not be possible on film, its like the Godfather but instead of just Michael Corleone every single one of the characters changes dramatically. It is too much info to cover these massive time spans in the asoiaf universe. The way to go might be making a whole show/movie on 1-2 events and dont leave as much out, instead of tackling whole eras and opening too many plotlines.

[@giuliacoene2445]

I didn't buy cole's renewed personality. Still a little bitch, try and act all "I'm a changed man now"

[@Bingo_the_Pug]

In season 1 Criston was ashamed of his actions & was ready to kill himself. Season 2 he seems to embrace his depravity while still trying to maintain his honor, but he acknowledges that he’s still a hypocrite for all the things that he’s done.

[@Chadius_Thundercock]

This season was like coming back from a long hike then only having lukewarm water at home to drink

[@Kingmakerrr1337]

27:30 Bro got a cold while recording

[@TheHellyeahmen]

"what happens and what does it mean" I've been wondering that for 4 weeks now Great video btw

[@guerreiroazul3230]

@@TheHellyeahmen it means that the writers have lost the plot

[@Apeljuice199]

More proof that Seasmoke is nearsighted: When arriving at Harrenhall, Seasmoke can be seen circling the castle while Rhaenyra lands. This is due to the fact that Seasmoke can't spot the castle from that height

[@SapphireSolstice67]

True. That’s why he was chill with Ser Steffon until he got too close, that was when he finally noticed him. And what he did with Addam was just him getting a closer look.

[@Apeljuice199]

@@SapphireSolstice67 Exactly, with every episode more of the truth comes out

[@8Hshan]

I love this theory for being both hilarious and very plausible :D

[@RikvA]

Surely the people who once again have to wait two years between seasons of HotD can be normal about having to wait a few weeks for a KZbin video this thorough.

[@brittany1049]

No

[@RK-dc2es]

I refuse to have a single normal one

[@XxSTACKxX]

Fuck that. I want videos now !!! But seriously he did do a livestream after it. It’s not as detailed but it’s there

[@made-line7627]

You'd think so, but we cannae help it

[@dingo1547]

Don’t forget us book fans! We’ve been waiting 13 years, a couple weeks is nothing.

[@lakrinmex8132]

Heleana's magic is to own a copy of fire&blood book.

[@tahurahossain6012]

Halaena's power addition is so stupid. She does nothing with it except giving spoilers from the book. No purpose. Even more useless than Bran. The original story about an innocent sweet young woman going crazy from losing her child was so much much more impactful and a pivotal part of the story. These TV writers must think of themselves to be so clever while making stink of someone else's work.

[@KlaraL-_-]

Finally someone who also likes the original characterization more! I don´t really mind the visions etc., but I find her descent into depression and suicide more impactful. I also prefer Jaehaerys´s murder the way it´s described in the book.

[@Guitar40193]

Schifty, you beautiful bastard. I was worried Glidus went off the deep end and had you strung up Bolton-style. Hope you've been well. Thank you for the video

[@Greggie1]

Alt Shift X said no future spoilers, but he told us Bran is a warg, a huge future spoiler

[@ToddSchul]

No spoilers of "Future shows"....get it? That show has already happened...the time in the story may be future but in RL the show already happened...

[@AlexRye-sv6no]

​@@ToddSchulit's a joke

[@PetersonZF]

@@ToddSchul Whoosh.

[@chyawanprash]

Shift, release Schwifty and Glidus from your basement.

[@dr.quicksilver1630]

Something I want to point out that might get lost a small non-fact but Daemon is Bloodraven's paternal great-grandfather. I think it's relevant for character development and why GRRM didn't like Season 2. Because the Old Gods are preying on Daemon's need for control, as they do with Bloodraven, so having arcs where they frame their actions as altruistic and not intrinsically selfish takes away from George's story.

[@davidcopperfield5345]

Exactly! The writers seem to have forgotten the absolutely horrid and creepy nature of magic and all those that allow themselves to be used by it in the A Song of Ice and Fire world. None of the gods are good or kind. Not the drowned god, not the old gods, not the red god. The only straight up kind and benevolent gods are the seven, and that's because their most likely made up. Or at least the farthest from their original versions.

