How ’15-minute cities’ became a lockdown conspiracy - BBC Newsnight

To reduce carbon emissions and meet climate goals, politicians in Oxford are attempting to restrict the number of times some vehicles can drive through the city each year while still allowing unlimited access via the City's ring road.
The city also has a long-term plan to be a 15-minute city, where food, medicine, education, and leisure facilities are all within a 15-minute walk or cycle from someone’s front door.
This plan has been conflated with its traffic-restriction trial by conspiracy theories that present the measures as a form of climate lockdown.
Newsnight’s Science Correspondent Kate Lamble reports on how a conspiracy theory about "15-minute cities" became tangled with some people's real concerns over the measures.
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[@juliehughes4623]

Stop private planes, job done!!!

[@horacioelconserjeopina3956]

Stop Chinese manufacturing, job done!

[@carmonandy]

@@horacioelconserjeopina3956 you realise that would require stopping western European and American consuming of those manufactured goods?

[@Oatmeal300]

Why not stop all planes?

[@claretblue2509]

@@Oatmeal300 because we won’t be able to travel.

[@Oatmeal300]

@@claretblue2509 If we are all equal, if we ban private planes, we should ban all planes

[@Sparkles12340]

BBC slagging off “misinformation “….ooh, the irony. 🤣

[@KathyBooth]

They say 'conspiracy' theory and then say they are doing exactly what they are being accused of. They must think we're idiots.

[@simonyoung1125]

self report

[@checktheskies5040]

Liars

[@castiron2844]

you are

[@lsbfilmproductions]

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[@kimberly5342]

Right 🤥🤥

[@psyste4708]

It goes from “it’s a conspiracy” to “it’s a good thing“ way too fast.

[@andrewditton7226]

Exhaustingly reoccurring pattern.

[@LinkLich]

Media now be like The Last Jedi has no respect for nostalgia and that's a good thing. Disney killed the star wars expanded universe - why that's a good thing Eternals is not your typical marvel movie, and that's mostly a good thing Andor doesn't feel like star wars, and that's a good thing The Lord of the Rings the rings of power is going to upset Tolkien purists, and that's a good thing Pretty sure left wing media is a alien hive mind trying to turn America into one big soy bean for harvesting.

[@maxmustermann9305]

How is having all your needs in walking distance a bad thing?

[@uniqueprogressive9908]

@@maxmustermann9305 Its a trick to lock you into a 1.5km radius around your house with heavy surveillance and tracking devices. It happened in my country

[@maxmustermann9305]

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[@sweeneytodd011]

I'm not seeing anything in this article that disproves misinformation or "conspiracy" Fines and restrictions, more cameras, more rules, less freedom is all I'm seeing here.

[@bradralph4190]

LOL.

[@LaserBread]

Less freedom for drivers, sure. But that means more freedom for everyone else.

[@invidatauro8922]

@@LaserBread What if you want to go outside of your little bubble?

[@AmongRevenants]

Less freedom? Stream-lining every day mundane required tasks into the same neighborhood for fast completion leaves free time available for what you want to do, instead of what you have to do. Driving to every required daily destination, spending more time on the road instead of at your destinations is inefficient. Parking your ride and accomplishing all life's boring tasks with one short swoop, a better use of time. Leave it to Q to turn the science of traffic flows into satan's sermon. Positive change is progress for the greater good and a hell train for the rest of civilization's flotsam.

[@AmongRevenants]

That's because most folkes see mundane every day tasks and expectations as boring busy work. Not personal contripulation from unknown sources. What some on here are regarding with horror and terror. Is just one study out of uncounted studies that occur every day about everything. It's not a Bond villian the usual suspects fear online. It's just science and change keeping them up at night inventing the next day's spectacle. If one desires fear. Imagine a limited nuclear exchange in Ukraine. And you find yourself farther than 15 minutes from your daily necessities to continue existing. You can survive weeks without food, but only days without water. In case Russia gets nuke happy. Would you prefer your closest clean water supply to be 15 minutes away by foot, or 2 hours away requiring a vehicle?

[@Hedgehobbit]

This video is hilarious. First they say that it's misinformation that you'll be locked in your zone but 5 minutes later they say you'll need a special permit to leave, literally proving the conspiracy true.

[@iggyzeta9755]

Almost every "right-wing conspiracy theory" of the past ten years has been proven correct.

[@rebeccablech1140]

Hence the clever use of 'omission'. A conspiracy it is, a theory it is not, at least not unless it is prevented.

[@insertnamehere5809]

Gaslighting 101

[@jackbarraclough8333]

but you won't be locked in your zone, because you can still walk, cycle, catch public transport, and even drive out of the zone by taking the ring-road. So yes, it is misinformation to say that you'll be locked in your zone.

[@organichuman]

@@jackbarraclough8333 No, because that can always be taken away if we constantly surrender our rights and way of life. They already propose to financially punish you. Say you ran over your 100 travel journeys per household quota and there is an emergency and you need to get to a hospital or something similar and the car is the only option to get to the other district. They will fine you regardless. People like you will always justify tyranny though.

[@noconsentgiven]

How can you call it a conspiracy when you have cities and states all over the world implementing these policies in part or whole🤔😑🤨?!!

[@goldenhourkodak]

You like long walks to get places?

[@robo_t]

@@goldenhourkodakOr needing cars and a license? That’s pretty bad if I have to get government approval to drive, and to have to purchase a vehicle for thousands of dollars just to get around easily

[@noconsentgiven]

@@goldenhourkodak We already have 15 min cities, theyre called CITIES🤯😂. Most inner cities had this infrastructure already set up. If not for "urban flight" to the suburbs we wouldnt even be having this conversation.

[@breauxdose]

@@goldenhourkodak no I like non poisonous food dub

[@justcrap3703]

​@@goldenhourkodak You like being a r*t*rd?

[@TheCellarGuardian]

Why force a lockdown on people? If you just provide the damn services, everybody will naturally prefer closer services over tdistant ones and you would in any case reduce by a lot traffic etc... What's the need to FORCE a lockdown? The only answer is that stripping away people's freedom is EXACTLY your purpose, and the environmental thing is just an excuse.

[@adelinad3513]

Control ..they are control freaks

[@mikecook1537]

Why are you chatting such bullshit

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@adelinad3513 ...next thing your going to tell us is that they don't want us to eat meat because of the climate.

[@humaneconnection9075]

Are they forcing it? I thought the traffic regulation was a separate thing, not a part of the 15 minute city

[@Matt4jackson]

It’s not a conspiracy theory, it is literally what is happening

[@tonycatman]

"It is literally what is happening". No it is not. There are no regulations of any kind, now or in the future, which will stop people from leaving their 15 minute zones. Back to your tin-foil hat.

[@tonycatman]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od I have actually seen the film gaslighting. I suspect you have not. The BBC is calling out peoples' lies. The lies include the statement that you will not be allowed to leave your 15 minute zone according to existing plans. There are no such plans. There is a video online showing how people in China are having to go through barriers, and get past guards "in order to leave their 15 minute zone" In fact, those people are entering a train station. Many people are claiming this has something to do with the WEF, and eating bugs, and staying in your pod. In fact, towns like Oxford and Canterbury were pedestrianized over 20 years ago. London has had a congestion charge for driving through the centre for 20 years. Paris plans to halve its parking spaces. These plans have nothing to do with the WEF.

[@snozzlehead92]

They are trying to reintroduce the Commie block by calling out a different name: "urban planning". kzbin.info/www/bejne/pITRg5ysqbGKqNk

[@ianhomerpura8937]

Time to overthrow the domination of big oil companies like Shell and BP!

[@grimacemcdonald1]

BBC propaganda film to be shown in museums in years to come about how media lies throughout the years

[@Misterman924]

This is why people should cancel their tv license

[@bradralph4190]

and buy tin foil like you??

[@zhanucong4614]

​@@bradralph4190 yes its cheap, everything you need is on phone

[@Ricardofromage]

Go home Brad, and take your myopia with you, silly human.

[@groggs321]

​@@bradralph4190 oh you'll come to realise in the next few months that a tin foil hat was the best invention from the wheel

[@JJP1999]

Never had one in me life and never will 👍

[@shakirjoseph9115]

It sounded so strange for him to use government and honest in the same sentence.

[@Julia-lk8jn]

I was laughing so hard at the concept that in a 15 minute city, you're not allowed to leave that radius. Look, if the government really wanted to do that, they could do it just as well in a 'normal' city, just cut off or severely limit the gas supply.

[@jasonlee8156]

Agree. This conspiracy theory just doesn't make any sense at all.

