How a Curse Nearly Destroyed an AFL Team

[@andyp8840]

I’m gonna be honest I don’t know anything about Aussie Rules but I love your videos

[@WhyForWhatNow]

Don't say that to loud, Aussie love nothing more than to convert internationals into AFL lovers Myself included 😂

[@notaspymain4436]

They're right we do. (Tell all your friends about the game

[@madarapeiris5752]

Start watching my dawg

[@jaggerskilbeck]

Love this

[@grandpalester]

My brother seems like it is time for you to move to australia

[@bowiesinspace7152]

I cried when we won that 2013 prelim. All those losses to geelong were absolute agony. I hated them with a passion. Looking back now though with the success we had afterwards it's quite fun to watch. That prelim is still just about the best game of football i've ever seen. We never liked to make it easy on ourselves in prelims. 4 in a row under a kick, and the 5th against freo was looking that way until late when they just collapsed

[@jammahutter4605]

I remember how emotional it was everywhere around me, strangers huging strangers

[@CosFromQueens]

I remember crying with my dad and sister, my old man was hugging and jumping with a group of strangers he strained his hamstring really bad and could barely walk for the next two weeks.

[@thehandkerchief872]

Winning the prelim was definitely much more thrilling than winning the grand final

[@vladtheimpalerofyourmom-ag5112]

It was soooo sweet

[@CoVe48]

I’ve been a die hard Hawks fan my whole life I can relate, my family threw a damn party

[@DocDogo]

1:12. Wow, I never knew that someone could make an AFL teams' song so terrifying. Well, probably because I get petrified when I see the Cats on our schedule.

[@TobyCinema-od9wy]

Mate your editing has improved so much! one of the best AFL youtubers ive seen cant wait for part 3!!!!

[@toddmware]

ive watched this video a few times jagger, and the mash up between the hawks prelim win team song to 'cheer cheer the red and the white' is masterful. from a swans supporter

[@voltboyygaming06]

I'm not gonna lie, I do want a video essay on Richmonds rise from 2010-2020 or something. Just because A. these video essays are brilliant and B. Dimma's departure, so I guess it would be a sort of tribute to him. I don't know I just want more of Jagger's videos.

[@54footscray]

4:09 "to eclipse Hawthorn's reputation as the greatest side of the modern era". Hawthorn didn't have that reputation until after 2015. The only clubs Geelong could have taken that mantle from at the point in time would have been Brisbane, or maybe the eagles.

[@TheMisterEpic]

Your story telling is so good man, hope to see part 3!

[@anwarabbas4744]

It doesn't seem like he'll make a part 3, a bit disappointing 😢

[@gussysfootyandcricketflix8493]

That 2013 prelim will always be my favourite win in my life yeah I've seen flags as well but that was something special

[@imnotjason1372]

That 2013 premlin will always be one of my favorite games to repolay! amazing

[@zacborlace903]

That Prelim win is still my favorite game of all time, my heart was in my mouth at the end

[@ccassbarker]

i remember so vividly how much of a big deal that 2013 prelim was - from an all hawks big family, it was like we'd won the lottery the tears and joy after that match was insane. i remember the resentment that had built towards geelong over the years, we were so desperate.

[@Walterz_]

love to see some video essays on footy, cant wait for part three

[@rileybourke]

That 2013 prelim was absolutely a changer I've never been in a crowd more noisy, a game I still love to this day

[@fene6427]

Great vid, the emotion in that prelim was immense as a supporter who was there on the day it has honestly the best sporting moment Ive ever witnessed the roller coaster of emotions from being down and out at 3qtr time seeing a family friend storm off to the tab to collect his winnings for an "emotional security" bet on the cats to the steady comback, burgoynes goal to hit the front. But the best part and i think any hawks fan there that night can agree was when cyril made the breakaway run and kicked the goal after siren as us nor the players could hear the siren sound as everyone collective lost their shit when cyril got the footy in open space. Hawthorns Best game of footy easily

[@Chaos_Honchkrow]

Awesome video mate, would love to see a part 3

[@Luciunsama]

So good, really hanging for part 3!

[@JC4.72]

Been waiting for this part 2! So sick content

[@kurtissullivan7238]

Love your work mate

[@r0bz0rly]

i really hope we get a part 3 :')

[@leaderofnoone9087]

A reason why Jeff Kennett lost the 1999 Victorian state election. Because Jeff Kennett told people in his own party, weren't allowed to talk to the media in the last week building up to the 1999 Victorian state election. Which is ironic considering how the Kennett curse was created between Hawthorn and Geelong.

