Hovind Vs Professor Dave | Creation Vs Evolution | Podcast

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Kent Hovind Professor Dave Debate Creation vs Evolution
#Hovind #ProfessorDave #DEBATE

[@ModernDayDebate]

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[@LongshotLynx]

James, you should have moderated. As in, you basically didn’t moderate at all. Of the parties included, you were the worst. Which is really saying something in his case given one of debaters has the intellectual capacity of a mentally challenged SpongeBob. Moderating debates is about keeping topics on point but even more importantly there has to be some active analyzing going on and judgement as to when soliciting a direct answer is in the best interest for elucidating the merits of the topic of debate, and establishing stances so the debaters can move on if not build on. Instead you just allowed the argument to go in circles and eat up time. Distilling a little each side’s points and redirecting them towards hebother person on their behalf. Moderating means sometimes reframing what has already been stated by both or just asking or answering what has been asked or answered already and then holding the a person asking or answering accountable to a bare minimum, such as not *only* answering with a new question or otherwise blatantly evading, and make sure that questions aren’t repeated constantly. When Kent kept asking the same question about Protista and Dave repeatedly answered you should have stopped them both and parroted Kent’s question and Dave’s answer. At bare minimum you should have prompts them to move to a different point. I’ve mostly only listened to your moderate debates involving Vaush, and I chalk it up to Vaush’s being capable and of having wherewithal to be direct and initiate moving on to a different subject when he recognizes an impass due to the arguments or the other person blatantly evading. Not this debate, but Every now and again I’ve watched you interject but it’s usually just to try to establish equal time or to impose some short back and forth format, but you seem to recognize one or both parties are blowing up all semblance of communication but then afterwards you often wont recognize when that produces novel conversation and you cut it off prematurely just for the sake of equal time. Imposing any given type of debate format isnt a replacement for how and when the format of that debate is analysis moderated. Staying quiet on the sidelines and only inserting yourself to make sure both are given equal time is not the end all of what makes for fair moderation. I also think that, beyoumd rhetorical insults of common variety, when one person makes an explicit allegation and directly accuses the other of something legally liable, slanderous, or otherwise extremely defamatory, such as a child abuser, as Kent did here, any decent moderator will stop that person and either warm them to cease such claims or immediately provide evidence, or tell them to stay on topic. You should not have allowed Kent to claim Dave is a child abuser simply because he espouses evolution. And if someone like Kent doesn’t want to retract the statement or agree to stop, it’s the moderator’s responsibility to hold his feet to the fire and provide evidence that teaching evolution to kids is abuse.

[@Waynesification]

It says there is a reply to this, but it's been removed. Notice a bit of that here.

[@ForgedinPrint]

@@Waynesification that happens a lot on most debate channels unfortunately. It's not usually the fault of the debate channel, it's more so there's hidden words or phrases that will auto remove the comment without seeing it. Links also really, really increase the odds of it. Happens to me sometimes so I usually reload the video just to make sure it's still there.

[@Waynesification]

@@ForgedinPrint Thanks.

[@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist]

@@ForgedinPrint yep certain keywords get triggered AI removes them they hate links anything outside of KZbin is a no-no, anything pertaining to the truth can I get deleted. Anything that is not in accordance with the worldly agenda doesn't get fair treatment. This doesn't help how people view the world people just fall back on what everyone else believes or what they're taught in school. Seems like most people believe in some form of a god. I believe in the one true God Jesus Christ King of Kings, The atheist demographic is low, I was surprised when I saw this I thought it was pretty hot but there are a lot of those that believe God guided Evolution which is still incorrect God put us here and pre-configured all the DNA.

[@mesaplayer9636]

Something is wrong with the video the upper left of the screen keeps repeating the same thing

[@akoskormendi9711]

The audio track must be stuck and keeps repeating

[@CedanyTheAlaskan]

Yeah..I'm glad I'm not a young earth creationist anymore lol

[@toastertag7536]

🤨🤔🧐😏

[@anthonyjames5474]

Cedany - so you found proof for your fairytale called Evolution? Bring it and get destroyed Right Here and Now

[@toastertag7536]

@@CedanyTheAlaskan im glad for you man,

[@ExtremelyTastyBread]

I am still not convinced that Kent is a real person, it feels impossible

[@stevenalexander7309]

I am pretty sure he is a character akin to Andy Kaufman's Tony Clifton. Nobody could possibly be that dense.

[@dr.floridamanphd]

David Minerley, some of Hovind’s family have disowned him because he refuses to correct his errors.

[@ItsSkepticTank]

It’s impossible to educate someone whose income is based on them being ignorant.

[@tiagoscherer1158]

"Why does no animal today has the ability to change into something else today ?". This is what gave it away, Hovind is not for real.

[@johngood9877]

31:24 in and Kent has this Dude Rattled. He actually admitted that he is related to a Sponge. You know what else is a sponge.....SpongeBob. LOL

[@Ma_nerd]

I applaud Kent Hovind. His ability to not answer anything or by saying " I don't believe it" while wiggling out of every question asked is impressive. He says he doesn't want to debate on any topic other than agreed upon but he himself changes the topic every time he doesn't have any good answer. He based his entire argument on bible based science but as soon as Dave brought it up Kent quickly changed to different topic and refused to talk about it. He knows he could get hammered by Dave on that point.

[@nathanwright845]

Dave is not a professor lmao he is a 3 time college drop out need to do some research

[@jeffmaehre7150]

He gets terrified anytime anyone asks him a question. He doesn't like going off script.

[@Uwilldyeeventually2]

Arrogant and quite pubescent , I keep describing him with this word bc he's truly acts like a 12-14yr.old boy !!

[@Dungshlawg]

@@nathanwright845doesn’t mean he isn’t showing literal scientific facts. Even a fucking middle schooler could show these facts and there would be no issue. His education level has nothing to do with the facts being presented

[@nathanwright845]

@Dungshlawg lol not a proffesor dave needs to move out of mommy's house

[@myninjalife]

It's pretty horrible that the moderator didnt say anything when Kent called Dave a child abuser. As far as I'm concerned thats one of the most serious accusations you could make.

[@Alpharelic]

Anyone who knows Kent truly will pull an Uno reverse card on him. Not only has he bragged to a crowd of people for beating his son, he denies responsibility over a child drowning at his theme park.

[@Uwilldyeeventually2]

​@@Alpharelicno shit Sherlock , that would be an issue for whoever was responsible for the child , duhhh

[@Alpharelic]

@@Uwilldyeeventually2 Kent's still breaking the law under the Occupier's Liability Act (1957, 1984), which states the occupier to be liable for the physical safety of everyone who comes onto the premises. Under this, he is guilty of not having a trained lifeguard on duty, failing to monitor activities of visitors near water, and failing to give adequate water safety training to volunteers. He may have signs that say "visit at your own risk", but many courts reject this on the basis that it violates fundamental human rights.

[@MiguelFernandez-wz4ik]

Kent meant as an "intellectual"l abuse. Not what you're thinking.

[@andrewdurfee2891]

According to who's moral standard?...

[@ItsSkepticTank]

Kent: “I taught biology for 15 years” PD: “no you didn’t. You lied to children in a church...” Lol.

[@lloydchristmas4547]

I LOLed too.

[@JuanMartinez-cv7hr]

Probably my favorite retort ever to his "teaching claim" I also like the way kent squirms when they talk about his "credentials" and his tax problems from the past...loool...

[@johngood9877]

31:24 in and Kent has this Dude Rattled. He actually admitted that he is related to a Sponge. You know what else is a sponge.....SpongeBob. LOL

[@johngood9877]

This guy believes he came from a strawberry. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

[@johngood9877]

I find it funny how Dave is throwing dirt while Kent is gone XD Dave is obviously trying to discredit Kent by using insults. In the end, Dave can't connect the dots because he is blinded by evolution "Other scientists say it's true, that means it must be true and everyone who says otherwise is dumb!" I feel bad for Kent because he has to put up with this dudes arrogance and ignorance.

[@robertkaslow3720]

The hardest 3 years of Hovind's life was the second grade.

[@kennnnys]

Three years? Gees that's still not long enough

[@hakanarnklint1070]

Hahaha!! Robert, I salute you. Made My Day!

[@___LC___]

As a kindergarten drop out

[@Puchuchi747]

I'm still ROFL

[@insciencewetrust1183]

😂

[@KonwTheTrut]

My favorite part of this whole debate is the opening arguments. Specifically where Dave was like, “I don’t care what your book says’ and the Hovind is like, ‘here are my facts from this book you mentioned. Oh, and Dave tells fairytales’ Haha how does anyone take Hovind seriously.