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@jasonlee8156 Using the term "conspircy theory" doesn't really tell anyone anything. Some conspircy are right some are wrong. People are very suspicious of the government motives, which I think is a very health attitude towards all governments in general. The curiously aggressive and wholesale reaction to questioning and challenging these 15 cities is suspious in itself.

[@jasonlee8156]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od I find this a real conspiracy theory. If these plans of turning communities into 15 minute cities is an attempt to limit the ability of people moving about then tell me something. Where are the plans to confiscate cars and trucks? How about limiting access to fuel or gasoline? How about doing away with public transportation? If I were a dictatorship that's what I would do.

[@AccidentalExpat143]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9odIt is because to my mind it is like someone suggesting the earth is 6000 years old and then getting angry that I am not taking them seriously. There are many legitimate criticisms of the government but forcing people in small bubbles is stupid for many reasons. 1. If they care out money, this will severely reduce the amount of money they get for a wide variety of obvious reasons. 2. If they care about power, they don't need to do anything because they already have it. 3. If they really wanted to do this it is very easy. Basically everyone is dependent on a car so you can make it harder to get a licence, close roads, or make fuel impossible to get. And there is basically nothing you would be able to do about it. Adding a bike path and making the city a nicer place to live in is the worst way of being a evil dictator I can think of. It actually seems quite nice. Maybe just maybe some councillor are actually trying to improve your lives. This is my city, it probably counts as a 15 minute city, please tell me what you hate about it. www.google.com/maps/@52.159572,4.491414,3a,75y,95.65h,89.67t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sdo9yYjEdY0O_rnxsp3xEGw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3Ddo9yYjEdY0O_rnxsp3xEGw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D65.51489%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu In case you are wondering I am not trapped, I visited all large cities in the Netherlands went to a bucnh of other European countries and travelled internationally in the past year and I was not stopped once.

[@1luarluar1]

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[@gstreets2084]

It's not disinformation. Your video confirmed all the things that people are worried about LOL

[@grimaffiliations3671]

crapping your pants over nearby amenities. Grow up will ya

[@gstreets2084]

@@grimaffiliations3671 That's a straw man argument. When you misrepresent an opposing view only makes yours look weaker. The concern isn't about having amnesties closer to where you live, obviously. The concern is the "trial" they mentioned in the video of implementing cameras to monitor where you are going and to fine you for using roads too much. That's literally what they said in the video.

[@grimaffiliations3671]

@@gstreets2084 That doesn't have anything to do with the 15 minute city, that's about traffic restriction, kind of like a congestion charge. If anything, you're misrepresenting the 15 minute city

[@DrJams]

BBC is anti car. Timetable dependant public transport that is fixed to a set route is what they want

[@grimaffiliations3671]

@@DrJams good public transport makes car travel more enjoyable

[@Hankblue]

>"These conspiracy theorists think we want to restrict movement, it's ridiculous" >"Anyway, we will be fining people who drive too far out of their zones"

[@parameshnat]

Do you consider people who pay for parking to have been fined? Afterall, where they go to has been restricted unless they pay Do you consider people who pay for toll roads to have been fined? Afterall their movement has been restricted unless they pay When someone pays for fuel, have they been fined? Afterall, if they don't pay for fuel they can't go anywhere! Very draconian, it seems to me. This is just another charge, to minimise ratrunning, and make our streets more quiet and less polluted. You calling it a fine doesn't change that.

[@Hankblue]

@@parameshnat "Minimize ratrunning"? My brother in christ, rat runs are specific busy roads. You minimize them by targeting those roads, changing sat nav algorithms, public transport routes and signage. Penalising anyone who leaves their area minimizes rat running in the same way that penalising anyone who leaves their house reduces violent crime. Don't try to dress this up as incompetent town planning, just say you're happy to drastically reduce people's freedoms and quality of life in exchange for a 0.01% drop in emissions. And don't stop there, because your domestic heating creates more emissions than cars, so you should be happy to accept fines for using too much of that as well. Blankets work just fine, quality of life isn't nearly as important as reducing global emissions.

[@parameshnat]

@@Hankblue Cheeky of you to ignore everything in my comment excepting one word! Go via the ring road, and you'll avoid the charge (so no freedoms impinged). This effectively targets all neighborhood roads. I agree, you could get a similar effect with modal filters and one way roads, but the outcome is still the same. Drivers would be inconvenienced for the benefit of everyone else (and themselves) It's not obvious that encouraging drivers to take the ring road would reduce emissions (given they travel for longer). But the inconvenience of it will encourage people to consider quicker and cheaper alternatives. There's a reason why people don't bother driving in the centre of cambridge. It's much quicker to cycle and walk everywhere, because of all the one way streets. The centre, as a result, is much nicer to be in without all the cars. Dutch cities have something similar, where pedestrians and cyclists can take the most direct route, but cars have to go via a more roundabout route. Makes their streets much quieter and less polluted. The netherlands as a whole has the highest driver satisfaction of any country :) They also have a healthier population than us. They have quieter streets. They have children who don't have to be shuttled by their parents in 2 tonne chelsea tractors everywhere. Let's copy them

[@parameshnat]

@@Hankblue kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWLPaGiHpreFapo I'm a big fan of this video explaining this stuff. It reminds me that there's a world in which we don't *_have_* pay shell and insurance companies £1000s per year just to get to work or buy some groceries.

[@ohno467]

Also meat reduction and restricting air travel but we at the bolshevik BBC assure you this green tyranny is just a conspiracy theory

[@richardgregory3684]

"it's a conspiracy theory about how travel will be restricted" "here's how we plan to issue permits to travel on certain roads and stick up cameras everywhere to fine people who disobey"

[@allergy5634]

It’s not ‘if’ you travel. It’s ‘how’ you travel. Cars are terrible for cities and their inhabitants. If you drive one, you are hurting others

[@WHEN-LAMBO]

Are you working the WEF or are you serious that stupid .. meehh little sheep .

[@latinus_iv]

@@allergy5634This makes me want to drive my car even more

[@chaosjoey123]

@@latinus_ivthat’s fair, but you see how that makes you a bad person who shouldn’t be pandered to right?

[@arandombard1197]

The government already restricts who can travel by issuing driving licences. There are some old city centres that just can't handle all the car traffic. That's not a conspiracy, that's just basic physics, the volume of traffic cannot exceed the capacity of the roads.

[@carlgrove8793]

The assumption that all people need exactly the same limited shops and facilities is a strange one. I wonder whether every 15 minute city will have a book shop, a library, a historic building, a church, a green area etc.?

[@Julia-lk8jn]

I wonder if you can find a single proponent of 15 minute cities who claim that *anything* that *anybody* could want is within that radius. Things within my 15 minute radius: 4 green areas, three dentists, one pharmacy, my GP, my work place, two churches one city hall, and no clue how many small shops. Two post offices, I think. No, I don't live in a city center. How many historic buildings do you need in an average week?

[@thirionj]

You will be allowed to go to church when we say you can. 😂

[@leet3207]

How about banning private jets if this is about climate change.

[@allthatjazz9000]

Because celebrities use them. They are more important than us. They need them for their many many luxury vacations

[@emze563]

because its more than just climate change, banning jets wont help congestion in oxford

[@tonycatman]

It isn't about climate change.

[@samuelthornton9179]

Because oxford county council dont have that power

[@simonyoung1125]

@@samuelthornton9179 you and your facts! i want my bias confirmed and I want it NOW

[@tastytechaddictsmtb]

But I see no one mentions the downside where you get fined if you go over your entry / exit zones allowance for the year, as per Oxford and other planned 15 minute cities. It’s all rainbows until you have family, work etc that live outside your area which causes you to leave said area frequently and thus then get fined.

[@LittleLoz]

Lol

[@dickieblench5001]

Being fined. Hmm does that sound benevolent or malevolent?

[@theApeShow]

NYC MTA has begun.

[@justarandomguy117]

They literally said they put it on specific roads, primarily that go inwards towards the city center and alike. The solution is going around. If you have to drive long distance it's literally a non-issue. They don't mind you driving OUT of the city, they just don't want you driving far into the city when you don't need to.

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@justarandomguy117 I undersatand what you are saying and I totally disagree. You would have to be very naive to believe that this all stops here and there will be no more restictions on your abillty to travel or operate a car. You must not judge these climate change impossitions in isolation. You must judge with a national and international perspective as they evolve through time. You can not see the whole picture if you only study a single jigsaw piece.

[@kyliec143]

This comment section is so demoralising. Use of private motor vehicles, especially for longer distances, has been proven time and time again to be an inefficient way of travelling that is expensive, inequitable and dangerous. Car-centric design has destroyed the vibrancy of many places where streets that were made for people, are now thoroughfares for vehicles to speed through. Cars still have their place in our cities - we just don't need so much of them.