[@paulmcgaw6976]

Great video! As a Hawthorn fan 2011 and 12 were hard to take. The 2013 preliminary final are what dreams are made of! Then the preliminary final against Port.... a great stopper. That was a great video to

[@ParisAvenue2005]

I'm surprised that you didn't mention Geelong's vow after the '08 GF that they would never lose to Hawthorn again.

[@adamparker9765]

Paul Chapmen lead that vow.

[@jimmyrecard6021]

@@adamparker9765 and until he retired, they actually did never lose to Hawthorne again.

[@Biscuitabuse]

I was there at the 2013 prelim, 100% the catalyst for our threepeat.

[@SpaceCraig]

nothings better than finishing exams, going home then eating at grild for lunch just to see part 2 has been posted right as i sit down

[@EthanNuuu]

greatest rivalry of the modern era

[@dagsmate]

Being a Geelong supporter in this time was a blessing from God. I'll miss it.

[@darrenmiles-morland8038]

But I won't miss seeing Isaac Smith miss the goal after the siren in the 2016 Qualifying Final against us to end Hawthorn's chances of winning 4 premierships in a row, and then seeing Issy come to Geelong several years later to win the Norm Smith Medal in our 2022 premiership winning team.

[@Toby-Wan_Kenobi]

@@darrenmiles-morland8038 if you can't beat them, join them. - Isaac Smith (probably)

[@bradenferris]

@@darrenmiles-morland8038 fuck i still remember being at that game, the beginning of a rebuild that moment for hawthorn.

[@xcessiveOverlord]

amazing content and terrific form to the overall video. I'm sure many of us will be hotly anticipating the next instalment

[@jgphantom6]

Love your videos! As a freo fan that game killed me 8.14 and 5 on the full... ill never forget the score. We could've won that game but we choked :( when freo finally win a flag or even before I would really really love to see you do a video on them! Your quality is unparalleled in afl content on KZbin!

[@TotalDramaOwenandNoah]

It's so deflating to think that inaccuracy cost us an AFL premiership....we were the better team on the day

[@jgphantom6]

@@TotalDramaOwenandNoah i know. I think that hurts more than being outplayed :/ lol I guess the silver lining is that when we do finally win one, it'll be so much sweeter having failed once before

[@TotalDramaOwenandNoah]

@@jgphantom6 agreed

[@r0bz0rly]

@@TotalDramaOwenandNoahas a hawks fan i was cheering for you boys in the finals last year against collingwood. i really, really hope you see some success on the horizon. got a very close mate who goes for freo so i would love to see him be able to enjoy that feeling

[@aidanmccarthy1899]

Be reliable, not remarkable. That was the motto after 2012. 2013 prelim was the greatest game of all time!! You could not hear the final siren!

[@brandonrogers6650]

Brian lake was the game changer. No lake no flags.

[@marmz69]

He actually said they couldnt beat us when it counted and he was ,at that stage 100% correct

[@nath-wp7xp]

Magnificent transition at 6:16

[@djstorey]

Great video as always Jagger! Although I would say I reckon it could be even better if you added more graphics and/or text on the screen, not just clips, although those do still work. keep up the great content anyways 👍

[@Sicily_VFX]

Can’t wait for part 3!!!!!!!!!!

[@hayhaytube5120]

Great vid mate about the mighty hawks

[@Aaron_Buck]

Weekly uploads chachi, keep up the great work

[@Seychelllian]

What a thing of beauty the curse was. 2013 prelim was one of the greatest games i ever watched. So so good!

[@darrenmiles-morland8038]

How was the 2016 Qualifying Final? Did you enjoy seeing Isaac Smith miss the goal after the siren to end his own team's chances against Geelong of winning 4 premierships in a row? And then see Issy come to Geelong several years later to win the Norm Smith Medal for Geelong in their 2022 premiership winning team?

[@Seychelllian]

@@darrenmiles-morland8038 it wasn’t nice of course but after three flags in a row you’ve genuinely had your fill. That era was just so amazing to be a Hawthorn supporters. I still smile when I think back on it.

[@Legend-lb9cb]

its not relevant for the hawks fans as they've already seen plenty premierships in their lifetime

[@Seychelllian]

@@Legend-lb9cb It was just an amazing era to be a Hawthorn supporter. I wouldn’t change a thing.

[@Legend-lb9cb]

@@Seychelllian yeah it musta been the best

[@michaelmarshall1713]

Get The Hearse For The Curse.

[@vlillachy1933]

The edit from the 2012 prelim to the grand final was so clean

[@jc7671]

2013 Hawks turned on the 'thug' power. Lake, Hodge & Lewis started using their fists to win games.

[@patrickcanny4825]

part 3 needs to happen

[@kitteguh]

Please keep these coming

[@Elsiethecat]

Love ur vids!!!