[@_N3N_]

I don’t agree with everything he says but we all are going to have to face Jesus one day, whether you like it or not, so I pray you don’t close yourself off too the only way, the truth and the light. Jesus Christ of Nazareth, he died on the cross for us and our sins so we may have everlasting life.❤

[@KonwTheTrut]

@@_N3N_ cool. I never asked anyone to do any of that for me. That’s honestly his problem. If he doesn’t like that then maybe next time he should take breather before impulsively unaliving himself over problems he creates in the first place. Maybe the best thing this god of yours can do for us is leave us the hell alone. Gtfo of here with that childish way of thinking.

[@9ine-fd6zc]

@@_N3N_ Dude I am a Hindu which is an older religion than what you practice. There is no threat what you are trying to impose with your belief, a blackmail where if you don't follow my fairy god then he is merciless asshole

[@Mark2019Behan]

​@@_N3N_jesus is a manmade con artist that never existed and there is not one single evidence of him/it only the book of fables

[@Mark2019Behan]

​@@KonwTheTrut😂 love your comment exactly my thoughts

[@felixzyrna1407]

I'm extremely grateful for your videos Dapper. I have learned a lot, and your ability to remain on point and polite is extremely admirable. I know so much more about dinosaurs and that's just awesome 😊

[@markjamie4002]

An 8 year-old arguing stubbornly and illogically about stuff he clearly doesn't understand without any evidence is kind of cute. A 70 year old man doing it is just plain sad...

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

At least Kent has not run for office.

[@redmule8621]

LOL, you profess to be wise?

[@eyes2see167]

Wait...dave is 70? Wow he ages really well!

[@redmule8621]

Just saying, folks aren't smart enough to know, so they believe Dave's theories or the Scripture. I'll take the Scripture. Dave's theories take to large a leap of faith.

[@eyes2see167]

@Kevin McDougall wait...but shouldnt he evolve? Dont things get better with time?

[@JediMasterEzio]

Needs to have a rule that states, “No question can be answered with another question.” That’ll kill any response Kent Hovind has...

[@jesseviitanen9317]

Yes

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@jesseviitanen9317 Please BE the 180 Degree Opposite of Cancel-Culture and be helpful by flagging K.H...

[@ezekielanderson9055]

*Dave

[@JediMasterEzio]

@@tiffanyfrank3654 , bias? It's bias to call out what "Dr." Kent Hovind does on a regular basis? Did I say that Professor Dave never does this? I think your bias is showing a bit more than mine, lol! If you had seen any Kent's other debates (I use that word for lack of a better term), you would understand my comment was based on observation, not on bias....

[@JediMasterEzio]

@@tiffanyfrank3654 , um Kent Hovind has made that claim you fucking lunatic, lol! A couple of things you need to know, first you don't need a PhD to be a professor, lol! Second, he has a BA in Chemistry, and a MA for education. He has in fact taught classes in high school and undergrad programs. Please, stop being stupid, and save yourself some embarrassment...

[@OlSCrabs]

I've been a Christian most of my life, and I grew up in the church, and I think it's really important and valuable that ModernDayDebate give people such as Mr. Hovind a platform just like this one. I can tell you firsthand that a lot of the people tangled up in religion are EXTREMELY confused about how the world works, and where their faith fits into it. I know there's confused people in the secular arenas, too, but churches can definitely be a gathering place for unstable minds, and it's important that the everyday person sees that. MDD is letting the crazies "out" themselves in a forum where there is an opposing viewpoint to help prevent indoctrination, and I think that's really great.

[@obiwanduglobi6359]

That's exactly his business model. Fooling the weak. In case that Hovind is correct and there is a judging god at the end of our lifes, the odds for people like you and Hovind aren't good imo.

[@joelstewart7344]

You, OC, not being "tangled up in religion", can explain in simple terms how the endless number of laws that make the universe possible came into existence and how they're dependably maintained. Too, since you're so marvelously clear headed, you can run on to explain where the unimaginable amount of energy required to initially create the universe came from! Also, tell us where the energy that incessantly propels the expansion of the universe is coming from! I can't wait to hear from you! Hey, maybe Disgustingly Arrogant Dave'll have an answer for you! OC, you may have a problem with all the big words he likes to throw around to show how brilliant he is may be a problem!

[@russellg9622]

Agreed, I grew up and moved back to a very prominent area of religion and discussion is important.

[@thegreatazal5021]

As an atheist I never even thought about it like this I just came here to laugh at ken

[@AndyCampbellMusic]

Why don't religious people who pretend or claim they believe in ONE imaginary god, understand the obvious fact, that their non belief in THOUSANDS of other gods that other people claim they believe in, makes them a very strong atheist ? Why don't they understand that faith is indistinguishable from stupidity?

[@kaisanimmortal]

This isn’t even a debate. It’s just two people arguing and constantly trying to speak over one another. Not to mention the insane amount of insulting of one another. I don’t believe I’ve ever seen worse moderation in my life.

[@micahbinns2740]

The debate is over once you argue with a creationist lmao..

[@kaisanimmortal]

@@micahbinns2740 I’m sure both sides say that. Don’t be so arrogant.

[@ohhgeez865]

kent: the bible is my science book dave: do you want to talk about the bible? kent: im not prepared for that.

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

To be fair, _neither_ of them were prepared for that. First, Kent has a very bizarre strain of literalist interpretation of the Bible in which he believes the Bible is supposed to be a science textbook. He is also a "King James Only-ist," and thinks the KJV is somehow the ultimate authority on what God was trying to convey with the Bible. Second, Dave making an argument like "the Bible says a whale is a fish, and that's a scientific error" is false, and _also_ reflects an argument from English translation. The original Greek (κήτους) is translated as whale, sea monster, huge fish, or dolphin. It also referred to a constellation that looks like a whale (and that other people groups have called things that would indicate it to be a whale or a sea monster). Its descendant word in Latin means marine mammal (e.g. whales, porpoises and dolphins) or sea monster. “Fish” was not a taxonomic distinction. So “huge fish” was understood to mean “giant thing swimming in the ocean.” Like a whale.

[@NelemNaru]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 The Bible is scientifically incorrect that anyone could be swallowed by a “giant thing swimming in the ocean” and live for 3 days. Only one species of whale even has a throat big enough to fit a human. And they would suffocate or be crushed or burned in acid if that happened.

[@arizonaskye3917]

@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Great, thanks! Also just bc it is known as a "whale" today, does not mean it was known as a whale in those days. They may have called it a big fish and didn't yet use the term "whale".

[@haydensanford1987]

​@@jacksyoutubechannel4045For you to equate Kent's batshit crazy reasoning with Dave's scientific knowledge because of one sentence is disingenuous. I suspect you to be a member of that death cult Kent is espousing. Do you really think that Dave was going to end his argument against the Bible with "a whale isn't a fish?" You're as bad as Kent.

[@eduardopena5893]

@@arizonaskye3917 Not to mention that the "scientific community" is to this day changing classifications of organisms. Because more and more evidence is being provided that kills their previous "facts" so they have to change everything to fit into their neat little mythical model.

[@TheRandynorris]

As a mechanic I can tell you Chevy and ford lug nut will not interchange

[@tinyjim123]

This comment is underappreciated. Lol 🤣

[@eduardopena5893]

As also a mechanic, I can tell you that lugnuts all come in fairly universal sizes and threads. So yeah, you would probably find a Chevy lug nut that does fit a Ford hub. Body panels would be a different story.

[@NoahMotion1970]

And if we trace it all back far enough, we still get to iron ore.

[@seaofnihilism4637]

About to say bro I worked at Autzone for a little bit when I was in my early 20s and I was like wtf to him saying that lol

[@xq10xa]

That depends on what type they are. Some do interchange so you are not completely correct.

[@armtruth]

“Don’t you see the lines connecting the dogs to the Protista son?” Lol!!

[@JesseMeijer]

If God really existed He wouldn't have created Kent Hovind to defend His creation.

[@larannar123]

Damn,once again arguing with Hovind is like playing chess with a pigeon... They just knock over all the pieces,shit all over the board and then declare themselves the winner....🙄😖

[@CedanyTheAlaskan]

I hope you arent basing all of a Christianity on Hovind

[@larannar123]

@@CedanyTheAlaskan Nope,trust me after many years of being a teacher,then Deacon, and finally ordained Minister,it took over four years of hundreds of hours of debates, lectures, documentaries before leaving the faith... Hovind just happens to be one of the loudest and belligerent apologists,along with Ray Comfort,Sye Ten Bruggencate,and others....🙄

[@anthonyjames5474]

larannar123 - so you found proof for your fairytale called Evolution? Bring it right here and now and get destroyed

[@anthonyjames5474]

@David Schlessinger - I pay for your fairytale to be taught to kids. Huge difference. Believe what you want. Don't make me pay for it. Quit lying to the kids on my dollar.