[@kyliec143]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od I’m pretty happy with freedom of expression, I just wish more people took advantage of their freedom of research and critical thinking.

[@johnguilfoyle3073]

"It's not as bad as you think, the government just wants to track your movement and fine you if you use certain roads more often than Big Brother allows." But that's exactly what the conspiracy theorists and anti-Government people have been saying.

[@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr]

No. They are saying people will be confined to their 15 minute zones

[@shelleyhayton9251]

Have a look at China - if you are good, you can go 15 minutes to that area. If this is a misunderstanding over semantics, the Governments have only themselves to blame! They’ve lied on so many fronts over so many issues in the past 3-4 years. No transparency, control measures to the max?? Sounds like the end of democracy and freedom - regardless!

[@ianhomerpura8937]

@@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr that is what BP and Shell want you to think. They want you in your car, buying oil from them.

[@travisblanchard88]

@@Grrrr3FKAGrrrrGrrrrGrrrr If you can't afford the fines and you've travelled more than you're allowed, are you not restricted? So constant travel will be only for those who can afford it? Got it.

[@blueanodized]

Its totally fine - the concept was apparently developed in 2016 by Carlos Moreno and was picked up by Paris mayor Anne Hidalgo in 2020 - all cutting edge stuff & not at all a recycled concpet that was previously developed by tyrannical soviet collectivists. It most definitely has nothing to do with 'the ideal communist city' that was written by Alexei Gutnov back in the sixties. Please disperse... nothing to see here.

[@1976mcfarlane]

Anybody paying attention knows exactly what they're up to

[@An-Orange-Fox]

You're silly 😂

[@aidan9266]

It's generally concerning that people like you get to vote

[@1976mcfarlane]

@@aidan9266 people like me don't waste our time on voting because are AWARE it's all rigged and controlled from the top down. One day you will become aware of the globalist agenda but sadly by then it will be too late.

[@saintdolanchirosius3704]

@@aidan9266 you dropped your flag 🏳️‍⚧️

[@saintdolanchirosius3704]

@@aidan9266 people like you said: "Forced vaxination is a conspiracy theory" but it wasn't. This is the same only the idiotic or outright shills can deny what they're doing.

[@NESig]

Asking permission to do something constitutes a loss of freedom. Some people are fine with losing freedoms. I am not one of those people.

[@danieldurchtechnik6804]

My God, how vile is the BBC?

[@hellacoorinna9995]

*Jimmy Saville yodelling*

[@Joeys6thchin]

It’s corrupt to the core like every government agency in Bankrupt Britain

[@a.a.staffing5272]

You can usually tell when something is fishy when they start putting up a bunch of denial videos

[@safe-keeper1042]

Conspiracy theories are pretty fishy, yes.

[@HelennaPierce]

When the media call anything a conspiracy, it's usually not. Keep that in mind.

[@marklab9401]

Source?😊

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@marklab9401 ....I think during the pandemic it was from highly qualified experts and professors and academics and government officals and highly experienced doctors and of course the BBC and all major national and international news outlets. The problem is that they were all profundly wrong and at the moment their is epidemic of excess deaths around the world. You need to question all sources and apply wisdom and scepticism and real life experience to all your judements and not just accept something because it happens to make you feel good or lines up with you politics.

[@lithiumessex1961]

it’s 2023 and there are people who still think the government acts in our best interest when making these decisions

[@LeftThumbBreak]

This article does more to confirm the "conspiracy" and "disinformation " then refute it. Fines for traveling too far or on the wrong road, how is this not a form of government locking its residents down. Then UK government needs behavioral change huh or more fines? So is that still a democracy? I missed the part where the people are consulted for the decision rather government academics.

[@4TH-Raikages-Father]

Exactly

[@vatsmith8759]

Fines for travelling? No. Fines for driving your car in a restricted area, yes. Doesn't your town have pedestrianized areas? Mine does and it's very nice.

[@LuficariusRatspeed]

@@vatsmith8759 it's the wrong way to go about it. Forced demand isn't induced demand. This is government using aggression and violence rather than voluntary acts of the people.

[@vatsmith8759]

@SEEK THE TRUTH! Any ideology that says eating a bacon sandwich is wrong is just ... wrong.

[@benstern310]

@@vatsmith8759 so if someone drives from Beckenham to Wallington, is that a case for a fine?

[@MenGrowingTOWin]

Remember when "covid came from a lab" was a conspiracy?

[@lsbfilmproductions]

And safe and effective

[@theinsanityplex9372]

@@lsbfilmproductions I just saw some people today on FB still claiming with all their might that it's safe and effective. I challenged the notion and asked how they've been missing all the information and data... and they all resorted to name calling and then ran away.

[@lsbfilmproductions]

@@theinsanityplex9372 yep, the good old tactic of "I have no come back so I'll just insult". Absolute w@nk3rs

[@mmtot]

A conspiracy is a secret plot to commit a crime, it does not mean theory.

[@lsbfilmproductions]

@@mmtot it doesn't even have to be a crime, it's 2 or more people conspiring to achieve a certain outcome.

[@scrappedcars]

What if i dont want to shop at waitroes, or take the bus full of bums and nittys, or want to drive more then 100 days a year?

[@FCT12345]

Freedom is no longer your choice

[@pomeranianproductions647]

Holy shit, the comments here make me lose my faith in humanity. 15 Minute Cities are about having all ammentities within a fifteen minute walk, saving the neccessity of needing a car. Something that american cities for instance have embraced the opposite of to such an extent, that having a car is a neccessity with no viable alternative. Public transit either badly funded or not existant at all, bike lanes are a rarity and sidewalks are so thin they are a danger. And that all was and is actively supported by big companies that have a vested interested in keeping their customers in their cars. It seems *these* people here see a threat in having the option to walk, take public transit or drive and not be reliant on the latter. Fear and furthermore spreading conspiracy theories does terrible things to people. This comment section is a monument to how far the propaganda from auto firms can go.

[@tdvwest9514]

Did you not watch the video.

[@VPPAF]

just think back to the police stopping and giving fines to people who dared to go a couple of miles from there home to have a coffee in a park saying it wasn't essential it's about control not pollution

[@uniteddreamer]

You can walk or cycle, or even use an ebike freely. And presumably for public spaces like parks, provisions will be made. But living where I do, I already live a 15 minute city existence. And it suits me fine tbh.

[@AGP335]

As another commenter said, many of the rich already live in 15 minute cities, and it's been shown that demand for housing goes right up in areas designed for people to have shorter journies and ones which can be easily made without a car. If you think that measures designed to reduce car use are somehow an infringement on your civil liberties, you're extremely narrow minded and sensitive. With 15-minute cities, you can still go wherever you want, whenever you want, and if you're willing enough, then yes by car. But it'll be more convenient to get to most places by public transport or bike, and you'll just have to swallow that pill.

[@VPPAF]

@@uniteddreamer it's not about not needing to go anywhere it's about them telling you you can't go where you want

[@uniteddreamer]

@@VPPAF by car. That's all. And in the case of Oxford they're giving them a number of day passes in any case. You're talking like town planners never existed

[@guillermoelnino]

@@uniteddreamer what you call freedom normal people call prison. You are not in the majority here.

[@forallofme4441]

Um.... BBC. Saying that there is a plan to use traffic cameras to track cars in the city and fine then if they are used "too often", and then following it up with "it's just a conspiracy theory bro" - is this some new Orwellian form of "journalism"?!? Goebbels would be proud.

[@QwadLuzr]

hahaha its amazing isn't it. Real doublethink.

[@barneymagee3285]

" pollute more than the others".... Cult member..😆

[@knockedoutloaded]

Welcome to the Ministry of Truth. I very happy to see the public finally have the BBCs number

[@stephendaniels721]

@Pierre In how about the idea that life has never been better for them? when ignorance is strength, you my friend are Heracles

[@keepingitwild5994]

It has been an Orwellian form of journalism for at least two decades now! Apparently, she proved those conspiracy theories to be correct after all.

[@wowshiii4519]

Dang wow what a comment section ive come across. It's a bit upsetting to see people misunderstanding what the 15 minute city is. The idea is very simple: Having your basic necessities like healthcare and grocery stores within a 15 minute walk or bike ride outside of your house. The whole idea is to make urban and suburban areas more people friendly and walkable. I don't think I'm gonna be able to change many peoples opinions here but just note that making a place more friendly to other modes of transportation is about giving people the freedom to choose a mode of transportation that suits thier needs best instead of being dependent on thier car for every trip outside of the house.

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

I noticed you made no mention of carbon emissions targets as set out in a number of international treaties. Treaties that usurp choice and make a mockery of consulting the people, and reveal the primary reason for 15 minute cities..... a lack of transparency will lead to "misunderstandings". and the doubting of governments motivations.

