Housing Policies in Eastern Bloc - Cities: Skylines - Altengrad 81

[@micbln8967]

ah finally a new episode of the most beatiful and most educational cs build on youtube

[@saber1885]

WAKE UP BABE NEW ALTENGRAD VIDEO

[@RealAtf]

Im so lonely Akruas is my only friend

[@saber1885]

​​@@RealAtfhello all my 356.700 close friends - atun shei films

[@marcin_kalbarczyk]

Real

[@danonck]

Please never end this series Akruas. It is the best thing to happen to the CS community or even for the entirety of KZbin. Speaking of building panel houses on a hilly terrain, I sort of grew up in one of those in my hometown of Kielce, Poland. There's this Osiedle Na Stoku / Osiedle Świętokrzyskie that's a great representation of building them on a wonky terrain. But thanks to that people living there on higher floors get to have the best views over the nearby Świętokrzyskie Mountains or even if the weather conditions are perfect you could see the Tatras Mountains located 200+ km away.

[@KittenRaee]

About construction material and home equipment we had a rhyme in Poland: Tym chata bogata, co ukradnie tata (home as rich as dad could steal). People often used stolen construction materials also on recreational coops (Rodzinne Ogródki Działkowe/ROD) to build sheds or summerhouses

[@danonck]

Yeah, totally. I recently spoke to a guy selling his house explaining that some steel beams in the ceiling were actually parts of train tracks his grandpa took from the nearby construction of a railyard. Speaking of trains, I once visited a house with an inspector and when he knocked on the walls he was baffled to find out the house is wooden, not made of brick. It turned out to be built entirely using wooden railroad ties. 😅

[@florianw2708]

I remember still the massive break in this project when youtube updated its rules... and the shock when i thought Altengrad would be dead forever... I am so happy it continued and we all can see and learn from this series. Akuras, this went amazing:)

[@Charles_Anthony]

What did this hellhole do now? I really do despise this site.

[@nomedocanal8496]

what rules? what happened?

[@jontomcz]

Oh, what happend with the rules?

[@florianw2708]

This happened probably so years ago, Back then youtube planned to/made creators responsible that their content would also be created without violation of future guideline/rule changes. That's a pretty rough summary. Akuras made a community post on KZbin about that. Maybe it is still there and explains this topic better.

[@kristss8534]

I love this series, I think for me it will go down as all-time best CS1 series on YT

[@hoholu4650]

definitely

[@aug5925]

Hands down the best series on KZbin. Geat footage and great commentary. I always learn something new watching Altengrad vids.

[@frenchfriar]

I always learn so much from these videos, thank you so much for sharing the history behind your builds!

[@skagenrora1236]

Would be cool to see some areas with “dachas” aka summer houses/colony lots. In different areas around the city.

[@BlueKingNL]

yes!!!!

[@kaiserteddie9564]

were they a thing in central europe?

[@joenuts5167]

@@kaiserteddie9564Germany has them everywhere. In Berlin at least

[@mimikal7548]

How about building some allotment gardens? Not sure how it is elsewhere but in Poland there are loads of them in cities, often filling out odd spaces such as by railway tracks and such.

[@danonck]

Could also be a nice and quick way to fill out some empty spaces between districts so I'm all for it! Warsaw has them in some prime locations too, not only in the suburbs.

[@artemkovalenko2999]

Wow, didn't know there was so much troubles with getting a house in Central Europe back then, also didn't know that you needed money to rent or buy it. In USSR it was way easier and didn't require any money (of course if you were not bribing).

[@lagritsalammas]

Depends on where in the USSR. In Estonia, for example, the whole setup was highly similar to the way Akruas described happening in Central Europe.

[@artemkovalenko2999]

@@lagritsalammas In Ukrainian SSR it was really easy. All of my family friends, got their flats in late eighties when they were all 20+ years old. Most of them were simple workers, but one was a military officer and another was ex Chernobyl atom worker. So they got their flats in Kyiv faster. We got our in 1989, just built. Like Akruas said, when there was still construction equipment. It is good to know about other republic’s experiences too!

[@jaschbum_5833]

I think I recognize the higher square apartement blocks near the garages from my neighbourhood in East Berlin.

