The Battle of Muthul River, 109 BC ⚔️ | Jugurthine War

[@wernerhasenpusch8459]

Thanks for covering this one. This war is quite fascinating to me since the Numidians helped the Romans greatly in defeating the Carthaginians.

[@brokenbridge6316]

Despite how this Numidian was using his forces I somehow had a feeling he would lose. Especially when I noticed the name of Sulla's biggest rival in the Roman ranks. I had heard he was a pretty fair military commander in his own right. Nice video. And Merry Christmas House of History.

[@Zakariya3603]

He defeated the Cimbri and Teutones in the Battle of Vercellae and Aquae Sextiae where he killed over 80,000 Germanics in the first one and 140,000 Germanics in the second one whilst sustaining minimal losses himself.

[@kipmetknoflook]

Shows how incredibly disciplined these legionaries were

[@Zakariya3603]

If Jugurtha had Libyan, Iberian or Germanic heavy infantry he could have crushed even Marius and Sulla and would have killed them in Battle, the reason why that wasn't was because the Numidians were a good cavalry but not infantry, they couldn't cope with Roman attacks.

[@jamesstramer5186]

Thanks for covering this. The Numidians have always fascinated me ever since, I started playing Total War.

[@martinmorbak8778]

That library... I'm crying in bookbinder right now.

[@Turaga]

Out of all the battles/wars to cover! Great choice, excited to see :)

[@HoH]

Happy to hear!

[@nomooon]

Jugurtha did everything right. Made a successful ambush, feint retreat and surrounded enemy cavalry, did not waste elephants at the start of battle but instead against enemy's weakest arm mid-fight. For him to still lose, his army must all be 1/1 peasants...

[@PalleRasmussen]

Well... he did the important thing wrong; he picked a fight with the Roman Republic.

[@NolanJohnson423]

Right?? I can’t believe the Numidians lost this battle! The setup and initial moves were all very smart it seems they just literally couldn’t kill enough Romans fast enough

[@PalleRasmussen]

@@NolanJohnson423 it would not have mattered. Ask Pyrrhus or Hannibal.

[@NolanJohnson423]

@@PalleRasmussen oh for sure I’m not saying they would have destroyed Rome or anything after winning at Muthul but they might’ve been able to kill Marius if it was a slaughter which would’ve been very interesting for later Roman history

[@shemyyyshemyyy727]

Even tho its isnt peasants they are no match for the legionaries

[@YasserMaghribi]

I was waiting for this topic of jugurthine wars for so long ! thanks !

[@RodolfoGaming]

What was is it with dual monarchies and instant plotting as soon as they're implemented? Pyrrhos and Neoptolemos, Carloman and Charlemagne, etc. The only example i can think were it worked was sparta but the oligarchs were also in charge other than the kings themselves. Congrats on another great video and for bringing out a story i haven't heard before, keep it up!

[@mbathroom1]

don't you mean WHAT is it not was is it?

[@romualdcaffeserre6230]

I mean, it's kinda obvious tbh. There can only be one guy sitting on the throne. Having someone who shares the supreme power is just inviting civil war

[@RodolfoGaming]

@@romualdcaffeserre6230 not exactly but it requires both rulers to prioritize their people rather than then selves but that is extremely rare

[@MrCount84]

Marcus and his brother worked out well

[@TheWolverine01]

I see History Marche/Bazbattle influence in your videos and i love IT !

[@raoufduc1441]

Thank you for covering this battle and numedian history

[@anarchopupgirl]

How exactly do you "shadow" someone while riding an elephant? 🤣

[@paulrodriguez6054]

Hahaha I really 🤣 tried to picture it too lol

[@loganblack6572]

With binoculars

[@yaburu]

With a nat 20 on the stealth check.

[@TheGhostOperative]

Elephants can be real quiet when trained. Plus u dnt necessarily have to be within visual range to follow someone as long as u have necessary tracking skills. Lol.

[@paulrodriguez6054]

@@TheGhostOperative I don't doubt that. But they big as fuck

[@MegaFunkysoul]

Jugurtha: We gonna ambush those bastards... Metellus: Those bastards gonna ambush us...

[@shamsishraq6831]

That guy Marius seems promising, maybe he should lead the army one day idk

[@FNGPREPPER]

Damn, glad I found this channel.