[@user-su1xk3mv2b]

15 minute city’s equals billionaires controlling you while flying private

[@bradralph4190]

average people fly private too. put your tin foil hat on.

[@francismarion6400]

average people fly private? like cashiers and waitresses? lol

[@tonycatman]

Lol. Billionaires don't give a frig about controlling you inside a 15 minute city. In general, they sell cars, oil, roads, or the materials that cars and roads are made of. They want people driving as much as possible. They want you sitting in your metal box for 90 minutes a day. Most modern cities have been built around what billionaires want us to do. This is not a conspiracy theory - you can check out how much money is spent by the oil and car lobbyists. Other than the private flying - the exact opposite of what you are saying is true.

[@tdvwest9514]

@@bradralph4190 Holy hell you are out of touch with reality. Average people do not fly private.

[@ianhomerpura8937]

15 minute cities equals fighting billionaires who control the oil and automobile conglomerates. Away with the duopoly of Shell and British Petroleum!!

[@patriciogamboa488]

This is just the beginning, Government never stops once they take it away, they don't give it back.

[@raraszek]

That's why we will dismantle our governments first :)

[@piotrrywczak7971]

The land taken for highways very rarely is successfully taken away and repurposed for something good

[@stequality]

All part of the great reset. You all laughed and called us tin foil hatters. Are you laughing now ?

[@russbuttypennyblackblade]

Should the government be allowed to require citizens to receive a medical product if the product’s manufacturer is shielded from legal liability? That is the question in front of multiple state legislatures.

[@cognitivedissident4615]

A government shouldn't be allowed to require you to put anything in your body, period. Especially not with this global cohort of buffoons and criminals. It's funny hearing a bunch of criminals saying "we have to do this without consulting you 'cause it's legally binding, see."

[@vincentnastri7736]

No!

[@carmonandy]

You're commenting on the wrong video mate, you're supposed to be making something up about 15 minute cities this time, not pretending mandatory vaccines are about to be forced upon the UK

[@WarriorgirlforJesus]

The New Testament of The Bible talks about The Royal Priesthood of Christ, Jesus- God’s Son, God in the flesh, who was the final atonement for mankind’s sin once and forever. Because death was the punishment for sins, blood must be shed. Jesus shed His blood, once and for all, on the cross so we wouldn’t die in our sins. Therefore the only way to the Father is through Jesus Christ. Jesus is the only name under heaven by which we can be saved. We must call out Jesus name and ask forgiveness for our sins and be washed in His blood in order to be saved. Jesus wants a relationship with you not a religion. Jesus says come follow me and obey my commandments. Jesus is the first and last, beginning and end, and He is coming back soon.

[@Stephen-wh7vl]

Yes it's for your safety. You sound like a white supremacists

[@Itshistory_itspoetry]

Conspiracies in the last 5-10 years have all been true.

[@lmlm_]

Big Government’s solution to everything is: more fines, more taxes.

[@projectbirdfeederman5491]

just get in your matrix pod already, slave - Gov, cos we love you SO much!

[@Mullet-ZubazPants]

Medieval serfs were not allowed to leave the manor property without permission of their lord. I imagine the daily range of a serf was no more than 15 minutes from their home. That's probably where they got this idea from, serfdom

[@snowwhite5842]

I imagine the serfs, ummm, people, won’t even have to worry about buying a home in this cities. They will all just rent, for their convenience of course. Wait a minute, that does sound like serfdom.

[@samhainabyss]

now the tables have flipped and the serfs have to wake up at 7am to drive 45min to work because the king wouldn’t zone work closer to home

[@FCT12345]

Good bye freedom

[@jaymantisgaming]

i dont care if it's a conspiracy or not. they're not going to tell the people what the downsides to this are until it's set up and in place. it's easier to say sorry than to ask permission.

[@vatsmith8759]

Until it's trialled nobody can be absolutely sure there won't be unforeseen downsides affecting a particular town but where it has been used on the continent it seems to work very well for most of the community, apart from car salesmen.

[@Trazynn]

There's not going to be a sorry.

[@thenextlevel112]

You people would do absolutely nothing lol

[@bradralph4190]

yeah the downsides, we've got so much more spare time we dont know what to do with it. LOL. Nut job!!

[@odmoore8908]

There’s fuck all downsides. Go to any major city in Europe and it’ll most likely be a 15-minute city. Ask most residents and they’re pretty happy that they’re not stuck in traffic congested streets most days

[@saxophonelearningtips4289]

If you "restrict the number of times some vehicles can drive through the city each year while still allowing unlimited access via the City's ring road", then you're not improving access. You're creating an unnecessary problem for everyone.

[@googoo554]

This is a direct infringement of our sovereign right to freedom of movement, and should never go ahead.

[@userefingname]

Fined for using a road "too much"? Who decides how much is too much?

[@airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083]

When I fill the petrol tank I'm fined

[@GCarty80]

@@airvicemarshalsirgeorgemas2083 Indeed, the heavy taxation of petrol and diesel is likely at least as much intended to limit driving (and thus control congestion) as to raise revenue for the Treasury. Perhaps these traffic surveillance systems are being set up to enable direct road user charging, once the rising take-up of electric vehicles makes traditional fuel duty obsolete?

[@nathanchenery1075]

They literally say they are tracking how often you use your car.

[@bradralph4190]

they do that know, lol

[@Team_Banchamek]

@@bradralph4190but they don’t charge you per mile lol that’s the difference

[@MultiBluedog123]

@@bradralph4190 dude you’re under every comment, we get it, you’re a government shill. Jog on.

[@bradralph4190]

@@MultiBluedog123 You're wrong. :) Like this whole conspiracy nonsense. Grow a brain.

[@bradralph4190]

@@Team_Banchamek Put your tin foil hat away. Its embarrassing.

[@jasonfisher693]

It’s a great idea to be able to walk or bike to get what you need within 15 minutes for many reasons. Exercise. Save money. Less noise. Better for the environment. Why is this controversial?

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

Because that will not be what we actually get, and that is not the reason for demonising the car. This all about imposing international treaties signed by criminals that effectively over time erode our rights and freedoms and usurp our democracy. All we will actually get is more cameras and giant flower pots in the middle of the road and chained to a bus time table as your rulers fly around the world is their private jets. We will become modern day peasants. And live in perpetual crisis fighting over fake prolems.

[@LlamaLover22]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9odcan you come up with an actual argument instead of all these buzzwords Kathleen

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@LlamaLover22 I do not think I am indulging in "buzzwords" at all. Most people are within easy reach of most of their basic needs and do not need and have not asked for these "cities. This is not a grass roots issue, but a media lead issue. If you are really concerned about people's well being try to tackle crime and enployment and education standards. If you read the sub-title to this vedeo you will find that this project is about carbon emission targets and not local people's well being or bullding communities.

[@jeremytine]

"chained to a bus time table as your rulers fly around the world is their private jets." right because being stuck in a congested traffic jam on your polluting sofa where you can see next Tuesday is so much better than riding a bicycle and getting much needed exercise. Take a look at such cities in reality. They are nice to live in. @@kathleenpearson-dh9od

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@jeremytine I personally believe that we should invest in a clean,safe, comprehensive, reliable and free public transport system for people who do not have or do not want a car and allow those that want a car to be allowed to have a car free from unreasonable or politically motivated restrictions. 15 minute cities are a political concept issuing from illegal international treaties, which by their very nature usurp our rights and freedoms.

[@crushingalldeceivers]

If you want to see what a 15-minute city actual is, I strongly suggest Randy Hillier's video entitled What is a 15 minute city. I think he does a great job of explaining it.

[@parameshnat]

I've watched the video. He's a numpty that hasn't ever travelled outside of his country to see that 15 minute cities already exist. They're historic european towns, beautiful, scenic and filled with such a lively atmosphere. You know, those places that people go to as tourists, enjoy immensely, but learn nothing about how to do things better... Some people urgently need to start learning and broadening their horizons...

[@wjhd6823]

I decided to Google his video and surprise surprise, he's a nutjob

[@tompiper9276]

Or visit the Netherlands...

[@justindaffronte9702]

Installing surveillance cameras to monitor your travel and keep you in districts, sounds like Hunger Games

[@bradralph4190]

they've been doing this for years, nut job. lol

[@zhanucong4614]

Or ccp(china communist party)

[@emze563]

im assuming you havent heard of a CCTV camera?

[@AmongRevenants]

Does the fact your neighbors can purchase and install cheap plug and play surveillance cameras to monitor your comings and goings give you a start at all? Guvs just need to secure your neighbors data by lawyer to see much about your activities.