[@hdogga06]

The drama, the cliff hangers, Part 3 is on its way

[@bry3500]

Great stuff Jagger!

[@dominic6867]

I just finished a 7.3k word, 37 page essay on the entire Hawthorn football club on PowerPoint. Used one of your hawthorn videos as an example. This would’ve been handy yesterday. 😅😂

[@Jdjustsaying]

Well done, you!

[@risto6895]

hey bro love your content i think you need to do one on the pies succession plan

[@Bangbongwong]

He wasn’t even wrong they beat them when it counted 😂

[@Ally_Mallow]

HELL YEH its always a good day when this legand uploads a video

[@aussieozzysmoothchillrasta4598]

I can’t stand Hawthorn.but that was a bloody great vid mate that I watched to the end..ready for the next 1🤙😮

[@bossleonie7658]

It’s hard to believe that hawthorn were 10 points away from a 4-peat

[@crashoverride7336]

I think we were a chance for a four-peat in 2016. The AFL changed the rules, half time against the Dogs 2016 Semi final. It would have been nice if Clarko got the memo.

[@ALEXLAD94]

Great vid 👍 Just on the 2013 GF - eyeball test to me says that while Freo had chances early, Hawks controlled the game particularly in the second half. Freo kicked a few late but Hawks were 5 goals up in the 4th quarter.

[@TotalDramaOwenandNoah]

It was really only the 4th quarter that hawks had full control of fremantle were all over them in that third quarter

[@CarNNNN]

A team that leads wire to wire has nothing to worry about. The " best team" on the day was always going to be Hawthorn and it was a typical coaching job from Ross Lyon no killer instinct just a plan to get the ball and do nothing with it. same number of shots landed 22 each just Hawthorn had 11 to Freos 8. ' Freo didn't play a strong 1st Qtr and paid the price.

[@crashoverride7336]

​@@TotalDramaOwenandNoah Brian Lake had that covered. Norm Smith, baby!

[@domclegg1225]

you should have mentioned that, as strong as the Hawks looked with their win streak and 19 wins in 2013, they STILL lost to the Cats twice (who also won 18 games themselves). based on this geelong were extremely stromg favourites making the comeback win in the prelim all the more improbable and legendary

[@eamongriffiths8533]

EPIC video

[@VictorYong36]

Do one with Carlton 2022. How the Blues blew a regular season starting 8-2 then lose 10 of their next games to be eliminated from the finals

[@isthatrubble]

this is pretty great! have you ever done a vid on the collywobbles, or however it's spelt? if not you should consider it, I always thought of this and that as similar and quite fun as an outsider

[@yeahthelozgaming]

I genuinely believed we lost the 2012 grand final because the curse hadn’t been broken, the curse needed to be broken before we touched any silverware, thank god for Shaun Burgoyne in that 2013 prelim

[@jacksonsandford9697]

great video as always

[@davidkooyman2359]

Brian Lakes inclusion was astronomical !!!

[@comealongcomealong4480]

@davidkooyman2359 (1y later) Watching this 'Kennett Curse' video Nov 2024. I've got a better understanding now of how motivated Brian Lake was when he was drafted. He knew the window for personal success would be short - so gave the role everything he had. Seeing the pics with his young children out at Waverley also showed what increased his motivation to get the best from an older body.

[@Melbournelost66]

I think nearly destroying a club is greatly exaggerated albeit very frustrating for Hawthorn supporters. Nevertheless, all remedied in the 2013 preliminary final.Then 3 flags in a row 🏆 🏆 🏆 Jeff Kennett was a highly successful president and set up the 3 in a row.

[@whatlez]

I think it's worth to mention that the cats won the 2009 and 2011 flags so losing to them was more than respectable

[@jaydog3157]

This is amazing!

[@jonahthomas8958]

Do a Melbourne one please 🙏 these are so good

[@michaelbiddington1876]

As someone who went to every one of the kennett curse games - it wasnt funny. However, I will remember the the 2013 prelim until I die.

[@vlillachy1933]

Could you do a pies video about them going from 17th in 2021 to 1 point from a grand final in 2022??

[@darrenmiles-morland8038]

2021 was one off season for Collingwood. It's hardly worth it.

[@PaddyOC19]

and now geelong are probably the greatest team of the 21st century. They have the best record out of all the teams since 2000, won 4 premierships, while completing a full rebuild and still staying competitive through out the 2010's. and then the icing on the cake in 2022.

