'House of the Dragon' Season 2, Episode 4 Deep Dive. Plus: Ewan Mitchell! | House of R

The dance has begun, and it's time for Mal and Jo to dive deep into the explosive fourth episode of ‘House of the Dragon.' They begin with their opening snapshot (06:12) to discuss their overall impressions before going scene by scene into the intriguing, witchy, and dragon-battling wonder (09:38). Later they are joined by Aemond "One Eye" himself, Ewan Mitchell, to discuss his role in this episode and what it took for him to inhabit his scheming character (03:22:15). All before diving into their book spoiler section to take a look ahead at what the next episode might bring (03:41:17).
Hosts: Mallory Rubin and Joanna Robinson
Guest: Ewan Mitchell
Producers: Steve Ahlman and John Richter
Additional Production: Arjuna Ramgopal
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[@jdhelfrich]

"A four hour podcast? That's ludicrous!" he scoffed, as he sat down to watch every single second of it.

[@UmbralDawn]

I’ve always hated how everyone I watch fantasy shows with or play fantasy video games with never shares my love of deep diving into everything about the show or game and spending an ungodly amount of time thinking about it. I love lore for things like thrones and middle earth and the elder scrolls but I’ve never had anyone to discuss it with. So thank you guys for doing these because it makes me feel like I’m just sitting at the table discussing all the things I love, with you.

[@itskashkashi]

I come to these types of videos for that kind of community. Sounds like what you need is neurospicy friends. We tend to go deeeep into things we're interested in lol.

[@1siddynickhead]

I feel exactly the same..I don't have anyone who's interested in deep dives among my friends

[@sabrinalecrivainmediaTM]

Aye! Your not alone in these feelings. You've found your Nuerospicy Tribe. ⚜.

[@1siddynickhead]

​@@sabrinalecrivainmediaTMwhere does one connect with this tribe?😅

[@TheDseinn]

Ewan starting off quoting Heat. Perfect Fit.

[@jdrummerdd]

Need to make sure CR is made aware of this.

[@Drew-hd4hm]

I know he doesnt answer the milk of the poppy question....but by quoting Heat I think CR wins the argument.

[@haiku5756]

Not gonna lie - real life has been tough lately so 4 hours with these two brilliant women is a huge gift 💝🐉

[@StaminaMC]

May you continue to enjoy the escapism. 🫡

[@Lex-up6mg]

that's so awesome yall got Aemond

[@kelseygulledge6893]

I think one of the differences is that all of Catelynn’s children were alive. Rhanys’ children have passed so maybe she was more open to acknowledging Alyn now vs. when her children and heirs were alive.

[@GregPivo87]

In fact Catelyn would have grown up learning about the history of the decades of war, treachery & death that came from bastards pressing their claims against trueborn heirs. Such events haven’t happened yet in Rhaenys’s time.

[@Flexorcist3030]

Rhany's was also a hard core Targ. If you notice her allegiance, its always with the true Valyrians. So i would think that she is more desensitized to adultery and bastards vs Catelyn who is a cuddled little girl waiting for her father by the window then married an honorable Northerner.

[@wholahaywhatdahell]

4 hours?! Off to battle again, old girl ❤

[@Mr.-Roybot]

I can't believe Jelinsky made it all the way to House of R! His impact on the game of Survivor will never be forgotten!

[@caitlincoker8601]

Omg I’ve been WAITING for this since Sunday!! ❤❤

[@lexilily__]

i really feel seen by the continued use of “lil baseball head” to refer to jaehaerys. truly incredible stuff

[@amymadand]

Mallory’s dragon screech gets me every single time

[@elizabethdibble5159]

I have watched this twice and listened once. Such a jam packed episode, so much to digest. Soooo appreciative of all the work you two, and all the crew as well.

[@kodiaksigel]

I need longer and longer deep dives like I need air to breath, give me all the goodness

[@idkidk-xb9ee]

I said it last week and I will say it again this week, I love that these make my work day go so much faster

[@_justinblizzle]

The fact that it took me 2 days to get thru this entire podcast 😭 what a pleasure!

[@LSChestersMom]

Love it and LOVE the longer pods, thank you!

[@rofhiwamutswari2975]

Watching all the way from South africa 🇿🇦.

[@sedentarynomad1000]

And me from Argentina!

[@LoyalandTrue.]

@@sedentarynomad1000 GSTK.