[@mrdiego4368]

I mean isn’t that what already happens with cars? Cameras and government identification so they know where you are driving to?

[@andrewhalpin1872]

Potentially fining people for using roads too often...I can't believe she said that with a straight face

[@mitzievo]

It's all a conspiracy theory 🤣

[@manicmurph]

Yeah that's crazy!!

[@crushingalldeceivers]

If you want to see what a 15-minute city actual is, I strongly suggest Randy Hillier's video entitled What is a 15 minute city. I think he does a great job of explaining it.

[@crushingalldeceivers]

@FlyingMonkies325 Your opinion is laughable. Randy Hillier is not a conspiracy theorist, nor is speaking out against a willing cage a conspiracy theory, sorry for you that you are too dense to see that. However, hard to feel sorry for you as willing slaves shall serve their masters.

[@crushingalldeceivers]

@FlyingMonkies325 Limitations on your movement will also exist. Well that is that. LOL haha. Giving away your freedom one inch at a time and laughing about it. Orwell could not have predicted such stupidity.

[@therealinformalmusic]

I notice that the BBC cannot refrain from referring to people who are not conspiracy theorists as conspiracy theorists whilst allowing a typically green conspiracy theorist to spout the usual conspiracy theories.

[@stevieb4141]

When they literally tell you with a straight face that it's a conspiracy when you are legit living in it lmaaaao

[@jj349]

This isn't about climate change . The last climate change meeting was world leaders in planes not vaccined all meeting in Scotland in Glasgow . So based on facts ,the new measure with gas increased prices ,the poorest again with mortgages, rents ,food, increases that are out of control will pay the price again for something the public haven't voted for that doesn't seem to be any inflections on the people pushing it

[@kevin15776]

If Australia could force people to stay within a few miles of their home during lockdowns, Canada could lock people out of their bank accounts for protesting, and the US could fire federal employees for refusing to get an experimental medical treatment, then governments around the world can absolutely force you to stay in your 15 minute district or face financial penalties or worse.

[@kemicalhazard8770]

“Experimental”

[@kevin15776]

@@kemicalhazard8770 absolutely experimental...and we were lied to about it

[@kemicalhazard8770]

@@kevin15776 mRNA has been studied since 1989. Like all vaccines, the COVID vaccines all needed 3 trial runs before being administered to the general public. You are lying.

[@kevin15776]

@@kemicalhazard8770 sorry but they really needed far more than that and why did the FDA have to be taken to court to release that data? Why did the FDA want 75 years to release all that data? Why is the spike protein and lipid nanoparticles from the shot being found all over the body from the uterus to the heart to the brain in so many people? We were told the shot stayed in the arm and was quickly flushed out of the body. Why has the mRNA been found in the body 28 days after injection? This was NOT supposed to happen but it seems pharma knew about this from rat studies but didn't feel it was necessary to mention it. Why wasn't natural immunity considered an alternative to getting the shot?? Why did our federal health agencies push the shot on everyone?? It is not a 1 size fits all solution to a rather minor respiratory virus in healthy people. Why was the lab leak theory so quickly dismissed and people were canceled for talking about it? There's too much that does not add up. At the very least, big pharma and our regulatory and advisory agencies were negligent and wanted to withhold data. It's becoming very clear.

[@kemicalhazard8770]

@@kevin15776 It is weird that you ask all of these questions (SOME of them valid) about Covid, but do you think the same thing about every other vaccine in the world? And if so, you should realise that a whole lot of people currently alive, would not exist if it were not for the development of medicine, vaccine and the eradication (and often near eradication) of diseases. I think it is pretty ungrateful to the tens of thousands of people who risked their lives working in hospitals and in the field trying to spread the vaccine to people in order to save lives.

[@nathanchenery1075]

A lot of conspiracy theories have been coming true in recent years.

[@vatsmith8759]

Go on, give us a clue ...

[@lunarollsby9296]

Such as?

[@nathanchenery1075]

@@lunarollsby9296 lab leak theory, vaccine efficacy, Nordstream 2 pipeline,

[@vatsmith8759]

@@nathanchenery1075 No, sorry, they're all still conspiracy theories.

[@vaguelyviscous4384]

@@nathanchenery1075 I know, I'm running out of conspiracies! Lol

[@loolfactorie]

Stop paying your TV license. This is the propaganda you are paying for.

[@jeremytine]

big oil is so capable of manipulating the less than critical thinker

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

Big oil is not the same issue as the freedom to travel or the right to own a car.

[@jeremytine]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od which is a made up issue by big oil

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@jeremytine That's good news then, if our ability to travel and own a car is not going to be resticted by these so-called 15 minute cities. I certainly believe that these giant corporations who are more, or will be more, powerful and influential that most nations are a real threat to the well being of humanity itself.

[@zivkovicable]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od Decades of propaganda (advertising) have manipulated you into thinking that car ownership = freedom. While they might be a necessity for rural living, they are the least efficient, most expensive and slowest way of getting around cities, and that's where most people drive. While high speed rail is quicker than driving long distance from city to city. Have you ever worked out how many hours you work to keep a car on the road, or how many days of your life you've accumulate sitting in traffic? Apart from a home it's usually the biggest expenditure anyone undertakes, but unlike a home, it loses value as soon as you drive it away.

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@zivkovicable What you say about propaganda by the manufactures to make us buy their product is true as is it true of all commercial companies trying to make us buy their product. Whether or not they have substantially influenced a very large number of people to associate the car with freedom is quiet irrelvant to the actual argument of whether or not it is right to restict our use and/or ownership of a the car in general, or indeed to the question of whether or not the car does or does not enhance our feedom, based on the arguments presented by the advoctes of these "projects". It is not obvious to me exactly who are the advocates and what exactly are their justification for these "projects" which raises the question how many more "projects' will be implemented and what will be their nature and what will be thier consequences. Your point is a very interesting one, but does not address the fundamental qusetions and concerns this issue raises. I do not believe that international treaties, that clearly usurpt our vote and existing rights and freedoms of our nation, is legal or moral and is the source of these unending "projects' that are being imposed upon us indirectly by unaccountable international bodies which are funded by giant financial enterties whose sole purpoes for existing is to make profit. I think the motivation and aims of all people and organisations that seek to tell us what to do and what to believe should be closely examined, questioned and analysised and that would include the advocates of these "projects" as well as the oil industry and the car manufactures and the politicians. To believe these issues are just about our convenience and traffic flow is ridiculously naive.

[@_NetPositive]

well, human freedom was fun while it lasted.

[@uliksus]

The human freedom < The human problems

[@vaguelyviscous4384]

@@uliksus What problems?

[@argumentumadhominem3977]

They will not laugh anymore at the day of judgement. They will get what they deserve for an eternity.

[@jon123xyz]

At a minimum, viewing this as a conspiracy reflects the public's lack of trust in government which is seen as authoritarian and disingenuous. It does not help the WEF did indeed say "you will own nothing g and be happy"!

[@TheCellarGuardian]

We understood perfectly that you want to lockdown people. What's the purpose of insisting so much on the obvious? Of course everybody prefers to have services close to home. The point is: once I have them, will you use that to strip away my freedom to move? That's the point. You start with the carrot just because you want to obtain something else. Otherwise, you would just build the damn services, and maybe brag a bit to get votes, but there no need to create all this "15mins City" fuss, it's simple common sense. The fact that you insist so much on it reveals that you want to strip away freedom of movement and we will not allow it.

[@davidbarnard1126]

How can it be a 'conspiracy', when it is actually happening in front of their eyes ?

[@TheTrailburner]

The conspiracy is that the "Control" part is completely made up. People do want to be able to have all their basic amenities within walking distance. Remember when fuel prices skyrocketed last year?

[@davidbarnard1126]

@@TheTrailburner Utter Codswallop! I suppose that politicians wanting WW3 is a conspiracy as well. While the UK Public say 'No Thankyou' Tell me please . . . If its NOT about control, why did the Oxford council take it on themselves to create the LTNs? And 90% of the local community said NO. If thats not trying to take control, I don't know what is.

[@TheTrailburner]

@@davidbarnard1126 If you don't want WWIII: tell Putin to go home. It's that simple! The LTN were put in place because the residents that live on the streets were complaining about the congestion. Of course everyone else around would whine about it. It's not their neighbourhood they're driving through and their kids being run over.

[@TheTrailburner]

@@davidbarnard1126 Also, did you know that famous "fighting against government control" Tucker Carlson supports 15 minute cities?

[@davidbarnard1126]

@@TheTrailburner If the people of Oxford wanted the LTNs what are all these videos? Even Oxford council have said that it is not working. kzbin.infoBtpBEwGvDy8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYbXlaGYlsyWp68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/faSah6GaoKqZpK8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn3GXqxsbZqWm68 kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ2VZYaYob2lia8

[@TheMudDragon]

Why not have all these 15-minutes zones as well as unlimited travel capacity? If everything's within walking distance; people will use their car less frequently by default. It's suspicious.