[@anthonyjames5474]

@David Schlessinger - Asking for donations or forced compliance hmm...let me think about that one.

[@Ae-oxian]

kent: demonstrate how life can begin from none life ProfD: craig venter demonstrated it by creating synthetic life kent: aha see you need a creator .... facepalm

[@digimikeh]

why facepalm ?... that is true... a creator is needed to combine... ... that is theist evolution.. that experiment could not do anything by itself..

[@Johnboy33545]

The stupidity of theist logic.

[@DorperSystems]

Craig Venter didn't create life from non-life though. He created a synthetic genome. He still needed a cell to "bootstrap" it. It's analogous to saying that introducing a plasmid to a bacteria colony is the same as creating life from non-life. Or like if I wrote a BIOS and claimed I had made a computer.

[@G0lden07]

@@DorperSystems Dude a cell is just a bunch of proteins surrounding genes that tells the proteins what to do. Proteins don't have code. Genes do. All that guy did was synthesis a gene and put it into a protein. He made a new organism. What do you want him to do more than that? Magic?

[@DorperSystems]

@@G0lden07 yeah pretty much

[@gosh_jm]

As a Theistic-Evolutionist, I find this video very interesting. Some young-earthers act like there's only two options. They act like either you are a Christian who agree with their interpretation of genesis, or you are not a Christian at all. There are many positions on this topic.

[@bryanfreeman437]

Macro-evolution is a fraud. If you need more worldly authority to understand then check out Dr Meyer or Dr Tour.

[@crusher1980]

Most Christians dont even really know the Bible that well. The truth is that the Bible says that human history is 6000 years but the Earth was created before, Satan and the angels lived prior to Adam and Eve on this Earth. There are 3 Earths, one that was, one that is and one that will be after Armageddon. The Bible doesnt tell us how long Lucifer and the angels lived here. Also one other thing to consider is that when God created Adam and Eve he created them as adults and the same thing is true with nature (also stars and I dont think Adam and Eve had to wait millions of years to see the light). So it could appear that things are very old but maybe they arent, we cant know. We only know that human history is 6000 years from the Bible. And theistic evolution is an oxymoron. If you believe the true Bible its all about creation and of course devolution aka micro-evolution. Macro-evolution is a religious belief which doesnt work with the Bible.

[@gosh_jm]

@@crusher1980 I dissagree. (if you're interested in learning more about this, I'd recommend InspiringPhilosophy's video "a 900 year old man?") When you study the geneologies in Genesus in their cultural context you'll see that these geneologies are obviously highly symbolic and I'd argue they obviously have gaps in them. Thus, the bible never says that Man's existence is 6,000 years old. Also, The creation of Adam "from dust" is another way of saying that he is mortal. When you look at the biblical culture, saying someone is "of dust" or "of clay" was an idiom for saying that they are mortal. Job even described himself as "formed of clay", but obviously he had human parents. He was making a Theological point. Adam and the animals were made of dust (i.e. they were mortal). God built a sanctuary for Adam (i.e. the Garden of Eden) and put "the tree of life" in there to grant Adam immortality. That's the whole point of the tree of life. Adam is naturally mortal (of dust) but God gave him a supernatural tree. And when God decides to punish Man with death, He kicks Man out of the garden (i.e. He cuts Man's access to the tree of life off). Thus, there is no explicit contradiction between Evolution and Biblical Christianity.

[@bryanfreeman437]

@@crusher1980 OP is wrong but that stuff you are talking about is Kabbalism, not biblical creation.

[@alkaline8608]

but believing in evolution is evidentiarily warranted, and theism is not, so why pollute the waters with unnecessary additions?

[@russellg9622]

This type of content never gets old. I use to see it as just entertainment but I’ve honestly gotten pretty triggered by people who only see evidence of things they WANT to believe in. It’s so backwards I legit get irritated by it now. Unfortunately 😤

[@Science6933]

That is bias and shameful.

[@tsunayoshisawada8062]

Dave: *really clean opening statement with lots of well explained points* Kent: You say that but no, I refuse, it's been proven wrong, but i won't show how.

[@billwoehl3051]

Where's Dave's evidence? Zero, nothing but regurgitation of science books with cartoons.

[@joshuaybanez682]

@@billwoehl3051 idiot

[@joshuaybanez682]

@@billwoehl3051 no ones gonna talk/argue with an idiot

[@billwoehl3051]

@@joshuaybanez682 gee, how original, NOT

[@joshuaybanez682]

@@billwoehl3051 thank you.... consider your self lucky because after all Ignorance is a bliss ;>

[@zanemichelson220]

Dave is getting a first degree murder charge for that opening

[@Puchuchi747]

Glorious

[@alexandrospapadopoulos8598]

I actually disagree! Dave should get so much more! cause he murdered kent and then sodomised the corpse! Re animated him murdered him again and sodomised him AGAIN! DAVE IS BRUTAL!

[@yoseflopez5141]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@emach07]

Haaahaaa!! Indeed

[@whatabouttheearth]

Haha screw it, feed into them. SCIENCE IS THE GREATEST RELIGION EVER!!!! if science is also bullshit than its the greatest bullshit ever freaking made up.

[@sonnig8583]

this debate is so unintentionally funny. between the facial expressions of both debaters after they feel they backed the other into a corner , the moderator totally unengaged staring down at their phone, and the debate itself giving off vibes of a university student arguing with their absent-minded professor or a son arguing with their dad and their dad getting some detached amusement from it. Omg, funniest debate ever 😂

[@bakerchiropractic1065]

We need a loop of Kent saying “water” as a meditation tool

[@steveobhave]

Kent: Here's the Bible which is my science book. PD: OK let's talk about the Bible as a science book. Kent: No I don't want to talk about the Bible.

[@Puchuchi747]

Bwahahahahahha

[@Puchuchi747]

@@iknowyouknowiknow7389 and we worship satan Gtfoh.

[@thatawesomeguy2654]

Kent: I'm not prepared for that

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

David Giralt fuck satan

[@Puchuchi747]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 lol, if he existed, sure. Why not. .... I'm not into men.... but, hes so alluring! (Lol) fuck satan! Suck fatan!

[@koolguy9000]

I appreciate James not moderating at all and just chilling on Tinder or something lol

[@eoinh8425]

Nobody likes too heavy handed a moderator. Them being snippy is fine, and a natural conversation flow is better than timed segments all the time

[@koolguy9000]

@@eoinh8425 true, you still need to moderate, which James did not do. The whole thing could've been done without him, with almost no change....

[@jesusislord7526]

@@koolguy9000 If there wasn’t a moderator then Dave would dominate the majority of time. He has a big ego.

[@theorigamirhino]

Also the Q&A “moderation” consists of “gotcha (insert next question) 🙄

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@theorigamirhino Please report Hovind; he’s not just plain-dumb but outright dangerous. For these people, the reportbutton was originally intended.

[@PositivelyDiverse]

"Hopefully I got that echo fixed" -echo

[@justinh.6683]

Professor Dave, your performance was legendary. Kent Hovind shows supreme ignorance 54:00. Paraphrasing, Kent: "If you can create life from chemicals or whatever and you have all these labs, why haven't you tested it and created life already?" Professor Dave, "[We] did." 😮

[@uhuh.2232]

Kent bovine showed his supreme ignorance everywhere my favorite part is about polyploidy strawberries and Kent just says “oh yeah i know about those, the weird big strawberries that taste awful” hes trying to pretend that he knows whats being talked about but he doesnt realize that ALL strawberries are polyploidy😂😂😂

[@G6Tarantula]

@@uhuh.2232you clearly don’t understand sarcasm💀💀 your Dave infused smugness apparently gets in the way of that along with every other commenter on this video

[@uhuh.2232]

@@G6Tarantula oh yeah? What was he being sarcastic about when he said polyploidy only makes “big hollow strawberries” because im pretty sure you dont know what polyploidy means thats why you think he was being sarcastic instead of just being wrong. ALL strawberries are polyploidy, if you think he knew that and was “just being sarcastic” then youre just soft admitting he was creating a strawman

[@notimeforsleep9581]

Doing a surgery by transplanting one thing to another is not making new life. That’s like saying the new flu variation is a brand new diseases when in reality it’s still a flu

[@OfficialDenzy]

They didn't create life from just chemicals but already living organisms.