[@Mogs-vz]

I'm so happy you're on youtube! Mallory I have been listening to you since the Harry Potter podcast! So cool to put a face with the voice

[@Nutsallinacan]

Ewan is so talented💚 Best actor on the entire show!

[@background5915]

great episode as usual! I love seeing all the facial expressions and mannerisms. I hope when the summer is over you keep putting your shows on youtube, even if you are both on webcams :)

[@taytayqueen7024]

Nooo disagree! 😭 Viserys’s delivery to Rhaenyra about the prophecy was spectacular. The way his voice breaks out of fear & care as he says ‘ The iron throne is the most dangerous seat in the realm ‘

[@streamingscreens9931]

Waiting for this to drop. Yaaaas

[@user-uu2sb8sw5w]

Cant wait to check these out

[@LaLadybug]

Ewan 🥺💗

[@glc0stanza]

My favorite weekly discussion. Never change, you two.

[@sashagaster9381]

Ewan got them blushing!

[@gabrieleharmon4648]

Exceptional coverage. Love you guys!

[@beammeup1930]

The best final word beheading is definitely "Kill me and be cursed, youre no king of mine" -Rikard Karstark

[@Missbazorn]

My first time coming to YT for an episode and that intro with the music is epic!!

[@House_LeeTN]

I loved how Aegon and Daemon got roasted 😉 this entire episode! lol Epic withcy-trippy vibes from Alys Rivers, then the juicy harsh reads from Aemond and Alicent, great shit! Love the pod!

[@azer.2454]

watched this episode just to hear his deep voice 😫 and of course to actively listen to this insightful discourse

[@horizonfios]

This show freaking rocks ladies

[@enjohneer]

So close to a 4 hour pod!

[@_justinblizzle]

Life is good

[@jamineleph5207]

30 minutes in - Jo is even more on fire with the asides than normal 😂😂😂

[@mikecarroll3538]

Ewan with a Heat quote from a question CR asked is incredible

[@LittleBigFoot2small]

That man’s voice is so 😍😍😍😍

[@chelseawade4105]

I love listening to Mal and Jo! ❤ love your laughs!

[@nicoletjeng9793]

Okay but the fact that you bring Ewan Mitchell (the guy who plays Aemond) for an interview is pretty cool ! 🤣

[@crunkburger9279]

Screaming at the quote from Heat😂😂😂

[@PikachuRaichu-es8mk]

I’ve come for my man😍

[@ArmandoMPR]

I think the smart and very defensively course of action for Rhaenys would’ve been to flee to Dragonstone after her first dance with Aemond and Vhagar. By then she had fulfilled her duty to defend Rook’s Rest, their allies. The only reason why she would stay and fight would’ve been to gamble and see if she could end the war by taking down Team Green’s biggest advantage.

[@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk]

Aegon flew his dragon into battle DRUNK!! Let that sink in! Who else thinks giving DRAGONS to children, teenagers and nobles to be madness?

[@Paul-ew5st]

He had to put on his armor get the dragon saddled and fly 300 miles. I'm sure he was sober by the time he got to Rook's Rest.

[@LyricalXilence]

I'm on Aemond's side

[@theezpz9916]

The two greatest nerd culture podcasters of all time. I bend the knee to you two!🎉

[@Dr.Deagle.]

Can we take a moment to celebrate Eve Best slaying the Rhaenys role

[@frankiejerardenno2678]

❤❤AWESOME PODCAST MY 👑 👑 QUEENS😊THANKYOU 💋💋

[@brent415ful]

Thanks guys for the pasing the work day content. Ewan mitchell?! No way. How did that happen?

[@susanleach9106]

Watching from South Australia.

[@frankiejerardenno2678]

Awesome. Podcast ❤beautiful ladies ❤🌻🌺🤘🏽😊

[@bobthebuilder3817]

Any chance you guys can do a live reaction to the episodes? Love to see Mallory watching the show live.

[@TiaD12]

In the scene with Alys Rivers. The closed captions said Frog 🐸 (noises) and then suddenly we don’t hear the frog 🐸 noise anymore and then we see Alys Licking what looks like blood 🩸 off of her fingers 👋. So I think some dead frog was in the drink she offered Daemon. And yes owls 🦉 eat frogs 🐸

[@thelonelybolter8245]

I was there the day Mal and Jason lost their minds over LOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT TRAAAAAAIIIIIIN. Back in the before times ;)

[@ownkindofmusic2004]

One hour episode. 6 hours of podcast. ( house of R + talk the thrones+ Jason’s podcast) Sounds about right. ❤❤❤❤

[@JuanCarrillo-Nava]

7 if u add The Midnight Boys (pew pew).