[@BunkerMentality]

Someone has already invented that. It's called, and bear with me here, "the 15 minute city". Ignore the conspiracy nuts. The 15 minute city is a perfectly reasonable, if a little optimistic idea that we'd all be better off if we didn't NEED to drive long distances just to go about our normal everyday lives. It's actually harking back to how things used to be. No serious article or paper on the concept of the 15 minute city has ever suggested stopping people traveling outside their 'area', or fining them. Clearly if people live more locally then travel will naturally reduce, and that's a good thing. Unless you're a libertarian fruitloop who likes nothing more than sitting in traffic for hours in their freedom-mobile just to stick it to the man.

[@TheMudDragon]

@@BunkerMentality What about the proposed camera surveillance and ticketing systems for exceeding travel allowance that was suggested? And even if it wasn't "officially stated"... so wasn't the vaccine passports. At first. People need to be wary.

[@arviejustiniano2359]

@@BunkerMentality ignore the conspiracy nuts lol. no one is against having things at a convenient distance. the issue comes from the survillance of movement via tolls and after the c-19 with movements on restrictions. the conspiracy nuts arent the ones who are nuts, its the people who actually trust the government.

[@jus4795]

Yeah, that what 15 minutes city idea was in the first place. To create places people want to go near places where people live so that traveling for long distances on daily basis will be reduced by pure convenience of having similar destinations close to home. What the heck have they done with a perfectly good idea? Why make it into this useless abomination...? That's just... Stupid, and made me angry, because of their policies they tinted the concept for the public, and now creating reasonable laws and policies will be protested by mere lack of luck of sharing the same concept name...

[@TheMudDragon]

@FlyingMonkies325 Like I said, the issue isn't how it's built, but the surveillance surrounding all of it.

[@KuroSlick]

WEF puppets.

[@suilvenmountain2395]

If you live outside Oxfordshire you won't be able to drive into Oxford without being fined. That's climate lockdown

[@greggieo]

That "disinformation specialist" looks exactly as I would imagine. Minus the pink or blue hair, she is keeping it professional tho. When you see someone like this in public you can be 100% sure they are up to date on their boosters.

[@bumblebee4280]

😂😂😂 Let's put it at 70% compliance. There have to be a few non compliant people with that hairstyle.

[@jstanders6973]

G Michael, I agree with you 💯 ... And that smugness... I'm annoyed

[@nadimhussain6383]

So inoccent, just cameras everyone monitoring you and fines if you walk a little too far. What about my mamma who lives 40mins away, can i still see her when I want to? Or only when government allows me to. Reminds me much of lock downs

[@vatsmith8759]

No, the only fines will be for driving your private car in a 'low traffic' town centre.

[@thebrunetteinroom7]

One of the best things about this is a great excuse not to see family. I ain’t fighting it 😂

[@ljcomments886]

@@vatsmith8759 Until they are not the only fines....

[@vatsmith8759]

@@ljcomments886 Yes, perhaps traffic fines might be the thin end of the wedge that lead to the loss of our freedoms guaranteed under Magna Carta? Perhaps an evil conspiracy hatched by a shadowy cabal of yellow road paint manufacturers? Double yellow lines were only the start of their bid for world domination ...

[@ljcomments886]

@@vatsmith8759 My point was that the fines and restrictions shall perhaps seem generous to some such as yourself.. however will become more stringent down the line. No need to sperg out mate

[@nelpe9703]

Didn't all mandates start with the same lie "It's voluntary"? "Oh,it's SO nice!" MISINFORMATION??? PLEASE, people, START THINKING FOR YOURSELFES!!!

[@lifeofsophiamari]

Imagine not being to see your loved ones or friends because you drive down that road “too often” my family and my friends live around and hour or 2 away from me so you’re telling me to take public transport instead when I can be on my own comfort of driving to them, this is a massive agenda and something worse is coming this is only the tip of the iceberg.

[@TheCoomer]

World economic forum....

[@TinLeadHammer]

Obviously, cameras and fines is a totalitarian approach. How about re-zoning suburbs (talking mostly about the U.S. here) to allow mixed use, to allow small convenience shops and barbershops and coffee places and libraries and whatnot closer to where people live? Biking up to, say, 5 miles is totally fine - you leave your home, exercise while biking to work and have a productive day. Good cities are actually built like this, there are clusters of houses, shops, child-care centers, schools, drugstores, etc. You leave your area to go to a big theater or an amusement park.

[@meeru6185]

That is already the case in most places - but the issue is that many drivers use these local roads to move through the city; the plan is meant to encourage others to use the ring road (where there are no fines).

[@LaserBread]

Absolutely. This is why public transportation and yes, some car infrastructure is important. I don't see this as a newfangled idea, but more so stepping back to the days before cars and then going forward from there. Or a more modern take; something more in line with Japan's city design.

[@theun4giv3n]

@@meeru6185 they're shutting off access for all drivers. Delivery drivers and emergency services can't get through. Don't believe the pretty propaganda. It's a scam. It's a trap. The BBC admits in the video the government wants fewer people to fly and the UK and EU and some US states are moving to ban petrol and diesel vehicles. The people in charge don't want us plebs travelling all while they fly about in their private jets that release more CO2 in one flight than my car does in a lifetime. Stop being used. Stop being played

[@Matt.]

The BBC has funding from Car & Oil companies. This video's a prime example of misleading people to suit their Agenda. Would defo recommend 'Not Just Bikes' videos on KZbin which give a much better solution to urban planning than this misinformed video.

[@AGP335]

A third of all car journies in the UK are under 2 miles, which is a 30 minute walk or 10 minute cycle. It's mainly the people who take lots of these wasteful trips that complain the most about measures that reduce car usage, because they don't like their selfish behaviour being targeted. The UK has a lot of what you mentioned - proper zoning, high streets and public services close to where people live, all easily accessible without a car for at least 80% of residents. And yet there are still so many fastidious car drivers, choking our cities and harrassing cyclists. To clear up on the 'totalitarianism' of using cameras and fines - wherever they're put into practice, the measures are limited to specific locations with specific rules, and often give exemptions for local residents. In Oxford, cameras are being put on 5 roads that are really busy but quite narrow, and get jammed up during rush hour. The rules will be that residents of the whole city will get a permit for free use of any of these roads for 100 days a year - enough for all the shopping trips, doctor's appointments and job interviews you could possibly need - but not enough to keep commuting by car, which is exactly the point. Making life worse for drivers improves city centres, air quality, and most importantly makes life better for anyone who decides not to be one. If you can live without a car, you've saved yourself thousands of pounds a year, which many people in the UK could very much do with. So yes, it will be painful if you're a driver - but it's clearly a sacrifice worth making.

[@benxamin13]

3 times more dislikes than likes shows your propaganda is losing its grip on us.

[@rexx9496]

It's wild how the more information humans have access to, the dumber they are becoming.

[@romans1vs6teen]

I'd rather be a conspiracy theorist than a useful idiot! I've learned a lot in the last couple years.

[@helenwillby8910]

I’ve learned a lot since working from home/within the community. Eyes wide open.

[@Dave-hu5hr]

Just the last couple of years ffs.. We're doomed. 🐑

[@juniuwu]

You are a useful idiot. A useful idiot for Big Oil.

[@hereitgosagain12]

A conspiracy theorist is a useful idiot to some. They've propagated those ideas to you for a reason, you didn't invent them

[@Crypto_prod35]

Difference between a conspiracy and the truth? Six months or less

[@custos194]

I feel like people are so late on realizing this. I’ve noticed this happening 7 years ago when all these “Villages” were being built all around me. And try dealing the these village justice courts or town halls, then tell me it’s gonna make life easier!

[@lucille.phoenix5504]

This is not a conspiracy. . . This is control.

[@TheySchlendrian]

Oh no you don't have to drive a car to get everywhere, total control!!!

[@knockedoutloaded]

I can't help but chuckle whenever I hear the BBC use the word disinformation

[@keepingitwild5994]

They have turned into the masters of fighting disinformation with disinformation.

[@richard7645]

Information that's more smarter, and logical than what they come out with 😄

[@4TH-Raikages-Father]

I'm so happy more of us are waking up, I remember a time when all the comments ware brainwashed and defensive of the mainstream establishment and authority.....it was mainly before 2015

[@musicbygoldenj]

Scary stuff. This video is presented in a calm manner, meant to downplay. Instead it’s terrifying.

[@ooopaulpeterooo]

Is being able to walk to your supermarket is terrifying to you?