[@davidcopperfield5345]

For Alys Rivers to be doing this for "the innocents" is wild. The innocents? When have the old gods ever cared about innocent lives? When has Bloodraven ever cared about innocent lives? Bloodraven has a lot of innocent blood on his hands. So do the old gods. All those sacrifices from the Boltons and the Starks of old made to the old gods. It was Queen Alyssane that had to abolish one of the old customs of the 'first night'. Are we mistaking the noble nature of the Starks of today, for that of the Starks of old? The old gods are creepy and kinda savage. All the 'active' gods are ultimately kinda selfish and are only trying to achieve their versions of 'Victory over Evil.' Who that evil is, is not exactly clear. How many people need to be sacrificed to achieve this goal, is also not entirely clear.

[@jacoboorozco6115]

This didn’t quite feel like a finale. Last episode should’ve been the finale, and this the first episode of season 3. I’m not sure how I feel about the show right now. I’m excited to see it develop, but even GRRM is not quite happy with Condal and his decision making. Hopefully season 3 is a bit faster but not rushed, they definitely didn’t help themselves with each season being 8 episodes. Love your work Alt!

[@balabanasireti]

Meh

[@Memelorden]

Can you please make a video about “The Real Stannis Baratheon”. He’s my favorite character in the books and he needs justice for how the show wrote him off like he was nothing Love your videos btw🙌

[@miller0002]

Oh boy... can't wait for season 2 part 2 (season 3)

[@fimmywa]

"Magic, Drugs and Therapy" is going to be the title of my autobiography - I just need to be able to afford some therapy sometime between then and now.

[@shone4947]

Finally Shifty’s spending time with me

[@jordias6436]

stay parasocial, _my friend_

[@BIastwave.]

I don’t even care at this point. I’ve read all 10 books, been active in the community, been donating to Alt for years and genuinely loved his commentary…but I just don’t care anymore. Between S5-S8 of GoT and the absolute mess of HotD S2 I just give up. Sarah Hess should never be in a writers room again. Condal is an idiot. They had the entire story laid out for them; start to finish. All they had to do was follow the script and fill in dialogue/blank spaces. Instead they chose to just ruin it. I want to be clear that this comment is in NO WAY an attack of Schwift, Glimbus, Crtl Shift Shywft, Blimbus, Blumbus, or Alt Shift Rivers. I’m just simply venting my frustration at the HotD “””writers”””

[@guerreiroazul3230]

George said it himself, bad writers take other people's stories and ruin them

[@ryankline1164]

It was very kind of you to include his bastard son.

[@oatdilemma6395]

I feel the same. Just fatigued from the disappointment and cringe. Like honestly, why can't they just listen to George? He's the grand master man.

[@AnomalousCanid]

imagine having as strong of a first season as hotd did after the trainwreck that was later got only to throw it all out the window what a shame

[@methodsocratic]

Agree almost 💯. My only addition is that I think GRRM, & to a far lesser-degree, many, many of the fans (including, yes, the content creators you list) hold some responsibility for the HBO schlock that’s been put out. I’m not interested in attacking anyone as a person, but I’ve got no issue with being critical of choices folks make. GRRM could’ve finished the series, it’s not like he hasn’t finished *many* projects since ADWD was (finally) published; Fans could’ve not supported the cash-grab, thirst trap adaptations, such as HotD, once those adaptations proved time & again they absolutely suck. Content creators could choose to not include coverage of those shit-adaptations in their work: I’ll point to the channels “Tolkien Untangled” “Girlnextgondor” as examples of creators who’ve actively avoided RoP content because they know it sucks & won’t promote it even through criticism.

[@tidouble1]

Where are you?! We need the Dune Prophecy episode breakdowns!! PLEEEEAASSE! lol

[@zrerrznz532e]

yeahhh , can't wait

[@cflow2013]

Just got done reading George’s blog absolutely flaming the show and went to KZbin to see if any content creators covered it, then immediately got the notification for this video lmao.

[@proxyone9804]

Is it on "not a blog" website? I cant find it. The last blog there from sept 3 and he doesnt mention the show

[@gezenews]

@@proxyone9804 deleted. But I found it on internet archives. But only because someone else linked it to me.