[@lol2386]

Always the best friday when Altengrad comes up!!! Thanks so much for the work, looks amazing as always! Since you mentioned the racining track, it would be a really cool idea in the very distant future (like the 2000s) to then retire it and transform it into a park with luxurious housing around it. But I'm guessing you have a grand plan for it already:D

[@supernova7069]

Missed this series soo much these few days

[@TheOrderOfDanos]

Fingers crossed for an episode where you make embassies, so much scope for special complexes

[@slobodapeter]

How about an episode dedicated to free time activities? People in the late 70s and 80s spent quite a lot of time during the weekends there. Small example of some "chatová" or "zahradkářská" kolonie - explain the concept of "chata" or maybe "wochenendhaus" (i dont think that simply cabin or cottage is the right translation). Something similar to dacha mentioned bellow, but dacha is a more eastern European concept :) It can be connected to the race circuit episode. Me, as a 80s child, I remember weekends spent either in the gardens, or moto-sport or horse racing was the thing at that time and it was a big event to go for a race to Brno or Slušovice :)

[@mschaub962]

I love your series. What was also very typical for these residential areas were the large "Kleingartenanlage". Such as in Chemnitz (Gablenz, Yorckgebiet) but also Greiz-Pohlitz. In my opinion, such an area would fit well into the cityscape. Keep it up and all the best.

[@TheGamingSyndrom]

yeah, i alwaya wondered if those were an exclusivelt germsn thing or an eastern block thing

[@somechicken6338]

WE WANT MORE ALTENGRAD VIDEOS!

[@doublea06]

👍🏾

[@dalton-at-work]

ty for the educational and high-effort videos! The racetrack redesign would be suited to the 90's even, so no rush there

[@kestrile]

Your techniques and attention to detail is just mesmerizing to watch and I learn so much about history through this series.

[@lasoloz6972]

Another great and educational episode. A minor thing that popped into my mind: I think using some fences here and there would improve the realism. E.g. I could imagine a fence between the garages and train tracks.

[@juliuserikbunda3946]

Please don’t end/rush this because of CS2. It will take CS2 so long for it to have the quality of this.

[@jontomcz]

Amazing as always! Thank you for this amazing content! The connection between history talk and timelapse/building is amazing. Please continue this series, at least until the present day! On the other hand, I would enjoy more episodes from each decade. Maybe some gentle changes all around the town? Some more ugly, but nostalgic red-white fences? New tram-stop totems, shelters? Some upgrades on the railway? And btw.: Wouldn´t the main avenue going to this district be a great spot for a tramline? Or maybe some fast tramline like Líšen in Brno or Modřany in Prague? And maybe something around the city? I understand that you do not want to build the repetitive outskirts, but maybe some tramp village/cottages next to the river, some gardening lots, Spartakiada grounds, an airport, or a "JZD" (for English wiewers, it is something like state-run/forced agricultural farms). Just throwing ideas, it would be amazing if you managed to explore a lot more of the pre-revolution period. Thank you for this best series!!

[@bruh666]

It never ceases to amaze me how good the concepts of these videos is. Watching super satisfying city building with insightful educational commentary , even when it's the type of day where I'm really struggling to focus I can always watch the whole thing

[@JOKERATM]

This city needs a big stadium/sports complex. Most cities in the eastern block held big parades and festivals in them. There's an asset on the workshop based on Berlin's Jahn sportpark that would fit very nicely in this city. For a closed sports venue you could take inspiration from the Spodek in Katowice

[@epilog99]

How about a big tram loop? How I mean it: Expand The tram from the industrial zone along this Main Street until the curved “main building” with the red roof. Then split the two tram directions in two. Both go right through the building itself. One turns towards the newly built panel houses, the other one goes along the street through the red houses (90 degrees between the tracks). They connect at the train station. So you have basically 4 stations: The tram stops first at the curved red building, then at a station between that building and the train station, then at the train station, then at the panel houses and then again at the curved red building, now going back towards the industrial zone where it came from. Supposing you didn’t built something else with that tram line yet, that would be interesting! Bye :)

[@valentinsn-ostalgiemodellbahn]

Again and educational and well told episode - thanks again for your efforts to get you viewers common wth this very intereting theme, which still does shape the present.

[@diesdas9400]

I just love the fact that you were talking about the eastern block the whole time, meanwhile in my Home City, Vienna, it was exactly the same with housing and corruption in housing, even though Vienna and Austria weren't part of the eastern block. Amazing video! - love the fact hope smoothly you combine educational and gaming content

[@Charles_Anthony]

Thank you so much for continuing this series!

[@MatesMega]

As a Czechoslovak, I can confirm that this city is real and sick to the same time

[@jakeemchism7257]

I deeply anticipate altengrad 2070 when the ancient city is completely surrounded by ultra tall skyscrapers, insane interchanges, and an entirely straight high-speed rail line that goes through the castle

[@MrMniksRB]

damn this hits so close to home. thank you, Akruas

[@VerdePoofie000]

Reminds me about home. I'm literally living in that kind of apartment.