[@nateconley6432]

Excellent content as always keep it up man

[@chrisrace744]

Please pay the bill for the professional voice actor...

[@anglowarrior7970]

The last war fought by the romans in which they used the maniple system because after the Marian reforms in 107 BC the roman army will become into an professional army

[@LightxHeaven]

New research on this topic presents a more nuanced picture of what the Marian Reforms really entailed. So to say it suddenly became a "professional" army after the Jugerthine Wars is a very broad statement to make.

[@anglowarrior7970]

@@LightxHeaven I know the Rome was also fighting the cimbrians and they had already defeated many roman armies and after the defeat of jugurtha. Gaius Marius made many reforms in the roman army and made it into an professional force

[@anglowarrior7970]

@@LightxHeaven as he was made consul and after the reforms the romans were able to defeat the cimbrians and the Teutons in 2 battles and the threat of the germanic tribes was gone for some years.

[@pride2184]

what a chad just walks into Rome kills his rival then leaves. ofcourse Rome would be furious.

[@COADempsey]

Very good description of battle 👍😊

[@g.sergiusfidenas6650]

I would suggest the Battle of the Fields of Cato, more than a half a millenium later and we still find Romans fighting North African tribes plus is part of one of the more obscure, in comparison, campaigns of Justinian's reign.

[@clockworker]

Hmm, why does the wikipedia article on this battle say that the Roman army was larger and that the Roman losses were high while the Numidian losses were low? If that's wrong, someone should rectify that :)

[@draculaprinkton3208]

the video is wrong

[@ninjaa6952]

Some battles aren't documented well especially the jugurthine for some reason if the romans lost this battle they would have been a inhilated.

[@oussamachili9783]

the Numidian army suffered fewer losses due to the withdrawal of King Jugurtha at the time If the battle had gone as planned, the romans would have been annihilated there despite that the Roman losses were greater because the plan succeeded in its beginning

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas 🎅

[@HoH]

Merry Christmas to you too!

[@therisingsun4357]

Oh a Metellus in one of the History videos. Reminds me of reading the roman crime novels by John Maddox Roberts. I can highly recommend them.

[@Fred_the_1996]

It's surprising that the numidians weren't able to bribe their way out of this battle

[@dawnsparrow4477]

What a strange returning back!? Nomidian warriors used rocks 🪨 throwing instead of using swords

[@denniscleary7580]

The Numidians were famed for their Bowman 👍

[@chasechristophermurraydola9314]

Can you do an episode on the Numantine war and fighting in this war was scipo africanus the younger who was adopted by his first cousin the more famous scipo africanus and during this war two future enemies would fight on the same side and one of these enemies has this war named after him and the name is jugurtha and the other one would become a hero of rome for defeating Jugurtha but most importantly for defeating The Cimbri, Teutones, ambrones and the tigurni and this person would fight against Sulla and one of his nephews was the great Roman dictator Julius Caesar and this mans name is Gaius Marius and the Numantine war was the first war that Marius would fight.

[@HoH]

I'd love to and have been searching for decent sources for a while. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find detailed enough accounts as of yet.

[@g.sergiusfidenas6650]

Just an small correction Scipio Africanus the younger was not adopted by the famous Scipio of the Second Punic War but the son of this famous general, these two were cousins as you say though as they both were grandsons of the consul Aemelius Paullus who died at Cannae. In the Numantine War besides Marius, Jugurtha and Scipio a young Tiberius Gracchus also saw action, this war was an odd place in which several of the most important figures of the last century of The Republic started to carve their place in History.

[@genowill7081]

Great video

[@Zakariya3603]

Can you do Suvorov's battles? He was never defeated in 54 years of war.

[@HoH]

I'd love to as a future project!

[@Zakariya3603]

@@HoH Do his camapign in Italy especially, he crushed 4 French Armies at Novi, Cassano, Trebbia and Gotthard Pass.

[@alanebrahim6073]

This battle really shows you the strength of Roman Legions.

[@LightxHeaven]

I'm ready for my fix of Gaius Marius!

[@WarMachineCCS]

When enemies become allies and allies become enemies.. anyway in the long term it was proven that the SPQR war machine was almost unstopable

[@mohammedsaysrashid3587]

Thanks for sharing this History Video Military quality of Roman Fighters was decisive acted to Drawing this Obvious Victory

[@robbabcock_]

Great video! ⚔🏹

[@HoH]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@koffieatletisch]

Just as a suggestion, would it be interesting to do a video on the Batavian revolt?