[@jordnchn7907]

@@proxyone9804 got taken down, WB assassinated GRRM

[@cflow2013]

@@proxyone9804 he deleted it fairly promptly. There are archived versions of it that you can find. Idk if I can link it in a comment.

[@szponter]

@@proxyone9804 he deleted it

[@Bruce19066]

I know those vids take a ton of effort and time but a "The Real Daenerys" Video would be so good and quite important for show only watchers

[@Ghiblilover1228]

I read George’s post about how Helena’s death is supposed to be the powder keg blowing up leading to Rhaenyra’s downfall. What do the small folk see in Helena? The show makes her just seem very reclusive and weird. Even after the death of Jaehaerys they showed sympathy, sure but that’s not enough for being beloved in my opinion. She doesn’t seem to leave the red keep to do charity, and she’s not charismatic like Margery or Rhaegar to grow that type of a parsocial relationship Like why would the average kingslanding civilian storm a nest of dragons and cause a city riot for a supposed injustice of someone who really comes off as just some stranger Can someone explain if I’m missing something, or is this maybe a part of the change with blood and cheese hence why the impact isn’t as great in a way if that makes sense

[@balabanasireti]

I don't care much about his post tbh

[@rambard5599]

If I had to say, this has a lot to do with George R.R. Martin mostly expecting the show to play out beat for beat like the book, and not having the foresight to notice that the fact that Helaena is a very different in the show compared to the books, also means that she wouldn't be expected to be as beloved by the common people, thus expecting her death to be the catalyst of Rhaenyra's downfall isn't precisely reasonable given the circumstances. I can understand an author wanting his work to be respected and replicated without any major changes, but GRRM should realize that this is an adaptation, that the showrunners might be doing things not only based on fidelity to the source material but also on how audiences will receive them, and that maybe half the stuff he put in the book can be made either more palatable, changed for something else entirely that will be more accepted, or just shifted out of focus because it really isn't appealing and/or major enough to warrant the spotlight. At the end of the day, if people want to see the Fire & Blood story, they should just read Fire & Blood. If GRRM wanted a 100% loyal adaptation, perhaps he shouldn't have gone for a TV series, where audience and ratings are the name of the game. GRRM is not a screenplay writer, so as much as he might not like major changes being made that conflict with what he considers most important, maybe what he considers most important isn't the kind of thing that will make the show popular and possible in the first place.

[@BizarreHD]

@@balabanasireti???? Fuck u comment then for ???

[@mirkofcapogreco]

Please put a spoiler alert! Many people didn’t read GRRM’s post

[@TheBlessingo]

He was a screenplay writer, who conceded (on his blog) that writing for TV demands changing the source material fx for budgetary and length reasons. He even specifically loved the change that Viserys got crippled by the throne. It is confounding that he knows that changes have to be made to the will of the big suits on the top, but when changes happen he gets pissy. He could just have NOT signed over his intellectual property, under a contract were he has no say.

[@MogMonster87]

I have to laugh at the portending doom of the night king knowing that he gets owned by a twelve year old in the end. Very threatening

[@anyonmousse]

Yep. All this a song of ice and fire crap is leading to Arya stabbing the guy and then everyone dies like in the Phantom Menace

[@murderb0t]

It's so funny that this was released the same day as the blog post

[@Luneytoon]

Daemon saw season 8 of GOT and knew the real enemies are the writers so he straightened up real quick to try to end the series before the bad writing appeared… he was too late

[@inigo137]

The absolute character assassination of Alicent this season is a dumpster fire

[@omarbey3868]