[@tkal17]

"Its not an error to call a whale a fish" Kent Hovind, 2020

[@austinballard3818]

Depends on if your using scientific categories or a more antiquated traditional categories. Scientifically...yea that's an error lol. But as far as animals that look like fish and behave like fish and swim in the water ... Then it could be considered a fish.

[@PahEz]

It is literally a fish.

[@JoeHarkinsHimself]

@@PahEz actually, all whales are mammals. Their DNA is that of a mammal. They live and procreative as mammals. with all the characteristics of a mammals such as they breathe air, procreate using penile penetration into a vagina and implant sperm, have live birth, nurture the new-born with milk, etc. There are creatures called the whale shark that is a fish. And it is truly a shark. the word "whale" is commonly used only because they are as big as a whale. But unlike what most people think about a shark, it eats plankton that it harvests by "vacuuming" the water it swims in through its huge open mouth.

[@rockman00]

​@@PahEz this man cant tell the difference btw a mammal and a fish

[@PahEz]

@@JoeHarkinsHimself False, anything that *lives* under water is in the fish category.

[@VioletVile]

I am convinced that there is not a single person who has been fed more correct information about evolution and still completely misstate it every single time quite like Kent.

[@badideass]

When your money depends on your uneducated followers...

[@fossilfishleg9188]

Yea Kent’s the best at being “wilfully ignorant”. He refuses to learn anything.

[@badideass]

@@fossilfishleg9188 I would play stupid too if my income depended on uneducated people

[@peterwyetzner5276]

@@badideass You know, I bet you wouldn't.

[@badideass]

@@peterwyetzner5276 yeah I have a better moral compass than that

[@jdholwick]

Really enjoyed this debate! A couple of comments: Kent Hovind would find himself more respectable if he wouldn’t try to be so slippery. This was clearly deliberate, and Professor Dave did everything in his power to nail him down, but that is hard to do when someone doesn’t want to face the reality of their own arguments, and Hovind clearly did not want to get to the logical conclusions of his arguments because they wouldn’t have supported his ideas. Professor Dave has integrity, but I can’t say the same for Hovind. I appreciated James’ moderation as well! I know this one was tough to control. 👍

[@SpecRec]

That is because Hovind is a conman. Slippery as a pig covered in oil.

[@_I__AM__GOD_]

Lol Dave didnt have a single good point, Kent Mopped the Floor with that clown.

[@lukemarshall-sully9196]

@@_I__AM__GOD_ someone didn't watch the vid. Kent clearly doesn't even understand basic science and is a hypocrite. Open your eyes

[@Wow91163]

@@_I__AM__GOD_ Do you understand logic or reason on any level or are you just as empty headed as Kent is?

[@jbangz2023]

The real proof Dave needs to provide for evolution is that one species must evolved into something different, amoeba turn into a dog.

[@MainAccount0102]

I think a good explanation for something turning into something far different, after a very long time and through countless processes, is a collection of paints turning into a piece of artwork after countless brush strokes. EDIT: Kent mischaracterizes the overall process by saying that evolutionists believe that paints just TURNED INTO a painting.

[@notmyname1799]

Dave: Kent has no idea what he's talking about. His only argument is "Some book says a thing." Kent: Some book says a thing.

[@mihaicolceriu-nicola7148]

yes! that pretty much aplies to every believer lol

[@notmyname1799]

@Chris Yunge Holy wall of text, Batman! Straw Man; "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." Talk about irony... You have no idea what books I've read or haven't read. Yet you form your whole argument upon it. You have no idea what I am, and an not afraid of. Yet you say my fear is causing me to ignore things. You have no positive evidence. Yet you "blame" me for a court ruling that happened before my time. You have no idea of my marital status. Yet you use marriage as an argument against me. You have no idea of my political ideals. Yet you bring it up in defense of Kent. I feel like I missed one or two, but there was just so much wrong with your post. Think about my actual argument, and then try again if you wish.

[@notmyname1799]

@Chris Yunge "Such labored nothings, in so strange a style, Amaze th' unlearned, and make the learned smile." I think we're done here.

[@notmyname1799]

@Chris Yunge Not true. You made numerous assertions all based on your assumptions of me, and then argued against them. Text book straw man.

[@notmyname1799]

@Chris Yunge Sorry if my desire for online anonymity bothers you, but identification changes nothing in this context. Why waste my time? Beginning to wonder the same.

[@rudolphriedel541]

Why is anyone still "debating" Kent Hovind? He said all he is saying today 20 years ago and keeps repeating himself. And no matter how many times he has been corrected, he does not learn.

[@markwood1159]

Worse still is that these "debates" are his bread and butter. It's the only reason he still has a following. It's why he shamelessly allows himself to be thoroughly humiliated, time after time--he knows it gets the attention of the already-brainwashed, and they'll never acknowledge what a lying shitbag he is, despite it being demonstrated hundreds of times. I confess, though, that I'm part of the problem. I must be a bit of a masochist; I watch these shitshows every time. What the hell is wrong with me?

[@SandShark350]

@@markwood1159 theoretical question. Will you admit you were fooled if when you die you end up in front of Jesus and he tells you you were deceived about all of this?

[@rudolphriedel541]

@@markwood1159 If a creator reveils herself we should sue her for sloppy craftmanship. And if I die and find myself in heaven standing before Jesus I may ask him why he has not done anything for humanity in the past 2000 years. And I am pretty sure that Kent Hovind will not be around.

[@deanlowdon8381]

Elijah Laub If I find myself standing before God when I die he’s going to have a lot to answer for. I’d probably start by asking him why he allows babies in Africa to die of aids...

[@markwood1159]

@@SandShark350 That is a ridiculous question. Obviously, if such strong evidence were (finally) provided, I'd probably have to concede that I was wrong. So what? Why won't he provide such evidence _while I"m alive?_ I'm guessing that you're going for some variation on Pascal's Wager here. So to head off this stupid argument, let me ask you the same question; except, replace "Jesus" with "Allah" or any other deity you've decided isn't real. While you're thinking about that, think about the method you used to determine that _every other deity_ is not real. I'm sure it must be more than, "Mommy and Daddy and my pastor and this old book all say Jesus is the one, true god, and even though lots of other religions say the same thing about their deities, I believe what I was taught and _have faith_ (but not _evidence_ ) that it's true."

[@shanemccausland958]

Omg this debate was so hillarious

[@filthycasual6118]

Kent never fails to trot out the same desiccated horse. Technical difficulties and "pause the timer" included. A truly remarkable human being.

[@eduardopena5893]

Because Dave kept interrupting him.

[@wavingbuddy3535]

Imagine if the moderator actually moderated and made it so Kent had to answer questions presented to him rather than avoid them

[@Bethany0420]

I don't like this moderator. he just sits there and allows this to happen alot.

[@j-rod166]

He's playing tic-tac-toe

[@rileybow8030]

imagine if he stopped a debater after he called his opponent a pedo

[@paologeminiani]

Evolution is the greates scam for gullible people. This guy Dave beliefs that amoeba turned into humans, I guess too much school turns people into fools.

[@iambuhlockay8007]

Exactly. Kent uses the Bible as evidence for his claims, so when Dave had verses from the Bible to prove it wasn’t scientifically accurate, that should’ve been allowed.

[@randomatheist167]

Dave said that Kent didn't understand anything. Kent proved that claim by opening his mouth and speaking.

[@JavierSanchez-dq8ie]

Says the one who believes we evolved from a puddle by accident, and before you accuse me of being a con-man, your own scientists believe the same thing as stated here: www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-did-life-begin1/ We have never seen non-living material create a living organism. Even if some scientist did somehow created a living organism out of non living material, it would only prove that you need intelligence to create life.

[@mooneychan]

@@JavierSanchez-dq8ie evolution doesn't say anything about the creation of the first cell. Evolution covers how life evolves filtered by natural selection.

[@insciencewetrust1183]

@J Gio Sanchez Please learn the difference between evolution and abiogenesis.

[@JavierSanchez-dq8ie]

@@insciencewetrust1183 Tell me a sentence where I said or implied that abiogenesis was evolution...

[@insciencewetrust1183]

@J Gio Sanchez “We have never seen non-living material create a living organisms”. That deals with the origin of life/abiogenesis not evolution. Evolution does not say anything about the creation of the first cell.

[@JeffreyIsbell]

It just occurred to me that Kent should go on Dancing With The Stars …that’s some energetic tap dancing he’s doing.

[@marksanford8237]

2024, Kent's case still hasn't neen overturned.