[@mikithekynd]

Friday, coffee and my favourite digital diorama. Life's good ❤

[@jamesandrenfernantan9810]

Quite unexpected for this to be the last episode of the 1970s. Can't wait for the future decades!

[@Karelwolfpup]

fascinating as always, my dude ^w^ amazing to watch the sprawl creeping out over time

[@LeeHawkinsPhoto]

1.) LOVE the history! I’ve been playing Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic a lot, and I find the facets of communist life fascinating. I’m glad to hear it explained from your perspective. 2.) You _are_ a detailing masochist 😂 like you said in your CS2 dam video! Seeing you include all the elements I’m now used to seeing in WRSR is so cool though. I am just blown away by how good you make it all look in every detail. I wish I had this level of patience in CS. Oh, and it’s so cool to see it’s all functional too! Thanks so much!

[@Mhmnuhu]

A Nice start to the weekend 🎉

[@Hobbyrepubliken]

I've lived in co-op housing in Sweden for years. Never had such a low rent. It was amazing

[@Hobbyrepubliken]

15:39 Almost every blue collar summer house built south of Stockholm 🤫

[@aspanon1560]

would love some numbers on rent prices/coop up front payments! great vid as per usual

[@Akruas]

Czechoslovak law from 1964 set 2.5 CSK for 1m2, so 150 CSK for 60m2 flat, with salaries around that time 1500 CSK a month and by 1989 3170 CSK. I found someone paid 10k CSK in 1963 us the upfront payment, the newlywed loans were up to 30k CSK in 70s, 50k in 80s, so those were probably the payment ranges too.

[@0Defensor0]

How realistic would it be to build a new bridge right next to this new residential area, to connect it with the other side of the river?

[@benrosedesigns]

Yes, something like would be very cool to see or even a tunnel that was conceived in the 1990s but not built till after the 2010s. It would definitely make some interesting highway connections too.

[@blackspell9890]

Thank you for continuing this series tho CS2 is out now

[@Lilgobor]

I love this series. It would be awesome to be able to read your scripts in an article format.

[@Dietsch_]

Altengrad bros we are so back

[@jakubcesarzdakos5442]

Back to watching one of my favourite series

[@FoolishPedro]

Can't wait for when Altengrad reaches 2100s. In todays episode we will be building a new Hyperloop station with plenty of parking for flying cars. This station sits just south of the android factory, close to the cloning facility!

[@pistakrk4888]

yesss finalyy!!!! please let this series going

[@DavidJimenez-ux2lw]

I'd like to see some mini-project explaining football teams and their relation to some parts of the government or some big factories like the dynamo berlin related to the stasi the partizan of belgrade related to the army

[@konkon3955]

Great video! Are you planning to place some art and sculptures? It was important thing when panel suburbs were built.

[@dodo_hd9572]

i think it would make sense to build allotment gardens on the edge of the city, firstly there wouldnt be the need to build some kind of suburb equivalent and secondly its realistic to have a city ending like that (for example in Rostock, Germany there are blocks of houses like 12 storys high then a street then a allotment garden comlex and there the city ends)

[@kamilgrundmann936]

As a Pole I need to admit that you said nowa huta Kraków very well. Cheers

[@rico4.700]

co-ops arent perfect. but damn they are cheap, i pay 50% of my peers for an app in copenhagen. though there are frequent cases of people getting apartments for knowing the right people.

[@dlg1812]

Just start the video and know that it will be great.

[@pomeranianproductions647]

What is the name of the asset at 15:55? The flat building which you are placing the pavement tiles in front of?

[@Shmeks]

While watching I was preparing to write an angry comment "you are missing playgrounds" :) Still, I think more playgrounds, small football fields, kindergartens, schools and local hospitals are needed for the more realistic look

[@sisthefirst]

I waited weeks for this video!😄

[@zdenekdolezal9646]

Šumperák is very underestimated type of housing. Every city, every village here in Czech Republic have some variant of them. Usually as single house, even tho I saw few places where they were build in uneven row pretty close to your placing. They were usually panel-based, so pretty cheap and very well designed especially for period of their creation. They became really popular, for years to come, so they was built even after socialist era ended do 90's even tho modernised. And I even saw some very modern projects last few years that was based on basic principles and visuals of Šumperák, even tho those are not panel based, but made from modern materials of course. German Okál was also pretty popular here. I live in smal town that pretty big chunk of it is named Okály, because of those houses. Some of them alsou build in late 90's.