[@kodiaksigel]

Every week I watch like 14+ hours of content about a 1 hour episode (also recommend Alt Shift X and A Cast of Kings)

[@Redjack10]

Check out Bald Move too!

[@HB-ey2dk]

​@kodiaksigel I swear, watching Alt Shift Xs livestreams after the episode are almost more my favorite part of Sundays than the episode haha 😊

[@ownkindofmusic2004]

@@kodiaksigel that’s seems to be the sweet spot

[@brennanrattenni]

Big disagree with Ned telling Cat. Cats enmity towards Jon is part of the cover. Like when Melisandre is telling mance the bones are important for the glamor, ppl expect to see the bones. Ppl expect Cat to hate Jon so Ned has to let it happen. The moment he tells anyone he first breaks his promise to Lyanna to keep him safe. And he endangers the person he his telling this secret to. All around bad idea to tell anyone let alone Cat’ imo. love the podcast

[@mitchapalooza1]

Loved the interview with Ewan. He was an incredible character named Osberth in one of my favourite series of all time "The Last Kingdom". Ewan is clearly a super talented actor.

[@TheNumerum]

Came for the Ewan bits, his voice is so Asmr❤❤

[@user-zx2fx6rp6c]

Mal and Jo are the absolute best

[@flyflybaby2723]

Came here for Ewan!

[@jmelitojr]

I loved this episode but I would have liked if they kept it a 2 on 1 trap for Melyes(so sad Eve Best is done) RIP to “The Queen that never was”

[@who_hurt_youproductions8826]

Now i can get through these last hours of work 😅

[@GregPivo87]

Rhaenys & Alyn’s scene evoking the anti-Catelyn with Jon is especially notable to me when Jon visits Bran and (book-only) Catelyn is so hateful that she says “It should have been you.”

[@mattdavid716]

Witches go!

[@JDEdwards2331]

I never noticed all of the icons in the intro. So far I see: Cap's Shield The Tardis Direwolf? Wonder Woman emblem Eye of Sauron

[@humanhelp3969]

This is what the Internet calls “reaching” because there’s nothing there.

[@JDEdwards2331]

You watched the intro in the first minute and didn't notice anything? Be honest 😂 ​@humanhelp3969

[@Scubasteve3012]

Mal said "4 episodes left all bangers.....can't fuckin wait".........amen kid!....well put

[@JoeNaeem]

YOU GUYS still exist?! Respectfully…this is like a blast from the past (2016)

[@luisacc]

💚💚💚

[@mbranche4234]

That was not the first-time that Allicent took the moon tea because she knew she would not have any reactions to taking it. She also knew that she could do this procedure without any help.

[@aguzman222]

Oh boy I am taking the afternoon off - LOL

[@TiaD12]

Where have you all been all Of my life. This is so in depth. I will have to go back and listen to other episodes of you all. 🎉🫶

[@riomendoza1111]

If we took a shot every time Mallory ran out of breath and sucked in wind on the microphone, we'd all be dead from alcohol poisoning

[@asuphill]

In another timeline, i’d be watching this show with Mallory, Jason Concepcion, & Rosie. And then I’d also get to watch Jo and Dave Chen do their pod. 😢

[@beammeup1930]

I think Alys warged into those animals..Notice 1 dog jumped up to watch Daemon walk out

[@p1ysaucedo]

I think the writers? Director? said it was milk of the poppy

[@Fultoncards]

Mallory, you're so endearingly analytical and perceptive. I could totally use you as my shrink.

[@Hennyondarocks]

Ewan quoting heat was a nod to CR and the boys from rewatchables podcast 🫡🫡

[@Bdaychick]

RIP to my fav Rhaenys : the Queen that never was and SHOULD have been 💔🌹❤️

[@geoffdeckman796]

Was a little suspicious as soon as she said episode 3 was her fav of the season

[@fourtime7]

Vhagar was Ray Lewis. Lying in wait to make his move. Don't com across the middle.

[@Redjack10]

Or go to Atlanta during Super Bowl weekend.