It's obvious GRRM is concerned. The problem is the show is being driven by people who "want to cut costs" (A) and the "wouldn't this be cool" people (B). The results (see examples below) will have a ripple effect in the next two seasons. - Sunfyre is dead, so how can he.... do something really important near the end of the story. Of course the dragon won't be doing this because they've turned Rhaenyra into this saintly person. They even had her dressed up as a Septa. (A did this) - The error with Daenerys' eggs (B did this) - One of the writers saying the only reason the black goat was at Harrenhal was because they thought it would be cool (B did this) - Having Helaena helping Daemon find himself in his vision when he was responsible for the death of her son (B did this) - Rhaenyra kisses Mysaria for no reason other than shock value. This will go nowhere (B did this). - What happened to the weirwood tree in the red keep in season 2? Was it just a prop for season 1? I guess it died from the lack of care in season 2. It would have been cool if Haelena was standing in front of it when she communicated with Daemon. No she's just standing on a parapet in a dazed state looking off into the distance. (A & B did this) There were a couple really good episodes in season 2. But they need to figure out how to pay for good writers with the same vision. They also need to get the "wouldn't this be cool" people out of the writing room.

[@made-line7627]

If Alfred wants a Strong male leader, he's in the right place. Long live King Simon Strong, Lord of the Seven-but-actually-Six Kingdoms, and Protector of my Heart 👑🤍💙❤️💚

[@thor.halsli]

There is 9 kingdoms

[@atlasprime6193]

Calling it now (before finishing the video) and SPOILER… In the book, Daemon’s body could not be found after his battle against Aemond and was presumed dead. The show will definitely take advantage and reveal that the reason his body could not be found is because he’s actually alive and was rescued by the Green Men. For what purpose? Simple: Bloodraven needs a predecessor, after all…

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

"The Queen Who Ever Was" actually is a reference to Ryan Condall apparently shouting "MAH QUEEN" like late GOT Jon Snow every time Rhaenyra was brought up in the writer's room, to which Sarah Hess would enthusiastically applaud every time.

[@MorriganNoir]

cripsy cream went from cristan cole to rustin cohle with that bit.

[@SocksyyAU]

I thought this vid was gonna drop the night before season 3 episode 1 aired no joke

[@renearevalo7255]

George has its own vision and we must respect - However, I hope this teaches George a lesson and he focus his time in finishing the source material and not going the opposite direction (spending more time in the showbiz)

[@leandrocastello309]

You know the source material is completly finished right? What happenes in ASOIF in no way affects F&B or how badly is adapted. You are entangling things.

[@melaniewilliams1351]

While that’s true wrt GOT, the source material for HOTD is compete (as barebones as it is).

[@rndrx70]

All narratives must bow to THE MESSAGE

[@dominiqueodom3099]

How are going to just skip over the fact that Alicent put her children including Aemond and Aegon in this position and is now criticizing them for having to defend themselves? Godamn this shows bias towards the women is absolutely painful to sit through

[@SapphireSolstice67]

Yeah Alicent doesn’t make much sense this season. Especially that final scene.

[@unc54]

If I didn't know better I would think the writers were cartoonishly sexist. Instead, they're incompetent at writing women which doesn't make me feel any better.

[@fayedunaway8]

People like to talk about how Alicent disowned Aegon in a moment of heat but not the fact that the next day she puts herself in between Aegon and Meleys like is that not supposed to mean anything?

[@Ojlobnel]

​@@unc54women are human and humans live in conflict with themselves, if anything this makes alicent more complex. though i agree that that scene is stupid.

[@unc54]

@@Ojlobnel Actually that's kind of the core of my issue with the women writing. They're not allowed to be humans which is what makes the writing choices that much more ironic.

[@wyattstone8222]

"You're going to die for some quails?" "Someone is."

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

This might surprise HBO, but ASOIAF fans are actually... fans of the ASOIAF source material. That's kind of why anyone is tuning in. So, to have them neuter and change or "subvert" or just water things down... simply doesn't make sense to me. I feel like you could skip most of S2 and someone could edit the entire season into one summary episode of the big things. Frankly, I don't even remember most of it? Like Rhaenys dying and Helaena's watered down trauma, but what else really? Where is the fan favorite Nettles, and why is the very necessary baby Maelor? Why do writers who have never produced anything as iconic as GRRM stripping his work as if they can fix it and do something better? Like, guys... I'll criticize GRRM all day long happily, but he's the reason we're here at the end of the day. It's his story I want to know the ending to, it's his story I want to see portrayed faithfully on screen. Not whatever the fuck this was.