[@tomp5446]

Can't wait to see how the city changes in the 80s and especially 90s.😊

[@skutočny_svišť]

90's in Altengrad Is democratic and criminality

[@tomp5446]

@@skutočny_svišť Some heavy gentrification will also happen in the future.

[@doublea06]

You forgot the pedestrian bridges or underground/more parking spaces, but never mind.

[@beni_benyei]

I loveee this series

[@sebaxiv]

Great, as usual ✨

[@LucasFernandez-fk8se]

I hope he connects this estate with the highway on the other side near the other housing estate. I feel like it would make altengrad more connected. I like how he goes into depth about the commie blocks and the little distinctions between each era of commieblock

[@KyNYC212]

Another amazing creation!!!

[@TristanC474]

NEW VIDEO 🎉

[@Basilico_]

Anyone knows the name of the assets at 1:46 ?

[@Akruas]

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2832193941

[@Bronxtale7645]

I know you're trying to be as accurate as possible but I feel like that place would look miles better if it had like small football fields and little parks in between, The lot being kind of empty with the slim tall building's on the center is one of the reasons why they look so depressing and kind of dead

[@lucabutera7570]

Ayo this ep was fire

[@bonumonu5534]

Ah i wish it was t least 1 hour long!

[@schmon2178]

Great video

[@NomisTowns]

Great episode

[@civishamburgum1234]

Is it normal, that I get exited about housibg policy?

[@DavidJimenez-ux2lw]

you're not alone my friend

[@Honza135]

Jé, už ti funguje parkování aut na parkovištích!

[@JosipBrozTito.]

look at the kranj in slovenija we have planina like this

[@micahsarm]

Co-op doesn't mean no profit. It means the profit is going to workers only

[@doublea06]

6:41 (Translation)

[@crash_matix4859]

Fantastic video as always, but i noticed something weird in the octagon block complexs; the angles are like empty or not filled in any way...am i wrong or will you take care of them in a future? I just ask cause i love study soviet architecture and i didnt remember this kind empty angles in commie blocks😅

[@Akruas]

Its not Soviet architecture.

[@PavelDalia]

That's not soviet buildings!🙄 original soviet buildings are much bigger! Every soviet residential area had a cinema, a supermarket, schools and metro station. (in larger cities). The main road, with 3 lanes,for travel direction, divided the areas. Most of the time the main artery it was traveled by a tram line or trolleybus (along with omnipresent buses with yellow Ikarus 260/280 and Liaz-677)😉 Soviet residential construction kzbin.info/www/bejne/gHi5c6ltqNt-gtEfeature=shared

[@PavelDalia]

Soviet apartments & microdistrict😉👍🏻 kzbin.info/www/bejne/roGWfmB4odWomaMfeature=shared

[@crash_matix4859]

@@PavelDalia Ok, maybe i was rude to say soviet architecture, but the question itself was about the reason behind the empty spaces in the angles of octagons blocks; cause it gives me a sense of non-complete structure. This is the reason i asked if there was any example of this kind of choice in real life, or just something to finish in the following episodes😅

[@Hurkas]

Are you planning on building an airport?

[@paulrk11good47]

i like the way you talk about communism...without saying it was bad and why capitalism is soooo much better :3 but also not saying capitalism was bad and communism is sooooo much better

[@peterpop2403]

Hell yea!!

[@TheGamingSyndrom]

Idk why, vut Altengrad really reminds me of the city of Leipzig...but maybe central european old cities + communist reality were just very universal

[@xcalum_mcnal21x46]

Wonder will he redvelop these projects in the 2000s

[@YeenkyYang]

More likes more likes

[@Konrad-z9w]

We had a proverb for stealing construction materials in East Germany: sozialistisch umlagern = to socialist relocate :)

[@idc1347]

nice

[@rohitsarowa3416]

😍

[@itsmechannel0]

typical polish hood XD

[@KrokLP]

Very nice! But I can't help but notice how small the fields around Altengrad still are for being in a communist country!

[@loveglas3580]

Communism is when fields

[@doublea06]

✴✴✴✴🌟

[@Meister_Warpy]

I cannot believe that I learn more about communism era from a CS video than from a post-communist country's school. Its sad tbh.

[@m3gak3k79]

please more of this and less of CS2

[@EkoFranko]

You know there were a WWI before WWII that also caused hosing crisis

[@TheGamingSyndrom]

how? most war action was relegated to static warlines in ww1

[@showyourteeth2180]

Besides that this is a great series, I notice that I still prefer CS1.