[@antarcticdissuasionforce2625]

Dave: This is what Kent will deny... Kent: Denies everything

[@anthonycaserta9852]

Yeah cause we came from rocks after it rained for millions of years after the forming of earth and it rained after being dry for millions of years..and forming just in the Goldilocks zone..it takes way more faith to believe in evolution all things considered

[@user-em4rk4qo1f]

@@anthonycaserta9852 You don't understand chemistry. It's obviously not as simple as you make it out to be.

[@Trev359]

Creation is the biggest fairy tale. It's from a big book of fairy tales known as the bible.

[@TLO129]

@@anthonycaserta9852 No. Zero evolutionary biologists say we came from a rock, zero, none. That is a lie, and you swallowed that lie. If you are making a cake and trow the ingrediants in a glass bowl and mix, does that mean all your ingredients are glass? No! No one thinks we came from a rock, I've never heard anyone say that except for creationists, it's your problem, not ours, it's your error, not mine, so correct your error.

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

TLO the textbooks in schools teach we Came from a rock even “ sciman” Dan admitted to this

[@renatovieira4472]

Dave's huge effort is the reason why you should NEVER debate with someone who has zero knowledge about the matter. Although i applaude Dave's patience, really, in the end we all should face the fact some people like Kent Hovind are just plain stupid.

[@peruviandude8258]

Appeal to authority.

[@atheisth5066]

@@peruviandude8258 what🤣 he didnt even mention degrees he just said Kent doesnt have any understanding of evolution.

[@assburgers1]

@@peruviandude8258 The fallacy fallacy...

[@user-ns8si5tg7k]

@@peruviandude8258 They believe evolution lol.. its so funny.. they profess themselves to be wise , but only a fool says There is no God.

[@stpaul0859]

@@user-ns8si5tg7k imagine watching this debate and agreeing with Kent

[@patrickrutherford5553]

Kent makes perfect sense . The fact that most people in this comment section are rallying for Dave and against Kent goes to show the collective truth of exactly what the Bible says : Broad is the way to destruction , but narrow is the path to life and few are they that find it

[@Conan-Le-Cimmerien]

Or it shows that Kent is wrong and there are people who know science. But you don't like that perspective

[@JustMe-wo8lg]

So in times past when practically everybody was religious, the bible was wrong because too many people believed in it and then later when more and more people couldn't believe in nonsense any longer, the bible became true? Am I understanding the implications of your argument correctly?

[@patrickrutherford5553]

@@JustMe-wo8lg never before on recorded history has it been true that everyone was religious. Even in the Bible , we clearly see that SOME believed and others did not. Even in Jesus christs time , the majority of people did not recognize him as who he claimed to be. If the majority of mankind believed, the power balance would have been able to fight against the powers that were to keep Jesus off the cross. Those that seek God earnestly have their spiritual eyes opened by God to be able to perceive the truth .

[@patrickrutherford5553]

@@Conan-Le-Cimmerien I never heard one scientific thing from Dave in this video . He couldn’t even follow a very simple logic trail from how a Protozoa became another kind of thing at some point to produce all various kinds of life -

[@Conan-Le-Cimmerien]

@@patrickrutherford5553 If you still use kind even though it literally means nothing then no wonder you are incorrect about evolution

[@QuizWhizz]

I believe the only way to stop this nonsense is to ignore these people. Belief systems like this are getting more diluted with every generation. That's a perfect world scenario though. It's just too tempting to click on these videos . They're really entertaining

[@charlesferren9159]

Creationist: It is insane to believe that a singularity just happened to be there to create everything. Also Creationist: A creator just happened to be there to create everything.

[@roby.3428]

Fucking right. You can't have your cake and eat it too folks.

[@roby.3428]

@Isaiah Morrow doesn't matter.

[@peter3020]

@Isaiah Morrow immagination can be powerful indeed. But I prefer to stay logical and believe the evidence provided for evolution.

[@vesas5214]

Same creationist: It's insane that atheists believe we came from a rock. Also the same creationist: We came from dust.

[@sunkid02]

@@roby.3428 i was just saying this shit the other day watching an aron ra video

[@meetthefloccers8112]

This is why real professors should not debate con men.

[@XILikeTrainsX]

Fact: Snow Flakes DOES NOT form spontaneously. It's a multitude of factors which can be humidity, velocity, temperature (obviously).. There is a isolated experiment that predicts the form of a snowflake perfectly that you can also design by changing one of the factors a certain way. They are unique because each one falls to different conditions like wind, duration, etc. Other than that I agree mostly with Dave.

[@polygondeath2361]

Interesting, do you have the name of a paper that reports this? I do want to read up on this and can't find it on google scholar lol

[@davidgardner863]

I would like to see Kent’s chart starting with the “kinds” from the ark and and becoming the millions of species in the world today.

[@anthonyfernandez5016]

This gotta be one of the slowest comments I've read. So you're asking Kent to show you a chart proving evolution that he claims it's not real 🤣 make it make sense

[@davidgardner863]

@@anthonyfernandez5016, Well, if one “kind” of feline for example, suddenly turned into 38 species of cats when they stepped off the ark, not to mention the dozens of extinct ones, there should be a chart showing how they split off. And how would this not be super hyper evolution?

[@anthonyfernandez5016]

@@davidgardner863 You're still not saying anything that goes against Kent's point of view. I saw one of the top comments that said jokingly the video is broken because Kent keeps repeating the same thing. The reason he kept repeating the same thing is because a lot of you are like under a hypnosis or something similar to that where you can't even hear yourselves talking and what you're saying. You literally said 1 species of cat turning into 38 different species of cat DOES NOT prove evolution. IT IS STILL FELINE . Doesn't matter if it's a Puma , a tiger or you house cat. cats are still producing cats from back then until now. Is the same thing Dave tried to do. He tried to use strawberries as an example and failed miserably because strawberry came from a different species of STRAWBERRY. it didn't go from being strawberry to coconut. I just tried correcting Dave in his channel earlier on his video against James Tour and you know what he did? .

[@anthonyfernandez5016]

@@davidgardner863 He called me a brainwashed piece of shit and a piece of twat. Beautiful vocabulary for an intellectual science teacher.

[@anthonyfernandez5016]

@@davidgardner863 You should check that debate between him and James Tour he got DESTROYED. All he did was throw tantrums and insult everyone including the crowd who was present. Dave is just a narcissist who wants to be right All the time and these are the people who you call teachers. I'm that video with James Tour you can see his narcissistic traits mostly gas lighting where he starts throwing his tantrums until he gets James out of character then starts saying James is the one throwing tantrums.

[@EdRyanGuitar]

"if you're mom ate a pizza are you made of pizza?" Dying. 🤣🤣🤣

[@EdRyanGuitar]

@@dingdongism 3 years later, I get a response to my comment.

[@guiltystress509]

"are you made from pizza, are you a pizza, Kent?" - Professor Dave

[@Black-Circle]

@@guiltystress509 prof dave is a clown. Clowns believe in his fake evidence

[@akapanda5962]

@@Black-Circle anyone who thinks kent is correct is delusional

[@Black-Circle]

@@akapanda5962 like using fake evidence

[@Zeresrail]

Seriously, stop bringing Kent on. Enough is enough. He does not debate honestly (nor debate at all since he his not willing to defend his own position). He talks over his oppenent, ridicules him, and refuses to answer questions. Stop. Having. Him. On. You want him on? Play a recording of him. Its the same thing. Seriously, this is like bringing a kid to debate resproductive systems and the kid screaming he doesnt understand it and its stupid therefore the stork brings children to the world.

[@Lewshus]

Agreed. He's a parroting douche.

[@AvNotasian]

Hey I like the court jester, its fun watching him getting his ass handed to him in real time.

[@trueblaze84]

debating Ken is like fighting Wimp Lo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmecZ6dprqZ_d7s

[@Zeresrail]

@@TrevorWeissman Creation vs Reality. Only because that subject simply is more interesting to me. Flat earthers and creationists share a large slice of the Venn diagram of reality denial, dunning kruger.

[@lauroneto3360]

But the same misconceptions regarding evolution is brought by the other side. Like homology, like the origin of Life, like the power of darwinian mecanism to explain all life's complexity. And on. Both sides are stuck with their arguments.

[@timhallas4275]

My favorite Creationist comment is when they insult science by calling it a religion. Even they know it is an insult to call anything a religion.

[@justinsevers329]

Probably went over your head but when people say that they are pointing out hypocrisy

[@victorvargas6111]

Me Kent won the debate in the moment Dave said life had been produced...then it turns out that it wasn't true.