[@musicbygoldenj]

@@ooopaulpeterooo you didn’t watch the video did you

[@ooopaulpeterooo]

@@musicbygoldenj in a world with multiple existential crises, you whining about not being able to take your car everywhere all the time does not matter

[@uniteddreamer]

🤣🤣🤣🤡

[@musicbygoldenj]

@@ooopaulpeterooo so you did watch it but first choose to ignore that people will be fined for driving in their own country

[@jean-claudeb3235]

There are 650 members in the UK's House of Commons. Look how few of them show up. Shameful. No, disgusting.

[@dominicdudebromtl9380]

It's not a 'conspiracy' if it's actually happening... here in Canada, the money has already been handed out to make all towns and cities "15 minute cities". WAKE TF UP!!!!!!!!!!

[@papajo290]

Instead of explaining clearly what is their "15-minutes city", they just insult publicly people who got a different opinion.

[@blueanodized]

Is it like 'the ideal communist city'? You know, the concepts outlined in Alexei Gutnovs book circa 1968?

[@tomwery5155]

No the fascist ghettos to exploit your lives till they kill you.

[@arturs1993]

@@blueanodized I lived in communist country and I could travel anywhere I wanted 😂 So please …. Stop this comparison

[@Bugster987]

“Fine people if they use them too much” Yeah this sounds fine 😳

[@aaldrikbakker]

With every idea, an idea can be hijacked by people who turn a good concept and idea into something that is originally not that idea. The 15 min city concept acording to wikipedia is simple; The 15-minute city is an urban planning concept in which most daily necessities and services, such as work, shopping, education, healthcare, and leisure can be easily reached by a 15-minute walk or bike ride from any point in the city.[7] This approach aims to reduce car dependency, promote healthy and sustainable living, and improve wellbeing and quality of life for city dwellers. If there are politician who for some reason want to restrict people that they need a permit to go out of the 15 minute radius, then they hijack a good idea into something bad. That isn't freedom. But that doesn't make the 15 min city a bad idea. It's just urban planning. Nothing more. Amsterdam where I live we are pretty close to a 15 minute city. Not everyone but it is coming closer. You dont NEED to use your car anymore. Only if you want to go outside of the city. The same as that a UBI can be implimented in a good and bad way, where it can cause harm, or do good.

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

I think it's called bait and switch... paint a beautiful picture and deliver more cameras and plonk a giant flower pot in the middle of your road. Most places do have most of their needs in easy reach. This isn't a grass roots issue; I think it's a case of "manufactured consent" by the govermnent.

[@coolioso808]

Thanks for nicely explaining the very rational urban planning concept of a 15-minute city or neighbourhood. Although, I'm afraid your explanation will probably fall on deaf ears in this comment section, as I have looked at many comments. There are basically two mindsets here: A) Those who understand the value and well-being of living in a city where most or all basic daily necessities can be accessed by a 15-minute walk or bike and are all for it, and of course don't want to see authoritarian lockdowns where people can't leave those zones. They appreciate your comment but already get it. Like moi. B) Those who, unfortunately, have fallen for the propaganda that helps Big Oil and Gas and the elite 1% continue their lavish lifestyles in capitalism, when they reject the move towards livable and walkable neighbourhoods and perhaps even embrace gas-guzzling car culture and urban sprawl. They aren't easily swayed by logical explanations, I'm afraid. They'll probably have to learn the hard way, by experience ...

[@paulaoyedele2081]

So there is a trial run in Oxford for 2024. I just saw a video explanation of dividing it into districts and that you will be allowed 100 trips outside your district and after that fines will be implemented. It sounds like something out of China. The mayors of Edmonton & Calgary in Alberta Canada want to implement 15 minute cities, but their explanation was to make accessible stores, doctors, dentists etc within a 15 minute walk. Right now that is virtually impossible in Alberta, in the winter time, they see -30 to -36 some months. This would cause frostbite....not practical. It is as if, the world has been taken over by some brain eating amoeba....common sense has gone out the window. Like an episode of the old Alfred Hitchcock's The Twilight Zone.

[@asifjavedcloud]

When did this stop being our democracy and our society, seems like we have people making up draconian rules for our benefit and telling us how it's going to be good for us. Increased taxes, charges and fines in return for reduced freedom.

[@samhainabyss]

where’s the freedom in being forced to drive everywhere vs having a short stroll

[@davidgray8321]

cOnSpIrAcY tHeOrY

[@CyberSinZProductions]

Im a recent Urban Planning graduate. I currently work for Maryland, Usa state gov and this shit has been driving me insane. It saddens me that the conspiracy and the outright ineptitude of the Oxford Planning commission are soiling a genuinely good idea. This isn't what 15 minutes cities are supposed to be! You're supposed to incentives people with bikeways, towen centers, alterning traffic patterns, economic development. Not N@zi like surveillance! Shame on you.

[@selflesssamaritan6417]

Henry Ford which his invention made cities less lively and more polluted was a N@zi scum.

[@jasonhutton8283]

BBC is state media. 93% of Oxford residents opposed this idea. The council has shown its indifference to democracy by going ahead regardless. If the BBC was on the people's side, we'd have a very different narrative.

[@ResistanceWorldwide]

This is hillarious this has not become a conspriacy its already happening well done bbc for showing your hand.

[@maxdowney3717]

Should've seen when they reported WTC7 had collapsed 20 before it actually did on 9/11. The organisation is beyond corrupt.

[@trance7443]

It's hasn't "happened" that's just how cites were always designed since the days of Mesopotamia dingus

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@trance7443 All we will actually get is more cameras and giant flower pots in the middle of the roads. Most people already have most of their needs within easy reach. This is not a grass roots issue, people are more concerned about crime and employment.

[@trance7443]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od what's your evidence for such a claim i mean do you really think 15 minute walkable cites are some sort of dystopia?

[@VPPAF]

government and councils are meant to do the will of the people not do what they want regardless of the people

[@TheTraveller20081]

No, they're responsible for managing the areas over which they have been given responsibility for the benefit of those living, working and otherwise legitimately being there. They state their philosophical direction when asking to be elected, so that the electorate knows which direction they'll go. Local and central government is not an exercise in 'doing what they're told', not least because direct majority wishes are often harmful to people and the environment within which we live. Majority rules are almost always short-termist, usually very selfish and often utterly stupid.

[@iggyzeta9755]

Start actually voting or running for local office.

[@organichuman]

@@TheTraveller20081 These things are being introduced regardless of who is elected, it makes no difference. This goes beyond local measures but are global in scope. Digital ID and CBDCs are being rolled out globally as well You have no idea what is happening and believe anything they tell you without looking at any official documents.

[@organichuman]

@@iggyzeta9755 It doesn't matter who you vote for. These things are happening regardless. People are so ignorant. You won't stop this and far worse is coming as well.

[@tompiper9276]

​@@organichuman If you can't be bothered vote then you'll keep getting what you're getting.

[@manco828]

More WEF planning.

[@shachora5900]

as soon as the BBC puts out a vid like this, the conspiracy is confirmed.

[@VPPAF]

as usual it won't affect the rich and famous who will be allowed to do what they want only affect the normal public

[@uniteddreamer]

They'll just send their butler to do errands as usual lol

[@thebrunetteinroom7]

They are far more important than you and I.

[@geoffbirchall7552]

I will go where I please. 15 minute zones can do one!

[@johnxenon2557]

yeah, you'd be free to drive or walk or get the bus. anything you want. 15 minute zones/LTNs don't prevent anyone from driving anywhere, it just means you might need to take a longer route. If you don't fancy that take a nice walk in the sun listening to some music. Visit a cafe. Have a coffee. Read a book. Lovely. Driving is stressful and expensive anyway. Much better alternatives out there.

[@EricBlair-jg2ux]

@@johnxenon2557 That's not what the council plan envisions, eventually you would have to apply for 'permission' to leave your area from the council once you've used up your so called travel credits. Do you understand the concept of 'boiling the frog'? Totalitarian systems aren't easily implemented over night in a modern free society.

[@johnxenon2557]

@@EricBlair-jg2ux or you could take the ring road? A 5-minute detour which helps make the city a much better place for everyone. Cars can't be seen as a symbol of freedom if you're forced to own one in order to live your life. Nineteen eighty-four is a great book by the way.

[@EricBlair-jg2ux]

@@johnxenon2557 Yes it is a great book, but it seems you didn't understand the message.

[@johnxenon2557]

@@EricBlair-jg2ux yeah I think one of the powers of George Orwell is that everybody believes his writing his written from their own perspective.

[@MrRuff-cc3lg]

How would having ppl in 15 minute curb pollution when corporate dumping tons of Co2 into the atmosphere? Try focusing on the real problem.