[@AndrewLaSane]

What's this episode's count on the phrase "non-book readers"? Also why didn't Mal talk about his "one eye" to his face?

[@readbykyle3082]

Jojen is not dead in the books, Jojenpaste is a theory that he IS dead, but this isn't known

[@lauraregan3773]

Ewan 😍😍

[@cassianandor1844]

❤❤❤

[@Hennyondarocks]

Steve snow working hard

[@davidjelinsky1683]

Four score, and several years ago.

[@Mic-Mak]

2:06:38 *I love that quote, it rings true, but unfortunately, I think it only has a smidgen of truth.* In real life, someone who have lived and experienced many things in life but never reads, is far more equipped than the person who's never left their hometown and reads a ton. There should be a balance between the two, but I'm confident that the former has lived more lives than the latter. Reading is not real life, even if you're reading about real life.

[@nicholascorzo3742]

I LOVE THESE LADIES!

[@jacobwatson8688]

Gotta be honest I don’t understand y’all’s issue with the “few weeks” comment. I don’t think the word few needs to be taken so seriously and to me it seems as though only 4-6 weeks have passed Green council was 1st day after death Black queen was like the next 2 days Word of Luke’s death probably took a day to get back Jace’s trip north + time for raven to get there and Jace to get back probably 2 weeks Couple days pass in the start of this season with blood and cheese and then a couple more days with the aftermath 2-3 more weeks for Cole’s campaign, rhaena departure and daemon to harrenhal So someone who has gone through tragedy upon tragedy upon weird sex upon sept meeting called a month+ “a few weeks” Big deal

[@Dr.Deagle.]

Maybe the goat was for Alys' witchcrafts

[@kelseygulledge6893]

Do the greens know Rhaenyra lost her baby?

[@mbranche4234]

Allicent and Otto purposely did not teach Aegon how to be king because they wanted him to get bored with it allowinv them to rule behind the scenes. Look at 2nd sons Damon and Ammond...trying to be King because they think they are passed over.

[@aamirfarooq1260]

3:25:20 question everyone wants to know the answer to

[@thelonelybolter8245]

54:25 GRRM told me it was Warhammer not Lego just saying...

[@clouds5762]

Ewan 🫶🥰

[@Dr.Deagle.]

Keep these long, keep laughing, keep thirsting for these handsome men!😂

[@jazzycat8917]

Justice for the Muppetine Tullys

[@crystall.411]

Something I just realized, everytime we have seen Alys it is only at night, not during the day so far. That made me wonder about the “is she a ghost?” theory as well. I want to see Alys during the day now or maybe she is like Hecate the goddess in Greek mythos who has more power at night.

[@jmelitojr]

Mallory your laugh is THE BEST!!!!!!

[@LifeOfBoogie803]

Should’ve asked ewan “if aemond is so fierce why can he only win when he sneaks up on ppl ? “ he’s 2-0 off hiding from a teenager and a fierce old lady. 😂

[@SuperARCANGEL0]

This sounds hypocritical because Meleys only attacked Sunfyre by sneaking up on him. Twice. Lucerys and Meleys were both going away. And Vhagar wasn't hiding from Lucerys. What are you even talking about? It's just a smart thing to do

[@Zarab923]

@@SuperARCANGEL0she didn’t sneak up on him lol. He had just attacked her and she dodged it and attacked him. If he wasn’t a useless moron he would’ve been ready for it

[@SuperARCANGEL0]

@@Zarab923 Go watch the scene again dude. After she dodges the fire she sneaks up on sunfyre from below, and then again when sunfyre recovers and is trying to escape

[@SuperARCANGEL0]

@@Zarab923 It's not just that he's a "useless moron", he was fighting a much older and bigger dragon who's rider has been riding even before Aegon's mom was born

[@kylemma33]

Vhagar almost got meleys at the start of the their fight. She barely managed to stay airborne, vhagar released her just a little to high. If meleys had hit the ground with vhagar she wouldve been a sitting duck, unable to take fight again.

[@KylieIsOverIt]

There is exactly a zero percent chance that Aegon, serial grapi$t and child-tr@ffic-King tried anything "SO HARD." His poor character, laziness and entitled nepo baby existence ensured that no one in the Red Keep wanted to invest in him. They have illustrated this > half a dozen times, including in this episode.

[@wook4054]

Listened to the whole thing just to say #makeJomilookatit