[@eriknelson9490]

A room full of people EMPLOYED by Kent all agreed that Kent isn't in it for the money. Unabashed grifting of the highest order. This guy is a complete crook

[@Programm4r]

They are volunteers.

[@r.i.p.volodya]

@@Programm4r Of course they are! That's how stupidity conducts itself! They are enablers for an idiot! Think Trump and his followers!

[@stevenalexander7309]

"You can't know evolution happened because you were not there at the dawn of time." So Kent, you were there when your God created the world?

[@islandonlinenews]

David Minerley God was there...

[@thomsonandfrench4974]

Too bad we don't have his confirmed account on what happened.

[@islandonlinenews]

sume dokin yes we do.

[@thomsonandfrench4974]

@@islandonlinenews Oh, you are referring to the Quran right? Or the mahabharata? Or enuma elis?

[@islandonlinenews]

sume dokin is that what you believe I am referring too?

[@scumbaggery]

I think kent genujnly believes evolution means one day ypure a rock and rhe next day your a human. Theres zero chance hes not trolling

[@chrisignacio8422]

Something’s wrong with the upper right hand corner of this video.

[@TheShyOne]

Kent: "you're evading the question" Dave: "Evolution does not require for new kinds to occur, they will always be within that kind. So you're either wrong, or you're not contradicting evolution." Kent: *Immediately asks the moderator to jump in cause "Dave is trying to monopolize half the time"*

[@benghazi431]

Cute pic.

[@TheOnlyFoxYouNeed]

yup. he reeeeeeeally loves to whine about not getting 50/50 time in a piss poor attempt to cover the fact that he can't honestly answer questions.

[@Myeeers]

Teague Prower I wanted to hear more on the topic of matter not being able to produce rational intelligibility. Seems like a huge gap in the evolutionary theory.

[@benghazi431]

@@Myeeers Kent can't even argue against flat earth so don't expect philosophical nuance from him and you should look up why Lennox isn't respected for that argument.

[@Myeeers]

Benghazi! Yeah I love me some Lennox. He’s so down to earth and humble, and he knows what he’s talking about.

[@SteveSmith-hm8ny]

Dear moderator, Please MODERATE!

[@thephoenixempyre2300]

This moderator sucks

[@jy-op6cs]

@@TheJimtanker you missed and shits on the board

[@donthephoneman7084]

“The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God”

[@zigongosaurus5274]

"The fool hath said in his heart, there is no Spongebob." - Book of Spongebob Chapter 4 Verse 17

[@Mihajlo-vr8ih]

ok i am stealing that@@zigongosaurus5274

[@j_blackbird]

Kent: "Dave you believe in magic" Also Kent: Believes that an all powerful invisible genie whished everything into existance 🤯

[@joelstewart7344]

NTL, snob scientist, Dave, has no explanation for the creation and maintenance of the myriad laws that make the universe possible. If you like to think that came about via a magical genie, have at at, but, NTL, you and Disgustingly Arrogant Dave are clueless about that!

[@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821]

Tell me you sre ignorant without telling me you are ignorant. If thats what you reduce God to its clear you arent very versed in this topic

[@hughmongous5089]

@@caughtinthevoidfloyd5821 what else is it then? Did God have a workshop where he sat around soldering, drilling, possibly welding the universe together? Or is he described as some timeless, space less (as if that makes sense) being that willed the universe into existence?

[@thiagoemanuel8607]

You're doing to God the exact thing that Hovind does to the big bang.

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

Genies are created beings, God is the creator of the universe.

[@thechief5670]

To save time Kent denies everything Dave says and doesn’t wanna get into his beliefs and won’t let Dave go near the Bible.

[@brandonwilson7655]

Kent is a smug and stupid person. SMH.

[@jonny46ba]

@Imposter Gaming waaatar

[@SteveMasslock]

I'm not a Kent fan, but as a christian Kent was correct not to discuss scripture with a non believer soley to Mock God's word. That is not a productive way to debate evolution.

[@kvazac4432]

@@SteveMasslock yea, if kent wasn't to bring bible into this debate it would be over in less than 20 minutes

[@elijahyoung11]

@@kvazac4432 😂

[@LonesomeTroubadour]

When Kent said:"I don't understand". it was about the only honest thing he uttered in the debate.

[@michaelbragg8763]

Dave just can not listen, he must dominate the conversation.

[@vladtheemailer3223]

Kent is an idiot.

[@dimitrishow_D]

Still we could make a game that starts with certain elements that can evolve...so that would be a creation that then evolves

[@louieboyd2791]

I don't know why he gets screen time anymore, he's so disingenuous

[@jeksol]

It's always funny when an ex convict accuses somebody of criminal behavior.

[@SandShark350]

Not everyone advised of a crime is guilty of said crime.

[@RanEncounter]

@David Anewman Your tribalism makes you blind to even criminals. You are in a cult.

[@Tornadopelt]

@David Anewman "Being convicted of a crime made to identify racketeers, drug dealers and terrorists doesn't make one a criminal." It does when you're knowingly trying to defraud the federal government through structuring cash transactions to avoid reporting requirements and paying employees in cash so as to avoid having to withhold taxes from employees, and making your reasoning "The Bible says 'render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's', not 'render unto Fed that which is Caesar's'", when "render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's" means "pay your fucking taxes". Kent Hovind committed a crime, and he was convicted of it. By definition, he is a criminal. Asserting that being convicted of a crime made to identify racketeers, drug dealers and terrorists doesn't make one a criminal, despite the fact that being convicted of a crime that you knowingly committed makes you a criminal by definition, is special pleading. "The only criminals in this case were the atheist prosecutors and judges and anyone who helped to convict Kent of this law." And now we get to add an ad hominem onto your fallacy count. You are attacking the "prosecutors and judges and anyone who helped to convict Kent of structuring, failing to pay employment withholding taxes, and obstructing the IRS" by claiming they are criminals because they convicted Kent Hovind of a crime that he knowingly committed, and not at all looking at why they convicted him of the crime in the first place. Fallacy Count: 2.

[@RanEncounter]

@David Anewman So how am I a criminal? You cannot accept the fact that Kent is a criminal and a fraud. He preys on people like you.

[@RanEncounter]

@David Anewman "You are a criminal..." What God? "We are not." So anything you do does not make you a criminal in the eyes of your God? Even if it is fraud and lying? "You will.." A baseless assertion. "If you were not..." But I am not a criminal. Why would your God sent innosent people to burn in the Lake of fire? Sounds like an immoral God to me.

[@acatwood11]

Let's focus on what's most important. The fact that Val Kilmer was a better Batman than most people remember.

[@MotivateHouse]

The moderator just got 2 sperg lords into a voice call and said "have at it kids" while he played on his phone for hour and a half

[@natew.7951]

Kent got destroyed. This is one of the best. Kent is so dishonest that it takes someone with an attitude like Professor Dave to call him out. Great job!

[@fossilfishleg9188]

Aron Ra absolutely obliterated every argument Hovind has. I expect men in white coats to come and take him away sometime.

[@klumaverik]

@@fossilfishleg9188 bruh AronRa was a fact spewing beast rising from the depths of logic and scientific observation. Lol

[@lloydchristmas4547]

@@fossilfishleg9188 I prefer the Feds.

[@AvNotasian]

@@fossilfishleg9188 Aron Ra was a roasting where kent was shown to be ignorant and his definition of Kinds useless. This was like every misrepresentation got corrected instantly and a reducto ad absurdum tossed in to force Kent to either lie or demolish his own argument. I liked Aron Ras debate, but this one kent couldn't even manage to set up a platform to stand on.

[@kinglyzard]

I have to disagree. Kent had Dave on the ropes several times. He's wrong about everything, but Kent Hovind is so slick he could sell shit at a wedding.

[@Vindsus86]

My favourite Kent Hovind moment was when he, in a debate with Hugo and Jake (I think) exclaimed that he wasn't related to them (to argue against common ancestry probably) only to be reminded of Adam and Eve. That was funny. He's so dishonest.

[@Spolt_main]

@@ziphos it's around the hour mark

[@holtikultura911]

18:21 vs 1:45:21

[@Eltravieso71198]

Ad hominem is bad in debates, but when Prof. Dave attacks Hovind, well......worth it!

[@addisonhaddock7367]

I really really wish I would’ve seen videos like this when I was younger and still a Christian. I would’ve become an atheist so much faster. Thank you Professor Dave for fighting back against creationists and having so much patience.

[@mayalackman7581]

Why? It's totally possible to be a Christian and believe in Old Earth and Evolution.