[@HoH]

After your comment I spent the entire morning reading about it. It won't be before 2022 but it's certainly something I want to cover.

[@koffieatletisch]

@@HoH That would be so great! Thank you.

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Varrus:

[@richardcharay7788]

Enjoyed!

[@calebcali1482]

NANI DE FUCK HOW did the numidians bloody loose

[@KingDanny9]

Great video, can you cover the Catalan mercenary war against the Byzantines/Romans from the 1300s? Thanks again!

[@raspherion]

Wouldn't it have been wiser to send the elephants around the Roman flank, attacking their infantry and boxing them up against the hill, before charging in with your infantry? True, the enemy calvary might be able to engage your elephants but some of the infantry forces on the hill could help against that?

[@kamilkoniu4272]

woow good work merry christmas

[@HoH]

Same to you!

[@natalialivshits9439]

The almost carrhae

[@freikorp7201]

Your voice it so relaxing.

[@anasanas-ky5qm]

Good job

[@dragooll2023]

11:21 how is the left part of the square advancing horizantally while fighting?

[@zoom4897]

What’s the music that plays on the background? It’s nice

[@ArchonShon]

What a Gurthy ambush.

[@jurgschupbach3059]

Storage with or without refrigeration?

[@keirangrant1607]

If my army is double yours, I'm not committing all of them into battle.....about 1/2 of them are gonna do something tricky

[@skinovitz]

what is cavlary?

[@loneberserker4642]

yay the Jugurthine war!!

[@michaelmorgan9289]

Thank you for an interesting presentation.

[@HoH]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@bsoul3177]

oo very awesome

[@myamotomuzashi9080]

civile wars weaken you and make you an easy prey to your enemies

[@thomasmyers9128]

Didn’t know Italy even existed back then…

[@ThisOldHat]

I think Jugurtha's mistake was cutting off the line of retreat for the Romans. The Mongols for instance are said to have always left a clear path of escape when ambushing/enveloping enemies so that panic would set in as desperate soldiers flocked for the seemingly easy escape. when your enemy knows they must either fight or die, they will fight much harder.

[@frankkiri398]

Roman generals historically placed their armies in positions where they had to die or win, whenever they were outnumbered, going back to rome as a loser was woese than death. Sulla, Ceasar, Germanicus, Paulinus, Aurelian, Aetius and Belisarius. Just to name a few used this approach to gain victories from certain defeat Same military philosophy has been used since by napoleon , lee, patton and zhukov.

[@thedwightguy]

@@frankkiri398 Sun Tzu, Lord of War.

[@king_of_sin]

how about the Battle of the Allia in 387 B.C.

[@HoH]

Great suggestion! Certainly something I want to make work of in 2022.

[@bluenoteone]

I mentioned the battle of Ilerda ...Caesar

[@petermustermann8622]

And now you did again. And he won't do it. Again. Your enthusiasm is legendary. You write it down like: You just went to toilet at 4am and you were sad about that. On the way back you stumbled over a pizza box. Even worse: you stepped right into the salami. But you're tired and sad. So you're like f0ck it and you just head straight to bed. Since then you sleep with a slice of salami with a bit of cheese on it in your bed. *I mention: battle teutoburg ...... arminius* you dont get an answer and go to the next video with that same euphoria again. are you actually okay or do you need help?

[@Platanis2008]

That's why you put elite/veteran troops on your right...

[@0MVR_0]

Got too much post-production on the audio recording. The lower frequencies are running.

[@HoH]

Thanks for the feedback, I am still finding a recipe that works for me. It is a lot of trial and error.

[@0MVR_0]

@@HoH English was an acquired language for you, yet you navigate pronunciation without being clumsy. Much of this is then taken back when artificially manipulating the vocal range. Daren, the voice of KingsAndGenerals, has a naturally deep voice which would be difficult to replicate, however the audio editing is minimal, allowing clarity in his accentuation.

[@HoH]

@@0MVR_0 what would you say would improve the voice editing? Because I used to receive many negative comments about the 'audio quality' back when I left it unedited. Even though, admittedly, I never thought it was that bad.