[@darrenmiles-morland8038]

Back to back in 2023 would be the crowning moment on a golden era for our football club. If a repeat of the second half of last season could occur, then maybe this is still possible.

[@PaddyOC19]

@@darrenmiles-morland8038 yep, and by the attitude of our player after wins and losses, they believe they can win it from any spot in the eight, although you would hope they still have that drive to win every game. I think Port Adelaide will be the test next weekend. If we win that our season is right back on track.

[@josh4270]

A back to back would do it but until then Hawthorn, Brisbane and maybe Richmond are in front.

[@klokar21]

The best part about the curse is that Paul Chapman started it with his speech, Geelong traded Chapman out to Essendon and Chapman until he retired never lost to Hawthorne again.

[@judepurza-page4009]

You should do a vid about the eagles! 2016/17, looking old, didn't really want it, 2017 elim final... No one expected the eagles to even play finals in 2018 let alone win the flag,

[@adamparker9765]

And Geelong has started the Kennett curse all over again . Its at least three years since Hawks have beaten the Cats. May it continue for another five years.

[@Damang22]

Nice content thanks man!

[@whatlez]

Kelli dominating the commentary all the way back in 2009 🤣

[@LiamP589]

Could you do a vid about Brisbane lions 3 peat?

[@macdac9861]

There was no curse, he said they can’t beat us in big games not home and away. We always beat Geelong when it counts

[@pavementpounder7502]

Advice to parents: tell your kids they can't do something and they'll do it.

[@regan1x]

Great video

[@WhyForWhatNow]

12:06 you cant imagine my disappointment, i thought there was a fat drop coming I say this as a Freo supporter being reminded of a repressed year 😂

[@desiredrapfilms]

Awesome content

[@joeychestnut2437]

No Chappy or Enright in the 2013 Prelim cost the Cats. They play Cats win.

[@welcomethebeef]

As much I love the videos Jagger, this was a tough watch as Freo supporter. I always felt that Freo should have won that game and it could have kickstarted a great era for the club. Shame it wasn’t to be. One of the big what if? questions in the AFL. Anyways, here’s to hoping Freo can go all the way in the next few years.💜

[@jaggerskilbeck]

Definitely worth a video down the line

[@xavierwebb1437]

Freo tragic never going to win you fool and never will

[@jakeyboibeats6096]

Quality content 👌👌

[@Allidoiswinwinwinnomatterw-t2u]

You should make an essay about the Melbourne demons rebuild that led to the premiership in 2021

[@ja20nable]

Awesome video

[@crashoverride7336]

Rioli took a mark late in the 3rd quarter of the Prelim 2013. Deep in the 50 and sublime. The umpires did not pay it! Killed the Hawks momentem late in the term. The AFL and the world were against HFC, that curse was real! I don't know who broke it? But Burgoyne played one of the greatest 30mins of football you'll ever see, and the mighty Hawks won three flags in a row! This should be a documentary! Also, I was late to this game, arrived half way through the 1st quarter. Walking to the G was magical that night! I was a little bit high, there was energy in the air, no one was around, I could hear the noise from the ground, awesome!! The Hawks fans would not leave the stadium after the final siren!! Great day!!

[@seven7264]

part 3 when

[@mattjenno98]

Do one on the pies if they win this year?

[@danielkennedyrey1759]

great video !!!!

[@sickbrawler91]

This is fucking awesome!!! Thanks mate!!!

[@SOmoeononononon]

Great Vid

[@jackwitcombe765]

They played in some of the greatest prelims ever, and Kennett has said some silly shit 😂.

[@alexfrancis8635]

These videos are so fucking good

[@daveynguyen390]

You should do a video on what if the Crows didn't sign Kurt Tippett to that dodgy contract in 2009

[@quaweds]

Me waiting for the Pies' insane run last year to with the flag... oh wait no it will be actually about how GWS started so badly got a new coach and missed out on making the grand final, by literally one kick.

[@Taj-2452]

WHO CARES ABOUT THE PIES AHAHAH

[@greybirdo]

Bloody Jeff.

[@ryemtrains]

Bloody Jeff

[@gtfigc259]

Honestly I hate Jeff Kennet bros saying Cats are bad meanwhile 12 games later were beating them on the spot

[@Jonah_beast6000]

Imagine if Varcoe didn't miss that shot 😳

[@MasterQ18]

sigh kinda wished we kept going but hey we weren't going to beat the hawks forever at least we got a flag after 11 years

[@itwasagoal]

You had to remind me that we blew it big time in the 2013 GF? 😭

[@BenNBA3028]

Poor hawthorn what a curse