[@patchwurk6652]

@@mayalackman7581 While that's technically true, that's not really the issue. Kent Hovind as a human being is Ground Zero for everything wrong with organized religion. He's dogmatic, openly hostile to anyone who doesn't submit to his beliefs, will shame and demean and be horrible to anyone he deems a heathen, has the biggest victim/martyr complex imaginable, and his entire life is a standing refutation to everything he proports to believe in. Every negative things that is typically stated about organized Christianity, Kent Hovind Is. On top of that, he has one more blatant thing about him: He's a con artist. Hovind doesn't believe a single word of what he says, but he makes Gooood money off suckers for sticking to it no matter what. There's a reason Kent's arguments have never changed in decades, because the people he's scamming are not people who think too hard. He's not trying to convince anyone in these debates, he's just reinforcing the indoctrination on his own personal cult who are almost always in attendance with him behind the camera. This same man also got arrested for dozens of confirmed accounts of tax fraud, where his only defense in court was "All my money goes to the Ministry".... He's referring to Himself as his ministry, arguing that He, Kent Hovind specifically, should be tax-exempt by default because he calls his wallet a ministry. Kent Hovind doesn't turn people away from Christianity because he's a creationist. He turns people away because he's the worst possible representative for Christianity, makes Christianity look like an embarrassing joke every time he speaks, and for some inexplicable reason Christianity doesn't really say or do anything as an organized entity to deter him....Which is effectively tacit tolerance of this man wiping his ass with your faith on your behalf.

[@dr_ned_flanders]

@@patchwurk6652 I wish I could thumb this up more than once.

[@antonioguglielmetti2661]

Denominational Christians ruin Christianity. Jesus's biggest enemies were the false religious representatives because they turn people away from the truth.

[@DarthVaderfr]

​@@mayalackman7581not only is it possible, it's common😂, but kent Hovind is the best atheist producer

[@JohnWickPresents]

For the love of Discordia, will someone please stop allowing Kent to control the conversation so he’s always asking the questions and talking over the answers. You can count on one hand how many questions Kent answered.

[@fatman957]

Thank you!!!! When he doesn't want to or cant answer a question he will just simply ask a question.

[@fatman957]

@ichew gum yes its true But that's not the point, the point is that Kent always answers a question with a question. And its always the same three questions. He also always changes the subject the when he gets stuck he says that's not what the topic of the debate is when he is the one who brought something up. He didn't even want to talk about the Bible and that's supposed to be his thing. Lets not even get into predictions. When someone asks what predictions his model has ever made he always makes a prediction that already come to pass or he predicts that someday you will die and stand before god. Also Aaron interrupts Kent because he knows what Kent is doing and he even admitted it.

[@captainobvious8558]

@@fatman957 In an informal conversational debate, like Ra's, it is extremely refreshing to see someone get cutoff when they begin to obfuscate or lie. For example, whenever a debater tells his opponent what the opponent thinks, he should IMMEDIATELY be cutoff. You don't get to tell me what I think and then gish gallop until its forgotten.

[@fatman957]

@ichew gum if you don't see what im saying about Kent watch more off Kent's debates and you'll see a pattern. Im not making this up, and i never said you were a Christian. And i agree Pro. Dave was a horrible debater to many personal attacks. But i was talking about Kent and you never disputed anything i said you simply said i don't see it and went to talk about Pro. Dave and his "indoctrination". Kent is way more experienced at debating so he knows what he's doing.

[@fatman957]

@ichew gum in a debate when someone ask you a question and you feell that the question is not valid and only presumes their own position is right you challenge them on that question. You don't dodge the question by asking a completely irrelevant question. Especially one that has been answered over and over again. As far as the bible not being the topic. Kent uses the bible to substantiate his claims but when he's challenged on that he doesn't want to talk about it. Kent is so full of shit. I don't know if creationist are right because i wasn't there no more than i know evolution is correct because I've never studied it for myself but i do know a bullshit artist when i see one.

[@Nathannbo]

Y’all need to stop platforming hovind. He doesn’t debate, he just yells his points without understanding the other persons point

[@leludragonfly7436]

1:00:20 - 1:01:30 Made me laugh way too hard!

[@marcolorenti9637]

That opening by Dave was the most savage overkill I've ever seen. Merciless.

[@eliwoodthegoothoonter538]

Absolute fucking murder. When your opponent gives your rebuttal for you in their opener, you quit right then

[@user-uy6mk3xh2f]

Yeah he lost after the opener, he actually got personal.

[@Eth_arnold]

And yet Kent still bounced back and returned the favor 💯

[@matthewjackson337]

@@Eth_arnold what are you talking about

[@scotto.4832]

@@Eth_arnold I agree with you Arnaldo, a Creator (God) is NECESSARY for a mechanically-ordered universe. A random big bang has no validity. A God is more likely!

[@melaniegertenbachcalitz6684]

This has to be one of the most despicable human beings that has ever lived ... Hovind that is

[@tylerb9877]

He's despicable because he disagrees with you?

[@rembrandt972ify]

@@tylerb9877 No, he's despicable because he's a convicted felon and he lies to children.

[@tylerb9877]

@Rembrandt972 Kent Hovind is innocent of those charges. And even if he was guilty, you have to remember that he was charged with "structuring money." It's not like he murdered anyone.

[@rembrandt972ify]

@@tylerb9877 He was innocent of all 58 charges? How do you know? Was his conviction due to a massive God-hating conspiracy? Are you on crack?

[@tylerb9877]

@Rembrandt972 The government broke dozens of laws in order to convict him. You can research the facts on your own.

[@FuneFox]

I like how most of the creationist comments can be answered by a timestamp to a part of Dave's opening.

[@aggabus]

27:40 is

[@eldons1518]

I understand why Kent is so reluctant to understand anything and so passionate to debunk evolution. He never evolved beyond an amoeba himself.

[@RanEncounter]

@Mister Privacy What are you even talking about? So putting lies to other peoples mouths is the only way for you to dismiss their claims? Ridiculous.

[@dhementor]

i'm thankful for Kent though. if he didn't exist, i would have thought that i'm a mess and i'm stupid. but having him around makes me feel better about myself.

[@djokadjokovic7771]

We are not descended from Adam and Eve, nor do we have a common ancestor with the ape , the ancient aliens created ours .

[@MrGodofcar]

@@djokadjokovic7771 prove it

[@patchwurk6652]

@@MrGodofcar Prove it did happen. You seem to have forgotten than Creationism has yet to actually Prove itself. If I say "I have an invisible dragon in my backyard" you saying "No you don't" doesn't require you to Prove I don't have my magic dragon IF IVE NEVER ACTUALLY PROVEN I HAVE ONE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Now show me your magical dragon please.

[@MrGodofcar]

@@patchwurk6652 Evolution is not true because macroevolution has never been observed and mutations never add information enough to cause macroevolution.

[@patchwurk6652]

@@MrGodofcar "Evolution is not true because macroevolution has never been observed and mutations never add information enough to cause macroevolution." Well let's unpack this sentence: Evolution is not true because macroevolution hasn't been observed? 1: If something being unobserved inherently makes it untrue, then by your own logic Creationism and your own God is false "because it hasn't been observed." No one on the face of this Earth has ever seen something just spontaneously created, and no one on this Earth can Prove they have ever seen God, therefore By Your Own Logic, your own position is not real. 2: There is no such thing as "micro" and "macro" evolution. There is just Evolution. The distinction that you're trying to make is not one the scientific community makes at all. And why would they? The only difference between one and the other is timescale. If you can accept that "small changes happen biologically in a small period of time" (i.e. 1 or 2 generations), then it shouldn't be even remotely hard for you to accept that "Large changes happen biologically over exponentially Larger periods of time". That's literally all "macro" evolution is: a massive pile of "micro" evolutions over the course of extreme amounts of generations. You're making a distinction that doesn't even exist, unless you count "More time" as a difference. 3: You're just flat out wrong on mutations. If you were correct, then Viruses shouldn't be even remotely the problem they are, "micro" evolution itself shouldn't even happen, and there should be absolutely no biological deviations of any kind at all within a species. Care to define what "information" even is in the way you're using the term? Because if mutations do not create "new information", then how the hell do all the breeds of dog exist? Why are they not just Wolves, Only wolves, without fail? A Chihuahua is vastly different biologically from a wolf, it's "information" is not the same, and yet there it is, a chihuahua, hundreds of generations later from a wolf.

[@carlospolo3979]

If there is no God, no problem. But if there is a Creator, we'll meet Him sooner than later.