[@ithinkicanmakethat6294]

I think the most frightening thing is realizing you live among a lot of people who lack basic comprehension. I think a lot of you are insanely close minded and when it comes to presenting new ideas, instead of researching and forming your own opinion. You opt to listen to the comments of people who don’t even know what urban planning is and how important it is and you take this idea of ignorance and run with it. That is terrifying. I’ve lived in cities where I could get to everything within 15 mins and I’ve lived in cities where it’s took 40 mins to get to a place I needed to go. Why in the absolute hell would someone opt for the 40 mins option? No one is locking you up anywhere. You literally still have the option to go where you want. Not to mention a lot of you don’t even live in cities. So this doesn’t even apply to you. But for people who live in cities and who DONT drive, their options should in fact be closer since we’re paying a city tax a lot of the times. I really wish college was free in America because a lot of you need a critical thinking class. Also, BBC is a terrible news establishment. They’re Fox News but with a fancy accent.

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

15 minute cities are safe and effective, follow the science. Isn't it on Amercian collage campuses that the students are being "educated" by professors that men can become women and that children can be treated with powerful drugs and even life ruining surgary to transit into the opposite sex. That doesn't sound like critical thinking to me. My point is that critical thinking must be combined with experience and wisdom and real world scepticism.

[@ScooterCat64]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od What does LGBT stuff have to do with city infrastructure?

[@kathleenpearson-dh9od]

@@ScooterCat64 I am trying to illutrate, in an admittlely simple way, the folly of an over reliance upon apparent authoritive voices that attempt to stigmatise the asking of questions. I become very suspicious when questions become the problem. The best way to deal with questions is to answer them.

[@selflesssamaritan6417]

@@ScooterCat64 False equivalence.

[@selflesssamaritan6417]

@@kathleenpearson-dh9od Cars are freedom, suburbia is greatest place to raise family, public transit is bad - follow the corporations and ads.

[@Sh-rv5yw]

Imagine feeling guilt about driving your 1.2 E10 petrol car to the shops when footballers are using private jets to get to premier league away games

[@mitzievo]

Only footballers ?

[@DrJams]

Never feel guilty about driving. They want you waiting at bus stops being timetable dependant

[@livvielov]

Not about making you feel guilty it's about not making driving a necessity. A lot of ppl can't drive it shouldn't be disabling

[@nevillehouchin]

I can imagine it, I do feel guilty about driving

[@luke1023]

Moral relativism, why should footballers feel guilty for using private jets when billionaires are cruising the med super yachts? Learn to think.

[@KR-jq3mj]

Perhaps one of the easiest ways for individuals to lower their emissions is by giving up the luxury of fast transportation e.g. planes and yachts. Seems like 15 minute cities are not a conspiracy theory but simply an expensive way of missing the actual target. Elites behaviour change would solve much of the problem (75 percent plus) according to many reports whereas changing the behaviour of ordinary folk would reduce 3 percent of emissions if reports are correct 🤔.. it doesn't take a conspiracy theory to rationalise that this places the reasons given as erroneous justification i.e. to reduce emissions subservient to concerns around controls, nudging and fining and changing the behaviour of normal folk which make little difference to said justification. If on the other hand the 15 minute plans are simply there to make life for citizens more convenient the erroneous justification is no longet necessary and another debate entirely is required with ordinary people at the helm.

[@KR-jq3mj]

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[@KR-jq3mj]

@FlyingMonkies325you make very good points imo. Giving people who are experiencing homelessness food before it goes off in the countries where homelessness is still condoled is helpful. There are also quite a few countries which simply eradicated homelessness and hunger by giving people experiencing homeless a home and support for the traumas that led to the homelessness like we did during covid. Sharing food is surely a moral imperative given there is a surplus of food even for the current global actual population.... simply no need for hunger in today's day and age... just a question of cooperation and collaboration re food dispersal though that seems beyond our current capacity sometimes.. still many countries have had laws against throwing food out for years sucessfully and that's all good and hopeful. the good stuff has been around since before I was born and will persist long after I am gone. People are basically good imo. But when people have too much to the degrees the elite have, then perhaps goodness becomes more of a challenge, perhaps their egos are fed too much, maybe they confuse right behaviour with control. Is there a corpus of knowledge exploring the psyches of the superpowers? I don't dont but they are the unelected leaders the puppetmasters of our governments. Changing the behaviour of these big egos is more difficult and necessary because whatever we normals do is not enough to mediate the consumption of the elite. The elite are the consumers par excellence and dominant wasteful wrongdoers they will continue to travel luxuriously on a daily basis and concoct artificial food recipes to make profitable industries for their futures and the rest of us no matter what we do, no matter how much we sacrifice cannot help or heal the effects of their damage. They have done and continue to cause exponential harm beyond our remedy and they need to change. Normies could switch our energy consumption off today and all stop eating meat tomorrow. But our suffering and starvation would be in vain ... the elite will continue with their excessive bahaviours because they can. They have the power and control and won't be suffering on our behalf. And what of the current and massive population decreases? I suspect the global population decreases will bring forth renewed and unanticipated issues. We normies are huge in number for now but small consumers by comparison and our suffering will likely make all problems worse. Meantime the elites design create and perpetuating the problems causing the problems that they see our suffering as solving. But no amount of blaming and controlling us will remedy their lifestyles causing our problems. Small acts of kindness ✨

[@KR-jq3mj]

Absolutely, well said. I think if we prioritised housing the homeless, feeding the hungry (notbwith the new food systems) but actual nutritional permaculture crops etc we would have less need for pharmaceuticals etc. Teiuble is the business of the elite is largely all aspects of war and control and they dont appear to appreciate any moral imperative aside from increasing their personal wealth. The pyramid wealth is serving the elite beyond their dreams. I read the great reset recently and wondered if the concept of freedom if ever existed is changing radically and the elite dont doubt we are theirs to organise. It made me wonder whether it is possible to be a billionaire and still stay sane. They talk as if the rest of us agree with their priorities. Its perplexing. I agree that most people are good but I am not sure if the elite are able to understand whats its like to be part of the populace. Their lofty lives are far removed.

[@shachora5900]

would any western country giving up all its emissions make any difference to the climate. nope. and the supposed science is shaky at best. this is about power. we know it. stop.

[@thirionj]

I’m reading these comments as private jets fly over my head… loudly.

[@toomanyrads3827]

This isn’t educational as far as the concept, they’re telling us what they’re going to do regardless of what people want. It’s a threat

[@TopherField]

Weird how my earlier comment just completely disappeared... let's try again shall we? Thanks for the free publicity, I appreciate you using my video in your hit piece, and proving me right.

[@Vidmantas969]

To be fair, no one is opposing 15 min cities idea. Everyone would be more happier to have everything they might need in a walking distance. Problem here is tyrannical ways council wants to implement this: Traffic filters, driving permits, fines etc. People see this as attack on their freedom. If you want this to succeed, start with infrastructure, create opportunities for small business to appear, ban large shopping centres. Then people naturally will limit their travel, because everything is reachable within 15 min walking distance, and no need tyrannical ways to control movement.

[@individual7046]

The problem is that most people in power simply wish to use important issues as an excuse to gain power. Which is unfortunate because those authortarians, have damaged the environmental movement way more then any oil baron could ever dream of. Now when ever any environmental suggestion is proposed everyone has look into whether the person incharge just wants power or not. In the case of 15 minute cities you can have your local stores and convient roads that go around the city but you can accomplish these things without having security cameras everywhere and licenses to travel from one district to another. If the system is actually going to make people's lives more convenient then people will start traveling less by choice rather then under the boot of big brother.

[@Vidmantas969]

@@individual7046 exactly that's the natural way. If place is more convenient, people will travel less. People oppose tyrannical ways government wants to implement this.

[@jonathantan2469]

I live in an area which technically checks all the boxes for the 15-minute city criteria. But I disagree with using draconian & dystopian methods to force people. Besides, there are many many reasons why you will need to leave the so-called 15 minute bubble. For instance, I want to visit a restaurant in another part of the city, or go to a hardware warehouse which sells the items in quantities I need. I might also need to transport a motorbike with a van or pickup truck to a workshop where the owner is experienced with that brand of motorcycle, etc.

[@redlight8752]

I agree, buddy.

[@rachelappleton439]

Are you joking. Who are you to say that 'everyone welcomes 15 minute cities'. You are wrong. Look at the protests in Oxford. I will also protest and most people I know are not happy about 15 minute cities. Do not speak for the people, you very naive person. Wake up!

[@thedisgruntleddyslexic7806]

3:40 he admit that they were planning it for a while. Admits that it's all about changing your behaviors to adapt to it