[@0MVR_0]

@@HoH kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppTCpJqcjKaZsNk Notice how this uploader minimizes the change in bass boosting, because past a certain point the effects turn excessive. Additionally, when producing vocals over music, avoid overlapping 'the center of mass' between the frequencies. Songs that use a heavy bass can interfere with bass boosted recordings.

[@chrisrace744]

Did you fire the professional VO guy?

[@-carthage7779]

Numidians needs carthaginians to guide them

[@-carthage7779]

@@دزيري-ي3ف فرق كبير بين من يفتخر بتاريخ بلده العضيم و بين من لا تاريخ له يفتخر بلاعب كرة قدم ...

[@-carthage7779]

@@دزيري-ي3ف هل حقا بكل سذاجة تضن ان شخص عراقي او تونسي او مصري او سعودي سيفضل ان يكون جزائري على ان يكون من بلده ؟! وصلت بكم السذاجة لتضنوا انكم انتم فقط تحبون بلدكم و تعتزون بانتمائكم ؟ لا الومكم فانتم شعب بلا تاريخ او هو ية تسعون جاهدين لخلق هوية و قصة تروونها . طبعا بشهادتكم انتم انفسكم kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH2YlHuLrdt-b5o

[@-carthage7779]

@@دزيري-ي3ف 😑 لا شوكة و لا هم يحزنون . انتم فقط عاطين انفسكم قيمة اكبر من حجمكم . الفيديو فيه جزائريون يتحدثون عن الجزاىر ولا واحد ضربكم على ايديكم كي تقولوا ذلك . لكن كلمة الحق كان لابد لها ان تظهر حتى و ان سعيتم لاخفائها . الجزائر بلا هوية .

[@-carthage7779]

@@دزيري-ي3ف عندي سؤال لما مازلتم انتم الوحيدين في العالم تقومون بفيديوهات تحاولون فيها ايجاد هوية و تاريخ تتبنونه ؟ لما لا تجد تونسي او مغربي او مصري او عراقي يقوم بفيديوهات يبحث فيها عن معلومات مبعثرة ليعطي بلده هوية و تاريخ ؟ ببساطة لانكم دولة بلا هوية مازالت تصارع لتجد قصة و تاريخ تتبناه ههههه

[@-carthage7779]

@@دزيري-ي3ف افضل هذا يلي بلا هوية kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4eQk5dpYseEetE

[@Briselance]

04:33 Postumius? That doesn't sound good, as a name. 😛

[@thedwightguy]

Jugurtha was the commsumate asshole but he must have had the respect of his troops: How? Numidians were incredibly fierce warriors and used to desert conditions, but this guy MUST have had other abilities besides murdering everyone close and great tactics.

[@bsoul3177]

yay

[@brianmitchell1049]

Did you say a thousand elephants?

[@HoH]

A few dozen, and thousands infantry.

[@anirbellahcen5551]

And keep in mind that all these resources are Roman.

[@oussamachili9783]

I read Sallust account was clearly biased and subjectiv although the outcome of the battle was not decisive the Romans suffered greater losses You could have made another video about the battle of zama and Suthull the romans lost there hard

[@Zakariya3603]

Rome suffered 20,000 Casualties approximately whereas Jugurtha suffered up to 3,000 killed.

[@mbathroom1]

it's bequeethd by the way not bequeathED and siege not besiegement :)

[@HoH]

Thanks!

[@mbathroom1]

@@HoH you're welcome

[@luzalgarin9518]

Soon the fulfillment of Isaiah 2:4 will take place: "He will render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, nor will they learn war anymore." We will enjoy absolute peace, for all the tragical events will be forgotten, according to Isaiah 65:17: "For look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth; And the former things will not be called to mind, Nor will they come up into the heart." And there is more.

[@HH-ug9rh]

the historian was roman , so i do not think he was objective in his writtings, i rad his book and found many contradictions

[@marctempler3250]

The childish speech bubbles you dot the program with completely undermines its seriousness and mars the visual presentation. Keep such witticisms as "Dude!" as the response of the Roman Senate to the next on line fantasy game you play with your high school age friends

[@HoH]

I think a slight joke every-so-often is a nice addition to my work.

[@paulhuedepohl1661]

@@HoH You are correct.

[@paulhahn9709]

Wrong. This is KZbin, not an Ivy League doctoral dissertation. Besides that... maybe Rome's official communique really did just say "Dude..." (in Latin).