[@13666RAI]

I love alt shift x video at the end of the week after the episodes

[@kd2453]

It’s too late. GRRM has spoken.

[@YankeesFan0620]

“It took six episodes of Magic, Drugs and Therapy, but Daemon has finally learned to respect his wife” 🤣🤣🤣

[@kinnbenet]

Such horrendous path a medieval man must go through to believe in feminism

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

When will show runners realize people actually like GRRMs flawed awful characters

[@akakak12-w1b]

I just finished a rewatch of the watchmen series and this vid drops. Like literally Angela was stepping on to the pool and I got this notification. What a great day

[@FoardenotFord]

You failed to mention that Bloodraven is also a joker, a smoker, and a midnight toker.

[@krzyszwojciech]

25:09 - "so now [Aegon] hopes to become the Realm's Delight" I didn't take Aegon's line as his hope. He's destroyed physically and mentally. I interpreted it as him somewhat mocking the idea of people cheering for his return.

[@hakeempierstorff6964]

I was so much more excited for this video than I am Season 3 of HotD

[@Bubreherro]

Just when you hit the depressive part of your night, Shifti shows up

[@letmegamemom6308]

In English courtesy, the wife of a knight is called a "lady". If the custom is the same in Westeros, Hugh may not be overreaching in his ambitions. At least not yet.

[@alanpennie8013]

Just so. He can have everything he wants except...

[@SamuriLemonX18]

I don't trust the writers actually knew that

[@SapphireSolstice67]

Davos’ lowborn wife seems to be called Lady Marya even before he was Lord of the Rainwood.

[@Dezm023]

Bruh this guy is a comedian

[@onlytrae]

Maybe incest is bad??

[@HOTD108_]

​@@onlytraeSource?

[@tequilasunset4651]

​@@HOTD108_ sock emojis I stg

[@breatheinthepinkair]

The bloodraven lore makes me confident that no show runner will ever pull this story together

[@MadIvano]

My man is trying so hard to make this show seem deeper than it is.

[@Shmanly]

26:47 "some fans" is a weird way of saying Glidus and Schwifty

[@palmtree554]

I don't watch HOTD, I watch Alt Shift X. This was a long awaited finale.

[@Savior-ml4pq]

I heard somewhere that bloodraven is also a joker, a smoker and a midnight toker and gets his lovin on the run

[@tylarsaunders4303]

Finally been waiting forever for this episode

[@acoupleofschoes]

Alicent didn't need to sneak past the blockade and didn't sneak into Dragonstone. Orwyle only got her out of King's Landing, then they either passed by or got caught in the blockade and made it/were brought to Dagonstone. Alicent's guard was kept outside and she was escorted inside by Rhaenyra's guards.

[@alanpennie8013]

Good point.

[@davidgomez5032]

Its interesting how this almost makes the episode seem more intricately and intentionally put together than I had initially thought, while at the same time exaggerating the issues with the episodes by comparing it to the book.

[@youremomlol2263]

a bit disappointing you didnt mention helaena apparently not caring about her son dying and appearing to the person who is responsible for his death

[@highsedai]

Thrilling stuff, I can’t wait for episode 9!

[@EGGYNOODLESOUP]

Its been cancelled

[@highsedai]

@@EGGYNOODLESOUP I know, this was a feeble attempt at a joke

[@funimationtoons6658]

we need dragontime with mr glud

[@Jen7867]

I'm sorry that I am so late commenting. Hopefully, it still helps your algorithm. Thank you again for a wonderful video. As always, you mentioned things that I hadn't considered. These deep dives really help me to enjoy the show and the books even more.

[@dekusfreckles6225]

We need a “ The real Maelor the Missing” video NOW

[@felicity9025]

I audibly gasped when I saw this upload… life is hard without schift and schwift and glimbus

[@dodes2698]

The Late Alt Shift X my father calls him

[@Steve-v3k5u]

HotD doesn't have nearly the depth or layering live as it does when you break it down in these vids. The way you connect everything present and past really makes the show so much more exciting than it seems. Thanks Alt!

[@gangstapenguin2773]

The only reason we got this now is so no one complains when the blog post video comes out Saturday