[@Big-Papa-Smurf]

When does a species become another species("What new information is added")? It happens when a species' descendants collect a variable number of environmentally advantageous mutations(new information) to the point where they are no longer reproductively viable with their ancestral/parent species. Imagine all the freshwater on the planet disappeared. Most people would die, but let's say one person, Fred, had a mutation that made his liver slightly better at filtering sodium. This meant that Fred could drink a whole pint of saltwater a day and survive. Fred had a son named Bob. Bob inherited the same mutation from his father, but it was more pronounced. Bob's liver could filter out even more salt without making him sick. Bob had a son named John. John inherited both of his father's mutations: the liver mutation and the mutation that made his body unable to absorb sodium through the digestive system. This meant that John needed to drink saltwater to survive. Over many generations, Fred's descendants continued to accumulate mutations that made them better adapted to their saltwater environment. Eventually, one of Fred's distant descendants, Kelly, had a liver that could filter out almost all of the salt from saltwater. She could drink a whole 2 gallons of saltwater a day without any negative effects. Because of the genetic differences between Kelly and her ancestors and the rest of the human species, they were no longer able to reproduce. At that point, we would classify Kelly and her descendants as a new species. This is how evolution works. Over time, small genetic changes can accumulate and lead to the formation of new species.

[@Shane_The_Confessor]

Fred reproduced with himself? Also, define slightly better because drinking saltwater will just kill you unless youre a fish.

[@joseph-thewatcher]

Kent accusing Dave of an ad hominem attack is ironic. Kent opens the debate with nothing but ad hominem attacks.

[@johngood9877]

This guy believes he came from a strawberry. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA.

[@johngood9877]

I find it funny how Dave is throwing dirt while Kent is gone XD Dave is obviously trying to discredit Kent by using insults. In the end, Dave can't connect the dots because he is blinded by evolution "Other scientists say it's true, that means it must be true and everyone who says otherwise is dumb!" I feel bad for Kent because he has to put up with this dudes arrogance and ignorance.

[@badapjiedkylla1899]

Are you blind bro.. dave ia the one opening the debate with ad hominem attack..

[@joseph-thewatcher]

@@johngood9877 Are you suggesting that we should build our world view around a series of fantasy books written mainly by anonymous authors from antiquity? Are you also suggesting that humans can't learn anything through scientific research and discoveries about the universe in which we live? The bible promotes gullibility and discourages skeptical inquiry and the seeking of knowledge. The more we learn about our world the less reliable the bible is and the fewer places the god of the gaps can hide.

[@CrazyRandomLord]

His very opening sentence was calling him a child abuser for explaining homology

[@jagheterbanan]

I’ve met children more mature than Kent, this is ridiculous he obviously doesn’t want to understand.

[@jonovens7974]

His income depends on lying his ass off - he understands perfectly. Watch enough of his crap and you notice the times when he fucks up and says something that's actually true. Then the next time he makes sure he doesn't make the same mistake.

[@peter3020]

Ow he knows he is full of ****

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@peter3020 Please BE the 180-Degree-Opposite of Cancel-Culture and be helpful by flagging K.H...

[@theitguy2731]

@@jonovens7974 could you give me some examples?

[@patchwurk6652]

@@theitguy2731 I mean look at his debates. Kent has been corrected over, and over, and over again on scores of misconceptions. Every single time he debates an evolution person, he's corrected Again on the fact that evolution doesn't claim nothing created everything and that abiogenesis has nothing whatsoever to do with evolution. And yet Kent continues onward, dishonestly claiming they do not only in the Same conversation as if the evolutionist never spoke, in his Next debate he's mischaracterizing the evolutionist just like the previous one as if no one's ever corrected him. Same with Atheists, no matter how many times he's corrected, he ignores anything and everything that deviates from his script. He's Paid by his congregation to be willfully ignorant, so he remains willfully ignorant no matter how many years of debates he attends.

[@renatopinheiro8209]

It’s very difficult to discuss science with someone like this Kent guy.

[@russellg9622]

I don’t think Dave is really trying to, he confronts a lot of backwards thinking people. I think he is just trying to expose people that denounce science that has been well established already because it pushes people away from thinking freely.

[@Lastinterceptor]

very easy to discuss science with someone who has bachelor degree and is a KZbinr....

[@dancatchem3813]

science is not an idea, belief or concept, its a method. anything that is dubbed science that can not be verified with the scientific method is pseudoscience. i.e. evolution. get mad.

[@LiaGridley]

I was hoping for a ken hamm debate or bruce malonee! That would be very interesting! I would pay for that

[@mrmonster3434]

Where is the moderator in all this? Hovind's rhetoric is disgusting.

[@kinglyzard]

Moderator? I thought that was a mannequin.

[@ColonelEmpire]

Dr. Hovind used science and debunked evolution. Your response: "Nu UH!" You do not have evidence for evolution.

[@chuckeelhart1746]

How does Kent even get invited to these debates?

[@brianprinty112]

Kent doesn't need a moderator to dig his own hole

[@chuckeelhart1746]

@@shanehisle1294 Yes Kent does seem to be the poster child for Dunning Kruger effect.

[@causedefect3432]

That opening statement by Dave was first rate slaughter.

[@loturzelrestaurant]

...Please report Hovind; he’s not just plain-dumb but outright dangerous. For such hyper-spiteful people, the reportbutton was originally intended.

[@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264]

@@loturzelrestaurant it’s idiots like fake professor Dave and moron Ra that are dumb for believing in something so retarded as evolution, and dangerous for teaching kids that humans are animals

[@loturzelrestaurant]

@@chucklesdarwinwaswrongevol9264 I'm sorry for you. So sorry. Your username even includes the R-Word... thats so pitiful.

[@ezekielanderson9055]

*Kent

[@ezekielanderson9055]

@@loturzelrestaurant *Dave

[@andrewarnold9642]

Kent got entirely defeated in dude's intro, then spent the whole time proving it.

[@bryanfreeman437]

Nah. Dave is not a professor of anything but cuckoldry and wanking.

[@d33bo67]

Kent made his point well. Dave is the one who kept redefining and evading Kent’s questions

[@AMC2283]

kent's point is his god did it, and his beliefs refute nothing and are evidence of nothing

[@badideass]

Creationists exist so Scientologists have someone to laugh at

[@badideass]

Creationism is a mental illness

[@ColonelEmpire]

Evolutionists exist so that scientists have someone to laugh at.

[@badideass]

@@ColonelEmpire scientists laugh at other scientists who practice one of the strongest scientific facts? Sorry but your comment makes no sense

[@ColonelEmpire]

@@badideass "scientists laugh at other scientists who practice one of the strongest scientific facts?" Not what I said... Go back and read what I said.... Sorry but your comment makes no sense.

[@badideass]

@@ColonelEmpire why would science laugh at a scientific fact? You must be a creationist, you don't make much sense...

[@deistdean486]

Always hilarious with Kent. Remember that for every 10 Kents there's a James. Hope is not lost in the USA.

[@meetthefloccers8112]

No those 10 Kent's vote for idiots and other con men, we are lost

[@gorillagirlgorilla]

Professor Dave got Owned in this debate. Hes not getting the bigger picture.

[@seaofnihilism4637]

What is the big picture

[@MCLemonWater]

26:42 - let alone Dave's opening, this is as accurate a summary of Hovind's lies that I've heard.

[@AbrieFourie]

I came for comedy and lost hope in humanity 😢

[@davidwatson8118]

Kent is just one long comedy act.

[@goodyKoeln]

@Dave of OZ But a very sad one.

[@captainobvious8558]

@@goodyKoeln like one of the sad faced clowns that creep everybody out.

[@Mariomario-gt4oy]

Its 2020 this shouldn't even be debated now

[@johnnythunderschlong3031]

Mario mario luckily it isn’t a debate to anybody serious BUT it’s excellent lolcowdom

[@islandonlinenews]

Good point. evolution was disproven by scientists well over 100 years ago.

[@johnnythunderschlong3031]

islandonlinenews Evolution is so debunked the major practical application was germ theory and thus modern medicine...

[@islandonlinenews]

@@johnnythunderschlong3031 what does the belief in evolution have to do with the existence of germs?

[@chimpanzeethat3802]

Evolution is essential to life as we know it. Without our knowledge of evolution we wouldn't be able to do anything about antibiotic resistance in disease causing organisms or pesticide resistance in agricultural pests. Modern medicine, agriculture, biotechnology and toxicology would all be completely screwed without evolution. Industries exist that only produce results because evolution is proven to exist and they are based around the functionality of evolutionary mechanisms.

[@johnosborne7637]

Watch Dr. James Tour, if you want to know about chemistry.

[@robertcarsten4050]

But this is about biology.... A field tour is not a subject matter expert in. So seems counter productive